February 13th, 2014

Another LibDem Sex Scandal?

Found on the door of a loo in parliament today…


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      lojolondon says:

      Well, if it is a LimpDim case, then the victim is sure to be someone ‘vulnerable’ – very young / very old / very unwell / very drunk.

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      Carry Hole is a porcine homunculus says:

      On the ladies loo?

    • 71
      Jeremiah says:

      You are a naughty little boy Fawkes when are you going to get the writ?

    • 150
      The Intern says:

      I’ve done it GF, I’ve done what you told me to do, I produced the sign and printed it off and stuck it to the door of the ladies’ toilet, just like you said. We seem to be getting a lot of traffic already, what a brilliant idea, you really are a political genius just like you told me you were when you generously offered me this voluntary position.

      Just one thing sir, the printer had run out of ink and so I had to go to WH Smiths and buy a new cartridge because we haven’t got any supplies in your office, I don’t mean to hassle you but I’ve kept the receipt so could you give me the money for it today please. It will need to be cash otherwise I will have to walk to work…. again.

      Not that I’m ungrateful, I really do appreciate you giving me this free market opportunity to prove myself on a three month trial basis, but I really do need that money back or I won’t be able to afford the bus or buy any lunch tomorrow.

      Anyway, never mind my selfish needs, I’m just happy to living the dream, working for nothing in exchange for the occassional nugget of wisdom, like this toilet thing, you were right GF, the readers are completely ignoring the fact that Dave is up to his neck in it and the fecal matter is actually starting to seep into his mouth and nasal cavity and he’s looking like a complete waste of space, but just like you said if we bang on about the Lib Dems enough then we will be able to divert attention from your paymaster.

      Brilliant plan GF, absolutely bloody brilliant.

      Is there any chance whatseover of you giving me back the money for the printer cartridge? I haven’t eaten in four days.

  2. 2
    DSK says:

    Well I never.

    I had no idea.

    I am in a state of shock.

  3. 3

    Reblogged this on wheelsofpoliticalsteel and commented:
    Mega Lols!

    • 9
      Parasite says:

      So fuck!

      • 24
        Jimmy says:

        Thanks for letting us know that. I don’t think I would have slept tonight wondering.

        • 31

          Sleep walking.

          It is what Labour do.

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          Reader says:

          Guido, have you ever thought of having a slot for ‘worst comment of the day’?

          When even Jimmy thinks a comment is ridculous, it really has to be the pits.

          • Carry Hole is a porcine homunculus says:


            I made 60 dollars an hour on the internet! Just by starting my own business and working hard for years! Then the government nicked most of it.

          • Mars Attacks! says:

            Only so long as it’s not a LieBore comment, though – nothing is so deranged from them, that young James wouldn’t support it – he’s like a battered wife who keeps thinking the awfulness will stop one day.

            Stand by your man!!

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  4. 4
    Mike Hancock CBE MP says:

    I’ve laid a cable in a loo before now.

  5. 5
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    As we learn of this story I feel certain the Police will be sailing around London looking for Mr Cable.

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    Baz says:

    Isn’t that an old one that’s been posted before?

  7. 7

    It’s the only Office he’s fit to run……………..Nick won’t even let him near the Gents!

  8. 8
    Vince Cable says:

    I don’t recall changing my nappy

  9. 10
    Stuart Photocopier says:

    I used to live in Hull and remember the floods that devastated the city and surroundings of East Yorkshire in 2007. I don’t remember a great relief effort and a open cheque book to help us. All we got was misery, financial ruin and depression but we bounced back without their help. But it could have been a lot worse if the tories were in power at the time. Now that the tory heartland is flooding the bullingdon club ride in to the rescue of those who put these corrupt inept pigs in power. Unfortunately Somerset and its surroundings seems to be forgotten for the Eton mess. Ukip are going to make killing on the back of this catastrophe

    • 14
      cornwall storms says:

      Hmmm dredging of the Somerset Levels was stopped 1998/2000. Which government was in power then?

    • 16
      Gordon MacBreath says:

      I flew over those floods in a helicopter and was hailed as a genius.
      Check the press reports. Everyone was so impressed I decided to call an election.

      But then changed my mind and pretended I had no intention of going to the polls.
      That was 2007.

      After that it all went very wrong very quickly.
      I saved the world though.

    • 17
      The rest of the country says:

      Hull imposed great misery on the rest of us by electing a fat lump of shit called John Prescott.

