April 3rd, 2014

SMOKED: Chantler’s Plain Package Parliamentary Pass Perk

Just how neutral is Maria Miller’s smokescreen and plain package advocate Sir Cyril Chantler? Earlier he would have had us believe he is just a simple Consultant Paediatrician, yet he holds a Parliamentary staff pass from Baroness Cumberlege, the former Junior Health Minister, who in 1992 called for a complete phase out on the sale of cigarettes in the UK by 2020:

“The 25 phase-out would require sharp reductions in the numbers of young people who take up smokers “redoubling education efforts will go a long way to that end,” said Lady Cumberlege “Ultimately, I suppose some form of prescription dispensing could be envisioned to ‘accommodate’ the last aged addicted smokers in the realm,” she said.”

Interestingly Baroness Cumberlege set up a company called Cumberlege Eden which works extensively with the NHS, regulatory organisations and the pharmaceutical industry.  As part of this work they run various lobbying programmes – one called The Westminster Experience:

“The Westminster Experience does not simply provide a way of introducing people to Government whose organisations they may need to influence; it is a way of learning how (and how not) to deal with them on “live” issues which may unfold in the glare of the hostile press. As well as political skills, participants will learn to appreciate how important timing and the use of language can be to Ministers and civil servants.”

What stage of the 25 part plan to ban smoking is keeping the plain pack report author sweet?


  1. 1
    Gary Bloke says:

    The picture of him has been reversed, putting his buttonhole on the wrong side. Either that or he should get a new tailor.

  2. 2
    All the world says:

    They look like a pair of smoked kippers

  3. 3
    DAVE EAT'N HEAD says:

    Dave gives his full support to Maria Miller , as she pushes him a step nearer the door
    You’ve out stayed your welcome Dave , now clear your desk and drop the latch on your way out
    You utterly useless TWAT

  4. 4
    grasmit says:

    Its like a mad thing gone crazy.Who are these people who know best?

  5. 5
    cured lefty says:

    A cosy clique of khunts every last one of them

  6. 6
    Rotherhampoofta says:

    I suppose some form of prescription dispensing could be envisioned to ‘accommodate’ the last aged addicted smokers in the realm,” she said.” Who the fuck is this old draconian cnut?

  7. 7
    Maria Miller says:

    I love getting away with it.

  8. 8
    Taxpayer says:

    All these revolving doors, sweatheart deals, backhanders, “consulting” contracts, lobbying, PR fraud and generalised but unpunished theft have become sickening

    There really do not seem to ne any honest politicians, even fron the Thatcher era


  9. 9
    Prime Minister"The Dunce Of Downing Street" Cameron says:

    “We’ve led the way on cleaning up MP’s expenses and we’ll finish the job by scrapping the perks…” Maria Miller’s 2010 election leaflet.

    Stupid fucking tart !!

  10. 10
    Sky health consultant says:

    When the air pollution causes you to collapse,

    It is too late

  11. 11
    Toxic Labour for Spongers, Parasites, Criminals, Green Nazis, Peedos and other Wasters says:

    Once the health Nazis have defeated the smokers and banned cigarettes they will be after cream cakes. So be warned, cream cake addicts are next.

  12. 12
    Norman Tebbit says:

    Why isn’t this thief jailed? What type of society do we live in?


  13. 13
    A smoker. says:

    You can package fags with pictures of dogshit on them, I will still smoke. It is addiction. So this packaging nonsense, solves nothing for smokers. Delusional!

  14. 14
    cured lefty says:

    Lets hope her constituents give her the jacki smith solution come 2015

  15. 15
    Bang Her Up says:

    The committee said it had taken so long to report because of the complexity of the MP’s financial affairs and because they had been unable to get information with ease.

    FFS, how can this bitch be allowed to carry on ?

  16. 16
    ned ludd says:

    Thatcher honest? Remember the Cementation contract? Remember Mark going on all her little official trips? And who introduced the exxies fiddles whilst holding mp’s wages down. She was a feckin crook.

  17. 17
    Kay Burlesque says:

    I found the winner last nite

    Did I, Eamonn?

  18. 18
    Podiceps says:

    The Westminster Experience is not unlike being waterboarded, but takes longer.

  19. 19
    Kay Burlesque says:

    That is an insult to kippers

  20. 20
    Podiceps says:

    Next but one, after dr!nkers.

  21. 21
    Hansard writrr says:

    Where is the Deputy Speaker when we need him?

  22. 22
    broderick crawford says:

    Perhaps the suit is bespoke made to measure and he is left handed …. not a comforting thought in one who has to operate on small persons , or indeed any size of person.

    Is there such a thing as a left handed surgical instrument kit . ?

  23. 23
    Anonymous says:

    he’s not that good.

  24. 24
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    that shopkeeper mentality, So long as it is you that makes the profit. Even in families there is often one who will try to hoodwink the rest for gain. What we need is more altruism in society and in industry, a bit like a ship’s crew, each one acting efficiently in their role for the best for the ship.

  25. 25
    rick says:

    It’s all about control.

  26. 26
    Express Yourself with Crayons says:

    I am sure you will get over it one day.

  27. 27
    Anonymous says:

    They know we know but by ignoring us it will soon be forgotten. Maybe so but we are reaching the limit. The cost of government could be halved by getting rid of this establishment and it WILL happen and the sooner the better.

    Real prosperity is coming to Britain.

  28. 28
    David Cameron says:

    We’re all in this together. I mean that most sincerely, folks

  29. 29
    Lobby correspondent says:

    I see ketamine has been found to be good for depression

    Will we see Alky Al Campbell and Stephen Fry dansing on the tables in the Westminster Arms to improve our boozy evenings?

  30. 30
    broderick crawford says:

    “Ultimately , I suppose some form of prescription dispensing could be envisioned to ‘accommodate’ the last aged addicted smokers in the realm,” she said.”

    What of the last bastions of addicted drinkers in the realm ?

    The problem of course is according to current research drinkers are getting younger and younger so if the good lady redeploys that manoeuvre on the drinking masses she ll be there till Domesday.

    She may not smoke but does she herself drink ?

  31. 31
    Twatwatch says:

    It often seems to be the case that the large expensive London house with the big mortgage where they spend the majority of their time and where their children go to school is their second home. Whilst the mortgage free, modest constituency, weekend “cottage” is their main residence….Erm wonder why?

  32. 32
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    It is possible to stop but it takes about 5 years to really get over the desire, you may not be young enough for stopping to be worthwhile.
    I found to begin multiples of 3 seemed to be markers
    3 hours, 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months, 3 years.

