February 26th, 2014

Gallagher: Editor-in-Chef

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Lunching in chi-chi Moro, Islington, Guido had the crab brik with harissa (£9.00) followed by the lamb with hispi cabbage and crispy capers, piquillo sauce and lentils (£19.50), Neo-Guido had the wood roasted pork with smoked almond sauce, wilted escarole and black beans (£19.00) which we washed down with a couple of bottles of Viña Gravonia Crianza (Viura) Lopez de Heredia ’03 (£42.50). The crab was light, the lamb was pink and the only complaint from the dining companions was that the portions weren’t big enough. When the waiter was asked for a recommendation he said “its your lunch”. Though his guidance on the wine was faultless.

Mid-lunch Guido’s phone buzzed with a tweet referencing @GuidoFawkes by one of their junior kitchen staff saying we were dining at the restaurant. A star-struck faux pas that will surely turn off other more publicity-shy celebrity diners. Guido was popping to the loo round the back when he bumped into Tony Gallagher, former editor of The Telegraph, in his kitchen whites. Fifty this year, Tony is learning a new trade and had spent the morning peeling artichokes, “lots of them”. He told Guido that the kitchen at Moro is run on very democratic lines and there is no shouting. This will be a change in working environment for him.

For dessert we had a satisfying Gallagher Malaga raisin ice cream  (£6.50) with two spoons. “Don’t be nasty” pleaded the former tyrant of The Telegraph newsroom nervously as he sportingly posed for his picture. As if…


335 Comments

  1. 1
    Jay Raynor says:

    All this guff because he comp’d you the meal??

  2. 2
    Ed Balls Super Fan says:

    Nice bottle of plonk in Sainsburys for £5

  3. 3

    Head-hitter to spud-peeler…..just like that!

  4. 4
    Tom says:

    The place is always stuffed full of folk of note.
    Their Tweet was more likely to warn their usual guests that a couple of gossips had popped by.

  5. 5
    M­a­qboul says:

    So much better to be hacking raw vegetables than you know what.

  6. 6
    Mr Nurdle says:

    OK who payed for the nosh then, probably someone on expenses.

  7. 7
    The Deputy Leader of the Labour Party is a cold hearted Monster and must resign! says:

    My name is Griselda, I eat little boys, spit out their bones to make children’s toys.

    My name is Griselda, I make children squirm, I eat bats wings witth big juicy worms.

    Hahaharriet is Griselda the witch!

    Hahaharriet is Griselda the witch!

    Resign you heartless bitch!

  8. 8
    FrankFisher says:

    A journalist working for a living? Bet that scares the living shit out of the others.

  9. 9
    Mitch says:

    Does he get his ‘whites’ off Mark Oaten?

  10. 10

    It is all about the cuts.

    That is deep for a Telegraph man.

  11. 11
  12. 12
    broderick crawford says:

    He s got a good robust pair of ears.

    HRH King-elect will be apoplectic with jealousy

  13. 13
    IRA bomber says:

    Lucky me, then!

  14. 14
    Insider says:

    Tip?

  15. 15
    Word of advice says:

    It is never too late to repent and do something useful with your life.

  16. 16
    Anonymous says:

    that’s a lot for for a 11 year old crianza

  17. 17
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Good on the guy.

    He probably buys all his stuff cheap at ASDA (£6.50/kilo of New Zealand lamb), tarts it up a bit,gives it a fancy name like wood-roasted and charges his rich customers a fuckin’ fortune.

    He’ll retire a millionaire in no time :-)

  18. 18
    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:

    Coalition governments are great for LibDem nonentities like me and Vince the Country.

  19. 19
    The wine trade says:

    300% mark-ups are standard.

  20. 20
    The Diary of Owen Jones aged 13¾ says:

    Lunching in chi-chi Moro Foodbank, Islington, I had the watercress soup with stale buns from a dumpster (£0.00) followed by the thinnest slice of ham with cabbage soup and out of date crisps, tomato sauce and lentils (£0.00).
    Penny Pandora had the wood roasted cabbage with smoked shoe leather sauce, wilted barley and green beans (£00.00) which we washed down with a couple of bottles of tap water (Thames Water) ’03 (£0.00).
    The insects were lightly scuttling in the rubbish, the vegetables several days old and the only complaint from the dining companions was that the despicable Tory government refused to feed starving families.

    When the waiter was asked for a recommendation he said ”Vote labour”.

    I have never felt more self-satisfied, smug and caring. In a lefty superior kind of way..

    Then me and Laurie Pandora went to KFC for a bucket meal each ‘coz me and her were starving .

  21. 21

    don’t knock it. A presstitute has turned in an honest day’s work. Praise The Lord!

  22. 22
    Harridan Harmanhater says:

    11 year old crianza ? Details to PIE, please.

  23. 23

    As scams go, it’s almost honest.

  24. 24
    Scoffaholic says:

    Do they allow ASDA in Islington these days?

  25. 25
    Mr Nurdle says:

    Will either of the Geedos reach 60 years old, booze, smokes, very rich food with lots of salt, I will not be around when they reach that age.

  26. 26
    Ad Hominem says:

    Owen Jones is an ill informed intravenous drip of bullshit.

  27. 27
    Noddy says:

    I wondered where big ears had got to.

  28. 28
    Anonymous says:

    Oh dear.Looks like Jones will have to stop “working” at The independent. He would be a hypocrite if he didn’t.

    N.S.F.W ?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/50-reasons-to-look-forward-to-the-world-cup-1950315.html?action=gallery&ino=10

  29. 29
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    ASDA will deliver over a wide radius :-)

  30. 30
    Loosenders says:

    Mad Al is going to face some protestors tomorrow night as he atttends a Labour Party fundraiser in Walthamstow.

    http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/wfnews/11033466.Protests_planned_for_Alastair_Campbell_s__curry_spin__visit/

  31. 31
    whippet says:

    Guido’s mistaken, that’s the BFG.

  32. 32
    Mong Watch says:

    Al Campbell demonstrates why he does not design crosswords:

  33. 33
    The Dickwick Papers says:

    Little wonder he’s so beloved by the BBC and various others of the fuckwit media.

  34. 34
    They made me go to rehab says:

    Jesus worked in kitchens in my 20s and it is long and bloody hard work – why anyone would want to take it up aged 50 is anyone’s guess

  35. 35

    That is not what it says in my Bible.

  36. 36

    You really want it all to come to your doorstep though.

  37. 37
    Nigel says:

    Will the “moderate” Muslims take up a collection at Friday prayers to compensate the victims of past present and future Islamic terrorism in order to show their good faith with the rest of us? You know the answer.

  38. 38
    Bill Quango MP says:

    Was it the actual Jesus who worked in the kitchen or just a Mexican ?

  39. 39
    SNAFU says:

    “If Scots vote to leave the UK they will be voting to lose the BBC too, minister warns” says Maria Miller, this woman is too stupid for words. There is one good reason to leave the UK. No more BBC (Sorry jack).

  40. 40
    Ali Campbell ( no relation to Nicky .. Just same sympathies) says:

    I drink 5 of those each night.

    So I can keep the nightmares away.

  41. 41
    Owen Jones says:

    I am struggling with my sexuality, what should I do?

  42. 42
    SNAFU says:

    Mr Campbell you really do need psychiatric help.

  43. 43
    Lord John Ermine Prescott says:

    A post about food.. And a comment about pie!
    This is your best article ever Fawkes?

    Hey! Guido Forks! like , you know, a fork.
    or Guido Forks out for z meal! Just gets better!

    Pass the gravy train, pet.

  44. 44
    Owen Chaves says:

    Blocked!

  45. 45
    SNAFU says:

    Owen all you need to do is write a letter to Harriet and Jack, I’m sure they have lots of friends who will help you.

  46. 46
    BBC red bottom says:

    The English will make up the licence fee shortfall.
    It’s pay up or no more Call the Midwife!

  47. 47
    P l e b says:

    I posted the sentences as they came up online, but Guido removed the posts.
    Strange?

  48. 48
    mrs jones says:

    the usual sweetheart… stand in front of your bedroom mirror and have a very angry wank.

  49. 49
    cornwall storms says:

    Anyone who can cook is worth their weight in gold

  50. 50
    I mean this most sincerely Ali says:

    Do me a favour, drink yourself to an early grave mate.