    • 18
      Ed Moribund says:

      UKIP are total amateurs.
      They don’t know one end of a fraudulent postal vote from the other.

      • 42
        Don't give a shit about UKRAP, the Limp Dumbs or LieBore says:

        Or one tax efficient “educational trust” from a denial?

    • 29
      jgm2 says:

      Tories. Bullingdon Club. Eton.

      Bingo. Well done.

      Your reward for getting all three in is another double-shift at Labour HQ as a ‘volunteer’ tomorrow. Bring your own packed lunch.

      • 44
        Stuart Photocopier says:

        Thanks. its only my first week but I’m doing quite well, I think. They said I could be the new Alistair Campbell.

        But then again they said there would be a full lunch but its just a bag of Doritos and an Actimel.

    • 69
      Ding, dong says:

      Sad innit, we have camorons Conservative MPs working to help their constituents and up in Hull you only had all those Liebour MPs with Liebour running the government and a Hull MP who was deputy prime minister and all you got was misery and financial ruin and depression, does that tell you something is wrong or are you just a wally with tribal views.

    • 75
      Biffo says:

      Currently Christchurch Council are making a killing by charging for protection – see Bournemouth Echo – http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/dorsetweather/news/11007552.Christchurch_residents_forced_to_buy_own_sandbags_to_protect_homes____30_for_pack_of_four/

      ‘ And yesterday, while PM David Cameron promised that “money is no object” when it comes to helping flood victims, Conifer Close residents told the Daily Echo they have had to buy their own sandbags and plastic sheeting.

      They have also asked for help from their MP Chris Chope, but say he has not accepted their invitations to visit them.

      Steve Richards, whose dad Ken has been living with him since Christmas, said they requested sandbags from Christchurch council last week but were told they would have to purchase them at £30 for a pack of four.

    • 137
      FFS says:

      Eh? You are saying that Hull didn’t get a penny out of Labour during the floods there but it would have been worse if the Tories had been in power? How could it have been worse?

      Then you have a go at the Tories for looking after their own. But it was OK for Labour not to look after their own?

      You are a tit aren’t you?

  10. 11
    Nick Clegg says:

    I agree with Ed now

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    8illy Kebab says:


    • 83
      Jeremiah says:

      First what 8illy? How high is the Thames at Westminster, the Thames is wider there than in Surrey but it will get there.

  12. 14
    EU Funded Pro-EU Troll says:

    Vote UKIP

    • 34

      Don’t just vote UKIP – become a member & join the local Committee. See what you can do to change British politics……………….

      • 36
        Tony Blair says:

        Give Labour a permanent majority, even without their Jock majority?

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          Don't give a shit about UKRAP, the Limp Dumbs or LieBore says:

          Do you have a shady, xenophobic past? Are you a misogynistic , fatheaded, braying ass in public? Would you like to use these characteristics to feather your own, offshore, nest, without having the slightest understanding of politics?

          Then join UKIP today! UKIP – Making the UK great again – as in “Great – the UK has made me richer beyond my actual abilities!”

          This was a party political broadcast favouring the Labour party. Now pay your taxes, proles.

          • Kipper says:

            Tory trolls are just not funny anymore.

          • Don't give a shit about UKRAP, the Limp Dumbs or LieBore says:

            Kipper – so well named: Two faced, no guts – just like UKRAP.

          • Dave the Bummer says:

            You must enjoy a bit of uphill gardening,thankyou for your trolling effort.

          • Don't give a shit about UKRAP, the Limp Dumbs or LieBore says:

            I have, but unlike you and your ilk, only with ladies. Still, you know your preferences.

            There – fixed it for you!

          • Nige Farage and his magic garage - a song, a dance, go on guv..... give us a chance! says:

            I like a bit of offshore trusting, me!!

            Toodle pip, up, up and away!!

            My old man’s a banker,
            He took a bankers’ bung!

            And so did I.

          • David Cameron, spanking a big hairy monkey says:

            Erm, Nigel was a metals broker, not a banker.

          • Mars Attacks! says:

            Let’s call the whole thing off!

  13. 20
    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    But Dromeys allowed.

