April 19th, 2014

Saturday Seven Up

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You’re either in front of Guido, or behind…


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    M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

    I’m definitely in front.

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    Herman Von Rumpy Pumpy says:

    Over every life a little fool must reign.

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    José Manuel Bunda de um Urso says:

    Estou com estúpido. –> http://bit.ly/P97kYk

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    non taxable pikey says:


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    non taxable pikey says:

    Danger Mouse: Come on, Penfold, where’s your backbone?
    Penfold: I put it into the wash with my undies, Chief.

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    Ellie-Mae (9) says:

    It was a bit earlier than last week though, must have been an early night.

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    Iron Lady vs Jelly Man

    Margaret Thatcher was dubbed “Iron Lady” in 1976 by a Soviet journalist, Captain Yuri Gavrilov, in the Red Star. It was smugly intended by him as an insult but, in the unintended way that luck can work, she wore it as a compliment and thus it has gone into history, forever associated with her.

    Alas, David Cameron is no male counterpart. Under his Heathite approach, politics has been returned to consensus mode. Being Better than Brown is damningly faint praise. He resembles a “Jelly Man” who wobbles any direction – or all of them at the same time.

    Instead of a philosophical approach to how decisions are to made, flaky sloganeering like cost of living crisis (Lab); squeezed middle (Lab in truly fatuous mode, I mean look at the size of some of their MPs…); one nation (all parties have used this meaningless phrase); change to win (Con – that worked well, didn’t it?); vote blue go green (Jelly Man). They all mean absolutely nothing. Mere platitudes. We can curse Blair for initiating this approach but the aftermath has been dire. This is the only way that any of them can even think or speak now. They are all automatons. Misprogrammed robots run amok.

    Nigel Farage is the only person who remotely threatens this state of play now. In the long term he may not even be the answer, nor may he attract sufficient people of weight to carry it through into government. We don’t know that today, either way! But to try and take him down now is to commit ourselves to decades more of this insufferable lunacy of over-governance and officialdom creep.

    So with the greatest of respect to the Times, its proprietor and any others who are in or near their influence, by all means question anyone over legitimate concerns, having properly investigated first. That is your job. But don’t mount a political spoiling operation. Because the public have long memories and the good ones will not forgive anyone who attempts to keep them shackled into the electoral prison in which they find themselves in for far too long.

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    Easter the Bunny says:

    The EU is the new Soviet Union.

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    Roman says:

    Those former Soviet states queuing up to join the EU are like the divorced looking for love on the rebound.

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    The BBC says:

    Dave Rocks. He’s our man.

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    Jo Public says:

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    We don't live in the EU, but we might live in Europe says:

    The Times UKIP spoiler really turned back and bit them on the ar5e, I don’t think the Palace of Westminster bubble realised how totally the public are pi55ed off with these troughing politicians and hangers on, I hope the public next month show how really disgusted they are with the Napoleons running the unwanted/un-needed EU.

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    Casual Observer 2 says:

    Dave sucks. He’s finished.

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    Bob Downey Jr says:

    It’s difficult to imagine a more stark contrast than that between Thatcher and Cameron. All those Conservative party members who voted for Cameron should hang their heads in shame. If they still have any guts at all they should sack Cameron now, otherwise the Conservative party will shortly be consigned to the dustbin of history.

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    the rest of us says:

    we feel affronted

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    easter crackers says:

    Q what do you call a zoo with one dog?

    A a shih-tzu

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    Socialism is theft says:

    And The Times is now claiming that Guido Fawkes is ‘too aggressive’. What hypocritical twaddle from the rag that concocted a malicious non-story against Farage.

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    Grant Shapps says:

    It’s been claimed the captain in that South Korea ferry disaster was among the first to abandon ship.

    Strange, he doesn’t look Italian.

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    confucius says:

    man not dressed without tea cosy

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    Ah! Dave says:

    Guido, Please make this ” Holy Saturday Seven-Up “.

    Don’t forget we do Christianity, FFS

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    dai exasperated says:

    con/lib/lab have delivered for two generations the policies that the electorate wanted

    we are broke uncompetitive and dissatisfied

    the prison to which you refer is of our own construction

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    kim jong thingee says:

    i blame his barber

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    Once Upon-a-Time says:

    Maybe jellyfish was trying to have jellyfish sex with jellyman.

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    Donovan says:

    Hey, Cameron, no superhero can exist on your brand of Yellow Jello, sunshine.

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    Kim Jong ill says:

    I shot my barber – I quite liked him really.

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    Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

    Cameron is a spineless, gutless posh boy who has not and will not make any difficult decisions. As for him wining he has no chance for the following reasons – even if the economy continues to improve

    1. No boundary changes
    2. Corruption within the Postal voting system not resolved
    3. UKIP trending at ~ 15% in the polls; they cost the Tories 20 seats in 2010 with 3% of the vote.
    4. Pilgrims still in position actively campaigning against the Government of the day using taxpayers money
    5. Union education fund is still in place
    6. Cameron’s appalling judgement in appointing Andy Coulson
    7. No TU reform allowing Crow and his mob hold us to ransom ( 5 more Tube strikes planned and the teachers planning more strikes )
    8. Tory constituency parties are disintegrating in protest at Cameron’s liberal policies
    9. The Tories will lose 7/8 seats along the route of HS2 to single issue candidates
    10. The Tories will lose one seat in Portsmouth due to shipbuilding being concentrated in Scotland
    11. No control of mass immigration
    12. Public spending still out of control and the national debt rising on a daily basis( the deficit reduction is only one third of that planned)
    13. Human Rights Act still in place
    14. No referendum on Europe
    15. State control of the press introduced
    16. Cameron wanted to take us to war in Syria
    17. Gay Marriage
    18. The BBC is left wing and will act as Labour’s main election campaigner in 2015
    19. QE is destroying any savings people may have
    20. Cameron’s continued, unsubstantiated, support for Climate Change and general green issues.
    21. No promised Bonfire of the Quangos or reduction in Red Tape for businesses
    22. Cameron’s pathetic support for Yeo and Miller. More evidence of his lack of judgement.

    Please add as appropriate

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    Aggression ? - I'll give the metropolitan arseholes AGGRESSION ! says:

    ‘Times is now claiming that Guido Fawkes is ‘too aggressive’.


    How’s this ??

    KEEL HAUL CAMERON, B£IAR, CLOGG and an Effigy of HEATH every week!

    Pour encourager les autres

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    Hugh Trevor-Roper says:

    I am convinced that the Times’ version of the “UKIP diaries” is absolutely genuine.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    It’s being claimed that Dave, Ed and Nick are steering their ships and are in control. Strange, they all seem to be flying the jolly roger.

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    Slipitup your Barrista-o says:

    Mama Mia !!! – do I-a look-a like-a someone who-a runaway-a?

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    Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

    The Gaystapo at it again, if a heterosexual couple had done this KFC would have called the police


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    Annabelle (Age 7) says:

    Granny — Haven’t you got any proper Izal? The Times is making my bum sore.

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    Feekl Feelings says:

    I think you mean Rogering Each Other

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    non taxable pikey says:

    Is Roger a brazilian name?

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    Joe Public II says:

    Hanging, castrating, drawing and quartering is much more effective.

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    Hermann Wilhelm Göring says:

    Cameron’s Yellow Jello will only make the English fart
    – isn’t that right, Joseph ?

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    Revd. Phoney (£rd Fuckin Way) B£iar, sanctimonious Git and £iar, emoting and wiv stupid grin says:

    My Expenses??

    Well Shredded – I’m not stupid ! Devious, – like my boy ‘Dave’ – but not stupid.

    Oh – BTW – the God thing worked for me!!

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    Bert says:

    I once had the pleasure of doing a little jig on Heath’s grave in Salisbury Cathedral.

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    Aggression ? - I'll give the metropolitan arseholes AGGRESSION says:

    Agreed – but is it repeatable on a weekly basis?

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    Paul Joseph Goebbels says:

    Quite right, Hermann.
    There was no need for guns to make us powerful – all it took was the likes of Cameron and his favourite propaganda outlet to be bought and paid for.

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    Socialism is theft says:

    Nice story in the DM about Labour’s new strategist Axelrod and how he was given a bung of £8 million to campaign for higher energy prices in Illinois in 2006. Wasn’t it Ed Gizzacrisis who was screaming about our energy bills?

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    Joseph Goebbels says:

    Quite right, Hermann.
    There was no need for guns to make us powerful – all it took was the likes of Cameron and his favourite propaganda outlet to be bought and paid for.

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    Passing Clouds says:

    Thank you. Excellent!


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    Joe Public II says:

    No. But circa 630 from the HoC will keep us going for nearly two years at one per day. Then there’s the HoL to get through before we start on the top levels of the public sector thieves.

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    Gordon Brown says:

    You ain’t seen me. Right?

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    Your last sentence is quite right and Rousseau referred to this entrapment with the words: Man is born free and everywhere he is in chains, in 1762, well before the French Revolution.

    Your first sentence is quite wrong though. How can you possibly categorise Margaret Thatcher with all the other leaders in the UK for the last half a century? There is no mainstream view on any side of the political divide which agrees with that suggestion.

    She was able to persuade those from the moderate left to join her. Ever since, in an attempt to recapture this success, the political parties have gone for the middle ground as if it were some sort of Holy Grail – with predictably disastrous results.

    It is her conviction which won it for her. No one doubted that at the time, friend or foe. The only conviction that exists now is when some politico gets nabbed for some petty offence but never for their more serious crimes, which they commit with impunity.

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    The tit chillaxing in the Canaries when he ought to be in Elba says:

    Axelrod should get off of my patch. Doesn’t he think I’m already doing a good enough job of spinning for Ed David Miliband ?


    Bugger, nearly beat my best score.

    Time to start over.

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    Maria Miller says:

    Bollocks! I’m out of bacon. Now that’s REAL.

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    Gordon's nurse says:

    Gordon ! Where are you ?

    Give that potion back to Mr Skinner right now. You’re through creating stealth taxes.

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    jgm2 says:

    7. No TU reform allowing Crow and his mob hold us to ransom ( 5 more Tube strikes planned and the teachers planning more strikes )

    That works in Cameron’s favour.

    Strikes remind people of the reality of voting Labour.

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    worker drone 22 says:

    I’ve always thought of the EU as the new Roman Empire.

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    As further evidence of this flaky approach to politics, we now have the prime minister suddenly wrapping himself up in religion. Has he been to Damascus recently, I wonder?

    Although I am a non-theist myself, it is not that per se which I object to. It is rather the fact that it is suddenly switched on, as a theme, as if it had occurred to him as he got out of the other side of bed. Or maybe he levitated out of the bed?

    The honest way would have been to declare it from the start and then I would have no complaint and certainly would not be writing this now. But the way in which it has been done is blatantly such sheer opportunism that it serves to illustrate how we operate in a vacuum-sealed absence of policy, whichever traditional party you look at.

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    Casual Observer 2 says:

    Try some Tottenham Pudding — should be to your taste as an experienced trougher

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    Doghouse Fawkes says:

    Well, Guido made a fuck up this week by piling onto the Times fuck up; so after backpawing some soil over his brainturd, he’s probably keen to snuggle up in his kennel and make like nothing happened from Monday morning.

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    The State Broadcaster and Correct Thinking says:

    The BBC treats anyone who objects to Homosexual Marriage, which should not be confused with civil parterniships as the BBC does, as a very bad bigoted and ignorant person who should be re-educated to accept their world view.

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    Doggie Stains says:

    Well, he made a fack up this week by piling onto the T’imes fack up; so after backpawing some soil over his braintard, he’s probably keen to snuggle up in his kennel and make like nothing happened from Monday morning.

