March 21st, 2014

What the Fox?

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In 2004, the Hunting Act was passed which made hunting with dogs for sport illegal in England and Wales. Ever since then those that have wanted to keep hunting have campaigned for a repeal, or overturn, of the ban.

Even though the Coalition Agreement includes a promise for a free vote to repeal the Act, the Government seems intent on amending the Act using a Statutory Instrument (SI), a type of legislation that can be used to push changes through Parliament with less scrutiny than a full vote on repeal would require.

David Cameron knows that a straight vote to repeal the hunting ban would fail in Parliament. Amending an Act is much easier than attempting to overturn it and an abuse of the democratic process. If the SI is approved, this will essentially overturn the ban on hunting wild mammals with dogs, something we cannot allow to happen.

Please contact your MP today and urge them to vote against this devious attempt to bring back cruelty.


347 Comments

  1. 1
    Anonymous says:

    Fuck off.

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  2. 2
    Anonymous says:

    “Keep Cruelty History!”

    Well, that’s Halal an Kosher out the window then?

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    • 18
      widescreen2010 says:

      That would be a MUCH more worthwhile campaign.

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    • 37
      Dr Spock says:

      What aboout circumcision as well?

      Barbaric tribal custom..

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      • 48
        Paniagua V5.1 says:

        Why the hell are you suggesting circumcising foxes?
        Arent they persecuted enough man?

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        • 150
          helpful suggestion says:

          FGM is barbaric.
          Ban it.

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          • Ziz says:

            Quite – but they won’t – t’would offend the racially privileged ones!

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          • Puzzled says:

            3939 cases of FGM recored in London in the last 5 years (Guardian -9/3/14)

            thats just the ones who had complications and needed to seek medical attention and were recorded

            Politicians, of course, happy to turn a blind eye

            Now I wonder why?

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          • A peasant passing through says:

            … and that is just the LONDON figures. No doubt they could probably be quintupled if stats were kept for our lovely enriched enclaves – Bradford and environs, Tower Hamlets etc etc…

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          • You know its the truth says:

            FGM is banned its just that the police are afraid of upsetting our “enrichers” by enforcing the law, if its English people doing this their feet wouldnt touch.

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    • 334
      You know its the truth says:

      Yes please.

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  3. 3
    High Dudgeon says:

    Who is sponsoring this post? It’s not clear. Probably the RSPCA, the extreme left-wing fringe of the animal rights movement.

    I want fox hunting back and don’t care for those who defend a fox ahead of a human or even a dog. Priorities.

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    • 6
      hGOM says:

      Spot on.

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    • 7
      Boris says:

      I’m too busy chasing beaver to be much bothered.

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    • 23
      Maximus says:

      Some 5th column I expect. Observe the weaselly catch-all “wild mammals”. While I think foxes are vermin, I rather draw the line at hunting blacks with fyce. So where will the SI draw the line. Will that 5th column tell us?

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    • 24
      Lord Lucan says:

      sponsored by typical lefty PETA extremists. Love trees and Animals, can’t stand people.

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      • 41
        Most serial killers began by abusing animals, so that's the company the pro-hunting cunts are in says:

        Not when they’re like you.

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    • 71
      Delia says:

      Hanging people good, hunting foxes bad.

      Gweeds can be a right bellpiece at times.

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    • 119
      moleykins says:

      league against cruel sports

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    • 169
      Keitho says:

      Perhaps it was this bunch

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    • 180
      Number 7 says:

      Follow the link – League Against Cruel Sports!!!!!!

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    • 207
      Jim says:

      Foxes are evil, nasty, vicious animals, and if anyone in London actually realised what damage they do to the countryside, they wouldn’t be so hasty in shouting about it.

      Against cruel sports are they? How about the cruel sports the fox indulges in, namely the slaughter of lambs, chickens, wild nesting birds etc?

      And they don’t do it to eat or survive either, they do it for sheer inbuilt nastyness.

      Local RSPB reserve had a cctv nesting cam of a Hen Harrier family (One of the rarest birds in Britain) and captured Mr Fox popping in and shredding the chicks. Then the Mum.

      Didn’t eat them of course, it was just sport for the fox.

      Riding out in a hunt aint my cup of tea, but these vermin need to be controlled. A single shot is more than sufficient, we don’t need to drag ourselves down to the level of the fox.

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      • 231
        Fantastic Mr Fox says:

        You could say all that about cats … want them shot too?

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        • 238
          Sid Bonkers says:

          Reducing the number of “domestic” cats would improve the survival chances of millions of songbirds, amphibians and rodents in the UK. Perhaps you should look up the sad story of the Stephen Island Wren. Unless you are one of these sad lonely people who can only relate to felines and have such an emotional inadequacy that you think cats are more important than wildlife.

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        • 249
          Jim says:

          You’ve seen a domestic cat savage a flock of lambs have you?

          Hope you got it on video.

          Sure cats are bad, but they tend to focus on mice and small & prolific species of bird.

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        • 286
          Dave says:

          Yes,fuck em.

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      • 324
        Tel E. Caster says:

        Shooting is only more humane if you kill the fox outright. If wounded, the fox faces a slow agonising death. Ditto with poisoning. The Hunt, as unsavoury as it may be to many people (and I certainly have no desire to take part in such a thing), is probably still the best way to keep numbers under control.

