March 26th, 2014

Yougov/Sun: Farage 57% – 36% Clegg


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  1. 1
    Gilbert Fiddler says:

    Had to be, Cleggy the eternal bureacrat, Farage the bloke to stop that!

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  2. 2
    Anonymous says:

    no surprise there then

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      There is no need to debate says:

      Leave The EU. In law, all directives, laws, ruling. you name it, are considered by Whitehall (or equivalent body) etc for their general good, or not, or modification, and presented to Parliament to vote on individually. That way we get the best bits, our points are observed, and what we don’t like is not inplemented and does not require agreement. To boot we save far more than Maggie ever achieved. Oh and the MPs have to do some work.

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    Anonymous says:

    Nigel was outstanding and spoke for the british people, Clegg is just a rampant Europhile

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      Blowing Whistles says:

      He could sure get rampant on my eurotunnel.

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      Officer Dibble says:

      Clegg was like an actor, just trotting out a well-rehearsed speech. A couple of times, he was so lost in his “script” he went off at a tangent avoiding the issue entirely. More like a party political broadcast for Clegg at some times; Ferrari should have reigned him in.

      Farage was pithy and to the point, a breath of fresh air.

      Farage was right, Clegg (and Cameron and Millibrain) are career politicians isolated from reality in their own political bubble.

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        still walking into darkness says:

        You could tell Clegg lost it when he went into the climate change routine, idiot. And then he went on about bumsex, what’s that got to do with the EU in or out argument.
        And brilliant from Farage to pinpoint the Ukraine violence on the EU. It was actually the EU/IMF takeover of Ukraine that sparked it all, but you won’t see that on the BBC.

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        • 166
          Finbar Saunders says:

          what’s bumsex got to do with in or out…

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          • jgm2 says:

            Yeah. Fnaaar. But the bumsex thing is actually the UK getting its retaliation in first. They know the EU will shortly be making bumsex marriage legal throughout the union so, rather than being seen to be ordered to do such a thing by Europe thus raising people’s hackles they’re doing it as if it was an idea they came up with themselves. Same for the smoking b*an.

            Ireland rushing to legalise it before it became EU law. Then Fucking Scotland rushing to legalise it so they could claim they were ‘leading the way’ over the Fucking Sassenachs.

            All of them trying to kid on it was their fucking idea.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Of course, none of them manages to hit the G spot…

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    • 214
      Anonymous says:

      Nigel is a fecking bore.

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  4. 4
    BBC Verdict says:

    Farage 0% Clegg 320%.

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    • 111

      Yes that’ll be the Beeb … after all they’ll have had the Lib Dem post debate briefing notes to match the automaton performance of distorted factoids Cleggy delivered.

      The Ford quote was his worse and most crass one.

      The attempt to tell people only 7% of our laws come from the EU was his most blatant attempt to bury the truth.

      Calling the EU a super power was his worse Freudian slip.

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      • 148
        Spartacus says:

        sky was no better at 200 pct.

        some tart and a bum boy agreeing with each other that clegg was uk’s answer to the orbmassiah and both pro all thing homosexual

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        • 161
          Calling out call me Dave says:

          Farage could have dealt with the gay marriage question better. Instead of expressing an opinion he simply needs to say that it is up to the British people to decide on this matter not Europe and certainly not a bunch of politicians who do not even mention it in their manifesto.

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      • 182
        thostids says:

        It was more telling when Clegg suggested that people should read the small print on his flyer for a referendum. Definitely had a script and couldn’t stick to it. Clegg was definitely Mankie. Reeked of panic and old spice . No back-bone,.

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        bb says:

        Clegg used classic politician language there: ‘7% of laws passed by parliament’. Well, what about secondary legislation, directly applicable EU directives, ECJ rulings, other court interpretations, etc? In short, he’s as honest as a nine bob note.

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    • 153
      carlo gambino says:

      Norman Smith of the BBC thought it ‘about even’.

      Laughing stock.

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    • 219
      Anonymous says:

      Im with the Beeb on this one i must admit.

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  5. 5
    Sue Denim says:

    Better – not best!

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    John says:

    WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT NICK FERARRI WAS A GUTLESS LIBERAL?

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      No need to shout. Ferrari gave Clegg a very easy time over the student fees issue. At least Farage attempted to answer the question about his personal life, even if the answer was sick-making.

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      • 68
        Anonymous says:

        But what the fuck was that to do with the EU for either of them?

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      • 93
        God's holy trousers says:

        It struck me that clogg evaded every question. When asked about deportation he started wanking on about extradition. When challenged on trade he claimed that the EU got better deals as it was one big block. He then contradicted himself and said if Britain left the EU we would have to make 27 individual trade deals. So which one is it Nick? He was hopeless, and all the media could focus on was that he was less sweaty than Farage.