  14. 26
    Tasmanian Devil says:

    Thank goodness those poor bankers at Lloyds are getting a nice bonus, I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night otherwise

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      I Saved the Banks! says:

      More recently, it has been suggested that the sale, and its seemingly inept management, was a deliberate attempt to drive down the gold price in order to rescue several banks which had highly leveraged short positions in gold

    • 58
      Pliny the Welder says:

      And that nice Gordmong Broon-Stuff made a very similar amount from his “Charriddee”.. sorry that should have read, run up “expenses” to a very similar amount.

      • 91
        Blowing Whistles says:

        You again eh … well have you changed your tune / taken off your blinkers yet? Smear me at your peril.

        • 122
          Pliny the Welder says:

          BW – you are a crepulant little fart, addicted to the sound of your own voice – do one, there’s a good little, whatever you are. You do not need smearing, as you think that you are the only voice of reason who can see corruption at every turn. You are wrong, but that IS your default setting.

          Plain enough for you.

          • Blowing Whistles says:

            i have replied to another of your pathetic comments below – btw thanks for acknowledging of our previous encounters – your mantras are well and truly over cooked like your brain that has been in the oven for far too long.

          • Pliny the Welder says:

            Have you tried anything for that BW? Like an education?

    • 312
      George from Galloway says:

      What about those Barclays bankers who made a loss and got an increase in bonus? We’re told this was good for shareholders, ffs!

  15. 30
    Gordon says:

    i went to the zoo and saw the linos and the pingus and the hipos but the ladies were all loked in there cages where I couldnt see them

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    Nick Clegg says:

    Just in case this IS another sex scandal I’d like to say very early on,

    “We made a pledge not to ignore any further sexual misconduct allegations. We did not stick to it, and for that I am sorry.”

  17. 38
    Chris Rennard says:

    I demand an independent Lord-led inquiry

  18. 39
    Gordon Brown's shed says:

    Tonight … I are mostly playing online roleplaying with my GOREDOOM the WIZARD Class.

  19. 45
    Derron Brown is a disgusting pervert says:

    Not funny! Sick of these perverts!

  20. 47
    Peter Ellis says:

    Wicked !

  21. 48
    Objective Productions protects a criminal pervert. says:


  22. 50
    Christopher Hitchens says:

    I’m dead. End of story.

  23. 53
    Nasty piece of work. says:

    What is happening to Mike Handicapcock? Relaunching himself as Gay?

  24. 55
    Gordon Brown says:

    I just had a dump. It was the right thing to poo.

  25. 56
    Ethel Photocopier says:

    I am a teacher. When my students pass their exams, it means I did my job properly and that I have reached my targets. I don’t get any bonus. Why?

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      1+1 is2, 2+2 is 4, 3+3 is err 7 says:

      Because you are doing a job you get paid to do and are doing it for the rich enjoyment of see the young grow up and get a bankers job and bonus’s and put two fingers up to you.

    • 78

      Read the first sentence again – now discuss how you turned a loss making bank around and made £415m, while marking some papers that you have the answers too already.

      Do TRY and keep up at the back, and remember you are paid, by the state/public purse to do an important job, but not paid by a private employer to make money, all the time, or you FIRED.

      Pension? Fund your own, in the private sector. Very different pressures and consequences, plus you actually have to leave school at some point AFTER 4 years old and BEFORE you retire.

      1/10 – detention.

      • 93
        Jeremiah says:

        Cupid old chap all those lovely traders will be losing those lovely high paid jobs to super computers, just like everyone else, then you can go to work in a call center or one of those scam merchants.

        • 96
          Big Farmer says:

          And who, exactly, is programming these super computers?

          • Everyone will get their P45 in due course says:

            Super super computers.

          • Pliny the Welder says:

            If you read the facts behind the crash, it WAS the computer controlled trading that triggered it… Go figure?

          • Blowing Whistles says:

            PtW – if you knew (or dared to contemplate it) as to who had embedded their worms / trojan programmes into the worlds computers long before the crash … then some truths might hit you directly between you fucking closed eyes.

          • Pliny the Welder says:

            As before BW, your ARE just a legend in your own brain, BTW, your attempt to claim that everything is a conspiracy undermines your argument.

            Less drugs.

            And do try and get out more.

          • non taxable pikey says:

            People who notice that “or you FIRED” isn’t correct and will crash the program running the algorithm they have designed.

        • 133
          T May says:

          Yankee go home

    • 148
      FFS says:

      Oh, so now you WANT to be performance measured?

      Well that’s a fucking first…..

  26. 57
    Vince Cable says:

    I don’t remember ladies.

  27. 59
    Pykey says:

    Soon get that stripped.

