February 25th, 2014

The NCCL / Penguin Guide to Paedos


  1. 1
    A friend of Harriet Harmskids? says:

  2. 2
    P l e b says:


  3. 3
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    Publish page 184.

  4. 4
    Ladder Shapps says:

    Good idea Guido

    We will call the Tory Party the Civil Liberty Party now


  5. 5
    No you're not says:


  6. 6
    Throg says:

    Has Sally Bercow tweeted about this yet? *hypocritical face*

  7. 7
    hang about.. says:

    But Harman claimed in the Newsnight interview that PIE
    had been “pushed away” from the NCCL in 1976.

  8. 8
    Anonymous says:

    Oh dear

  9. 9
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Stomach-turning sickness.

    Looks like Harman and others are fighting a desperate rearguard action after they’ve been exposed as working with these horrible groups but their cover-ups are unravelling within hours of their public statements.

  10. 10
    Mitch says:

    That would be useful.

  11. 11
    Billy Big says:

    Harperson will say scum like this has rights!

    He has the right to be beaten till he is nothing but a twitching mess.

  12. 12
    Blooming Godfrey says:

    That must be true! I believe everything I hear on the BBC and read in The Guardian.

  13. 13
    M102 says:

    Is it available on Kindle?

  14. 14
    Anon. says:

    How about Ed Miliband or those one?…

  15. 15
    and says:

    She also claimed that PIE was one of 1,000 affiliates to the NCCL.

    Who were the others?

  16. 16
    Harriet Harmskids says:

    It might be available on Kiddie.

  17. 17
    Anon. says:

    Harman is a liar.

  18. 18
  19. 19
    EdMiliband says:


  20. 20
    M102 says:

    Is Harman on the Womens Hour power list like Hodge?

  21. 21
    Harman is evil says:

    And Newsnight and BBC News in general are still saying PIE wanted the age of consent reduced to 10, when in fact it was 4!!!

  22. 22
    Bemused says:

    On the document shown by the BBC there were only seven listed.

  23. 23
    Mad Hattie Harboy says:

    The male should be apologising.

  24. 24
    i don't need no doctor says:

    It’s amazing the amount of air time the BBC is now giving to Harman, allowing her to defend herself. All this after days of the BBC ignoring the story.
    Strange then that Lord McAlpine wasn’t afforded a similar amount of air time to defend himself.
    Then there was Emily Thornberry who was ridiculed on Question Time. She then appeared on the BBC several times and given an nice easy time on each occasion.
    The BBC knowingly biased towards labour.

  25. 25
    Jimmy Savile says:

    Just think, if Harriet and Patricia and their mates in P.I.E. had had their way, everything I did would have been legal. Now then! Now then!

  26. 26
    8illy says:

    I got over a thousand of them

  27. 27

    Yes. She did say that! Yet they were still members when she left in 1982.

    So what, exactly, got pushed? And into what?

  28. 28
    Phantomsby says:

    Is there a Europhile Information Exchange as well?

  29. 29
    Mornington Crescent says:

    As always, it’s the cover-up that gets ‘em.

  30. 30
    10, Oh that's OK then says:


  31. 31

    She was counting in binary?

  32. 32
    Harman is evil says:

    Have to give credit to Laura Kuenssberg though. Harpic must’ve thought she’d get an easy ride from a BBC programme but LK did a Paxo and asked the same question repeatedly, which showed up what a slimy piece of shit Harman is.

  33. 33
    Harridan Harpic says:

    They may have been peedos, but they were our peedos

  34. 34
    C.O.Jones says:

    I am getting that impression as the facts (if they are) emerge.

  35. 35
    The BBC says:

    The BBC has learnt that on Page 184 of the Fourth Edition of “Civil liberty: the NCCL guide to your rights“ undermines the Dromey / Harman claim to have severed the NCCL link to PIE when they were in control.

  36. 36
    It's all going tits up for Oiky Gove says:

    “E-Act chain loses control of 10 academy schools”

  37. 37

    The cover-up of the uncovering.

    If the subject matter were no so serious, there could be another Oscar Wilde saying in the offing here.

  38. 38
    Anon. says:

  39. 39
    Patricia Hewitt says:

    Thousands died when I was Health Secretary and I’m free as a bird, so I don’t think I’m going to get into trouble over my links with kiddie fiddlers!

  40. 40
    Táxpáyér says:

    Will AlJaBeebya cover it up, or do they think it will distract from their own p43do scandal?

  41. 41
    NCCL Press Office says:

    Yes Kenneth Clarke is believed to be a keen member. Also of the Europhile one.

  42. 42
    and says:

    The cover-up has been going on for 40 years.
    A proper expose’ is long overdue.

  43. 43
    jgm2 says:

    Badly counting in binary in that case.

    As any fule know, there are 10 types of people. Those who understand binary and those who don’t.

  44. 44
    The Daily Mail says:

    The Daily Mail has learnt hat on Page 184 of the Fourth Edition of “Civil liberty: the NCCL guide to your rights“ undermines the Dromey / Harman claim to have severed the NCCL link to PIE when they were in control.

    On page two we have lifted some pictures from @abandonedpictures and made a shit story out of them. Still, it’s free.

  45. 45
    Harman is evil says:

    You can find Emily in the local cake shop. She’s a bit of a fat c-unt.

    P.S. Julia gives me the horn. Nothing like posh totty.

  46. 46
    Táxpáyér says:

    Fucks continents without their consent?

  47. 47
    Tony Blair says:

    He did the same to me you know!

  48. 48
    Beeboid liebour defenders says:

    Soon we must move on to other matters, eg mothers in Africa giving birth without medical presence…..BBC1 13:16. Of course we must send money now. We are now in our comfort zone and that beastly Andrew pierce should be ashamed.

  49. 49
    Grand Mufti Diver says:

    What’s the issue?

  50. 50
    Táxpáyér says:

    Not to mention IR35 to gift your “ex”employers some fat fees.

