March 12th, 2014

Miliband Bottles EU Referendum

Back in 2011 Guido recommended that Miliband call for an in/out EU referendum. It would have helped him make an impact with ordinary, sensible voters, distanced himself from Brown and Blair and wounded “cast iron” Cameron over his failure to keep his own referendum promise. Today’s announcement confirms that an in/out referendum would be “unlikely” under a Labour government. Miliband is ruling out a vote unless “significant” treaty changes are proposed. The Labour leader had the chance to lead on this issue, to outflank the Tories and offer voters something clear and definitive. Instead he has given them a deliberately vague fudge. Miliband says this morning that “you can’t trust the Tories on Europe”. He is the man who doesn’t trust the people on Europe… 


  1. 1
    Jet Stream says:

    Lefties think they know best

  2. 2
    The Wrong Miliband says:

    You oiks can’t have a referendum on the EU – we haven’t got the money to pay the envelope-stuffers in Lahore.

  3. 3
    Steve Miliband says:

    It’s an okey-cokey position

  4. 4
    Anonymous says:

    Ed has no political instincts whatsoever, so now after putting his cards on the table, he has handed Cameron a hammer to bludgeon him with and Cameron can go the full hog and blame Labour not giving the people a say.

    Seriously they voted ED as leader and got some version of a wet lettuce.

  5. 5
    thostids says:

    As it is the mantra of the 2 main parties that a “transfer of further powers” to Brussels will trigger an In/out referendum, one is driven to the ineluctable conclusion that we ain’t got no powers left to transfer, or those left behind after Lisbon aren’t worth having or subject to EU oversight.
    Vote Out – Vote UKIP.

  6. 6
    RomaBob... says:

    Steady on there we resemble that remark.

  7. 7
    Lord Swanbourne says:

    Yeah but no but, yeah but no but…

  8. 8
    Shooty* says:

    BBC going massively overboard on leftie-ness this morning. It’s incredible. Leading the news with this non-story of the gimpy one being overly cerebral, hyping the clearly flawed and doomed Co-Op business model and asking George Soros about the dangers of extreme right wingers and how to stop horrid “populist” politics.

    1. When did populism become a dirty word? Elections mean populism.
    2. What about extreme left wingers, BBC? Are they not a problem?

  9. 9
    Piss-poor Comedian says:

    They’re too busy filling in the postal votes for 2015

  10. 10
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    I told you Miliband was leading Labour to their worst ever defeat.

    With 2 tax cutting budgets from Osborne to come and the economy booming, get down the bookies quick and put a bet on a Tory landslide before they slash the odds :-)

  11. 11
    Anonymous says:

    Happy to frighten business with price controls but not with a referendum. 2 out of 10 ed, 2 out of 10!

  12. 12
    Anus BBC Cunt says:

    we all know this shitstain will be ruinous for England

    However we all also know the vast hordes professional benefits scroungers and public sector paper shufflers will vote him and his gang of filth in, with a very healthy majority.

    The unthinking vermin are incapable of accepting Labour are criminally incompetant.

    Just as in 1997, these filth will inherit a growing economy, so it will take them may years to destroy the economy.

    It will be good entertainment watching them wreck the economy again though

  13. 13
    Anonymous says:

    Probably just handed Cameron the election in 2015 in reality, Cameron can now promise more of a referendum as he can now say.

    1 Lab and LD’s blocked his offer of a referendum.
    2 Only way to get a referendum now is to vote ukip and force tories into a pact
    3 Cameron will say, only way to get a referendum is to give us a tory majority.

    Milliband has kicked a massive own goal.

  14. 14
    Tom Catesby says:

    I shouldn’t think anybody is surprised by Milliband’s statement, certainly not on this website. Another nail in Ed and Liebore’s coffin?

  15. 15
    Sandalista says:

    Well that has shot the UKIP fox for sure

  16. 16
    Nick Clegg says:

    Excuse me, but the LibDems are the only party who do not trust the electorate.

    Vote LibDem.

  17. 17
    Tom Catesby says:

    I should think they re criminally very competant.

  18. 18
    Ed Miliband says:

    Computer says no.

  19. 19
    Cast Iron Dave - Labour Stooge says:

    Just wanted to add …

    4. Referendum results are not subject to legitimate expectation.

  20. 20
    Gerbil 7 says:

    Fuck off Beaker.

