March 27th, 2014

Media Bitch Fight Farage / Clegg Special: Kirkup v Oborne

The Telegraph’s James Kirkup hasn’t been very impressed with the profundity of the punditry following last night’s debate. He’s gone off on one this afternoon:

“A lot of stuff being written about the Clegg-Farage debate today could come from the Idiot’s Guide to Being a Political Commentator. It follows the same paint-by-numbers form.

Step One: Pronounce that everyone less clever than you is saying the same thing.

Step Two: Say that they are wrong because actually the opposite thing is true. You know this because you are clever and incisive and other people do not because they are stupid and out-of-touch.

Step Three: There is no Step Three. That’s all there is to it. Really, you can make a very nice living out of this.”

Which of Kirkup’s fellow Telegraph writers followed a very, very similar step by step approach in his own write up? Here’s Peter Oborne:

“British political journalists love to pretend that they are independent and objective, but the majority are nothing of the sort. In Britain we have a system of client journalism, with reporting a manifestation of political class dominance.

Last night’s debate between Nigel Farage and Nick Clegg was a very good example of this phenomenon. The lobby wanted a Clegg win and… collectively called victory for Clegg the moment that the debate was over.

It was only when the YouGov poll came through showing that Farage had won the debate hands-down with the public that lobby journalists were forced into an abrupt U-turn.”

Who could Kirkup possibly have been talking about?



  1. 1
    rank outsider says:

    I am as powerfull as a journalist


  2. 2
    Streatham Perv SITREP says:


    • 4
      CTV says:

      Have you checked for yourself Chuka that the Camera can not be rotated inside its housing? That’s what the do do.


    • 12
      C.O.Jones says:

      So Chukka wants to take responsibility for security in this area of SLC. Next time some kid gets beaten to a pulp in this area – it’s his fault. Idiot. There is a reason for security cameras and the secret lies in the word “security”.


    • 19
      Anonymous says:

      So what’s its purpose?


    • 35
      M­a­­q­bo­­ul says:

      And tonight the good folk of Streatham shall sleep soundly in their beds. Thank you Papa Umunna, thank you, thank you and thank you.


  3. 3
    Wnnabe pundit says:

    They should both go to Sark, calm down

    And await instructions


  4. 5
    We the People says:

    The pundits can’t accept the People’s verdict

    They are all just growths on the arsehole of offshore corporate interests

    Fire them all

    We do not need them


  5. 6
    Head smacker says:

    Someone has clearly been using a 7% solution.


  6. 7
    Oxford PPE Tutor says:

    What happened to objective professional journalism in England?

    Can’t we have a little calm analysis instead of these childish bitchfights?


    • 16
      oh dear says:

      Journalism has been hijacked by smarmy left-wing
      posh kids who wouldn’t know how to dig out a story
      if their lives depended on it.


    • 26
      Blowing Whistles says:

      umm … WHAT … objective professional journalism do you imply?


      • 48
        Only chavs shop at Tesco says:

        How can you have objective, professional journalism when almost everyone has gone through years of “progressive” educayshun followed by a Ren and Stimpy degree? Seriously.


  7. 8
    UKIP FOR ME says:

    There was foul play because Farage was allowed to speak and he made Cleggy look a total twat and the establishment cannot allow such things to happen


    • 44
      Village Idiot says:

      …..”Wasn,t it glorious,a sight to behold,better than ,”A russet mantle clad morn”….Hopefully,the movers and shakers will remove the scales from their eyes!


  8. 10
    ordinary member of the public says:

    Last nights debate illustrated how out of touch the
    Westminster elite of politicians and lobby journalists
    really is.
    The audience asked far more incisive and probing questions
    than the likes of Paxman manages nowadays.
    While biased BBC hacks like Norman Smith laughably
    declared it a draw just before the official YouGov poll proved
    what us plebs already knew-Farage was the clear winner.
    And for Cameron and Miliband to claim they wouldn’t bother
    watching the debate is just insulting to voters who care deeply
    about this issue.
    Wake up Westminster-we’re fed up with being patronised and ignored.


  9. 11
    Trying times ahead says:

    Farage won last night , he took Clegg apart, that is my opinion and when it comes next month to vote in the EUSSR vote, I will be using my opinion and voting UKIP, in 2015 I will vote UKIP, the rest of the crap in the media liars pages can say what they like, my opinion, my vote.


    • 18
      C.O.Jones says:

      That makes two of us. Main stream politics have not been doing the task of running the country for the benefit of the people. They have let the people down.


  10. 13
    Hugh Janus says:

    I think your average cockroach would be deeply offended to be likened to the leader of the limp dumbs.

    On another point, I am fed up with the opinions of various media types like that shallow prat Norman ‘Clever-Dick’ Smith. He’s a complete pain in the arse and we just don’t need his endless ‘takes’ on anything. He, like most of his contemporaries, is a complete – but expensive – irrelevance.


  11. 14
    dame Diane says:

    It’s not just the BBC who are biased – even the journos at SKY are lefties – that Boulton guy wants shooting.


  12. 15
    Blowing Whistles says:

    I do not think Peter Oborne is right all the time.

    Also I am not Blowing Whistles.


    • 28
      Blowing Whistles says:

      That’s for sure you pathetic troll – btw you have about 3 years of back reading of W’s comments to catch up on – if you think you’re ard enough – twat.

      But hey – your obsessive nicking of i’s moniker – is flattering to i – but do try and get some facts right. [Clue – i is known to hate cleggy plenty]


    • 39
      Whistles says:

      Oh, please do.


  13. 17
    Fuck the BBC says:


    • 30
      broderick crawford says:

      well this is all a gargantuan waste of tine and money anyway as they can send as many letters and vans around as they like . If the resident refuses entry they can do nothing until they get an entry warrant or issue a court summons all if which are only done in extremis on a cost /benefit calculation .

      a bit like the CPS deciding whether a person charged should be prosecuted based on the ” public interest” i e whether they think their chances of obtaining a conviction will make the whole thing worth the effort .


  14. 20
    dave says:

    In defence of Oborne, on this occasion he is spot-on.


  15. 21
    He's one of ours says:

    The Lobby was also outraged when Farage said the EU has blood on its hands.

    Likewise they as a collective have gone along with the political establishment that the violent overthrow of a democratically leader is OK, as his replacement is on the side of the EU, America and the banks.


  16. 25
    Anonymous says:

    Quentin Letts and Dan Hodges have been absolutely hammered in their comments about last night just part of the establishment that people now despise.


    • 41
      A patsy says:

      Letts has disappeared up his own arse recently what with his appearances on Brillo’s late night show.
      He’s lost the faith, just as Cameron did when he reneged on his Lisbon guarantee.


      • 47
        Village Idiot says:

        ….Rightly or wrongly,i used to hold “Letts” in high regard,not so sure now!…Has he been got at,or is he or a family member in receipt of money from the EU?


  17. 29
    Anonymous says:

    Many a journo’s political reputation took a dive last night.They made themselves look cheap,shallow and laughable.


  18. 38
    Eric Edmond says:

    The lobby is client journalism in spades. These journos are in the politicos pocket


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