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        • 168
          To be fair says:

          To be fair those television images from the Nixon Kennedy debate which every journo saw at college is probably about he only thing these useless fuckers can remember since they spent most of that time pissed out their nuts.

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        • 251
          Blowing Whistles says:

          Look at the quality of journos now. They are incapable of following an argument. Most could not follow a shopping list.

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    • 213
      Common tater says:

      He’s got quite a gut following too many Liberal Helpings

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    Final Scoreline says:

    YouGov poll found 57 per cent thought Nigel Farage won, while 36 per cent thought Nick Clegg performed best.
    They said it was a “pretty clear victory for Nigel Farage.”
    Conservative supporters went 3:1 for Farage, Labour 42 per cent Farage and 51 per cent for Clegg.

    One in five Liberal Democrat supporters said they thought Farage did better.

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    • 43
      Socialism Ate My Future says:

      Yet the Telegraph and others think it was a draw!

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    • 162
      Officer Dibble says:

      What did Cleggy say about EAW – something about trusting the Police?

      Would they be the lying Hillsborough Police, the lying “plebgate” Police, the Police who said they had “no contact” with Ian Tomlinson, the Police who said Jean Charles De Menezes jumped over a barrier, or the Police who put Stephen Lawrence’s family under surveillance?

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        The Chief of police with the made up cap badge ! says:

        No I think he was referring to a Chief Constable who has never investigated or reported a crime for years and will certainly not had experience of the European arrest warrant at grass roots level yet feels qualified to praise it.

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      • 300
        The view from Transylvania says:

        Actually, the EAW is one very nasty piece of work. Under its terms any copper anywhere in Europe can issue one and the named person HAS to be handed over – no evidence needed, no pre-departure hearing etc.

        It is like a half-pissed Romanian police corporal in the backwoods in outer Transylvania issuing an EAW for, say, the Governor of the Bank of England and under the rules, he has to be put on the next plane out. It has absolutely fuck all to do with extradition which is a completely different kettle of smelly fish. Nige was dead right to castigate it and if any of our so-called politicians had had any balls they would have ignored the Directive to bring it into our law.

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    thostids says:

    Seeing that Clegg didn’t make any attempt to answer the questions, was evasive, actively misleading in many statistics e.g. EU only creates 7% of our legislation; not when compared per annum home created v EU. Clegg couldn’t answer the questions actually posed so he trotted out the old myths eg 3 million jobs would go if we came out, to ignoring our extradition Treaties as were. Farage an honest winner!

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      Harriet Harperson says:

      And Pants-on-Fire EU battyboy plus proven liar Sorry Clegg kept calling Farage a liar, the clonelike little weasel.

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      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      The 7% bit was Clegg mixing it up with the Lib Dem poll rating :-)

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  9. 9
    Tony Blair is a war criminal says:

    The BBC will simply ignore the Yougov poll and report what the Guardian tells them.

    Clegg walked it.

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    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK SON OF COD AND CODFATHER OF SOLE says:

    I cannot believe how much is being made of Farage employing his wife
    Most of these fuckers employ their wives (the few that are straight) or their boyfriends , children , gay lovers “special friends”
    Fuck me look at the Kinnocks him , his wife , their children , even the family dog has an office in Brussels

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  11. 11
    Johnny Norfolk says:

    How 36% can believe Clegg. he is just a smooth talking salesman who talks a lot and says nothing.

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    • 20
      Bluto says:

      Same percentage of lefty scum, EU/non job rent seekers and client “victims” who support Labour. In the left’s pecking order even those who hate Clegg would support him against Farage.

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      Anonymous says:

      Deeply dismaying I agree.

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        The view from Transylvania says:

        The very obvious elephant in the room was that 95% of the audience had not the first idea of what this debate was supposed to be all about. You could tell that from all the misplaced clapping. Was somebody operating a little switch somewhere? When the red light comes on you boo; when the green light comes on you clap. I am sure that’s what they do for QT audiences.

        I once went to a live recording of a BBC radio ‘comedy’ show in their Regent Street studio. There was some bloke at the front directing the audience on what reaction was required for the background sound effects.

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  12. 12
    Bluto says:

    Go to it Nigel. Britain needs you.

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  13. 13
    jamesyboy says:

    They both made me boak – roll on Scottish independence and we leave old England to fight out the in out hokey cokey

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  14. 14
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK SON OF COD AND CODFATHER OF SOLE says:

    Why is Guido not in the LBC studio ?
    him mate Tory Bear is

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    The public leaves the bullshitters behind. says:

    Shows how out of touch the taking heads in the ‘spin room’ bubble were with the rest of the British public.
    Maybe a lesson for them that speaking amongst themselves all the time leaves them out of touch with reality on the ground.