  51. 51
    A parent says:

    When you consider that no 14 year old gets nicked for having consensual sex with another 14 year old who benefits most from lowering of the age of consent?
    Someone older.often substantially older.
    Mostly men let’s be fair.
    Campaigns to lower the age of consent are nothing more than ‘a dirty old man charter’.
    Hope you are proud Harriet.

  52. 52
    Round the Bend says:

    Someone has stuck a label on the front cover of a NCCL publication. So what!

  53. 53
    Will says:

    The problem is that labour claim it was different back then. Well why are dave lee travis, jim Davidson, Freddie Starr and others from that era being taken to court then.

  54. 54
    Right Full Rudder says:

    Could this be any worse for Labour? I’m struggling to think of another party scandal involving something quite this repugnant. What must this be doing to them in working class heartlands?

    “Hello I’m your Labour candidate…”

    “Kids! Get inside and lock the door!”

  55. 55
    Bye bye Harriet, Jack, Pietricia says:

    Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

  56. 56
    iRony says:

    Oh the irony of the BBC covering for Harman in a p@edo scandal story.

  57. 57
    Reality Cheque says:

    Laura K got closer to nailing the reality avoider, H@rm@n, than anyone else seen previously. Is her probation period already over, if not she needs to be careful.

  58. 58
    Michael Howard says:

    Me too ….. 12 times

  59. 59
    and says:

    Let’s not forget Dromey’s part in all of this.
    He served for 10 years on the executive of the NCCL
    when PIE were affiliated.

  60. 60
    The British media are cunts says:

    I do believe somebody at the Daily Mail has grown a pair.

  61. 61
  62. 62
    Kitty says:

    This is no laughing matter!

  63. 63
    Ctesibius says:

    Or Lib Dem? – ‘Would your sons mind dressing up in football kit and poo-ing on me?’

    ‘Not at all Mr. Oaten’.

  64. 64
    Silent Majority says:

    You can see why Labour want press regulation. They can bury all their sordid secrets.

  65. 65
    Margaret Hodge, children in Islington says:

    Straight from Wiki:
    In 1985, Demetrious Panton complained about abuse that he had suffered while in the council’s care in the 1970s and 1980s. He did not receive an official reply until 1989, in which the council denied responsibility.[10]

    In 1990, Liz Davies, a senior social worker employed by the borough and her manager, David Cofie, raised concerns about sexual abuse of children in Islington Council care. Correspondence between Hodge and the director of social work indicates that she declined a request for extra resources to investigate. In early 1992, Davies (not to be confused with the barrister and former Islington councillor) resigned from her post and requested that Scotland Yard investigate the allegations. The Evening Standard then began reporting on the allegations of abuse in Islington’s children’s homes, shortly after which Hodge resigned to pursue a career with Price Waterhouse. In 1995, the “White Report” into sexual abuse in Islington Care Homes reported that the council had failed adequately to investigate the allegations.[11]

    In 2003, following Hodge’s appointment as Minister for Children, Panton went public with his allegation that he was abused in Islington Council care and had repeatedly raised this issue with no effect. He accused Hodge of being ultimately responsible for the abuse that he suffered. Davies also went public with the issues that she had raised concerns about while working for the council.[12] Following a media campaign conducted by several national newspapers calling for her to resign from her new post, she responded to Panton by letter, in which she apologised for referring to him as ‘an extremely disturbed person’ in an earlier letter to then BBC chairman Gavyn Davies which was broadcast on Radio 4’s Today programme. Hodge was forced to publicly apologise and offered to contribute to a charity of Panton’s choosing as recompense.[13]

  66. 66
    Jack Ketch says:

    The silly woman repeated that claim on a Sky News interview at lunchtime and added “PIE were not permitted to address the NCCL conference and were pushed out of the organisation”.
    This conflicts with the recorded and documented fact that Tom O’Carroll, one of the top nonces, addressed the NCCL conference in 1977, although the NCCL executive did not circulate his speech afterwards as they did others. While it is true that Harman was not the legal officer for the NCCL at that time, her husband, Jack Dromey, Patricia Hewitt and Harry Hodge, late husband of Margaret were officials at the time.
    Golden rule: Stop digging when the hole gets too deep.

  67. 67
    iRony says:

    Oh the irony of the BBC covering for Harman in a p@edo scandal!

  68. 68
    Gary Glitter says:

    Don’t forget me!

  69. 69
    IKEA boss says:

    Have the chairs re-inforced Julia.

  70. 70
    me too says:

    Yes please.

  71. 71
    Ed Balls says:

    The next Labour government will ban the press. Just a rolling 24 hour Labour news channel, AKA BBC News.

  72. 72
    Woooooooooah. says:

    She should apologise for that fucking hair cut too.

  73. 73
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    A timely reminder that Labour no longer recognise that England,Scotland & Wales are nations in their own right.

    So are Labour going to demand the 6 nations rugby trophy be renamed the 4 nations trophy (France,Ireland,Italy & One Nation something or other).

    Voters take note, especially patriotic Scots in September :-)

  74. 74
    BBC Briefing Note #65389 says:

    It is important to ensure that you only report that Harriet “worked for” or “gave legal advice to” the NCCL, and not that she was actually it’s “the legal officer”.

    Also refrain from mentioning that Jack sat on the NCCL executive committee, and Patsy was the NCCL’s General Secretary and should have known better

  75. 75
    Reality Cheque says:

    Stop press, BBC One, 13:35, half of Manc benders have been called que’er.

    Business as usual for the Beeb then, defenders of the little lambs.

  76. 76
    Reality Cheque says:

    Will Al Beeb be in Ar@bic Ed? Might as well get it all over with at one time.

  77. 77
    err says:

    Has she eaten too many pies?

  78. 78

    To continue:

    Harman is using the fallacy of false equivalence in comparing the Mail posting a photograph of Courtney Stodden and her friends in bikinis when young (not illegal) with the main objective of PIE (highly illegal) and on whose behalf she sought to have the law relaxed.