  28. 61
    Cobra says:

    I see I met again today.

  29. 63
    Anonymous says:

    Did Pickles shit on the floor?.

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    sunderland is a labour ghetto thats why its shot says:

    The delusional UKIP are predicting 2nd place in Wythenshawe as if it were some monumental achievement.The result tonight will prove the following,Labour are untouchable in large Metroplis shitholes like Manchester,Newcastle etc.The Tories will be lucky to get 15 per cent given events of the last week,The LibDems are totally fucker forever.So the message is this to all those contemplating voting UKIP from a line thru Stoke and Lincoln southwards if you vote UKIP you will allow a Labour government with a majority of 50.You can then say goodnight Vienna to GB.I am 67 pensioned up to weather the storm no mortgage and no kids but I care about this country and Labour dont or most of the fuckers who vote for them.

    • 80
      Mystic Meg says:

      Don’t worry, it’ll be a LibLab Coalition in 2015

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      Casual Observer 6 says:

      So was the apparently delusional Lord A’shcroft last week.

      Second place for UKIP, and Third place for the Conservatives may be enough to finally wake the Conservatives up, and could speed the demise of the hapless Cameron.

    • 154
      FFS says:

      I don’t care. I work for a US company selling their shit in Europe. So I will continue to have gainful employment no matter what the fuck my compatriots do.

      I was listening to two middle class businessmen on the Eurostar last night bragging about how great Tony Blair was and how Thatcher was evil.

      That is why Britain is fucked, because the British people are fuckwits. There are some gems amongst the dross, but it is mostly dross.

      Here’s another example. Told a Dutchman about our flooding woes. “Why don’t you build dykes around each town like in the Netherlands?”. I don’t know. I just don’t know. Actually I do. It’s because we are British. We take all kinds of shit and then just moan about it. We’ve been taking this crap for hundreds of years. We don’t deserve anything better. We are crap. Live with it.

      Yet another example. Heathrow airport. It’s fucking chaos on a good day. It’s like the first day it ever opened. They never seem to get truly organised. Why? Because it’s run by Brits that make Mr Bean look sensible. Anybody would think there’s a war on.

      Fantastic country, wonderful scenery, great coastline, some outstanding individuals but your average Brit is a wank-stain and I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire. They WILL vote Labour, and they WILL pay the price. Good.

      • 171
        Auntie Duggan says:

        In my place 70 per cent of social housing tenants are on housing benefit paying a third of the market rate,add on the tens of thousands being spoon fed via tax credits and numerous other benefits we elect 3 Labour MPs who barring commiting some heinous crime will be here for life.Ambition,self respect hard work,respect,education,mobility are words not in the lexicon here,like you I dont give fuck.Years ago I remember watching a film called Im Alright Jack by the Boulting Bros well its arrived here in reality,I dont give a shit anymore.

      • 249
        Scotch Tony says:

        I want to keep the poond so i can have a shit at Glasgow train station

      • 401
        Happily retired expat with not a care in the world says:

        When you are ready for retirement FFS will the Yanks give you the necessary visa to go and live somewhere nice in the States away from all the shit you describe ? Might be worth your while looking into – as a fall back.

        Take it from me, if you do it right, emigration really is a fucking good idea mate! Just make sure your financial assets go with you.

  31. 77
    Ed Miliband says:

    I might have a hamburger for dinner.

    Delete unless there’s something more concrete I can say.

  32. 79
    Someone in the Torygraph says:

    There is a disturbing tendency in the UK nowadays to be constantly hoping for a Messiah to turn up. In 2006 it was Cameron, in 2010 it was Clegg, and now in 2014 it’s Nigel Farage. This is a worrying development: we are turning into a nation of Believers unwilling to smell shit masquerading as putty

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    testing times indeed.

    • 86
      Blowing Whistles says:

      i’m back and will be continuing the EU Lisbon Treaty / consent / mandate / cover up.

      to start with – of the blind ‘silence’ of the so called intelligentsia of the msm – they did not inform the public whatsoever of the trickery of how our consent was taken for granted.

      • 103
        Not Blowing Whistles says:

        In large part the MSM are not intelligentsia. That is one of the myths used to bestow credibility on the propaganda outlets.

        Most are just regular folk doing a job: Nothing more nothing less.

        As the UK media is now completely government regulated all reporters should be regarded as civil servants. They serve the interests of the state.