  33. 33
    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    To put it plainly The Westminster Experience inevitably leads to issues which unfold in the “glare of the hostile press”, has Consultant Paediatrician been spelt right?.

  34. 34
    broderick crawford says:

    Relocate to Greece , Spain Italy or any of the ClubMed or eastern european states dear boy . At least there they all admit they are crooked and merrily accept all the ritualised insults the populace periodically throws at them then carry on as before .

    Oh wait ……..

  35. 35
    Sir Tristram Vagina DSG, TD, SRI, CGI says:

    I can’t see why these MPs don’t have a Halls of Residence to stay in while they’re attending Parliament. A no-frills budget-hotel style building with good security and within a tube stop or two of Westminster. It’d save us a fortune

  36. 36
    broderick crawford says:

    I suggest ” tart ” would be gilding the lily somewhat …..

  37. 37
    Analyst says:


  38. 38
    Smoggy says:

    So the arrogant Miller chose to obstruct the investigation by the standards committee, and failed to provide the full evidence they required. In that case she may feel more obliged to be investigated by the police, instead of by the toothless standards committee. Then big Dave may be able to eventually brush it under the carpet or not. Try telling your local police, sorry I forgot to insure the car, and you would prefer not to cooperate, and see what you get.
    When will these hypocrites realise they are there to serve Joe public not themselves

  39. 39
    Justice says:

    Why doesn’t someone bring a private prosecution?

  40. 40
    Analyst says:

    Obstruction of justice is normally a criminal offence

  41. 41
    broderick crawford says:

    Are you related to the late Hughie Green ?

  42. 42
    Lobby correspondent says:

    It would need free rentboys and ketamine, methinks

  43. 43
    Lobby correspondent says:

    They have to go cottaging, you simpleton

  44. 44
    Justice says:

    It is always a criminal offence. Just because no-one in Parliament has the integrity to recognize that fact and allows her to hide behind their conspiratorial pantomimes does not make this thief, and many like her in Westminster, any less of a crook.

  45. 45
    broderick crawford says:

    Indeed . Why don t they just bring sleeping bags and doss down in the QE Conference Centre acriss the road . Then at weekends they could share the cleaning rota.

  46. 46
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    I used to work for a Swiss company they used to pay all my invoices for work and expenses without question. I could have put anything on the invoice and they would pay it, 200 here, a hundred there but I never did and I always declared everything for the tax and the vat not because I am stupid but because I feel ill if I consider lying or cheating.

  47. 47
    Citizen says:

    I don’t accept her apology.

  48. 48
    Consultant says:

    Do you business thru the “Westminster Experience” and all backhanders and favours will be hidden from sight

  49. 49
    Making Plans For Nigel says:

    If you are ever brought before any court or tribunal for any impropriety , stand tall , feel no shame . That’s how the rich and powerful behave, so why shouldn’t you and I ? Fiddled benefits ? Fiddled expenses ? Well, don’t worry. As Dave Cameron says, just apologise, and let that be the end of the matter. What a nice man he is..

  50. 50
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:


    Guido hates Maria Miller.

    Strongly disagree

    Strongly agree

  51. 51
    Oh No Not More Nanny Laws says:

    “We’re going to sweep it all away”

    Yeah, right, you lying git.

  52. 52
    Ambidextrous says:

    About as rare as a left handed piano I imagine!

  53. 53
    DWP says:

    I’m sorry due to an administrative error, you never sent me the appointment on time, I was ten minutes late for my Appointment with the DWP.”
    “Tough luck sonny, you’ve just lost your money for a month, your kids will freeze and starve and you will go into rent arrears

  54. 54
    The Delusional Experience says:

    Baroness Cumberlege can fuck off! Fascist Hunt! No doubt a Labour arselicker & money grubber! No place in society for fascist scum & she stick packaging up her arse for all the good it does! Crap psychology and money down the drain! Ffs!

  55. 55
    dpk1949 says:

    why did a labour MP go to jail and others have had their hands slapped. Nadhim Zahawi tried to claim his stables heating bill. they have no shame, this guy was on TV days later telling us Smiths welfare changes were right for the country. they see no wrong in it only problem is they were caught

  56. 56
    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    R’ussia / U’kraine exchange today – a little provokatsiya set piece:

    UKR SBU have got reasonable evidence that R’ussia was behind the sniper shootings now, and have arrested alleged FSB operatives in K’iev (who were with the now disbanded B’erkut)


    This is credible, and demonstrates how one may need to be careful when criticising EU / NATO / US etc. involvement.

    GRU are well known to have infiltrated much of the UKR government and it is simply much more credible that R’uss!a would wish to engage in actions which discredit both the West and new UKR government to support its annexation strategy.

    On the flip side: Any denials from R-Fed MFA ? Niet – at least, not yet.

    However, later today, this happened:


    So a tit for tat set of arrests – the UKR arrests sound more credible.

    However, this is all very likely to be a little provokatsiya completely orchestrated by the K’remlin. The release of the UKR arrest news + allegation through !nterfax ensured that this news made it onto the global news wires.

    If the West continues to not do anything this serves to discredit. The effect on polarizing opinion of UKR nationalists against R’ussian’s within UKR is obvious and is precisely what P’tin needs. It also serves subtly to discredit the UKR government, another K’remlin aim.

    The secondary story is perfect fodder for building public support in R’ussia for the upcoming assault on UKR.

    Elsewhere, according to !nterfax, Russian DM is recalling Russia’s main military envoy to NATO, General Yevnevich, to Moscow for consultations.

  57. 57
    Vermin in ermine says:

    I see the LibDem peers have voted in favor of the Bedroom Tax. How long did Farron’s promise last, a day?

  58. 58
    Black Rod says:

    If a benefits claimant were guilty of Maria Miller’s ‘mistake’ she’d be facing prosecution

    Cameron has to ditch her


  59. 59
    A Brazilian Rent Boy says:

    See Owen Jones author of Chavs, live in action at HTLGI14 as he unleashes an attack on the British Establishment http://buff.ly/1lpQSyB

  60. 60
    Twatwatch says:

    David Cameron, retract your claim about Labour privatising Royal Mail
    And while we’re at it, Vince Cable can come clean about these 16 ‘priority investors’ who sold their shares so quickly.

  61. 61
    I says:

    Cameron is knowingly aiding and abetting a criminal. He should be charged with fraud under the ‘joint enterprise’ rules.

  62. 62
    Talwin says:

    Odious bastards all.

  63. 63
    You have 2 be double dim to vote Labour. says:

    Pish poor psychology and money down the drain! Bullying Fascism achieves nothing as does pathetic plain packaging It just neutralises a brand & nothing else! This is Labour’s delusional, money wasting bullshit which the government has been forced to go along with.

