February 25th, 2014

Yet Another Guardian Contributor Arrested for Terror Offences

Just before Christmas Guardian contributor Babar Ahmad pleaded guilty to terror offences, well today another has been nicked. Moazzam Begg, who has written for the paper’s website no less than thirteen times, has been detained on suspicion of Syria-related terrorism offences. Who’s next?


  1. 1
    Spike Milligan says:


    What’s in a name?


  2. 2
    Scarepoll says:

    When will they arrest Polly for being terrifying?


  3. 5
    Shooty* says:

    This arrest is clearly waaaaaaaaacist.


  4. 7
    British Bulldog says:

    Maybe he’s been nabbed for poor grammar?


  5. 8
    Leamas says:

    The Guardian, seeking the destruction of Western democracy, while it still can.


    • 18
      Scary Hack says:

      Never mind, daaaahhhling!

      They still spell Gitmo with an oh-so-right-on acute accent on the a.


      • 116
        Sir William Wayde says:

        All the same, Guantanamo is a disgrace. Obama should have had the guts and the decency to close it.


        • 136
          JH945894343432945 says:

          I agree.

          Why these fuckers weren’t quietly double-tapped on the battlefield and left in a ditch is beyond me.

          A couple of rounds of 5.56 is what, $1.50? What does Gitmo cost a year?


          • CIA says:

            We needed them to name names. Came in very handy.


          • Fink 'bout tit, yeah? says:

            OK, we’ve got them now.

            Up against the wall, mutha…….!


          • Socialism is a mental illness says:

            I agree jh94589……as an infantry officer in the Stan, if i was, then no prisoners would be taken, shoot their wounded, and if time allowed, cut the heads off the corpse and fling away, miles away. They cannot be buried without their heads. Insult the bastards.


  6. 10
    Moazzam Begg says:

    The police are wrong, its not a bomb making manual, its Journalistic material….


  7. 13
    Peter Bone M.P. (crook) says:

    Does the Prime Minister agree with Mrs Bone *pause for laughter*, who stashed all her mothers cash under our bed to avoid expensive care home bills?


    • 26
      Mrs Bone says:

      I have done absolutely nothing illegal – but don’t let us catch plebs and feckless, work shy parasites doing it – like my husband for instance.


      • 39
        SleeplessInKirkaldy says:

        Mr Bone is an accountant. Whatever he has done will be legal and sensible. It might not be straightforward and may look dodgy but that’s the fault of the people who created the tax system. Oh, hold on…

        Seriously though, I don’t know any details but the family may have arranged the mother’s estate such that indivisible assets are held by two people so that neither can sell and they hence cannot be assessed for contribution against care costs. Perfectly legal and sensible tax planning that everyone should do.


        • 45
          Mitch says:

          Didn’t the IPSA guy say that M.P.’s have to be whiter than white?

          The Bone’s are not exactly short, are they?


          • SleeplessInKirkaldy says:

            Absolutely. Whiter than white for expenses. However, if this is tax planning, then it’s nothing to do with IPSA.

            Wouldn’t it be good if the tax and benefits system was simplified and joined up so that you didn’t need to plan so carefully to avoid your family getting fleeced by the taxman when you die or need care for your end of life?


          • Mitch says:

            Or, people could pay for things that they can afford?

            Take your point about expenses, but I don’t think he meant that M.P.’s could be dodgy (or “careful planners”) in the rest of their lives.


          • Bemused says:

            It is quite common for very ordinary people to avoid inheritance tax and care costs by moving assets to the children before old age/death.

            I’m guessing most people won’t be castigating Bone, they will be saying “OK, so exactly what did he do, because we want to do the same”.


          • jgm2 says:

            Some people have been known to get a Deed of Variation to avoid taxes on their parents property when they die.


          • The latest Press reviews says:

            Whiter than white? Oooh! Do you think Chucky knows this?


        • 115
          Your loyalty is your family, NOT the state. says:

          Absolutely. Been through it.

          I urge anyone to make plans for the future, otherwise if the circumstances arise the state (council) will seize any asset they can. It is bleeding horrible, I can tell you.


  8. 14
    Woooooooooah. says:

    This guy wanted to create “Guantanamo the game” for XBox 360. WTWTWTF?



    • 34
      Moazzam Begg says:

      You can’t beat the real thing though…

      “The character had to shoot his way out of the detention camp to bring down his captors, before he was subjected to torture and scientific experiments.”


  9. 15
    David Miliband, offshore says:

    Quite right

    We need more torture and rendition

    It is the humanitarian thing to do


  10. 16
    Blooming Godfrey says:

    Send the Guardian back to bongo bongo land!