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        • 326
          Anonymous says:

          It is still legal to use a pair of dogs to flush out foxes for shooting. It seems to be illegal to use the dogs to capture a wounded (shot) fox, whereas this seems to be legal for other animals. Indeed no reason to go down to the fox’s level.

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    • 336
      Blue shit says:

      Blue fox, what else !

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    • 340
      Anonymous says:

      Dont be stupid High Dudgeon. Cruelty is cruelty whatever the status of the victim in a human defined hierarchy. Only some sort of perverted sadist would fail to realise that . It is not a question of choosing a fox or a dog over a human it is a matter of opposing all cruel practises whoever carries them out and whatever the victim may be. That is morality, not convenience.

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  4. 4
    CharlieTheChump says:

    Ban fox hunting, hunt socialists with dogs instead

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  5. 8
    Johnny Gurkha says:

    Guido, you sound like a Londoner. I’m beginning to tire of the constant “London is the best city in the world” piece, because the focus of this country is London. There are, you may not like to believe it, those of us who live a damned long distance from the capital, but we do want a small piece of ownership of the legislation.
    Fox-hunting is supported, by the majority, outside our big towns and cities. Why? Because we live in the countryside and spend time and effort, with passion, caring for it and protecting it.

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    • 12
      still walking into darkness says:

      That’ll make him choke on his venison sandwich at lunchtime

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    • 21
      Hugh Janus says:

      Spot on, JG.

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    • 32
      Mitch says:

      He’s being paid to post this. He might not agree.

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    • 36

      You may not have noticed the [SPONSORED POST] tag.

      An advertisement is not an endorsement. Particularly in this case.

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      • 50
        ex Tory Voter says:

        30 pieces of silver, Fawkesie.

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        • 81

          A bit more than that, wine cellars don’t fill themselves y’know.

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          • still walking into darkness says:

            it’s fairly obvious to all that you can afford to eat

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          • Bill Quango MP says:

            The joy of being on the right is that there is no need to tie oneself in hypocritical leftie knots.

            Space is sold. It matters not to whom as long as its legal.

            No need to demand a boycott of Amazon and Google and then hope no right-on friends discover you buying some non-fairtrade pasta online.

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          • Back1woodsman says:

            ‘Kin hell Fawkes, give yourself a good slap, then sit on the naughty step.

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      • 102
        I'm a Londoner ... says:

        He may not have noticed the [SPONSORED POST] tag because it is in a small font and off to the RH side where it is easy to miss.

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      • 272
        JDS says:

        If you don’t agree with it don’t take money to advertise it. And you might want to make it clearer this is an advert. It looks like a opinion piece.

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    • 38
      Fred West Was From The Countryside says:

      So is fucking your own daughter but we in YOUR capital must stop you fucking savages at some point. Just shut the fuck up and go and wait for the bus that will take you to the big Tesco superstore that killed your quaint little village you dirty little inbred tard.

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      • 78
        Can I suggest says:

        You get back to your insular little housing bubble and concentrate on eradicating FGM as its a little closer to your pathetic 20 sq ft apartment.

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      • 144
        Johnny Gurkha says:

        I guess you just summed yourself up very well. Hey ho, sun is shining today.

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      • 171
        good luck with that trotskii says:

        Go and march on your friendly local Islamo halal butchers and demand they stop slaughtering animals by slitting their throats.

        Report back here when you’ve done this, and you may be taken more seriously.

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      • 239
        The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

        I would love to see the bunny huggers try and stop the biggest killer of foxes in the UK. Close down all the motorways? Hmm… tricky.

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    • 56
      I'm a Londoner ... says:

      … born & bred and I agree with you.

      The ban never had the support of the people of this country. Blair only introduced it as a sop to his back-benchers and it was forced though using the Parliament Acts (thanks to Capt Apollo for reminding me of that) when this was never what they were designed for.

      Also the ban does not work and may well have caused more suffereing to foxes.

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      • 88
        Twampersand mk III says:

        I think Blair was convinced of the merits of the pro-ban argument by the 1 million quid cheque he received from the RSPCA.

        From that day on I haver never given the bastards another penny. BTW They kill thousands of perfectly healthy cats and dogs every year, mostly because they have made rescuing one more difficult than adopting a child.

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    • 133
      non taxable pikey says:

      “Fox-hunting is supported, by the majority, outside our big towns and cities. Why? Because we live in the countryside and spend time and effort, with passion, caring for it and protecting it.”
      So, if the majority of us outside the big towns and cities support it lets have a targeted referendum avoiding the big towns and cities, that way you might get hard evidence that it is “supported by the majority.” Round these parts there are a lot of farmers who will not allow the hunt onto their land. The same farmers that shoot foxes when they see them.

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    • 193
      the countryside alliance and leicester says:

      and many of us get

      red diesel SUBSIDIIES

      EC farming SUBSIDIES (in esswence pand speculation SUBSIDY)

      uk farming SUBSIDIES

      privileged planning permission (= SUBSIDY)

      and don’t pay any business rates (= SUBSIDY)

      and care PASSIONATELY that we get more of the above

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    • 341
      Anonymous says:

      Not true if reliable polling is carried out. May be true in the car park of the “Dog and Duck” on hunt day but overall little difference in opinion between town and country when efforts are made to ensure integrity in the polling. Shame a perversion of poll results is the only way to present a claim of support for the perverted.