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    Officer Crabtree says:

    Clegg avoided answering the questions and spouted nothing but ill-defined flannel. He does not care about us and simply wants to lecture us on what is in our best interest.

    I loathe him and his ilk…which is a great man in politics and the wider powers that be.

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    • 302
      The view from Transylvania says:

      Stupid cvnt has his 80k EU pension to protect – plus he is a bloody foreigner and should not be in our Parliament anyway. Anyone know a friendly copper in Greece who can issue an EAW for him?

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      • 329
        Column No. 5 says:

        If both parents of MPs were required to be natural born citizens, we could be rid of both Clegg and Milliband, not to mention Diane Abbott.

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    Jasmin Buckett says:

    Honestly never been so angry at anything other than when I saw that poll . Actually just cried. I want every producer at YouGov dead.

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  18. 21
    Lord Owen Jones of The Cottage says:

    Cliche of the night to Farage: “I don’t agree with Nick”.

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    Tony Blair is a war criminal says:

    The biggest lie peddled about the EU is that it sets standards. No it’s doesn’t. Standards for products, chemicals etc. are set by international bodies that we the UK have been a part of for decades. All the EU does it it decides to adopt an existing standard so that then member states also have to use it as does anyone importing into the EU.

    The idea that leaving the EU would increase costs in this area is just a lie. Most standards are now international, even where there are variations the general requirements are very similar.

    Take cars, if you look at cars sold in the USA or Japan or say Australia, they all look similar these days, light sizes, bumper positions, crash resistance. None of that is to do with the EU.

    If I want to sell a combine harvester to a French farmer, why the fuck should I need to comply with French employment law in a British factory?

    It’s also a load of nonsense to think if we left the EU we’d lose jobs here, does Clegg think the Germans wouldn’t still want to flog their shit cars here or the Spanish and French fish in our waters?

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    • 73
      Anonymous says:

      Why do they always make out we are totally reliant on foreign investment. Do they think we are so incapable that we’re unable to survive without them.? It’s not so long ago that we were at the forefront of innovation and had our own world leading industries (still do in certain areas).

      last thing we want to be aiming for is to be a reassembly sweat shop for foreign multinationals!

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      • 90
        Tony Blair is a war criminal says:

        We happily trade with the USA, China, Russia etc. without being forced to comply with their employment laws.

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    • 186
      Victoria Nuland says:

      Fuck the EU

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  20. 24
    ANON says:

    When Nigel speaking all Nick did was drink his water and never faced Nigel.

    What a loser he is.
    :( :( :( :( :( :(

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    • 126

      Clegg was just stuck on his factoid list. Also you notice the dirty trick Clegg pulled to imply Farage was telling porkies over the Greek extradition. He made it sound like he was saying he was lying without actually saying it.

      Dirty nasty Nick. He doesn’t believe Britain can be a nation and he’ll use any unpleasant trick to keep us enslaved to his beloved( and no doubt future employer) EU.

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  21. 26
    Square Eyes says:

    Camera shy Guido?

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    Max says:

    Interesting to see who was allowed the most time, I thought Ferrari allowed glegg more time and allowed him to ramble on. Farage let him get on with it. Are they liberal biased at lbc

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    • 37
      Tony Blair is a war criminal says:

      Ferrari big mate of Clegg.

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    • 58
      Ex-Labour says:

      EU-sinecure-in-waiting Clegg had higher microphone-volume. Farrage’s level was down and/or greater proximity-effect added by reducing bass eq.

      But still the worm showed his essential slither.

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      • 76
        Max says:

        Good job for guido to go through the broadcast and do the timings, see who got the most time, if glegg got a good few minutes more it looks bad for lbc and Lamborghini

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    • 74
      Anonymous says:

      My guess is that on radio Cleggy’s constant interruptions came across much worse.

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        (That's enough Eds, Ed!) says:

        True dat!

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          Funambulist says:

          R4 News at 10 last night played a clip where it sounded like an excitable Nigel was constantly interrupting a cool and infinitely patient Clegg. BBC editors must have gone through the material with a fine tooth comb to find that bit!

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  23. 29
    Paddy Power says:

    UKIP cut from 6/4 to 11/10 to win most votes at the Euro elections.

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      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      Winning the Euro elections is not enough for UKIP, as the only Anti-EU party they have to get more votes than the pro-EU LibLabCon combined if they are to prove that the majority of voters support their position on Europe.

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    • 47
      BetNed says:

      Libdems 1/100 to lose all seats in EU elections.

