February 19th, 2014

Kinnock Tries to Justify Privately Educating His Daughter

Red Prince Stephen Kinnock has kicked back Guido’s exclusive revelation that the windbag’s heir sent his daughter to an elite fee paying school in Copenhagen:

“It is highly misleading to say that our daughter attended a private school. It gives the impression that she was going to somewhere like Eton or Harrow…”

His attempt at a get out clause is that the school is part funded by the state as well as from parents fees. Except the Ingrid Espersen Skolen describes itself as “a private school” and has faced criticism in the Danish media for it’s lack of integration with the rest of the community. “Such a ghettoised community is not just a boring society for the individual, it is also a society where social mobility stalls,” said an editorial in Politiken. He can dress it up all he likes, but what it comes down to is that Stephen Kinnock paid for his child’s education. Nothing wrong with that, though it might disappoint his father who campaigned to abolish private schools.

Coincidently Kinnock has rubbed up the locals the wrong way so much in his bid to become the Labour candidate in Aberavon that the left-wing Unite union have backed his rival the Oxford educated Jeremy Miles, despite Miles being a member of the Blairite Progress faction. The struggle continues…


163 Comments

  1. 1
    easy solution says:

    get rid of private schools.

    and no, i am not a socialist or a member of the EUSSR or whatever wibble you guys normally come up with below the line.

    • 9
      Mitch says:

      Interesting that you suggest taking away the only bit that works well.

      Why not instead make state schools just as good (don’t laugh)?

      • 18
        Ah! just says:

        No, make all schools private schools. Voucher system.

        • 23
          Larry SilverStein says:

          Yes, The private school system is clearly the only model which works.

          The Tories really need radical policies like this

          • ahermens says:

            Thats the conclusion I reach surely?

            Private schooling seems to be the one that works. Why don’t we replicate the model across to the State Schools?

            Make both fees/contributions to both State Schools and Private Schools fully tax deductible.

          • M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

            The state school system worked just fine until Shirley Williams was unleashed upon it and abolished grammar schools.

          • Casual Observer 7 says:

            The ‘fees’ for state schools are already paid through taxation.

            Getting shot of the teaching unions, and reducing government interference would help improve things in the state sector.

            However, there is another fundamental problem.

            Private schools recruit the best staff, and are niche. They have an advantage in terms of £ they can spend on staff, a good reputation which attracts quality staff.

            There are simply not enough high calibre teachers available: The state sector will always be employer of the bottom of the pile in this regard.

            Gresham’s law is at work here.

        • 24
          non taxable pikey says:

          As long as you give all schools “Charitable Status.”

          • Bedwetter thinking at its finest says:

            Oh yeah. Because at the moment state schools pay so much VAT and other taxes. In fact with all the VAT and NI and payroll taxes state schools pay they’re actually paying for the entire education sector all by themselves.

            Best to level the playing field eh?

          • KINNOCK'S UNCLE says:

            OF COURSE THEY MUST BE CHARITIES SO LITTLE KINNOCKS, BALLS, MILIBANDS ETC CAN GO THERE AND KEEP THEIR KIDS AWAY FROM US PLEBS!

        • 126
          Kinnockio's Left Nostril says:

          Yes – people who get “free” education, do not value it.

          Concerning Kinnock, what was he on about 1,000 generations for, anyway? If we take a generation as being about 25 years, then 25,000 years ago, there were no universities to go to. Frankly, you’d be lucky if you found someone who showed you how to do a nice carving in a bit of deer antler.

      • 144
        Biffo says:

        Typical two-faced lying politician. One lifestyle for him – another for us ‘serfs’.

    • 10
      Diane Abbott says:

      I can’t see the problem.

    • 14
      Mr Chips says:

      A better solution.

      Elevate the standard of state schools to those of Private aka public schools.

      • 132
        Captain Grimes says:

        We could not afford it old boy! Have you seen the term fees at Eton! Or you can have private schools like the old Rodney in Notts (now closed) that had worse GCSE results than many of the ‘bog standard comps’.

        • 161
          Anon says:

          Good to see the little Tory Councillors re tweeting this. If they had a clue they wouldn’t be Tories or supporting the Bullingdon Boys. Floreat Etona as they say in Bishop’s Stortford Town Council (eh Colin).

    • 15
      Edukashun Edukashion Educachun says:

      We don’t want winners.

    • 19
      Marius says:

      Does he shoot giraffes?

    • 34
      Noah says:

      So many Labour political families are getting their sons into safe seats. The electorate should stop behaving like sheep.