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  6. 10
    Welshracer says:

    If you click the link you will see who is sponsoring this article.

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  7. 11
    widescreen2010 says:

    If the anti-hunting legislation had any animal welfare purpose, it would be credible.
    It doesn’t.
    It was just ‘we don’t like them so we will stop them doing things the that they do’.
    Good riddance to bad laws.

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  8. 14
    Capt Apollo says:

    since the ban was pushed through the commons and lords via the parliament act itself undemocratic this would restore the status quo and allow for proper debate

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    • 77
      Oh for gawds sake... says:

      Exactly. Plus, there were several studies done for Blair’s government that showed that in rough, mountainous areas, such as Wales, the Lake District, the Highlands, etc., hunting with dogs was a far more reliable than shooting.
      This was conveniently ignored when they rammed the legislation through.

      The purpose of fox hunting is pest control. Doesn’t mean the participants can’t enjoy themselves, but the anti-hunt brigade seem to think that those involved only did it for a bit of fun at the weekend. Ignorant pillocks.

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  9. 15
    Hugh Janus says:

    Has Guido been snorting something? I thought he was a libertarian and a supporter of small, non-nannying, non-interfering government.

    This post looks as though it’s been cut and pasted from an organisation with the usual leftie, we-know-best attitude.

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  10. 16
    TheOldCodger says:

    If you right click on the high lit box you will see this is sponsored by the League Against Cruel Sports. They won’t get my vote! and how they got on to Guido’s site I have no idea.

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  11. 17
    Paniagua V5.1 says:

    I don’t know what fucking retards have paid for this to go up, but they clearly need help on how best to select and target a relevant audience.

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    • 44
      Johan Harri says:

      I don’t know what fucking retards have paid for this to go up, but they clearly need help on how best to select and target a relevant audience.

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  12. 19
    Moriarty says:

    If we are forced to have Halal slaughter in this country and not have the meat labeled so we can avoid it in the supermarket then we can put up with hunting with dogs.

    The people against hunting with dogs on cruelty grounds won’t dare take a stand against halal so why listen to them?

    Would help to know who sponsored this post.

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  13. 22

    Nah.
    Politicians are mammals (although only marginally evolved from reptiles). Their expenses claims are wildly extravagant. Mastiffs are dogs.
    What’s not to like?

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  14. 26
    Dougie says:

    “If the SI is approved, this will essentially overturn the ban on hunting wild mammals with dogs, something we cannot allow to happen.”

    Oh yes we can and yes we should.

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  15. 30
    A Huntsman says:

    So if we slit the throat of the fox halal style before the dogs have a go, is that OK?

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  16. 31
    SBS says:

    Repeal the ban and bring back Pistol shooting and self loading rifles.
    Fox hunting ban was immoral if you still allow halal slaughter.

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  17. 34
    Release the Hounds says:

    Foxtrot Oscar

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  18. 35
    Foxy Fox says:

    Chase me! Chase me!

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  19. 39
    Shocked of Sheen says:

    Foxes poo in my garden all the time, incontinent little mangy b*astards, bring back the Hunt to Richmond!

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  20. 40
    Winston says:

    Nobody gives a monkey’s, bar metropolitan liberals, crusties and lonely old ladies.

    Its been a whole week without a Tory led, Guido attack on UKIP. What’s going on?

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    • 92
      UN Observer says:

      Guido and the neocons will use any diversion to avoid talking about the criminal shit they are doing in Ukrains with neo fascists, Ysrael with new ethnic cleansing and in Syria supporting the Jihadis

      Not to speak of criminal banksters and oligarchs on which Laundry London survives

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    • 134

      UKIP are imploding and disappearing up their own arses. Why interfere ?

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  21. 41
    The Duke says:

    What moron thought that a website such as this would be a place to galvanise opinion against fox hunting? Now if there was a campaign to hunt down animal rights activists that would be another matter…

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    • 47
      Most serial killers began by abusing animals, so that's the company the pro-hunting cunts are in says:

      Wouldn’t it be deliciously ironic if you got BSE and died in agony a spluttering vegetable?

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      • 64
        was it something I said? says:

        Isn’t it deliciously ironic that self-professed animal lovers would wish that fate on a human being.

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      • 69
        Most of the liberal elite began by abusing themselves says:

        Do one knobhead.

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        • 72
          tigerowl says:

          ‘Most of the liberal elite began by abusing themselves ..’ And there is the limit of the pro hunting argument. Need new brain cells one thinks.

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          • Most of the liberal elite began by abusing themselves says:

            First mistake Tiger old son is that I am pro hunting.

            I’m not just anti wanker

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      • 123
        The Duke says:

        I shall rise above the base insults you’ve thrown my way – they are as water off a duck’s back.

        And, as I come to think about it, I believe in hunting ducks too because they make a jolly nice meal from time to time, though one finds that there’s not an awful lot of meat on a duck.