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      • 279
        The Great British Public fed up with being swamped by unwanted multi culteral diversity says:

        Great News the wipe out for Leb Dims in EUSSR electons

        1 down 2 to go………..

        More bog rolls for CMDD & Millietrip

        as they are shuved ever closer to there total political demise……

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  24. 32
    Hope ,no hope says:

    They are still going on the Farage was swaty, I bet Clegg was dying for a piss from all that water he drank.

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  25. 34
    Anne says:

    Definitely Farage did best. A very convincing assembling of statistical, verifiable facts at various points in the discussion. Excellent.

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  26. 36
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Why did P au l Stai nes just run out of Sky camera shot?

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  27. 39
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK SON OF COD AND CODFATHER OF SOLE says:

    FFS they have just put up a list of tweets from GlibDumbs every one identicle
    I agree with Nick Britain is better off in Europe
    Talk about towing the party line

    Tweets for Nigel 1301
    For clegg 557

    Slaughtered !

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  28. 40
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    No winners, nothing new, same old spin from both.

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  29. 41
    lost in the Daily Telegraph says:

    So the result is a foregone conclusion.

    Have the Bookies pulled down the shutters ?

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  30. 42
    Silly Billy says:

    LBC asking Libcraps how it went from some pub, answers on a postcard to Iain Dale LBC

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  31. 44
    Tony Blair is a war criminal says:

    You watch how pro EU/Left wing the audience is when the BBC do it.

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    • 55
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      Now we know the BBC is in receipt of EU money they should not be allowed to host any election debates.

      It should be shown on ITV instead.

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  32. 48
    The public leaves the bullshitters behind. says:

    I suppose we’ll still have the jealous of Farage bloggers like Edmond, autonomous mind and EU referendum doing their level best to rip UKIP apart for what Farage may or may not have said….but despite all, it’s Farage who delivered the debate victory, not them.
    He’s done a good job.

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  33. 49
    Timmy2much says:

    Clegg is just rude. Always talking over Farage. Nick Cheep Cheep Cheep Clegg

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    • 65
      Harriet Harperson says:

      Didn’t he drop his list of Special Facts at one point?

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        The view from Transylvania says:

        Well he certainly avoided answering the direct question about tuition fees. No doubt the students in Sheffield noted that.

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  34. 50
    Mike Newland says:

    I’m looking for a PR job.

    If a job offer comes from Libs I say Clegg won. If UKIP I say Farage won. If Tories I say both useless. If Labour I say Clegg won on Europe but nothing else.

    I know the post-debate game recruiters.

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  35. 52
    Mummy Bear says:

    Bumboys in France are now openly going around demanding they are given babies to bring up.

    Where will this madness and depravity end ?

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  36. 53
    Bollocks Broadcasting Corporation says:

    Our internal poll scored it 95 to 5 for Clegg.

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    • 83
      Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

      How many ‘don’t knows’ amongst that number ?

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        Spartacus says:

        bbc regrets no homosexual presenter and audience had

        – no black slaves
        – no unmarried mother benefits scroungers
        – no paid hecklers of anything non establishment

        hence a win for the lost deposit party

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  37. 54
    Tony Blair is a war criminal says:

    Ha ha ha what a shock. Norman Smith on the BBC said that neither won the debate, despite the poll.

    You can bet if the poll had gone in favour of Clegg Smith would have agreed.

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  38. 56

    Anyone else notice the flaw in Clegg’s employment argument? Every foreign national employed in the UK on in-work benefits and paying tax means one more Brit out of work on unemployed benefits and not paying tax. So effectively the foreign national costs the taxpayer twice as much as a national in the same job. 1 +1 = 3. Left wing maths.

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    • 61
      Harriet Harperson says:

      The other 1 is probably racist so doesn’t count.

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    • 80
      The BBC says:

      No that’s not true. We’ve worked out that it’s only 1 in 10 out of work as a result of immigration. For no other reason than we say so.

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        The view from Transylvania says:

        The other point Cloggy studiously avoided in his barrage of figures was that 1.5 million Brits work in the EU, so we should allow the entire EU to come here. But those 1.5 Brits are spread across 26 other countries; they are not all jam-packed like sardines in a Lille suburb.

        … and they WORK and are not reliant on other governments to keep them in fags and booze.

        Clegg must go; he and his bunch of Libdum loonies are causing great damage to this once fair isle.

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  39. 57
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Ferrari was the best by a mile.

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    Perverse pollster company says:

    Clegg Won

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    • 66
      Silly Billy says:

      Of course he did the bBBC will tell us on their 24hour news for the next 48 hours plus all their advertising for then next debate

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    • 67
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      …the Wooden spoon :-)

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  41. 62
    Silly Billy says:

    Got to admit, LBC were onto a winner when they did this debate, nobody will care when the bBBC has one as the the PR on this one will make the next debate not worth watching, the damage has been done

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  42. 63
    Nick Clegg says:

    I don’t agree with Nick.

