March 20th, 2014

Tom Watson Calls for Regulation of State Hand Out Spending

Tom Watson has put his grubby statist fingers to keyboard in order slam the government’s pension plans:

“People will tell you that ‘it’s your money, you should decide how to spend it’.  The whole point is that it just isn’t that simple.  Yes, you paid in.  But so did the taxpayer.  And the government has every right, therefore, to ask that you spend it in the manner it was intended when we were stumping up the cash.”

Just imagine how Tommy would be whining and moaning if that exact argument was made about controlling how people who are on benefits spend their money. The natural extension of this is to regulate anyone in receipt of state-handouts.

What happens to people spending child benefit on fags and booze?

Or JSA on flatscreen TVs?

Or disability benefits on Fixed Odd Betting Terminals?

When Tory MP Alec Shelbrooke suggested plans to regulate how money is spent Labour and their supporters accused him breaching the Human Rights Act, and called the idea “undignified”, “intrusive” and “damaging”. Yet Watson claims the “government has every right, therefore, to ask that you spend it in the manner it was intended?”


152 Comments

  1. 1
    Labour Fucktards says:

    What a shocker – a fat socialist cnut is a complete hypocrite.
    Why does anyone pay any attention to the idiotic wanker?

  2. 2
    Anonymous says:

    So the fat slug has crawled out from under its stone.

  3. 3
    Táxpáyér says:

    I’d support those in the failure -reward system getting non-monetary benefits like shelter and food-delivered.

    No cash.

  4. 4
    Anonymous says:

    “Tom Watson Calls for Regulation of State Hand Out Spending”
    and banking?

  5. 5
    You DM Reporter Guido says:

    Guido, it’s 2014 – there are no other sorts of television than flat screen ones. I suppose they are colour ones too!

  6. 6
    Labour=Waste says:

    The mask is slipping. Labour cannot accept people spending their own money as they choose.

  7. 7
    Táxpáyér says:

    >Yes, you paid in. But so did the taxpayer.

    Patently wrong. Pensions tax relief is deferred taxation.

  8. 8
    WTC Building 7 says:

    I saw two young chavs walking down a road at 15:00 yesterday with cans of Stella in hand…and neither looked like they had a care in the world.

  9. 9
    Táxpáyér says:

    That is THE defining narcissistic trait of marxist insanity.

  10. 10
    Tom Fatson says:

    Let no-one dare to ask me how I will spend my Taxpayer-funded, gold-plated, House of Commons final salary pension or there will be trouble.

  11. 11
    sheppane says:

    Not that you are any way surprised by this Hypocracy… or for that matter any of the other incoherant rubbish that comes from the mouths of representatives of the co-operative and labour party.

  12. 12
    Táxpáyér says:

    Except if you’ve paid in long enough in NI etc to build up a surplus.

  13. 13
    Jiminy the Cricket says:

    I see Evan Davies was continuing the lie with Ed Ballsup on Today re the so called Bedroom Tax.

  14. 14
    Harbottle says:

    It’s my money fatso and what’s more I will still have to pay have to tax on anything I draw down under normal income tax rules.

  15. 15
    Aaron D Highside. says:

    I paid for that ice cream.

  16. 16
    chriselee says:

    I want to spend my pension on as many 99’s as I can stuff into my face and get as fat as Twatson.

  17. 17
    T.B£iar - the People's Messiah says:

    Who needs a pension when people pay gigantic amounts of money just to hear me lying through my teeth ? :)

  18. 18
    #harrietharmanresign says:

    Has he asked Harriet Harman to resign yet?

  19. 19
    bergen says:

    Quite apart from the extreme imbecility of his remarks, it’s a wonderful way to lose votes. That’s a quote for the filing cabinet to be brought out and re-aired to pensioners a year next May.

  20. 20
    Nick & Danny confronted about Pedo Rings outside Parliament says:

  21. 21
    Taxpayer says:

    Ok, so seeing as the fat hypocritical tosser’s salary is paid by my taxes I want his spending regulated.

  22. 22
    Executive Summary says:

    Tom Watson is a fat hypocritical piece of shit.