  64. 64
    Jack says:

    It seems the roof has fallen on their heads in Clubmedland

    Even Berlusconi finally flushed out – but still very rich on his theft

  65. 65
    Jack says:

    Or private arrest?

    Like Blair…

  66. 66
    Podiceps says:

    One of the very few machines made to accommodate left-handers is the Uzi machine pistol, which can be set up with the safety catch etc. on the other side. This tells you a lot about human priorities.

  67. 67
    Podiceps says:

    I have been drinking for at least 55 of my 65 years, but sadly I don’t seem to be getting any younger.

  68. 68
    Podiceps says:

    Plain packaging has already been tried in Australia and has made no difference to sales of cigarettes.

  69. 69
    Phil Anthropissed says:


  70. 70
    Reddies under Beddies says:

    Do stop boring us with your CIA Cold War agitprop

    Nigel got it right last night

    Stop going around poking bears in eyes and your dirty tricks

    Negotiate a compromise and grow up

  71. 71
    Podiceps says:

    I smoked till I got swine flu a few years ago, when it was going around. With that, you can’t smoke, you can hardly breathe. When I recovered, I thought, Shall I start smoking again? and decided not to. Have never had the slightest craving from then on.

  72. 72
    Lampshades says:

    What I don’t understand about the plain packaging advocates is why they think it is necessary, given that they have already decreed that cigarettes are hidden from public view in supermarkets.

  73. 73
    The Queen's Award for Wannabes says:

    It makes him feel important.

  74. 74
    Some mud says:

    That’s clear.

  75. 75
    Tachybaptus says:

    The government’s fuckup cost the taxpayer well north of a billion quid. And when confronted about it, Cameron tells lies about Labour in PMQ.

    How can you possibly defend that?

  76. 76
    There are Reds under your bed says:

    Only 55 years of boozing?

    You need another 10 or 20 to achieve Churchillian greatness and immunity

  77. 77
    Scott Free says:

    Cameron: “An over-payment was found which she is going to pay back. She’ll make a full apology, and I think people should leave it at that.”

    Tell that to the disabled who lost benefits; tell it to those who lost homes because of the bedroom tax; tell it to the student deported back to Mauritius; tell it to those who have to use foodbanks in one of the richest economies (believe it or not…) in the world.

    Hypocritical doesn’t even start to describe it – too many of ‘our’ representatives have got away with this ‘mistake’ in claiming falsely and then apologised; it stinks

  78. 78
    Nick says:

    Okay guys – I lost so I’m joining UKIP on Monday. I agree with Nigel! Everyone you talk to is sick of the gay loving Roma and the 29 million poles.

  79. 79
    Another idea that wont work from the "Nanny State" says:

    The fact is that the majority of people don’t smoke and the ones that do won’t be deterred by this gimmick.

  80. 80
    i.am.will says:

    Cameron’s crooks also include the Wintertons who ensured we paid for their daughter to have a flat. When they retired in 2010 Cameron even went to their leaving do at Westminster!

    He pretended to shame he obviously did not feel.

  81. 81
    Another Engineer says:

    Not that I like smokers or smoking particularly, but this seems like a waste of time.

    How long before you can buy special covers for your fag packets in suitable colours?

  82. 82
    No smoke without fire says:


  83. 83
    OnBenefits says:

    I overclaimed benefit by £5800, and then I refused to cooperate with the Benefits people when they investigated. But it’s OK, because I will apologise, pay it back, and they’ll leave me alone.

  84. 84
    Tom Catesby says:

    Where will government raise the necessary taxation when smoking and the sale of tobbacco products is banned?

  85. 85
    Brass Neck says:

    Maria Miller, the poor dear, only takes home £1500 a week. Sure, she can claim stuff on top of that, like rent for larger homes and travel expenses for her family, but it can`t be easy only pocketing a little over 81 grand a year bottom line.

    So she pulled a fast one, then obstructed justice with her withdrawal of co-operation, but she`s decent, honest, and exactly what puts the GREAT in Britain.

    To be fair, she only claims the same expenses as Cameron, Clegg and a host of others do, but hopefully they’ll stay sharp enough to keep a closer eye on their pittance.

    Now do as you`re told, Britain, for Miller has spoken.

    “I thank the committee for bringing this matter to an end”

    There you go. Shut up about it now. It`s nothing to do with you anyway.

    Well done, Prime Minister, on offering your warm support, and business as usual in the British political class.

    I wish I could pay more tax, then these paupers wouldn’t have to turn to crime

  86. 86
    M­a­­q­bo­­ul says:

    With that suit, the tie is utterly ghastly.

  87. 87
    Tom Catesby says:

    The skin of someone with a sixty a day habit, that women.

  88. 88
    If you poke a bear expect to be clawed says:

    Haven’t you got it yet ? This is yesterday’s news. Nobody in the west cares about the Ukraine anymore. The rolling news band wagon has moved on

  89. 89
    Brass Neck says:

    Additionally, this 10 grand a year pay rise for MPs can’t come soon enough.

    I just can’t bear to see them struggling so with austerity and all.

    I’m seriously considering donating my children for them to burn to heat their homes.

  90. 90
    David Cameron says:

    That’s very Big Society of you

  91. 91
    Oliver Cromwell says:

    I agree.

    I have come to the conclusion that as there is no longer any justice in this country, and there is no longer a functioning democracy, people would be are within their rights as citizens to organise ourselves to remove this system of government and put a better one in its place. Such a process, which could be described as a revolution, would require a brief period in which acts would have to take place which in other circumstances might be considered unlawful. However, I think that in the light of the exterem provocation which the current Members of parliament keep providing and in order to prevent and curtail their continual impunity and deliberate criminal behaviour, it might be right for such a process to take place. People, motivated by patriotism and a desire for good givernance who engage in acts aimed solely at replacing this regime with a democratic and law-abiding one should be absolved of criminal liabilities for deeds necessary to bring that about.

  92. 92
    Derek Laud says:

    Messgae for Mr Menzies. If all else fails you can join me at Elm House Botters’ Lobbyists of Dolphin Square

  93. 93
    The British media are cunts says:

    obvious question. If a member of the public makes a formal complaint about Maria Miller don’t the Police then have a duty to investigate?

  94. 94
    Parliament is a disgrace says:

    They will even come round and sit on the sofa next to you while you mumble 31 seconds worth of rubblish about how ‘sorry’ you are.

  95. 95
    Derek Laud says:

    Owen? Didn’t he spend some time under Chuka Umunna? You know what I mean, bet he still has teeth marks in the back of his ears.