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  43. 70
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    I can see you moderator twat.

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  44. 71
    Lord Owen Jones of The Cottage says:

    New Labour bursting in to the Tory lobby to leave the children of the poorest in Britain hungry today was a truly gruesome sight

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    • 77
      Podiceps says:

      Labour is always a gruesome sight.

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    • 84
      Pint please says:

      Perhaps we could see a proper analysis of the food bank customers, you know, cigs, booze, drugs, SUVs, fecklessness etc. or just… Get a Job.

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    • 140
      Mr Nobody says:

      Labour don’t do aspiration, they only talk of misery. Talk of food banks alienates most people.

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    • 154
      jgm2 says:

      It was better than that. While Labour went along with the Tory initiative (because, no doubt, their internal polling tells them that even Labour voters have no appetite for a bottomless pit of free money to the White Dees) the headline will still be that there were 22 Labour rebels who thought there should be a bottomless pit.

      Lose:lose for Ned yet again.

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      • 164
        Anonymous says:

        Do you really believe in the LibLabCon charade?

        You are a divide and conquer shill/troll

        How sad.

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  45. 78
    Pint please says:

    Nigel did fine until it got to women problems. Still, perspiration suggests he was working unlike the aloof Clegg who Came over as de Gaulle would have done.

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      The view from Transylvania says:

      Yes, but WTF has who Nigel employs got to do about whether the UK should remain in the EU?

      Fucking red herring from the ‘moderator’?

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  46. 81
    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:

    When can I get aboard the EU Gravy Train ?

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  47. 85
    joanna Phillips says:

    It is clear that the EU needs us more than we need it . Lets get out of this club as soon as possible

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  48. 87
    the tooth fairy says:

    Kay Burley thought it was about 50/50 ffs.

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      The view from Transylvania says:

      Not long ago the BBC had a deliberate policy of ‘retiring’ aging female presenters -eg Angela Rippon and that Woman what Winks. Not good for the image and all that.

      Time Sky took a leaf out of the BBC book.

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  49. 88
    Anonymous says:

    Fact of the matter is, Clegg doesnt care, when he loses next year, he’ll go off into a cushy little EU job that will be secured for him from his EU mates.

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  50. 89
    Pint please says:

    Is the next round just going to be the same but without kuala Kay.

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  51. 91
    Well he would say that wouldn't he says:

    Danny Alexander’s comment on debate: I thought that Nick made his argument incredibly clearly and passionately. I thought he was the clear winner of the debate. He was the statesman setting out why Britain is better off in the EU.

    I think a lot of people watching Nigel Farage, maybe before they thought he was a guy you’d want to go down the pub with but by the end he was more like the pub bore you don’t want to be stuck in the corner with at the end of the evening.

    I don’t know about the poll, but watching the debate the big winners are the British public who have heard both sides of the debate. I think the majority of the people want to stay in the EU.

    I’m not going to comment on the poll … But no-one else is standing up for Europe in British politics like the Lib Dems are doing. The public interest in the debate shows there is a big thirst to hear the arguments.

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    • 100
      Cressida's Dick says:

      PMSL

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        Anon 1 says:

        ..Seriously deluded and a brain so washed it is of use to no one in Britain,go for goodness sake,to your beloved EU,along with your delusions and hatred of this once Great Isle!….(for 88)

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      HenryV says:

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      Neocon is a stupid word. says:

      Europe is a superb land mass of different cultures and heritages full of great people we are friends with.
      Europe doesn’t need parasitical and self serving non entities such as Clegg to “stand up for it”.
      That’s laughable.
      Put your EuroSpeak dictionary down and talk sense.

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    Cressida's Dick says:

    So. Before the debate Sky made a big thing about a Yougov poll which would be released immediately afterwards. Problem was Peter Kellner (head of Yougov), married to Labour’s Cathy (baroness) Ashton, (the EU foreign affairs spokesman who you wouldn’t want to kiss if she was your mother) had to front up the result.

    Farage 57% Clegg 34%.

    Oh dear Peter, not the result you wanted.

    And will never, ever, trust Sky again. We need a Fox UK for balance.

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  53. 99
    Lord Owen Jones of The Cottage says:

    The telegraph has Nigel winning the debate at 78% …. Dave are you going to share a platform? Brave enough to take us on?

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  54. 103
    Anonymous says:

    )ne for the Sun…………………..”Oh Calamity”

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  55. 105
    Anonymous says:

    Bearing in mind Cleggs euro pension pot I suppose he at least had to try didn’t he?

