February 26th, 2014

Ed Backs Green Party-Style Purge of Climate Change Sceptics

At PMQs Ed went on the attack over Owen Paterson’s sceptical comments about climate change. The line of questioning reminded Guido of the Green Party’s recent totalitarian demand for a purge of climate change sceptics from ministerial and adviser positions in government. A Labour spokesman has confirmed to Guido that Miliband backs a similar ban.

“The qualification for being in a Labour government is rationality and believing in clear scientific evidence.”

Anyone working in a Labour government would be required to accept the party’s position on climate change. Anyone who doesn’t won’t be allowed to join. Dissenters will be exiled…


  1. 1
    T.B£iar - the People's Messiah says:

    We need a Hutton style enquiry into Climate Change.


    • 4
      Dissent will NOT be tolerated says:

      When will they pass the criminal offence of “Climate change denier”?


      • 7
        Ed Millibandwagon says:

        All climate change sceptics will be
        tarred and feathered.
        We’d like to burn them at the stake but
        that would increase global warming.


        • 12
          RED LEN says:

          If you’d stop spouting hot air, the problem would go away.


        • 41
          hadley freeeeeeman says:

          You’re all sexist-racist.

          Don’t like it? Well we will enrich you out of existence.

          Haha, be awesome like me, cool sunglasses, yeah feminism, freedom for abortion and to let men fuck without responsibility…

          What’s that? The Islamic Republic of Great Britain no longer allows women to be seen in public? But we are all enriched by multiculturalism. It’s intersectionaility? What about 23rd wave feminism? But I was told the cool hip young people wanted it and only white people and men (groups I really hate, there just like not as cool and never have any culture is it?) opposed to it. So confused H4dley! Need new handbag.


          • Scallywag says:

            You can feel the enrichment in this video.

            Attorney General considers whether single punch killing sentence was ‘too lenient’


            “Andrew Young, 40, who suffered from Asperger’s Syndrome, became embroiled in an argument with Victor Ibitoye after he had told him that cycling on the pavement was dangerous.”


          • hadley freeeeeeman says:

            That’s racist. He is only here to enrich us and his so-called victim – check your privilege while males – was probably a slave owner before. He will have had to undergo persecution all his life for being BME Black, held back in a racist white society so we should sympathise. He could work as an outreach community organiser one day.

            Anyway it doesn’t matter, look at the US and UK demographic trends – in your face whitey, it won’t be your country much longer,


        • 55
          Sir William Wayde says:

          This is what happens when powerful belief systems are challenged. I’d give CO2 ideology another ten years, max.


        • 267
          Corby says:

          Surely the default position on climate change should e one of scepticism?

          We know that the climate changes – it has as long as the planet has existed. However, we do not know the causes of the changes, nor their pace. Not so long ago we were told that our children would not see snow in their lifetimes.

          In the past there have been very large changes occurring very quickly eg the end of the dinosaurs. More recently the coming of the last ice age killed mammoths where they stood. Similarly the reassertion of the Greenland icecap killed off the farmer settlers in less than a generation. The human race seems to be quite good at surviving sudden changes in temperature and floods eg the flooding of the now named English Channel. However, bigger events like huge volcanic eruptions and collision with large asteroids see have a much bigger impact of species survival. Just where we are at the moment we do not know., and the whole position could be changed by an asteroid or large comet.

          The left is up to its old tricks of attributing an absurd position to sceptics, by labelling them deniers: a sceptic is a sceptic and a seeker after truth.


      • 76
        Hatty Harman says:

        We only ban climate change deniers, but welcome all paedophiles.


    • 11
      in the best possible taste says:

      the science is pretty unequivocal. climate change is real.

      only the flat earthers and self interested would argue otherwise.

      however, should people be precluded from govt because all of the experts disagree with them, probably not. otherwise how could we explain Michael Gove.


      • 16
        Gary Upton says:

        Climate change is real and has never been challenged, how can it be. Man made climate change, if it exists, how much, how little is the debate and the scientific research and that is certainly not settled.


        • 187
          I dislike socialists intensely says:

          The climate has always changed over the years and seasons , but there
          is a whole new industry promoting and enriching themselves over it. I think that it is one big scam .If you go back in history people have
          always complained about the weather .


          • RichUpNorth says:

            Climate change zealots talk about the Earth getting hotter, but what temperature should the planet be? What is the optimum temperature for Earth?


      • 18
        Bill Quango MP says:

        Are you allowed to believe that the climate is changing but that windfarms and higher taxation are not the solutions?


      • 21
        Keitho says:

        Well spotted, climate change is real. That is an uncontroversial statement if ever there was one.

        The issue is over the man made part and what should be done about it if such a thing is possible. Given the vagaries of the weather and the accepted fact of warming having gone away why is the purported man made component being seen as catastrophic?

        Put another way, if the undefined extreme weather events are caused by us what is causing all of the ordinary, infinitely more frequent, weather events?


      • 35
        Rickytshirt says:

        “the science is pretty unequivocal.”

        What science?

        It’s customary for scientists to look again at their hypotheses when results contradict their predictions.

        All we’re hearing is a repeated mantra in the face of data contradicting all predictions.

        Climate Science has more in common with a religion or cult than actual science.


        • 121
          The Critic says:

          Let me get this right. If something is unequivocal, it’s absolute or unqualified.
          So it either is or it is not. Prefacing the word with a qualification e.g. it’s ‘pretty,unequivocally disproves the fact that it is unequivocal?

          Ed ties himself up in further knots. Fairly unique in his case…….


      • 36
        jimbo says:

        But the experts don’t all disagree.

        Climates change. Always have and always will. In the distant past CO2 levels were higher than today for example. They fluctuate. Temperatures in one place can fluctuate, year on year, by up to 4 degrees.

        The question is how much is caused by man? Here the “scientific consensus” (not that consensus should have any place in hard science) breaks down. Many disagree how much is from man and how accurately such a thing can be measure. Nearly all think it possible man is contributing through greenhouse gases.

        Next question is how important is it. Richard Lindzen, MIT professor and an expert in the field has often pointed out that slight changes in temperature and CO2 are not anything new.

        Antoher question is what can we do? While China builds another coal power station every month or two, will Ed Militwat destroying British industry with green regulation actually help? No, it will just excite the bedwetters who read the Guardian.


        • 89
          Skeleton bob says:

          Your last paragraph is very important. Unless the other major countries like China, Russia, etc commit the same priority to climate change as we have been forced into then it is like, say, putting up flood defences in the Somerset levels but ignoring them everywhere else. Bonkers!