    • 39
      Paddy O'Doyle says:

      Why is he trying to wriggle out of it? Surely telling the truth and saying we are going to give our daughter the best education possible would not go amiss.

      Afterall it never hurt, Diane Abbott or Harriet Dromey.

      • 42
        ahermens says:

        Great comment btw.

      • 50
        M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

        He is trying to wriggle out of it because it will affect his vote count from his potential constituents.

        • 56
          One of his potential constituents says:

          I whent to a none posh skool and it nevr did me ani arm

          • Hedteecha says:

            ‘Done’ not ‘did’.

            You’re Ingglisch teecha nedes a kik up the wotsits fer teechin it orl rong. Go and demand yer moni bak.

      • 135
        inside out says:

        Have you seen the reports of the standards of education being delivered in Wales since devolution.The standards have dropped through the floor.The only way to get a decent education in Wales is to go private.

    • 97
      Koba says:

      Is it possible for someone to renounce their EU citizenship in a meaningful way?

    • 102
      Millipeed says:

      C’mon Guido!!! Blairs being fingered in the hacking trial. What’s going on??

    • 124
      Charlie says:

      The basics skills required are:- maths, physics, chemistry, biology, geography/geology, english, french, german, latin, woodwork, metal work, computer programming, domestic science, art, musics( few instruments), pe, football, rugby, hockey, cricket, athletics and swimming.
      Very high standards can be achieved if the following occur.
      1. Parents encourage learning and bring the children up in a loving , secure and disciplined home.
      2. Teachers encourage excellence and operate in a disciplined environment.
      3. Total teaching hours and time undertaking prep in state schools equals best in private schools.
      4. Reform schools are set up to take children who are violent, stupid or troubled .
      5. Children are streamed in each subject according to ability.
      6. Disruption of lessons is not allowed. 10 minutes of disruption in a 40 minute lesson equates to 2.75 years over a 11 years at school.

      The academic excellence achieved by schools such as Winchester and Manchester Grammar School in the period of the 1920s-1960s were achieved in facilities which would be considered very primitive by most of todays parents and teachers .

      The reality is that the expenditure by most public schools on facilities since the early 80s has not improved academic standards what has changed is that parents encourage their children to learn because they know that ” Who you know ” no longer works. Cameron did go to Eton but he did obtain a First in PPE. The Guardian reported that those at public school take three times as Many A levels in modern languages as those at comprehensive and twice as many a Levels in Maths and Science. Only 60% of comps teach Further Maths a Level without which one cannot read maths, physics and engineering at the top universities./

      Harrow, never the most academic school, in 2013 ,137 pupils took Maths A level 107 obtaining Grade A* or A and only 4 studied Drama and Theatre Studies .

      No wonder why the private sector does so well against the comprehensives.

      • 157
        dame Diane says:

        D- for your ‘inglish’ – but the sentiments get A+

        Fact is, BBC criteria mark you down to a U (Unclassified) because you are not Marxist.

    • 162
      nellie smickers says:

      yes and leave it to parents to educate them

  2. 2
    anonymouse says:

    Why would someone with wife and children in Denmark want to stand as an MP is Wales; can’t he stand the sight of them or is it an overwhelming family ambition to impose himself on the Westminster Parliament?

    • 5
      easy solution says:

      there is this as well.

    • 13
      HenryV says:

      It is the new European aristocracy. Go look at Medieval and Dynastic Europe. These scum don’t see our countries. Wales isn’t a country just a region of Greater Europe just as Denmark is a region of Greater Europe. We are returning to a pre-1648 Europe and the peoples don’t care. Or do they?

    • 20
      Stephen Kinnock says:

      It’s my life long ambition to live further away from my constituency than Tim Yeo.

    • 22
      Nepo Tist says:

      Corruption. It’s the family business.

    • 36
      Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

      Good point, Anonymouse. I suppose it’s just about making sure he gets his seat on the gravy train to Brussels. That’s why he’s had to take his Dad with him – rely on the old loyalties – except they don’t exist anymore.

      Dan Hodges blog worth a read today – I watched the BBC News yesterday, and they were putting every negative spin they could on the news about inflation going down, and they’ve done exactly the same thing today with the unemployment figures.

      Close the bastards down. They’ve gone too far now.

    • 48
      jgm2 says:

      If he does become an MP will he still be laundering his income via Switzerland to avoid local taxes or will he set up a charity to launder his income?

      • 59
        Paniagua says:

        Will he do a Chukka or a Gordon you mean.

        • 89
          ConsLieLaborLebDims Satanic Alliance says:

          Only Little Smelly Peasants Pay Tax its beneath us to comply
          with such trival matters as we are far more important &
          purloin Public Money at every opportunity as designated from
          on High !!