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    Lying bastards says:

    Clegg spoke shite and repeated lie afte lie. Ie the utter nonsense about how jobs and trade depend on our membership of the EUSSR or how without the European arrest warrant criminals could not be brought to book. Question for Hugh Orde, have you Sir ever actually invesigated a case where you applied for one ? If you had you would know how incredibily restrictive it is. Clegg made great claims about those plane spotters and how thesedays that could never happen. This is of course bollox as these states do whatever they want to do as evidenced by the fact that despite being in the same EUSSR a British citizen can STILL find themselves banged up in a spanish jail or months without charge.

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  57. 107
    Anonymous says:

    Heseltine advised Clegg against doing it.He was right.

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  58. 109
    fat chav says:

    Well at least sly news reporting was unbiased, two foreigners one liberal and an ex copper!

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  59. 110
    Caldicot role of shame says:

    Nick Clegg came across to me as someone who attended a School which was institutionally pa********c and stffed full of child a*****s from the Head down.

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  60. 112
    Curious says:

    Dan Hodges; “Tonight we saw the worst of Nigel Farage and the best of Nick Clegg”

    Well if that was the worst of Nigel Farage and the best of Nick Clegg, how stellar will Nigel be when he improves and how crap will Nick be if he gets worse?

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    • 127
      Anon. says:

      Hodges is a worried man.

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  61. 115
    Mr Nobody says:

    Farage edged it on points, but no knockout. Wouldn’t vote for either man after this debate.

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    • 123
      Sad says:

      Then you are an indecisive fuckwit

      Like

      • 131
        Mr Nobody says:

        Indecisive in what way? I came down on Farage’s side of the fence because he won, but there wasn’t much in it. Round two should be interesting.

        There is no need for abuse either. I started out as neutral and am yet to be convinced. I suspect your mind was made up before the debate, am I correct?

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    • 151
      Trying times ahead says:

      Your’e opinion would have been useful if after the debate you stated I might have voted for one of these people, as you didn’t who cares.

      Like

      • 173
        Mr Nobody says:

        Still another debate to come, but at this stage the Tory “fudge” looks like the least worst option, yet CMD wasn’t even there. If that sounds crap it probably is.

        I dunno. More heat than light tonight and I’m late for an appointment with a couple of bottles of wine. Cheers!

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    • 206
      Dave Cameron says:

      Don’t worry. You are never going to get a vote on this.

      Like

      • 235
        BBC red bottom says:

        Exactly. Because we will ensure Miliband is PM and he has already promised no votes on Europe.

        Like

  62. 118
    Blowing Whistles says:

    IMPOSTER

    Like

    • 132
      JJ12 says:

      Why do you feel the need to post your points under the same moniker?

      If you wish to make a valid point, post it under an anonymous moniker.

      That way, you can avoid the ad hominem smear, as demonstrated above.

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  63. 120
    Blowing Whistles says:

    i handed over to the IMPOSTER a few mins ago on the last blog and have had a quick scoot through this blog and note he’s already at it – that is it from i tonight.

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  64. 121
    Nick Clogg says:

    I won that.

    Like

    • 259
      Dr Bob says:

      Of course you did Nick you’re always right all of the time, now take these tablets and go to bed.

      Like

  65. 125
    The Wild Colonial Boy says:

    Why wasn’t Bus Pass Elvis allowed to participate?

    Like

    • 135
      Mr Nobody says:

      Because he was sitting next to Ed Miliband on the ‘bus and ended up dozing off. Consequently he missed his stop.

      Like

  66. 128
  67. 129
    Lord Bumwatch says:

    Clearly all sensible people would say Clegg won?

    Like

  68. 136
    Taxpayer says:

    I thought Nigel won as well

    Trouble is, he is a one trick poney and will win a couple of Westminster seats at best

    A wet fart

    Like

    • 145
      Palace of thieves says:

      Even a few seats will send shockwaves through the Westminster elite.

      Like

    • 160
      Trying times ahead says:

      Not a wet fart, he has a good chance if he can break down the tribal crowd, the deadbeats, the NuCons, the PR did him well tonight lets see how May goes.

      Like

    • 184
      British Voter says:

      He’s supposed to be a one trick pony. His job is to get us out of Europe. Once we are out of Europe, he will not be hanging around as a dictator. Which sort of endears him to me.

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      • 190
        jgm2 says:

        Yeah. Right. That’s the fatty Salmond story too.

        As if, apart from bronze statues all over Fucking Scotland, he doesn’t want to cement his reputation by leading the Little Scotlanders for the rest of his natural life.

