March 12th, 2014

Labour React to Referendum Fudge

The more sensible Labour MPs don’t exactly sound delighted about having to explain Miliband’s yeah-but-no-but referendum position to voters.

Graham Stringer is most damning, telling Ed “I am very disappointed by this… shoddy compromise,” and that the fudge is “impossible to sell on the doorstep.”

Level-headed Kate Hoey adds “I think it’s meant to be a clever compromise, I don’t think it’s going to end up as one,” confirming that a referendum under a Labour government is now “almost impossible”.

John Mann wrote to Miliband just yesterday asking for an EU referendum so he was disappointed within hours. Mann says Labour’s announcement is “a significant move in the right direction but I would encourage him to go further than he’s gone today… Labour voters want to see their voice being heard. They want to be trusted.”

And Labour donor John Mills ain’t happy given he has campaigned for a referendum and now won’t be getting what he wanted for his money: “The growth of the EU’s influence over Britain warrants a referendum regardless of future events.”

Still at least Mandy’s happy. This all could have been avoided so easily…


122 Comments

  1. 1
    Tony Blair says:

    Useless Twat

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  2. 2
    Come on Chelsea says:

    Chelsea for the Champions league.

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    • 9
      All Out says:

      Will the Football Clubs and Rugby Clubs be allowed to complete in the European Tournaments?
      Regardless of any referendum can the BBC stop broadcasting the European Song Competition.

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      • 28
        Geographical Restriction says:

        Why wouldn’t they? As far as I know no-one is proposing the UK is not part of Europe any longer. I suppose we could try relocating the British Isles over to the Carribean but pretty sure we’re stuck here.

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      • 34
        Herman Achille Van Rompuy says:

        We will get rid of the Engerlund, Scotland, and Wales football teams, and have just one EU team.

        It will have the budget (unaudited) to get the best in the world.

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    • 20
      Ed balls says:

      I propose a one off Footballers Bonus tax.

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  3. 3
    Twatwatch says:

    Miliband is a Hunt isn’t he.

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    • 54
      Our Representatives Just Make You Proud says:

      Totally. Dave must be praying for his health every night. If Millibean did a Bob Crow then Dave loses the best vote winner for the Tories there is.

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    • 112
      Jeffrey Bernard says:

      If Miliband is a Jeremy, then Clegg and his cronies are Hoons:
      http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200708/cmhansrd/cm080226/debtext/80226-0007.htm#08022642000009

      Mr. Edward Davey (Kingston and Surbiton) (LD): On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Will the Chair reconsider the decision not to select the Liberal Democrat amendment for a referendum on Britain’s membership of the EU? That is the question that goes to the heart of the debate before the House. That is the debate that people want to hear. We are being gagged, Sir.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir Michael Lord): Order. I understand the hon. Gentleman’s point of order, but having made it he must not go on and start debating the matter. The selection of amendments is made by Mr. Speaker, and is not open for questioning in the House. Hon. Members will have every opportunity to discuss these matters when we embark—[Hon. Members: “When?”] Order. During the course of the debate.

      Mr. Nick Clegg (Sheffield, Hallam) (LD): Further to that point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I share the dismay of my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston and Surbiton (Mr. Davey). What guidance can you give me on how we can secure—if not today, at some point during the remaining stages of the Bill—the opportunity to debate the issue that many Members want debated and many members of the public want debated: our future membership of the EU?

      Simon Hughes (North Southwark and Bermondsey) (LD): On a separate point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker.

      Mr. Deputy Speaker: If it is a separate point of order, I am prepared to take it.

      Simon Hughes: I have raised procedural questions about the Bill with Mr. Speaker and other occupants of the Chair. I have asked for guidance from Officers of the House on the drafting of amendments that will be selectable—generally, on the Bill, not just on this issue.
      26 Feb 2008 : Column 923
      I have been told that we must see the Clerks. My colleagues have been to see the Clerks and have taken advice from them. They have submitted amendments that the Clerks have told them are in order. Please will you tell me and those other colleagues who have made points of order on the Bill what more we have to do to have a point of order accepted that allows an amendment to be debated in the House on an issue that a quarter of the British people represented here want to be debated and many people regularly tell us ought to be debated? What else do we have to do, because we have followed the rules that we have been given?

