April 14th, 2014

Brides-Ed Revisited: Labour’s Gene Pool Problem

“The last Labour leadership challenge was a battle between brothers,” writes Tim Stanley. “The shadow chancellor is married to the shadow home secretary – a former leadership candidate wedded to a future one. The deputy leader is married to the shadow minister for communities and local government. The shadow secretary of state for the environment, food and rural affairs is sister of the shadow leader of the House of Commons.”

And when they’re not related or sleeping with one another, they all come from the same narrow educational gene pool:

Ed Miliband: PPE, Corpus Christi College, Oxford
David Miliband: PPE, Corpus Christi College, Oxford
Angela Eagle: PPE, St John’s College, Oxford
Maria Eagle: PPE, Pembroke College, Oxford
Ed Balls: PPE, Keble College, Oxford
Yvette Cooper: PPE, Balliol College, Oxford

Guido supposes the fact that Harriet Harman only made it to York after St Pauls is why Labour feel they can get on their high horse about the make up of their Shadow Cabinet.


  1. 1
    What a surprise says:

    Surely the education situation is common across our political class, and indeed those that report and comment on it in the media.

    Prep school then Public school then Oxbridge/Russell Group seems the prerequisite right across the upper echolons of our society, public and private.

    The marriage thing is a bit more unique….


    • 3
      What a surprise says:

      I mean christ, even that defender of the working classes and all things wimmin, Laurie Penny went to Brighton College ‘the smartest kid in the smart school’ and then Oxford


      • 15
        smartest no, brightest yes says:

        I am going to swap by pinky hairdo for curliers with flashing LEDs. Everyone within a mile will notice me.


      • 35
        jgm2 says:

        If she’s so fucking smart then how come she’s still doing work experience in her late twenties instead of a proper job?

        If I were her dad I’d be down at Brighton College asking for my fucking money back.


      • 67
        The Growler says:

        I notice none from Peters, Cambridge


    • 6
      fuck off working class says:

      In the past, Labour leaders children kept well away from politics. The post Wilson lot like to keep it in the family, preferraby London based families.


      • 7
        What a surprise says:

        It’s ok, Blair’s son will save us.


        • 21
          publish and be dammed says:

          What, publish the family secrets


        • 34
          Fatbott says:

          Even Fattbot’s son went to public school.


          • non taxable pikey says:

            He is now in Ghana at an International School. That’s where his dad is from.


          • jgm2 says:

            Ah, an ‘International School’. Where Aid-funded parents send their children to meet Aid-funded children from around the globe and become part of the aid-funded global hierarchy.

            Like Atlantic College and Pearson College.


          • Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

            His godfather is Jonathan Aitken so he doesn’t stand a chance.


          • Fred the pensioner says:

            International Schools the world over have excellent reputations for turning out very well educated kids from just about any nationality under the sun. The reason being that they operate free from any political interference and only employ properly educated staff. If you can get your kids into one of them do go for it – you won’t be sorry. Take it from an oldie with lots of experience in this field.


      • 50
        The two muppets. says:

        Labour ,rotten to the core.


    • 43
      in the city says:

      Sweet FA people passing through “The City” prior to being elected.


    • 85
      Cost-of-Labour-crisis says:

      Judging from this bunch of tw*ts PPE stands for Piss Poor Education.


    • 91
      Anonymous says:

      Not surprised the Tories are unable to form political dynasties when they’re so busy buggering each other and the country.

      Someone should tell them about the birds and bees.


    • 123
      broderick crawford says:

      yes , the marriage thing creates an incestuous internecine vitriolic fight for supremacy amongst both siblings and conjugal couplings …. to the detriment of the common electoral good.


    • 134
      Charlie says:

      I believe PPE was introduced in 1922 or there abouts as an alternative to Greats, in order to provide a broader education for Civil Servants. What a disaster. The introduction of PPE was coincided with the decline of Britain.

      A classicist with a knowledge of Roman engineering has a better technical education than someone with PPE.


      • 151
        stushie says:

        It,s simple,’PPErs’ could get by with spouting balls all day (and night) long.
        It’s not a proper degree cf engineering or physics FFS.


    • 150
      Anonymous says:

      Would be nice to know the grades received too, are all of the lower seconds / thirds or did any of them get a first?