  21. 21
    Ex Labour says:

    It’s simple politics and economics:
    EU membership benefits the rich at the expense of the Workers.

  22. 22
    Tony says:

    Wet lettuce indeed. weak and clueless

  23. 23
    jgm2 says:

    Ed’s promise is not subject to legitimate expectation.

  24. 24
    Twampersand mk III says:

    Hung Parliament, LibLab coalition, back to the seventies is the most likely outcome. There is no way Cameron will win a majority, no chance.

  25. 25
    Anonymous says:

    I think you should both learn to spell competent

  26. 26
    Gerbil 7 says:

    Radio 2 played ‘Part of the union’ by the Strawbs today.
    I hate the BBC

  27. 27
    ex-Co-Op bloke says:

    I’m out.

  28. 28
    Anonymous says:

    None of the Westminster party leaders can afford to make credible promises of a referendum or any other act which would undermine or risk our membership of the EU. Any of them who did that would soon cease to be a party leader.

    Cameron’s promise is so contingent it really does not matter to the British voters: it depends on a Conservative majority after the next GE big enough to out-vote the other parties plus its own Europhile MPs and Peers. Cameron is already committeed to campaign for a STAY IN decision and EU funding is already flowing to pro-EU groups here.

    Miliband’s decsion is damaging to Labour which will lose more voters to UKIP but in all other ways it is irrelevant.

  29. 29
    Joe Public says:

    Listening to Danny Alexander wriggle on the hook on the Toady Programme this morning made us realise what a cowardly plonker Miliband is, and that Danny epitomizes why Scotland should vote YES and we can get rid of such pillocks as DA.

  30. 30
    Twampersand mk III says:

    You could learn punctuation, pedant.

  31. 31
    Gordon Brown-Stalin says:

    A future Labour Government would give voters an in/out referendum on whether to be part of Russia.

  32. 32
    Evan Davies - the BBC's man of the people says:

    I thought I did a wonderful simpering sniggering school swot performance with George Soros, who incidentally bet against the UK and WON. So there!
    Being a loony leftie that is totally in thrall to celebrity is what I do best.

  33. 33
    Ray Mears Fan says:

    Sadly this snivelling toad is going to be Britain’s next PM thanks to the UKIP Quislings

  34. 34
    Not listening says:

    Doesn’t matter at all. Any vote that we do not like the look of will be disregarded and called illegitimate or illegal. It’s what we do.

  35. 35
    Joe Public says:

    You are toooooo generous.
    3 months to come up with this straddling of the fence?
    Nul points.

  36. 36
    jgm2 says:

    This announcement by Ned is just confirmation that UKIP is taking votes off Labour too.

    No Tory is going to switch to Labour on the strength of this heavily caveated ‘promise’.

    But it might fool some Labour voters who were thinking of jumping ship.

    UKIP has Labour rattled and this is the best response Useless Ned can come up with.

    He really is shit isn’t he.

  37. 37
    Bleating Bollocks Corporation says:

    If you decriminalise the licence fee, we’ll have to cut our best channels (but not executive salaries or pensions).

  38. 38
    Ed (Too Fat must Fast for Flat Waistline) Balls says:

    And the earlier smarmy tones of Mandleson, he sounded like he has gone transgender!!

  39. 39
    Anonymous says:

    judge yesterday who prosecutes (both?) electoral fraud cases has called for postal voting to be ended except in justifiable cases.

  40. 40
    WAKE UP TIME!!!! says:

    Sky News interviewed John Mann this morning ans he said 70% of his constituents wanted a referendum on the EU

    Reasons being benefit tourism and agencies compressing wages. Millipeed is so out of touch its frightening. Traditional Labour voters need to wake up to the horror that will destroy the future of this country unless they change their voting habits. They need to think of their own children’s future, if nothing else.

    And will UKIP take us into two pointless wars and destroy our economy as did Bliar & Bruun? Even Dave wanted us dragged into another Islamic conflict.

  41. 41
    Stalin's Ghost. says:

    Good grief this idiot is trying to use my name – he has never had an original good idea ever, and never will.
    A curse on him and his family charity.