          And just putting up flood defences is equally bonkers if the Liblabcons continue to allow uncontrolled immigration which puts pressure on planners to allow houses to be built in areas liable to flood.


          • The Critic says:

            Exactly so. Why do successive governments increase man made activity then state that the very same activity is the root cause of the problem? If they are correct, how will subsidising wind farms cure this problem? Will we each be requirde to have one implanted?


          • Cinna says:

            I have 26 wind turbines near me. They blight the view from where I now sit. The people who erected them now want to double that number. The “spokesman” on the tv last week said he couldn’t understand any objections because it’s “free energy”.

            Well, it might be free to them, but to try and pull that one with the consumers who are paying through the nose for this “free energy” is an insult to our intelligence.


          • richardscourtney says:

            Cinna says of wind turbines at February 26, 2014 at 7:54 pm.
            “ The “spokesman” on the tv last week said he couldn’t understand any objections because it’s “free energy”.”

            All energy is free. It was all created at the Big Bang. But collecting energy and concentrating it into a useful form costs time, money and effort.
            Fortunately, nature has done much of the collection and concentration for us.

            For example,
            Fossil fuels are solar energy collected by photosynthesis which was conducted by plants over geological ages and is available as compressed and dried material.
            Biomass is solar energy collected by photosynthesis which is conducted by plants over a few growing seasons and is available as uncompressed and wet material.

            With the exception of hydropower there is no possibility of ‘renewables’ replacing fossil fuels and nuclear power. In reality, the reverse happened.
            Wind power, solar power, and the muscle power of animals and slaves were displaced when the greater energy intensity in fossil fuels became available by use of the steam engine.



        • 256
          Arrest Bliar says:

          China builds a 600MW coal fired power station every week (about 36GW p.a.)


      • 37
        Lord Stansted says:

        Climate change is real:

        Please define:
        1. climate
        2. real
        3. give the time-scale over which the change is observable?


      • 63

        The science is pretty unequivocal: The Climate has been changing for billions of years.

        The science is pretty unequivocal: Man- Made CO2 emissions contribute just 4% to the global annual CO2 budget

        The science is pretty unequivocal: There has been no statistically significant warming for 17 years and 6 months.

        The science is pretty unequivocal: Most plants grow better in an enriched CO2 environment, and satellite observations show a, “greening up” of semi-desert and debatable lands commensurate with the rise in CO2.

        The science is pretty unequivocal: sea-level rise is tapering off.

        The science is pretty unequivocal: a little more warmth is better for life than a little more cold.

        Only the ideologically brainwashed and the money-grubbing Yeos and Manns of this world would argue otherwise.

        Should these people be excluded from public office? No because to do so should not be tolerated in a liberal democracy. Freedom and Truth should be allowed to triumph over Slavery and Lies


      • 66
        jim says:

        Of course climate change is real. Happened for millenia.

        Problem is, they turned global warming into climate change so the half-wits might believe that they really do need subsidised wind turbines to save the polar bears.

        It’s insanity.


      • 82
        Gerbil 7 says:

        Show me your evidence that man is responsible and I’ll no longer think you a nob.


      • 268
        Ex-Labour says:

        “The science” is not and cannot be “unequivocal” nor “settled”. Science is a process of enquiry.

        Your masters have fed you on lies. You have done what they want by promoting politicised “post-normal science” as the authoritative statement of “science”. Piffle.

        And you describe rational enquiry as “flat earthers”… or in the pay of Big Strawman.

        Jeez, the ignorance.


        • 269
          Ex-Labour says:

          That was @ 11 btw. Did get the ironic rhetorical device used in later more sensible post detailing actual observed empirical evidences not appeals to a self-appointed corrupt “authority” of watermelons and their very clever graphs of projections that are always wrong.


    • 25
      jimbo says:

      So MIT professor Richard Lindzen would not be allowed to have a say on energy policy but Ed Miliabdn would take advice from Balls and Harman and Jack (Big Black Cock) Dromey?

      This is how societies get fucked up, they start to collapse under their own stupidity and contradictions. One now has to subscribe to this dogma to be allowed to be in a Labour government.

      Just look at the sanctimonious, totalitarian and arrogant language:

      “The qualification for being in a Labour government is rationality and believing in clear scientific evidence.”

      And what of the aforementioned Richard Lindzen, ex Professor at MIT, writer of hundreds of scholarly articles, a man who studied science and maths (not politics)? Not allowed. Ed Militwat really is just a fucking dick head.


      • 57
        jim says:

        Can I send him the ‘clear scientific evidence’ that;

        There has been NO GLOBAL WARMING FOR OVER 15 YEARS NOW?


        • 151
          Its about Climate change says:

          Its getting snowy in USA, Icy in Germany, Sunnier in Spain, windy in Argentina, cooler in Portugal, less snowy in Canada, calmer in Brazil

          and Miilibands office is hotting up.


      • 147
        NE Frontiersman says:

        ‘“The qualification for being in a Labour government is rationality..’

        At last, they’ve come up with a new policy that draws a line under the past! But how will they implement it?


        • 198
          I dislike socialists intensely says:

          Has Ed Miliband had permission from Len McClusky to be allowed to spout
          his climate change crap.


        • 211
          Yogurt weaver rebuttal squad says:

          Wow, the reverse king Midas Edward Militwit is banging a drum for the religion of climate change – formerly known as global warming. Fantastic, everything that man gets near gets fucked up, perhaps an outbreak of common sense is imminent. End the renewables subsidies now – before we have a cotht of gween cwithith!


    • 209
      Slarti Bardfast says:

      To approach this scientifically, we’d need to build a “control” planet with no man-made CO2, and measure that.

      But wait; we already have a control planet – this planet, hundreds of years ago.

      And guess what; the climate used to change then too.


    • 227
      Blowing Whistles says:

      If anyone looks back at how the cult of AGW started and morphed into CC – don’t forget this one for the mix as well …

      If them hanging chads had not been exposed – Al would not have been rewarded with selling on the inconvenient (now exposed as b/s) truth and we wouldn’t have all these deluded cult / myth believers.

      The pup that was sold to Al – and those who ‘originated it and talked up the scam’ can be looked back at – and guess where all roads lead …?


    • 279
      bitofatwat says:

      We need Richard Feynman but we ain’t gonna get him again in this life.