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    ned ludd says:

    Well Said.

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    D0ggy $t@!ns says:

    Modbot’s working hard this morning…

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    UKIP 4 ALL says:

    Cameron stung by jellyfish, millions pray for a speedy recovery for the jellyfish while offering thanks for a job well done.

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    D0ggh0use $t@!n3s says:

    W e l l, G u i d o m a d e a f u c k u p t h i s w e e k b y p i l i n g o n t o t h e T i m e s f u c k u p ; s o a f t e r b a c k p a w i n g s o m e s o i l o v e r h i s b r a i n t u r d , h e ’ s p r o b a b l y k e e n t o s n u g g l e u p i n h i s k e n n e l a n d m a k e l i k e n o t h i n g h a p p e n e d f r o m M o n d a y m o r n i n g .

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    'Chillaxed' Dave says:

    I found Gideon’s Bible left in our hotel room. Naturally, I shall return it to him at the first Cabinet meeting.

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    modbot party says:

    That was the Holy Roman Empire, this is the new new Roman Empire, oh wait, wasn’t that Napoleon? or the Kaiser?

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    Stella Greasy says:

    I’m such a jammie dodger.

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    The Growler says:

    That article about Fraser Nelson in the Guardian is a good read, Cams beware he might be a fighter in a tight corner but so are rats and cats, if Dave is out in the open and he picks a fight he might not be so fortunate

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    That is much more the US.

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    Prime Minister David Cameron says:

    LISTEN: Do we need gender neutral loos for transgender people? http://bbc.in/1kLmCPk

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    Euan Blair says:

    If you thought my dad was a lying, slimy, arrogant, evil c-unt, what till you get a load of me.

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    Thanks! But the old problem occurred. I was interrupted when making a last minute change to the last sentence and then sent it off without checking. Always a mistake. Too many “ins”! Can only blame myself though…

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    Tosser Dave says:

    Me? — I’m a chocolate bourbon

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    modbot party says:

    Not aggressive enough… come on then if you think you’re lard enough!

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    Slotgob says:

    There’s my boy!

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    Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

    What would really work in Cameron’s favour would be the introduction of legislation stating that strikes cannot take place unless over 50% of union members ( not just those who voted) vote in favour of a strike.

    That would demonstrate just how little support TUs have

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    jgm2 says:

    He should make that 50% threshold a requirement of forming a government too.

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    Joe Public II says:

    Was it in your 2010 Tory Manifesto? No? O.K. Go ahead immediately then, you gay lover.

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    George Osborne says:

    Spankee go home.

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    Her conviction, but more importantly that her conviction and ideas were in tune with the majority of the people.

    Her economic policies are what are generally remembered and praised / vilified disproportionately.

    The core of what was good about her time was that she was actively dismantling and repairing parts of a state enterprise that had got completely out of control in the late 60s and through the 70s.

    History is now rhyming, so unless a new reformer is put in next year we should expect a repeat of the Callaghan debacle before the ‘right’ person gets in. If the public have learned anything they will skip that and go straight for F’arage.

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    Cyril Smith says:

    Nick doesn’t remember me.

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    'Poleaxed' Dave says:

    On second thoughts, I need to read the bollux now that I am a happy clappy gay lover.

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    Village Idiot says:

    …….Found a nice little book called “Twenty Three Tales” by Tolstoy,and read the short story, “The Story of Ivan The Fool”(and his two brothers,Simon the soldier and Taras the stout;and of his dumb sister ,Martha and of the old Devil and three little imps!..

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    Now then - Now then says:

    I may have been a bad un’ but at least I wasn’t a grossly obese LibDummer

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    Cameron is not a Conservative, nor is he a Christian says:

    Presumably that’s what you meant when you claimed to have found God.
    Pity you couldn’t be bothered to read and understand the contents of the Bible.

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    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    SC Never turn an apology in to an excuse.

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    Man Bites Dog says:

    How did the emergency responders distinguish Cameron from the Jellyfish ?

    Are they sure they got the right one ?

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    A Reader says:

    Are not the disabled bogs gender neutral ?

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    The Fourth Reich says:


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    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    According to the labour biased BBC, Tristram Hunt is to link the Birmingham schools indoctrination to the government’s education policy.
    Has Hunt gone completely mad?
    How desperate have labour become?

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    Anonymous says:

    Like attracts like so hey say.

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    Village Idiot says:

    …Having had sunday school,chuch and chapel,then a Cof E school,i am familiar with how Christians are supposed to behave and think,and therefore ,although not a practitioner of any faith,i can tell Christian actions and am aware of certain rules and morals toward our fellow humankind!
    The conservative party is neither conservative or Christian,as judged by its actions and the cruel infliction of suffering on those least able,or unfairly tarnished with the benefit scrounger mentality!…Genuine cases do exist,there but for the grace of God go I!

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    Tuscan weekends says:

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    Labour election slogan in 2015 says:

    The Tories will cook your children.

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    Accept your refinement without reservation.

    The reason why history is rhyming is that it seems to take two decades of general misery before people are pushed to the extent where they say: No more! and then they vote for a radical.

    The problem is that a level of comfort then creeps in for a large number growing up behind them, which then breeds complacency. People do not want to believe that things are going to slide downhill again and so stick their heads in the sand. The days of austerity are never considered by those who were not directly affected. So the cycle starts all over again.

    That happened in Labour’s years (the “end of boom and bust”) in a similar way to the inter-war period of the 20s/30s, for those not so affected by the Wall Street Crash.

    This neglect nearly proved fatal for us back then. The period since 2007 has, in so many ways, been live a living death for so many with aspirations. The same for those with savings.

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    Ed Balls says:

    Will you vote for me if Y’vette goes down on you ?

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    Bed St@1nes says:

    Unusual, often seemed to have the morning off.

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    I didn’t apologise! And I accepted my own blame. What else do you want, FFS? ;-)

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    Time to spend a penny says:

    Can’t we divert some of that foreign aid (i.e money stolen from us) to getting bogs fixed instead of leaving them disabled ?

    Also, the existence of “accessible toilets” implies that somewhere there are “inaccessible toilets”. How stupid is that ? Flush these idiots out of Westminster.

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    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    Does this explain why Dave always turns bright red when Miniband asks him a question?

    It is all the fault of a jellyfish.

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    Thank you please says:

    “Hello, I calling from the Microsoft Corporation. We believe there is virus on your computer. Please to be entering the following code on your computer to fix the virus. Thank you please”.

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    Enthusiast says:

    Boris will not bore us. The Tory man of the future. Move over, Dave. Make way for the new.

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    Labour is the nasty party. says:

    Even the EU is better than out and out socialism.

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    The recent Labour years most are now figuring out was an era of deception.

    The WMD / !raq was the tip: The bigger deception was Blair’s New Labour projection that they were continuing Thatcher’s work, and not repeating mistakes of the past.

    Very nearly everything which Labour put out to the public during the 1997-2010 period was deceptive lie and distortion, and most emphatically not in the interests of the UK even short term.

    New Labour repeated the statist mistakes but in a different way, this time funding the state expansion through the international debt markets and being much more intrusive and authoritarian with it. This is proving more damaging long term than the lighter touch / loony fiscal policies of the 70s.

    Looking at New Labour this way, one should reassess whether the UK has been a victim of a resurgent Comintern pact.

    Those who lent the money to fund the state expansion here being the remote protagonists of revolution in the UK, hiding under the skirt of globalization. (Those who blame Thatcher’s reforms of the 80s for this are very deceptive)

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    a green person who likes talking utter crap says:

    What has Gove been up to?

    The UK is a Christian country which forces the majority of us to send our kids to state schools where they learn all about the baby Jesus and to sing “all things bright and beautiful” alongside “onward Christian Soldiers marching as to war”.

    Within little more than three years we are told our kids in the country’s second largest city are being educated to the Islamic standard.

    Something is very wrong here.

    I know its Easter but really the situation is so disturbing Parliament should be recalled immediately with Mps being denied additional expense claims because this whole incident is linked to culpable neglect whilst in public office.

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    Pundit says:

    Was it a KY-Jelly Fish ?

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    Anonymous says:

    Boris is a ‘rabid europhile’, no thanks.

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    Nero Caesar says:

    Why do you British have to be so uptight about sex?

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    We don't live in the EU, but we might live in Europe says:

    20mins is my record, I got fed up trying to fix the none existent computer in front of me, besides the battery on my tone generator was getting a bit low.

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    P l e b says:

    The problem is it’s not insane – evil and cynical would better describe it.

    This government has treated their time in power like a smash and grab raid, selling off as much of this country’s infrastructure and services as they can get away with.

    They don’t care about the consequences and they know it’ll be a disaster for Britain – but it gives politicians friends in high places and sets them up for a lucrative post-politics career.

    It’s corruption and we need proper laws against it.

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    We don't live in the EU, but we might live in Europe says:

    I don’t see anything wrong in those kids being educated to Islamic standards, when they grow up a bit they can go and be cannon fodder for all these tribal wars which the grown up’s pretend are Islamic wars.

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    Iain Duncan Smith says:

    David Cameron would a slap to your face make you feel better? Perhaps, a kick up your ass?

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    chicago hope.roll roll up. roll up. there is a fly in town. says:

    now wizz off.

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    Alis Julison, an Arsehole of Oxfud, says:

    Look! I thort the play wuz ‘bart hetro sex ‘n that – not proper arse bandit sex like wot it should be.

    No probs if it had ‘of’ been Musso – beheading – that sort of stuff.

    We had that Cameron here once – he got a PPE.

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    Ed Balls says:

    Miliband, go get my coffee, I’ve got a meeting with David Axelrod. We’ll let you know our plans in a few days.

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    The British media are cunts says:

    Yes but who makes the laws? The elite do. They make laws, they ignore the laws, they break the laws. The judges ignore the law and as for fat plod, he’s too busy arresting Twitter users or Christians do catch real criminals.

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    an agglomoration of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is) says:

    SC, you don’t know nearly enough to be ‘non’ anything, you ignorant toad.

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    UberFeldMarshmallow Herr von RumpyPimpy says:

    Das is sehr gut!!

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    Owen Jones says:


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    Give them free first class flights says:

    I think we should all encourage every muslim male in the country to go to Syria and fight alongside their brothers. The reports of the latest death of a teenage muslim from the UK who was killed fighting in Syria is wonderful news. One less terrorist, one less muslim sponging off the state. British Airways should do its patriotic duty and give free first class tickets to every muslim in the UK who wants to go and fight for allah in Syria.

    In the meantime, let’s just enjoy that we have one less fanatical muslim residing in our country. May there be many more like him.

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    Cinna says:

    Yes but on the other hand has been too busy with gay marriage legislation to bother with all that other nonsense.

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    Still, it could be worse says:

    can we call this the Saturday seven loaves and fishes Up ?

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    Changing airline / geography, that is roughly how the Mujahide’en in A’fghanistan was created back in the 70s.

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    Mr Tennyson from Toxteth on Sea says:

    The old order changeth, yielding place to new. And God fulfils himself in many ways…..etc…

    … like letting Liverpool win the league this year instead of the moneybags other three. All things bright and byewtifull….

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    Nemesis. says:

    What really pissed me off about this teenage terrorist was that he received more publicity and compassion than any British serviceman killed in conflict. I also wish all the muslim boys who are so unhappy with the West would fuck off and fight in Syria. But while they scrounge benefits to which none have contributed etc I can’t see it happening.

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    David Axelrod says:

    I takes a wind-up merchant like me to sell you Ed the Automaton.