  51. 51
    Fruit loop says:

    The boys will miss their day out to Legoland too…

    http://kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/

  52. 52
    Táxpáyér says:

    Someone got on their bike and got a job, any job.

    Unlike the millions in the shirking classes.

  53. 53
    Ah! but says:

    Even the Devil has to eat.

    PS I think you’ll find Jesus, as the son of a carpenter, made wooden crosses and things. Although he was pretty good with the portion control of bread and fishes.

  54. 54
    Ah! not forgetting says:

    The weather reports.

  55. 55
    Tulips are flowering at GCHQ says:

    What she going to do, put a big metal wall 600feet high, on the NE side of all the transmitter masts then force all satellites not to transmit BBC crap, wait brilliant idea, please please , start with the Moel Y Parc tv transmitte.r

  56. 56
    Retired Times leader writer says:

    This man deserves credit

    There is not ONE British newspaper worth writing for nowadays

    Not to speak of the owners – Pornographer Desmond

    Offshore looney Barclay Bros

    KGB lamper Lebedev

    Industrial Hacker Murdoch

    The Rudderless Mirror

    And the morbund Scott Trust

    And

  57. 57
    Ah! not forgetting says:

    And ” Full English Breakfasts” for Eddie Stobart drivers

  58. 58
    Daily Mail says:

    Are we sorry we backed the Nazis?

    Are we buggery.

  59. 59
    Offal says:

    Meanwhile, the rest us have to settle for Tripe!

    Breakfast- Tripe-Lunch-Tripe- Dinner-Tripe!

    Supper-Offal!

  60. 60
    Phil from Pentonville says:

    I bet those prison guards who have just had to take on those murderers when they were up for it will be asking themselves tonight whether it was really worth it for the minimum wage.

    I hope they aren’t sending them murderers here. They are nothing but trouble and someone is going to cop for it.

    Tell that Judge to do them a second time for contempt I say.

  61. 61
    P l e b says:

    Farmer’s Guardian?

    Racing Post?

  62. 62
    Ah! poor lad says:

    You’re not alone.
    We’re all struggling with your sexuality.

  63. 63
    Dr Frankenfreud says:

    We did try but his timekeeping is very poor. He kept phoning in and cancelling 45 minutes before the consultations. Said he had to look for WMDs. he’s clearly bonkers.

  64. 64
    P l e b says:

    Aren’t they destined for Category A?

  65. 65
    Retired Times leader writer says:

    Last but not least

    Lady Pink Champagne Rotherham

    Enough said – Trash trash trash

    PS The first rule of journalism is to objectively inform

  66. 66
    C.O.Jones says:

    I think that trying to appear “clever” just makes you look like stupid.

  67. 67
    Bob says:

    GQ Tits and pecks glossy koke rag

    Where Guido elects himself the most influential person in the world

    Every year

    And awards himself the Golden Spoon in Mouth Award to dream of how his misspent youth might have been

  68. 68
  69. 69
    the bloody Mod Bot is still at it says:

    I think that as part of the divorce settlement, Salmond can have custody of the BBC.

    We’ll somehow manage without and struggle on.

  70. 70
    Bob says:

    I thought Al was in the same “spa” as our own Sally

  71. 71
    Anonymous says:

    What are they going to do about Freesat? Encrypt the BBC channels and hand out viewing cards to English viewers? Not only would that be a nightmare to administer, it would also be the first step to a subscription BBC. Yes please!

  72. 72
    Ringstone. says:

    Normally enjoy Guido – even if it is increasingly self referential. as today.
    We don’t really want to know you spent some people’s weekly budget on lunch for two. Two bottles of wine at lunch do however explain some of Guido’s afternoon postings. £54 on food and £85 on booze on a working day tell you anything?

  73. 73
    SNAFU says:

    In a couple of years they will be in a open prison with a load of social workers telling them we can feel your pain.

  74. 74
    Bob says:

    Would any serious person write for the Telegraph nowadays?

    It is in permanent nervous breakdown

    Run by that US Obergruppenfuehrer whose name I deliberately do not remember…

    I think it should be put out of its agony – on humane grounds…

  75. 75
    Anonymous says:

    The louder the left’s DM hate campaign shouts, the more obvious it is the DM must be doing something right.

  76. 76
    the bloody Mod Bot is still at it says:

    ‘The Daily Mail and MailOnline have a sinister track record of presenting underage girls in a deeply inappropriate and sexualised manner. This has to stop, and the Daily Mail should show contrition by making a generous contribution to the NSPCC, and should meet with children’s charities to discuss changing editorial guidelines.’

    The petition’s initiator is someone called OWEN JONES (where have I heard that name before? – I’m sure it will come back to me while I’m watching the tele tonight.

    Re-worded, that petition actually means:

    Petition to stop the Daily Mail holding Labour politicians to account, and to allow me to fire off flim-flam, chaff and other distraction tools to get the public to look the other way

  77. 77
    M­a­qboul says:

    Erm…you paid.

    And everyone else who logs on here.

  78. 78
    M­a­qboul says:

    The sweaties get a vote on leaving the EU too. Something which, I suspect, will be denied to the rest of us.

  79. 79
    Ignorant Prick says:

    Radical Islamist preacher Anjem Choudary “proud” of Lee Rigby killer Michael Adebolajo

  80. 80
    M­a­qboul says:

    He spent his own budget, not someone else’s, you sanctimonious wazzock.

  81. 81
    Greg Shapps Co Chair and Table says:

    He’s a Worker

    Good Lord

    We must enroll him in the Partie

    Feldman, will you pay his subscription?

  82. 82
    Anonymous says:

    Isn’t that enough to prosecute him?

  83. 83
    Anonymous says:

    They should live together then…

  84. 84
    RomaBob.... working hard for you! says:

    Steady on there……. Campbell is a first grade hunt! Sick b*stard!

  85. 85
    Dai Bando says:

    Good for him,at least he is trying to get on with his life unlike the shirkers who are content to live off benefits for the rest of their lives with no ambition,education and hope.

  86. 86
    altruism in industry says:

    I see the artichoke put up a bit of a fight.

  87. 87
    Dai Bando says:

    In a couple of years they will be out if Labour get elected in 2015 and Milliband secures Syria peace process all part of the enlightenment.

  88. 88
    A squirrel says:

    Nuts?

  89. 89
    Michael Winner says:

    Was the meal peculiarly salty?

  90. 90
    Lady Waad says:

    Bill’s escarole has wilted again.

  91. 91
    jgm2 says:

    Shocking. I wonder how many people died unnecessarily as a result of Dacre’s dodgy MMR reporting.

    I wonder how it matches up to the death toll caused by Campbell’s dodgy I’raq reporting.

    Oh and Alistair Campbell is an anagram of ‘Al*co*ho*lic C*U*N*T’.

  92. 92
    altruism in industry says:

    The thing about accepting other peoples’ ideas is that the mindset of accepting other peoples’ ideas is an idea in itself.
    There is a difficulty there because if there is someone who’s ideas you accept but their idea is not to accept other peoples’ ideas then they don’t belong in the society of people who accept other peoples’ ideas.
    So a society of people who accept other people’s ideas cannot include people who don’t accept other peoples’ ideas and they should go somewhere else where we can look tolerantly upon them.

  93. 93
    Sir William Wayde says:

    Much as I dislike Ms Harman, her connection with the nonces appears to have been far too indirect to attract any blame. A case of “I danced with a man who’d danced with a girl who’d danced with the Prince of Wales’.

  94. 94
    Charmed I'm Sure says:

    Well said that man. Apart from certain gentleman’s toilets in the Hampstead area I would imaging the fat camp mercenary paddy Mr Guido is about as welcome as a dose of Ebola in most places around town. One does wonder how much piss and waiter spunk Mr Guido has unwittingly swallowed in his time.

  95. 95
    Charmed I'm Sure says:

    Dead little girl’s mobiles? We can say it you know, regardless of the trial that is being played out for the sake of it. It has already been decided that they will all walk, everything else is just so the lawyers can get their cash.

  96. 96
    UKIP voter says:

    All that foreign muck makes me fart like a vuvuzela.

  97. 97
    Ithankyou says:

    Don’t eat yellow snow

  98. 98
    Charmed I'm Sure says:

    You thick fuck. Do you really think Mr Guido makes money from this shit? How many times have you clicked those weird looking adverts at the side? Exactly, never. Mr Guido takes a decent income from the hand of his sugar daddy Murdoch, he sold this blog out years ago. He also gets quite a few quid from the pro y!d types when he randomly posts his pro Israeli propaganda at their request.