  96. 96
    Sinister Sid says:

    Actually, Yamaha made a left-handed piano for a wealthy Japanese chap. I’ve no idea if he ever learned to play it. As a left hander, I play a number of right-handed stringed instruments and don’t seem to have any problems. We lefties are a clever bunch.

  97. 97
    Court reporter says:

    This is what the CIA has been doing for years

    Killing, torturing and dirty tricks…..and the US Congress knows they are gangsters


    Even smearing the US Congress now FFS

  98. 98
    The Police says:

    We are lazy and useless. Next question?

  99. 99
    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    The problem is that the bear is poking itself in the eye.

    Question for Europe / NATO is what will happen when R’ussia moves in on the B’altics ?

    Fair sized NATO troop deployment to R’omania today, and it is looking like the Montreux agreement may be forcibly re-written in the not too distant future :-)

  100. 100
    Court reporter says:

    + 1000

  101. 101
    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    You were doing fine until you provided a G’uardian report.

  102. 102
    william.i.am says:


  103. 103
    The Garden Furniture says:

    Hogwash. Russia are not going ‘move in on the Baltics’. You are often quite sensible and interesting on here, but over this issue you are being as silly as the people who peddled the 45 minute WMD guff before the 1st gulf war.

  104. 104
    עוזי‎ Watch says:

    Ok – let’s see how long until the mongs take the bait…

  105. 105
    Court reporter says:

    This is from this lady’s Parliamentary declaration of “interests”

    Remunerated employment, office, profession etc.

    National Health Service organisations
    London Boroughs and Local Government organisations
    Florence Nightingale Foundation
    The King’s Fund
    PricewaterhouseCoopers Ltd
    Clarity Informatics Ltd (health informatics)

    That seems to me to be mega troughing off the taxpayer using connections she obtained as a Junior Health Minister

    Revolve the door, Minister

  106. 106
    They call the wind Maria - Windy Maria says:

    His Honour the Mayor of Trumpton :

    Here is a box –

    This box hides a secret inside –

    What do you suppose is inside the box today ?


    Westminster Audience : “Open the box – take the money !”


    [Dry ice deployed, stage disappears from view in cloud of ‘smoke’.]

  107. 107
    he's a bloody hypocrite says:

    Is that Owen Jones who went to Oxford Uni and travels first class?

  108. 108
    Court reporter says:

    + 1000

  109. 109
    Piano Watch says:

    Done first for Brit by a Dutch manufacturer:


  110. 110
    Johnny Norfolk says:

    I had a Montecristo number 3 to celibrate.

  111. 111
    Maria "Windy" Miller says:

    I fart in your general direction.

  112. 112
    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    Perhaps best not to count chickens before they’ve hatched.


    If I told you 8 weeks ago that R’ussia would Annex Cr!mea and line up to take over U’kraine you would have said exactly the same.

  113. 113
    I'm not a smoker but... says:

    Why don’t the cigarette manufacturers fight back?
    Their products are legal and the Government makes
    millions in taxes from smokers.

  114. 114
    Fido Gawkes says:

    She just has to repay £5800? What a joke!
    Lets ALL write to her requesting OUR money back: maria.miller.mp@parliament.uk

  115. 115
  116. 116
    Lou Scannon says:

    Swine flu ? Another bloody scam based on scaring the natives.
    Whatever you had, I seriously doubt that pigs were in any way involved.
    Meanwhile, the ‘health’ industry made a packet.

  117. 117
    Dave says:

    It’s tempting to lash out and wish tumours or dementia on both of them.

    But I shan’t. I hope that they outlive their contemporaries and children – even their grandchildren – so they are left with their minds – such as they have – in their enfeebled, old, aching bodies.

    It took this degree of mental retardation to decree warning about smoking while pregnant on pipe tobacco.

    We are talking here about the worst scum on Earth. They won’t diddle benefits (although MPs’ expenses is something else), they won’t mug you or beg from you. They will control you.

  118. 118
    Oliver Cromwell says:

    It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonoured by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.

    Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse; gold is your God; which of you have not barter’d your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?

    Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil’d this sacred place, and turn’d the Lord’s temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress’d, are yourselves gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In the name of God, go!

  119. 119
  120. 120
    David Cameron says:

    We never even dated.


  121. 121
    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    And then you overlooked the simple fact of why anyone should care if the C!A tortures a bunch of scumbags who wish to do us harm ?

    Incidentally – After the climate change report and the vote on Cr!mea it is safe to say that the UN is perhaps not the most impartial body to speak on such matters, and in any case it has no real power over the US.

  122. 122
    Disabled Scapegoat says:

    “Miller apologises over mortgage expenses.”

    This brings into question the roll out of (PIP) Personal Independence Payments and her part in it.

    Maria Miller. Former Minister against disabled people.

    Introduced (PIP) Personal Independence Payments.

    I was said by Miller at the time that, more stringent tests were needed to replace (DLA) Disability Living Allowance. She intimated that disabled people might be fraudulently claiming.

    The disabled community always knew she was less than truthful about disabled claimants. Every dog has its day Maria, enjoy.

  123. 123
    nell. says:

    Watched her “apology”. Really? But, hang on, I thought that this a core plank of this administration’s aim was to stamp down on benefit fraud… Do parliamentary privileges prevent a member of the public, such as a resident of her constituency, from walking into a police station to formally report a crime they believe to have been committed? I’m seriously asking, any light on this from any reallife legal eagle listening? I’m thinking like when the SNP MacNeill did exactly that over cash for honours crime?

  124. 124
    Andrew Efiong says:

    The independent recommendation was that she repay £44,000…In the end it was watered down to £5,800…

    One can only imagine the outcry if a ‘welfare claimant’ fiddled £500; Liars, cheats, hypocrites…A pox on the lot of them..

  125. 125
    The British People, From Whom all Parliament's Claims of Sovereignty Come says:

    Where is our right of recall? You didn’t provide one, despite the promises?

    OK, Parliament, We hope you won’t mind if we take matters back into our own hands.

  126. 126
    West Side Story from Dave to one of his hos says:

    Maria, Maria,
    I’ve just met a thief called Maria
    And now I have to say
    In each and every way
    To you
    Maria, Maria, Maria
    You really have to go
    That, both you and I do know
    Is true.
    Maria, Maria, Maria
    Make it soon, make it clear it’s unbidden
    Then spend your gains or just keep them hidden.
    Maria. Maria, Maria

  127. 127
    Fat Norm says:

    Maybe I’m being naive but why do we need a Culture Secretary anyway? Education, Health, Armed Forces, of course, but … culture? Why can’t it look after itself?