        That’s the strange thing about you animal rights fascists. You love animals more than your fellow human beings. Why?

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        • 139
          M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

          Indeed, the rights of vermin are placed higher than that of a human child by these nutters.

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      • 162
        Most serial killers are lefties says:

        Did you think it was ironic when the baby in London had its face chewed off by a fox?

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      • 328
        Tel E. Caster says:

        …except that BSE can’t be passed to humans (before anyone mentions CJD there is no scientific evidence that there is any link between that and BSE).

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    • 70
      tigerowl says:

      I would meet you any time to ‘discuss’ fox hunting. Those who support the cause against the moronic ‘sport’ of killing will prevail.
      ‘ Now if there was a campaign to hunt down animal rights activists that would be another matter…’ …Sticks and stones son make no difference. Majority are against hunting. Get used to it. Majority of human kind already have.

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      • 93
        Air Rifle with a Good Scope and moderator says:

        *Pffft*

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      • 142
        Metrosexual says:

        ‘Humankind’. I see you have the Newspeak down pat. You’re the sort of Hunt who pads things out with he/she and his/her everywhere. Wretched idiot.

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    • 109
      moleykins says:

      Well said

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      • 155
        charity begins at home says:

        Shouldn’t the sponsor spend money saving pets being
        cruelly treated rather than wasting it on ads which won’t
        persuade anyone here that the Hunting Act should remain.

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    • 342
      Anonymous says:

      I doubt if linking “What the Fox” to this website is seriously expected to change the views of those who usually look at it. But it has done a good job of exposing the bigotry, ignorance, aggression and generally low IQ of those who choke at any suggestion that their perverted hobbies belong in the dustbin.

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  22. 49
    OP says:

    If the blog goes this way I shan’t be visiting again soon.

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  23. 51
    was it something I said? says:

    Do the Tories want to win the next election or not?

    Tony Blair invaded Iraq and caused the death of 1/2 million Iraqis yet was re-elected because he also ba*nn*ed fox-hunting. Dead babies or dead foxes? No contest for the bed-wetters. Foxes have priority all day long.

    I don’t give a fuck about foxes. You can dig them out and beat them to death with bricks for all I care. Same as dogs and cats. I just don’t give a fuck. But bedwetters do. And bedwetters vote.

    Plus, if you lose the next election – and this won’t help – then presumably Labour will just reverse the decision again with another SI. So all you’ll have done is legalise fox-hunting for a single season.

    What’s the point?

    Is it worth it?

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  24. 53
    tomkcook says:

    Glad to see non-discriminatory free enterprise alive and well, Guido. Though just how they thought this audience might respond well is beyond me.

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  25. 54
    tigerowl says:

    Stupid prats on horses, chasing foxes with dogs, just to kill for sport. What sort of society is that? Kill an animal for fun…. what type of person are you? It is now the 21st century. As a species we should have progressed to one where killing for fun is long outlawed. OK for ancient kings in Robin Hoods days. THEY knew no better. But in this day and age…to kill for fun in the name of sport…. how sad a specimen must you be??????????? Like sending children up chimneys, this practice belongs in history.
    And this …’Fox-hunting is supported, by the majority, outside our big towns and cities..’ I do not think so pal. Polls show majority over and over again even in the country side oppose hunting to kill for fun. Here IN THE country side WE oppose killing for fun. WE recognise that human kind has matured in most places. Sad that there are still a few who are Neanderthal in their thinking. But they too will die off.

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    • 80
      was it something I said? says:

      As we are finding out from the badger cull, shooting them (badgers but applies equally to foxes) is nothing like as binary as foxy-loxie getting caught by the hounds. There’s no reports of foxes only getting half eaten and crawling away to die.

      If you’re comfortable with the idea that foxes are vermin and need controlling then taking your hounds for a nice ride in the country is as good a way to control them as any else. Hounds have to eat too.

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    • 84
      Basil Brush says:

      “Here IN THE countryside” Living next to a park in Londistan is not the countryside.

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      • 91
        Garfield says:

        But he has watched 12 episodes of All Creatures Great and Small. So he knows what he is talking about.

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      • 108
        Paniagua V5.1 says:

        A park in Londonistan is almost the same, apart from there the dogs step in human shit.

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    • 95
      Oh for gawds sake... says:

      Funnily enough, while chatting to a fox the other day, it transpired that he didn’t have a clue that it was the 21st century, and he was only interested in eating the animals at local farms.

      Fox hunting is pest control you feckin’ numpty. Anyone involved with livestock in this country understands this. The fact that so much of our population is ignorant of where eggs, chicken, lamb, etc comes from doesn’t change the laws that govern mother nature.

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      • 122
        Metrosexual says:

        I thought they came from Waitwose.

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      • 132
        M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

        It’s actually both control of vermin and fun. It’s only one or the other depending on your viewpoint.

        As a lad I used to go rattin’ with terriers. We didn’t wear hunting pink but we had fucking great times and were doing a useful job to boot.

        I wonder if these metropolitan lefties would oppose abortion if the doctors enjoyed it?