      Everyone gets diverted. The only question put to all the ‘believers’ should always and forever be:

      Do you have, or can you point to a single piece of repeatable, falsifiable evidence that mankind’s trifling addition to the planet’s carbon cycle caused any of the ‘global’ warming at the end of the 20th century.

      Evidence of warming is not evidence that the monkeys did it by burning stuff. Models are not evidence of anything but self gratification. The mass hysteria of any amount of once respected Academies and Societies is not evidence.

      It is not an unreasonable request, in the face of what little global warming there was having stopped, before spending the world’s treasure out of baseless, irrational fear.


  2. 2
    Ed Miliband says:

    Climate Change caused the floods!


    • 14
      PC Dixon says:

      Dont be silly its all the fault of the Tories isn’t it?


    • 15
      Steve Miliband says:

      Not the rain then?


    • 98
      Realist says:

      Wouldn’t it be better if you showed a picture of the record heatwave in Australia or the drought in California rather than that snowman?
      Or last year’s bushfires in Portugal that killed so many firefighters?


    • 110
      little kid miband says:

      Its because of climate change the sky is blue, the sea is green, the sun is yellow and my brother has gone bonkers.


    • 212
      The BBC says:

      Global Warming was even mentioned on the Archers on Monday night, so it must be true.


      • 271
        Ex-Labour says:

        Yes – and then an approvingly sympatheticly heartfelt wish from a nice-sounding old chap that the new stained glass window for the village church should be of a design that might please Stalin.

        Fuckin nora.


    • 270
      Ex-Labour says:

      Labour caused the floods.


      For they are scum.

      EU Directive on wetlands, Baroness Snout-Arse declaring war on the pumping stations: see Booker in the Telegraph.


  3. 3
    Ed Dafty, LimpDim MP, Climate Change Chieftain says:

    My position on Climate change is abundantly clear.



    • 6
      Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:

      Remember: if it’s unpopular, blame it on the Tories.


    • 233
      Mr Nurdle says:

      I say Geedes, that small inset picture of you performing in your white onesie suit and her (not quite sure there) in hers, makes those porn sites look tame


  4. 5
    East India Company Wallah says:

    You must accept the BBC/Party stance or you will be sent to slave away your youth in a branch of Poundland


  5. 9
    Anonymous says:

    ” rationality and believing in clear scientific evidence”

    Seems sound.


    • 81
      Bob says:

      scientific evidence suggests that being buggered at a young age does you no good either, when is miliband going to explain the rationality of that one to Harmen, Dromney and the other dope?


      • 109
        H Harmkids says:

        Surely that’s enrichment and should be encouraged like all the other enrichments we are subject to.


    • 102
      Approving atheist says:

      This requirement will disbar all those holding a religious belief ( and definitely Catholics, with virgin birth, resurrection,transubstantiation etc) ) from Government, possibly not a bad thing, although it will cause a hell of a fuss! Good luck with that one, Ed.


    • 105
      Maximus says:

      Clearly hasn’t forgotten what Pa taught him. Scientific socialism, ya Ed?


  6. 10
    orkers says:

    On daily politics, some red baggage said anyone questioning the amount of warming attributable to man is a denier! That’s all scientists then, including the 97%.

    Only the apocalyptic believers can pass go for the forthcoming rapture!


  7. 13
    Steve Miliband says:

    He demands cheaper energy whilst promoting ‘green taxes’

    He demands a ‘bankers bonus tax’ whilst promoting a cap on Bankers Bonuses.

    He wants to ‘invest’ in public services while cutting budgets.


    • 24
      All mps are scum says:

      Therefore he is a w****r. QED.


    • 77
      Does he get it little master Miband says:

      Total Energy needed to build, install, service and recycle and dispose of solar panel = X Joules. Total Energy converted = about half of X.
      Total Energy needed to build, install, service and recycle and dispose of wind turbine = Y Joules. Total Energy converted = about three quarters of Y.


      • 138
        C.O.Jones says:

        Most environmentalists would not have a clue about the meaning of the word sustainable. In fact they would not understand what you have written.

        Understanding energy requires two subjects, physics and maths. The vast majority of university courses for environmental sciences do not require these subjects as an entry requirement for undergraduate study.

        If you do not believe me go and check!


      • 153
        Don Cox says:

        Wind and solar may be very useful for Pacific islands or remote African villages. They are a pointless waste of money for a country like Britain which has a grid system.

        Nuclear power is the only clean, safe and reliable source that is suitable for advanced economies.


        • 237
          Mr Nurdle says:

          Definitely, build lots of lovely nuclear power stations in Londonistan, lots of lovely dirty water in the Thames for cooling, they would have to be above possible flood level unfortunately Westminster not a good site as the faint possibility of flood only 4/5 meters above high tide levels and when all the water form upstream rise after heavy rain


          • Don Cox says:

            Future nuclear stations will be sited next to the existing ones. There is no need to put one on the Thames.

            There is one a few miles from my house, and there is plenty of room to build another one (or three) next to it. Unlike wind farms, they are quite compact.


      • 263
        Stock up with candles before 2015 says:

        Comment 77 is very similar to a report I read about the use of Photo-Voltaic panels. It was aboout 10 years ago, so I’m afraid I can’t provide a link, but basically it said that far more energy was used actually producing PV panels than could be extracted from them during their anticipated lifespan of about 15 years. So they have a NEGATIVE energy equation!


  8. 17
    Peter Martin says:

    “The qualification for being in a Labour government is rationality and believing in clear scientific evidence.”

    Leaving the rationality bit on the ‘recent events suggest otherwise’ sidebar for now, as qualifications have been raised, does anyone in Labour (or most other parties) have a single one that makes them capable of assessing anything scientific by means other than… belief?


    • 38
      Ed Miliband frequent flyer. says:

      If my Dad said it that is good enough for me.


    • 40
      Keitho says:

      Well climate science really is a religion, unsupported by data, hence it has become political and is used to pursue social and economic transformation by the left. Dave is just a gormless dork for swallowing this nonsense, probably prodded by Sam.


      • 74

        Got cctv in No10’s bedroom have you?


      • 93
        Windypops says:

        Yes – and was I the only one to notice how he sneaked that reference to HS2 into one of his answers? This guy needs removing… Get David Davis to replace him before it is too late for all of us.