  128. 128
    White rabbit says:

    Bollocks to plain packaging and woodland creature Miller. Having revised the day’s business I’m mortified to learn that Goddess and delight Emma Thompson is a Labour luvvie…I’m shattered. In fact it’s a fabrication. I don’t believe it.

  129. 129
    Big D says:

    This has been a bad day for my blood pressure..
    That bloody woman getting let off by Cameron and Co and now the bloody mad nanny knows best lot telling us all how to run our lives .
    Please just leave us alone , we all die from something or other its up to us if we wish to choose fags , Im starting again from tomorrow .
    Winston had it right cigars and plenty of whisky helps us all to get through.

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    The Garden Furniture says:

    On reflection, I tend to think I wouldn’t have. Russia have legitimate interests in the Crimea, military bases, a local population with strong political, legal, family, social and cultural ties with Russia.

    I suspect would have said that any attempt to bring the whole of the Ukraine into Nato and the EU which looked half-likely to scucceed was likely to be a trigger for serious trouble in Kharkiv and the other rest of the Eastern cities. In point of fact, as I am a pessimist about the situation and also a student of the organised football violence which is endemic in that part of the world, I would have predicted far more serious violence in the eastern Russian areas of Ukraine than has so far actuated: Putin’s strong but measured response seems to have reassured the Russian speakers there that they need not resort to the mass violence which I fear could yet break out.

  131. 131
    Common Purpose says:

    Someone has to promote the multi-culti crap and syphon taxpayers’ cash to the useful idiots in Hampstead.

  132. 132
    Gobshite says:

    Avian flu, shurely.

  133. 133
    Gobshite says:


    FIFY :-)

  134. 134
    Reader says:

    I no longer smoke – not since my wife’s pneumonia. But I fully respect the rights of smokers to do so should they choose. I also think businesses, certainly pubs, which want to should be permitted to allow smoking on their premises, provided they can organise reasonable ventilation.

  135. 135
    Gobshite says:

    Where are the little tit things I can click one of?

  136. 136
    guidons sphincter muscle on holiday says:

    We don’t care for Europe, Nigel told us not to bother.

  137. 137
    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    If R’ussia had legitimate interests, why did they not state that pursuing the matter through diplomatic and civilized means, and instead opt to break international law by annexing Cr!mea and then placing 40,000 troops along the north and eastern borders of U’kraine ?

  138. 138
    The Garden Furniture says:

    Fighting as fun…

  139. 139
    Gobshite says:

    Interesting background on her grubby little wheeze here:


    Quote: “Despite breaking the rules with regard to declaring her outside interests and those of her business partner, Cumberlege did not face any disciplinary action.”

  140. 140
    White Dees sphincter muscle on holiday says:

    Fuckin nerve, this Miller woman. She come up here and I’ll smack her one. When that’s follow up,programme coming, these bennies don’t last long you know, I want another bleeding cheque Channel Effing Four.

  141. 141
    glad to be Vlad says:

    So the open prison known as the Houses of Parliament lives to bequeath your cash for another day. Not a good day coming after friend Nigel showing your deputy PM of the little island what a champion looks like.

    Prost! vote Nigel in EU.

  142. 142
    The Garden Furniture says:

    Kharkov rioters keep off the flower beds

  143. 143
    The Garden Furniture says:

    Is it just me, or is there a strange silence emanating from the usually voluble chattering classes and political commentariate?

    Would one not expect a large number of instant polls to be issued charting the relative strengths of the parties, with all sorts of projected results if Nick Clegg had put in a creditable performance yesterday evening?

  144. 144
    Governmentn Health Warning (on plain fag packets) says:

    Voting Lib/Lab/Con will seriously damage the rest of your life

  145. 145
    Who wants to be a Million Mayor says:

    Anti Resident Parking Zone March in Clifton Bristol, disrupted by George Red Trousers Ferguson. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udc4ArFY8FU&feature=youtu.be

  146. 146
    Lord Denning's Waddle says:

    Possession is 9/10ths of the law

  147. 147
    Oh No Not More Nanny Laws says:

    It’s legislating disapproval. Expect more of it.

  148. 148
    David Cameron says:

    Chillax. Everything’s fine.

  149. 149
    TV Quick says:

    A clean conscience is worth more than some stolen expenses.

  150. 150
    Anonymous says:

    Just testing whether the word immigration
    Now triggers the ModBot’s disapprobation

  151. 151
    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    Another issue that UKIP should be raising the profile of:

    NATO members agreed to spend 2% of GDP on defence in order to meet costs and more equally share with the US.

    In 2012, the following 4 countries met that commitment:

    US, UK, G’reece, and E’stonia

    The other 24 countries in the alliance ?



    %'age GDP on Defence: NATO target = 2%
    G'ermany    : 1.3%
    F'rance     : 1.9%
    B'elgium    : 1.0%
    N'etherlands: 1.3%
  152. 152
    talwar says:

    diet control and free yourself.
    the world is run by magic though.
    Strangely the dutiful Saturn is said to have a deep lake (of emotion). will life be known in 2 to 3 years time.
    odious is saturn plus. the stress of “odiious” automatically goes into the right shoulder. affirm within.
    affirmation statement is “i am right”
    if the stress shifts to the left shoulder the silent affirmation statement “I am left” does the trick.

  153. 153
    Bosun Higgins says:

    AND a supporter of Government control of the press.

  154. 154
    Maggie Thatcher says:

    They’re a weak lot.

  155. 155
    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    Errata: In 2012 and 2013 those countries alone made the min 2% target.

    L’uxembourg only contributes 0.4% of it’s GDP: Super Shame considering all the tax they essentially steal from the UK…

  156. 156
    We need our Berlin Wall moment says:

    Any comments CO7 regarding the Turkish military’s plan to drag it and presumably the rest of NATO into a direct war with Syria via a staged, false flag attack?

  157. 157
    Westminster's the enemy says:

    The british establishment had better pray like fcuk they don’t get us into a shooting war with Putin.

    Cos I can tell you it aint going to be a re-run of 1914 with crowds of patriotic but naive plebs cheering the troops off to the front.

    More a deep simmering, sullen, bitter resent at the entire Quisling political class.

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    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    Difficult to say who is really pulling the strings there.

    Looks like one of R’ussia or !ran, but with the conflict between G’ul and E’rdogan it could be the EU.

    One needs to look more objectively at who exactly could have obtained that information and how, then decide if it is really credible or not. If it was the MIT then T’urkey may find itself in a bit of a constitutional mess.

    E’rdogan is on the record that he would prefer the SCO to the EU for trade links and has established strong ties with Ch!na – ostensibly because Ch!na builds and manufactures in T’urkey as opposed to the EU which would make T’urkey dependent on imports.