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    • 117
      moleykins says:

      You give yourself away with your ‘stupid prats on horses’ jibe. You just hate the hunters not the hunting – probably because unlike you they can afford to own or hire a horse. Bitter, envious little person

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    • 148

      What sort of a society condones the killing of unborn humans because they’re a nuisance or the wrong gender but agonises over the dispatch of disease-ridden vermin? Get your priorities sorted out, mate.

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      • 343
        Anonymous says:

        Another example of an inability to realise that this is not a matter of priorties or choices. Bad thing are bad things and it is quite possible to be opposed to more than one at a time. Only inbreds of littte brain would attempt to gather support for their perverted activities by suggesting otherwise.

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  26. 55
    Lord Rennard says:

    The “League against cruel sports” would be better off campaigning on behalf of golf players forced to waste hours pointlessly hitting a ball into a hole or swimmers who paddle from one end of a tiled basin to the other.

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  27. 63
    Fuck The EU says:

    Fox hunting should be brought back, and exit the EU.

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  28. 64
    I may be a pompous fart, but you know I'm right says:

    Guido, in the interests of transparency you really ought to say who this post has been sponsored by. Some of the commenters above clearly think it’s normal editorial – although why on earth they do is a mystery.

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  29. 66
    Ken John Peel says:

    Presumably Guido agrees with the sentiment of this post or he would not have allowed it on the site. If so why not say so. It’s a bit cowardly to hide behind a sponsor.

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    • 79
      Mark Oaten says:

      He’ll post most things if the price is right, it seems.

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        A peasant passing through says:

        If you ever read them, you would also know that many articles in newspapers end with something like “The views expressed herein are those of the writer and are not necessarily the views of this publication”.

        Same sort of thing here.

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    • 115
      One Eyed Scottish Idiot says:

      Why shouldn’t he take their money? Hopefully they’ll have to put their mothers on the game to pay for their bedwetting ‘save the poor widdle foxes’ fuckwittery.

      Go get ‘em, Guido, squeeze every last penny out of their clammy, wringing hands.

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  30. 67
    Corby says:

    good for cameron – the ban on fox hunting was a mean minded piece of class warfare – not the shift in ground to mamels – what about banning fishing

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  31. 73
    Tony Blair is a war criminal says:

    Victoria Derbyshire just had the Tory MP on
    Radio 5 who wants to decriminalise the TV tax. She made it very clear she doesn’t like that idea. Of course not, 300k a year for doing fuck all is a nice gig. Paid for by the poor natch.

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  32. 74
    Basil Brush says:

    Anyone for a Pokey Pola

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  33. 75
    Fox Holocaust says:

    HATERS !!!!

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  34. 94
    was it something I said? says:

    I question whether the Tories really are planning to use an SI to re-legalise fox-hunting. It sounds like bull-shit to me.

    This is more likely Labour mis-information fed to PETA and their ilk to try and reignite the class-war passions of the bedwetters. It makes no sense to needlessly enrage so many voters this close to an election. If he was going to use an SI he should/would have done so back in 2010 to allow folk to calm down by now.

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    sadbutmadlad says:

    I must say, its pretty brave of the League Against Cruel Sports to be willing to pay money to Guido considering that they should be sure that they would get lambasted (as the comments show). But if they want to throw their money around and pay for Guido’s wine cellar then that’s their problem. All they’ve done to me is show how stupid they are and how much hatred they espouse towards people who mainly like to ride horses.

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    • 111
      was it something I said? says:

      As for fox-hunting being ‘ba*nn*ed’. If you believe that you’ll believe anything.

      Our local hunt goes out two or three times a week in season. One of my daughters friends is well into it. She’ll go hunting and then be back in time to go to school. That’s how early these loonies are up. And if anybody thinks they’re getting up at 4am or 5am just to chase a runner with a scent then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

      These hunts are, how we say, ‘connected’. That’s why, despite fox-hunting still blatantly going on so few prosecutions actually take place.

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      • 130
        Heythrop Hunt says:

        Exactly

        We have continues hunting

        But we are covered by powerful criminals like Rebekah and Charlie and Dave

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  37. 104
    moleykins says:

    Does it really need to be said again?

    1. It is accepted that the fox population needs to be kept down
    2. So the fox is going to be killed anyway
    3. Is being killed in a second by the first hound any crueller or more painful than being shot?
    4. No
    5. Therefore, the only objection is that those who hunt (aasumed to be redfaced toffs to a man and woman) enjoy it i.e class hatred
    6. How about if the fox shooters put on redcoats and start to enjoy it too? then presumably they would have to be banned and the foxes poisoned?
    7. Vast majority of people eat meat, wear shoes etc. so therefore indirectly anyway enjoy the result of animals being killed
    8. There is not a single valid or consistent argument against fox hunting. I challenge anyone to produce one

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    • 147
      Your view matters! What is it? says:

      The Question could be put “What is your preferred way to kill a fox?”

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    • 208
      bergen says:

      I agree entirely. I have no wish ever to go hunting but neither do I wish to tell country people how they must control foxes to please some right-on islingtonians who have never seen a farm in their lives or the carnage a fox can wreak.

      If the sponsor of this threadt is prepared to launch a campaign against the slaughter of animals using halal methods then I could support them.

      Otherwise they should get stuffed.