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  69. 137
  70. 138
    The wizz says:

    Sorry. but Clegg couldn’t win a one horse race.

    Like

  71. 150
    Genghiz the kahn says:

    Who performed better?

    Like

  72. 172
    Nick's Mummy says:

    Ik ben het met Nick.

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  73. 187
    A former Asst Secretary of the US Treasury says:

    How Much War Does Washington Want?

    http://tinyurl.com/k7xst62

    “America does not at the moment have a functioning democracy.”
    Former US President Jimmy Carter

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    • 220
      A Conservative says:

      This echoes what some of us have been saying here for a long time

      But the tide is turning..

      You cannot fool all the People all the time

      The real question is:

      Can Obama stop the neocons in his own party and Republican neocons from taking us all into a nuclear war?

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    • 234
      Neocon central says:

      We believe in freedom and plutocracy

      We are exceptional and chosen

      We are above the law

      We use propaganda better than Goebbels

      Might is right

      We are Fascists

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      • 244
        Surreael Central says:

        Unelected leader of the EU meets unelected leader of the Ukraine to complain about elections in the Crimea.

        How fucking surreal is that!

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  74. 188
    Pint please says:

    Beeb One News happily talking about Max’s penile size. Last week some gay bloke was rogered by Nigel the Pennines puff and freely described the entry.

    FFS…this is national news?

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    • 196
      jgm2 says:

      I think I’ve found the reason for the discrepancy in Max’s ‘measurements’. I think the witnesses were quoting inches while Max was using centimetres.

      I’m sure he will claim he just got confused with his units(?!)

      It’s all about plausible deniability. No matter how implausible. The Blair Doctrine.

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  75. 189
    albacore says:

    At the end of the day, the British are still ruled
    By a dictator into whose rule they were fooled
    Not defeated in war, just duped effortlessly
    By Parliament after Parliament endlessly
    When all’s said and done, why no referundum now?
    The mother of parliaments surely must know how

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  76. 193
    Blowing Whistles says:

    David Cameron and Nick Clegg go into a bookstore and ask for a book about coalitions.

    The shop owner says, “It’s over there on the left… No sorry, I mean the right… No, I tell a lie. We sold out.”

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  77. 199
    Ad hock says:

    Farage is credible, UKIP is not.

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  78. 210
    Trying times ahead says:

    Just listening to Newsnight about the debate, I just wondering if their was a couple of debates going on at the same time, most of the crap they are talking about, I can’t remember, must be my memory going. I

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  79. 228
    Casino operator says:

    Britain without Europe

    Is like Macao without China

    An offshore casino and brothel

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    • 240
      The Pearl River says:

      With some decent restaurants

      Like

    • 243
      jgm2 says:

      Britain without Europe is like Monaco without Europe.

      And without White Dee and 5,000,000 fellow travellers. And 5,000,000 million cultural enrichers.

      Apart from that Britain is like Monaco without Europe.

      And without the sun. And the Mediterranean.

      Apart from that Britain is like Europe.

      And without Fucking Scotland and Fucking Wales and Fucking NI.

      Apart from….

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    • 248
      F##k the LibLabCon says:

      Grow a brain.

      Like

  80. 236
    What Happens If A US President Stops Speaking, And Nobody Claps says:

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  81. 247
    F##k the LibLabCon says:

    I see Nick Clegg was in full common purpose mode this evening, building his little straw men whenever the going got tough.

    Like

  82. 253
    Rightallalong says:

    Clegg said we need to be in the EU to tackle climate change. Is that why we joined the Common Market ?

    Like

  83. 254
    Say NO to European Onion says:

    Nick Smegg
    Norman Miffed

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  84. 266
    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:

    MY PANTS ARE ON FIRE AGAIN.

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  85. 268
    Missed this one Nigel. says:

    About those 140 murderers and however many paedphiles that were returned to EU countries on account of the European arrest warrant……if we had control of our own borders, the scum wouldn’t (shouldn’t) be here in the first place.

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  86. 272
    RichUpNorth says:

    “…over thirty years since …..vote on Britains membership of the European Union.”
    Er…..we’ve never voted on our membership of the EU, that was a vote on whether we should stay in the COMMON MARKET. We were told it was a trading bloc, nothing about EUSSR, single currency, open borders, etc. If that lying bastard Heath had put all the cards on the table and told us the true intentions of the Eurocrats we’d have voted to exit.
    In the debate Clegg didn’t answer a single question, he just set off at a tangent and prattled on about what he wanted to. Typical of the cnut.
    If the voters in Sheffield Hallam return him to Westminster next year they should be fucking gassed. Mind you, there are some thick fuckers in sheffield.

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  87. 273
    C O (Ξ7l) says:

    The Hash tag approach to international relations.