          • i want to know says:

            So when Kinnock gets elected will his children be
            moved to the local Welsh comp?

          • I feel fubarred etc... says:

            For the first time in their miserable lives UNITE are/seem to be doing the right thing by keeping this tawdry parasite out. Good luck to their chosen candidate. Kinnock Minor should stay away from the country; his family have already done more than their fair share of damage.

    • 113
      The Critic says:

      Troughing knows no boundaries,moral or international.

      The fundamental principle of Kinnockism

    • 136
      inside out says:

      Will he have a home in the constituency,and London flat, or will he commute from Denmark?And will the British taxpayer be paying for his magical mystery tour.

    • 158
      NE Frontiersman says:

      Well, he won’t have to GO there: they sent the votes by post these days, remember?

  3. 3
    The Fabian Society, eugenics dept. says:

    Again, we have tried to warn you lot about this…

  4. 4

    Eton ‘n ‘arrow in Copenhagen?

  5. 6
    Alriiiiight says:

    What a bellend. Like his dad and mum.

    • 31
      Mitch says:

      Kinnock Snr’s name badge is asking for some graffiti? Looks like we could only fit four letters on, though..

  6. 7
    HenryV says:

    I watched Borgen and I enjoyed it. Does that make me a Socialist?

  7. 8
    The public says:

    We don’t need any more corruption in Parliament.

    • 117
      Yogurt weaver rebuttal squad says:

      Need to fix that for you – “we can’t actually fit any more corruption in parliament”

  8. 11
    Mornington Crescent says:

    The Kinnocks – and the Bliars, for that matter: a perfect example of how ‘public service’ has become ‘self service’. Never before has a whole family given so little to and taken so much from public life.

  9. 12
    My private school says:

  10. 17
    ex Tory Voter says:

    That is, truly, the most pathetic excuse ever. Good grief.

  11. 21
    Sheffield Rally says:

    Nobody cares about the school. The worry is the Kinnock name, a proven record of failure in the DNA.

  12. 25
    Ah! FFS says:

    Kinnock! Useless! Could not even hold back the tide.

  13. 26
    Baron Windbag of Bedwetting says:

    Hypocrisy; it’s in the genes!

  14. 27
    James Jimmy Riddle says:

    On the Benefits street wind up, two things struck me.

    They all told Owen Jones to leave pensioners’ pensions alone as they had paid into the system all their lives.

    No one objected to paying benefits in food and clothing vouchers rather than real money.

  15. 29
    ahermens says:

    Wow. That is fantastic journalism. Take a bow. Shame we don’t have more journalists like you finding information like this.

    Infact to me it completely highlights the fact that if you love your kids and you can afford it, parents will send their kids to private school.

    Lets ask the simple question. If I could afford it would I move my kid from a classroom of 30+ kids with a stressed out teacher, to a classroom of 18 kids with a senior and well paid teacher? tough choice.

    • 33
      Mitch says:

      Hint: It’s the hypocrisy that we’re discussing.

      • 57
        ahermens says:

        tbh as soon as a politician opens his/her mouth I think they are lying. With politicians its more what level of hypocrisy we are talking about. I guess Kinnock is in the 90s-100%.

    • 43
      M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

      So what would you do if you could afford it?

      And in case you missed it, the whole point of the post was would it conflict with your socialist principles?

      • 63
        ahermens says:

        tbh I don’t think you can use principles and politician in the same sentence. Thats why I wasn’t too worried on the hypocrisy part.

        I’m more worried about Government finances being used for Civil Servant pensions than for Teachers Salaries.

    • 47
      Howework says:

      Research Hypocrisy, and then write not more than one A4 side of why Labour are full of it.

      Please keep all work to yourselves, no sharing, and quote all sources especially if quoting Diane Abbott.

    • 49
      Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

      I thought that was the point of Socialism? Everybody gets the same equally crap education?!

      • 68
        ahermens says:

        HAHAHAHA. Very funny. Maybe that applies onto to the UK. So its ok to send your kid private overseas. One for the lawyers. HAHAHA

        • 86
          Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

          See above.

          • ahermens says:

            I think with Politicians you are talking about different levels of hypocrisy. Yes Kinnock is 100%. But Tony Blair sent his kids to “State Schools” The Oratory and Sacred Heart. But those are not really State Schools at all are they? They are incredibly sought after Catholic Schools which are 7 to 8 times over-subscribed.

    • 55
      Old Timer says:

      18?

      I had classes of no more than 15 when I did A levels.