  2. 2
    Come on Chelsea says:

    Chelsea for the cup


  3. 4
    Peter Martin says:

    Given the graduating output and their… achievements… it may be worth an actual scientist having a gander at what exactly an Oxford PPE does to a person.


    • 24

      Sounds like a job for Lew and Cookie. Tell them what the result should be and they’ll do a number for you.


      • 38
        Peter Martin says:

        :) And the BBC can have a secret meeting to justify saying it has been ‘settled’, albeit in advance. Though guessing an alumni gathering may see all necessary folk to arrange that in the same room.


    • 66
      Hypochondriac Bob - is blood supposed to come out of there? says:

      Whatever it does do Peter, after looking at the general effect of having one, it had better stay the hell away from me!


    • 86
      The Growler says:

      It produces a chappie like Dave, and he is down as first class hons


    • 119
      Anne Arquist says:

      A first in PPE is not worth a pass degree in science and engineering.


    • 124
      broderick crawford says:

      …. judging by this cohort s achievements it goes sone great way to cerebrally lobotomising them !


  4. 5
    Stephanie Flanders says:

    Isnt this the same small Gene Pool which the BBC also draws on?


    • 10
      What a surprise says:

      it’s the same gene pool all public life draws on, thats the wider point surely. the 93% of us who didn’t go to public school are overwhelming legislated for, judged by, QUANGO’D by, performed at, treated by etc. products of the public school system.


      • 58
        William says:

        Don’t blame the public schools, blame the socialist-infected state schools for failing the majority of their perfectly able pupils.


        • 133
          A.Crosland & S.Williams, posh Labour b'stards. says:

          Didn’t happen when we had Grammar schools for the brighter members of the working class. We stopped that cheeky game though!


      • 69
        mingers parade says:

        don’t be a pleb all your life


    • 79
      Glyn H says:

      Well you bedded two of the creeps, well that’s just the two we know about! Janet Daley had a good crack at the BBC, that swamp of Labour luvvies, in passing in her piece in yesterday’s Telegraph.


    • 90
      Sam Millionaireband, Racist socialist traitor to his country says:

      Same gene pool as the Cambridge spies too.
      Nasty own-class-hating, working-class-despising, delusional political automatons.


    • 136
      Keep it in the BBC says:

      You should know Stephanie – you “dated” both Eds.


  5. 8
    Yorkist says:

    What do you mean ‘only’ made it to York? Ok, it’s not Oxford, but York’s bloody good.


  6. 9
    Harriet Harpedo says:

    Dont forget man of the people Andy Burnham, villiage in Cheshire to Cambridge then quangoland.


  7. 11
    Don't give a shit about UKRAP, the Limp Dumbs or LieBore says:

    More chlorine, please. 50mm ordnance or a 2 inch mortar.

    Can I watch?


  8. 12
    FrankFisher says:

    I don’t really care where they went to uni – what concerns me is that none of these clowns has ever held down a job in the real world. Has never been skint, has never had to struggle to find work, has never worried where the next tenner might be coming from. Even the tories contain more individuals who’ve actually worked in proper jobs.

    In UKIP, we’re ordinary people with ordinary jobs and lives behind us. I think, increasingly, this is what Joe Public is looking for. You can’t fake sincerity, but you cannot fake your life – and this is going to cost labour dear.


    • 23
      What a surprise says:

      Nigel Farage (Dulwich College)

      he is as bad as the rest of the party leaders. A job in the City in the 80s followed by years sucking the Euro teat isn’t a ‘real’ job, it is a life experience as divorced from reality for the bulk of the population as any MP’s doing work experience at some think tank for their mate from the Upper Sixths Dad.

      I take your wider point though, just think old Nige is a rubbish example.


      • 89
        jimboooo says:

        Except Nige had a real job, Militwat never did. The banks may be complete bastards who are in many ways anti-capitalist, but to work for them requires some intelligence, hard work, cunning, graft. Nige turned down the chance to make millions more to try to save our parliament. Without politics and quangos, Miliband would be lucky to get a job stacking shelves.


        • 96
          FrankFisher says:

          Not only did Nigel work for someone, he also employed people – this experience matters.