  23. 23
    Fubar Saunders says:

    Watson is a dick.

  24. 24
    Couch Dauphinoise Potato says:

    Perhaps you should set your sights a little lower and join them. You sound like an utter malcontent.

  25. 25
    Bill Quango MP says:

    Talking of 99p flakes

  26. 26
    Anonymous says:

    He’s just a fat git!!!

  27. 27
    Jaco says:

    Typical of Labour – the taxpayer does not contribute to pensions they are simply under certain rules not subject to tax. A little bit like MPS expenses…

  28. 28
  29. 29
    Elementary, My Dear Watson says:

    “Yes, you paid in. But so did the taxpayer.”

    Eh? The taxpayer didn’t “pay in”, the government merely allowed people to save their income for retirement without taxing it.

    It shows Labour’s warped mentality that not taxing something for a change makes them think they’re still entitled to control it.

  30. 30
    Cathy Ashton, Chief Pygmy says:

    I have convened a meeting of pygmies today in Brussels

    All the chairs have been lowered so that they can see eachother

  31. 31
    Are Labour Stupid, Lying or Both? says:

    The taxpayer has not stumped up any money for my pension fund, you fat idiot. I have simply not been taxed on income I haven’t had yet. I will be taxed on my pension when I receive it.

  32. 32
    alister says:

    How did the taxpayer pay in to my pension? The total involvement was NOT to tax the money that I and my employer paid in. It’s my money, I’ve the payslips to prove it was deducted from my pay packet, you moron. If I hadn’t earned it I couldn’t have paid it in, or do you think someone just turned up and gave me a shed load of cash? I could have taken the cash and spent it but I saved it, now you think you have the right to say it’s NOT my money?????

  33. 33
    Táxpáyér says:

    and they tax it via income tax and VAT on the way out.

  34. 34
    IMF spokesman says:

    You, the taxpayers, will have to provide billions for Ukraine as well

    While the billionaire pillaging oligarchs buy up your mansions in London

  35. 35
    jgm2 says:

    This c*unt needs retuning.

    Not taxing people is not the same as giving them taxpayer’s money.

    Taking this c*unts argument to its logical conclusion he sees all your money as state money that simply hasn’t been taken off you. Yet. A ‘taxpayer subsidy’ in other words.

    The problem is that most Labour voters are too fucking stupid to realise what Watson is saying whereas the really dangerous ones do realise and actually fucking well believe it too.

  36. 36
    I hate Labour says:

    Labour are fascists who want unlimited spending on benefits for layabouts to keep their voter base happy, while controlling and dictating what workers and earners can and can’t do.

  37. 37
    Toxic Tories for Landowning Spongers, Parasites, Criminals, Peedos, & other Wasters says:

    Hey… Come join our hedge fund. It’s great. Like REALLY great. We’ve got wall to wall PS4 on our terminals and personal shoppers and we converted one floor into an ozone pool staffed by playhouse bunnies. And man our dealer does deals on wheels, for those, tight like moments, know what I mean

  38. 38
    Ed Miliband says:

    If this country didn’t have a COST OF LIVING CRISIS , Tom there would be enjoying a Double 99.

  39. 39
    Ellie-Mae (9) says:

    Moby

  40. 40
    Labour want us all to be babies says:

    Labour cannot stand the idea of people making their own decisions. It is as simple as that.

  41. 41
    George Osborne bingo caller says:

    Watson is 28 Over Weight

  42. 42
    chriselee says:

    Watson,my dear chap,you’ve got it in a nutshell.

  43. 43
    sheppane says:

    ”At Cornell University, they have an incredible piece of scientific equiptment know as a tunnelling electron microscope. This Microscope is so powerful, that by firing electrons, you can actually see images of an atom, the infinite decimally minute building block of our universe. Tom, if I were using that microscope right now, I still would not be able to locate my interest in your opinion on this, or any other matter”

  44. 44
    The Draconian says:

    Pension savings are your own money that you put aside. It’s your money from your own work.

    We should stop paying out benefits in 100% cash and give the needy food vouchers to stop people wasting their benefits on booze, cigarettes, drugs, gambling and satellite sports TV.