  99. 99
    Spartacus says:

    nanny phillips in parliament tonight waxing on about young people driving as though they are the cause of all the world’s ills.

    wants to go to scotchland. they never use their indicators and all drive as though they are towing a trailer loaded with hay.

  100. 100
  101. 101
    Ah! have an idea says:

    Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

    Where did you get it?

  102. 102
    Charmed I'm Sure says:

    Another thick fuck, how do you types manage to pay for your internet connections. Harman is as complicit in kiddie noncing and murder as all the other fuckers in parliament. At some point this year the Elm Guest House scandal will break, by that time most of the vile nonce scum will be out of the country and saps like Mr Guido will be posting as many distraction stories as possible. Expect skirmishes over Gibraltar and a drawn out conflict in the Ukraine as a nice little side story to keep you all foaming. Big events will be occurring in India too if the CIA and the Mossad can get their men into position in time. Gonna be a great year for anti terrorist paranoia.

  103. 103
    The Labour Party says:

    Those are our voters you’re talking about. That’s how we like them.

  104. 104
    Ah! have an question says:

    Would he be ‘Chef de partie’ ?

  105. 105
    Spartacus says:

    nánny phíllíps ín párlíáment tóníght wáxíng ón ábóut yóung peóple drívíng ás thóugh they áre the cáuse óf áll the wórld’s ílls.

    wánts tó gó tó scótchlánd. they never use theír índícátórs ánd áll dríve ás thóugh they áre tówíng á tráíler lóáded wíth háy.

  106. 106
    jgm2 says:

    Gonna be a great year for anti terrorist paranoia.

    Looks like the paranoia has made an early start. When do we get to the anti-terrorist bit?

  107. 107
    Lazarus says:

    Pretty good doctor too!

  108. 108
    Frederick says:

    Why did Tony Blair refuse to state if his kid had had the MMR vaccine.

    He was the one who made mother’s doubtful when he had access to the best advice.

    So basically you and your boss are as much to blame if not more.

    And Ian Hislop too.

  109. 109
    Mark Oaten says:

    These Roma are awesome.

    Free doorstep delivery !

  110. 110
    White rabbit says:

    For lunch I had a medium tub of cottage cheese with pineapple. Followed by a large tub of yoghurt..toffee flavour I think. Accompanied by live PMQs. Confirmation by post match comments that John Pienaar is a transparent Labour shill. Ukraine featured nowhere with Ed figuring zero political advantage.

  111. 111
    altruism in industry says:

    I suppose I could have said a tolerant society cannot include intolerant people. but there is a dilemma because that would be intolerant if you see what I mean. By accepting intolerant people into the society the society itself becomes intolerant and suffers a loss. It is not all good, it is exceedingly bad.

  112. 112
    Reality Cheque says:

    So old Andy Chowder thinks his man is a hero. Arrest the twat, plods.

  113. 113
    Tony here says:

    For lunch, I had a Chinese, tee hee.

    but later, its old Slottie. FFS. Help. Al….

  114. 114
    hu flung dung says:

    that Chinese bird looks like she should have one of those ninja stars in a garter

  115. 115
    Baboon's arse says:

    And that from one of his staunchest admirers …

  116. 116
    Baboon's arse says:

    I think Charmed must be suffering from gout. Very painful, I’m told, and puts one in a vile humour.

  117. 117
    Baboon's arse says:

    “HRH King-elect will be apoplectic with jealousy”

    Not so. They share one set of ears. Did you see Prince Charles anywhere today? Thought not. And have these two men ever been seen together? Nope. QED.

  118. 118
  119. 119
    Do the maths says:

    It’s logic or set theory if you like

  120. 120
    Silly BigCow defends a cold hearted monster says:

    http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26333558

    Did the stupid bitch ever think of resigning from the NCCL for being affiliated to pedofiles? NO! Did she think of shopping them to the police? NO! She only thought about her own self interests and no one elses. Harman is a liability for Labour and she must resign. Heartless monster! SCUM!

  121. 121
    Alastair Cambelt says:

    Give or take a letter or two…

  122. 122
    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    The problem occurs if a society allows people who are intolerant towards it to enter under the banner of tolerance.

    A society which does this is arguably intolerant of itself.

  123. 123
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Funny how Bliar handed out 200 free pass letters to IRA scum but not one letter for a loyalist or a soldier.

    Attempt 2 to get past Guido’s IP blocking.

  124. 124
    Satυrday Bloody Satυrday says:

    On Satυrday, 13th July 1982, I took my wife and son into London to do some shopping in Oxford Street and, as it was a beautiful day, we walked to Regent’s Park, sat on the grass and watched the band playing on the stand. It was delightful and innocent. We had intended going exactly a week later but brought the timing forward due to another engagement which had cropped up.

    So a week later we looked in horror on the TV at the explosion which had occurred at that very same bandstand, killing seven of the players and injuring many in the audience. We would had been there, had the other engagement not cropped up, so I may not otherwise have been writing this 32 years later. Two hours beforehand, in Hyde Park, four soldiers and seven horses had been blown up by a remote controlled nail bomb. One soldier managed to cling on to life for three days before succumbing.

    This was what the ӏRА regarded as their proud work. Those who were not even in military service were simply looked upon as collateral – without even a thought given to proportionality.

    John Downey 62, a former active member of the ӏRА, walked away a free man last Friday, due to a blunder by police, despite being implicated in the Hyde Park bomb. Reporting restrictions were only lifted today. His fingerprint had been found in the car containing the nail bomb. He was also alleged to be implicated in the Enniskillen bombing ten years beforehand in which twelve people were murdered, seven pensioners and one just 20 years old. Downey’s picture is in today’s newspapers.

    Remember, John Downey, your entirely innocent victims never knew that their end was at hand. Just remember that – and sleep well…

  125. 125
    Blowing Whistles says:

    More dirt slowly seeping out on yet another bent police force in the uk – but this police force don’t half warrant disbanding immediately

    Today it’s the case of Alan Charlton who’s been in prison for 23 years and his CCRC case which has gone to the Court of Appeal – can you guess which police farce it is yet …. No …. South Wales Police ‘YET AGAIN’. They have lots of form

    e.g.’s – They skrewed up over the Ian Watkins pa3do case.
    – The Lynette White murder / The Cardiff Three ‘fitted up’.

    EVERY POLICE FORCE IN THE UK is fucking rotten – and that reflects on the fact that they have all been ‘allowed to lie and fit people up’ by prosecutors and judges in order to “GET” convictions – and not at the truth.

    Strathclyde Police have particular form in Scotland, Hampshire, Dorset and Plymouth & Cormwall are some of the worst along the South Coast

    But in Paliament – MP’s across the board have always sung the fucking praises of the bastards – now why is that?

  126. 126
    hadley freeeeeeman says:

    Ugh, another white male. We have to smash the patriarchy.

  127. 127
    Blowing Whistles says:

    The list of indictments against Blair grows every day – perhaps the establishment ought to do something about it or are they too in denial?

    Suggestion Round the fuckers Blair and Co up and put them in the fucking nick.

  128. 128
    Satυrday Bloody Satυrday says:

    Disgusting.

    That goes for Orange Hain too.

  129. 129
    Blowing Whistles says:

    There’s no such thing as a ‘free lunch’ – unless of course you are a troughing treasonous parliamentarian on any number of APPG’s, Committees, Foreign Jolly’s troughing on the budget also known as the public purse.

  130. 130
    Er, are you sure you are fully informed? says:

    She put her name to the idea that Parliament should legislate so children aged 10 could be legally fucked.

    She wanted to relax the child pornography laws in a manner which would have accommodated the filthy wants of PIE members making ‘ amateur ‘ porn.

    What sort of person would think that was reasonable, even in those days?

  131. 131
    F**k the LibLabCon says:

    Any NATO drills in central Europe yet?

  132. 132
    Den and Angie says:

    Just another desperate scare tactic, given everyone in Holland, Belgium and the Republic of Ireland can watch the BBC.

    Even in Switzerland, where the law allows cable companies to supply any channel that is available over satellite and transmitted unencrypted.