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    Give them free first class flights says:

    If it was up to me, I’d just nuke all the madrassas and training camps in Afghanistan and P*kistan. A school in P*kistan has just named its library after Bin Laden. Nuke it. Problem solved. It would also help prevent future atrocities if we flew a couple of helicopter gunships over the Midlands. There’s no danger of killing any Brits, there aren’t any left. There are areas in Bradford, Birmingham, Tower Hamlets and Glasgow that could be obliterated and in one stroke prevent future terror attacks. But the left say we have to respect their religion and their right to mutilate girls, marry first cousins, kill daughters for looking at an english boy, and blow up kuffars. The irony is that Owen Jones and Laurie Penny wouldn’t last 5 seconds in one of these muslim infested shitholes. Since the twat Jones loves to defend islam, he should go to one of their mosques and tell them he’s gay, then he’ll see for himself how peaceful they are.

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    Blairs catholicism wont save him from the lake of ir says:

    I think the trigger for Cameron to ‘get religion’ was the realsation that his bumsex policy has alienated many traditional conservatives. The transparent tit isn’t hard to read at all

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    dai exasperated says:

    mrs t

    broke industry via high interest & exchange rates

    broke banking system

    had minimal impact on government deficit – north sea revenue maximised by waste of gas

    contributed to property price inflation

    stuffed public sector with unaffordable social housing policy

    but – yes –

    she gave the mob two wars to enjoy – abroad at the price of huge political debt to uncle sam

    at home – we’ll not know the economic opportunity cost because of wholesale closure

    oh – and her government agreed to open up our markets completely to chinese competition with no quo pro quid


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    We don't live in the EU, but we might live in Europe says:

    Do you mean one American owner winning over another American owner.

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    The EU is a superstate project gone badly wrong says:

    The EU is out and out socialism without the democracy bit.

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    Winston Churchill says:

    Fuck the EU.

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    dai exasperated says:

    all the mob wants is property price inflation

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    Gay Dave says:

    Bumsex Marriage. My triumph. My legacy.

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    Putin the Great says:

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    Nemesis. says:

    Well, you need some sort of comfort to live in such a miserable self-pitying place like Scouseland so if Liverpool winning the league makes tiny minds happy then good luck to you.

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    Anonymous says:

    I’m into Cybersex. My computer goes down on me all the time.

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    Nigel Farage says:

    My hero. I would love to suck his bollocks.

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    sarahrezai says:

    Can you please help me. My home has been ruined by a cowboy builder Can you please read my story and help me to expose this POS. http://transformconstruction.wordpress.com/

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    Imagine my frustration at realising as early as 1997/8 that it was not looking good. By 2000, I felt we had gone past the point of no return. Yet, like a chicken with its head cut off, the whole conspiracy ran for almost another seven years. I even began to doubt my own experience at one point! Most other people were still singing the praises of these conmen. It ought not to have been possible but here it was still happening… Until it wasn’t and I was finally vindicated in my views, not that this was any consolation save as to inform me I had not gone mad after all.

    As you put it, this was all deception. To those who say it was global, I retort that it was the ramping up of our borrowing at a time of apparent plenty which particularly singled out the UK. It certainly made Wilson/Callaghan/Healy look like paragons of fiscal rectitude by comparison. Well almost.

    The Comitern thought is a provocative one and I am grappling with it in my mind even now. Of course that cannot be the case, one side of my brain is telling me. They had lost the struggle and were thoroughly discredited. The other side of my brain is saying: Well yes, all these people had to go somewhere and they started to behave as if they were reformed. Plenty of articles about these “conversions” were written at the time. Perhaps we swallowed it all too readily and grasped defeat right from the very jaws of victory?

    I don’t know how much you are aware of the two Italies, though I suspect you will know something. The north is industrialised and industrious, law abiding, serious, efficient. Large parts (Südtirol/ Alto Adige) are German speaking, a legacy of the Hapsburg Empire who don’t really want to be seen as Italian at all (They even won’t have the EU style number plates here!). But much of the rest of the north from Piamonte right down even into Tuscany does not conform with the English conceived stereotype. The south is populated by those who don’t generally run business or create added value. They end up as lawyers, politicians, civil servants – the privileged indolent. The head of Trieste Police is from the south as an example. The two Italies are in a permanent state of undeclared war. I see this as a microcosm of the Comitern situation you talk about. Because it can happen on this scale, there is no reason why it should not happen on a greater one, European wide or further.

    As inoculation against this, one thing that everyone should do when someone tells them they are from these “privileged” groups of people in England is to say to them: “Oh” You don’t do a real job then!”

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    If I annoy you, I must be of service to greater humanity.

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    Realist says:


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    Dave the Jellyfish says:

    David Cameron stung by jellyfish: PM hurt after ignoring advice of locals while on holiday.


    Time for a judge led inquiry into the risks to jellyfish from spineless middle aged creatures.

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    non taxable pikey says:

    I wish he would go to Damascus right now. Would solve a host of problems.

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    Wait until they start fighting it out in Bradford and Birmingham .

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    'Dave' says:

    Look! (copyright T. B£iar)


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    Bert says:

    Make that +10,001.

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    Bert says:

    The word is “agglomeration”.

    Now who’s an ignorant toad?

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    Nemesis. says:

    At least has some unlike Cameron.

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    Desperate 'Dave' (in desperation) says:

    I repeat I DID NOT NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT JELLYFISH!! No STD risk at all – it just went down on me!

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    non taxable pikey says:

    I thought he was just rabid.

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    Farage was right about Putin, he’s playing rings rounds the EU mongs , and showing them up for what they are , feckless over promoted idiots, well out of their depth !

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    Lord Mandlebum of Boys says:

    Me? I’m a post-democratic penguin.

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    Ed Militwerp says:

    Mithter Thpe’aker, thith pwoveth there ith a cotht of jellyfith thting lothion cwithith! Too far, too fatht! Er, er…

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    Mai Non! says:

    No – just load the fuckers into a fleet of duff airliners and shoot the fuckers down into the sea

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    S.A.S. says:


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    Bert says:

    But Labour will eat them.

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    An infected prostate says:

    My pus dribbling out

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    Bert says:

    Is that another word for “obese”?

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    Bert says:

    You should have hired an Indian.

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    Mark Oaten says:

    A finger of fudge is just enough.

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    choose your enermies well says:

    This is all a bit much for a Saturday morning. I have the weekend to read it, and Monday to make sense of it.

    But I must add, Maggie had great enemies.

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    Jo Public says:

    indeed., there appears to be a fair bit of lard over at order order hq

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    Cathy Ashton says:

    Is this my cue?

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    P l e b says:

    Cameron rushed out his new found faith in a hurry last week to try and drown out the publicity of 600 church leaders telling him his government is a disgrace. Lynton Crosby hired someone to write this declaration of faith.
    As one of Cameron’s ex-colleagues said:
    “I wouldn’t trust him with my daughter’s pocket money.”

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    A Reply says:

    This is all a bit much for a Saturday morning. I have the weekend to read it, and Monday to make sense of it. But I must add, Mrs T had great enemies.

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    Yes, the floor is yours.

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    Anyone who can seriously write the following words: “Labour’s Cathy Ashton continues to sparkle on the international stage…, is in serious need of having their bumps felt.

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    The US was hit also, the only material difference being that they have retained USD as reserve currency status. They are still trying to rebalance post credit crunch, but until they get an administration which deals with their own government bloat that floundering will continue. That will likely happen once they have reduced further their dependence on foreign energy supplies.

    The UK does need to deal with its debt problem.

    Other than the bloated state of government and mis-allocation of human capital into non-productive and over compensated occupations (to your point about unreal jobs, which include also the data entry clerks who label themselves ‘traders’ these days) the screwing up of energy policy has in the medium to long term undermined completely the ability of the UK economy to regain either competitive edge or real productive capacity.

    When the re-inflating asset bubble in housing bursts a lot of people are going to be in for a very nasty wake up call.

    What folk still do not understand is that credit bubbles create debt, not wealth. When a credit bubble bursts, the debt remains.

    Unlike the US, people in the UK cannot escape mortgage debt by returning the title deeds and keys to the lender. They will end up paying with their lives.

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    Ian Duncan Smith says:

    Arbeit macht frei

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    Random Bloke says:

    You make a convincing case Schrodingers Cat. While I like Farage, I don’t warm to much of the rest of his party – especially not the ragey cyberkippers. I don’t discount voting UKIP at some point but I still believe the Tories are the best way forward. Their resources are immense. They just need new management. We have strong talent from 2010 coming through. DC is a weather vane/jelly fish but still better than Heath and the wets who supported Heath. And who came after Heath?

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    I disagree, they ought to be dragged kicking and screaming into a padded cell!!

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    Michael Gove says:

    Schools in Birmingham are illegally segregating pupils, discriminating against non-Muslim students and restricting the GCSE syllabus to “comply with conservative Islamic teaching”. Department for Education inspectors said that girls in a school at the centre of the so-called “Trojan Horse” plot were forced to sit at the back of the class, some Christian pupils were left to “teach themselves” and an extremist preacher was invited to speak to children.

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    Agree with your sentiment.

    In practice though, if the locations were nuked in order to eradicate as you suggest, public opinion would more than likely side with those targeted despite the fact that these individuals wish to do us harm.

    As a matter of policy for dealing with the problem, less dramatic and obvious means are needed to eradicate the problem.

    One way of doing this would be to encourage the target countries to implement generous welfare policies and encourage open door immigration policies from other countries. State based positive discrimination in favour of the immigrants would help undermine the economic viability of the terrorists and displace them.

    If done right, the terrorists may actually accept and celebrate the cultural diversity they are then enjoying despite the fact that it is destroying their way of life and beliefs. Those that object should be at first publicly shamed, and eventually criminalized.

    Over a period of 20 years the original problem demographic would be rendered harmless either through fragmentation or outright eradication.

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    Shouty* says:

    So, the (conservative) estimate is that right now, there are a million people in this country unable to feed themselves and their families.

    This is what they’ve delivered to us, these ‘leaders’. This is what they have wrought.

    Food bank Britain.

    Wonga Britain.

    Bankers bonuses Britain.

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    Shakes spear in rage says:

    I compare thy sparkle to that of a crystalized dog turd on a frosty Morn

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    Hysterical, outside Number 10 says:

    Did Dave do it ? Did Dave R.ape a fucking Jellyfish ?

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    Ben Stiller says:

    Cameron went full-retard.
    You NEVER go full-retard.

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    Elaine "Spanky" McFarlane says:

    But I’d like to get to know you, if I could…

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    nigels parachute says:

    Ive just picked up a copy of a thompsons holiday brochure. All the couples pictured are opposite genders

    How long before the gay lobby start complaining that such brochures are homophobic?

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    Fido Gawkes says:

    I wonder how many trolls will turn up still claiming that these charities advertise free food despite it being clear that no-one gets food without being in dire need. They look at bank balance, income and expenses and help those people who clearly cannot support themselves. There is a popular myth among Daily Mail / Express /Sun/ Star readers that poverty is non-existent. This is clear false and hundreds of thousands of families are struggling to eat and pay bills

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    I am Dave says:

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    Three and a half hours ?

    He does go on doesn’t he.

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    'Re-born' Dave says:

    You know, with Jesus being a confirmed bachelor and having 12 great male chums, I’m 100% sure He supports my gay initiatives.

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    Thank you for that courtesy. I do understand what you are saying about some of the fringe but can report similar from the Tories*. I have always voted Tory before (except for one Independent who was not only better but who has since taken the Tory whip again.) I have never missed a vote. Ever.