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  38. 112
    Nick Clegg says:

    Can we all just sit down calmly over a pot of Raffia tea, and discuss like grown adults please.

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  39. 113
    Ah! well says:

    First prosecution for FGM announced

    Fox gently mutilated?

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  40. 124
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    Death to animated gifs

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  41. 126
    Garfield says:

    I heard this morning that the Glorious Socialist Republic Of Venezuela is running short of Medicines, maybe Owen Jones and Miss D fatbot could do a whip round.

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    • 176
      Pavlov's pooch says:

      Hopefully the organ donor shortage can also be sorted by Jones & the Flabott personally.

      Like

  42. 127
    Satan says:

    Cameron also wants “ritual slaughter” to continue in the UK. He is the lapdog of ideologically warped clerics.

    Like

    • 141
      Jack says:

      Or bought by Sheikhs like Wee Willie Hague…

      Why are they supporting jihadis in Syria? Big big Gulf bucks…(following the huge bungs Blair has received)

      Like

    • 151
      Anonymous says:

      No, he just wants animal slaughter to continue. Or are you campaigning for any slaughter to be banned, whether a swfit knife to the neck or, say being plunged headfirst into water to be electrocuted, or to have electrodes fired into the head? Because the latter two are how non-kosher animals are slaughtered, and it’s far more stressful.

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  43. 129
    Ah! hens says:

    Just kill the buggers by any means.

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  44. 131
    Rigsby says:

    I expect to read something like this on 38 Dec**ts or some other middle class, faux lefty hand wringing forum. Not on Guido. Shame.

    Like

  45. 136
    Kill the cat bill wanted says:

    The biggest threat to wild animals comes from cats. Every other single cat causes more wild animal kills than any pack of hounds. Any person who is a vegetarian, opposes hunting or enjoys wildlife but keeps a cat is a monumental hyppercrit.

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  46. 137
    Piss-poor Comedian says:

    “The puritan hated bear baiting, not because it gave pain to the bear, but because it gave pleasure to the spectators.”

    Thomas B. Macaulay

    For ‘puritan’ read ‘socialist’, and for ‘bear baiting’ read ‘fox hunting’.

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  47. 139
    neitherdeadnoralive says:

    League Against Cruel Sports, (LACS); the same group where seven of them beat up a hunt servant with bricks and metal bars and put him in hospital, brave fuckers…………….

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    • 164
      let's not forget says:

      Animal rights activists also desecrated the graves and attempted
      to dig up the remains of the Duke of Beaufort and an 82 year old
      lady in Staffordshire.

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  48. 143
    Anonymous says:

    +1

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  49. 145
    hunters are cunts says:

    This website is normally or in fact always filled with foul mouthed deranged men who hate everything and obviously have small penises. No surprise then that they love fox killing. Animal lovers are not the misanthropists, you losers.

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  50. 146
    Yaosxx says:

    Jeez Guido! I didn’t realise you were such a wimp!!!

    Like

  51. 149
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    Eu wankers sign deal with unelected leaders and moan about Crimean referendum

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  52. 153
    Jim says:

    Brilliant work by the League Against Cruel Sports. Guido gets his wine, we get our righteous anger and they get to waste their funds targeting people who either couldn’t give a damn or are pro hunting.

    Guido, you should make the “Sponsored Post” tag much larger – I was wondering what the hell had got into you!

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  53. 160
    David S says:

    You can’t amend an Act by statutory instrument, unless the Act itself provides that you can. An Act is a superior form of legislation. It can’t be an abuse of the democratic process to use an SI; the SI must derive its power from the Act.

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    • 196
      Captn P says:

      When did these people ever bother with facts. This is socialist worker class war!

      The ends justify the means … Even paying Guido … LOL…

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  54. 161
    DAVE one term flop CAMERON says:

    I assume a free vote , is for the few hundred fat idle toffs on all sides of the house of criminals
    Not a free vote for the people which they would lose by about 80 to 90 % against

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    • 163
      was it something I said? says:

      80-90% of people couldn’t give a toss about fox-hunting one way or the other.

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  55. 168
    alister says:

    The greatest killer of foxes is the road. Cars lorries etc kill foxes estimates vary but of the 200,000+ foxes killed about 100,000 or 50% are killed on the roads. The number shot by farmers account for a good number more so for hunting we’re not talking a lot, in comparison.

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    • 179
      was it something I said? says:

      It’s just a ride out with the dogs.

      I couldn’t believe how much money people pay to be a member of the hunt. It’s something like £1000 a year (maybe more – can’t remember the exact details now). It’s not a cheap pass-time that’s for sure.

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  56. 172
    Walter says:

    Guido, I suggest you should at least vary the look of sponsored posts so that they cannot be mistaken for your content. The format of the post deliberately mimics yours, a grubby bit of intentional misleading.

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  57. 174
    S. Procter says:

    Sorry Guido, but I cannot agree with you on this. There is a whole industry built on the hunting of wild mammals. This puts more money into circulation. It does not make economic sense to ban hunting in this country.

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  58. 182
    Blueredblue says:

    Whose money are you taking next Guido? Venezuelan govt, Socialist Workers Party, Pilgrims or the anti curing cancer punters who attack scientists and dig up people’s grannies.