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  4. 5

    “and now won’t be getting what he wanted for his money”

    And that is the difference between the parties.

    Well spotted.

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  5. 6
    Anonymous says:

    its simple…his new book.

    “how to lose an election in 1 day”

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  6. 7
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Nigel Farage has a new slogan for UKIP:

    Love Britain
    Marry a German

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  7. 13
    Sid Cleverbollocks says:

    Silly old Ned.

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  8. 15
    Peter Martin says:

    If a Labour MP is still unclear what it is meant to be, it doesn’t sound like a clever anything, frankly.

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  9. 21
    Barroso says:

    As if the powers already ceded to glorious People’s Republic of EU weren’t significant, so no vote needed on those. Only new powers, which we will use to increase turnip production.

    What a fool this tractor factory manager is.

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  10. 22
    Is the WILL bit a fucking order? says:

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  11. 23
    Mitch says:

    The coalition changed the law to require a referendum if more powers were proposed to be transferred to Brussels.

    Therefore, the only firm commitment Ed gave us is one that he doesn’t have any choice over, anyway.

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    • 32
      The British Public says:

      The only firm commitment he has made is that he does not trust the British people to determine their own destiny.

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      • 45
        Scum says:

        The coalition pulled a swiftly on that too. They can decide themselves what the ‘more powers’ can be, and given they are all duplicitous EU loving bastards, they’ll simply brazen it out and deny that the referendum lock was triggered. Therefore, they should all,be hanged by a fucking rope until they die

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        • 56
          Mitch says:

          Fair point, and probably true. My point is that Ed is actually only offering something that is actually the current constitutional position.

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          • The Critic says:

            Rather like his jobs guarantee,which reminds me of something the Balirite faction introduced.. I know,let’s call it the New Deal….

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    • 98
      vikki milibandard says:

      yeh
      but no
      but yeh
      etc

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  12. 31
    Ed Miliband's Country Pantry says:

    Roll up, roll up, and taste our lovely Referendum Fudge.

    Made with German cream, and Cuban Sugar, it’s lovely.

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  13. 33
    Hoey must go says:

    Time for Kate Hoey to step away from the Labour Party.
    They most certainly do not reflect her opinion on EU, and their position on Northern Ireland is shameful.

    Hoey cannot in all conscience remain within, and retain any credibility whatsoever.

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    • 67
      Gerbil 7 says:

      Pretty much the only Labour politician that is intelligent and worth listening to when they speak. I’ve long suspected that she is in the wrong party.

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    • 70
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      I agree.

      Hoey,Frank Field,Mann and all other anti-EU Labour MPs should defect to UKIP.

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  14. 37
    Sizzla says:

    Useless.

    We can only hope this unravels within a few days like most Labour policies.

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  15. 40
    Alex the Poorer says:

    Labour have not thought this referendum statement through properly, carpet muncher Angela Eagle has just confirmed it on the Daily Politics show when asked ‘if you wanted to stay in Europe but did not like the treaty change, how would you vote’ she had no answer but that would never happen, l think if she had a fag packet she might have been able to work out a bit of a better answer than that. Labour what a load of tossers

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    • 51
      Bill Quango MP says:

      Labour banned fag packets in public places.

      Its part the reason why Balls has spent the banker’s tax 10 times.

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      • 64
        Ed Balls says:

        Eleventy actually.

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      • 66
        Ed Balls says:

        By putting the Bankers Tax in a Santander 123 account and having at least 2 direct debits, I can arbitrage it at 3% and make it a much bigger number.

        Only problem is where we get the £500 a month payment into the account to trigger the interest.