    Watson should investigate this waste urgently rather than trying to steal other people’s retirement savings.

  45. 45
    Twatson is right says:

    It’s a good idea from Twatson. Benefit money should be spent on food and board.

    It isn’t mostly and that’s why they should issue benefit tokens and not money.

  46. 46
    carlo gambino says:

    A fat trougher on a(n extremely generous) defined benefit scheme trying to tell those on a (not very generous at all) defined contribution scheme how to spend their money.

    We’re all in this together eh.

  47. 47
    Spoonface Cameroon says:

    Bankers and oligarchs are untouchable in Britain

    The Cabinet Secretary, seconded from Morgan Stanley, and Tony Blair, world famous pimp of oligarchs and bankers, have guaranteed me £10 million per annum when I am kicked out next year

  48. 48
    The British Public says:

    He doesn’t need a Flake because he’s so flakey

  49. 49
    A.N. Voter says:

    Sick & tired of the same old “it’s their fault” attitude by the Tories. When they were gifted power by the duplicitous Cleg thay inherited a country admittedly in trouble, but with an economy that was growing. They promptly choked off this growth & to date have borrowed more in the short time they’ve been in power than Labour did in 13 years ! Don’t forget that it also costs us MORE to borrow now because Gormless Gideon lost our triple star rating. I bet he had a proper accountant to manage his allowance when he was at school.
    Let’s face it, if you have a Prime Minister who has never had a real job, just one in “spin” gifted to him by a royal connection, and a Chancellor with absolutely NO economic qualifications, who actually gave up PPE at Oxford (Politics, Philosophy & Economics too hard for the poor lad ?) and ended up with a 2nd in Modern History, what are you going to have in government – as Baroness Warsi put it – an Eton Mess !
    Loved the way Gove was hidden away during the Budget speech – until some kind Labourites pointed him out, hidden behind a chair ! As they put it – “on the naughty stair”.

  50. 50
    Lord Stansted says:

    There is my kind of television – NOTV

  51. 51
    Bingo! says:

    At the back of the Budget book, there’s this chilling paragraph: “The Government will modernise and strengthen HMRC’s debt collection powers to recover financial assets from the bank accounts of debtors who owe over £1,000 of tax.”

    Make no mistake, this is a huge change – a “power grab” according to Politics.co.uk. At the moment, if HMRC want to seize your property or cash, they have to take you to court, win and then get a court order. Now, they apparently can do it at the flick of a switch. Crucially, there’s no safeguard built into this system – there’s no evidence of appeal process.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/willardfoxton2/100012871/did-you-spot-this-budget-gives-hmrc-power-to-raid-your-bank-account-like-wonga/

  52. 52
    Spoonface Cameroon says:

    My family prefer windmills actually

    State guaranteed income for life

  53. 53
    Lord Stansted says:

    I wonder if Labour will tell the guy who recently won over £100m on the euro lottery how to spend it!

  54. 54
    Sick of the greed and lies(still) says:

    The stone would have to be huge to hide that carcass!

  55. 55
    Ukrainian Provisional Government says:

    We are pleased to announce that we will be holding joint military exercises with the UK and USA, as part of which St. Anthony Bliar will be sent to invade Russia at the head of a special suicide squad trained in unarmed combat.

  56. 56
    Joe Kerr says:

    Tom Watson reminds me of the fat, greasy, corrupt policeman in Batman who pushes his luck and ends up being shot dead by Jack Nicholson. I can dream, can’t I?

  57. 57
    City banker says:

    Steady on Guido

    There must be no limit on state handouts when we next go bust

  58. 58
    DOS Attack says:

    I have left a suitable comment on Mr Watson’s blog, but for some reason it has not appeared !!!

    Maybe others should try and see if they get the same problem?

    http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2014/03/why-labour-has-to-oppose-osbornes-tax-bribe-over-pensions

  59. 59
    Lord Stansted says:

    Evan Davies is a typical beeboid. Too useless to have any other job and too thick to do the job he’s got.