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  59. 189
    Anonymous says:

    Why am I seeing sponsored advertising purporting to be political comment on this site – Guido, its a fucking disgrace!

    Why should the law in England & Wales be different from Scotland, where a full pack of hounds is used, and research has shown this to be both more humane and more effective?

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  60. 194
    Anonymous says:

    What is this bollocks doing on your site, Guido?

    For what it’s worth, the Hunting Act has made the welfare of foxes worse, most of them now being at shot (at) and wounded like badgers, or snared and left legally to suffer for up to 24 hours.

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  61. 198
    AB says:

    you can have sponsored posts – no-one can tell you not to – but if you do, I will stop reading

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  62. 200
    The helmet rides again says:

    Who gives a toss,
    should never have been banned in the first place,
    wierdy beardy soap-dodges are the problem as per usual!

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  63. 201
    madasafish says:

    Badger shooting is more fun than fox hunting. Besides I fall off a horse when sober.. and can’t mount it whilst drunk.

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    • 270
      Taxpayer-funded astroturfing EU Troll says:

      Try Rat Bashing down the local dump at kicking out time. That my friend is entertainment .

      Like

  64. 203
    realspin says:

    What’s this doing on Guido Fawkes? Foxes have no natural predator and so walk around dispensing “cruelty” to all and sundry all the time. What the hell has it got to do with the government, deciding how they meet their makers?

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    • 310
      inside out says:

      Man is the only natural predator,he controls foxes.The more food available the more foxes breed. Hence a lot more urban foxes breeding,because too many urban men and women leave food waste and takeaway leftovers in the streets.They then complain when foxes enter the houses and gardens searching for food.

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  65. 204
    Soapey Sponge says:

    What about the rights of dogs?

    Dogs are naturally pack animals that hunt prey.

    Surely the animal rights people should support them doing that.

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  66. 205
    Geoffrey Johns says:

    Putting aside the fact that I am quite find of foxes, the ban was typical lefty divisive spite. As for the despicable animal rights activists, hunting’s too good for them

    Like

    • 213
      Nemesis says:

      It was a FREE vote you stupid ignorant twat. Nobody was coerced to vote whether they be left or right wingers. Jeeez, standards of education are really falling even on this website.

      Like

  67. 206

    This is a load of Left Wing Follox. Put out by the soft headed bearded unwashed layabouts. Who wouldn’t know a fox if it bit them in the elbow.

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  68. 210
    Nemesis says:

    I wish they’d put the dogs on Cameron and rid us of this twat. Every time I see the bastard I wish I was playing darts with him.

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  69. 214
    Anonymous says:

    Since the hunting ban I have had to shoot foxes on my land – There aren’t any anymore but my livestock is safe. Before the ban the hunt kept the foxes spreaout and on the move = less problems to livestock owners. Now that they conbgregate I have single handedly killed more foxes in each year than the hunt would over the same land area. Unintended consequences – the hunting ban has killed more foxes than hunting ever did.

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  70. 218
    Maimed Lamb says:

    To any one who has seen what a fox can to to a field of Lambs, laying there with their stomach ripped out, crows pecking out their eyes when they are still alive… no wonder people in the country hunt the Fox.

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    • 225
      culloden says:

      I live in the country. I spend a great deal of time defending poultry and pheasant against the fox. Whatever the arguments for and against hunting (and I am broadly speaking ambivalent), one thing is for certain. It’s got to be the least efficient and least effective method of controlling the fox population.

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      • 227
        Nature says:

        Err No. The most natural way to control the population of an animal is to let other animals do it.

        A gun does not discriminate the lame from the well, while a pack of hounds is most likely to cull the sick.

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        • 235
          culloden says:

          That’s assuming you want to cull a population to improve its health. With foxes it’s a case of vermin control. In this context, you want to shoot the healthiest animals who have the highest chance of successful and prolific breeding.

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      • 301
        A Quote to Note says:

        Culloden says: One “thing is for certain. It’s got to be the least efficient and least effective method of controlling the fox population.”

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  71. 226
    A Country dweller says:

    Quite rightly, I have no say or vote in how London or any other city is run.

    Is it not right then that these city dwellers should not tell me how to run my life?

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  72. 228
    Anonymous says:

    Do I detect townies who have no idea whatsoever about the country, or animal welfare? The ‘foxhunting ban’ has had only negative results for the welfare of foxes.

    and – what has this to do with politics? This isnot, and should not, ever be a ‘political’ matter. The only place it is is in the tiny minds of a bunch of ancient ‘class warriors’.

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  73. 230
    Catastrophic says:

    We have now had three pet cats taken by foxes since hunting was banned. It never used to happen, so it is a sure sign that the current fox population is too high to be supported by their normal sources of food.

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    • 236
      was it something I said? says:

      I’ve often thought that the fox-hunters best revenge would be to capture foxes, hundreds of them and just dump them in the middle of towns and cities. See how tolerant the ‘animal loving’ bedwetters were when it was their cats and puppies that were being scoffed rather than some chickens out in the country.

      Foxes going in through cat-flaps and eating the food off the kitchen table.

      That’d leran ‘em.