      • 203
        Jack Ketch says:

        How many members of Parliament have a science background? (Above “GCSE” that is). I have slogged through most of the front bencher CVs on both sides of the house and lots of “leading lights” there appear to be a lot of PPE degrees and other totally useless pieces of toilet paper ( The Green’s Caroline Lucas has a PhD in “English and Women’s Studies–WOMEN’S STUDIES FFS!!!! Perfect grounding for discussing hard-science matters!)
        There are 21 MPs with PhDs, most in history, philosophy, english etc. It seems that only the irritating Cycle-maniac Julian Hippert (Lib-Dem) and Therese Coffey (Con) have science doctorates, both Chemistry. Speading further out, there a few engineers, a couple of medical doctors and the female Vaz was a microbiologist–but I can find no physicists, geologists, hydrologists or climatologists, although the stimulating Gloria de Piero used to present the weather forecast on GMTV.


    • 238
      Mr Nurdle says:

      The Liebore lot believed all that rubbish the” Bankers” told them, to reduce all regulations, much better for business, and they were “too big to fail”


  9. 19
    Wanda Ringhands says:

    This means everyone in the party has to believe implicitly in every policy or be sacked. I can’t see any possible problems with that, can you?


    • 99
      Windypops says:

      Mr Putin would probably agree with you.


    • 128
      thostids says:

      Monocultures are easily wiped out by a single dose of appropriate treatment. In the case of Parties who tote the Party line of so-called “Global warming” like the man in the sandwich board warning “The End is Nigh”, in due course the crowd twig that the bugger is deluded. The longer it continues, the greater the elimination of our economic advantage. Which, looked at rationally, is the only logical reality behind the fervour to eradicate CO2 from emissions.
      Like all quasi-religious movements though, there is usually a “grand reckoning” when the penny finally drops that it has all been a political lie to extract unimaginable amounts of tax revenue from the people under the camouflage of saving the World and our children. Don’t forget the children.


      • 156
        C.O.Jones says:

        We all love inexpensive goods from the far east. Let them suffer the pollution so that we can live in our utopian fallacy. We forget that the Chinese live on the same planet as us.

        Just to remind people that having exported our production base to the cheapest producer we have also exported it to the dirtiest producer. The least polluting manufacturing processes tend also to be the most expensive.


        • 221
          Yogurt weaver rebuttal squad says:

          Not forgetting that the other reason we cannot produce cheaply and efficiently is that these greedy, lying, troughing ppe graduates are taxing us to death to spend our money on the EU, benefits street, third world dictators and assorted vanity projects.


      • 214
        was it something I said? says:

        I grew up in Birmingham. Raised Catholic, I had to traipse up to church every Sunday. At the time there were six full masses on a Sunday. 400 or so people per mass. Three full time priests.

        My brother, who still lives in Birmingham, tells me that the same church is now shared with an itinerant Vietnamese priest who does one poorly attended mass on Sunday.

        All this in a single lifetime. Ir*el*and is going the same way.

        I fully expect (hope would be honest) that the regime change of Mosque-building cultural enrichers will likewise sober up in the next generation or so and it is equally to be hoped that the global warming cult will also come to their senses.


  10. 20
    All mps are scum says:

    Can’t all these Eco Loons do something really useful to decrease their carbon footprint forever, like joining VHEMT.


  11. 23
    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    *** Breaking News***
    Bank-roller of New Labour and champion of ethical business practises the Co-op has just announced its worst results in history and is £2 billion in debt, may result in up to 5,000 job losses. They could start by cutting their subsidy to Labour MPs.


    • 30
      was it something I said? says:

      They can all lose their jobs for all I care. Fucking Labour enablers every single fucking one of them.


    • 32
      Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

      Over your dead body !


    • 39
      I dislike socialists intensely says:

      The Co-op runs its business the same way as the Labour party ran the country.


      • 239
        Special advisor Tony says:

        To be fair only since 1997
        That will be £10K made payable to my foundation account.

        Just asking; How easy will it be for me to move my accounts elsewhere?
        No Charge


      • 240
        Mr Nurdle says:

        And when pushed sell off the family silver just like the Tories did in the 80’s when up against it financially.


        • 262
          Nerd says:

          Remind me again which Party sold 55% of the UK’s Gold reserves (395 of 715 Tonnes) between 1999 and 2002 at less than $300/Oz, Since the May 2010 General Election Gold has averaged $1,500/Oz (Gordon is a moron) Who raided all non public sector pensions to pay for the additional one million EXTRA public sector pensions. Who declared an end to Boom & Bust yet their policies resulted in the biggest Bust since 1931.
          Just like the theory of Man Made Global Warming, don’t let facts get in the way of your beliefs.
          I believe your statement indicates you are one of the many who are dependent on public funds and beleive these are endless


    • 44
      Ed Sillyband says:

      The Co-op is the future of banking, isn’t that right Reverend Flowers?


      • 155
        NE Frontiersman says:

        Is Mr Balls still aiming to be the Cooperative Chancellor? That’s based on rational evidence, I hope?


        • 241
          Ed Balls...Numbers are my game says:

          The advice I gave to Rev Flowers was good advice; 3 Red would come good, its just taking a little longer in coming…it not him.


      • 242
        Mr Nurdle says:

        Co op bank lost £2 Billion how much did RBS manage to lose and HBOS lose, please remind me, stated losses will do not the unstated ones in the form of liabilities?


    • 80

      If the receivers are called in, they’ll want that loan to Labour back. Couldn’t happen to a nicer party.


      • 104
        Fly on the wall says:

        Dave and Oz are preparing the bail out as we speak…But it should be on condition that Balls returns every single penny he has ever received from them.


    • 219
      Co-op milk float survivor says:

      Oh some good news, that’ll teach them not to keep buying shares in green bs! I’ve been trying to buy a bit of extra ground from ‘em, a bit they staked claim to years back when it actually belonged to the village…might be worth another shot now at a reduced offer of course as they’re desperate!


      • 245
        Mr Nurdle says:

        You forget sunshine the Yanky boys now pull the strings of the Co op Bank they used the money in the company to buy it out, they did that with Manchester United, used to be against the law but seems to have been rescinded under who’s rule


    • 234
      That my line says:

      That well and truly buggered.
      Rev Flowers


      • 243
        Once GREAT institution f***ed by the left logic says:

        Is the photo the Rev with a rent boy after sneezing whilst snorting.
        That can be a bugger. Blown a load (£2bn)
        And if I’m not mistaken on the roof of the CIS Solar Tower


    • 236
      The two Eds who can't add up says:

      “rationality and believing in clear scientific evidence.”
      I wonder how on Earth their backers (The Co-Op Group) lost £2bn? It wouldn’t be because they also have the same quality management and use the same inverse Orwellian logic/speak.
      Green Bank green Con.