  60. 60
    A.N. Voter says:

    Thought you were libertarians on here. Now you want the state to decide what you spend your benefits on.
    Would a book be allowed by you? Would you stop us buying the Mirror or the Morning Star?

  61. 61
    jgm2 says:

    They really hate the idea of people getting a silly notion into their heads that their own money is their own money.

    But it’s a fair warning.

    You can see which way Labour is leaning with this. All that pension money, as far as they’re concerned is ‘untaxed’ and so eligible for a one-off 40% or 45% looting.

  62. 62
    Nick Clegg says:

    Is there some kind of competition going on to try and lose the next election?

  63. 63
    domino says:

    Rich coming from someone paid by us, how about we tell you how to spend it and what we expect for it…like representative Government in the UK not from Brussels.

  64. 64
    Michael Gove says:

    I quite agree

    The Tory Party should be a broad based party

    Enough of this privileged scum who call the rest of us “they” or “plebs”

  65. 65
    Tom Watson's rapid rebuttal unit says:

    That was fucking shit! It doesn’t even make sense? if you fucking gormless unpaid interns want to get your taxpayer funded kitkats and cola then you’d better start producing better responses than this shit.

  66. 66
    Tony E says:

    How did the taxpayer contribute to your pension? Simply by not stealing any more than they do now of your saved earnings?

    Not robbing someone is now classed as ‘Contribution’.

    Fuck me, what has this country become?

  67. 67
    Wogna says:

    Pah. We raid bank accounts already.

  68. 68
    A Cathode ray tube says:

    We’re in very short supply these days.

  69. 69
    My demands says:

    Whichever party can promise me a genuine cap on immigration and welfare, tax cuts and a soapy tit wank from Nigella Lawson will get my vote.

  70. 70
    Ctesibius says:

    Yes Taxpayer you are right. What Tom Watson has said is COMPLETE NONSENSE. If he was a ‘banker’ he would now be fined for mis-selling.

    What Wattie says is “Yes, you paid in. But so did the taxpayer”. The taxpayer does not pay one penny in to anyone’s pension fund. All that happens is that the State doesn’t tax them on money they pay in to it.

    It is frightening that the guy is so ignorant that he can make this comment. It is also frightening that a Labour MP genuinely thinks that NOT confiscating something that belongs to someone else is a gift!

  71. 71
    eye watering says:

    Lib=Lab=Con

    Vote UKIP.

  72. 72
    jgm2 says:

    It’s the counter argument to Watson declaring that pension money doesn’t belong to the pensioner and must be spent in a manner dictated by him.

  73. 73
    Wõgna says:

    Pah. We raid bank accounts already.

  74. 74
    Blood on my Hands B£iar says:

    I think you need Cherei for this job. Contact her on http://www.cherieblair.org

  75. 75
    Bill Quango MP says:

    Yes.

    And you won.

  76. 76
    The British Public says:

    Gordon Brown didn’t have any economic expertise either and that showed. But Ed Balls does and look at his legacy of ruin and disaster! Ed Miliband has never lived in the real world, yet alone worked in it.

    Note Britain’s deficit is so big because of Labour’s wild spending spree and their huge banking crisis. That’s why borrowing is so big now. Imagine if someone burned your house down, you’d need years to rebuild it.

  77. 77
    jgm2 says:

    Except, astonishingly they didn’t ‘choke off this growth’. There was no double dip or triple dip recession despite Brown’s best efforts to blow all the cash.

  78. 78
    A Chair lowerer says:

    150,000 euros please.

  79. 79
    Pause for thought says:

    …err, you might have a point there.

  80. 80
    Dorkass says:

    Mmmmmm Corporatist-fascist hypocracy. I like it. Or rather, as a political system, not so much.

  81. 81
    Bingo Numbers says:

    Thank God, it’s a 99 – you’ll need mind bleach to imagine fatto having a 69.

  82. 82
    jgm2 says:

    Now that is far more worth getting excited about than 1p off a pint. That’s a potential fucking nightmare.

  83. 83
    A BBC Revisionist says:

    Wanna bet?

  84. 84
    jgm2 says:

    Do you see that ice-cream?