  133. 133
    Jack Dromey says:

    Have a look at BigBlackGayCocks.com

  134. 134
    A lawyer says:

    Ooh ooh ooh oo-oo-oo ooooooh ah ah ah AAAAAHHH!

  135. 135
    the bloody Mod Bot is still at it says:

    Funny how the BBC are giving the Tories a kicking for this (I had to go and check what dates all of this happened).

    More shit that the Tories are having to clear up after Labour (and get the blame for) – impeded at every turn by having the useless Lib Dem parasites on their back.

    Labour’s legacy (in no particular order);

    A debt mountain / The broken economy
    PFI
    Flooding (Environment Agency)
    Europe / Lisbon
    A broken Benefits system
    Plunging educational standards
    The NHS (Sorry National Death Service)
    Thameslink Train orders (fucked up bidding process)
    MoD Black Hole
    The BBC
    A rigged electoral system
    Labour’s placed men and women in Quangos
    House Building
    Energy Crisis lack of strategic planning
    Energy Bills (Miliband’s Carbon Tax)
    Immigration (Rubbing the right’s noses in it)
    Human Rights Act
    The war on motorists

    ….and now Northern Ireland

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    Radicchio Endive says:

    If his head is cut off completely, just above his root, a small, new head will grow.

    Ciao Ciao!

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    change.org says:

    Let’s see:

    Stop the Daily Mail sexualising children – 31,202 supporters
    Give Lizzy Yarnold a gold post box – 61,352 supporters
    SAVE THE HARLAN BEAGLES – 78,574 supporters
    ABOLISH THE USE OF THE CAPTIVE BOLT GUN TO DESTROY GREYHOUNDS IN THE UK – 84,278 supporters
    Release the baby albino dolphin – 173,592 supporters

    So that’s going well then, Owen

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    3 houses Chuka says:

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    Tony here says:

    Hi y`all!

    Busy sort of day, things to do and money to collect. Those mid East chaps are so generous. Pity they treat the girls like dogs. Ha.

    Still, life goes on. A few more obstacles to swerve today and tomorrow it seems. Where`s Al?

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    Porky says:

    You have to take into account that Ms. Miller is as thick as that which comes out of the rear end of a pig.

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    Nigel Slater says:

    Who was the fat c’u’n’t whose chair broke under him at Moros today?

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    Tony here says:

    There`s no such thing, you idiot. Could you not spell …subsidy.

    God help us.

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    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    Owen Jones Tweet:

    ‘We’ve heard a lot of guff about Venezuela, so here’s my response for @indyvoices: h**p://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/owen-jones-socialisms-critics-look-at-venezuela-and-say-we-told-you-so-but-they-are-wrong-9155295.html’

    Here is some reality:

    Which one is guff ? Shame on the Indy.

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    Sir William Wayde says:

    The NCCL wanted to lower the age of consent to 14, which would bring us into line with Austria, Germany, Portugal and Italy, though I certainly wouldn’t vote for it. They also wanted to decriminalise sex acts between 10 to 14-year olds, which in practice are not often prosecuted. Of course, anything that tends to legitimise sex with children is a nasty and dangerous idea, but this is a very long way from legalising pedophilia.

    The Daily Mail, on the other hand, loves to sexualise children.

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    3 houses Chuka says:

    And tenants in the private sector?

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    The Law is an ass says:

    So why didn’t the Sweeny get them brought back up and double their sentence?

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    A Northerner says:

    I haven’t got a clue what half the stuff that Geedo had is.

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    Spartacus says:

    rozzer: i feared for my life yronner. so i shot im frew the ed seven times

    judge: feared for your life, eh? absolved of all charges. next case

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    Oz Clarke says:

    The wine was dense but not heavy. One out of two then.

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    EU Watch 2 says:

    D’enmark, N’orway and H’olland let the cat out of the bag as to what they are paying foreign aid for:

  152. 152
    Spartacus says:

    just another wag

  153. 153
    Matthew d'Ancona says:

    Brown was the most intellectually formidable and deep-thinking prime minister since Gladstone.

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    EU Watch 2 says:

    This at first blush doesn’t make sense, but it is worth making sense of:

    An ugly truth about the left.

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    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    Owen Jones Followers: 175,196

    Stop the Daily Mail sexualising children Petition: 31,202

    Percentage of Owen’s supporters who have supported petition is at most: 17.8%

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    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    Put!n is not pissing about…

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    BBC Red Bottom says:

    Keep paying your licence fee. Otherwise how we can we fund our free to the entire world internet news service?

    Thanks for ponying up UK. We appreciate it. We really do.

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    Ton`y here says:

    Interesting removal of comments re mi`d eas`t gentlemen and their larg`esse 2 moi.

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    Er, are you sure you are fully informed? says:

    So you would have no problem with your 10 year old daughter having sex and having the protection of the law taken from her when being pressurized to do so by some arsehole?

    Maybe you do. But please forgive the rest of society if we think that the idea is utterly unacceptable and that people who can’t see why are moral midgets

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    Midsomer says:

    You forgot to answer the point about the so-called ‘non-commercial’ pornography. Harriet Harman also wants that bit of her legal advice to be ignored.

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    NCCL staffed by twenty something. says:

    Who did NCCL consult who were not their associates? A few self-interest groups. Parents, Teachers, Adoption service. They are responsible from putting food on the table, getting them to have a good nights sleep, getting off to school etc etc. What about vulnerable people, or those of a vulnerable age. Nothing has been quoted. The NCCL seem to be staffed by those who have yet to live their lives where personal interest comes first, responsibility, or managing people for instance.,

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    i don't need no doctor says:

    Ummuna you fucking idiot, tell us how much “bedroom” tax has been collected so far by HMRC.

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    Anonymous says:

    What’s all this shit?

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    Fleet Street used to be prostitutes. They charged and you got a good ride.

    But now they have become more like tarts. You forget what it is you came for.

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    So it's a Twitter Propaganda stunt says:

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    altruism in industry says:

    I think that there is but one reality that we exist in.
    When I was eleven the form teacher who did sports and who I think was a bit thick said ” Do you know you are so lucky to have been born an Englishman”
    but I do think that he was right in what he said.
    We have an open handedness and etc, etc.
    I feel a oneness with people from cornwall or yorkshire or devon or kent, also with Irish but strangely not with scots.
    I do not welcome the influx of Johnny foreigner even more noticeable as each day passes.
    I do think that there are clever intelligences at work who understand these patriotic feelings for fellows and are bent on destroying that mentality. ( In ourselves we are trusting and obedient to our understood superiors in society and in law although age has probably diminished that for me to only the monarch).

    I can imagine that people who study sociology ( makes the shape of the cross) will think about changing society to a way that suits them. it is a worthwhile endeavour. Yet my hatred of the social studies people is that it is work from a cold twisted mentality, it is from a person who is not liked. compare this to a person who loves society and who possesses common sense. What I am attempting to say here is that if it were possible that some clever people had determined in try to manipulate society through the institutions that we should fight them off because they probably have the wrong mentality.

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    How come whites have noses in all shapes and sizes yet Negros make do with one design? says:

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    Anonymous says:

    Received this email. Anyone want to have some fun with this fuckwit cocktrumpet

    I wish to transact a business proposal with you that will be of IMMENSE BENEFITS to you and I. It’s has to do with a whopping transfer of (US$ 15.5 Million) Kindly contact me via (patrickgarry2013@yahoo.com) for more details.

    PATRICK GARRY.

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    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    T’om W’atson is clearly not standing in solidarity with H’arman over her P.I.E. association:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01sycvs

    A bit of a smear over missing documents. The rebuttal of course is to ask what happened to these during the 13 years of L’abour.

    Also – NCCL were not a libertarian organization: They were liberal.

    L’ibertarians are being smeared also. :-(

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    Anonymous says:

    When do we get white history month or is that considered racist

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    Anonymous says:

    No such thing you fat twat

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    i don't need no doctor says:

    Just like Owen Jones, Alistair Campbell is a waste of a human being.

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    B Liar says:

    Shredded like my expenses

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    Making Whiskey says:

    Oh well, The People of the Peake district, Snowden, Yorkshire moors, Dartmoor etc could now be given license to start distilling their own whiskey.

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    Rutting Bamboom says:

    Zoo

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    Sefton says:

    Will they give the terrorists a free get out of jail card like they did last time?