  42. 42
    Jimmy says:

    Ed sets out his position clearly

    Cameron ‘promises’ a referendum but will campaign to stay in, and even if the referendum takes place, which it won’t, and the populace vote to come out, Cameron will ignore the result.

    And you make the assumption Cameron will be leader in 2017, which he won’t.

  43. 43
    Spartacus says:

    not an in – out vote but instead ”a renegotiation of our relationship with the eu . . . ”

  44. 44
    Labour Tribal Voters. says:

    We simply want our social benefits and subsidies to be platinum plated guarranteed as FREE for ever.

  45. 45
    Fantastic Mr Fox says:

    Ha ha haa! Top of the morning to ya!

    About as effective as the badger cull

  46. 46
    jgm2 says:

    Labour promises are not subject to legitimate expectation.

    Brown established that Labour can lie with impunity.

    Labour are not to be trusted.

  47. 47
    Labour Tribal Voters. says:

    Poor Jimmy.
    Even for loyal Labour supporters your statement has no ring of truth about it.

  48. 48
    MR TICKLE says:

    ” Oh God, it’s happening to me now”

  49. 49
    Seventeen GCS's and still as thick as marmalade says:

    Even I am not fooled by Cameron’s promise of a fair and free vote on staying in or leaving the EU.

  50. 50
    ey up! says:

    Getting close to voting, so all the dreams, that’s all Liebour are allowed to have, are now coming out of Liebours mouthpiece the bBBC, Listening to some old radio hams (accidentally) on an old fogies network, it’s like listening to an era from 1997, Camoron if he was a PR guy got paid for nothing, his PR team he has now should be sacked, he is useless, Camorons Conservatives will lose in 2015, hopefully UKIP will take a load of votes and some seats and will come and win in 2020.

  51. 51
    John Ward says:

    Try finding out how much gold the Bank of England now holds. The BoE site runs you round in circles. Last year, strong rumours within the gold sector suggested that out of the 505,000 gold bars we held in February 2013, 105,000 had gone by June. Looking at FOI requests on the subject suggests that everyone else has the same problem as me: those in the know are concerned that we, um, shouldn’t know.

  52. 52
    Seventeen GCSE's and still as thick as marmalade says:

    GCSE’s, sorry.

  53. 53
    jgm2 says:

    Labour supporters aren’t interested in the truth. Labour supporters wouldn’t recognise the truth of it punched them in the face.

    They vote Labour because their dads did. That’s why they vote Labour.

    There’s no intellectual coherence beyond that.

    Labour have already lied about a referendum vote. And changing the electoral system.

    Labour are liars. But it doesn’t matter because 28% will always vote Labour. Because their dad did.

  54. 54
    jgm2 says:

    Here, have another GCSE.

  55. 55
    Good Post Geedo says:

    Well Done Guido. This is more like your former self.

  56. 56
    Sick of the greed and lies(still) says:

    “In out, in out, shake it all about”

  57. 57
    Ah! Wake up says: Islam, and think of your children’s future.

  58. 58
    thostids says:

    Ed should be viewed fulfilling a similar role to The Queen – it is not what he does whilst in Office but who he excludes from his Office. Given the popular perception that he is really Wallace without Gromit, we should ponder who is play the role of the beady-eyed interloper as in The Case of the Wrong Trousers? And who has been selected for the remainder of the Labour franchise after Wallace?

  59. 59
    Ah! come on says:

    Apologise for the apostrophe too.

  60. 60
    Jimmy says:

    Let’s have a look at some of Scameron’s weapons-grade lies:

    Lie 1: Three days before the election, David Cameron: “Any cabinet minister . who comes to me and says ‘Here are my plans’ and they involve front-line reductions, they’ll be sent straight back to their department to go away and think again”.

    Lie 2: A month before the election, David Cameron: “Our plans involve cutting wasteful spending, Our plans don’t involve an increase in VAT.”

    Lie 3: The coalition agreement: “We will stop top-down reorganisation of the NHS.”

    Lie 4: The coalition agreement: We will guarantee that health spending increases in real terms.”

    Lie 5: Two months before the election, from David Cameron: “I wouldn’t change child benefit, I wouldn’t means test it. I don’t think that’s a good idea.”

    Lie 6: Michael Gove, just before the election: “Ed Balls keeps saying that we are committed to scrapping EMA. I have never said this. We won’t.”