    Courtney Stodden was some way into her puberty when the photograph in Harman’s Tweet was taken. PIE wanted to reduce the age of consent to 4 (four!) years old.

    Then Harman has the gall to add “When it comes to decency and sexualisation of children…” Excuse me, Ms Harman, but the purpose of PIE was to enable adults to fuck infant children! The clue is in the name, if you would not be so thick.

    If you claim that the Mail’s actions were bad then yours, by comparison, were criminal.

  79. 79
    Photoshop says:


  80. 80
    how cosy says:

    Hewitt is godmother to one of Harman and Dromey’s kids.

  81. 81
    Simple Simon says:

    Owen Jones is a child and regularly metaphorically sucks Jack Dromeys cock.
    What else can be said.

  82. 82
    ex-tory cabinet minister caught on film says:


  83. 83
    Joyce Thacker says:

    No need to lock the doors to protect the UKIP kiddies. I already have them in custody.

  84. 84
    Jack Ketch says:

    What’s with the constant modding ? This is getting so frustrating, it’s hardly worth the trouble.

  85. 85
    A parent says:

    How many 16 year old gays were as keen to have sex with an older gay man as he was to have sex with them?
    Lowering the age of consent benefits the dirty old men more than anyone.

  86. 86
    BBC Uman Capital Dept says:

    She has been sent for re-training to Pyongyang

  87. 87
    Cazual Observer 7 says:

    @jgm2: In Harriet’s defence, she has never claimed to be a mathematician.

    Look back at her r’ape statistic claims for confirmation.

  88. 88
    P l e b says:

    There’s a long list of Tory p@edos too…

  89. 89
    Cathy Newmanmanman says:

    You’re all sexists here. And white. Parliament has to represent all sections of society.

  90. 90
    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    They have probably been waiting all week for her to a) give them permission to report what has been in the Mail and b) let them know what she wants the BBC to do in her defence.

    Don’t forget there are people like ex-Labour Minister James Purnell at the top of the BBC now.

  91. 91
    well i never says:


  92. 92
    Jack Ketch says:

    MODBOT TEST @ 13h46
    PIE, HARMAN, BUM, WILLY, TITS, Dromey, Big Black things, NCCL, Labour Party, money from EU, Mandelson, Brazilan Samba, Operation YewRnicked.

  93. 93
    jimbooo says:

    Don’t forget that one of New Labour’s first actions was the legally empower 50 year old men to have sex with 16 year old school boys. We’re told this is “progressive” (whatever that word means) and should be celebrated.

  94. 94
    Anonymous says:

    Write your comment,copy it, refresh the page then past and post it.

  95. 95
    An enricher says:

    All this talk about PIE is missing one vital point.

    I blame the Husbands of any 14 year old left to wander into mischief on their own.

    And why aren’t they at home looking after the babies?

  96. 96
    Ctesibius says:

    If you do a google search you can find a survey done by the P I E in 1976 which shows with absolute clarity that the majority of its members were young homosexuals in their ’20’s who were attracted to boys in the range of 10-14. Not dirty old men but active predatory p@edos. Unfortunately I can’t publish the link because of the m-bot.

  97. 97
    jgm2 says:


    On the other hand when she claimed 1000 affiliates for NCCL that works out at 8 in decimal if you assume the claim of 1000 was in binary. Which apparently is a figure closer to the truth.

  98. 98
    Jack Ketch says:

    No idea.

  99. 99
    PJ says:

    Someone needs to turn up the heat on that ex-Tory cabinet minister. All ties in with PIE thirty years ago.

  100. 100
    I can't disagree with that. says:

  101. 101
    Cazual Observer 7 says:

    Hodge has attempted an apology for her defamation of P’anton:


    The letter:


    For Labour it is baby steps…

  102. 102
    William Wilberforce says:

    If the cover up is well organised and carried out in a disciplined and sustained fashion you can get away with anything.


    Os y clawr i fyny yn cael ei drefnu’n dda ac yn cael ei wneud mewn modd disgybledig a pharhaus y gallwch ei gael i ffwrdd ag unrhyw beth.

  103. 103
    Tory spin doctor says:

    We want press regulation too

    BTW Did you like our rebranding this morning?

    Those heroes of the working class Shapps, Halfon and Feldman?

    It was a classic car crash don’t you think?

    We are into comedy now – nothing else to say

  104. 104
    Anonymous says:

    On now.

  105. 105
    Politician telling the truth? Fookin' 'ell says:

    Will it be when the pigs are flying overhead?

  106. 106
    Ed Moribund says:

    That wicked Julia Hartley-Brewer Is discussing this politically motivated story right now on LBC 97.3

  107. 107
    Cazual Observer 7 says:

    It’s called: The Commission.

  108. 108
    We are waiting Harriet. The Truth and Nothing but the truth says:

    I’m sure that Abbott did not really mean to say that we should hear the truth from Harman but she Has said it. So let’s hear the TRUTH then Harriet.

  109. 109
    Paniagua V5 says:

    On a non partisan point, isn’t it true how the demographics in the house of commons DOES NOT represent the population, i.e

    1. What % of the HoC are gay vs the 3% of the UK public?
    2. What % of the Hoc are common thieves & liars vs whatever % of the UK public?
    3. What % of the HoC are kiddie fiddlers vs whatever % of the UK public?

    Best to simply drop a daisycutter on the top and start again.

  110. 110
    Anonymous says:

    Thornbury just made a fool of herself

  111. 111
    Tory spin doctor says:

    Our press is good now

    Quite like modern McCarthyism really

    Keep at it boys

  112. 112
    Ed Moribund says:

    Its kicking off!!
    JHB just told Emily Thornberry to stop shouting and being abusive to other guests

  113. 113
    helpful suggestion says:

    Harman doesn’t know how to tell the truth.
    Several statements she has made regarding this
    scandal have proved to be false.