  11. 21
    Owen Jones says:

    Does anyone seriously believe Harriet Harman, Jack Dromey and Patricia Hewitt have any big black gay cock sympathies?’


  12. 24
    Kirkstall massve, Leeds ghetto says:

    isn’t it bro, hees my uncles cousins friend


  13. 25
    Harman is evil says:

    Harpic’s gone into damage limitation mode. Her spokeswoman has said she “of course” regrets the affiliation. Even the bbc website says “Appearing on BBC Two’s Newsnight programme on Monday, she repeatedly sidestepped questions about whether it had been a mistake to allow the P*edophile Information Exchange to be affiliated to the civil liberties group.”


    • 28
      Prime Minister"Money's no object" Cameron says:

      That is just a load of garbage. Can I offer you more benefits for your vote?


    • 31
      Anonymous says:

      So why didn’t Harriet’s beloved Labour government do something about all those “titilating” images in the DM during their 13 years in power?


    • 42
      Cazual Observer 8 says:

      By trying to make the case that Mail photo’s are ‘titivating’ she is making a dangerous admission that she herself finds such images sexually stimulating.

      This is not helping her ‘I’m not really a p’edo sympathizer’ line.

      In any case, Harman has a record for being less than honest in her propaganda.

      Recall the r’ape statistics slap down from Baroness S’tern:



      • 55
        Harman is evil says:

        Yeah, her “titivating” remark was LOL. Thicko c-unt.


        • 61
          just asking says:

          Harman claimed there were 1,000 of affiliates to the NCCL.
          Let’s see a list of them.

          Also did she provide legal advice to PIE members?


          • Mitch says:

            The list I saw had less than 10 affiliates.

            She can’t seriously say that literally “anybody” could affiliate. She wouldn’t have had a problem with the NF being affiliated, then?


          • C.O.Jones says:

            The NF were the only political party at the time that were opposed to PIE. I recall there being disturbances at the time that were televised and on mainstream news that showed the NF demonstrating against PIE.

            Believe me there is a LOT of stuff on all this shit that the media have on file but will for whatever reason leave in their archives.

            As a matter of interest I have never supported the NF so this is not a pro NF posting, just recalling from memory, that’s all.


  14. 27
    13-year-old terrorist wannabe says:

    I’m having problems getting past moderators here.
    Can anyone give me some instructions on how to make a comb ;)
    Where can I find instructions on how to make a comb ;) on the internet.
    Or how I can send a comb ;) through the post or attach one to someone’s car or get one on to an aeroplane.
    Any advice appreciated.


    • 30
      Mad Frankie Maude says:

      Get hold of some tracing paper and fold it over your comb,put it to your mouth and then start playing some well known tunes,old chap.


      • 137
        altruism in industry says:

        take 1/2 the critical mass of plutonium in one hand and 1/2 the critical mass of plutonium in the other and clap your hands vigorously.


  15. 29
    Big Black Gay Cocks.com says:

    We are ashamed for our association with Mr Dromey and apologise unreservedly


  16. 32
    Guardianistas says:

    But Guardian readers won’t see him as a terrorist. They’re all pro-muzee idiots who think America deserved 9/11.


    • 35
      A right fucking bastard says:

      But America DID 9/11 FFS!


      • 43
        Guardianistas says:

        Got enough foil in the hat there, tinny?


        • 73
          Tin foil hat says:

          Are you a Govt troll?

          Interesting information about manipulation of opinion on the Internet, by Governments and their agencies.



        • 110
          Just pull it! says:

          You must admit, building 7 looked well dodgy collapsing like that.

          They should have arrested the construction company CEOs for putting up such a shoddily built building.


          • altruism in industry says:

            funny about the BBC’s premonition that WTC7 was going to collapse


          • Bemused says:

            It was Saudis on the planes, Bin Laden was a Saudi, AlQueda is financed by Saudis.

            So Bush went “OK Saudis, we get the message. What do you want from us?”

            And the Saudis said “Well if you want our oil and for us to stop killing your people, get your troops out of Saudi, attack our enemy Saddam and give us a free reign in Arabia”

            And Bush went “OK, but how can we make this believable to our people?”

            And the Saudis said “You can go after the Taliban – not Saudi. You can make it look like you are going after Bin Laden – but don’t actually find him”.

            And Bush went “OK. but please I beg you, don’t stop our oil, my friends won’t like it”

            And after that Bush tried to turn corn into oil, so desparate had the neo-cons become to get away from being screwed by the Saudis.