    Gul seems to prefer the EU.

    Believe that the plan was incredible, especially as T’urkey’s position has in recent history been defensive: See track record with NATO Art 4.

    However, the question of who would like to discredit E’rdogan and destabilize the government and why is much more complicated and interesting.

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    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:


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    glad to be Vlad says:

    I was told I could peer through the classroom windows but not go inside as it would be too disruptive for the students.

    The classes were mixed in terms of gender but the girls – most of whom were wearing white headscarves – were sitting among girls, and the boys were at desks with other boys.

    It could be argued that as more than 90% of its pupils are Muslims of Pakistani heritage the school is simply adhering to a culture and religion that is popular among those that attend.

    The Chair of Governors, Tahir Alam, was adamant that no compulsory Islamic practices were forced on the students, but he was not keen on me speaking to other members of staff, apart from a non-Muslim maths teacher who he said he had a close relationship with.


    This is a brum school. Just how many are like this? Why are we paying to educate an alien heritage culture here and in Pakistan, is it any wonder there is no money left.

    This school is alleged to have had an Al Q inspired assembly. Origin of the next band of terrorists…duh?

    Wake up UK.

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    glad to be Vlad says:

    I was told I could peer through the classroom windows but not go inside as it would be too disruptive for the students.

    The classes were mixed in terms of gender but the girls – most of whom were wearing white headscarves – were sitting among girls, and the boys were at desks with other boys.

    It could be argued that as more than 90% of its pupils are Musl1ms of Pakistan1 heritage the school is simply adhering to a culture and religion that is popular among those that attend.

    The Chair of Governors, Tahir Alam, was adamant that no compulsory Islamic practices were forced on the students, but he was not keen on me speaking to other members of staff, apart from a non-Musl1m maths teacher who he said he had a close relationship with.


    This is a brum school. Just how many are like this? Why are we paying to educate an alien heritage culture here and in Pakistan, is it any wonder there is no money left.

    This school is alleged to have had an Al Q inspired assembly. Origin of the next band of terror!sts…duh?

    Wake up UK.

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    i think says:

    Be handy if someone could go through all
    of Clegg’s spurious EU claims and prove what
    a shameless liar he is.

  164. 164
    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    Ok – any lefty fuck-sticks (specifically O’wen J’ones / D’iane A’bbott and other repeat L’abour offenders) who need a run down on what fascism is all about, here it is from the horses mouth so to speak, in pastebin:



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    how about says:

    What next?
    Photos of alkies and damaged livers on bottles of booze?
    Pictures of fatties and cholesterol-laden hearts on cream cakes?
    Cars with graphic paint-jobs of children injured in road accidents?

  166. 166
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    Why do you see very few old people smoking? Most of those that did have long kicked the bucket.

  167. 167
    Derek Laud says:

    ‘e still likes the rough boys in that Bethnal Green sauna

  168. 168
    Incapable Vince, deputy Chief Cockroach says:


  169. 169
    Feminists are thick cunts says:

    All Milimong needs is 34% to get a slim majority.

  170. 170
    The Spineless, Clueless, Lying Bellend soon to be ex PM says:

    Maria Miller has my warmest support.

  171. 171
    Glyn H says:

    Which is fine until you remember the Prime Mentalist; it’s true that as the son of a stockbroker married to the daughter of a landowner Dave has been a disappointment but do you think the son of a hypocritical state employed Marxist who shat on the country who gave him succour and the privately educated shadow chancellor married to the daughter of a knight of the realm mandarin who together advised that vile Brown personage to do what he did offer something better…..

  172. 172
    The drip, drip of downfall says:

    Cameron won’t touch her.

    That’s why she got away with such a contemptible apology.

    She did his bidding, shoving media as far as she and Letwin could towards statutory regulation.

    They deserve each other, and will go together. Bring on 2015.

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    Analyst says:

    So, sunshine, we are getting honest
    You approve of torture, rendition and illegal wars
    You approve of CIA attacking US Congress using its usual dirty tricks
    You approve of regime change against elected President in Ukraine
    You are against the compromise Agreement signed on 21 February in Kiev
    You approve of breaching international law
    And you are islamophobe
    Fine, but never try to cite civilised standards, international law or decency here again
    You are as barbarian as the Jihadis

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    The many-worlds interpretation says:

    Maduro is actually quite a simple person who has done well (in terms of the environment he is in) despite it being part of failed system of Communism. He will not be able to develop it very far.

    Whilst MM tries to claim the martyr role for Fascism and her great-grandfather, perhaps almost understandably from a sense of nepotal piety, it is clear from her description (if we did not know already) that it is another rigid system where the whole is important and the parts are presumed to be expendable.

    The starting point of Libertarianism is with the individual. The state has to fit the individual and not the other way around (within some obvious limits) and not the other way round. Thus it is based upon a far wider and more diversified foundation than the other two systems but which also makes it harder to quantify and analyse. But its apparent unmanageableness is actually its strength which is witnessed in its recognition of the basic realities of life and total rejection of authoritarianism.

    There are no philosopher kings.

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    FIFY says:

    All Milimong needs is 34% (of the ever decreasing proportion of the electorate who can stiffle their gag reflex long enough to cast a ballot) to get a slim majority in our unrepresentative and corruptly gerrymandered House of Commons. He will then rule the country with no democratic mandate from the majority of the people to do so.

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    The Lord High Executioner says:

    Mine too

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    Where are the good MPs? says:

    Parliament needs flushing of all current MPs. Every last one of them is SCUM.

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    A Right Fucking Bastard Of A Burnley Fan says:

    Anything to keep that lying shitstain away from Turf Moor.

  179. 179
    Parasitic Bastards the lot of them says:

  180. 180
    A Right Fucking Bastard says:

    He’ll end up with Congo arse fever and regard it as a
    fucking badge of honour, the little shitweasel.

  181. 181
    Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:


  182. 182
    RomaBob... says:

    Tabs oot!

  183. 183
    rick says:

    So spake the man who introduced our present system of parliamentary “democracy” (after cutting the head off quite a good monarch).

  184. 184
    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    The above was in no way trying to present a Libertarian argument, just rather to suggest that those who follow the path of communism and incorrectly smear the fascists should take some time to check their position and see how the fascist idealist may see things.

    The Libertarian, being slightly divorced from such rigid ideological dogmas and associated baggage can take the time to objectively view both and reflect on the individuals who advocate them.

    The bigger point is more historical though: That is the great lie of the left which continuously obfuscates the crimes of Stal!n behind the mirage of the ‘fascist’ NSDAP: Two left wing systems personified by their ruthless ignorance of or concern for the individual to horrific effect.