    My objection is to the groupthink which permeates the whole place. Example: I had a reply from my MP telling me how marvellous the BBC is. I had written to complain about its bias. It took four months to respond. It was probably composed by some tyke at Central Office. I could not listen to the Farage debate as the BBC blocked it from going abroad. Yet I can vote for 15 years after having emigrated. It does not take much to see that there is a problem here. One of many. Too many. That one insignificant straw of the letter was the one that broke the camel’s back.

    * On oafishness in the Conservative party

    For a short time, I was a member of the Conservative Party. It was after they lost in 2001 and the contrarian in me said, “They need some people joining them to counteract all those they have lost”. So I was at one of the leadership contest debates between Ken Clarke and IDS (whom I had actually met before in the HoC chamber when Parliament was not in session.) But some of the people at that meeting of some 2000 people (and I was one of the youngest there!) filled me with horror. I tabled a question for them and got called. The chairman even said when he called me, “That young man over there!” I immediately adapted my question to this introduction by saying, “Thank you, Mr Chairman, it is not often that I get called young nowadays and that is in fact what my question is about. How are we ever going to win elections again if the average age of our supporters is represented here?” I got a decent round applause for that one but only a complacent response from Ken and a rather better one from IDS. But in my first few words, some oafish heckler to my side had shouted out “Get on with it!” I did not last as a member for long after that…

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    Old Growler says:

    Could you say that again?

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    Old Growler says:

    Only on the arm though, could have been much worst

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    The UK does need to deal with its debt problem

    Amen to that. But I think it’s gone too far, frankly. The only solution is half a century of inflation. What an awful prospect.

    The bloated state is so ingrained that curing it will take even longer at the current rate of progression (I smiled as I typed that last word – it barely fits the bill).

    The growth now is too reliant upon property values and not upon adding value. Ironically, I stand to benefit personally from it but would never let that affect my vote.

    If you are saying paying with the quality (or absence of such) of life then I understand. I had not heard of any plans to liquidate non-payers. ;-)

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    Thought for Easter Saturday says:

    The 24 Tory Tax Rises

    1. VAT increased – to 20 per cent from 2011
    2. Income Tax age-related allowances frozen and eligibility restricted (“Granny Tax”) from 2013-14
    3. Income Tax higher rate threshold cut to £42,475 in 2011-12
    4. Higher Income Child Benefit Charge introduced 2013
    5. National Insurance Contributions rates, limits and thresholds increased in line with CPI rather than RPI from 2012-13
    6. Income Tax higher rate threshold frozen at £42,475 in 2012-13
    7. Insurance premium tax increased – from 2011
    8. Capital Gains Tax increased – to 28 per cent for higher rate taxpayers from June 2010
    9. New Beer Duty introduced on high strength beers from 2011
    10. Duty on hand-rolling tobacco increased by an additional 10 per cent from 2011-12
    11. ISA subscription limit uprated in line with CPI rather than RPI from 2012-13
    12. National Insurance Contributions changes to contracting-out rebates from 2012-13
    13. Capital Gains Tax annual exempt amount frozen, 2012-13
    14. Stamp Duty Land Tax increase to 7 per cent on properties over £2 million from 2012-13
    15. VAT increases on a range of items, including caravans, sports drinks, and listed buildings from 2012
    16. Duty on tobacco increased by RPI + 5 per cent in 2012
    17. Income Tax higher rate threshold cut to £41,450 in 2013-14
    18. Capital Gains Tax annual exempt amount increased in line with CPI rather than RPI from 2013-14
    19. Income Tax cap on reliefs introduced from 2013-14
    20. Pension tax relief restricted from 2014-15 21.
    21. Income Tax higher rate threshold Increase capped at 1 per cent in 2014-15 and 2015-16
    22. Capital Gains Tax annual exempt amount increase capped at 1 per cent, 2014-15 and 2015-16
    23. Inheritance Tax threshold frozen in 2015-16
    24. National Insurance Contributions ending of contracting-out rebates from 2016-17

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    Toxic Tories for Landowning Spongers, Parasites, Criminals, Expenses Fraudsters, Traitors, Peedos, & says:

    The 24 Tory Tax Rises

    1. VAT increased – to 20 per cent from 2011
    2. Income Tax age-related allowances frozen and eligibility restricted (“Granny Tax”) from 2013-14
    3. Income Tax higher rate threshold cut to £42,475 in 2011-12
    4. Higher Income Child Benefit Charge introduced 2013
    5. National Insurance Contributions rates, limits and thresholds increased in line with CPI rather than RPI from 2012-13
    6. Income Tax higher rate threshold frozen at £42,475 in 2012-13
    7. Insurance premium tax increased – from 2011
    8. Capital Gains Tax increased – to 28 per cent for higher rate taxpayers from June 2010
    9. New Beer Duty introduced on high strength beers from 2011
    10. Duty on hand-rolling tobacco increased by an additional 10 per cent from 2011-12
    11. ISA subscription limit uprated in line with CPI rather than RPI from 2012-13
    12. National Insurance Contributions changes to contracting-out rebates from 2012-13
    13. Capital Gains Tax annual exempt amount frozen, 2012-13
    14. Stamp Duty Land Tax increase to 7 per cent on properties over £2 million from 2012-13
    15. VAT increases on a range of items, including caravans, sports drinks, and listed buildings from 2012
    16. Duty on tobacco increased by RPI + 5 per cent in 2012
    17. Income Tax higher rate threshold cut to £41,450 in 2013-14
    18. Capital Gains Tax annual exempt amount increased in line with CPI rather than RPI from 2013-14
    19. Income Tax cap on reliefs introduced from 2013-14
    20. Pension tax relief restricted from 2014-15 21.
    21. Income Tax higher rate threshold Increase capped at 1 per cent in 2014-15 and 2015-16
    22. Capital Gains Tax annual exempt amount increase capped at 1 per cent, 2014-15 and 2015-16
    23. Inheritance Tax threshold frozen in 2015-16
    24. National Insurance Contributions ending of contracting-out rebates from 2016-17

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    ‘Dave’ says:

    I did NOT have sex with that jellyfish !!!!

    It merely wanted to be acquainted with another invertebrate.

    End of !!

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    UKIP 4 ALL says:

    Now imagine if Axelrod had been hired by the Tories or UKIP, the BBC would have launched into a in depth no holds barred no expense spared analysis of his career and dealings with all sorts of crooks and perverts and degenerates.

    BBC news would be rolling 24/7 and newsnight would have to be twice as long to cope with the number of labour MPs invited to put in their tuppence worth, but this is labour we are talking about and so the dodgy career of Axelrod will always consist of one job, that of helping to elect Barry Soetero.

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    UKIP 4 ALL says:

    And of course labour would do exactly the same thing because they are just as poisonous and toxic and in hock to their rich friends.

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    Too Far says:

    & pay for Sky TV, fags booze…. maybe a few snorts
    There maybe a few quid for the latest 50″ TV.

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    Miss Emma Towçiss says:

    Boris has the whiff of enrichment wafting about him.

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    The liquidation of non payers will come when they are denied access to food and shelter, by not having the money to pay for that, and are denied access to the job market due to their indebtedness.

    S’uicide is also a form of liquidation in this frame.

    Then of course there is the option of war in the future: Government writing off all debt obligations could be a very coercive way to encourage people to sign up for example.

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    Couldn't make it up says:

    Interesting piece here:

    Russia supported by trained career diplomats, while so many U.S. ambassadors are presidential cronies, having gained their posts as reward for political support.

    U.S. ambassador to Germany is a business and entertainment lawyer who doesn’t even speak German, another is a hotel magnate, another a tv soap series producer, etc


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    Too Far says:

    Ho! to add, as a contractor that services “joe public” Iv’e seen plenty of cases of so called “poor people” They all seem to smoke themselves to death, plenty of booze in the fridge, still unable to clean their shithole & and still unable to look after the wellfare of the kids.
    They are expert at conning the system and the left wing twats.

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    Old Growler says:

    My, that would have been very painful for Dave

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    Food banks are especially evil ,they undermine the socialist ideal that all help must come through the taxpayer CLOSE THEM DOWN NOW !!!

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    Dave Lied says:

    If gayers were gagging for marriage as Dave says, how come not one of his homo MPs or shirt lifter staff has rushed out and tied the knot?

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    Old Growler says:

    Well Dave thought it worked for B’Liar and Dubya, spouting it out when they felt like it. Say you have a religion you must act out the tenets of your religion in daily life, being religious is not the same thing, Christ in the Temple illustrates that admirably, when he threw the money changes out and calling the priests thieves and vipers.

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    Gay Pride... my arse. says:

    Besides that most people described as Homophobic are not actually afeared of the homo, what’s wrong with not approving of their vociferous ways and attempts to make society all about them?

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    Vlad Putin says:

    I like Nigel as human. Bit of buffoon okay but good value for pint.

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    Old Growler says:

    V I, I agree with your sentiment there, though there are many on here who do not, my have probably never been unemployed, lucky them, Dave C is back peddling on his threats over sanctions to Russian big money, must protect London at all costs, but eventually London will be caught in the vice of unemployment.

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    Old Growler says:

    Dave is a Rock?

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    Old Growler says:

    They closed down years ago love, your mummy most have got them from her mummy many years ago.

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    RT Interviewer says:

    Me first.

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    Garfield says:

    I believe Bryant scurried off to distance climes to get married.

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    Garfield says:

    After reading bits about Axelrod on line, the consensus appears to be that he is a clusterphuck of the highest order.

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    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    One does get the impression that any politically related post now requires a CV with that prominent bullet;
    * I am a clusterphuck of the the highest order.
    * Have always gone that extra mile to line my own pocket.

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    Such sense spoken says:

    I think that I’m in love with SC ♥

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    Daniel Kawczynski says:

    It is grossly unfair that those of us who are bisexual people are required to choose between two halves of their entire character in order to marry. No other category of person is made to select and discard half of their hearts, half of their minds, half of everything that they are at the altar steps, like unwanted cards in a game. Bigamy must – I see nothing in the Bible which condemns polygamy for anyone. Did not Jacob take not only two wives but their servants as well for the glory of God? Would King David not have been innocent in the enjoyment of his many wives had he not killed his neighbour for one of them? Would not Solomon have been innocent with a thousand wives, if only he had refrained from listening to them. And for them, it was allowed because they could not choose between just one gender. But to have to choose one gender only in consequence of choosing one person only, that is unimaginable. Bigamy must be allowed for those who are otherwise forced to make a false choice of putting the head of the coin in their pocket and leaving the tail on the table.

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    Bloo Loo says:

    Any newly constructed loos (that I have seen) operate on a first come/first use basis; unless you forgot to bring 20p, in which case you had better hold on until you get home.

    The only inaccessible toilets are those closed because of too much cottaging by the gayers.

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    Our Religious Co-Respondent says:

    Steady that man!

    There are meanings, some hidden, to ‘gagging’.

    ‘Dave’ – being a man of many talents (none obvious) – is possibly aware of matters beyond our understanding – especially as he now has followed B£iar on the Religious Road.

    And, to forewarn you, it may be that ‘Dave’ will soon be visited one night ‘In a dream’ by an apparition that shall speak unto him thus:

    ‘Dave’ – my Son, my only Son, – whom may I trust but Thou to bring unto me the errant and naughty nation of Blighty who willfully disobey my commands to yield unto the Kraut.

    Go therefore and abhore the Common People to Vote in droves for thy policies of entrapment into the web of Anglear, – lest ye be cast into eternal damnation.

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    Ed Rubberband says:

    Axelrod is a loud-mouthed clusterfuck? Definitely one of us.