  114. 114
    Bemused says:

    I well remember being at primary school back in 1975 and being warned about “dirty old men” hanging around outside the school or in the local woods.

    It was not different back then.

  115. 115
    It stops the Tits sagging says:

  116. 116
    Ed Moribund says:

    You shout that Toby Young down Emily! Don’t answer the question. Attack the Mail!

  117. 117
    jgm2 says:

    Would that be the truth or a Hutton style enquiry?

  118. 118
    Laura K fan says:

    Laura stood in for Nick Robinson a few years back and was 10 times better. She was swiftly aside when Robinson realised he was being usurped.

  119. 119
    Cazual Observer 7 says:

    Hewitt works for Boots and Cinven private equity (who bought out BUPA).


  120. 120
    Socialism Ate My Future says:

    Hypocrisy is best practiced by the Left.

    The al ja beeb response has been abhorrent, could you imagine if this had been a Conservative deputy….

  121. 121
    Mzzz. ‘Mad’ Hatty HaHaHaPerson (the Gift that keeps on Giving), supported by sundry NooLieBore Clito says:

    Oy neva dun nuffin!!! ‘onest guv!!!! Not even when JohnJohn was a fingerin nooliebore wimmin!!

    Sides, – wot arm can a little fiddlin do? Neva done me no ‘arm!!! ‘elped me grow up pdq oy can tellya!!!

  122. 122
    Bemused says:

    And you made big cuts to the NHS which Labour activists have conveniently forgotten about.

  123. 123
    Amen to that says:

    Labour MP calls on her deputy Leader to tell the truth.

  124. 124
    Man On The Clapham Omnibus says:

    Publish p 184 and be damned

  125. 125
    Hat and Pat says:

    We couldn’t get past page 3 ourselves

  126. 126
    Pages 183 and 185 says:

    Where’s page 184????

  127. 127
    Funny he never married says:

    I don’t expect private Eye will be covering this, now they’re well and truly marching down the Common Purpose road (cont. Page 184)

  128. 128
    Jack says:

    Patricia Hewitt was one of the “taxis for hire” too…along with Hoon etc

    So deeply corrupt as well

    Real Blairites

    Total scum

  129. 129

    What took your time fat butt, the truth stops now.

    ‘Up yours Sally’ will be next with her twatting!

  130. 130
    Anonymous says:

    PIE were allowed to affiliate but the National Front were banned.

  131. 131
    JH945894343432945 says:

    It’s not hard to avoid the modbot.

    Words to not use (remove hyphens)

    Pe-a (yeah, I know)

    Can anyone think of any more?

    These are all examples of The Streisand Effect, but who am I to judge, it’s not my blog.

  132. 132
    Bystander 191 says:

    Rearguard . . . . a smart way of saying one covers one’s arsehole?

  133. 133
    Socialism Ate My Future says:

    Not much change from how it is now really.

  134. 134
    Jack says:

    No conflict of interest then with having been Health Secretary

    She is a shameless crook

  135. 135
    Sally says:

    Where abouts are these woods exactly?

  136. 136
    Hypocrisy Watch says:

    She made a complete tit of herself in QT a short while back. Even the renowned hand picked QT audience started to boo her avoiding direct questions.

  137. 137
    truly pathetic says:

    I’m sure Che Guevara used to say that.

  138. 138
    Anonymous says:

    Just wondering which part of #8 they don’t understand #pielover.

  139. 139
    Grouniad Brown says:

    Wish I’d thought of that

  140. 140
    Bemused says:

    A surprisingly high %age of Hebes and foreigners too.

  141. 141
    Anonymous says:

    Has Harriet been wheeled out because of the 3 of them she has (just) the least to answer for? The other two were there longer and seem to hold more senior positions yet nobody is interviewing them.

  142. 142

    We are a country with a long and proud history.

    Gun powder will be fine.

    (So sorry Charles Barry and Augustus Pugin)

  143. 143
    jgm2 says:

    Apparently the N*F were opposed to child sex so I can see how there might have been ‘creative differences’ at the NCCL if they’d been allowed to join.

  144. 144
    Labour says:

    Why not loudspeakers in the street saying “all is well” ?

  145. 145
    Binman says:

    Fuck PE!!! CP and all the other Luvvie Trash.

  146. 146
    Anonymous says:

    I remember a BBC drama where a gay man said he liked having sex with 16 year olds, saying they were old enough to marry etc, i.e. making a case Harriets group would be proud of.

  147. 147
    Jimlfixit says:

    Simple Simon met a PIE man coming down the lane
    Take off your clothes and touch me here the PIE man did proclaim
    Simon looked so scared and sad he asked Harriet for advice
    “I’ve read the PIE mans leaflet and he says it is quite nice”
    But Simon said he was scared and didnt want to do it.
    “Go on Simon, it’s his human right” shrieked leader Patricia Hewitt.

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    Cazual Observer 7 says:

    @jgm2: With Harriet we can forget the truth.

    All that she utters is what she believes will be credible to the ears of the public and not be incriminating for herself.

    Ignoring the seriousness of the current matter at hand, one suspects that the public have had their fill of her approach to PR.

    Did Al Campbell help her prepare for yesterdays interview ? Or was he too busy shilling for A’lbania to join the EU.

  149. 149
    n says:

    Labour are shown again to be facsist

    Putting the “rights” of their affiliates against other groups

  150. 150
    Bemused says:

    She didn’t think quickly enough.

    At the beginning of the interview Harmskids was claiming not to know anything about P I E, amongst the 1000s of organisations she claimed were affiliated to the NCCL. Towards the end she claimed she was actively campaigning against them.

    Brian Walden would never have let her get away with that trick, but then he was an insider and knew all the tricks. No doubt the TV politicians have training courses on them.

  151. 151
    Reality Cheque says:

    Shouldn’t you carry redtak?