        There are some exceptions, a few committed loons and idealists, but the MSM is wholly a rigged game.

        For vaguely objective opinion, editorial and actual reporting of fact one needs to turn to the blogosphere. But still exercise caution.

        A good question for you to ask yourself, with respect, is why bother asking the rhetorical question you do.

        To offer an answer, it is clear that the MSM are either unaware, unwilling or unable to report accurately. On the matter of the EU, they are most likely unable to as they are subjected to both political coercion and economic corruption.

        • 188
          Blowing Whistles says:

          They the MSM are the two cheeks [Left and right] of the bums who couldn’t give a damn / flying fuck either way as to the Public Interest as long as they ‘appear’ to be keeping the status quo of the percieved [deception] difference between the three ‘controlled parties’.

          Uk politics IS the biggest fucking joke going – it is the circus of fools – and behind the scenes – the real stringpullers are the biggest laughing stock going.

          They as an example have adopted the goebb.les mantra – of propagating a lie and repeating it time and again – in their misbegotten belief that the masses will buy into it – Climate change!

          i have for some years decline to make this analogy – but hey now is the time – Climate change < A big fucking hoax

          The grossly inflated numbers (and decades of fearmongering) from an event of WW2

          have some of that Pliny and the SC of old.

          e.g. Johann Hari – his comparison in the published indy – not mine. Subsequently blown to pieces like the plagerist piece of scum bum 5hit that he and D aaronowitch are.

          Huh and if i can put the links and the B/S together … don't for one minute think that others have not.

          • Not Blowing Whistles says:

            I do not disagree with you.

            Goebbels was a civil servant. A very good, but imperfect, propagandist.

            The principals of propaganda are very clear, and well understood. Re-check my point about credibility building, combine with your point about repeating the same message across the propagandists check list.

            Make the point also that for propaganda to work and be absorbed by the target population, that population must not suspect that it is anything other than fair reporting.

            As there is no free press anymore, recognize that all MSM reporters in the UK are de-facto civil servants : They cannot even freely focus on the exclusive interests of the proprietors any more.

            Raising awareness of this is good, but it really does need to be spelled out for what it is.

            The UK media now is wholesale an adjunct of the state, propagating state propaganda.

            Any perception of good / bad reporting, honest or false etc. in the UK MSM is totally misguided. Such perceptions are crafted in order to confuse the public into believing a message from one source or another.

            All UK MSM reporting now is government crafted to meet the needs of the state. Moreover, it is projecting propaganda more on behalf of the EU than of the UK.

          • Blowing Whistles says:

            NBW – i might add – that the wholesale suborning of the msm is totally down to the trickery of the legals in their forming up of the medyaaa laws – the hack brigades lack backbone to stand up to legals who are barefacedly lying about what is the truth and the law.

            The corruption of power lies in those who ‘hold themselves out’ [promoted by their underlings in the msm] to be the so called last defence against the mob – the wiggs types are the mob.

          • John Bellingham says:

            Before the NSDAP came to power Goebbels was a Journalist and unsuccessful writer. His university education was based on literary criticism. He only became a civil servant when the party came to power.
            Astonishingly the closest profile to Josef Goebbels is our own Alistair Campbell. Their careers have uncanny parallels–the interest in pornography, media manipulation and promoting illegal wars. While Goebbels preferred amphetamines to alcohol, his indulgence was a contributing factor in his decision to commit suicide, something that with Campbell we can only hope for.

  34. 87
    Keep up the good work! says:

    Finally, mùslims in the UK are doing something worthwhile! They’re flying over to Syria and blowing themselves up, thereby helping to reduce the benefit claimant count and mùslim population. Thank you, dead terrorists. I encourage all mùslims in the UK to follow their example and go to Syria to kill themselves.

  35. 88
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’ll be writing to the PCC about Guido’s outrageous comments today besmirching my honesty and reputation!

  36. 94
    Auntie Duggan says:

    Allah Akbar.

  37. 95
    Long John Silver's parrot says:



  38. 97
    An awkward bastard says:

    When he was caught parking a car we pay for on a double yellow line and got a ticket did he pay the ticket himself or leave it for us to pay?

  39. 100
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    It makes much more sense for an independent Scotland to go into currency union with Norway. Similar small population,similar climate,similar genetic stock and both economies dominated by oil & gas.

    Free yourselves from the idiots at Westminster & Brussels in one fell swoop.