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    Boris Johnson says:

    Mayfair

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    Snake and Sydney PIE says:

    Look he’s a leftie so the % is actually 99% and we still have the postals to count

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    altruism in industry says:

    I think if I wanted to be interested in politics to say things to people rather than just watching. I think I would ask.

    ” what is this human life here in this country for ?”
    the answer would be
    ” it is not for anything because each moment is a new moment in which anything can happen”
    to which the answer might be.
    “your awareness of time is noted, have you considered that there might exist other people with a different understanding of time ?”

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    Podiceps says:

    To answer your moniker: white people have Neanderthal genes, and the Neanderthals had massive hooters.

    To comment: Mary Wilson, you are a fine singer and have brought pleasure to people of all races. What are you doing hanging around with this great festering sack of hatred?

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    i don't need no doctor says:

    Has Abbott got two sets of breasts?

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    @CO (n)

    On whether, or not, Harriet Harman is thick.

    When I said thick, I was talking in its sense of being stupid. You gave two non-extensional possibilities and I meant neither of those. It is rather more than the first and considerably less than the second.

    Bertrand Russell said: The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. He was right about this.

    Intelligence and success, in terms of outputs, often do not coincide.

    For the purposes of intelligence, itself a term of some debate, may I take it we could agree for this purpose on the “Mainstream Science on Intelligence” model (1994)?


    A very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings—”catching on,” “making sense” of things, or “figuring out” what to do.

    So people can be regarded by the majority as being intelligent if they are a barrister, a doctor, an airline pilot, an engineer or whatever such occupation requires a normative skills set. Outside of that skills set, however, they may run upon shoals which an average uneducated person might well avoid.

    So there is one way an intelligent person may also be thick.

    But even within their chosen area, their pursuit of it can become entangled with financial gain, exposure, fame or a number of other motives and they allow these to override their own training. (A frequent BW theme.)

    There is another way which we have all seen happen in politics.

    Neither way classifies the person as a retard, I am sure you will agree. However each way demands that more ridicule needs to be heaped on them than merely being called thick i.e. your first option.

    But there is (dare I say these words!) a third way.

    People often have in their makeup a blindness to some aspects of life. It can stem from illness for sure but also from emotional difficulties, from inculcation and a whole number of other ways. Metaphorically, it is like opening a 1,000 piece jigsaw and realising after an hour that there are complete sections missing. One could never tell that simply from looking at the newly opened box with all the pieces in a pile.

    Whilst I understand your point about not creating a hostage to fortune, I have experienced this phenomenon in so many otherwise seemingly intelligent people. Until someone comes up with a different explanation of this, I will regard those who hold bombastically to their views (as uncritically as a drowning man to a lifebelt) as thick. When they dismiss all dissenting argument with ad hominem, that seals the deal.

    In this sense, Harriet Harman is thick. Supremely so!

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    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    A better way to put it is this.

    In A’merica there was the civil rights movement, and there is a vague argument that some folk of darker complexion built some infrastructure. (Completely glossing over the fact that Ch!nese labour built most of the railways, and !ndian science / engineering supported getting man to the moon…)

    Question is: What have this lot done here other than burn down council estates and keep the crime figures propped up ?

    Just sayin’

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    JadedJean7 says:

    One of the best posts I’ve read on here for at least a couple of years.

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    Triplets says:

    No. Looks more like three sets.

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    Diane's fashion tips says:

    No, she’s modelling a spare tyre from a dumper truck.

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    Ah! thank god says:

    Ukraine….at least I live in a country that doesn’t have corrupt politicians.

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    Podiceps says:

    Crab pie with chilli sauce.
    Lamb and veg.
    Pig, burnt nuts and more veg (including boiled salad).
    Wine.
    Anozher bottle [hic] waiter.

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    Táxpáyér says:

    It must be this warmer weather, your tin-foil hat is causing your brain to cook.

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    Podiceps says:

    Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
    Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
    — John Harington, inventor of the flushing lavatory

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    Táxpáyér says:

    He sounds like he’s “blowing”…

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    Back alley Sally says:

    Only 5?
    Lightweight.

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    Ah! Cazual (n) says:

    Take Cat’s tip. Reset your Modem and Router and get back to your original moniker. problem is Cat’s memory is failing. Otherwise he might advise you thus.

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    Táxpáyér says:

    Oh and Private Eye were MMR nonse-sense publishers.

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    Táxpáyér says:

    I don’t see any internet news.

    I see a 24Hour left wing narrative, but it’s nothing like news.

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    Ah! remember says:

    My old mum used to say ” there’s no such thing as a dark1e with straight hair ”

    Was she wrong?

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    thomas says:

    Crapp

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    Táxpáyér says:

    We need reciprocation, not tolerance. Tolerance is a lefty bullshit-bingo phrase that’s obviously self-destructive.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    Crmm or is it SC – your comment has been noted. i don’t need several monikers to state a piece or two. If i state something and throw dirt you can be sure i have at the very least good and sound evidence to back up the statement. However some on here expect everything served to them on a plate, by way of evidence. Not possible. Never be a predictable little sheep is a motto i like.

    with ref to the harpic toxic one / subject. i dare say that a lot of the info and data gathered by Chil.dline (bbc!) was used for purposes other than what was publicly claimed by rancid and some of her colleagues – in fact could there have been pie connections?

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    Interesting re: Watson. And as i was saying the other day … on that very subject???

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    Observer says:

    is Fatbot suffering from alopecia?

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    Whisky Galore says:

    Without an E

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    The BBC says:

    But we covered the NCCL story as soon as Harriet wanted a platform for her denials we could

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    Genghiz the kahn says:

    Harman is like clotted cream, thick and rich.

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    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    Agree with your argument above about thick for stupid, but in the case of H’arman things are a lot simpler.

    You are missing the psychology at play here.

    Difference between H’arman and H’ewitt: H’arman prefers power.

    She could have left politics on high note like H’ewitt did (nb. I use G’uido scale to measure ‘high’) and gone into a high paid job. Why didn’t she ? Because power is what gets her off, not money, ‘prestige’ or even clearly her family life.

    Now, in terms of her being stupid she is not. But she has made a very significant blunder in terms of strategy lately, especially on the P.I.E. issue. Mistakes do not translate to stupidity.

    Seeing as she is progressing with her part in tightening press freedom whilst this is ongoing, and doing whatever else she does within her party and for her constituents, my assumption would be that she doesn’t care about the M’ail storm because when the press is under control the story can be killed and the public will forget about it.

    This is flawed thinking, but it isn’t stupid: Mistaking for stupidity excuses it.

    There is an absolutist thought at play, which is a hallmark of a particular type of psychopathy. Absolutist thought is required in order to counter.

    H’arman knew exactly what she was getting involved with at NCCL, she knew and ignored the moral and ethical issues relating to the P.I.E. (which many others are on the record at the time stating they could not – which is why they avoided or left the NCCL), got herself into a high position within politics and we have seen the damage that her touch has helped do to the country. She continues to ignore the moral and ethical issues, and instead is seeking purely to protect her position and is not demonstrating any form of remorse of acceptance that perhaps past decisions were wrong.

    The only way to deal with this problem is to have her removed from her current position of power before she causes any further damage.

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    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    The so called bedroom tax is only hated by the scrounging benefit chavs
    we the taxpayers LOVE it !!

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    Hain is scum says:

    Cameron is about to have Northern Ireland back on his table due to the duplicity of his officials over issuing get out of jail free, and Royal Prerogative of mercy to IRA murderers.
    Stormont will collapse.

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    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    W’atson perhaps has his eye on H’arman’s job.

    For sure if he is to progress in the party, he needs her out.

    When he raised the question about R’ighton he probably knew who was going to cop the most flak at some point – his boss at the time – H’arman.

    She probably didn’t sanction him to raise the question, which raises another question. Who did ? I do not believe that W’atson got to that point of asking about R’ighton alone.

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    spadger says:

    Never play leapfrog with a Greek.

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    Táxpáyér says:

    The spare room subsidy isn’t hated by taxpayers nor those waiting for social housing.

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    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    Ah yes , black history month, when we celebrate the contribution of the black community in the fields of art , literature, nuclear physics , medicine , architecture , engineering, scientific discovery, chemistry and rap music !!

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    Táxpáyér says:

    Murders are a statistic to sociopaths/Marx-worshippers.