    The fascist system inflicted comparatively fewer casualties, but is no better.

    (The writings of Brezhnev’s offspring reveals similar rose tints incidentally.)

    Both systems make the same error: They fear that what makes the state – the people – will cause its collapse.

    What they cannot admit is that their real fears are that their own self interests would be harmed by such a collapse and they will protect those at any cost in the name of the state: Either explicitly, or behind a corporate front.

    The Libertarian harbours no such fear as he knows that whilst the people wish the state to persist it will, and by not confusing self interest with state interest has the flexibility to adapt when the people decide that the status quo needs to change. That is the difference between those who are strong, and they who are weak.

    Meanwhile, there is a real problem brewing with the new EU president…

    … which shows that Europe truly has not learned anything from history.

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    LOL says:

    Fartbott discussing obesity on This Week. How are the others keeping a straight face?

  186. 186
    What about another hypocrite says:

    Is Owen travelling first class any more hypocritical than Dave cycling to parliament with a car carrying his gear behind him?

  187. 187
    Fairfax says:

    The monarch concerned had conspired to invade the country using foreign troops. But apart from that small act of treason and illegally raising taxes without Parliamentary approval, he did start the long tradiotn of the Navy being used to free slaves overseas, as well as having a cool haircut and a fairly good eye for court painters.

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    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    > You approve of torture, rendition and illegal wars
    Against those who would do us harm yes.

    As for war, see von Clausewitz on what makes a ‘just war’. Unjust is not acceptable. But then as Thucydides says:

    ‘The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.’

    > You approve of CIA attacking US Congress using its usual dirty tricks
    The C!A has not attacked Congress: If they have surveyed it is for their own reasons which will be classified.

    Placing the C!A under full political control would put the US on the same path that R’ussia is still on: A politicized secret service is not a healthy development for any state.

    > You approve of regime change against elected President in Ukraine
    Have said no such thing. The regime change was orchestrated by R’ussia.

    > You are against the compromise Agreement signed on 21 February in Kiev
    Have said no such thing.

    > You approve of breaching international law
    International law is only as good as its enforcement and the consensus to obey it. It breaks down if it is not enforced or there is no consensus to follow.

    One should ask why many states (some in Europe even) were fine to host the secret prisons which were destinations for the renditioned and reflect on who actually breached what. Seeing as so many were involved, it could be fair to say that the law itself is void.

    > And you are islamophobe
    Radical !slam is a global problem that affects us all.

    Am not fearful of !slam, so am not an !slamophobe, but firmly believe that its more extreme followers and the governments / clerics which support and enable those views need to be removed.

    > Fine, but never try to cite civilised standards, international law or decency here again
    You are in no position to impose your idea of expression on this blog: That is up to the site owner.

    > You are as barbarian as the Jihadis
    Does not make any sense: You also imputing that the J’ihadi’s are barbarian which destroys the point you are likely trying to make.

    If you regard the J’ihadi’s as being freedom fighters, then you are closer to the mark with that comparison.

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    Alice says:

    Guardian columnist Julie Bindel says live on QT that parents on Benefits *don’t have time* to help prepare their children for starting school because they’re stressed!
    WTF? Are these fucking lefty idiots from another planet? Being on Benefits is no excuse for not training kids to go to the toilet on their own, use a knife and fork, count to ten, learn the alphabet. An hour each day covers all that and more.
    When my kids started primary school at 5+ the teachers castigated us for having taught our kids to read, write and count, as it might not fit in with their scheme! (Really!)
    Now on This Week it’s excuses for not eating healthy food, for not teaching children to eat healthy foods. And nonsense about the cost of fresh food. “£3 for a turnip!” My arse! Around £1.50 for a kilo/4. Like carrots at 90p per kilo!
    When, oh when, is the message going to be that parents need to fucking buck up their ideas and take some responsibility?

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    Spartacus says:

    Jacqui Smith says the same

  191. 191
    Diana Bott says:

    “Thirty years ago I never saw anyone with anorexia”
    Of course not, Diane. Because anorexics don’t spend a lot of time in restaurants, where you’ve spent most of your life!

  192. 192
    Alice says:

    Is that a prediction for post May 2015?

  193. 193
    I saw you coming says:

    No doubt in Notting Hill, where Rachel Johnson was shopping, turnips are £3 each.

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    Spartacus says:

    hardly stealing

    if uk asked for less they would get something rather than what they get now – nothing in many cases

    i suppose you must be from the vince financial luminary cable skool of thought

  195. 195
    Anonymous says:

    Has she never heard of Karen Carpenter d.1983?

  196. 196
    Spartacus says:

    fact checked AND . . . ???

    i dont agree with nick either, but say it checked true or checked false
    – e.g. derbyshire council employment is factor of ten bigger, plus lower average salary

  197. 197
    Spartacus says:

    just go to bed

  198. 198
    Spartacus says:

    formerly from left to right german fureh, a rabi, a cleaner and an aging porn star

  199. 199
    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    Diane is suffering from anorexia, every time she sees herself in a mirror she thinks what a fat bastard!.

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    C O (Ξ7n) says:

    It is essentially stealing as avoidance is essentially evasion.

    EU tax laws allowing companies to domicile in lower jurisdiction member states whilst operating in other member states to avoid paying the higher tax rate is essentially stealing.

    L’uxembourg as a NATO member has absolutely no excuse for spending so little of its GDP on defence.

  201. 201
    Handypara says:

    Thanks for the reminder.

    He certainly had his faults yet hardly a word of Cromwell’s speech is not thoroughly applicable to our time.

    If we had a free and honest press this would fill the front pages of our newspapers this day.

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  203. 203
    Handypara says:

    Especially since Luxembourg has the highest GDP/C in Europe.
    Similarly, Germany, Belgium and Netherlands have no excuse either.

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    Anonymous says:

    Cementation was just the start of it, after that came the iceing on Mark’s cake, the Saudi BAE deal.

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    non taxable pikey says:

    Over 2 million less cigarettes sold on a yearly basis since Aus instigated the plain packages. aussie government statistics.

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    Mariamillershouldbestuckinjail says:

    Lady Cum appears to have no manifest biography despite quite old. She is a tory and was in local government for some time in Brighton. As for Sir Cyril, he is a long term quack, no delighted to get the extra money to write the report and to be able to bask in some publicity.

    All quite odd that the Tories should be pushing this manifestation of the nanny state.

  207. 207
    Anonymous says:

    and Tower Hamlets.