    • 246
      Gordon Brown (saviour of the world) says:

      I’ve found that once you are shown to be financially incompetent, people don’t trust you with their money.
      Sarah has asked me to ask you to move our various Private and Very Private (Business) accounts to your friends bank overseas. We spend so little time in the country nowadays anyway


  12. 26
    was it something I said? says:

    The qualification for being in a Labour government is rationality

    I’d say the two were mutually exclusive.

    How else do you explain the I’raq war or, indeed, Brown’s economic policy?

    The qualification for being in a Labour government is demonstrably that you must be fucking insane.


    • 34
      Andy Burythem says:

      You’re talking about me, aren’t you?


      • 143
        thostids says:

        You’ve got a nasty case of paranoia. Quite normal for mass-murderers and Labour Shadow Cabinet members. Of course, as it could be you, we’ll have to put it down to a Pauline episode. You haven’t been anywhere near the road to Damascus, recently?
        Take a couple of aspirin. It won’t work but Harpic’s taken the heat off for the moment.


    • 144
      The Critic says:

      Indeed, bring on the ducking stool Ed and appoint a witchfinder general. After all, advocates of that approach believed the science was settled. They at least had the honesty to call it religion.


  13. 27
    EdthelRed the Davey - 1314 says:

    Yea goodsire and goodwife. Verily I say to you that the Earth is getting less flat. ‘Tis the burning of charcoal to heat hovels and people using their carts to go to market that has altered the balance of the natural humors.

    I say .. Pay up a tithe of 1 groat in every 4 to fund a grand windmill and waterwheel building program that will prevent the globe’s edges turning up and unleashing sea monsters and demons upon us all.


  14. 28
    Anonymous says:

    Of course, that does exclude Ed. After all, rationality and evidence indicate that things such as government mandated price freezes don’t have the intended effect.


  15. 29
    Ed Miliband frequent flyer. says:

    I, going about my duties flying here and everywhere about the UK, Europe and The World, DO NOT CAUSE MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE so I can continue pontificating in a high moral tone.


  16. 31
    Nutters in the asylum says:

    As the tanks roll over the border all the Eco-loons can do is to cheer an irrelevance…


  17. 33
    Keitho says:

    What a great idea. If you can’t convince people with your argument remove anybody who has the temerity to argue with you.

    As Dissent says above, how long before being a climate denier becomes a crime? The left really don’t like anybody outside the groupthink does it.


  18. 45
    Prime Minister"Money's no object" Cameron says:

    I give my cock a massive tug when I get nervous, is that okay?


  19. 46
    cornwall storms says:

    “and believing in clear scientific evidence.”

    ++++Laugh++++ and what scientific evidence is that then? since there isn’t any . or is he proposing that the IPCC’s ‘evidence’ that himalayan glaciers would have completely completely melted by 2020 was it?” is evidence when they are actually now found to be doing nothing of the sort?

    or maybe he’s thinking of that hockey stick graph that has been completely discredited.


    • 85
      Bob says:

      -and how the hell is taxing everyone more going to make a blind bit of difference?


      • 103
        Cazual Observer 7 says:

        It will help repress public outcry when goods become scarce as a result of the destruction of productive capital which is the real objective of these subversive idiots.

        If you haven’t got as much disposable cash, but are still being well paid, you will not notice that there is less to buy I guess is their thinking.


      • 123
        Maximus says:

        Every measure to deal with ‘climate change’ involves a false market.


    • 100

      ….Or our children won’t know what snow is by 2010, Or Manhatten will be (permanently) underwater as the Hudson rises 10 ft by 2010, or Arctic ice will have disappeared completely by the Summer of 2013, Or polar bears are almost extinct (pop. c25000 and rising), or that 97% of GCM’s are WRONG about global temperature rise.


      • 120
        Fly on the wall says:

        The Mississippi is frozen solid. Anyone feel like joining me for a quick skate or a game of ice hockey? We can revert to water polo in due course when normal service is resumed.


      • 166
        NE Frontiersman says:

        Polar bear population on Spitzbergen is up 50% since shooting was banned. Supply of their grub is not.That might explain their being hungry.


      • 197
        Village Idiot says:

        ….But the “Polar Vortex is back”…..?


  20. 48
    carlo gambino says:

    Hey folks get with it.

    Man-made climate-change IS real – in the same way that every religion is real.

    Amazing, no, the number who *believe* utterly and absolutely, who can cut and paste chapter and verse from a green shilling site, but who know f*** all about the climate.

    I too know f*** all about the climate.

    But I know a dirty great big stinking scam when I see one.


  21. 49
    BBC News circa 150 AD to 1600 AD says:

    The science is settled. The Earth is the centre of the universe and the sun and all other heavenly bodies orbit it in perfect circles riding on crystal spheres. Anyone who says otherwise is a heretic and will be burned at the stake.


  22. 50
    Anonymous says:

    I prefer to say change in climate.


  23. 51
    BBC News circa 150 AD to 1600 AD says:

    So Labour are going down the same eco-loony tax bombshell route the Lib Dems are:

    Vote Lib/Lab for higher petrol prices

    Vote Lib/Lab for higher electricity and gas bills

    Vote Lib/Lab for higher council tax

    Vote Lib/Lab for higher income tax

    Bye bye Lib/Lab :-)


  24. 52
    EyeSee says:

    Obviously the actual requirement to join Labour is to be able to lie. As Climate Change is not man made (a scientific fact that has been established since at least the mid Sixties), then clearly having only people who believe a ‘scientific fact’ that isn’t means they must at heart, be liars. If you are unable to put ideology before saving the lives of your children, for instance, you are of no use to Labour. You need to be able to say, sincerely and with a straight face things like, ‘an affiliate isn’t an affiliation’. Stuff like that.


    • 64
      Sir William Wayde says:

      Marxism was ‘scientific’!


      • 196
        was it something I said? says:

        I have actually had bedwetters on BBC and ‘Comment is Free as long as you agree with us’ seriously claiming that Marxism was science. The justification being – and you’ll like this – is because some universities have ‘Political Science’ departments.

        These people are fucking mental.


  25. 53
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Neither of those things show that man is causing them to happen.

    Sea levels have been much higher (previous warm periods) and much lower (ice ages) in the geological past when humans were far fewer in number than today or didn’t even exist.

    As i keep saying to the eco-loons, what caused all the extremes of weather, as recorded by the ancient Chinese,Romans,Egyptians,Myans etc; when the worlds population was a fraction of what it is today and no fossil fuels were being burned?