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    CRMM mentioned you, didn’t he? Why can’t you just accept the compliment and not try to turn it into a subject centred around you? Do you have some ego problem going on?

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    Táxpáyér says:

    Delighted to keep subsidising people in oversize houses eh?

    Bet that keeps housing even more short and keeps profits for your BtLs higher.

    Rent-seeking scum.

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    Podiceps says:

    Harington’s book, The Metamorphosis of Ajax (a jakes, geddit?) was long and flowery. He later wrote condensed instructions for building it:

    In the privy that annoys you, first cause a cistern, containing a barrel, or upward, to be placed either in the room or above it, from whence the water may, by a small pipe of lead of an inch be conveyed under the seat in the hinder part thereof (but quite out of sight); to which pipe you must have a small cock or washer, to yield water with some pretty strength when you would let it in.

    Next make a vessel of an oval form, as broad at the bottom as at the top; two feet deep, one foot broad, sixteen inches long; place this very close to your seat, like the pot of a close-stool, let the oval incline to the right hand. This vessel may be of brick, stone or lead; but whatsoever it is, it should have a current of three inches to the back part of it (where a sluice of brass must stand); the bottom and sides all smooth, and dressed with pitch, rosin and wax: which will keep it from tainting with the urine.

    In the lowest part of the vessel which will be on the right hand, you must fasten the sluice or washer of brass, with solder or cement; the concavity or hollow thereof, must be two inches and a half.

    To the washers stopples must be a stem of iron as big as a curtain rod; strong and even, and perpendicular, with a strong screw at the top of it; to which you must have a hollow key with a worm fit to that screw.

    This screw must, when the sluice is down appear through the plank not above a straw’s breadth on the right hand; and being duly placed, it will stand about three or four inches wide of the midst of the back of your seat.

    That the children and busy folk disorder it not, or open the sluice with putting in their hands without a key, you should have a little button or scallop shell, to bind it down with a vice pin, so as without the key it will not be opened.

    If water be plenty, the oftener it is used and opened, the sweeter; but if it be scant, once a day is enough, for a need, though twenty persons should use it …. And this being well done, and orderly kept, your worst privy may be as sweet as your best chamber.

    But to conclude all this in a few words it is but a standing close-stool easily emptied. And by the like reason (other forms and proportions observed) all other places of your house may be kept sweet.

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    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    To further on your ‘third way': Cognitive block is the term – it should be kept separate.

    This can be a mix of nature or nurture. There are plenty of riddles out there which highlite mainly the nurture case.

    Does this represent thickness ? No. It does represent a fundamental block in the thought pattern.

    Folk with absolutist mindsets also suffer from this. My crude model for this is to compare integer set numbers and arithmetic against real.

    I believe this is separate to measures of intelligence, but really go to the question of sanity itself – think in terms of repetition and expectation of different outcomes.

    That is why I believe that with H’arman there is something fundamentally far more dangerous at work which is why questions of intelligence are really beside the point. Look behind her mask – it is evil.
    ;-)

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    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    This is another deliberate Labour time bomb that has slowly been ticking away , the depth of their treason is astounding , never before has this country suffered from such malfeasance at the hands of any government Brown and Blair and all their collaborators should be arrested.

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    Vince Cable says:

    I have used about two hundred different monikers. i have no idea what my original moniker was.

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    Armchair Civilian says:

    I bet he wishes he hadn’t sacked so many infantry

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    Táxpáyér says:

    More than just ego.

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    Stopper says:

    I bet they didn’t talk about that ‘history’ thing for much longer than it took for the first of the food to arrive.

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    Táxpáyér says:

    or use a free proxy server.

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    RVW etc etc says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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    Der Fuehrer von Kilkardy says:

    To spread my poo from my anus down the back of my thigh. Five letters

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    Der Fuehrer von Kilkardy says:

    So, in short, The sweaties will have full access to the BBC, but will not be required to pay for it.

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    A sardine says:

    Cornish?

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    Size is important says:

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    He was a man of many talents, not just three says:

    And psychiatrist! Although they did call it “casting out demons” in those days.

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    It's really not that difficult says:

    We went through all this before WWII. A libertarian society must fight to the death any ideology that would challenge libertarianism.

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    Harman has not made a significant blunder, she has made a whole series of them! Roy Greenslade lists them here:

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/25/harriet-harman-daily-mail-smear-inept

    Agree with the psychology point as to motive. Harman probably does not need the money anyway. It is often the case that the offspring of rich and privileged people develop a distain for money. They have not had to make it and would not know where to start anyway. So they look for different objectives to pursue. Power is clearly the obvious motivator here. So we are still together on this.

    Mistakes do not translate to stupidity? Oft repeated ones do, IMO. Mistaking for stupidity excuses it? No it doesn’t! If a doctor made mistakes as frequently as this he would (or ought to be) struck off. If a pilot crashed six planes in as many days and survived, he would be out of a job too, if they were crazy enough to let him get that far! The whole point about stupidity is that it is inexcusable a fortiori in such a role of responsibility.

    {tbc}

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    Agree with the absolutist point without accepting that it nullifies my stupidity view. Psychopathy can be combined with basic stupidity and may well be present, given the background. I am not competent to say.

    No process exists for removing her in her role as deputy leader of the Labour Party, it being an electoral college appointment. Neither as an MP. They flunked that one!

    I can see that the Mail is angling for her removal. It will have to come up with more as she is just brazening it out at the moment. I sincerely hope they have more up their sleeve and are letting her and her party stick their heads way above the parapet so they can then take them all out. We shall have to wait on this. If they do, then clearly Miliband will have to go too. Stupidity will be no defence here either.

    One last point. A clincher:
    On her blog she used “Harriet” and “Harman” as her u’sername and p’assword. Case closed! :-D

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    Agree with the absolutist point without accepting that it nullifies my stupidity view. Psychopathy can be combined with basic stupidity and may well be present, given the background. I am not competent to say.

    No process exists for removing her in her role as deputy leader of the Labour Party, it being an electoral college appointment. Neither as an MP. They flunked that one!

    {tbc}

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    I can see that the Mail is angling for her removal. It will have to come up with more as she is just brazening it out at the moment. I sincerely hope they have more up their sleeve and are letting her and her party stick their heads way above the parapet so they can then take them all out. We shall have to wait on this. If they do, then clearly Miliband will have to go too. Stupidity will be no defence here either.

    {tbc}

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    Táxpáyér says:

    “Bertrand Russell said: ”

    However Dunning & Kruger showed

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

    The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.[1] Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding.

    David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University conclude, “the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others”

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    Uisce Beatha says:

    Unless, of course, they want to make Irish Whiskey….

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    Only a matter of time before they get their ragheads kicked in says:

    I’ve just caught up with the news about the two muzee raghead c-unts kicking off in court today. I’m glad they’re both going to die in prison. And I’m not even referring to the whole life tariff and 45 year sentences. British inmates with a loathing for terrorists will tear these two fucking muzee pieces of shit to shreds.

    And you can just bet that the likes of Owen Jones and Guardian readers will be angry at the sentences. They love muzee terrorists and hate the likes of Lee Rigby.

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    Uisce Beatha says:

    …. with an ‘E’

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    I can see that the M’ail is a’ngling for her r’emoval. It will have to come up with more as she is just b’razening it out at the moment.

    {tbc}

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    Táxpáyér says:

    Can we see Maria sans shreddies?

  242. 242
    OK Jonesy, tie yourself to the Titanic if that's how you want it says:

    Let the little twerp dig himself in deeper. We all know where Venezuela is headed and young Jones is fastening himself to the sinking ship

  243. 243

    My own research has completely disproved their theories.

  244. 244

    I s!n-cer-ely hope they have m’ore up their s’leeve and are l’et-ting her and her p’arty stick their h’eads way a’bove the p’ar’apet so they can then take them all out. We s’hall have to wait on this. If they do, then c’learly M!liband will have to go too. S’tupidity will be no d’ef-ence here e!th’er.

    {tbc}

  245. 245

    One last point. A clincher:
    On her blog she used “Harriet” and “Harman” as her username and password. Case closed! :-D

    *Fuck me! I got there!*

  246. 246
    Don't Cry for me my Diane says:

    A former boxing world champion has been found shot dead on a road after he was kidnapped in his native Venezuela.