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    Mandy the mortgage-fiddler says:

    Floaters of the world unite !

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    Flarrs, MacShane, Mandlescum, Maria, Moron, ReichMarshal Smit, Squirrel Nutkin, Udin says:

    Excellent! – signed by just a few troughers – not space to get them all in

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    The tit chillaxing in the Canaries when he ought to be in Elba says:

    Have you seen my jelly, Roger ?

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    cured lefty says:

    Probably the same arsehole who described robert peston as “charismatic”jhw the fuckers are unbelievable!

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    You are forecasting into areas where I, at least, don’t have any knowledge of similar prior states in the history of mankind. As a pioneer from my past career myself, I am acutely alive to the unpredictability of going where no one has trodden before. Any projection can be thrown out by the slightest deviation from your forecast input and rapidly unravel the whole exercise.

    So whereas I can’t say your outlook is right, I cannot say it is wrong either! The possibilities are vast in range. They certainly cannot exclude war, on a local or worldwide level.

    The s’uicide point was considered but would probably be relatively small though much greater than we see today. I see a possibility of a Balkanisation of the country along cultural lines together with no-go areas patrolled by local militia. If the government tries to control this with the official military, as with the Soviet block, that may work for a while but I suggest will be self-defeating in the long term. It won’t stop leaders of our current low quality from trying though, indeed many may consider that they have no other option.

    This is where my faith in the individual comes about. Those of us who are of a libertarian mind are simply articulating what many other folk know almost by instinct but could not fit into a strategic narrative. Try and repress that spirit and the natural tendency for an individual is to circumvent it. It happens all the time. I have done that myself in the last week some two dozen times. You get told by some no-job: “You can’t do that!” It is a matter of pride to achieve the objective by some other means in hours rather than days. Life is only so long. I use the fact that people think in patterns to break down their approach and then fly underneath their radar, metaphorically. I am sure I am not the only one to do this.

    So, despite the doom, I am still optimistic.

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    SC, an agglomoronation of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is) says:

    First of all, fuck off Bert you pedantic old fool. And as for your pathetic riposte SC, and I quote, “If I annoy you, I must be of service to greater humanity”, all I can is, pfffff! I repeat, you don’t know nearly enough to be ‘non’ anything, you ignorant toad.

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    It is hard to odds that, put that way… :roll:

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    he who lives by the sword etc says:

    There really isn’t room to list the number of tax rises that occurred under Labour 1997 – 2010.

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    sausages says:

    Er, where’s the bedroom tax then petal?

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    speech and language therapist says:

    Peston can’t even say ‘charismatic’ ffs.

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    Leaders who have some modesty, not letting their egos out of control, whilst being hugely successful, despite all odds, are rare indeed.

    Tolstoy wove a great tale for sure but where do you find characters like that in real life through the ages?

    The one which springs to mind for me is Alfred the Great. He was one of the most naturally intelligent of our leaders for a number of reasons. I will mention just one of them: He inverted the Golden Rule. It made it more possible to live with than the Christian ideal which seems to many like madness.

    Can you name another since him? if not, we may have a long wait on our hands…

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    Repetition, however many times, does not make a false fact true.

    You are not the first to make such a mistake which is exactly why we are in this mess.

    Thank you for existing to point out the futility of badly considered thought. I hope they make a statue for you somewhere.

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    Anonymous says:

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    UKIP 4 ALL says:

    Only the BBC believes in the bedroom tax, in the real world there is no such thing.

    Spongers who live in social housing with more bedrooms than they need are simply being greedy.

    Greedy lazy spongers support labour for some reason, beats me why.

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    Expat Geordie says:

    I’m on a Thomsons/First Choice holiday now and I can confirm that there are no homosexualist couples here.

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    M­a­­q­bo­­ul says:

    Make that 3 sockpuppets in a row.

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    We are saying the same thing in a different way. :-)

    Here is the link for the record:


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    Hello Campers says:

    Labour are the willfull spreaders of disatisfaction

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    Hello Campers says:

    does John McTernan realise that you cannot plot life on a graph?

    Owen Jones is a Rainman, wishing to extropolate and measure those things that cannot be measured

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    name, telephone and address withheld says:

    When the public toilets are spotlessly clean, smelling fresh, the cottaging you refer to and other similar activites I do not know about, do not take place. Is this put down to time of day, appearence or smell. Perhaps the said public toilets should be cleaned after dusk falls? Does it take place at the gayers home?

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    Lee Grasper says:


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    One address only for the electoral roll says:

    Come the General Election will ED Balls and Yvette Copper being voting for each other or both for one or voting for themselves? As they share a house, family etc etc I would have thought they could only be registered at one address!

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    bergen says:

    The gay lobby won’t take on targets who can afford to fight back. They concentrate on ruining the livelihoods of small, religious b&b owners who have an objection to sodomy taking under their roof within their home.

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    Podiceps says:

    The solution is simple. Marry yourself.

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    Rage Against the Machination says:

    @BW 5:23 pm . You are instantly recognisable you cnut! Wake Up and Know Your Enemy

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    SC, an agglomoronation of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is) says:

    You have made the classic mistake of making a value judgement when not in possession of all the facts. I cannot proceed much further in this discussion with an ignorant rookie such as yourself. You may go.

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    Anonymous says:

    Nice rack.

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    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    BBC Met office says: “you don’t need to be a rainman to know which way the wind blows”.

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    Many will think that you don’t have an argument at all if you do not lay out your grounds. There will be no reason for other readers here to know whether you are right or wrong, if you do not do so. Are you a member of a secret society?

    I will admit to any amount of failings, if justified, but assertions require backing up by evidence. At least I set my case out! You provide none but do so in a rather arrogant fashion, if I may be permitted to say so. You also appear to conduct yourself entirely to your own solipsistic satisfaction.

    Yet, so clearly, you are frit! :-D

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    Potty Toynbee says:

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    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    How did she manage to get a herself council house like that?.

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    Jane Itor says:

    And then having to wash the sheets, clean the bathroom . . .

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    Jarsmen Halibut Brhoon says:

    I have such low self-esteem, non-existant feelings of self worth and ability to make a life for myself, I have to resort to the Grouniad of all places – and associate with Toynbeee and other trash in order to earn the crust that I feel I deserve.

    Life was SO much better in Uganda.

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    Hello Campers says:

    I would go for Aston Villa, they serve pies at half time

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    Poo says:

    I am trying to work out a formula for Labour

    it is a function of comparative wealth between one or more people measured in GBP with a multipication factor involving envy

    this is why Owne Jones is contorted by his own mind

  252. 252
    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    Accrington Stanley does a very good; “The Beast”, served with a fork truck.

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    south of the M4 says:

    Chuck us Yermoney already has

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    Poo says:

    labour should concentrate on desire modification rather than fill peoples head with with shit that they can have the same stuff as people who work 4 hours a week without working

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    south of the M4 says:

    ” Spongers who live in social housing with more bedrooms than they need”
    May actually have nowhere to move to. Grant you many are lazy *astards, but this was a logical but ill-thought out policy. It should have been phased or managed differently. Like the poll tax – logical and fair but crassly introduced.
    I am no fan of the feckless sponger, but I want a government competent and strong enough to push through logical reforms. Cameron’s government? No *ucking chance. The biggest dis-service Blair gave the British people was allowing Brown to be PM. The biggest dis-service Cameron will give will be allowing Labour back in government.

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    Nigel Evans says:

    Me so horny.

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    Still, it could be worse says:

    why is she colour coded with the hysterical decor ?

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    sounds like japanese rope trick says:

    pull elbow in, yours. push wrist out.
    does the heart open?
    the elbow is digging into the chest.
    all life is in the bum but the playground is in the mind.

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    Sinnick says:

    Take the £100 a week food allowance MPs have and give it to food banks.
    Stop the subsidies in the bars and restaurants in PARLIAMENT.
    Stop IDS from having £39 breakfasts……


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    Sinnick says:

    And the 69p pints of beer…Can we have a petition to make parliament dry?

    If people are [rightly] not allowed to drink and drive, why are they allowed to drink and make laws?

    All the drinking simply adds to the drunken rowdiness of PMQs.
    The only kind of bars they should have is tea bars[and not subsidised ones, either!]

    And being able to smoke in there – isn’t that the most hypocritical thing imaginable?

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    SC, an agglomoronation of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is) says:

    The fact that you have had the temerity to make a value judgement at all suggests that you have an agenda and want to close the argument down rather than seek the truth of the matter. That is all.

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    Sinnick says:

    And the 69p pints of be er…Can we have a petition to make parliament dry?

    If people are [rightly] not allowed to dr ink and dr ive, why are they allowed to d rink and make laws?

    All the d rinking simply adds to the dru nken rowdiness of PMQs.
    The only kind of bars they should have is tea bars [and not subsidised ones, either!]

    And being able to smoke in there – isn’t that the most hypocritical thing imaginable?

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    I wouldn’t mis-read my notion as pessimistic, maybe just realistic with a tinge of nihilism.

    When the debt bubble finally collapses properly there will be some major changes in society which will not work out for the best for everyone.

    It would be of interest to get some breakdowns of debt burden by ethnic group and socio-economic group: Mortgage and Personal.

    Where optimism really comes in to play is if enough people realize that the debt burden they are then carrying is odious in nature, they will then revolt against it and those who seek to enforce its payment.

    That would be where the next libertarian step forward emerges – particularly if the revolt is headed off by a straightforward write off.

    In getting to that step forward there will be some bad times, but people need to be educated that whilst they should honour their individual moral commitments to themselves and others, they do not and should not honour those which have been placed on them immorally.

    A big debate there will focus on who is the greater offender in the predatory lending dialectic. With the ‘help to buy scheme’ for example, it would appear the moral virtue of the current elite is perhaps below the par of acceptability.

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    Hugo Chavez says:

    Sean Penn went full-retard.
    Sean Penn went home empty-handed.

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    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    You have to realise that these superior beings live on another planet (called Westminster) from the rest of us, d*inking, smoking and fornication are all allowed, it is the little people that they look down upon (even Bercow :-) ).

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    Bert says:

    Ooooh, get her!

    PS @SC — wot we have here is a prize cnut.

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    AIDS, Shit and Tears says:

    I think I would burn the sheets afterwards.

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    AIDS, Shit and Tear says:

    Why did thb

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    Jelly Bean old Boy says:

    Why did the jelly fish attack one of its own?

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    SC, an agglomoronation of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is) says:

    Fuck off Bert you fucking old queen.

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    SC, an agglomoronation of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is) says:

    …..make that a thick old queen to be entirely accurate.

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    Sod 'em says:

    This terror needs sorting. These people,should go their own gay friendly sodomities, I would not pay to hear reaming processes anywhere. Sorry Dave, is that Ok with you?

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    Putin's Easter message to Dhimmi Dave says:

    I’m gonna rip your head off.

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    Lord and Lady Establishment-Stooge of Brussels says:

    You don’t get to live in Belgravia by looking after the masses.

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    Sod 'em says:

    But you cannot watch the batty boys there anymore can you, fag hag.

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    I now suspect that someone is taking the piss.

    If it is my nephew, then my message is simple. Do you really want me to come along and have my evil way with your delightful missus yet again? I had to persuade her to stay with you last time, poor misguided girl.

    If it is anyone else, then I am truly sorry for you. Inadequacy must be awful to come to terms with. I cannot help you.

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    Sod 'em says:

    Homo desires apart what has Dave like the Romans done for any of us eh eh? Even the batty boys don’t want to marry, I had the misfortune to listen to gaydio earlier while driving with family and having a right giraffe we were.