    He expensed that.

  85. 85
    Táxpáyér says:

    They didn’t decide to fund the bennies in the first place, they were extorted from the taxpayer, so shouldn’t the taxpayer have a say in how they are used?

  86. 86
    Pause for thought says:

    …and he’s a shirt-lifter.

  87. 87
    Willie Warmer says:

    Just worked out the rational in releasing the cash pots rather than strapped into an annuity. Bit cynical, but, a hell of a lot of cash released into the economy, new cars, houses being renovated, holidays. Short term gain long term disaster?

  88. 88
    Paniagua V5.1 says:

    Labour splitting the Libdem non vote.

  89. 89
    Nicola Sturgeon says:

    In Scotland we decide to spend your money on “free” drugs to (a) keep you docile and (b) prop up the English pharmaceutical industry.
    We don’t anticipate the working classes living to draw a pension.

  90. 90
    Táxpáyér says:

    In fact deliver bus tickets and healthy food for welfare peeps to cook.

  91. 91
    Labour says:

    We simply have no answers and nothing to offer the UK.

  92. 92
    Kent Brockman says:

    I for one welcome our new Labour overlords.

  93. 93
    Cyprus says:

    Tell us about it.

  94. 94
    Táxpáyér says:

    Well the cons did use the same trick as gordon and just printed cash to create potemkin growth (mostly landed straight into land prices where it will harm the country).

  95. 95
    Anonymous says:

    You wouldn’t be able to locate his brain either.

  96. 96
    Táxpáyér says:

    Wasn’t there some Magna Carta document?

  97. 97
    Paniagua V5.1 says:

    Does a double 99 mean he has changed hands twice?

  98. 98
    Richard Branson says:

    Good job I own my own bank then.

  99. 99
    They're all the fucking same says:

    Did you spot this? Budget gives HMRC power to raid your bank account – like Wonga

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/willardfoxton2/100012871/did-you-spot-this-budget-gives-hmrc-power-to-raid-your-bank-account-like-wonga/

  100. 100
    M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

    Only one taxpayer contributed to your pension scheme – yourself. If you don’t pay tax, you don’t get a tax “contribution”.

  101. 101
    Pensions Company Executive says:

    It means immediately taxable income (excluding 25% tax-free) instead of pension funds keeping the money, paying rubbish annuities, and pretending their profits are not really taxable profits but actually massive liabilities for paying future annuities to people who will live to 255 years of age.
    Terrible idea. I hope it gets watered down.

  102. 102
    Amazon says:

    Won’t apply to us.

  103. 103
    Tony Blair says:

    War!
    Huh!
    Good god y’all!
    What is it good for?

    Making me very rich, keeping Cherie in a steady supply of Jimmy Choo shoes, and securing a nice safe seat for my son, who’s just as smug, smarmy and sociopathic as me. What is important is.

  104. 104
    jgm2 says:

    The problem real pensioners with real pension funds have is that money actually exists. It can be stolen by the likes of Watson.

    The problem is that it literally costs Watson and his ilk nothing to steal your money because MPs (and other public sector workers) don’t actually have a fund to loot. Their pension fund doesn’t exist. So if Watson et al steal 40% of your pension money then you will have 40% less pension. But since their pension fund doesn’t exist they will still be ‘entitled’ to 100% of their Final Salary scheme.

    Be afraid.

  105. 105
    C O (Ξ7g) says:

    Well, if government wants to be responsible with controlling what people spend their money on, then a good policy would be to deter from buying plasma TV’s and all that crap (nothing worth watching), and encourage folk to invest in firearms.

    With the R’ussian’s getting all ‘world dominatey’ and UK armed services being a bit underfunded, a strong fully armed civilian militia is required to defend the realm, and get rid of these turbulent socialists.

  106. 106
    M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

    Think again. Annuities are a rip off so if you are given other options annuity providers might start providing worthwhile products.

    Do you seriously think someone who has been saving all their lives so that they might enjoy their retirement would suddenly blow the lot like some chav who’s won the lottery?

    If anyone wants early access to tax free cash then there is already a means – ISAs.