    Go for it Scotland :-)

    • 104
      The British media are cunts says:

      Yes, Scotland should join with Iceland, they are doing well. Oh hang on they didn’t have the English to bail out their failed banks.

      Scotland can never be taken seriously when it’s GDP is swamped by the size of its banks.

    • 109
      Please, Jockland, vote for independence. If we could vote for you, we would. says:

      “both economies dominated by oil”

      Except Jockland’s oil is running out.

    • 110
      Casual Observer 6 says:

      That could work, but the state of Scotland’s banking sector, and the share of UK debt which they are liable for would probably put the Norwegian’s off.

      • 114
        There is no state pension fund. Ooops. says:

        Plus, Norway would become liable for Scottish pensioners’ pensions.

        Good luck with that one, Scotland.

        • 144
          The Heroes of Telemarketing says:

          Thank you but no.
          You see we had a choice in the 1970s wether to put our oil money into a soverign wealth fund or paying ourselves Bennies.
          We decided not to splash out on unfounded pensions and life on the dole and are now the happiest nation on earth according to most polls. We also reckoned it wasn’t worth joining the money sucking EU.

          Here is a direct example of how two countries, identical in many respects , have evolved through different political outlooks.

          Or if you prefer
          We are the prosperous, industrious, North America
          Are the siesta sleeping, communist flirting, South America.

          So … Good luck with that and thanks again for the offer but FU!

          Lads largerson.
          Happy mayor of Spoösekvik

    • 234
      Exit Strategy says:

      It would make even greater sense for Ireland to leave the EU, and join Norway and Scotland, as described.

      • 255
        have you seen the size of White Dees Knockers says:

        It makes more sense for the Scotch to go into a currency union with James Turner Street

  40. 106
    tax dodger says:

    london’s dry – weather crisis over

  41. 107
    A reporter from the Daily Planet says:

    I never thought he was up to the job myself.

    Remember when that paper sent those young women around to his surgery as a plant.

    A couple of smiles and he was telling them things best not said.

    A strange choice for a Cabinet bedfellow.

  42. 115
    Jimmy says:

    George Clooney has hit back at HIGNFY star Boris Johnson for suggesting London should not return the Elgin Marbles to Greece.
    The Darfur Human Rights activist was angered by the BBC funnyman calling for the 2,500-year-old sculptures to be kept in London while publicising his new tv series, Isn’t History a Hoot?, which tells how ideas stolen from professional historians were dumbed down for television.
    The Not On Our Watch Project strategist said: “Someone urgently needs to restore Boris Johnson’s marbles. Here he is plugging a tv series about classical history without realising that same history has been looted.
    He should stuff the politics and stick to satirical panel shows.”

    • 121
      Allah hates jihadis says:

      Can you even identify Greece on a map of the world, Jimmy?

      (hint: it’s the bankr*pt bit that lied its way into the €uro. No, not France..)

    • 125
      Casual Observer 6 says:

      Clooney’s latest film is utter shit.

      Keep eye on the ball, not the marble.

    • 139
      Number Crunching says:

      Marbles: 2,500 years old
      Greece: 190 years old

    • 149

      The good Lord Elgin, unlike Stumpy, paid £39,000 for the marbles in 1816. The receipts exist. Why don’t they challenge the UK in the European Court?

      Even without resorting to that, we could have made some money with that (providing a Labour government did not get its hands on it.)

      The least they could do is offer our money back with interest. That would not be too unreasonable, would it?

      At a reasonable IRR, I calculate that to be in the region of £6tn. How about that for a deal Mr Samaras? Oh! BTW, we want that in Sterling (cleared), not in Euros.

      Put it on the table…

      • 157
        Jimmy says:

        I passed it on. They want to know if we’ll take drachmas.

      • 161
        CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

        The Greeks ,who are descending into the third world ,should have greater concerns than a load of bronze age rubble .

        • 180
          I've learnt some history but am I understanding it correctly? says:

          I don’t think we should give them back to them. They are clearly safer where they are.

          Egypt – had a huge empire, now fucked

          Turkey – had a huge empire, now fucked

          Greece – had a huge empire – quite fucked actually, getting worse

          Italy – had a huge empire – quite fucked actually, getting worse

          Great Britain – had a huge empire………………

        • 183
          jgm2 says:

          Greece, the cradle of Western civilisation, should probably worry about getting tap water that’s safe to dr*i*nk into its capital city before worrying about some rocks that would have dissolved in the pollution years ago if they weren’t safely tucked up in the British Museum.