          • The view from Haifa says:

            Does nobody consider it just the tiniest bit strange that the main victims of those silly buildings all falling down by themselves were all employed in finance, banking and/or insurance industry. Now who would benefit from a bloody great collapse like that – especially when the lower floors were seen to be destroyed by controlled explosions? High rises do not pancake themselves into a pile of rubble on their own you know.


        • 176
          Say no to tinfoil says:

          Guido, can you get modbots that bar tinfoilhattery. Thanks.


  17. 37
    tories are the nazi party says:

    justice in the uk – yes, i remember it well ……….



  18. 38
    Anonymous says:

    bbc panorama done program on begg when arrested in afghanstan on his so called charity work there. on bbc reguler for his opion on various stories


    • 65
      BBC News and Propaganda Unit says:

      We employed Savile.
      We’ve given sympathetic coverage to an anti-British terrorist.
      We censored the Harman story until she came up with a “defence”.

      Shut up and pay your licence fee.


      • 97
        BBC Campaigns Dept. says:

        The unfortunate arrest of Moazzem Begg will not affect our support for the campaign to get British resident Shaker Aamer released from Guantanamo Bay and returned to the UK for the enjoyment of bennies or a job on the Guardian.


      • 105
        Time 2 CTRL, ALT & DEL says:

        The BBc got the bone story on right away – just for balance


  19. 41
    Was he checked out on the sex offenders register before this photo op? says:


  20. 44
    Just asking says:

    So, does we, the taxpayers, get the compensation the scumbag recieved back?


  21. 48
    A friend of Harriet Harmskids? says:


  22. 50
    just asking says:

    So Labour’s favourite newspaper,The Guardian,employed a terrorist.
    And Labour’s favourite tv channel,the BBC,employed paedos.


  23. 53
    Whippersnapper2 says:

    Gitmo is there for reason. Even the appalling Hussein could not shut it.
    Send this arseole back there for 10 more years treatment and stamp his passport’ accordingly. Ugh ………..


  24. 56
    Black Jack Dromey says:

    Harriet is ramping it up nicely (see latest Tweet =>).

    More Popcorn!!


  25. 57
    Fuck 'em says:

    What’s wrong with waterboarding terrorists?


  26. 58
    Prime Minister"Money's no object" Cameron says:

    Ukrainians celebrate after ousting a hate figure who’s now being pursued by the law.

    I didn’t realise they knew who Piers Morgan was.


  27. 59
    Moley says:

    Interesting information about manipulation of opinion on the Internet, by Governments and their agencies.


    Can’t trust anybody, can you?


    • 69
      Cazual Observer 8 says:


      And it looks like Harman is piling pressure on Cameron to tighten up press regulation also:


      I guess she is hoping to silence the press and avoid having to deal with her past.

      Owen’s little petition smells very much like one of those H’acked O’ff efforts – it is toothless, but a useful tool for manipulating peoples perception of what opinion is.

      The signatures will mainly be from ‘bots’ on the net. Very cheap to buy those services these days.


    • 71
      Moley says:

      Surprise; surprise;

      This post has suddenly been removed from the ZH site, it described how the security services use agents masquerading as members of the public to influence opinions, destroy reputations and malign anybody that Governments do not like.


    • 74
      Guido Fawkes Watch says:

      The map of technologies shown in the article (released by Snowden) is very interesting.

      What is also striking is the reach and coverage of blogging.


  28. 64
    The Guardian says:

    We are committed to printing contributions from ALL who make up this diverse land.

    Except for conservatives, obviously. And people who oppose unrestricted immigration. And supporters of the Monarchy. And…pretty much everyone who isn’t a nutter, really.


  29. 72
    chrisb says:

    Cameron and Hague wanted to bomb Syria. Does that make them guilty of ‘Syria-related terrorism offences’ ?


  30. 75
    whippet says:

    BBC rowing back on it’s defence of HarPIE. Now had one of those uncomfortable chats on News24 where it was said the situation isn’t as clear cut as it was believed to be earlier. But haven’t updated headlines to reflect this and is still banging on about the ‘smear campaign’.

    So someone at the BBC has actually bothered to look at the evidence nearly a week after? (Well years after)

    Still plenty of time to bury it before the 6pm news as is standard BBC SOP for labour scandals. Hope I’m wrong for once but recently it’s happened too frequently.


    • 93
      jgm2 says:

      but recently it’s happened too frequently.


      They’ve had total control of the BBC for the past 20+ years.

      The only slight wobble was when the BBC, from their entrenched leftist position, objected to Blair manufacturing evidence for a war in Iraq. However a ‘Hutton style enquiry’ reminded the BBC who was boss and they’ve had their tail between their legs in the presence of Labour ever since.