      But I was one of the last of the grammar school boys, before such schools gave up entirely or started calling themselves ‘independent’ and catering solely to the children of the rich: around the time they began charging too much.

      • 70
        ahermens says:

        Wow. 15. In a State School. You should document that in a Blog so people in the future actually realise it used to be like that.

        If you don’t no one will believe it happened. I scarcely believe it would have happened now.

        Thats the problem now mate. The gap between State Schools and Private Schools is too wide and is getting wider.

        • 82
          Old Timer says:

          It wasn’t really a state school. It was a grammar school which had been founded with a charitable endowment, but they also had boarders, usually paid for by the Army, the RAF or parents who wanted to be rid of their brats during term time. Gradually, though, the fee-payers took the place over. Now, as far as I can tell, the place just churns out self-entitled snobs.

          • ahermens says:

            Thats very sad. From whats left of the grammar schools in London every parent tutors to death their kids to get into them. From the kids I have met who are in London grammars they are actually incredibly grateful for being in the school. Both are girls I have met.

  16. 30
    Tommy Twp says:

    This is nothing new in socialist politics. Never mind those who came from comfortable/moneyed backgrounds and went on to make even more.
    Go back decades an take a look at those who were born with nothing and ended up VERY rich.
    Nye Bevan impoverished childhood, died as a wealthy landowner.
    Jim Callaghan left the navy at the end of World War 2 as a petty officer, died owning a massive farm in the South of England.
    With few exceptions, they’re all in it for what they can get out if it for themselves and their families.

    • 145
      Cinna says:

      Quelle surpise! I’ve never understood why the idiots voting for them don’t realise that. The bennies they get doled out to them are a meagre pittance for the service they do these MPs in bolstering their bank accounts and property portfolios.

  17. 32
    M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

    Something is rotten in the State of Denmark.

  18. 34
    Sarah says:

    Somewhere in England, Barney Unwin completed a length of piano wire………….

  19. 36
    RomaBob.... Beeeeg Issue! says:

    Any relation to this leeching dickhead?

  20. 44
    Dilligaff says:

    ‘it’s’ ‘coincidently’ A little more public school education wouldn’t go amiss, it seems.

    • 118
      JohnInTheSticks says:

      My reaction on reading the story was that if the school taught her the Danish equivalent of the difference between it’s, meaning “it is” and its, meaning “belonging to it”, then our money (and these people are of course totally funded by our money) was well-spent.

      It goes without saying that I remain very grateful to Guido for continuing to harry these filthy hypocritical parasites.

  21. 46
    Panang says:
    • 51
      Mitch says:

      I think the coming collapse of the Euro and civil war in Greece might pip you to that.

      • 69
        Casual Observer 7 says:

        And the thorough butt kicking that is going to be unleashed in U’kraine once the Olympics are over.

        • 74
          Mitch says:

          All of this is what happens when the people are ignored.

          • Casual Observer 7 says:

            Overtly funding the people to challenge a government decision in order to get them into the EU has crossed the line.

            To your point though, Turkey can be added to the list.

            BBC and others are not reporting that the plastic bullets etc. which have been used by the U’kraine government against the EU protesters were sold to the U’kraine by the EU.

            I do not think the Russ!an’s do plastic bullets.

          • I feel fubarred etc... says:

            Cathy Ashtray should butt out and even withdraw the possibility of any sort of relationship with the EU for the next few years (if the EU lasts that long of course!). That is the only way this is going to be resolved without major bloodshed.

  22. 52
    All the world says:

    Told you on the previous tag that he was a tosspot, son of a nobhead, and this tag doesnt make him any better, cos he is a welsh tosspot, son of a welsh nobhead.
    Nothing to be proud of – but at least the union hate him as well.

    • 58
      RomaBob.... Beeeeg Issue! says:

      Don’t hold back, tell us what you really think!

    • 114
      A Kinnock gang member says:

      Listen, I aint going to be sending one of my kids to one of those comprehensive mong factories.

      They’re for you stupid plebs who keep voting for us.

  23. 62
    Cymro oddi ar y llinell says:

    Vote Birgitte Nyborg!!!!!

  24. 64
    Cymro oddi ar y llinell says:

    Kinnock Sr. is wearing the tie of the University of Wales – and that’s gone bust as well.

  25. 65
    Dysfunctional Families R Us says:

    FFS he should not even be running as a Welsh MP working in Westminster when his wife and Child reside in Denmark.

    Social services need to check this out.

    • 75
      Taxpayer says:

      Just wait till you see the expenses claims he’s going to be wacking in if ever he gets into Westminster

    • 79
      C.O.Jones says:

      But he pays his taxes in Switzerland (or did). He is a right one this boy.