    Innuendo filled adverts aimed at perverts requiring outside activities, well it is warming up a little bit now.

    Any chance of anything for the normals, you know the 96%?

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    Lord and Lady Establishment-Stooge of Brussels says:

    The whole country should be raging, not just cyberkippers.
    The fact that you’re scapegoating UKIP while pretending that the Conservatives will be ok with a different Establishment lackey in charge is laughable.
    Your party has been hijacked by inexperienced EU obsessive liberal socialists just as the Labour and LibDem Parties have.
    Time to move on.

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    Still, it could be worse says:

    the only smoking I’d like to see the bastards allowed is if they are on fire. :-)

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    Now you are getting into the realms of relativistic moral theory or moral relativism.

    The difficulty here becomes bandwagon jumping which we see on such a widespread scale nowadays, especially from those excreta in the HoC.

    I see nihilism as doom, certainly in its existential form. I have a solipsist bugging me elsewhere on this page who is probably deranged. If it is indeed my nephew, then that condition is no longer contingent. :-)

    There will certainly be some bad times but several decades of lost existence becomes problematic, if you are not in extreme youth. I have been proven correct on outcomes. My problem has been in determining the timing. I think everyone has this problems. The lucky ones (there have to be some) get looked upon as clever later. Some indeed are clever but luck is an ingredient in every life ever lived.

    No! I will still keep my optimism because I still believe in the basic decency of most people. That they cannot always see behind the pretences is understandable. What is a weakness can also be a strength if one shifts the observation point.

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    Lord and Lady Establishment-Stooge of Brussels says:

    The bedroom tax is state sponsored granny bashing.

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    Iain Duncan Smith says:

    I am now going to read the Daily Mail.

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    She’s blick!!!

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    Am definitely not trying to shift your position of optimism: Those kind of internal beliefs and outlooks are not relevant to the broader point and in any case it is absurd to try and argue them. Individuals arrive at such positions in a very complex manner and the only debate valid there is one of self reflection.

    The separate point though is to do with debt forgiveness, or how can a society which has made seriously bad decisions or had those decisions make for it, reconcile and move forward.

    Debt is one simple concern.

    If society demanded that access to credit be made cheap and more widely available, and then took advantage of that, does society have any argument for dissolving the agreements upon which it entered apparently willingly, or can it legitimately hold to account those who acquiesced to its demands (or implied demands) and use that as reason to break what are then agreements which are judged unjust ?

    This kind of goes to one of BW’s themes about informed consent.

    It is not quite clear cut for the individual if they have given their consent on fraudulent terms without being aware that they have either given their consent or indeed that a fraud has been committed against them.

    Whilst those who facilitated the fraud remain in a position of power and of relative strength, then as people wake up to the reality that those in power have enabled, the people will be at risk – hence my rather dark outlook.

    This is also a powerful line of reasoning for why the dynastic ambitions of some in public life should be curtailed.

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    A B&B owner does not have to be religious to object to vile unnatural practices in his own home, just a normal heathy revulsion to such goings on, especially when the room stinks of human excrement afterwards, and he is forced to throw away the bed itself and all the contaminated bedding before the room can be once again let to decent people .

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    Bert says:

    Obviously a closet homo, with all kinds of other psychological aberrations. Added to which, he can’t spell!

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    SC, an agglomoronation of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is) says:

    FFS did you pork Veronica, you fucking bastard?

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    Nothing makes me jollier than a good rogering!

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    Scammers in the IRA did says:

    Doubtless his family will receive compensation.

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    Button monk says:

    Socialist thinking is on the red end of the autistic spectrum

    The main features of ASD typically start to develop in childhood, although the impact of these may not be apparent until there is a significant change in the person’s life, such as a change of school.

    Some adults with ASD may have difficulty finding a job because of the social demands and changes in routine that working involves.

    The condition is characterised by difficulties with Social Interaction, Social Communication and Flexibility of Thinking or Imagination. In addition, there may be sensory, motor and organisational difficulties.

    A pattern of behaviours and abilities was identified, predominantly amongst boys, including a lack of empathy, impaired imagination, difficulty in making friends, intense absorption in a special interest and often problems with motor co-ordination.

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    Gheedough's boyfriend says:

    I don’t think it’s a big problem. Better for Forks to shoot first and ask questions later.
    Prefer that than his shyness in covering the “Blair porks Deng” story.

  292. 292
    indian rop trick says:

    that mop trick was about attitude not altitude.
    altitude changes attitude.

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    I had all of them. You c’unt!

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    School Teacher says:

    i’m going on strike

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    sacred man is scared. says:

    scared man is sacred?
    now go for a safari.
    shared intent leads to ii.
    a wellinigtentcum.
    napolean at one end:fierce.

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    School Teacher says:

    I won’t be happy until my neighbours are unhappy

    Earning more money than the fat self employed bloke next door has not bought me the happiness I thought it would

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    Stung Dave says:

    Ouch, ouch, ouch!

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    This is a very interesting string of comments. i (BW) contrary to the ‘assumption’ made by Rage AtM at 6:36 that BW made a comment at 5:23 pm – did not make that comment.

    The Rage Atm – stated “BW … instantly recognisable …” and how is that Mr Rage AtM?

    Even SC (of old and now) knows BW’s style. Someone trying to ‘stir things up’ i say.

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    Nigel the Jellyfish says:


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    Headmaster says:

    I always thought earning £120K would give me respect but something has gone wrong

    I am still unhappy

    Maybe I will be happy if we can take all the money off private sector people

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    Nick's old boss says:

    Or me.

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    Have some considerable problems with informed consent, especially as it mushrooms out of its medical ‘nursery bed’.

    I would suggest it has no place in finance or banking at all. I can fully support the concept of guarding against an extortionate credit bargain, for example, but that then exists within a tightly defined statutory framework.

    It seems that one is moving further away from objectivity here and then no one knows anything for certain.

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    one and one is three says:

    I suppose you will be one up on your neighbour soon, when you can take days off for a strikw and leave 20>30 kids in the lurch during school term and if mummy and daddy decide to take the kids on hols in school term they get done for removing the kids from school in term, you’re a rally nasty piece of lefty crap.

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    Owan Joones says:

    i would prefer to make everyone poor than everyone rich, it is far easier

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    We don't live in the EU, but we might live in Europe says:

    Wouldn’t go near the private sector people they may get you to do some work, can’t have uncivil servants having to work for pay, how demeaning.

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    School Teacher says:

    we need legislation to make travel companies give free holidays to teachers during the school holidays

  307. 307


    So are you behind some of this mischief, or not? I don’t have a clue.

    Your last paragraph is trying to support a level of belief it was surely not designed to bear.

    Some might levy the charge that here is something almost oxymoronic about the term BW’s style… Of course, I could not possibly comment. ;-)

    Then we hear a charge from you that someone is trying to stir things up? You don’t say! :-)

    But I suppose it could be your sockpuppet. Or not. Or both.

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    Private Sector Employee says:

    Teachers really are reaching the “scum” category

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    Back in Black says:

    She was a fast machine she kept her motor clean
    She was the best damn woman that I ever seen
    She had the sightless eyes telling me no lies
    Knocking me out with those American thighs
    Taking more than her share
    Had me fighting for air
    She told me to come but I was already there
    Cause the walls start shaking
    The earth was quaking
    My mind was aching
    And we were making it
    … ….. .. … ….. ….
    … ….. .. … ….. ….

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    Anonymous says:

    Having observed the excessive verbiage you discharge here, I am completely in sympathy with the heckler who urged you to “Get on with it!”.

    Are you really a school girl?

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    We don't live in the EU, but we might live in Europe says:

    Maybe the teachers during the school holidays go and do some real work in a local business at local business employee rates, can’t give them binmens jobs as the job would be to technical, maybe they could go and do some work cleaning the local sewers, they would then get an underground slant on how this work

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    Father of Autistic Kid says:

    Have to disagree; autistic kids are born autistic. Socialists choose to be socialists. do not mix cause and effect.

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    what a gay dave says:

    Dont worry if you can never buy a home

    Be happy that you can now marry someone with a willy if you also have a willy

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    here it is as promised well fucking part one at least ….

    For sheer pig iron please have this fucking quote in respect of Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948)

    Compare and contrast …
    Page 29 Private Eye (issue 1364) Insolvency ‘EY jelly’
    “With their professional status and powerful connections, the big accountancy firms are routinely trusted as advisers and administrators to businesses at the first whiff of financial trouble. But, as a recent case in the high court shows, often they act not to keep businesses up and running or to get the best deal for creditors, but to bring companies down and protect the banks that hire them.

    Last month it was the turn of EY, formerly Ernst & Young, to be exposed when a judge ruled in favour of Plymouth business couple Michael and Diane Hockin. Their property company London and Westcountry Estates had been placed in administration in 2012 after incurring debts to Royal Bank of Scotland. Much of the deficit, however, had been run up through what the Hockins allege were interest rate swaps mis-sold to them as a condition of taking loans. These are the now notorious agreements that left thousands of businesses, for which the contracts weren’t suitable in the first place, with high interest rates when they should have been benefitting from record low borrowing costs. RBS, it so happens, has set aside £1.25bn to pay compensation.

    Having lost their business because of these products, however, the Hockins found themselves unable to claim compensation because their company, which had legally signed the agreements, was now in the hands of the administrators. This shouldn’t have been much of a problem as EY could have assigned a right to the couple to claim compensation, which they duly asked for on the basis that they would carry the costs themselves and hand a share of any resulting payout to EY for distribution among creditors. The main beneficiary would have been Isobel Assetco Ltd, a company 75 percent-owned by RBS to which the bank debts had been transferred (from, incidentally, the Global Restructuring Group arm of RBS now being investigated over allegations that it wrecked many clients).

    Since EY was supposedly acting in creditors’ interests, it should have been a no brainer to let the Hockins get on with it, yet the administrators refused and in the ensuing court case put up all manner of resistance, arguing even that the high court didn’t have jurisdiction.

    Judge Le poidevin was perplexed about EY’s motive, explaining that “any success if the [Hockins] pursued the claims would be a benefit to the creditors; conversely, if the claims failed, the creditors would have suffered no prejudice… I can see no sense in refusing an assignment.”

    In fact another of his observations – that “the banks [RBS and its Natwest affiliate] would undoubtedly prefer the claims to be abandoned” – explained all, since pleasing the banks is what keeps the administration gravy train rolling. EY acquired the administration of London and Westcountry Estates in the first place through the well-trodden path of initially coming in as financial adviser appointed by the bank, through its Isobel subsidiary, and then recommending administration. From this it has earned £2m so far – against the £600,000 it would have cost the previous management to run the decent business they created! Smelly or what?” [End quote]

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    SC have a look at the foot of the page about ow ref – i did say i would post an article i referred to yesterday – its up – but for how long is anyones guess. Oh … part one is up – for starters.

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    Fishy says:

    GF the other day, brought us a story about multi-millionaire socialist Russell Brand’s keenness on Marxist redistributive dogma – although he seems reluctant to redistributive his £10m net worth.


    Not only does he believe what’s his is his, he obviously wants to free-load off the rest of us. He’s owned up to dodging his rail fares, so the rest of us have to pay for his crimes through higher rail fares.



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    Lights, Camera, Democracy! says:

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    Podiceps says:

    Do try to keep up.

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    Joss Taskin says:

    Is it spelt Assolerod ?

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    Had already seen it on soundsmart.

    I don’t call these sorts of contracts legitimate banking. This is exactly the same as the reason I left the industry. The equivalent in evolution would be the crockoduck. Cannot exist as not from the same genetic family grouping.