    40 years ago the eco-loons were predicting another ice age after a few cold snowy winters in the 70s.

    20 years ago they were predicting that we would become like the Sahara desert after a few dry hot summers in the late 80s/early 90s.

    Can their oh so brilliantly successful computer model tell us what next summer/winter will bring?


    • 87
      was it something I said? says:

      Their computer models cannot even predict what has already happened.

      Their ‘models’ are so poor that were you to develop a model using (say) all the data up to the present and then strip out (say) the last 10 years and ask it to predict what we know to have happened – it couldn’t.

      The ‘models’ they have can’t even ‘predict’ the past let alone the fucking future.

      Their ‘models’ are fucking shit.

      Their ‘models’ are made by fucking geography departments. Fucking geography departments. Since when did geography become a science?

      Yet plasticine gimps like Miliband act as if they are fucking scientists.

      So we had a bad winter. It pissed down. Where the fuck do these c*u*n*t*s think we are? The fucking Atacama desert? We live in the fucking UK. It’s wet. It’s famously wet. It’s always been wet. Last year was wetter than usual. Big fucking deal.


    • 95
      Climate change skeptic says:

      I blame women.


  26. 54
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    I can’t understand all these eco-loons like Cameron,Clegg,Milliband,Lucas,Prince Charles,Moonbat etc. opposing independence for Scotland.

    They should be supporting it.

    Let the jocks own all that nasty, smelly, polluting oil & gas. We can run everything with windmills & solar panels.

    That’ll teach the jock twats for Bannockburn :-)


  27. 56
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Lynton Crosby needs to lock Dave and co. in a room until they can recite these facts in their sleep.

    1. Little furry animals don’t vote but angry farmers/residents do.

    2. Motorists vastly outnumber cyclists.

    3. Electricity & gas bill payers vastly outnumber eco-loons in Islington.

    4. Tony Abbott just won a landslide in the Aussie general election against the eco-loony Labour party.


    • 68
      carlo gambino says:

      Nah. Call Me is still ‘modernising’, still wh*ring after the ‘young’n’cool’ vote, and still headed for oblivion.


  28. 58
    A couple of Aussies says:

    We didn’t believe in the science surrounding stomach ulcers. We proposed something different. The great and the good ridiculed us. Some self-experimentation proved us right and the accepted wisdom wrong. A Nobel prize followed. So our message to Red Ed the eco- fascist is :questioning accepted wisdom is perfectly rational.


  29. 59
    cornwall storms says:

    hmmm and ‘rational’ ??!!

    Is that what gordon’s and bullyballs’ carcrash economic policy was??!!


  30. 65
    The Co-OP bank boardroom 2005 says:

    Rev Flowerpot – “So you’re saying we should lend to anyone we like? Regardless of their ability to repay any loan? And that we should give sponsorship to labour MPs in order that they continue to recommend the CO-Op bank to those who can’t afford to take out a loan? Are you quite sure about all this?”

    Ed Balls “Yes!Yes! Its called Heterogeneous growth theory or something. Anyway , the new theory is if you lend people money then they can use that money to pay back the loan. Simple isn’t it?
    Same as if the government employs someone on above average wage to press the spacecebar on a keyboard all day, the taxes they pay covers the cost of the borrowing that we need to raise to pay them to do that non-job. See?

    Rev Flowerpot – No.Not really ..

    Ed Balls – look. You just have another snort of this and leave the theories to me ok? All this ” ability to pay ” is so 1990’s. Its all changed now. Boom and bust is over. Its just boom, OK?
    And sub the party £30 million until 2015 would you?


  31. 75
    RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

    Mr Dad, Adolphe would be so proud.



    • 92
      Bill Quango MP says:

      I wonder why these people don’t pack it in? Mugabe and Gaddafi and Saddam etc.
      If you had $12bn why not just bugger off?
      Even if half of it is in land in the country. And a qurter is in gold bars that you can’t spirit away, these people must have $1 or even half a bn dollars in banks and property around the world.

      Should be enough to see you through old age?


      • 108
        The Crimean War, Part II says:

        Maybe they are scared they’ll be thrown in jail if they give it up.

        Perhaps we need a suitable place for ex-dictators and corrupt leaders where we can encourage them to retire to, without prejudice, so that they are easier to get rid of.

        We could call it Brazil. Or something.


      • 113
        Cazual Observer 7 says:

        He likely has enough to see him through in some account in S’witzerland – but there is the rub.

        It is not so easy to keep cash stashed any more – gold bars are best bet.

        But then there is the small matter of where to live. Who would give him a visa, and would it be safe for him to go to that place ?

        In practice, being a corrupt despot is not as easy as it sounds.


        • 134
          The office of Sarah and Gordoom McBrown {overseas} says:

          There are still lots of places to consider that are quite nice.

          St Kitts.
          South Africa
          Costa Rica
          Saudi Arabia

          And many more. And if , like me, you are staying in 5 and 6 star hotels all the time, everywhere is pretty much the same.


          • Fly on the wall says:

            You should be exiled to the Outermost Hebridean island.


          • St Kilda says:

            Keep him well away, please.


          • Village Idiot says:

            …Accumalating enormous wealth must be ,in some cases,like obesity,only instead of food,it is money!…So be it,but,the only gift in life worth having,is your health,mental and physical..and enough money to be relatively comfortable!


      • 210
        Jack Ketch says:

        Expenditure rises to meet income. Acquisitiveness rises to meet opportunity. Greed is directly proportional to political power.


  32. 86
    Cazual Observer 7 says:

    Surely that field should be under 4 ft of water, and given that climate change is more cult than science, should not the Waco approach be adopted for dealing with it ?


    • 140
      Blue Peter Goldfish says:

      They are all experts, the BBC in particular always precedes the latest pronouncements from the doom predictors with “an expert says”. Of course we are talking about what has become a religion so we an expect the Spanish inquisition to come down heavily on anybody secretly using a filament light bulb.


  33. 94
    Gordon Brown - the official House of Commons Ghost says:

    When I said that CO2 was bad and taxed accordingly, I didn’t mean mine as I SAVED THE WORLD!


    • 117
      The office of Sarah and Gordoom McBrown {overseas} says:

      We still hate you.
      You are the ghost of bad breath passed.

      Just stay away.

      Oh! you have!


  34. 97
    Labour voting, gravy guzzling, pie eating socialist northerner says:

    Labour love diversity though don’t they?


  35. 101
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    I’ve just had one of these “Electricity North West” leaflets through my door saying they are going to be experimenting with voltage variation on certain sub stations and their might be some power cuts as a result.