  107. 107
    P l e b says:

    See 51 above

  108. 108
    White Flight says:

    massive one!

  109. 109
    Dangerous Brian says:

    However I still do take my pension as I earned it from my years of dedicated service to the betterment of our great country.

  110. 110
    M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

    It’s a reverse bedroom tax.

  111. 111
    Cynic2 says:

    If they spend it we cant steal it!!!

  112. 112
    RagingBull says:

    No more food for a start, he’s need to go on an enforced diet for his own health and wellbeing.

  113. 113
    Dangerous Brian says:

    That was Broons philosophy too as I remember it, anyone else see a thread here?

  114. 114
    bergen says:

    Sadly the ludicrous fat twat genuinely believes in that logical conclusion because he and his friends and family live entirely off the state.

  115. 115
    M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

    It’s like this in Norway. The government has access to you bank account and can help itself to any unpaid tax.

    As if the state of the blue-eyed Arabs didn’t have enough powers.

  116. 116
    Jon says:

    I’ve just posted on Tom’s blog. I assume he won’t let the comment on.

    You’re in receipt of our taxes too, Tom. I’d like you to spend your entire salary on Cadbury’s Creme Eggs this month, please as you can’t be trusted to decide on your own what you spend your money on.

    I’ll let you know what you’re allowed to spend next month’s salary on soon.

  117. 117
    Gerbil 7 says:

    Did he spout this bollocks as he detected the slightest danger that the general public might forget who he is?

  118. 118
    jgm2 says:

    Nice one.

  119. 119
    FFS says:

    But doesn’t he already spend his whole salary on Crème Eggs?

    Why not make it Curly Kale: that would really piss the fat fucker off?

  120. 120
    RagingBull says:

    Exactly, these people who have had the financial sense to ensure that they have money saved for themselves to enjoy in their retirement are not going to be the type to go on a wild spending spree as if they are some 20 year old who has just won the lottery! It’s an insult to suggest that that would be the case. They could have spent the money as soon as they’d earnt it, but had the nous to keep it for the future.

    This change is the right move and will give people the freedom and choice to decide what to do with THEIR money. That’s quite simply the way it should be in a democracy.

  121. 121
    Right Full Rudder says:

    “Yes, you paid in. But so did the taxpayer.”

    Errr…

    Left wingers really, truly don’t grasp who the taxpayer is, do they? Even the brighter ones like Watson. They think it’s the enchanted pixie who knows where the magic money tree is.

  122. 122
    Observant says:

    You don’t need a pension you fat cnut, just keep eating as much as you can trough and i am sure an early ischemic event will help save the public purse a penny or two.

  123. 123
    Lizzie says:

    I wonder if it has occurred to him that his own Parliamentary pension has been completely paid for by taxpayers …. though the idea that the government should be able to give people like Watson a dose of their own medicine once they retire does have its attractions one much admit, so long as we introduce a compulsory retirement age for them.

  124. 124
    Min Clifford says:

    Wow on that scale my nob would be titanic.

  125. 125
    PC Dixon says:

    Watson – Two faced hypocritical prat – all normal stuff from the worm.

  126. 126
    Observant says:

    Bus ticket ‘Au Gratin’?

  127. 127
    Lady in Red says:

    Get your grubby mitts of my knee pal or I’ll tip this orange over your stupid head and bash you with the empty…

  128. 128
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Talk about kettle, pot, black!

    Perhaps we, the public, could reciprocate and ask the Government to spend our taxes in the way they were intended, ie. NOT on MP’s expenses and gold plated pensions.

    People in glass houses……

  129. 129
    Lady in Red says:

    Has nobody told him that his fat bloated salary is also a ‘State Handout’? Where else does he think it comes from? The money tree?

  130. 130
    Lady in Red says:

    Anyone seen my nutcrackers?

  131. 131
    Lady in Red says:

    … should always wear clean underwear?

  132. 132

    “…the government has every right, therefore, to ask that you spend it in the manner it was intended when we were stumping up the cash.”

    We?

    Who the fuck is this “we”?

  133. 133
    Anonymous says:

    Hypocrisy. Incoherent. 1/10 see me.