        • 132
          What a surprise says:

          what tosh. most of the banking intake, particularly in the 80s was either what school you went to or if you were a wheeler dealer, he worked in commodities didn’t he? it was a den of spivs :D

          he had a job, most certainly, which sets him aside from many of our political class, but it was the City, which is a disconnect for most of us.


          • NE Frontiersman says:

            132; The City in the 80s, like it or not – and I don’t – was when the barrow boys moved into the exchanges. A lot of talented working-class boys made a lot of money. How much money you could make counted most for the first time. The trouble was, many of the old-school wallahs were a bit vague about the nuts and bolts, which is where Barings lost a wheel: they knew some oik was making them lots of money , until suddenly he wasn’t.


    • 32
      still walking into darkness says:

      You’re forgetting Frank that George Osborne had an extensive stint in the private sector as a retail assistant in the towels section I believe it was at Selfridges. Be fair, he did a whole two months there, critical experience to be a Chancellor. And you’re being very unkind to Miliband, he worked as a tv researcher for some political show for about 10 minutes once. I do have to agree you with you that the rest of them are c*nts


  9. 13
    Idiot says:

    Vote UKIP


  10. 14

    And they all read for the rich thicko students degree as well. Not a fag paper between them and the bulk of the political class on the government front bench. It’s almost enough to make you vote UKIP in your weaker moments.


  11. 16
    None of the above says:

    Get them on University Challenge.


  12. 17
    still walking into darkness says:

    Have you heard that sanctimonious hag Angela Thornberry, she was asked if the new proposed Minister for Women under, God help us, a Labour government was a good thing. She replied ‘yes’, the interviewer went on to ask if therefore there should a Minister for Muslims and one for Gays or one for men, she went quiet at that point and said ‘no’. Asked about a certain double standard here she went on to say ‘how good she was at her job’. Just an extremely unpleasant creature.


    • 47
      Not nice but dim says:

      I presume you mean the pompous, patronising but dimwitted Emily Thornberry ?


      • 53
        Question Time does comedy says:

        WHen is she next on that thursday night BBC program? The studio crowds laugh at her. Looking forward do it.


      • 61
        Another Welsh Windbag says:

        Emily Thornberry is Diane Abbott without the tan. Put the two of them side by side and see the same diction, hand/facial gestures, and same lack of any common sense. Their joint IQ is about the same as my shoe size.


  13. 18
    jgm2 says:

    Miliband is the spitting image of Giles Brandreth there.


  14. 19
    bergen says:

    As we seem to keep voting for them, we’ve got no-one to blame but ourselves.


    • 29
      Frustrated Voter says:

      Nobody else to vote for because City of London & Trades Union Fat Cats keep funding them.


    • 143
      NE Frontiersman says:

      19:Having been at a count in Waltham Forest where the turnout in one ward was 125%, I increasingly doubt that this is the case.


  15. 20
    Bob Crow says:

    I hear Hattie likes a bit of PIE. Doesn’t surprise me one bit.


  16. 26
    Officer Dibble says:

    And wee Dougie Alexander’s sister Wendy used to be leader of the Labour Party group in the Scottish Parliament, until she (ahem) “resigned” after breaking rules on donations


  17. 27
    Harriet says:

    Anyone for PIE? Jack likes his in chocolate sauce.


  18. 28
    Jack Dromey says:

    I love BBC.

    Big black cakes.


  19. 33
    C O (Ξ7q1) says:

    Strange article as Cameron has his PPE from Brasenose Oxford.


  20. 36
    Pitkapoika says:

    Oh come on now. Surely, following the BBC campaign, everyone knows it’s only going to Eton that renders a person unsuitable for Public Office, whilst working for fine upstanding organisations with links to PIE, is considered a mind expanding and enlightening undertaking, qualifying the subject(s) for high Government Office.


  21. 39
    Penfold says:

    Don’t hear the same level of bitching from the left about OxBridge elitists as you get about Eton.
    And how exactly does an alumni from OxBridge have any connection to or empathy with the working class.


  22. 40
    non taxable pikey says:

    Whatever you think about the current situation in Eastern Ukraine it has now become obvious that Putin is arming those who took over the government offices there. Captured personnel were armed with AK100 automatic rifles, the newest Russian gun, not available in the Ukraine or anywhere else outside of the Russian armed forces.