  152. 152
    nigels parchute says:

    Last night she mentioned the fact that it was 30 y years ago

    What has that got to do with anything?

    That defence didnt help dlt

  153. 153
    jgm2 says:

    peado-ph-ile and r-ape also fall foul.

  154. 154
    NE Frontiersman says:

    Will Peter Tatchell do?

  155. 155
    Kirkstall massive says:

    they have kids?! god forbid

  156. 156
    A Hodgepodge says:

    I thought his name was Henry.

  157. 157
    A Commenter says:


    + Rac!al slang terms, and country names.

    Remove offending words from within other words.

    eg. Sat-urday will work, otherwise fail.

  158. 158
    non taxable pikey says:

    A whole f’king squadron.

  159. 159
    Jack says:


    And what about those covered by Operation Ore D Notice

    The really explosive scandal is there


    We want the names

  160. 160
    Only chavs shop at Tesco says:

    I knew what a slimy piece of shit Harman is/was when the motoring offence took place. She’s also a hypocrite and is stupid, humourless and bigoted, a white version of Fatt Bott, if you will. Those fuckers deserve each other.

  161. 161
    Harman is evil says:

    JHB is nice totty and not a leftie, so she won’t stand for bollocks from the likes of Emily Fatbelly.

  162. 162
    Harriet Harmskids points and Ian Huntley and says:

    “But he’s even worse than me!”

  163. 163
    HarPIE says:

    No too many PIEs

  164. 164
    fed up in britain says:

    the bitch should be dismissed and slung out of shitsvill liebour.Hunts ALL.

  165. 165
    The Chainsaw of Righteous Justice says:


  166. 166
    Anonymous says:

  167. 167
    jgm2 says:

    A few years ago I watched her on (I think) Question Time.

    Somebody asked some (at the time) topical question regarding wimmin – might have been work related – can’t remember. She’s just sitting there looking out of her mouth and all the panellists and Dimbleby turn to her – it being her ‘area of special interest’ to let her kick off her predicatble tirade of wimmin-speak.

    Nothing. A four or five second silence before the wheels started turning and she realised that his was supposed to be the thing she cared passionately about.

    Then off she spluttered. Mindless, meaningless, endless.

  168. 168
    Cazual Observer 7 says:

    And Che would not need to ensure his motorbike displayed a ‘Wide Load’ warning for other road users.

  169. 169
    Reality Cheque says:

    This is dynamite. The report author, summariser or client? WE must be told HARRI

  170. 170
    Bemused says:

    Nothing wrong with exposing secret Marxist 5th columnists and kiddie fiddlers….

    ….unless you’re in the Labour Party of course.

  171. 171
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Why does Harpic keep saying she won’t say sorry to the Mail. Her apology is for giving support to an organisation that abused thousands of children not the Mail. She’s pathetically trying to make herself the victim when it’s the kids molested by PIE who were given at leat tacid support by Harpic’s lot.

  172. 172
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Yes it’s absolutely essential that we now adopt the United States written constitution enshrining free speech,free press & the right to keep and bear arms.

  173. 173
    jgm2 says:

    Harriet is in the frame because she’s Deputy Leader. But her imbecile husband could be wheeled in by the Mail if it won’t stick to Hattie.

  174. 174
    The Public says:

    Go away Dave, we need T’hatcher.

    Vote UKIP.

  175. 175
    Quota says:

    Harman’s interview and non-apology was a car crash.

    Unfortunately this is what happens when you give jobs to people based on their sex rather than their competence or ability

  176. 176
    neitherdeadnoralive says:

    I’d of thought even Labour MP’s wern’t stupid enough to be associated with Harman over this, let alone defend her; but thank god Emily has restored my belief that there is always at least one of them stupid enough to do it !!

  177. 177
    jgm2 says:

    Ian Huntley killed two kids. How many did your war in Iraq kill Hattie?

  178. 178
    Ϲunt says:

    Never, ever, ever say the word above.

  179. 179
    Who is responsible? says:

    Meanwhile the latest incarnation of a NHS branch admits its previous incarnation shouldn’t have sold in patient hospital data -millions of records for a “steal” at a couple of thousand quid.
    Some representatives of theirs are appearing before Commons Health Committee this afternoon re care.data.
    Will the shocking sale of the in patient data be discussed?

  180. 180
    Anonymous says:

    The Daily Mail are still pro EU quislings though…

  181. 181
    Cazual Observer 7 says:

    The data gathered from P.I.E. was used to put together a book on the subject of ‘Child Love’ by Wilson / Cox in

    It’s on Amazon: ISBN-10: 0720606039 (published: 1981)

    That gives a better idea about what NCCL were involved with at the time.

    First few pages read like a standard Labour rebuttal to criticism, which is somewhat chilling.

  182. 182
    Ϲunt says:

    Does Harriet shave down there?

  183. 183
    neitherdeadnoralive says:

    But I’ll still vote Labour coz me da did and me granda did so will I.

  184. 184
    NE Frontiersman says:


    claims that known PIE activists, whom he names, were on the management committee and executive before and during the period Harman and Dromey were
    on the staff of the NCCL. He claims that PIE and another group were invited to affiliate.

  185. 185
    Cazual Observer 7 says:

    The survey you refer is published on a F’rench wiki:


  186. 186
    BBC Head Of News says:

    Don’t worry, by the time we’re finished David Cameron will be making an apology on behalf of the Conservative Party.

  187. 187
    Johnathan King says:

    Or me

  188. 188
    Len Fairclough says:

    Or me

  189. 189
    I dislike socialists intensely says:

    What is Harman hiding ? If she is so sure that she did nothing wrong
    why does she not sue the Daily Mail for libel ?

  190. 190
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    But the fvckers in Islington will still happily vote for the hag if she is contesting her seat next year.

  191. 191
    Gerbil 7 says:

    Nothing will happen.
    The BBC is on-side so that’s the end of it.
    The story will be gone within a week.