    Lie7: Liam Fox: “a bigger army for a safer Britain”, but it now loses 7,000 soldiers.

    Lie 8: In October 2009 George Osborne said: Retail banks should stop paying out significant cash bonuses. A year later, he opposed an updated EU Capital Requirement Directive intended to limit them.
    In 2013 he took a plane to Europe in bid to block a Europe-wide cap on bankers’ bonuses

    Lie 9: David Cameron: “Yes, we back Sure Start. It’s a disgrace that Gordon Brown has been trying to frighten people about this.” Yet the government’s Early Intervention Grant means a reduction of £1.4 billion in the amount given to early intervention programmes. As a result,More than 400 Sure Start children’s centres have closed during the first two years of coalition government.

    Lie 10 No cuts in tax credits for families with an income of less than £50,000;

    Lie 11 prison for anyone carrying a knife;

    Lie 12 no cuts to the navy;

    Lie 13 keeping the child trust fund for the poorest third of families;

    Lie 14 no hospital closures;

    Lie 15 3000 more midwives since 2010 they’ve created 1000. Lowering the shortage from 6,000 to 5,000.

  61. 61
    Gastropoda says:

    We’d love to have Ed for lunch. We could just gobble him up.

  62. 62
    11 letters. S---------t open to a massive degree of interpretation. says:

    By the way. Ed is offering nothing that he has to in law anyway. An EU referendum now has to be held if significant powers are transferred to Brussels.

    Of course the n1gger in the woodpile is “significant”.

  63. 63
    jgm2 says:

    You typed that out quickly.

  64. 64
    Schleppo says:

    So Cameron’s off to Izrael to suck a few cocks – eh?

  65. 65
    The Public says:

    What a hunt, typical millipede cant make his mind up on anything of real use

  66. 66
    Toxic Labour for Spongers, Parasites, Criminals, Peedos, Green Nazis & other Wasters says:

    Red Multimillionaireband will be in charge not you, the electorate. This is the type of scummy decision we’ve come to expect from these Socialist dictators.

  67. 67
    Anonymous says:

    I often think about those countries battling tyranny and despots demanding democracy.

    Then I think of our democracy.

    Be careful, very careful, what you wish for.

    You will just end up being ruled by a powerful elite any way that you can’t do anything about because , in the cold light of day, they really are all the same!

    Ordinary people have no power whatsoever, the elite have seen to that!

  68. 68
    jgm2 says:

    Let’s make it a round twenty GCSEs.

    Now, could you sweep up all the trimmings and then wash that lady’s hair please.

  69. 69
    The Public says:

    End postal voting full stop, cant get to the polling station, hard luck even if they are bed ridden.

  70. 70
    Anonymous says:

    must be from the cut and paste lab hq files.

  71. 71
    jgm2 says:

    Yvette Cooper will be opposition leader by June 2015.

  72. 72
    John from Hull says:

    If that oily Vaz comes round here I’ll teach him punctuation.

  73. 73
    Herman Van Morrison says:

    So what do you do now.
    Cameron isn’t going to win. UKIP aren’t going to get more than 2 MPs at most.
    Miliband will have a 40-50 majority and no need of the liberals, who anyway would back a NO REFERENDUM policy.

    So? No referendum for at least 10 years.
    And by then we will have added Ukrainians and Turks and the Romanians and Bulgarians will have filled up your cities.

    In 20 years time you will be so ‘integrated’ that us EU elite will no longer fear a referendum.

    You lost.

  74. 74
    jgm2 says:

    Exactly. It’s meaningless.

    It gives the impression of offering a referendum but isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. If he even bothers to print it.

  75. 75
    A nony mous says:

    The Leader of the CoOp resigned because it was ungovernable and unwilling to accept basic corporate governence.

    The CoOp and the Labour party are two peas in the same socialist pod.

  76. 76
    The public says:

    They aren’t though, are they? No police are whipping protesting punk girls in our streets. There is a world of difference.

    Its why the world’s poorest are desperate to come to our country. And why you live here and aren’t fleeing to Iran.

  77. 77
    Seventeen GCSEs and still as thick as marmalade says:

    Twenty GCSEs, scoff, that would make me a scientist?

  78. 78
    Gordon Brown's shed says:

    Hehehehe …

  79. 79
    Once it's gone, it's gone says:

    Would it not be better to hold any referendum before any powers are transferred?