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  16. 41
    Peter Mandibles says:

    Fudge?
    Oooohhh… Need anyone to pack it?

    (wink wank)

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  17. 42
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    What the fuck is Miliband on?

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  18. 43
    UKIP says:

    That’s a few more thousand votes for us in May to add to the thousands disgusted that you backed Harman over PIE. Thanks, Ed.

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    • 65
      Labour and Miliband thanks all those voting UKIP for putting us in power says:

      Any votes in May 2015 will not elect a single UKIP MP but they will guarantee that Labour are the next government and that you will NEVER get that referendum so keep up the good work ensuring that Labour are back in Downing Street

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      • 75
        Sid Cleverbollocks says:

        Go with your gut.
        Tactical voters are a load of weak spined bloater-eaters!

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      • 80
        was it something I said? says:

        We’ll never get the referendum anyway. Dave, even if elected, will pull the same ‘it’s not a significant transfer of powers so we don’t need a referendum and anyway, I’ve got a letter from my mum that I be excused games today’ stunt as Miliband.

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      • 100
        Cameron, pussy-whipped by Gordon Brown says:

        Stop your whining you self-entitled tory arse-bandit

        if you want to keep Labour out you need to vote UKIP

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  19. 44
    Fishy says:

    Jo Co on the Daily Brillo is looking rather hot this lunchtime.

    I wonder where she is spending her afternoon?

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  20. 48
    Mr. Ed says:

    I say nay

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  21. 55
    The British Public says:

    No no no no no.

    Ed, you are a useless weasel. This will not do at all. We want a referendum.

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  22. 60
    Mr. Ed says:

    nay

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  23. 61
    Gerbil 7 says:

    Bottle job Beaker

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  24. 68
    Ed Moribund says:

    The Daily Mail was right. I do hate Britain. So I’m going to turn it into the EU.

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  25. 72
    Loosehead says:

    Who’s the hottie next to Wallis? She can’t be sitting next to him by choice, so is she one of his “special” advisers?

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  26. 103
    DC says:

    I’m sorry, but is this any surprise? Labour and the unions voted in a communist sympathising European immigrant, he’s hardly going to turn his back on his kindred abroad without a good hard slap. I would urge all labour voters to turn your back on the party for benefits and immigrants and start supporting something more worthwhile, like the monster raving loonies!

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  27. 116
    tigerowl says:

    I am concerned about the NHS, education, law and order, environment. This idea of a referendum is a pointless exercise. If there were a vote today, Britain would vote to stay in. So what is the problem? Setting for a vote in three years time would hold business and jobs back, You would not know until then if Britain was in or out and that is too big a risk., You know UKIP have lost the argument on Europe because they are now anti everything and looking stupid. Cameron can not – and nor can any other party or party leader – commit the next parliament to something that can not be decided until that new parliament is in place. Whole debate is just going no where.

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  28. 117
    Anonymous says:

    I think Milliband has just done a Kinnock

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  29. 118
    Ed The Eunuch says:

    “Still at least Mandy’s happy.”

    Well said. No doubt Tony has ambitions in Europe too! Watch this space!

    If the Unions had any sense they would tell Labour to sling its hook and get a few independent union MPs elected! It won’t be huge but its better than paying millions to a Labour Charity for sweet fa!

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  30. 119
    HenryV says:

    Who’s the blonde in the picture?

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  31. 121
    Anonymous says:

    vote for labour in 2015 and uk is fucked by europe eu and you can never trust labour if labour win in 2015 then uk is flushed down the toilet crapper. it ll be interesting to see how many stupid labour voters there are in 2015

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  32. 122
    Anonymous says:

    “Labour React to Referendum Fudge”
    Presumably by praying that some Willy W*nker amongst them doesn’t suggest banning a referendum (referendum). In order to prevent any real determination, of whether the (disenfranchised) majority want an EU vote. Particularly as such a plebiscite, albeit once removed, could be incorporated on the forthcoming local elections ballot paper for free.

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