    To my way of thinking it should not be an informed consent matter, as discussed with CO elsewhere here. That is to attack it from the wrong end IMO. It should simply be unenforceable. Were that to be the case, many of these contracts would never have been done.

    I have zero sympathy with the banks here.

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    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:


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    Autistic old man says:

    And I’m voting UKIP.

  324. 324
    Benny Hill says:

    Just understand that the people voting against our interests are more united than us. Vote UKIP.

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    But see my remark to BW re crocoduck below.

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    Realist says:

    Again, +10000

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    Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

    Donkey not pony, surely.

  328. 328

    In your warped world, yes. Probably.

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    Plain Speakin' says:

    Shove it !

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    SC – try wiki for ‘contract repudiation’ [there’s (was?) a nice abc example] – it revealed quite a bit to i some years ago.

    And of course there’s the MOS front page of Cameron’s fucking up yet again – a Bankru.pt ex appointee by the Labour party and the Carelessmoron appoints the same fucker … And the moron appointed Coulson …

    Oh dear – Rupe has really fucked up now – and i hope he dies a slow and very painful detah.

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    'Dave' says:

    I’ll see what I can do – as soon as I get back.

    Meanwhile, – in big round figures, – try to work out what it’s worth for me to bother – and of course, you must ensure any pay-off is done very discreetly.

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    Wendi's Karate Chop to the Gonads says:

    Laughable comments. Probably 99% of you wouldn’t last ten minutes in a tough inner city school trying to impart Gove’s curriculum to the children of drug dealers, addicts, prostitutes, long term unemployed, single mothers, long term disabled and professional criminals.

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    We don't live in the EU, but we might live in Europe says:

    It really doesn’t matter which part of the LibLabCon pact is in, the country is still run by the EU, the HOC is just like a local village council, run by people who in real life would be jobless or in jail.

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    Annuva Skool teecha says:

    We DO NOT want any legislation that brings us into contact with the real world, – or with any real knowledge about what we’re supposed to teach!



    No wot oy mean?


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    We don't live in the EU, but we might live in Europe says:

    It’s a Liebour person talking about Liebour, if they had called it a one trick donkey, the grazing rights could have been revoked.

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    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    Maybe worth looking to see if there is a revolving door between the banks involved and EY. Recall some of the similar problems that took down Arthur Anderson through it’s collusion with Enron.

    The situation that report is hinting at suggest a different type of fraud to what happened at Anderson, but why EY should act in apparent concert with the banks is worth examining.

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    'Dave' says:


    Hint – you’re no good to anyone unless you’re a perv – or suffering from a socialist approved illness – like ‘depression and exhaustion’

    or very very wealthy – like what we are

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    i tend to try to be ahead of those who lead and mis-lead … so have a heads up for next month …

    Did you know that it’s Europe Day on 9th May?

    Now what little tricks could the worlds political numbskulls have in store for the days and weeks leading up to it?

    i still have a couple of EU flags which i am intent on ‘burning’ – PUBLICLY.

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    Bloomers in rain-soaked Bongo Bongo Land says:


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    Maybe, maybe not. says:

    Depends on what weapons are allowed.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    I’m a sock puppet!

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    One issue is that all the ‘elevated’ judges esp. in the RCJ are more than just prone to leaning towards protecting the ban.ks no matter what.

    Dent on Wild e Sap te / Mr J Richards – would be a good hunting ground esp. when RB o S / Nasty West are concerned and moreso of 2007. i attended at a stage managed ‘act’ – oh what a larf it was to see the big headed counsel – running around like a headless turkey!

    Fucking masons – you’re pathetic.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    No it is spelt – yetanotherfuckingprick.

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    "ice i am" says:

    “ice i am” is an affirmation.
    how many shades do our names come in?

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    Careers Advisor says:

    Surely teachers are free to apply for better-paid jobs with more holidays if there is a need and they are qualified.
    Otherwise they could start their own businesses, take all the money thy earn (after tax) and take as many holidays as they like.

    On the other hand they should be offered jobs with lower pay but scrap all the bullshit paperwork.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    To SC at 12:07 – i suppose you read the article but did you read the other one i referred to in the Graph on blog yesterday (compare and contrast)?

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    Ed Millionaireband says:

    Of course he’d be deputy PM if there were a Lib/Lab coalition.
    Same as he is under Butch. It’s a non-job and this is a non-scoop.

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    Lights, Camera, Democracy! says:

    …and another J e w ish one at that.

  350. 350
    Blowing Whistles says:

    btw the ‘jelly’ / ‘fish’ thing considering moron’s holiday sting has made this all the more entertaining for sheer timing. Thank you that jellyfish – “Respect” dude.

  351. 351
    Blowing Whistles says:

    you said that not i – but noted, nevertheless.

    i have as a side issue been reading a recently published ‘History’ (an abomination of it actully) book today, and it barely mentioned of Lenin’s true religious origin.

    ‘Victors’ Justice’ indeed.

  352. 352
    Blowing Whistles says:

    i do hope that the easter ether comment stealing monsters do not appear overnight.

  353. 353


    Have been familiar with this stuff for longer than I care to state. Suggest you look here which is much more powerful:


    However, it does require primary legislation. Where it has been in force, you never get any trouble.

  354. 354
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Grateful SC – and noted – much fun is to be had from the filthy bastard legions of shysters in due course.

    btw here’s a saying from Mark Twain from 1904 – “In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, and brave and hated ans scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it cost nothing to be a patriot.”

    We have been badly served by those who ‘think’ that they have become political masters. They have forgotten for multiple reasons, that they are in fact the public’s servants.

  355. 355
    Anonymous says:

    Well you’re just going to have to swallow your pride and marry a rich poof. Should have studied a bit harder.

  356. 356
    Wendi's Karate Chop to the Gonads says:

    Well it would probably have to be tanks to deal with the fathers and brothers of Turkish, Kurdish, Somali, Jamaican and other backgrounds who would be coming to sort you out after you had hurt their kids.

    Most teachers perform minor miracles – and for a lot of inner city kids, school is a refuge and the only thing standing between them and complete despair in life.

    I believe politics should be based on reality not fantasy.

  357. 357
    Irate headmistress fed up with all the effing ill-educated useless plebs I have to watch over says:

    Excellent! Then you should be permanently locked out and made to re-apply for your job, AFTER you have passed a proper qualifying exam such the French Baccalaureate.

  358. 358
    Gen-Sec Shelf Stackers Union says:

    Oi!! You can’t offload a your f’ing rubbish on us skilled workers mate.

  359. 359
    Gen-Sec Shelf Stackers Union says:

    Wel WTF don’t you and your idiot union(s) start campaigning for proper disciplinary measures to be re-implented and enforced in schools. If you got rid of all this namby pamby ‘think of the children’ crap from your tiny brains you might notice a gradual improvement in say 25 years. Meanwhile, you have made your beds so you will have to lie on them.

  360. 360
    Prime Minister"Money's no object" Cameron says:

    I almost took a selfie but quickly realized that I don’t have a vagina.

  361. 361
    Dailysex sufferer says:

    Vote PIKU.

  362. 362
    Casual Observer 2 says:

    Don’t worry. You’re an arse. Just what all your bumsex mates desire.

  363. 363
    albacore says:

    With your capacity for fantastication
    You need pay no heed to such realisation
    After all, the plebeian appreciation
    Is that you fill that bill with great application

  364. 364
    Iain Duncan Smith says:

    Tories corrupt trough snouters every last one of them. Stop voting for them…… just stop!

  365. 365
    Detester of oxygen thieves says:

    Lazy sod !

  366. 366
    Another fuckup eh Dave? says:

    Quango chief steps down after being exposed as bankrupt
    Tony Caplin, appointed by David Cameron as head of Public Works Loans Board, resigns after No 10 investigation

  367. 367
    Another fuckup eh Dave? says:

    Quango chief steps down after being exposed as b@nkrupt
    Tony Caplin, appointed by David Cameron as head of Public Works Loans Board, resigns after No 10 investigation

  368. 368
    Liam Byrne says:

    Couldn’t possibly be a pony – there’s no money left.

  369. 369
    Does Neil Hamilton’s bow tie spin or squirt water? says:

    “Ukip demotes Neil Hamilton as party fears over sleaze grow
    ‘Cash for questions’ ex-Tory had angered Farage’s party after accusing its chief donor”

  370. 370
    Grant Shapps says:

    Hear ! Hear !

    Who was chair of the MRC comms Audit Committee until yesterday? Step forward Tony Caplin, declared bankrupt


  371. 371
    Grant Shapps says:

    City entrepreneur Caplin was made bankrupt in May 2012 with debts of more than £3 million. The bankruptcy order was granted by the High Court at the request of HM Revenue and Customs debt collectors.
    Caplin is thought to have owed the taxman £200,000, Barclays Bank £1 million and more than £2 million to other creditors.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2608597/PM-hired-bankrupt-crony-run-60billion-quango-Tycoon-charge-vast-Treasury-budget-Tory-friends-sacked-MoS-probe.html#ixzz2zPQ2ERVY
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  372. 372
    tunafish says:

    It really matters very little exactly why they demoted Hamilton. The fact that he held that position at all is the surprise. It probably just goes to show how little they have got in the way of talent. Let’s face it, if the best they can do in terms of leadership is Farage they really do have problems. A cheap and shifty bunch of chancers making headway by simply playing on the fears of the gullible

  373. 373
    Grant Shapps says:

    Whatever happened to the pm’s promised bonfire of the quangos ? Now we know why it never happened….!

  374. 374
    Iain Duncan Smith says:

    Businessman Tony Caplin put in charge of Public Works Loans Board

    Is Treasury body behind £60bn worth of loans for infrastructure projects

    But Caplin was declared bankrupt in 2012 for not paying his taxes

    Anyone in public body must inform responsible Minister of their bankrupcy

    PM claimed he had no idea the man has been declared bankrupt

  375. 375
    Pissed Off Voter says:

    We can make do with the sleaze of the current crop, proven expenses cheats, duck houses, moats, sexual assaults and paedophilia

  376. 376
    Pissed Off Voter says:

    we can make do with the sleave of the current crop, proven expenses cheats, duck houses, moats, sexual assaults and p@edophilia

  377. 377
    Unwashed dirtbag says:

    Fares go up on account of scumbags like him.

  378. 378
    UKIP says:

    Hate the EU. Love the salary.

  379. 379
    Appointed by Labour says:

    I see the BBC had a report on the story this morning and that presenter bloke (who always shuffles about like he needs a piss) had to ask “…whoever he is”

  380. 380
    'Dave' says:

    The worst thingy about this jellyfish thingy is that it was a COMMON jellyfish – not at all of my social standing -

  381. 381
    ? says:

    Seriously, is there any brain activity in the typical Labour voter?

  382. 382
    Magenta says:

    It’s not good for recruitment to have all these ex Tories hanging around. Potential UKIP voters might realise that restoring the NHS to public ownership and getting rid of the Bedroom Tax are not exactly top of the list of priorities

  383. 383
    Butch says:

    It is not entirely inconceivable that the jellyfish didn’t go to Eton.

  384. 384
    Maria Miller says:

    Cameron does not give anyone a job by merit…its always the slippery mates…no wonder he does not want to give up his PM job…He’s getting more and more like Blair everyday..

  385. 385
    Macho Willybum says:

    A Man o’ War is more my type.

  386. 386
    Yorkyman says:

    Neil Hamilton? Ah yes I remember, I wondered what he was doing. These sort of people seem to get along without working as the general public understand the word, working. They always appear to find someone who will pay them for doing bugger all and bull sh–ting. Parasites all of their kind

  387. 387
    Prime Minister David Cameron says:

    Happy Easter, you bastards.