      • 151
        Cinna says:

        Just what we need, an expat MP. If this takes off we’ll have the best part of the HoC living in a tax haven abroad. Just think of the traveling expenses then.

  26. 71
    We're alright Jack.. F@ck you lot says:

    We are of course about as Welsh as a bouncing red ball in The Prisoner. Glenys and I have majored in troughing throughout the years but still know the words to the Red Flag.

    More Eu is needed, you peasants. Facking English.

  27. 72
    You can't eat rhetoric says:

    What I never quite understand is just why the Kinnocks want to bag up all that wind in the first place. Are they planning to sell it to someone?

  28. 73
    C.O.Jones says:

    “His attempt at a get out clause is that the school is part funded by the state as well as from parents fees.”

    That is exactly what Margaret Thatcher tried to introduce via a voucher system.
    The left were rabid about at the time, foaming mouth hypocrites.

  29. 76
    Son of Windbag says:
  30. 80
    Fatabbotomous, F@ck you lot says:

    West Indian mothers, culture an all enrichment specialists, we showed you peas and rice didn’t we, we would do anything for our children. The kinochios clearly embraced our culture, we are all nominal socialists, we couldn’t give a flying fuck for you lot really.

  31. 83
  32. 84
    C.O.Jones says:

    Danish PM’s will go to the wall for their children.

  33. 87
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Åh, kære. Første regel af venstreorienterede politik er, at når du befinder dig i et hul, stop med at grave.

  34. 91
    Mod bloody bot says:

    Meanwhile at the Old Bailey, an e-mail discloses that Bliar would act as an unofficial adviser to NoW Becky B.

    And Bliar suggests using the Hutton type smokescreen that he used, as a distraction

  35. 92
    Tony here, F@ck you lot says:

    Blair offered to advise Brooks, Murdoch during phone scandal……Bloomberg.

    But seeing Dave had got there first he looked elsewhere.

  36. 94
    This Guy is Good....At Tax evasion says:

    Mr Kinnock works and pays tax in Switzerland on a reported income of £110,000 as the World Economic Forum’s director of Europe and Central Asia.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/7854836/Lord-Kinnock-son-accused-of-tax-evasion-in-Denmark.html

    • 108
      London riots says:

      I blame the parents

    • 122
      Mousey Tongue says:

      That’s a bit of a Great Leap Forward from being something at the British Council.

      • 131
        Anonymous says:

        When he was with the British Council in Freetown, Sierra Leone, he earned a wholesome reputation as an enthusiastic client of the local whores — mostly war orphans just trying to survive. He has impeccable, caring, socialist principles.

        • 147
          Cinna says:

          Sierra Leone? wasn’t another of Bliar’s armed interventions. Also a place known for dodgy diamonds?

  37. 107
    stench says:

    Swiss-based tax exiles would go to the wall for their children.

  38. 110
    =-= says:
  39. 115
    Dannish Pork PIE says:

    It doesn’t sound Kosher to me.

  40. 128
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    So she didn’t go to Eton or Harrow.

    But how much was paid for her education?

    That is the simple question to which we seek a simple answer.

  41. 129
    Anonymous says:

    Shirley Williams played a large part in ruining the education system with the introduction of comprehensive schools but Margaret Thatcher and Ken Baker took things a step further by allowing the content of the National Curriculum to be hijacked by the academics in the Colleges of Education.

  42. 130
    Graham says:

    All the Kinnock clan are fucking useless, Welsh windbags. Only got their EUSSR jobs through large scale nepotism. Scumbags the lot, but that’s true of all socialists and Liebour supporting Hunts.l

  43. 149
    broderick crawford says:

    “Similarly to Ms diane abbot as a carribbean origin mother

    a welsh origin father will go to the wall for his children .

    anyway now that danish state schools in copenhagen have imoroved beyond a ll recognition from ten years ago I would now gladly have sent my girl to a state run comprehensive penitentiary i mean school ”

    be careful not to produce another sprog Kinno ….. that remark may come back to bite you in the crutch .

  44. 153
    Anonymous says:

    Neil Kinnock is not ethnically Welsh. He is Scottish. The clue is in the name, the freckles, and the red hair.

    Or what is left of it.

  45. 154
    Harriet Harman says:

    Remember, there’s nothing unnatural about having sex with kids. It doesn’t necessarily damage the child and most of them are asking for it, the dirty trollops.

  46. 160
    Karl Marx says:

    …..always the same with the left. ‘Only socialist as long as it doesn’t come knocking at their door’ !!!!!


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