      • 123
        The BBC says:

        Since at least 1978 when we were supporting the IRA, anti-Thatcher and anti-Falklands war.


        • 154
          whippet says:

          Happy to be corrected, I remember the BBC giving away the reason for Argentine bombs not exploding in our ships which no doubt helped them kill more of our troops.


      • 127
        George Orwell says:

        The BBC were infiltrated by Fabian Marxists way back during the wartime. I did warn you. Even before the war people like Guy Burgess were working at the “Minstry of Truth” as I called it.


        • 168
          Jack Ketch says:

          JB Priestly, the most popular BBC contributor in the war years was also on “Orwell’s List”. (Wasn’t Lord Reith a “confirmed bachelor”?)


  31. 76
    Disgusting says:

    Pie were ‘child rapists’ according to Julie Blindel.
    Harman cannot, under any circumstance, remain in her job.


  32. 85
    Harman is evil says:

    Of course, if it had been revealed that a senior Tory had been linked to a group like PIE, there would be absolutely no outcry from Labour would there? No siree bob! Harriet and co would be completely silent and not demand any resignations at all.


    • 99
      jgm2 says:

      And the BBC wouldn’t be covering it 24/7 across the full range of output. And have teams of archivists working 24/7 to search through their records for any more dirt.


  33. 86
    Tony Blair says:

    I put a 100 year secrecy order on Operation Ore to protect Labour nonces. What is important is what is important is what is important is!


  34. 90
    John Bellingham says:

    One really has to wonder of the mental abilities of the leadership of the Labour Party. The story of Harman, Dromey and Hewitt’s association with PIE has been on the Internet for years; yet they ignored the DMs recent campaign. After weeks of thinking about it, Harman and her minders, decide to get a soft interview with the totally supportive BBC and Harman bodges it in one of the worst interviews she has made since the last one. 24Hrs later she “twitters” a couple of things that she could have said in the interview. The whole Labour shadow cabinet trotted out to Parliament Green to give their support thus permanently linking themselves to her performance.
    The Daily Mail may next point out that Jack Dromey’s boss at the NCCL was none other than Margaret Hodges late husband, Harry. Lady Hodge is well remembered as being head of Islington Council when a shameful cover-up of a PDfile ring operating in children’s homes in that borough was made.
    This story has several more chapters to play out.


  35. 92
    Typical leftie tactics to deflect attention from themselves says:


  36. 94
    C.O.Jones says:

    When politicians use schools and hospitals as photo opportunities, have they been CRB checked?


  37. 95
    Vacuous non entity says:

    Seriously, that pathetic little Chris Leslie is talking about ‘decluttering’ in Government department.
    Jesus fucking Christ, decluttering…
    Where do they get these numpties?


  38. 96
    Alan Rubbisher, pianist says:

    We’re proud of them (smug face)!


  39. 104
    Madness says:

    Why would anyone go out on a limb to protect Harman?


    • 112
      Mitch says:

      They don’t want the Mail to get a scalp. But, methinks the Mail will be going up to 11 tomorrow.


      • 135
        Eat PIE bitch says:

        Yes, Mail must have pretty solid info to push this.

        She’ll either have to resign, or higher ups will tell the Mail to back off – national security and all that bollocks – if it starts to implicate too many others.

        unfortunately for them, the internet won’t shut up or go away.


    • 134
      The Fabian Society says:

      The end always justifies the means, even if the means is creating an army of kiddie fiddlers to bring down the existing order.


    • 140
      Persona non grata says:

      She knows where a lot of bodies are buried.


  40. 108
    Jack Ketch says:

    From the film “Michael”

    Pie, pie, me oh my,
    Nothing tastes better, wet, salty and dry,
    all at once – oh, well it’s pie.
    Apple and pumpkin and mince and black bottom,
    I’ll come to your place every day if you’ve got ‘em.
    Pie, me oh my, I love piiiiieeeeeee


  41. 111
    Gregg Shapps, Z list vacuous Tory says:

    I’m all form and no substance

    Like Empy Ed

    Funny that…


  42. 117
    BBC Daily Politcs says:

    So let’s ask Chris Leslie about Harriet Harman and give him free reign for two minutes to waffle on in support of her, but let’s not ask the Tory or Labour guests (or even Griff Rhys Jones) what they think.

    So no bias there at all.


    • 132
      Dave says:

      Ask my MPs all you want. I have ordered them to say nothing on this subject.

      He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones.


  43. 119
    The Harmon Guide to Political Obfuscation says:

    1] Deny all knowledge of wrongdoing. It doesn’t matter if this is an outrageous lie, because total ignorance is difficult to disprove.