  134. 134
    inside out says:

    Taxed at 20%on way into pension,but taxed on way out as well.Better off with ISA taxed on way in untaxed on way out.Some who have invested well have ISA pots of more than£1 million.Problem is when you die tax free status dies with you.Unless you cash everything in and store under the bed in £50 notes.

  135. 135
    Jo says:

    Wow! The guy who claimed the maximum £4,800 allowance of TAXPAYER money on food in a single year to fill his chubby cheeks and another £100,000 to pimp his London apartment is trying to tell us TAXPAYERS why we shouldn’t be allowed access to the money we saved.
    Unlike you Tom, us normal working folks -TAXPAYERS – can’t use taxes to pay our food bills or do up our homes so maybe getting something back from our pensions before you lot piss it up the wall is only fair.

  136. 136
    Justin Case says:

    Come away – stop being rude and cruel by taunting the silly fat boy. He can’t help being a moronic pile of lefty blubber. Oops.

  137. 137
    Cheesy Wotsit says:

    I spend all my bennies on pies, pies & more pies.

  138. 138
    I dislike socialists intensely says:

    Tom Watson ,another reason to never vote Labour .

  139. 139
    Colonel Mustard says:

    It is was what my employer (not HMG) paid to help support me in my dotage – not to support HMG with cheap money and Ed Balls brother (and his mates) with their bonuses.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550127/Ed-Ballss-whizzkid-brother-lands-4-5m-bonus-Why-Shadow-Chancellors-soak-rich-50p-tax-threatens-one-high-earner-close-home.html

  140. 140
    Anonymous says:

    Typical socialist b***s***t If the idiot knew what he was talking about he would know that the only tax payers money going into pensions is the tax relief on the contributions which are then taken back at when the pension is paid and this could be at 45%.

  141. 141
    millipede his panzer-gain says:

    That nobody wants!

  142. 142
    All socialists are vermin says:

    He’s a fat Hunt who needs a meat hook through the jaw and then drag the filth off to the nearest furnace.

  143. 143
    All socialists are vermin says:

    I typed Hunt not hunt

  144. 144
    All socialists are vermin says:

    Alright I typed bunt not hunt

  145. 145
    IAC says:

    The principle on pensions used to be that you paid tax on the money when you take it (often at a lower rate) not when you put it in the pot. The taxman is not putting in at all.

  146. 146
    broderick crawford says:

    the logical corollary of the twatson argument is that all ” entitlements” from the State come with caveats .

    Thus we the people should have a veto on mp s and their cohorts salaries and expense clains and retain the right to vest them on a drip feed basis at some point in the future dependent on the retrospective sagacity –or otherwise– of their decisiobs whilst in service . Similarly all expense claims shoukd be deferred and an annuity purchased with them on the officisls 75 th birthday.

    How d yah like dem apples TWATSON !!

  147. 147
    Phuquit says:

    I don’t think that anyone pays attention to the idiotic wanker, except Guido when there’s a shortage of news.

  148. 148
    Dessert Rat says:

    Fat useless twat!

  149. 149
    Scopes says:

    Following on with this dipshits logic I want a say in how this fat turd spends every bloody penny of HIS pension.

    After all I fucking contributed to all of his , not just the microscopic bit his mate McRuin decided I was entitled to.

    The man’s a prick

  150. 150
    Captn P says:

    Interesting how my tax contribution isn’t “my” money. I think this is another deficit vs. debt point.

    The tax money I pay to you fuckers in government is my money, not yours.

  151. 151
    Anonymous says:

    Sounds easy to fix. Spend it like a pension or forfeit the tax relief. This isn’t being done for hard working savers, like Help to Buy George wants lots of big ticket spending and a feel good factor in time for the election. Boom and Bust again.

  152. 152
    Anonymous says:

    Oh yes. I saved for decades to provide a modest private pension. Yes, I got tax relief on my contributions

    Then I got my annuity which gives me the same amount as I earned in the morning

    Then it is taxed at 40 %

    So, Tom Watson can tell me what to spend my £24 on each month.


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