  208. 208
    albacore says:

    Yesterday I saw a bus marked “Immigration Enforcement”
    Now, literally, that appeared a pretty stark endorsement
    In bold print of what Parliament holds to be its main mission –
    Replacing the real British and hastening their perdition
    It sure ain’t worth deploring the dire dangers from fag packets
    While our glorious leaders favour more invasive rackets

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    Socialism is theft says:

    It will not need to because it will save all that money and far more besides from workers who do not catch all those smoking-related diseases that cost so much in health treatment and loss of productivity in the work place. It also saves a lot of heartache from relatives of smokers who die early. So what exactly is wrong with plain packaging anyway, especially if it helps even as few as a hundred children a year not take up the filthy habit?

  210. 210
    Rachel's very, very fuckable says:

    Lovely melons.

  211. 211
    Maria Miller Conservative MP for Basingstoke. Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport and M says:

    Tory cuts, 20,000 Army, 5,000 Navy, 5,000 RAF, 60,000 NHS, 16,000 Police, 730,000 Public Sector, All these will be voting in 2015

    Hear ! Hear !

  212. 212
    Village Idiot says:

    ……I did 60 years of drinking in 20, ….nearly killed me,but I enjoyed it,dry now for 27years,and,very much alive!!!

  213. 213
    Village Idiot says:

    ….Agreed,..her behaviour will stick around her like the smell of horse-piss,forever!
    ..She will always be tarnished and trashed until the day she dies!…..What a carry on!
    …..Her reputation in the gutter;..was it worth it!…Humans like her,and by god we have a lot,have no empathy or conscience,in fact it could be considered close to being a phsycopath!

  214. 214
    Mark Menzies,Moderator says:

    Its lovely having the dust from the Sahara but its the dust from Columbia I’m looking forward too.

  215. 215
    Prime Minister"The Dunce Of Downing Street" Cameron says:

    Here is something nice Sex Pistols – Satellite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wECFeRohxNk

  216. 216
    Snake says:

    Peter Hain trying to lump all politicians in alongside himself on QT.
    Whilst I have healthy contempt for the vast majority, no politican is as loathsome and hateful as that slimy rotten bastard Hain. He has blood on his hands in Northern Ireland, and serious questions to answer about the release of IRA terrorist suspects.

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    DAVE EAT'N HEAD says:

    Stop complaining and get back to your minimum wage jobs plebs and do some extra hours , so us rich chaps can help ourselves to more your tax money what !

  218. 218
    Village Idiot says:

    ….What about the air pollution,how do we give that up??

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    give £3/month for ummm...Cheers easy... says:

    How many cats/kittens have been disposed of by muckwits after the TB from my cat billocks?

    We know that it’s immigration that’s brought it back to us…

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    Fred the pensioner says:

    I’ve had my left handed screwdr*ver for over 50 years and it still works treat.

  221. 221
    Mark Menzies,Moderator says:

    David Dimbleby has just announced an ALL MALE panel on Any Questions tonight on BBC.And your point is,Owen Jones ?

  222. 222
    Tourist says:

    Ave Maria!

    Or as we say in Haifa Oy Vay Maria, who’s minding the shop?

  223. 223
    The geezer who couldn't score a victory against an open goal says:

    I have every confidence that the Common People will vote for me at the next Election! – and in overwhelming numbers!

  224. 224
    Fred the pensioner says:

    Clearly somebody who was dropped on her head in childhood.

    Being outrageously moderate, I think we need a separate gulag for all these blasted do-gooders of whatever stripe. Why can’t they just let people go the hell in their own personal handcarts without all this interfering nannying? Most folk who have reached my advanced age have managed perfectly well on our own without their ‘help’.

  225. 225
    Fred the pensioner says:

    But why is nothing on the telly about all these on-going riots and disturbances happening all over Europe? What is it that the tellvbods are trying to hide from us/discourage us from emulating?

  226. 226
    Fred the pensioner says:

    … and flan and blancmange don’t seem to quite fit either.

  227. 227
    Fred the pensioner says:

    You forgot about the bumsex bit for which she was directly responsible. That must be the Tory definition of the ‘Culture’ bit of her portfolio I suppose.

  228. 228
    Fred the pensioner says:

    Podi, just think of all the money you have saved since you gave up. I gave up in 1967 – and have travelled the world since on the proceeds. Burning money doesn’t even begin to describe the stupidity of setting fire to dried leaves and sucking in the smoke they emit.

  229. 229
    Fred the pensioner says:

    Same way as all the others. Nothing to see here, move along please.

  230. 230
    Nun Whatsoever... says:

    Remember girls, no press ups on the cucumber ledge after 9pm.

  231. 231
    Fred the pensioner says:

    We used to have them back when…. We called them [usually silver coloured] cigarette cases, which did not make an unsightly bulge in a suit pocket. First thing we did after buying a packet was to unload the cigs into the case and ditch the box.

    PS: Can somebody send this cummerbund woman on a course to a tobacco farm in Zimbabwe for a few years?

  232. 232
    Pentonville screw says:

    … when you complete your term in the Scrubs…

  233. 233
    Fred the pensioner says:

    She got stuck on that Magic Roundabout machine when she was a kid. The swirling addled her brain and she has never quite recovered.

    Booiiing, time for bed.

  234. 234
    Tom Catesby. says:

    People wil have noticed the attack on drinking particularly social drinking in pubs etc, is well under way. Another perfectly legal, traditional, social experience is being steadily destroyed by taxation and other rising costs to the drinker, propaganda from the health fanatics and the steady closer of hundreds of pubs every month. At least as far as government and politicians are concerned, it has the benefit of stopping members of the community meeting together.

  235. 235
    Fred the pensioner says:

    So nothing new there then. I cannot recall the last time any government had an actual majority.

  236. 236
    Tom Catesby. says:

    Have Markie’s chums from the failed coup in the Ivory Coast (?) caught up with him yet?

  237. 237
    Fred the pensioner says:

    * as indicated by the number of individual votes earned as opposed to the usual government by minority

  238. 238
    Tom Catesby. says:

    Not stupid, certainly not that, hypocrite yes.

  239. 239
    how about says:

    Hands up anyone who voted for any of these people…

  240. 240
    Tom Catesby. says:

    All very commendable, but the above remarks pre-suppose the likes of Millar/Miller have consciences to bother in the first place. I think not. The likes of her and others in politics, banking, the city and other high profile walks of ‘public life’, appear to be possessed of a mental derangement, formed of, self interest, entitlement and arrogance. This is supported by the knowledge, that for the likes of them there are, no real and lasting consequences.

  241. 241
    Aussie Triads says:

    We have sold over 50 million even plainer packages in the same period. Thank you.

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