    More eco-loon bullshit. It’s time to string these fuckers up from the nearest tree/lamp post

    I’ll be claiming compensation from my electricity supplier via the Ombudsman if there are any power cuts :-)


  36. 106
    Daily sex sufferer says:

    de si a ufkicng9 watt.


  37. 107
    Many Worlds interpretation says:

    In Ed Miliband’s universe, Gordon Brown spends a lot of time in the HoC and Ed Balls can add up however the shouts of “Crackerjack” today provided the necessary decoherence and that particular universe imploded.
    Which is good.


  38. 126
    orkers says:

    Their grandfathers believed in Trofim Lysenko…..they killed millions……

    Their ancestors probably jumped at the chance to burn witches.


  39. 131
    EU Funded Pro-EU Troll says:

    Vote UKIP


  40. 136
    Universal Hissing says:

    In other news something for Scotland to be very happy about…..



    Obviously Ed won’t want any oil. Nasty black climate warming stuff.


    • 148
      Cazual Observer 7 says:

      Thinking ahead – would Scotland regard M’iliband and UK L’abour as a credible security threat on the southern border ?


      • 189
        was it something I said? says:

        They’d be more of a security threat to the people south of the border.


      • 216
        Universal Hissing says:

        Johann Lamont said last night that she & Ed were very close & that he loved Scotland as much as she.I don’t suppose he understands a word she says so just grimaces & nods.

        She also said live on STV that Scots are genetically programmed to not take political decisions. How incredible is that?She’s more stupid than Ed which takes some going.She’s being ripped to shreds all over social media as she richly deserves.

        With a Labour leader like that within Scotland we don’t need anymore help from Westminster.Hopefully she has done so much damage we will never see a Labour government in Scotland.


        • 220
          was it something I said? says:

          Hopefully she has done so much damage we will never see a Labour government in Scotland.

          You do have to hope not.

          Fucking Scotland will do fine on its own. After all, as they constantly remind us, they’ve got oil.

          I’ve said all along that the Little Scotlanders aren’t the problem (although it does get a bit tedious being racially abused). The far bigger problem in an independent Fucking Scotland is Labour making all kinds of promises with all that oil money and, with the institutional and cultural expectation of lots of free stuff, spending a century of oil revenue buying votes for the next five years.

          If Fucking Scotland can just free itself from Labour it has every chance of making a great go of independence. If not then it is utterly fucked.

          Not a gamble I was prepared to hang around for.


  41. 142
    Jimmy says:

    “The qualification for being in a Labour government is rationality and believing in clear scientific evidence.”

    Bastards eh?

    Still, it’s not like you irrational people are short of alternative options at election time.


    • 160
      orkers says:

      “Lysenkoism is used metaphorically to describe the manipulation or distortion of the scientific process as a way to reach a predetermined conclusion as dictated by an ideological bias, often related to social or political objectives.”

      Millysenko is purging anyone who questions man’s impact on climate as being anything other than catastrophic. This is not the scientific consensus, nor is it rational. Even the 97% ‘consensus’ and the IPCC questions/adjusts it’s expectation of man’s impact whenever it releases a report. Ergo, all scientists (Excluding Mikey Mann) are deniers.

      Yeah! Science bitch!


    • 161
      was it something I said? says:

      The Iraq war was ‘rational’ was it? Destroying the UK economy to fund 1,000,000 additional public sector workers was ‘rational’?


      • 257
        Ex-Labour says:

        The doubleplusgood brilliance of the Iraq war rationality was the joint programme:

        1/ massively piss off a section of the world whilst
        2/ opening the borders of our country to them

        Monumentally bonkers…. but the agenda is destruction of the host. An act of war against the enemy: in this case the Labour Party’s own country.

        For the shame of it.


    • 162
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      Yeah isn’t it a crying shame that Tony Abbott trounced the eco-loony Liebore party in Australia recently, went on to call man-made climate change a massive socialist tax scam and then promptly closed down the government quango for climate change :-)


    • 183
      The Critic says:

      Ah Jimmy, you made the obvious mistake and thought Ed was using the accepted terms for the words ‘rationality’ and ‘ believing in clear scientific evidence.’

      He did in fact mean:

      ‘rationality’ = agree with me

      ‘ believing in clear scientific evidence.’ = or face the firing squad

      Happy to clarify for you.


      • 186
        Labour's last self-referential argument. says:

        It’s the right thing to do. Whatever it is I’m doing.


        • 213
          Village Idiot says:

          ….”What did New Labour get right?..From my observations,nothing,be it NHS,the economy,devolution,wars,The EU,human rights,education,,…..ah ..oh
          forget it,the list never ends!


    • 200
      • 206
        was it something I said? says:

        There’s as much science in that as there is in the man-made Global Warming climate change* cult.

        * name subject to revision


    • 231
      Tim Yeo-yo says:

      See the questions below and answer them you retard.

      Or are you such an utterly useless cowardly tw@ that you can’t?

      Do you get some sort of erotic pleasure by making everyone here think you are a mongtarded brain dead fukwit?


  42. 152
    Surr Nob Skelpoff says:

    Eat this you big nosed, spluttering, wharmist zio twat


  43. 157
    altruism in industry says:

    Can somebody post a link that proves man made climate change ?


  44. 165
    EU Watch 2 says:

    Looks like I’celand is cooling on Europe…


  45. 168
    The Science is settled says:

    The Arctic is melting. Time to give every polar bear their very own rubber igloo, in green.


  46. 169
    Anonymous says:

    Does Harriet Dromy have kids?


  47. 170
    C.O.Jones says:

    Polar bear’s don’t shit in the woods.


    • 175
      Surr Nob Skelpoff says:

      Is it white, like white poodles and Ed Millbands?


      • 191
        a baby polar bear says:

        ” mummy, mummy, are you sure I am a polar bear ?”
        ” of course you are a polar bear, Your daddy was a polar bear, your mummy is a polar bear. You silly thing, why do you keep asking if you are a polar bear?”
        ” because I’m fucking freezing”


  48. 174
    A socialist peer (get the irony) says:

    If Ed is such a believer in climate change: why did he disarm the Environment Agency when it was within his sphere of influence?

    He is turning out like a another effing Peter Hain, albeit without the Essex tan.


  49. 178
    Nigel Farage says:

    And they get upset when one of my blokes believes in a link between gay marriage and flooding?


    • 195
      Sally drinks says:

      There is a little link between Crackerjack and a Black Daniel.