  247. 247
  248. 248
    Ah! for the good old days says:

    When Guido owned this blog.

    see what tomorrow brings.

  249. 249
    They really are this stupid says:

    They are 20 IQ points more stupid than the average white person. Burning down council estates is already a achievement for them – they have worked out how to use matches.

  250. 250
    They really are this stupid says:

    We need a whole month for that? I should imagine we could fit it into an hour.

  251. 251
    Journalistic Norms says:

    54/85
    Sounds pretty normal.

  252. 252
    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    They will be protected round the clock in an all muzzie cell block where they will be worshiped by the other prisoners

  253. 253

    I am obliged to you. Cognitive block is exactly the term which I was grasping for unsuccessfully but could not remember because of er, well, cognitive block! :-D :-D

    In all my writing on this, my feelings of plain stupidity do not, in my book at least, mitigate against your arguments here and above.

    Do I think she is evil as well? Yes, in a word.

    You seem to think that my characterisation may prejudice your case, you used the word excuse, but (and maybe I’m missing something here) but I don’t think it does.

    Finally, I have a feeling that Russell’s Theory of Types may be brought into play in efficacious manner. One may not mix different levels of argument here. I suspect that we may be doing that.

  254. 254

    I wish you would desist from sexualising Harriet Harman. She is not of age, mentally.

  255. 255
    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    On the point of her username / password: Yes – that is stupid.

    I think QED to you :-D

    As for the M’ail – they have lit the blue touch paper, it is smouldering.

    Never go back to a firework if it doesn’t go off immediately.

  256. 256
    There's something not quite right about her says:

    She attempted to pass two pieces of legislation whilst in power:

    1] Positive discrimination for women and ethnic minorities

    2] Banning men from buying s e x

    Both were kicked into touch by her own party. So there does seem to be something not quite right with her brain. Aspergers perhaps? Some form of high functioning autism that prevents her from relating to the reactions of ordinary people?

  257. 257
    Do keep up, we already know how keen Labour is to cover up for p e e d o s says:

    You’re late Jimmy – that one was delat with hours ago.

  258. 258

    Bloody hell!

    I had Shreddies for breakfast this morning.

    Did not fart once…

    (That slapper had a bit of an iffy boat.)

  259. 259
    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    HOW ?

  260. 260
    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    Not at all: You proved your case to me just above. (I did not know about that detail).

    The following is a key observation on my part which I hope pulls into focus my position on this:

    She is a woman, a mother, who had no qualms about working for an organization and with an organization by proxy of the P.I.E. nature.

    She did this voluntarily as a career stepping stone.

    She has refused point blank to concede in any way that this may have been an error of judgement on her part.

    The implications of this are profound are very big indicators of what is going on here.

  261. 261
    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    It is particularly annoying when you have composed good lengthy comment and then find it won’t go this is especially hard on those of us who struggle to type by using just our right index fingers.

  262. 262
    Special Forces says:

    This time, they should send in the U.N.

  263. 263
    Null hypothesis says:

    Cheeky!

    You should clear your cache too. :-)

    (If you want any help on this, just send me all your cash.)

  264. 264
    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    I defy any pair of shreddies to have the slightest effect after drinking about 13 pints of 6X after a sunday lunch.

  265. 265
    Null hypothesis says:

    Sounds rather like the local method of making grappa.

  266. 266
  267. 267
    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    If you are suggesting that those images are sexual in nature, I would sincerely hope that your IP is reported to the authorities.

  268. 268

    Needless to say, I am in complete agreement with you on this key observation. Thank you for acknowledging that funny detail!

    In the much broader field of knowledge, I do seriously feel that Russell’s face saver/sticking plaster for Principia Mathematica has much wider application (and in a more important manner than he intended) than we have all realised.

    Consequently we are much closer to the beginning of discovery than to the end of it. If true, this also means that our growth in understanding can gather apace for a considerable time to come.

    It will require a new set of logical rules in differentiating between one level and another but clearly the potential for misuse is also very great especially by mindsets similar to Harman.

  269. 269

    This was a part of how this discussion started some pages ago. It may be that we are all subject one way or another to this.

    Whilst saying that, I do not wish to make excuses for other peoples’ wrongdoings but rather to discover how some views appear to be so wide of the mark.

    We have strayed into a number of areas here which appear discrete. But they all contribute to the same result.

    At its extreme are the megalomaniacs of history whom we can all safely describe as evil. What good does that actually do?

    What circumstances, innate or acquired, brought about their awful behaviour? It would certainly be useful to know this but extraordinarily, it seems to be an ignored subject.

  270. 270
    Táxpáyér says:

    Can we stop Senior labour party figures encouraging sexual abuse of children and no-longer support PIE?

    Labour = P43do party.

  271. 271
    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    Bit of a wishy washy article from the left about R’igby case:

    http://www.leftfootforward.org/2014/02/misunderstanding-the-nature-of-the-attack-on-lee-rigby-consequences/

    Countering extremism, or even speaking of that is missing the point.

    An overhaul counter-terrorism is what is required: Counter-insurgency perhaps is more appropriate for the UK now.

  272. 272

    Presumably, Jimmy, if you think those images are wrong, your solution would be to ban all photograph taking of children of either sex until they reached the age of majority. Have I got that right?

    So what was Harriet Harman arguing the opposite case for?

  273. 273

    I had wondered what was affecting the jetstream recently.

  274. 274
    Anonymous says:

    Laurie Penny and your good self should get it on and, maybe, who knows, you might fuck each other straight.

  275. 275
    Anonymous says:

    Not if some of the lags get their hand on them, which I fear will happen despite whatever efforts are to be deployed to protect the scum. Quite a brace of trophies – I just hope the lags don’t injure their hands.

  276. 276
    Null hypothes!s says:

    We have S’ha’ria c’ourts to deal with this. The tr’ouble is that they use l!be’ral left Ra’wls!an!sm rather than the retr!butive just!ce p’ref’erred by the cou’rts in the m!ddle ea’st.

    !f we had some ha’nds cut off for b’urg’lars, be’head!ngs for mu’rder’ers – I think you have the p!cture, then that would be much more eff’ect!ve.

    !t wo’uld also avo!d the awful eff’ect of offe’nding M’usl!m se’nsib!l!ties.

  277. 277
    Null hypothes!s says:

    See below…

  278. 278
    Jimmy says:

    Perhaps the Daily Hitler was an affiliate?

  279. 279
    Jimmy says:

    If you feel that strongly about the link then cancel your PIE membership.

  280. 280
    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    ‘The Labour Party and H’arriet H’arman have a sinister track record of presenting underage girls in a deeply inappropriate and sexualised manner. This has to stop, and H’arriet H’arman should show contrition by making a generous contribution to the NSPCC, should meet with children’s charities to discuss her association with the P.I.E. and do the cinnamon challenge.’

    The petition’s initiator should be the D’aily M’ail readership.

    The cinnamon challenge is demonstrated thus:

  281. 281
    Cazual Observer 9 says:

    Could give H’arman Cayenne Pepper without telling her of course…

  282. 282
    Anonymous says:

    All muzzie cell blocks? Does that suggest that there’s a disproportionate number of muzzies in British clinks?

  283. 283
    tv watcher says:

    I read somewhere on here that the NCCL/PIE was basically homos at work to make their agendas/lifestyles more acceptable to the general public. Is that the reason why fattypoof Dale was so earnest in defending pedalo supporter Harpic on the press review I have just watched? He claims she was only a 25 year old junior officer who was not senior enough to have any say in anything.

    But I also read she was the organisation’s :Head of Legal: (whatever that is) – so surely she must have had a considerable amount of power in her hands?

    Sio the question is: What is Dale’s real motive for his position on all this?

  284. 284
    A Geedo-Reader (Miss) says:

    Look, I am just a fucking stupid ill bred ignorant narcissistic cvnt who likes to spout crap each and every day – oh and load my portraits up to Geedo’s blog so you can all see how bloody wonderful I really am.

    Now shut up and pay your bedroom taxes you rich bastards.

    PS: Do you like my new watch?

  285. 285
    A Geedo-Reader (Miss) says:

    He can do that when their ugly money-grubbing lawyers mount the appeals.

  286. 286
    A Geedo-Reader (Miss) says:

    Poncy gits. What’s wrong with a simple lasagne and a cappuccino?