  192. 192
    JJ7 says:

    What percentage of the members of the HoP are Jooish? relative their <0.5% of the total UK population?

    It doesn't quite stack up with the equalitarian (libertarian?) agenda (of all ethnicities are equal in ability) and the null hypothesis.

  193. 193
    Nigella Lawson says:


  194. 194
    Jack Ketch says:

    The 1689 Bill of Rights guarantees the right to bear arms (for Protestant Englishmen) and freedom of speech (in Parliament)–fat lot of good that’s done.

  195. 195
    Technomist says:

    Guido, I also have a copy of the Third Edition of the NNCL handbook, published by Penguin in 1978.

    See page 183:

    “The following publications and organisations may be helpful:



    …Pae-dophile Informaiton Exchange, C/O Release, 1 Elgin Avenue, London W9, (No telephone)

    The Opening Credits for the Books lists the following:

    Lawrence Grant
    Patricia Hewitt
    Christin Jackson
    Howard Levenson

    Amongst the 34 people listed on p11 in the ‘Acknowledgements’ are Jack Dromey, Henry Hodge and Helena Kennedy. The manuscript was typed by Alison hannah, Catherine Scoroer and Julia Keech, with additional credit given to Lesley Fowler for ‘editing assistance’

    In fairness to Harriet harman, she is nowhere mentioned in this edition.

  196. 196
    Airey Belvoir says:

    Is it the case that, while most gay men are not p@edos, most p@edos are gay men?

  197. 197
    Lord Hutton friend of Tont Blair says:

    An enquiry will be set up and a suitable placeman…err…I meant judge will be appointed to whitewash the whole proceeding

  198. 198
    There's a lot more to this than meets the eye says:

    People need to have a dig around Margaret Hodge’s (nee Oppenheimer) closet too.

    Plenty of skeletons.

  199. 199
    TThis shows how fooked we are says:

    And THAT is from a supposedly intelligent woman, the Shadow Attorney General no less.

  200. 200
    Judge Dreadful says:

    Arrest them. Sieze their assets under the Proceeds of Crime Act.

  201. 201
    I've had just about enough of this shit says:

    Double barrelled surname = mouthy cow who doesn’t know her place OR limp-wristed husband who lets his wife flounce around town whilst he does the washing up.

  202. 202
    Mrs Jack Dromey says:

    Who cares?

  203. 203
    Pietricia Hewitt, mum of a son charged with possessing cocaine says:

    My husband might be willing to be Chairman. He’s a Judge and all that.

  204. 204
    Right Full Rudder says:

    She joined in 1978 so that handbook may predate her involvement.

  205. 205
    What a family the Dromeys are says:

    Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.
    Isn’t that what we’re continually told?

  206. 206
    House of Cards - It's all beginning to make sense says:

    You begin to wonder what skeletons Peter Tatchell has in his cupboard.

  207. 207
    Tom Watson says:

    Funny ‘innit…you’ve not heard a peep from me lately!

  208. 208
    I've seen better looking weevils says:

    Definitely not on looks, eh Hattie?

  209. 209
    I've had just about enough of this shit says:

    George Robertson, Phillip Lyon, a certain Anthony Lynton.

  210. 210
    Intelligent geek says:

    After page 183?

  211. 211
    Rolf says:


  212. 212
    Gutsy lady (well, a woman with a huge gut) says:

    Eat it?

  213. 213
    Owen Jones says:

    Please sign my petition:

    “I agree that because Mail Online publishes pictures of teenage Kardashians and the like, that means Harriet Harman did nothing wrong”

  214. 214
    JH945894343432945 says:

    Use bitly or equivalent url shortening service.

  215. 215
    Anonymous says:

    I wonder whether he bush stops above/below her bellybutton??

  216. 216
    A bit sad, really says:

    I’d’ve, I would’ve, I would have, I would like to think that, etc.

    Also weren’t, not wern’t.

    Are you a survivor of Labour edjukashon policy? Poor dear.

  217. 217
    JH945894343432945 says:

    Read the bit in red underneath the picture.

    It was published in 1989, a full 11 years after she joined.

  218. 218
    A bit sad, really says:

    And you made big Hunts of the NHS, which Labour have conveniently forgotten about.

    FIFY :-)

  219. 219
    Deafening silence from Dave Cammo says:

    The one thing Labour chavscum hate more than tories is peedohs.

    Labour could be facing a meltdown.

    Why isn’t spastic Dave piling on the pressure? Bit suss, if you ask me.

    Perhaps he’s concerned that the PIE membership list will find its way onto the tinterwebs.

  220. 220
    Jacky weirdy beardy Dromey says:

    I like big black cock don’t forget. Mmm, my favourite.

  221. 221
    Mo Begg says:

    Meet you there with baseball bats in a hour.

  222. 222
    John Bellingham says:

    Ed Milliband offers his “100 % support” to Harriet Harman.
    What if that backfires?

  223. 223
    It's not a surprise though, is it says:

    Mr Brittan, I believe.

  224. 224
    Mo Begg says:

    Hewitt will graciously take the hit.

  225. 225
    DannyBoy says:

    Amazing that the BBC and the Guardian won’t even put this as their top story, business as usual then.

    I see Harman is trying the attack the Daily Mail defense. Pathetic.

    Pictures of teenage celebrities vs a politician condoning pedophiles?

    She has not challenged any of the Mail’s allegations, they are just hoping the BBC and the Guardianistas can play the us vs Daily Mail card.

  226. 226
    Keitho says:

    Thanks for the link, but it is quite disturbing in the information it provides. Pederasty is obviously the over riding choice although it is unfashionable, these days, to point that out.

  227. 227
    Anonymous says:

    That will be a fucking first then, a politician telling the truth.

  228. 228
    Anonymous says:

    What a filthy bunch of perverts. A vote for this lot is an insult to all decent people.

  229. 229
    Libertie(s) says:

    I assume the abuse children weren’t back so it was OK?