    2] Claim that whilst you may look like you were involved you were secretly on the other side.

    3] Claim that any documentary evidence is taken out of context, and if audience could only see the context you would see that not only were you innocent but you were an all round good egg

    4] Point your finger at your accusers and claim they are even worse, even if your claims are outrageous and daft. Remember half of Brits have an IQ less than 100 and are stupid enough to believe anything you say, so you will at least win them over.

    5] When it’s obvious you are really fucked just tell outrageous porkies – what have you got to lose? Always remember that 30% of people are highly suggestible, so of the 50% that were not outwitted by strategy [4], 30% will believe you because they are communicating with you on an emotional level. You now have 2/3rds of the public on your side just by telling porkies and “looking believable” – you win!

    6] If any one of these appears not to be working, try all of them in sequence even though they may appear to be contradictory

    7] Find a notoriously soft interviewer in a friendly part of the media before saying anything. Try not to be lulled into a false sense of security by a couple of soft-ball questions early on – sometimes even friendly interviewers can turn on you if they think it might make their career [oops]

    8] If the shit is still on its way to the fan, try admitting to something benign the next day and see if that puts everything to rest, it will help support your strategy in [5]

    And Always remember that “the end justifies the means”, so you are innocent of all crimes and misdemeanours because you are pushing Britain towards a glorious utopian future (even if it looks like the future is going to be full of kiddie fiddlers…..)


    • 129
      Straw Man says:

      Also deny something that you weren’t even accused of doing.


    • 133
      Cazual Observer 7 says:

      Another tactic she may pull out of the bag is the Straw-Yeo gambit.

      Appeal on an emotional level to the innate inferiority complex which seems to be pervasive among the inferior Brits.

      Put up a mask of hurt, and quietly assume a posture of stoic hurt at the offensive accusations that have been thrown your way.

      The mong public will be fooled into thinking the Mail are attacking them, and stand in solidarity etc.

      Not sure if will work when defending against these kinds of allegations, but she is giving it a damned good go.


      • 139
        Bemused says:

        That will be the next strategy. The full on emotional appeal. You can see her working up to it now. I’m guessing the Mail won’t fall for it this time. They will wait till she’s tried that one on, then they wheel out the people abused by members of P I E and trump her emotional blackmail. I’m pretty sure they have been holding back on examining the damage done by P I E waiting to really stick the knife in.


        • 143
          Cazual Observer 7 says:

          Am certain the people will not either.

          Headlines about her defending this kind of stuff, next to cute picture of mum with baby (even a dog licking S’imon C’owell’s) : The strategy won’t wash.


  44. 128
    When Pride becomes Shame says:

    These gay pride marches, where they mince openly through the streets in their erotic underwear snogging and fondling each other is sexualising Children to perverted sex.


  45. 157
    Anon. says:


    • 158
      Anon. says:

      Here’s one. She stands shoulder to shoulder.


      • 164
        Bemused says:

        Ah, there it is “the end justifies the means” excuse.

        Knew that one was coming.

        “It doesn’t matter that she helped support an organisation that got all manner of child sex pervs together communicating, organising and swapping photos. What matters is her minor contribution to feminism”.


      • 165
        cheche says:

        Especially if you are her husband

        PS Is this picture of 5 bellies from the 1970’s as well


      • 170
        JH945894343432945 says:

        The flipside being that she was happy to support an organisation that wanted to legalise the abuse of young boys by gay men.

        I knew she hated men in general but that does rather take things to a new level.


  46. 159
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Owen Jones? PLEASE let it be Owen Jones!


  47. 173
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    It’s about time we had all women shortlists for the Trades Union leaders.

    Vile Trades Union dinosaurs like McCluskey,Crow and Serwotka should step down in favour of women elected on an all women shortlist.

    Or is it do as i say and not as i do for Labour’s paymasters!


  48. 175
    Will says:

    Mozzem begg arrested what a surprise. Whenever he writes a guardian article all the comments about his time in Afghanistan are edited out by the mods. To be stripped of your passport is serious indeed but the guardian is starting to look a bit stupid given the company it’s starting to keep as its company and cash in the BVI could be frozen if it is deemed to be assisting terrorists or giving them money !!!


  49. 178
    ANON says:

    The Grauniad report does not seem to mention he wrote in that rag, I presume he was one of their unpaid staff?


  50. 185
    Petition war says:

    Begg? Was he the one who was guantanamo? If so he is a thoroughly nice guy? I thought we were past all this crap. Tony Blair’s legacy continues! Ffs!


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