    Also isn’t Lisbon written in such weasel words that most anything can be transferred to Brussels under it’s existing text, so they would not be transfers of new powers?

  80. 80
    Graham Swift says:

    I’m surprised that Militwat can actually spell ” significant “.

  81. 81
    well chuffed says:

    the new Michael Miles with the yes/no interlude. This is worth even less than Cameron’s cast iron guarantees if that were possible. So a significant change could trigger an in/out vote. What a load of ….. In/out is more a matter of disagreeing with the concept and or implementation of the EU. A significant change affects neither of those to a great degree. He is taking the yellow liquid.

  82. 82
    Graham Swift says:

    Try Douglas Alexander. Right surname, wrong Christian name.

  83. 83
    EU still dreams of conquering the world says:

    It’s not over until, your army has marched into our cities, London is lost for now, but patience is still a virtue, you still have to keep the British deadbeats supplied with Danegeld as with all the other conquered countries given away for money by the politicians, 1000 year reichs usually ends after 60 years, so will the EU.

  84. 84
    The real Van Morrison says:

    It’a almost Independence Day.

  85. 85
    wrinkledweasel says:

    The BBC are hiring, by the way:

    Product Manager, Connected Studio
    Apprentice Gardener
    Country Director, Tunisia
    Multimedia Producer, Russian Service
    YouTube Editor, Russian Service
    Senior Projects Manager, South Sudan
    Humanitarian Project Manager, South Sudan
    Finance Manager, South Sudan
    Adviser – Public Policy (Scotland)
    Social Newsgathering Producer, Brazilian Service

    PMO Manager – And here’s what it is:

    “The Television PMO works within BBC TV to understand the challenges
    being faced by the division and to support, assure and enable the
    delivery of solutions needed to keep BBC TV originating great content
    today and in the future. As ambassadors for change, we align and manage
    the collective transformation challenges that the Division faces,
    helping to drive and deliver change in alignment with TV’s objectives.”

  86. 86
    The Public says:


  87. 87
    posh london public scool boy pretending to live in doncaster says:

    obviously he’ll change that law if he gets in

  88. 88
    jgm2 says:

    He did the honourable thing. He could have floundered around for a year or two being completely ineffective and just taking the (considerable) money. Or, as he did, give it ‘Fuck this, life is too short to be wasting it dealing with jackasses like you lot.’

  89. 89
    M102 says:

    @ 78 he can’t say it though. ThignifiHunt.

  90. 90
    Appalling prospect says:

    Christ, that whiney bitch?

  91. 91
    Alex Salmon the Toad says:

    They did what?

  92. 92
    Shooty* says:

    And still everyone focussed on the romanians, ukrainians and bulgarians, when it’s the Peaceful Ones that everyone is really worried about. But we’re not allowed to say that.

  93. 93
    jgm2 says:

    What do we care? She can’t do any harm in opposition.

  94. 94
    Velly good says:

    ..or preferably fluctuasian!

  95. 95
    Anjem Choudary says:

    My favourite movie is One Million Years B.C. It’s the future, you know.

  96. 96
    Anonymous says:

    You miss the point entirely. What I want for this country is entirely different to what the elite want, but I can’t do any thing about it. I despise them all. And if I really told them what I think of them they would put me in jail just for my views, people like you are just pathetic arse wipers. Say the same when in 50 years the islamic flag flies over no 10.

  97. 97
    Anonymous says:

    “Miliband Bottles EU Referendum”
    yet somehow appears even less keen to sell it?
    Given that Dave’s, Nick’s and Ed’s personal ideological paradigms preclude normal operation of democracy’s primary tenet. (Policy selection by majority mandate). Here is an autocue prompt query, for Jezzer to address to Nigel: Is the proffered referendum a harbinger of things, and long overdue governance changes, to come? Or is it a one-off inducement to hook then reel in a floundering electorate, as the probable outcome suits your current agenda.

  98. 98
    Velly good but borling says:

    It is. I pop in here from time to time and I think this must be the tenth time – at least – that I have seen it posted.

  99. 99
    Vlad the Loudhailer says:

    Didn’t Labour promise stop boom and bust, not to introduce tuition fees and to be a breath of fresh air for a new form of politics. What did we get.