    Just what are you justifying here? They campaigned for the age of consent to be lowered to 10!!!!!

  230. 230
    Hugh Janus says:

    Was she using her mobile when she crashed this car?

  231. 231
    Libertie(s) says:

    I have pictures of my children at 6 to 10 playing with their friends.

    Sometimes in the sun in the garden they had next to nothing on in the paddling pool

    From today Harriet Harman in her attack on the Mail suggest my photos too are titillating and abusive. They are to a pervert – the titillation lies in the brain of the titillated. Some will be turned on by young children, for some a sheep is very attractive, a few love their cars and some will sit at home and sweat over some big big black cocks, don’t they Harriet

    So the problem isn’t mine. Its yours and NCCLs and the sordid little causes you supported in the 1970s. I am surprised you are not utterly ashamed now, You should be,. You should go

  232. 232
    whippet says:

    That’s PIEtricia Hewitt….

  233. 233
    Ironside says:

    I really wouldn’t be surprised !

  234. 234
    Anonymous says:

    Did they not announce the regionalisation of police forces in England this morning along with the rest of other public bodies as we drip drip into the EUSSR if re elected

  235. 235
    Anonymous says:

    Charles Napier was the treasurer of PIE according to newspaper reports. His half-brother is the prominenet Tory MP, Peter Whittingdale. Did he report his brother when he continued to work at schools in the UK and abroad? When Napier was recently arrested in connection with one of the historical nonce operations (Fernbridge?), he was involved with a school in Dorset where he lives with their mother (all in the press). Whittingdale’s CV shows he was working for Leon Brittan in the 80’s. The minister that the upstanding Tory MP Geoffrey Dickens handed his now famous dossier to. Needles to say, the document disappeared and Dickens was ridiculed by fellow MPs. Labour are not exactly fighting back with their own PIE ammo and the Tories are hardly going on the attack. “we don’t want this to become a gay witch hunt” no doubt…

  236. 236
    Labour elite strike again says:

    One of their kids is being lined up for a safe Labour seat at the next election.

  237. 237
    which is it? says:

    That document is dated 1978.
    Harman has claimed PIE were pushed out of the NCCL in ’76.

    So either she’s lying about the date or she was producing documents
    sympathetic to PIE’s wishes two years after they’d gone…

  238. 238
    Anonymous says:

    Harman says the Mail publishes “titivating” photographs.

  239. 239
    Jesus, pal of mo says:

    Pig Pig Pig squadron commanded by Sdrn Ldr Guy Porker

  240. 240
    Ramrod Straight says:

    1 x 16 year old or 16 x 1 year olds?

  241. 241
    Cinna says:

    Well, they covered up for Savile.

  242. 242
    Cinna says:

    She has more b_a_l_l_s than you.

  243. 243
    Anonymous says:

    why not arm bears

  244. 244
    Mr Geoffrey Dickens says:

    Told you so, your Brittanic Majesty.

  245. 245
    pies n mashers says:

    bill maloney of pie n mash films exposed this lot a long time ago, i suggest everyone watches his interview with chris fey of naypic, its on youtube, it names names, all of them,to the left, right wing parties.

  246. 246
    not me gov says:

    why, because an apology is an admission of guilt…………….. it means she knew, she was a legal officer on the executive…………. http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/harman-and-cover-up-of-child-abuse.html

  247. 247
    Anonymous says:

    She complained about a picture of a kid in swimwear in the Daily Mail but personally tried to water down a child pornography bill to allow nude pictures of under 16s when abuse wasn’t shown.

    She has to own up to her past actions eventually.

  248. 248
    The BBC says:

    Look over there – something shiny!

  249. 249
    Cinna says:

    And assuming his story about warning against letting them affiliate is true, then why didn’t he resign on principal. Oh sorry…we are talking politicians and labour ones at that. They never resign. Ever.

  250. 250
    Equalities Commission says:

    Middle class, middle aged white women are underrepresented on our sex offender registry, wouldn’t you say, Hattie?

  251. 251
    Anonymous says:

    exposing paedophiles is mccarthyism now

    remember that everybody

  252. 252
    Cinna says:

    She’s a liar fullstop. Always was and always will be. Beneath contempt. Tis a pity the BBC don’t have the guts to show this.

  253. 253
    KimJong-un says:

    Ms Harman wishes to criminalise sex between consenting adults if any money changes hands, but apparently did not oppose sex involving 10 year olds.

  254. 254
    Cinna says:

    I have seen this already and it’s pretty much a smoking gun. How come it wasn’t aired on Newsnight?

  255. 255
    Cinna says:

    Well of course she does. That’s the left-wing logic for you. Turn all that’s decent and normal on it’s head. In fact another reason why I believe Cameroon is a leftie.

  256. 256
    GeoffM says:

    Fuck off

  257. 257
    GeoffM says:

    You are the racist – and sexist.

    So fuck off some more.

  258. 258
    GeoffM says:

    You are the racist – and sexist.

    So fuck off some more.

  259. 259
    Mike Oxenfire says:

    Because they (allegedly) tried it on with women, rather than boys..?

  260. 260
    NE Frontiersman says:

    And don’t mention the name of the PIE campaigner who sat on NCCL’s executive, either: http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.co.uk

  261. 261
    Lord and Lady Establishment-Stooge of Brussels says:

    50 LibDems offered to help.

  262. 262
    Rufus Stone says:

    Yeah… Something shiny, like a Jim ‘ll Fix It badge perchance?

  263. 263
    cornwall storms says:

    hattyharpic and labour have stuck their head in the sand . Its all someone elses fault. Its all within the law . We didn’t do it don’t blame us . We’re squeaky clean and didn’t know nothing about it. It was all gone before we joined NCCL, except of course the documents show differently.

    This sounds remarkably like bullyballs’ approach to little local difficulties – tell a lie often enough and they’ll believe you. Except, if hattyharpic is listening , I hope she realises we shall not believe the rubbish they are spewing out.