  287. 287
    A Geedo-Reader (Miss) says:

    The ever so slightly more important question that needs an answer is:- why is it that the 2 Liebore MPs (see also Chucky above) displaying this propaganda notice are of a well-tanned hue?” Are there no longer any ‘normal’ white trash MPs who can do this sort of pathetic stuff?

  288. 288
    A Dead Sea Blog Scroll says:

    No No and No!!

    It is written: “And the Lord sayeth unto Moses, all good people will have long noses – excepting Aaron, who will have a square ‘un”.

  289. 289
    Head Butt says:

    Is that the new word for total and utter thickness of the brain?

  290. 290
    John Bellingham says:

    I think that there has been a miscarriage of justice. The Woolwich Two are clearly quite, quite mad. They should rather have been sent to a secure facility for an indeterminate period, there to sit drugged to the nines in a pool of their own liquids until they die.
    The message to other believers in the Arabian Sky Demon that their cult is a mental illness, might just get home to them.

  291. 291
    Head Butt says:

    Oh dear, sorry, that came too late. I have just sold the last of my bridges.

  292. 292
    Snake and Sydney PIE says:

    Harman’s pressure group advertised for members in magazine for p dough files: New evidence links NCCL to PIE while Harriet was legal chief
    Abuse group leader, Tom O’Carroll said: they didn’t try and make us leave
    Appeal for members was published in ‘Year of the Child’ edition in 1979
    Former minister Patricia Hewitt shared platform with PIE leader in 1977
    Three senior Labour figures all held key roles in the council
    Group granted ‘affiliate’ status to the group of predatory pee dough files

    Daily mail

  293. 293
    Handypara says:

    Some white people have a few Neanderthal genes but clearly not those mediating for large broad nose size.
    When Sapiens S. left Africa they had large broad noses but they evolved away in Europe.

  294. 294
    Blairs deal says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26359906

    This is very very bad for labour and Blair.

    The secret letters or get out of jail free cards.

  295. 295
    Labour Friends of a dictator guilty of murder says:

    Was he extreme right winger seeking to overthrow a democratically fixed government that has run the country into the ground while shooting innocent bystanders.

    or is that fuckwit Owen just talking more bullshit again?

  296. 296
    I type with my toes says:

    You should get a real life.

  297. 297
    non taxable pikey says:

    Please stop using Americanisms. I know the c is silent but in the
    UK it’s crap music.

  298. 298
    A Pensioner says:

    If the toilets in those all Muzzie cell blocks are anything like I’ve encountered in India and P’akistan, then they wont make the 45 yrs.

  299. 299
    Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? says:

    I would not be syrprised if Tony ended up shot one day

  300. 300
    Oy Vey ! says:

    A bookmaker has opened themselves up for criticism after controversially offering odds on Oscar Pistorius’s murder trial.
    Somewhat tastelessly placed in the ‘Novelty Bets’ section of the website, Paddy Power have come under fire on social media for their ‘gone too far’ offering.
    Under the title ‘Premeditated murder charge verdict’, the bookmaker has offered odds on ‘Guilty’ and ‘Not guilty’ ahead of the start of the trial.
    A further description reads: “Singles Only. Applies to the verdict of Oscar Pistorius’ first trial for the charge of premeditated murder. Bets void should charge be changed from ‘premeditated murder’ before verdict. Bets void should mistrial be declared.”

  301. 301
    M­a­qboul says:

    You are very generous to suggest he has a brain. The irony of his ramblings is that he is slavishly purveying the lefty line rather than having an idea of his own. His masters tell this Useful Idiot that this is a mos­sad site and he is so dumb he will embarress himself by repeating it ad nauseum until the next instruction arrives.

    What’s that? Mur­doch has decided to support the Conservative Party, you say? Then he has suddenly become the anti-christ. Alert the minions! To the blogs, comrades!

  302. 302
    Prime Minister"Money's no object" Cameron says:

    I got my anus bleached, when Samantha left the domestos bottle down the bog.

  303. 303
    Two podgy bumboys sharing an icecream says:

    Some like it hot.

  304. 304
    And says:

    We’ve all now seen the legal letters she
    initialised.
    Not smears,cold hard proof.

  305. 305
    Baaaaaaaaaaaaa'a lu akhbar says:

  306. 306
    the list keeps growing says:

    It’s about time the Tories started fighting back
    and reminding the electorate of these facts.

  307. 307
    just asking says:

    Does Bob Crow have spare rooms in his council house?

  308. 308
    Floyd Pink says:

    Harman is a nonce-sense publisher

  309. 309
    JH945894343432945 says:

    You think all those followers are real people?

    150’000 of them are probably automated accounts. The Twitter API means you can control thousands of accounts remotely and autonomously, without needing to actually log in as such.

  310. 310
    JH945894343432945 says:

    PS – and how many of his followers are just people who enjoy the sensation of their own piss coming to the boil?

  311. 311
    I don't understand says:

    Harman complained about a Daily Mail picture allegedly
    sexualising children by reproducing the very same picture.

  312. 312
    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    They themselves are immune to the effects.

  313. 313
    Floyd Pink says:

    No silly. You only get prosecuted for inciting hatred if you say something against Anjem Choudary. Especially if you are a working, white middle-class christian.

  314. 314
    surely she hasn't been telling porkies? says:

    But Harman has claimed repeatedly that PIE was pushed
    to the fringes on the NCCL in 1976.

  315. 315
    Asslick Almond says:

  316. 316
    Merkel's Germany Calling says:

    With reference to Mr Cameron’s request for a renegotiation of the Lisbon Treaty…Mr Cameron can…how do you say in English…fuck off!

    By the way, most of his party prefer me as leader and most of your Labour Party prefer Mr Cameron to me.

  317. 317
    T.B£iar - the People's Messiah says:

  318. 318
    SNP's entirely predictable response says:

    No! No! No! No!

    [Stamps foot]

    [Stamps foot again]

    [Looks pointedly at Nicola Sturgeon]

    [Pause]

    [Nicola Sturgeon stamps foot]

    (Together) No! No! No! No!

  319. 319
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Oi! That’s my line. This blog isn’t big enough for two raving single-issue fanatics.

  320. 320
    jgm2 says:

    You forgot..

    ‘We’re being bullied, waaaaaaah, make that bully stop mammy. Make him go away mammmy, waaaaaaah’

  321. 321
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Yes, strange to post something that can be read on the source website itself. About as pointless as posting Google links.

  322. 322
    MIKE OXHARD says:

    Can we please see the names of the MP’s of BOTH parties , who agreed to Royal pardons and immunity from prosecution letters for over 200 IRA terrorists ?

  323. 323
    Anonymous says:

    Frank Bruno’s taken a turn for the worse.

  324. 324
    Side 1 also has a side 2 says:

    So Standard Life can’t do business from a country that it has done business with for years, sack the directors and sales teams, what’s a badly run company doing in business anyway, oh! it’s just to scare the Scots into saying no, taking sides, not a business to do business with then.

  325. 325
    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    Can we see the name of the one MP who held the office of PM when this act of treason was carried out?

  326. 326
    Two podgy bumboys sharing an icecream says:

    Admirable restraint when it came to dessert though. Or do they enjoy the “sharing”?

  327. 327
    Two podgy bumboys sharing an icecream says:

    Don’t forget the shared icecream.

    You lick my spoon, I’ll lick yours.

  328. 328

    If you wantajob, you can always findajob, Thats the truth innit!!!

  329. 329
    Tom Catesby. says:

    But his he happy among the artichokes? that’s what counts.

  330. 330
    RightwinggitRedux says:

    “Harriet Hopeless…..she’s a cow.”

    “..she’s not that bright, and-worst sin of all-she has no sense of humour”

    -Gyles Brandreth, Breaking the Code.

  331. 331
    personal and Confidential says:

    The next instruction has arrived. It is : Learn to spell ad nauseAm properly – or don’t use it at all.

  332. 332
    lady astor's son-in-law says:

    restaurant staff spit in the food!

  333. 333
    RightwinggitRedux says:

    Tony Benn suggested that, many years ago.

    The idea had popular support.

  334. 334
    Saville Inquiry says:

    Can we see the names of the Paratroopers who murdered the fourteen innocent civilians on Bloody Sunday, and thereby spawned the IRA?

  335. 335
    SIZE 14 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    If they had fired SLRs into a crowd as alleged , a few more than 14 would have been killed !


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