    Bankruptcy, 2 wars, tuition fees, sleaze by the truck load, postal voting, uncontrolled immigration and an education system where some people have no idea how many feet there are in a mile!

  100. 100
    PM in waiting (room on platform 10) says:

    Hey Len, did you slip that “not” into my speech when I wasn’t looking?

  101. 101
    Village Idiot says:

    ….Sounds’ reasonable!

  102. 102
    Fishy says:

    Cut and pated from last week….and the week before….and the week before that….and the week before that as well….and….

  103. 103
    A Kipper says:

    Legally we not HAVE to have a referendum to quit the EU.
    Just serve notice under section 50 and two years later we are out.

  104. 104
    A Kipper says:

    DUH – do not HAVE to HAVE Typo.

  105. 105
    Twampersand mk III says:

    We could just tell them to FRO and be out the same day.

  106. 106
    A nony mous says:

    If only MP’s were as principled as that young CEO was, instead of being money grabbing lying traitors who sell their country down the road for a few extra windmills on their farm, An EU pension and a couple of post parliament directorships of FTSE 100 companies.

  107. 107
    Anonymous says:

    A referendum in 2017 is just to appease those who’d vote UKIP. Dave will get no change to the arrangement by then so there is no point in having a vote in 2017 – all that will happen is that the party will once again tear itself apart. Miliband called this one right.

  108. 108
    Twampersand mk III says:

    Any Labour voters with enough braincells to actually consider voting for another party must also be able to see that this ‘promise’ is as much use as a chocolate teapot.

    Tories would be off the list for exactly the same reason, cast iron promises from another effete, bum-sexing muppet. Lib Dumbs are only going to pick up the weirdy beardies, all 4% of them.

    So that leaves Beanp or UKIP if you want out, neither of which will win, or don’t vote at all because you’ve realised what an utter waste of time it is.

    The best I can hope for is a tripartite coalition that is so completely hamstrung by internal power struggles and lack of majorities that it is incapable of passing any more stupid rules and regulations. Or Russia invades and executes the enemies of the people, which is all of them.

  109. 109
    Twampersand mk III says:

    No chance.

  110. 110
    Jack Ketch says:

    Yvette Cooper is far too sinister looking to be a psychopathic penguin; less honest too.

  111. 111
    Anonymous says:

    This Speech is boringgggggggggggggggggg, even Sky cant even be bothered to show it.

  112. 112
    Shooty* says:


  113. 113
    I dislike socialists intensely says:

    Miliband knows that the economy will be a train wreck within a few months
    if ever he becomes PM.

  114. 114
    Anonymous says:

    Milliband just said about block on transferring powers……hello you handed all those powers over when you were in cabinet with Brown. You pillock.

  115. 115
    WAKE UP TIME!!!! says:

    Dear Ah, believe me, I do. Since 7/7 2005 I’ve spent time understanding the ‘Religon of Peace’ and laugh whenever I hear Dave, Nick, Boris & Ned tell me it’s not what it appears. Anyone with ten brain cells can see the danger it poses. Anjem aint fibbing and he aint bonkers either. Please keep spreading the truth, we’re obliged to do so.

  116. 116
    still walking into darkness says:

    Yet the BBC announces it last night that ‘Miliband offers in out EU referendum’

  117. 117
    Spartacus says:

    latest poll prediction analysis is that labour is down to a majority of 58 seats

  118. 118
    Spartacus says:

    how about reduction of vat (tax for nothing tax)

  119. 119
    Anonymous says:

    A pile of steaming crap as usual from milipede. Whatever happens we peasants must not have a vote as we are too stupid to understand the issues, unlike the super intelligent MPs who got us into this fucking mess in the first place. And politicians don’t understand why we utterly despise them. Give me strength.

  120. 120
    Twampersand mk III says:

    True, they haven’t whipped any girls recently, but they do kill protestors, or even just people walking down the street.

    Ask Ian Tomlinson. Murdered in the street, on camera, with the identity of the attacker known. Result? Sacked. For the second time. Reverse the roles and imagine the uproar.

    If you think that the Police in the UK are not now militarised, moronic thugs, you’ll have a rude awakening if you ever have to do business with them.

    They behave like the military wing of the Labour party, except when they’re killing blacks or fitting up innocent people, which seems to be a Tory pastime.