  264. 264
    cornwall storms says:

    Actually, surprisingly, the guardian carried an article condemning her.

  265. 265
    cornwall storms says:

    You can’t use a defence of ‘why blame me others have done it too’

    hatty harpic tried that yesterday by saying the dailymail publishes pictures of teenagers in bikinis. Maybe they do and maybe that’s not good either but that’s no defence for what she, dromey and hewitt did.

  266. 266
    cornwall storms says:

    No I’m wrong it was the Mirror.

  267. 267
    Mr Ned online says:

    And now it is legal to bugger children of 16 years of age. There are labour MPs that want that age reducing to 14 or lower.

  268. 268
    Mr Ned online says:

    PIE were not just an affiliate, they were represented on the Executive Committee.

  269. 269
    Mr Ned online says:

    For 5 decades

  270. 270
    Graham says:

    Harman, Dromey, Hewitt and Hodge are damaged property. A lot more to be revealed.

  271. 271
    Mr Ned online says:

    That is an act which is also known as buggering children. Labour legalised the buggery of children and now they are protesting that they were caught out supporting Peidophiles?

    Labour have always been a bunch of foul perverts

  272. 272
    Mr Ned online says:

    Gordon Brown

  273. 273
    Mr Ned online says:

    Tory supporter Jim Davidson never went to court. All charges were dropped. Another tory supporter, William Roache, was aquitted.

  274. 274
    Mr Ned online says:

    For all the fake lefty bluster about this being a tory smear campaign, The facts are that this is a story covered by the Daily Mail and th guardian and the Daily Mirror and Newsnight. Yet I have not seen any quotes from any Tory MPs at all.

    It’s a funny sort of tory smear campaign that is
    (A) full of truth.
    (B) carried by left wing press
    (C) Ignored by the parliamentary conservative party.

  275. 275
    Mr Ned online says:

    I really miss Brian Walden. Democracy really is the poorer without him. He was a genius at lulling politicians in and trapping them in their own lies.

  276. 276
    Mr Ned online says:

    A notable exception is Estelle Morris. She resigned from being the Education secretary because she felt that she was “not up to the job”. The only labour MP I had any respect for after that. An honest and honourable resignation.

  277. 277
    Mr Ned online says:

    Twitter account suspended? They are closing ranks now. There is a big story behind this story.

  278. 278
    Mr Ned online says:

    They are not even in his closet. He had documents on his website calling for the age of consent to be lowered to 14, if the sexual act involves an adult, and for the age of consent for sex between children to be from the age of 6, so long as there is no more than 3 years age difference between them.

    To his credit, he has since removed them from his website and publicly rejected such policies. But one is left to wonder if he secretly still supports such policies?

  279. 279
    Mr Ned online says:

    Actually he has been quite vocal and asking the right questions too. He is not supporting Harriet, but wants a much wider inquiry to uncover all paeds in Gov, both labour and tory, from the 1970s through to today.

  280. 280
    MILF fancier says:

    Lefties like Harmskids have been waging a war against traditional values for over four decades hoping that they could destroy the family and replace it with the state. Unfortunately for them, their defence of paedophilia is a step too far for the overwhelming majority of the population and this should prove to be their undoing.

  281. 281
    treetop says:

    It couldnt happen to a nicer group of people ! Vile,devious and thoroughly nasty and thats just the MP’s ! No doubt the rest of Westminster will close ranks and support them,birds of a feather and all that.

  282. 282
    NCCL Multiple Chioce says:

    a/ National Front = Castrate Pedophiles

    b/ NCCL = Invite Pedophiles to join and advocate on their behalf.

  283. 283
    jact says:

    PIE never actually left the NCCL. Their affiliation expired when they ceased to exist.

  284. 284
    BBCCCL says:

    Try to keep up with the project, 65389, ‘worked for’ should read ‘associated’ with.

  285. 285
    BBCCCL says:

    Try to keep up with the project, 65389, ‘worked for’ should read ‘associated’ with.

  286. 286
    Birds of a Feather says:

    Interestingly Hodge’s predecessor as MP for Barnet was Jo Richardson also of the NCCL who was involved with the lobbying for PIE. Hodge presided over a pedophilia scandal in Islington with men preying on boys in the children’s homes.

  287. 287
    BBCCCL says:

    oops, ‘associated with’ should read ‘formerly associated with’

  288. 288
    Peter Touchsmall says:

    Not all appearances on radio are unwanted and can give great joy.

  289. 289
    Peter Touchsmall says:

    Tatchell wrote to the Guardian claiming that children as young as 9 experience ‘great joy’ when having sex with adults. He made lots of other claims too, you should be able to find it on a search engine.

  290. 290
    Peter Touchsmall says:

    Heres The Guardian letter:


  291. 291
    Peter Touchsmall says:

    In 1979 NCCL were advertising for new members in the Pedophile Information Exchange’s ‘MagPIE’ magazine.

  292. 292
    Vladimir Putin says:

    I warned you this would happen.

  293. 293
    Poor Bloody Taxpayer says:

    Labour are also racist against white Brits. ‘The English, as a race, are not worth saving’.

  294. 294
    Poor Bloody Taxpayer says:

    Agree. we need to know what it says,

  295. 295
    Dr Evil says:

    So why were these paedo lovers and paedo apologists ever allowed within spitting distance of the Labour party let alone into parliament? Such vermin in the ranks.

  296. 296
    Anonymous says:

    Peter Tatchell has never advocated adults having sex with children. He does not support this. He says adults should NOT have sex with children. He has never advocated the abolition of ages of consent. He has said that if young people of similar ages have sex below the age of 16 they should not be prosecuted, providing they both consent and there is no coercion, manipulation or exploitation. Treating these young people as criminals is wrong. They need counselling, not prosecution.
    Read here: http://www.petertatchell.net/lgbt_rights/age_of_consent/an-age-of-consent-of-14.htm

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