    This is real – not a prank:

    On top of O’bama’s latest speech:

    h**p://www.washingtonpost.com/world/transcript-president-obama-gives-speech-addressing-europe-russia-on-march-26/2014/03/26/07ae80ae-b503-11e3-b899-20667de76985_story.html

    ‘Of course U’kraine is not a member of NATO, in part because of its close and complex history with R’ussia. Nor will R’ussia be dislodged from Cr!mea or deterred from further escalation by military force.’

    So, that’s a big green light to M’oscow if it wishes to conquer U’kraine.

    Picture of van Rumpy in the Post article is funny.

    EU approach: #ShittingSeriousBricksHelpMummy!

    – In 28 different language of course…

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  88. 274

    So that UK Putin fan club so far…

    1. Fatty Griffin
    2. Socialist Rapists’ Party
    3. Galloway
    4. Lemon Party.

    He’ll be hugely encouraged by that.

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  89. 282
    Hilda says:

    Sneaky Cleggy got whipped

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  90. 287
    Socialism is theft says:

    The lefties and liberals hate the way that the British have ‘exploited’ other poorer lands for their minerals but they think it is perfectly acceptable to entice their young people, including skilled nurses and doctors to come and live here, thus depriving them of their own medical needs. How can they even begin to justify this? Are they saying that it does not matter if the sick in third world countries suffer and die without any medical help?

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  91. 288
    Taxfodder says:

    Clegg “The Mission” To engage with the electorate raise his profile, all he actually achieved was to remind us all what a two faced lying toad is actually is.

    Farage “Game on” achieved what Mr Clegg failed to do…Engage with the electorate and remind his countrymen that he cares about his country.

    Milliband and Cameron “Running Scared” nothing new nothing worth hearing nothing achieved says it all….

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  92. 291
    Mass debate says:

    I want Britain and the EU to consciously uncouple.

    Like

    • 293
      Bus Pass Elvis says:

      It’s probably that the browser cache needs to be flushed out. Google can help with this.

      Like

  93. 294
    Owen Jones says:

    Right wing political bloggers ordered to get Guido Fawkes haircuts under new guidelines.

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  94. 296
    The end is nigh says:

    YouGov/Electoral Calculus poll in the Telegraph projects a Labour majority of 4 seats, even with all the gerrymandering and likely electoral fraud. Lib Dems to be reduced to 11 MPs.

    Like

    • 318
      Mustapha Stamp says:

      Fear not Ed. My army of mustaphas will work night and day to ensure that the postal vote lifts that majority to at least 104. Dhimmy Dave will just chillax and let us get on with it.

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  95. 298
    ciconia says:

    Nobody seriously expects Nigel Farage to be in No. 10, ever.
    And we should expect his movement to be a bit vulnerable to close examination.
    Yet Clegg, already a key holder, came over as a breathy and unconvincing village chapel preacher. All the usual stale old nonsense, the three million jobs…..
    If this is the best a professional politician (no other work experience & approaching 50) can do despite the backing of an army of party workers and taxpayer funded help, God help us.
    The man really has no idea, and worse, thinks we’re all stupid.

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    • 308
      we want out says:

      Clegg spoke in scaremongering hypotheticals while Farage reflected the severe problems caused by the EU that we live with every day.

      Like

    • 319
      Socialism is theft says:

      Nobody seriously expected Alex Salmond to be running Scotland at one time either. Nobody seriously expected Nick Clegg would be in government at one time either.

      I can see the possibility of Farage (or some other UKIP leader) being in No 10 at some time in the future. Why ever not? It just needs many more people to wake up.

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      • 321
        Anonymous says:

        Unfortunately, I don’t think the establishment has even started yet on their campaign to squeeze UKIP and promote the eu. We will have the major parties, the BBC, various quangos and fellow travellers picking over everything to find ammunition against UKIP. Expect some revelations or other just before an election if it suits the Eurosuckup agenda, If only some of this taxpayers money could be spent exposing the existing office holders.
        And let’s not forget the millions that the eu spends on propaganda, even something as apparently harmless as twinning organisations, subsidised to draw in the lefty liberals to the eu programme.

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  96. 316
    Pedant#1 says:

    LBC – poor grammar. the BEST? No, when comparing TWO things/people. the correct word is BETTER.

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  97. 331
    It’s not just me then says:

    In this debate:
    Farage spoke for 23mins 01secs and Clegg for 25mins 51secs + 35secs talking over Farage.
    Farage answered the questions, whereas Clegg just recited an incongruous script, so fully expecting Clegg would wipe the floor with Farage, all many of the incestuous media bigots could think of saying was, Farage looked sweaty.

    Like


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