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      • 303
        Anonymous says:

        Your totally over-the-top comments do nothing to help the case for hunting – so don’t stop sending them.

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    • 240
      Fantastic Mr Fox says:

      Good! Cats are c’unts … shit everywhere and kill everything.

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  74. 234
    Cuntryboy says:

    If foxhunting is about pest control, why do they stop hunting in March?

    Answer…. to allow the foxes to breed so that there will be plenty to hunt next year.

    That said, there are far more important issues to deal with first.

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  75. 245
    The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    League Against Cruel Sports do not seem interested in the welfare of horses kept by “Jolly Travelling Folk” for their “sport” of trotting. The way some of those horses are treated beggars belief. Oh sorry, I forgot, the “Jolly Travelling Folk” aren’t “Toffs”. Silly me…!

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    • 248
      inside out says:

      I pay to watch some of the loons telling’ Travelling Folk’,I say chaps thats cruel and not allowed.What do you think their response would be?

      Like

  76. 250
    A Chicken says:

    What clucker said that?

    Like

  77. 253
    Airey Belvoir says:

    To be fair to our host, he has cleverly combined making money with some effective clickbait by posting this. We’ve all enjoyed a good rant and Guido has upped his hits and financed his next bottle of Margaux.

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  78. 254
    David Soutter says:

    Shame on you for showing this lefty twaddle. Bring back hunting !

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  79. 255
    Oscarwildesummedthemupperfectly says:

    Countryside Alliance out in force I see.

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  80. 256
    EyeSee says:

    Very few people ever take glory in the kill. Used to control a serious pest to farmers with livestock and chickens, it is still the most efficient way of killing foxes. The shooting mob are simpletons who also haven’t bothered to understand an issue before deciding. It usually ends up with an injured animal escaping, whereas a hunt usually ends up with an escaping fox. The ‘sport’ is the riding and the control of hounds, not the kill, which is a mere necessity of country life for people who care for and about animals. Rather than those townies and Lefties who sit at home and make decisions based on no knowledge whatsoever. The hunting ban and the Iraq war, the only legacies of Blair (with the debt being down to his henchman Brown). Brilliant. If that is important to you, then press on with the Global Warming scam and press regulation too.

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    • 304
      Anonymous says:

      While you maintain that few take glory in the kill, is it correct they cut off the fox tail and smear the blood on their kids?

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  81. 258
    Squeezing Pimples says:

    I never bothered with hunting foxes with dogs, as a group we would smoke out a fox earth and wait until they came out and we just shot them.
    If anyone has seen foxes killing lambs as they are being born you will know why they are deemed pests.

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    • 263
      SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

      I don’t see a problem if you are against hunting, easy, DON’T FUCKING HUNT but don’t interfere with the pleasures of others 1

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  82. 261
    Anonymous says:

    Why are there so many animal abusers here.

    Like

    • 264
      SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

      Because we stopped crying over ‘BAMBI’ when we grew up .

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      • 273
        Anonymous says:

        So when are you going to grow up then?

        Like

      • 275
        Anonymous says:

        I do love when animal abuser’s make the ignorant assumption that everyone in the countryside supports cruelty and everyone opposing it lives in the towns.☺

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  83. 266
    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    Why don’t the bunny huggers stand outside East London mosque with their banners protesting about halal slaughter , what are they afraid of !

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  84. 271
    Dean says:

    Bloody townies, they’re the first to be on the blower to the exterminator if they see rats, cockroaches or ants in their homes and you don’t see us country folk telling them what they can and can’t do. Double standards

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  85. 276
    Anonymous says:

    Why do animal abusers make the ignorant assumption all animal lovers live in the towns and everybody in the countryside loves animal cruelty?

    Like

  86. 278

    Next week’s sponsored column will be brought to you by Greenpeace, Amnesty International and the Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants

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    • 329
      Be honest, it's "James" really isn't it? says:

      Wouldn’t that be wonderful, all those rent-seeking organisations paying to put a column on a site where they probably won’t win a single convert?

      Like

  87. 285
    Anonymous says:

    Thank-you so much for not judging people based on their skin colour

    Like

  88. 287
    Karl says:

    Whipping anti’s should be an Olympic sport.

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  89. 292
    Anonymous says:

    Good luck with that given we make up the majority of this countries population.

    Like

  90. 294
    Anonymous says:

    So these folk want packs of wild dogs roaming towns. Fuckity bye

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  91. 298
    Anonymous says:

    Given there are no wild dogs in the UK that hunt in packs i wouldn’t know.

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  92. 305
    Truthteller says:

    Nah!!! F-ing Foxes.

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  93. 306
    Word 4 Word says:

    “Blood•ing: noun Chiefly British.
    (in fox hunting) an informal initiation ceremony in which the face of a novice is smeared with the blood of the first fox that person has seen killed.” Dictionary.com

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  94. 309
    Abu Q'tard says:

    Look
    all this left / right nonsense should stop now

    The country belongs to us
    what happens to foxes is a matter for the Sharia courts

    please to stop arguing

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  95. 325
    Jonno says:

    ‘Sponsored post’, so who cares, it’s an advert.

    Like


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You know where the animals are looking through the Farmhouse window?

My TV screen was that window at lunch-time today.

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