    • 55
      Fred Haircutz says:

      Strange they take all their tags and flashes off and do everything to not be identified yet they still get identified by their modern guns, that suggests whoever is in charge made a cockup in allowing them to take those modern guns, would have thought that would have been a no no from the beginning, but then the EU and the USA dark arts are at work and money has that magic of making anything happen.


  23. 42
    7% is just the tip of the iceberg says:

    Nick Clegg on telly lying his head off about what his party knew about the accusations re prolific sexual criminal Cyril Smith. He is claiming his party did not know about the accusations . This guy lies and lies and les.


    • 62
      The Public says:

      What do you expect? If he told the truth where do you think he’d be in the opinion polls? 0.7%, that’s where.


  24. 45
    jgm2 says:

    All that bunch and Cameron – PPE.
    Osborne – History
    Boris – Classics

    Does Oxford do any proper degrees? You know, sciences?


    • 48
      PPE = Pissed Poof Elite says:

      Cambridge is the place for proper Science


    • 51
      C.O.Jones says:

      Their sciences and maths depts have some of the best outputs in the academic world. But the way the system is set up it still favours applicants from independent schools.

      Politicians of all hues have been trying for decades to influence the student intake and get a fairer system but both Oxford and Cambridge do not enter into adjustment for their student intake.

      The system is improving but its very slow. All IMHO.


      • 57
        C.O.Jones says:

        “Adjustment” for the uninitiated is a process whereby students who have gained much better results (than expected), can apply to universities that are higher up the pecking order.


      • 115
        Fred the pensioner says:

        Yes indeedy – that is precisely the point I was making above at 4.05pm under entry no 34. Glad somebody else on here recognises excellence when they see it.


    • 88
      Another Engineer says:


      PPE is generally regarded as a joke. They all seemed to spend more time politicking in the Union or being Thesps than doing any actual study.

      The Cambridge equivalent is ‘Land Economy’, which is useful if you are going to inherit a large estate.


      • 100
        The Growler says:

        I heard it rumoured in the 1980’s in HR (posh name for personel department), if a candidate for a job put on his/her application a PPE a universal groan went up, in many places they were regarded as a joke.


    • 95
      Anti Fabian says:

      Margaret Thatcher – Chemistry, Sommerville College, Oxford


    • 127
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      My late father won a scholarship to Jesus College Oxford in 1939.

      After having his degree course in Physics interrupted by 6 years of war, where he served in the navy working on the newly developed radar, he went on to get both his BSC and MSC with honours in 1948.


  25. 52
    Mr Bingley says:

    I went to a black country comprehensive and work in a warehouse and pricks like Ed Balls want to appear working class

    I am not working class, so fuck knows what balls is


  26. 59
    Magnolia says:

    Don’t dis York, Peter Hitchens went to York and he’s brighter than the lot of them.


  27. 60
    a geneologist says:

    Harriet Harman is only non-Oxbridge because she was so thick that even the special Oxbridge training at her expensive public school was not sufficient.

    The niece of the Countess of Longford should have taken the hint and stuck spending her time getting in amusing scrapes with Bertie Wooster


  28. 70
    genghiz the kahn says:

    As that social commentator Nelson Muntz would say – Ha, Ha.


  29. 71
    PPE Trougher Dross says:

    Time to get Ofsted to inspect Oxford PPE. The fucking useless thieving criminals it produces is a scandal. Ronnie Biggs was a tutor wasn’t he?


    • 105
      The Growler says:

      Doubt it but Mr Big probably did, for the connections built, and they still have not got him!


    • 142
      NE Frontiersman says:

      My college Master was the government’s chief economic adviser. When Burton and Taylor gave the college some money for a new building the site wasn’t yet for sale, so the master invested the funds, pending the purchase.
      He lost the lot.
      His brother was the Fourth Man, by strange coincidence.


  30. 78
    Barrenness Cathy Ashtray says:

    You can call me thick and say I look like one of the cleaning staff, but with any luck I can start World War 111


    • 139
      Biffo says:

      Well, you’re certainly trying hard enough – I’ll grant you that. Meetings in Egypt & Syria then all the s*** – stirring in the Ukraine. Hopefully, you’ll get caught up in some of the unrest you’re creating & never be heard from again.