  388. 388
    Michael Gove says:

    Quentin Tarantino is going to make a film about David Cameron’s appointment of Tony Caplin called ‘Quango Unchained’.

  389. 389
    ukip.i.am.not says:

    Who’s his replacement? A balloon on a stick?

  390. 390
    ? says:

    Cameron is totally clueless. Blair wasn’t clueless.

  391. 391
    Samantha Cameron says:

    Public Works Loan Board… hands up who has ever even heard of this quango that dishes out £60 billion of our cash annually. Not good, Dave.

  392. 392
    give £3/month for ummm...Cheers easy... says:

    Hear hear.

    Votes for any of the liblabcon is a capitulation. ..do that and you get what you deserve!

    Kick em in the nuts (vote UKIP)
    Run away (recover some semblance of self determination)
    Reform. (There is no reforming the status quo)
    Start again (piano wire etc)

  393. 393
    T.B£iar - the People's Messiah says:

    Caplin ? Caplin ? Where have a I heard that name before ?

  394. 394
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Believe me, if Guido Fawkes follow up the detail properly of this Tony Caplin crony story there will be Government resignations.

  395. 395
    Pookie snackumberger says:

    Nah, it’s too busy shilling for Goofy Ed.

  396. 396
    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:

    SPOT ON !!

  397. 397
    Private Sector Employee says:

    Teachers have to decide whether they believe in performance based assessment or not

  398. 398
    Curious says:

    How many MPs are bankrupts?
    Kettle, Pot, Black.

  399. 399
    Tim Farton, President of the Cockroach Party says:

    The original version comes with a free mug.

  400. 400
    What have the Conservatives ever done for us ? says:

    Looking back what will David Cameron see as his greatest achievement, bumsex marriage or the break up of the UK ?

  401. 401
    Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

    Rescuing the Country from Labour’s Great Depression at the end of The Reign of Terror 1997-2010?

  402. 402
    Bye Bye Old Etonian Ties says:

    Pity he had to double the national debt in the ‘rescue’.

  403. 403
    UKIP the Way says:

    Any idea what the one trick is.

  404. 404
    Kulak betrayed by Marxists says:

    Almost….” We are legion. We never forgive. We never forget”

  405. 405
    Village Idiot says:

    …..”Let us pray”.

  406. 406
    Andy Coulson says:

    In Nov 2011, I informed Serious Fraud Office & Financial Services Authority about Tony Caplin admitted involvement w $2bl Venezuelan bond.

  407. 407
    Sally Bercow says:

    Which Cameron judgement is best?
    (a) Andy Coulson
    (b) Maria Miller
    (c) Andrew Lansley
    (d) Tony Caplin
    (e) IDS
    (f) Gove

  408. 408
    UKIP the Way says:

    Just stop the envy and admire his socialist/bbc principles instead.

  409. 409
    jellyfish video says:

    da video. da vin ci.
    cam. me foot, falls flat. picture please.
    broken nose is on.
    now imagine a time,
    now imagine a time yet to cum.
    plusminusfittycents. trancend time?

  410. 410
    Anonymous says:

    Lenny Henry has demanded the BBC improve its recruitment of people from culturally diverse background amid wider calls for a general boycott of the BBC licence fee.
    The comedian issued a “call to arms” as he stepped up his campaign for better representation of black and ethnic minority (BAME) people on TV.

    Well I don’t want Bongos and muzzies on my tv.

  411. 411
    abort says:

    no more kids. no more creation, zipper car is here. is that what the cardsas.
    who is absolute, who is fab. the bridge of green wonders commeth, new zealand/borneo. will we have wifi/y fight access.

  412. 412
    Tosser Dave says:

    Bumsex marriage is my triumph. It wasn’t in the 2010 Tory Manifesto, and the majority of the public didn’t want it.

  413. 413
    abort says:

    balls in the foot, flat.
    balls in the head, play.
    balls in the tummy, count.
    flatpack and move?

  414. 414
    A Reader says:

    Lenny Henry is about as funny as cancer.

    Why doesn’t he just fuck off ?

  415. 415
    A Reader says:

    So that’s what Labour are using to groom kids with these days.

    Obviously couldn’t afford the chocolate for the full C’yril S’mith because they totally fucked the economy when in office last time.

    Labour are total shit.

  416. 416
    Casual Observer 2 says:

    The Beeb already has far higher proportion of effnics, mozzies, and gays than their corresponding numbers in the general population.

    Fuck off Lenny Henry

  417. 417
    abort the b. says:

    axminster is here.
    thick wool. sheep.
    value minister will me next. will it be adam or the ants.
    no probs, here is a redany

  418. 418
    Tony Caplin says:

    Happy Easter Sunday………enjoy your foodbanks. Love, Dave Cameron & Tony Caplin.

  419. 419
    Village Idiot says:

    …….”Who taught the indigenous children that are now the drug addled,feckless,unintelligable,single mothers and fathers of todays drug addled,feckless, unintelligible children?”

  420. 420
    abort the b. says:

    i pod is the truth about truth,
    septic is the state?
    da tate is a tank ful of bees.
    honey goes to the city, city becomes the state. one word state.
    is it a new slate in town

  421. 421
    Benny Fitz-Clements says:

    Not IDS.

  422. 422
    RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

    We would have quadrupled it.

  423. 423
    Pookie snackumberger says:

    Birmingham school governers and teachers, not Gove

  424. 424
    SC, an agglomoronation of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is says:

    Bert, shouldn’t you be out rimming tramps for 50p a pop you thick shitstick?

  425. 425
    SC, an agglomoronation of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is) says:

    And as for SC, you could write all he knows on Bert’s micro cock.

  426. 426

    10:56 am! Early for you.

    What is the matter? Did you shit the bed?

    Bert is a genius in comparison with you and he can spell too. :-)

  427. 427
    Gilbert Penfold says:

    SC, Bert and BW, get a room ffs.

  428. 428

    Take your bromide and STFU.

  429. 429
    J Major says:

    With you around every voter will want the tories out. If you got lossed there is a tory revival and a comfortable re-election come 2015. Get lossed smith.

  430. 430
    Yankee Go Home says:

    They seemed to be more concerned about access to bathrooms and rest-rooms than toilets.

  431. 431
    SC, an agglomoronation of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is) says:

    Hahahahahahahaha, no doubt about it, SC’s incontinence pants have reached saturation point.

  432. 432
    Tellytubby says:

    The only decent thing on the telly at the moment is that Coogan / Brydon thing. (I know Coogan was a luvversonner but let him stick to his day job). Perhaps they should black-up.

    Or, Lenworth, you could try writing a good new show with excellent material, then we might watch it. Something based on that “De bread an de consense milk sandwiches … OOOOH-KAAAAY” character you used to do .. he was great.

    Otherwise, get that ex-mrs of yours to stop accepting telly work every five minutes. She is hideously white.

  433. 433

    There is a case for getting a colostomy bag.

    I could pour its contents all over your head.

  434. 434
    dude. says:

    i will dude you smakaroni.
    when the whell comes off, and the cloud evaporates, what will the naked nakednak. join africa.

  435. 435
    dude. says:

    one needs to relax after all “that” work. so no chillax, get even. fimd a ridge femdom.

  436. 436
    dude. says:

    escape the smell. want a roles, mister
    smell the rosè

  437. 437
    SC, an agglomoronation of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is) says:

    Don’t try and make out you haven’t got one already SC, you fucking lying toad.

  438. 438
    on your bike dave says:

    is on your bike dave chasing a ferrari?
    is he watching F1 on his excexis bike.
    the axis is a souce of drag. positively healthy.

  439. 439
    too much information. says:

    pls communicate telepathically:team “lady” hamilton.

  440. 440
    too much information. says:

    in a world where everyone wants to relax, what next.
    the decision lies with the next generation om value judgement. they will evolve.

  441. 441
    too much information. says:

    what is yourb”drug”
    space is “b”
    brand says spaced out is good. branson agress. not aggressively though. field gerrai is out in order to shield the ferrari. so everyone needs a ferrari..who will be the handler though?

  442. 442
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Don’t tell the trolls that BW as a rule does not post on the sunday Rupe blog – ‘cos it’s just not fair to spoil the fun the idiots think they are having.

  443. 443

    I do have a septic tank here which you are most welcome to bathe in.

  444. 444
    waveraveape says:

    question/isuue/point about “”isinthepublicdomain.:henceoutnumbered. headbackanditwillbeexcruiciating. spirituality is what we seek.everydayoftheweek,
    doodlng s dunn.
    mindays. and utcame mina lisa.
    see egyptologists. hindus ran up the mountains.
    release africa from the shackles of the past. in english say: it’s good to be an african in egypt while dreaming of india at centre court wimbkedun.
    a or an african.
    full stop or question mark. tap to remove the hypnotic egyptologist.

  445. 445
    Sausages says:

    Yeah, I’ll wager it’s a big turn on for your rent boys you filthy old faggot.

  446. 446

    When did you first discover you had neither subtlety nor wit?

  447. 447
    Sausages says:

    SC you’re about as subtle as a length of 2 by 2 you sad old twat.

  448. 448
    21st century centurion says:

    Complete bollocks oh lefty mong.

    Industry fucked itself by producing things that no one wanted to buy because they were of piss-poor quality and expensive too, a result of shit management and shite Unions.

    British motorbikes were shite so we went out and bought Japanese ones.
    British cars were shite so we bought German and Japanese ones.
    British TVs were shiite so we bought Japanese ones.

  449. 449
    Beheadings in Assembly? - come on, you know it makes sense says:

    Gove. At least he’s now realising the error of his ways and doing something to stop the spread of Sharia in our schools.

  450. 450
    Is Lamb Off Opik? says:

    Agreed about the Italian Trip thingey…really has some comedy gold moments. But I couldn’t help being impressed by the thought that their comic conversation was the last trace of a departing culture…

    And yes, if Dawn French, Jennifer Saunders, Joanna Lumley and Victoria whatsername all agreed not to appear on TV, Lenny would definitely be well on the way to securing his objectives.

  451. 451
    Is Lamb Off Opik? says:

    Me. The Loans Board has been around since the dawn of time. It is the original Quango!

  452. 452
    (That's enough Eds, Ed!) says:

    Looks good on him!

  453. 453
    (That's enough Eds, Ed!) says:

    Exceeding well said!

  454. 454
    (That's enough Eds, Ed!) says:

    The name of the bloke you hired compared to the names of the tradesmen who put it right tells me all I need to know!

  455. 455
    Archie P says:

    Ghastly w*g!

  456. 456
    Ockham's Razor says:

    Thanks for being such a scintillating conversationalist.

    Being locked up for twelve hours a day must make it more difficult for you.

  457. 457
    SC, an agglomoronation of protoplasmic intelligence (whatever that is) says:

    Don’t talk about mate SC like that.

  458. 458
    Ockham's Razor says:

    There is a new page which has appeared since you were locked up last night.

    Just saying in case you didn’t realise.

  459. 459
    Taxpayer-funded astroturfing EU Troll says:

    I bet he was cheap!

  460. 460

    A suitable footnote to this long discussion may be found here:


    Especially to the point is its conclusion:

    Many of the more thoughtful commentators in British politics have been contemplating how to have a proper conversation with Ukip-leaning voters about their fears over immigration, Europe and national identity. Ukip’s approach on these issues is not the right one, but calling a large section of the electorate closet bigots for harbouring anxieties that are absent from Hampstead dinner tables is not the right one either.


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