    • 255
      Ex-Labour says:

      Morality is something Labourites do on others.

      It doesn’t apply to them.

      Once aligned to the cause, any actions against the hated enemy are permitted. Enemy morality [i.e. traditional Christian morality] is the bourgeois devil to them.

      Hence moral scrutiny of their twisted sick positions on, well, fucking anything these days, is met with the old “attack the attacker” bluster often beginning with “How dare you [blah blah hector blah…” and culminating with a “… you disgust me!” which will be shouted over any attempts to call them to account.

      I so fucking love lefties.


  50. 180

    Dissenters will be exiled – OK but where to? Not somewhere cold I hope.


  51. 181
    EU Watch 2 says:

    Back in the real world…


    • 188
      EU Watch 2 says:

      And here is a picture of what Greek bond yields have been doing over the past four years:

      The higher the peak, the more interest G’reece pays.

      7.21% should be compared against UK’s 2.72% – which is down from the UK’s ~4% back in May 2010.

      NB: 7% is considered to be above the sustainable limit for debt: So this can be considered no material improvement in G’reece. Perhaps time to G’rexit.


  52. 184
    A Right Fucking Bastard Of A Scouser says:


    Eh! Eh!

    Wanna buy dese tickets fer Li’erpool-Swansea, boss?

    What de yer mean dese are fuckin’ free Hillsborough memorial service tickets thar ‘ave been fuckin’ doctored?

    Listen, soft lad, we fuckin’ love aar own in Li’erpool an we would nevah-fuckin’ nevah, righ’?- do sometin’ like dat to our won, yerknowhwarramsayin’ like?


  53. 190
    Little Miband says:

    I only raised because Prince Charles came out with it last week.


  54. 201
    whippet says:

    Labour don’t care about climate change at all. It will be used:
    1) to gain votes from eco loons, students and lib dems.
    2) once in power they will do another Green tax raid to fund their Marxist agenda. (Enjoy your holiday this year, it might be your last.)
    3) the UK will end up bankrupt for the 4th time under labour.


  55. 207
    Jithice for says:

    Don’t speak Russian or think climate change is bollocks? Then there’s no place for you in Ed’s Euro La-La World.


  56. 218
    Don't Blame the rain, blame piss poor planning. says:

    Floods caused by urban sprawl, bad planning, in case of Thames weirs, Sommerset levels lack of maintenance….In other words bad planning and neglect,


  57. 223
    Edcutus of Borg says:

    Assimilate .Resistance is futile.


  58. 225
    Anonymous says:

    Miliband is a dangerous nutter.

    Visit watts up with that to read the views of the co-founder of Greenpeace


  59. 226
    Unheard majority says:

    Visit watts up with that to read about the science AND also the lies of Mann


  60. 228
    A Cockroach says:

    I’m not bothered if you humans all die out anyway, I’ll survive to populate the earth, warm or cold- only trouble is MPs may also survive.


  61. 232
    JVee says:

    As a so called ‘Climate Change Denier” I am not taken in by the “Climate Change Deceivers”.


  62. 235
    Big D says:

    Dissenters will be publically hung drawn and quartered or if prefered sent to Ms Harmans accademy for retraining / correction / brainwashing .
    Known in the past as the NCCl ( alligned with the PIE ) and open to ever way out odd ball group in the land as long as they were against the normal rules of society.


  63. 248
    The ghost of the 1st victim of Marxism says:

    The last time the Milibands were seen in a field of Wheat ? They Were Hunting KULAKS.

    To steal their food and sell it in the Cities.

    By the way

    Watching Kulak children die or sexually exploiting them was a pass time back in the day for the Followers of the Great Marxist prophet. No Change There Then.

    Poor old Ukraine. …. Between a rock and a hard place.


  64. 249
    Von Rumpoy killed our giraffe. says:

    Labour and Unite support a 3rd Runway at Heathrow. Thousands of homes uninhabitable, Heathrow Villages decimated and massive air and road pollution west of London.
    Fracking lieing hypocrites.
    Vote UKIP.


  65. 251
    Anonymous says:

    So according to Ed, it’s okay to support PIE, but not to ask questions about the fact that temperatures have been stable for over 17 years.


    • 253
      Ex-Labour says:

      That’s it.

      Howl and play the victim over Harpic and the gang, using the shoutiest moral invectives they can muster and keep to friendly audiences for a bit, whoop whoop.

      And claim “The Science” as 1/ settled , 2/ theirs, and, because it’s 2/ theirs, this gives them permission to 3/ shriek, play the injured victim, “feel disgusted” by their oppos etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.


  66. 252
    GCHQ says:

    So according to Ed, it’s okay to back PIE, but not to question scientist that tax payers pay for.


  67. 254
    Ex-Labour says:

    Because she isn’t suing, is she?

    The documents are real. We can read them for ourselves and know what she put her name to. Her spin won’t stick.


  68. 266

    If politicians had to do anything with scientific evidence as a prerequisite we wouldn’t have our drug laws!


  69. 272
    archduke says:

    the labour party still believes in socialism, which has failed everywhere it has been implemented.

    where’s the “rationality” in that Mr Milliband?


  70. 273
    Anonymous says:

    “sceptical comments about climate change.”
    We cannot absolutely prove the matter one way or the other, until its probably too late. However, we can say with some certainty that fossil fuel is finite. Ergo, lets concentrate on optimising renewables ASAP. Rather than building vanity non-stop rail projects.


  71. 274
    Onan the Rotarian says:


  72. 276
  73. 277
    MandyPickleSniffer says:

    As Archduke says above: “the labour party still believes in socialism, which has failed everywhere it has been implemented.
    where’s the “rationality” in that Mr Milliband?”

    Indeed. And add to that all the other retarded and spectacularly disastrous decisions that Labour foisted upon all of us, and the shambles they made of the economy.

    And then they have the unbelievable gall to claim that they’ve got a lock on “rationality”!!!

    The arrogance of these hypocrites, and their refusal to EVER acknowledge how utterly wrong they’ve been completely boggles my mind. Astounding.

    But of course, if you try to criticise them, then you’re labelled as a ‘flat-earther’ or a Daily Mail reader, or whatever their slur of the day is. What’s shocking is how they’ve managed to portray the Tories as the Nasty Party when time and time again it is Class Warfare, Kill the Rich, Crush Aspiration, and “We know how to spend your money better than you do” party that truly are the Nasty ones.


  74. 280

    Great value types of conservatory and window blinds from Instyle blinds.


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