  31. 92
    Labour...mendacious expedient sociopaths says:

    the common denominators are sneer and unrivaled levels of hypocrisy… its a socialist thing nothing to do with education.


  32. 98
    Reg says:

    It all goes to show what a mess can be made by “educating” the “uneducatable”.


    • 116
      Fred the pensioner says:

      Yes, I agree with you. That’s what is wrong with much of the third world. When you start educating them, you raise their expectations – which regrettably can seldom be met; so that leaves lots of time for reasonably well educated layabouts to create trouble and problems.


      • 140
        NE Frontiersman says:

        116: Even more so here: wouldn’t you say that much government policy for the last thirty years has been an increasingly desperate bid to create white-collar work for the state-created lumpen-graduate class?
        Why else would the number of lawyers and accountants have quintupled in 30 years?
        Bear in mind that almost every penny such people earn is either state-funded, or somebody else’s tax deduction, or piled on to the price of housing. Brown didn’t double the size of Tolley’s Tax Guide entirely by accident.
        Imagine tens of thousands of articulate, semi-professional unemployed: what trouble might they cause once they sus that the HE Ponzi scheme was only intended to buy their parents’ votes?


  33. 99
    The Critic says:

    What novel would best describe this lot

    Bonfire of the Vanities? or with a little adjustment

    Dickhead Revisited


  34. 101
    ss says:

    So inbred 96% of them are their own grandfather.


  35. 106
    Quiet Flows The Thames says:

    How did the sons of a supposedly impoverished illegal marxist immigrant get to Oxford, was there any Moscow funding involved in all of this??

    Has anyone at all bothered to check?


    • 110
      C.O.Jones says:

      Cannot say for Ed but this was posted on another website regarding his brother.

      “There is more room to make the charge against David Milliband, who did far worse at A level and was admitted to Oxford under the terms of a widening access scheme (because from an inner London comp). This does seem like stretching a point, since attempts at widening access to university were surely never intended for the children of internationally famous professors.”


      • 117
        Fred the pensioner says:

        …or dim fuckwits who could not even get a decent A level. He stole the place from some kid far more deserving.


        • 122
          jgm2 says:

          ISTR he got a ‘D’ in his Physics ‘A’ Level. Real Oxford material.

          If I’d known the bar was so low I’d have applied to Oxford myself.


          • Another Engineer says:

            You obviously didn’t have a famous Marxist father, though.

            Toynbee was another one.

            Some of the old dons who are parked in a SCR for 40 years get pretty detached from reality. Wadham College used to have a large collection of lefties.

            This doesn’t happen so much in science departments because denying reality doesn’t get you very far.


  36. 108
    Boot Camp Nigel into counselling says:

    Labour are slime & they emerged from the primordial soup of scum. I despise them!

    No Future With Labour!


  37. 109
    The whole of the Labour Party. says:

    We hate success & Javid should have been on welfare, completely dependent on Labour to run his life for him. We would have helped him fill in his benefit forms.

    Javid is a despicable person.


  38. 111
    Graham says:

    All Oxford with a useless PPE degree,in other words thick and fucking useless, and never had a real job in the real world.Enough said.


  39. 113
    Conrad says:

    Not much by way of diversity there. One rule for them etc etc……….


  40. 120
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Pseudo Socialist Oxford Elitism.


  41. 121
    John Major says:

    Sajid Javid for next Tory leader and next PM !


  42. 128
    timbo46 says:

    Hardly surprising that there is a reciprocal love between all of them and the Guardian, the BBC and between Oxford and the Guardian


  43. 138
    Phish and Chips (RFID) says:

    Is this an example of convergence of mitochondrial DNA in the hierarchical control pyramid, i.e. insectualization? Since mitochondrial DNA is only passed down the female line and only the insect Queen produces progeny, the mitochondrial DNA evolves to be entirely fixed. The future is revealed and the Fabian Society master plan towards construction of the human hive is further consolidated through nepotism. Individualism will not be tolerated and eliminated.


  44. 146
    DAVE EAT'N HEAD says:

    Should read “Shite heads revisited”


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