  121. 121
    Anonymous says:

    Only cut ones

  122. 122
    I dislike socialists intensely says:

    Yes ,she would have excelled in the old East Germany. Like being in
    charge of a re-education program . If you had to live with that
    tosser of a husband ,it would give anyone a sour face.

  123. 123
    I dislike socialists intensely says:

    And if Clegg had not welshed on the fair boundary changes it would be evens.

  124. 124
    Shaz says:

    You can easily read the lyrics of ‘Part of the Union’ as being ironic and a statement of the pompous arseholery endemic in ‘union men’.

  125. 125
    Hugh Janus says:

    Ed, you could have saved yourself and us some time and summed up your position on the issue of a public say on the EU in one short sentence:-

    “I do not want there to be a Labour government.”

  126. 126
    Hugh Janus says:

    Again, please – in English this time.

  127. 127
    Hugh Janus says:

    In’sh allah!

  128. 128
    Anonymous says:

    Putting “Ed” and “leadership” in the same sentence without an intervening “NOT” is plain stupid.

    Alan Douglas

  129. 129

    If that cretin seems posh to you,then god help you!

  130. 130
    Shlomo says:

    Israel is the only democracy in———Israel.
    Israel has never attacked Arab territory (on a thursday; when there is an “R” in the month; during a leap year)
    Israel has a long history of friendship with Britain since we stopped killing British soldiers, supplying arms to the Argentine junta, using British passports as cover when murdering enemies and calling British politicians “yapping dogs”.
    The young, handy-looking volunteers protecting the Synagogue in Marble Arch are not really an assassination squad in place–honest.

  131. 131

    Section 50 is longwinded bullshit ,if a vote in parliament said we are no longer under the EUSSR that is it done !

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    Sandalista says:

    I am wondering if Ed has just painted a fox on his own toe cap.

  133. 133
    Jack Ketch says:

    One of the Eagle Brothers is on the Daily Politics, trying to explain Miliband’s policy. It’s mouth flapped, a noise came out (sort of a halting mumble), there were words but none actually made up a coherent sentence. Astonishing isn’t it that after 100,000 years of evolution–this is what humanity throws up.

  134. 134

    They might have preferred that under Komrade Breheznev , but since the fall of the Berlin wall they seamlessly transferred their allegiance the the new marxist utopia of the EUSSR.

  135. 135

    If either set of traitors win the next election it will not matter, they are each as enthusiastic about sucking on the Euro arsehole as the other,
    What we really need is UKIP MPs, they might even put some backbone into the tories who profess to be eurosceptic and even form a true anti EU opposition in parliament.
    Who knows if Scotland votes for independence Labour , Lib dems and SNP lose about 60 Parliamentary seats ,all is not lost!

  136. 136
    Anonymous says:


  137. 137
    Dangerous Brian says:

    Im not the real anonymous, I’m really Dangerous Brian.

  138. 138
    Kent Brockman says:

    For Fucks sake don’t let this nutter lead. Last time he ‘led’ he led us into the Climate Change Act. We’ve been paying for it ever since! £125 on your annual bill for greenwash. He takes from the poor and gives to the rich

  139. 139
    Ed The Eunuch says:

    As strategies go. Ed has engineered his downfall. Twat! I reckon this will be the end of him with his No to a referendum. Did Mandelson “Stay in Europe to keep me mega rich” twist Milimong’s arm up his back until he promised a No referendum for Mandy & Tony? They are back seat drivers of Labour, now that the Unions have tired of funding this Silly Going Nowhere Labour Party. Ffs.

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    Watch Euroshite every Saturday night on the BBC! says:

    We are delighted. Kerrchiiiiiiing!

  141. 141
    dave says:

    Come on Russia,put us out of our misery.

  142. 142
    dave says:

    im Sparticus

  143. 143
    Anon says:

    Problems with: Bedroom tax, cut backs, food banks, Russia, Atos, IDS kicking the unemployed/disabled, upper-class-war, wanting to bomb Syria, Willy Hague, homelessness – and yet Dave keeps banging on about the EU. Does not the never-ending issue of the EU help to take voters minds off the big issues?

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    By the way says:

    If the Labour Party refuses to play ball, and the EU becomes a non-news issue, then might not the spot-light switch to Dave – and his lack of real ideas?

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