          Just saying.

    • 158
      Hey Jimbo says:

      I know Labour are embarrassed about that whole Iraq illegal war dodgy dossier lies illegal rendition torture thing, but try and answer my question anyway: How many illegal wars has this government had in which a million died? Come on now, Jimmy, you won’t win votes without answering questions by the electorate.

      • 187
        jgm2 says:

        Brown did. He got 28% of the votes in 2010 without answering a single question.

        • 197
          UKIP or bust says:

          He did answer questions, the BBC put him under the grill, well they interviewed him, well they had a chat with him, Well they . . . OK your right.

      • 195
        Jimmy's little helper says:

        Err that would be nuuunnn..

      • 269
        Táxpáyér says:

        On a point of order…

        Parliament voted FOR the war. Therefore it is legal.

        • 404
          Pliny the Welder says:

          But the evidence that prompted the yes vote was all lies, and Bliar, Broon et al knew that.
          ERGO – illegal, by misleading Parliament.

  43. 118
    Windi fuk wrong says:

    Mi Toni, he nice ass, big downstairs, horny boy. Not old man with shrinkie dick. Slottygobby not good she angry woman for me just sayin.

  44. 130
    Mince Cable says:

    Who wrote ladies?

    • 132
      The Green Party says:

      Hellishly sexist.

      • 316
        non taxable pikey says:

        Sign seen on an engineering workshop door somewhere in the Offshore industry. “You are now entering a non politically correct environment, if you don’t like it. Fuck Off.”

        There are many of us who just don’t buy into politically correct fascism and agree wholeheartedly with the above sign.

  45. 135
    JH23945802439823-04 says:

    It’s all going brilliantly in the Socialist Eden of Venezuela.

    Has Miliband expressed his brotherhood with Maduro yet?

  46. 136
    Crouching Tiger, Hidden Toilet Cam says:

    Me love Tony long time.

    • 140
      Windi fuk Rong says:

      Year of the Horse namely after mi Toni, big I biggie. I call him at a time Toni Stallion.

  47. 142
    Windi fuk Rong says:

    I say George call me and mr clown eye no do but Gideoney did do. Me no like.

  48. 146
    Is this justice or irony? says:

    How dare someone do unto a politician what she would have others do unto everyone except herself.


    • 184
      Anonymous says:

      Was it something she dead

    • 239
      Anonymous says:

      First bankers topping themselves, now ww have an ‘euthanasia’ minister brown bread. Oh dear.

      Not starting to look too bright for some of the NWO parasites.

  49. 147
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    The reality of socialism:

    • 164
      Divide and rule says:

      Abbott agrees with heads being divided and left to bleed.

      • 174
        Anonymous says:

        Seeing that i think we can determine that zebra crossing lollipop man must be fucking useless at his job.

        • 390
          Scum says:

          It’s the same thing that the IRA colleagues of their companion in that Venezuelan photo they posed for did to people.

    • 182
      BBC says:

      But what about global climate weather warming rain and our expenses?

    • 220
      jgm2 says:

      Under Chavez and his successor that is an everyday occurrence in Caracas. Violent crime is out of control across South America. And Mexico. Which, politically if not geographically, is South America.

      They’re fucking savages.

      • 253
        brown-dog says:

        Savages aided and abetted by the CIA.

      • 257
        The Heroes of Telemarketing says:

        South America . Basket case economies. Socialist/communist. Unemployment. Barely enough food to prevent starvation.

        North America. Richest nation on earth.

        Scotland. Basket case economy . Socialist/ communist. Unemployment but enough bennies for an obesity crisis.

        Norway. Richest nation in Europe.

        See any threads Owen? Any themes about one party lefty dictatorships?
        Even the Arabs in Tehran, sitting on worlds oil reserved are hungry. There isn’t ever enough money for socialism.

        • 369
          Owen's Remedial Economics teacher says:

          If USA is the richest nation on earth, then you must mean in total, not percapita. In which case Germany would be the richest nation in Europe.
          Or has the euro collapsed again?

    • 254
      T May says:

      Yankee go home

  50. 151
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    Owen in Venezuela, perhaps helping to plot the killing which is happening now ?

    • 155
      Teapot says:

      Nothing like a bit of collaborating with a regime of killers, eh Owen?

    • 156
      CHAVS WIN! says:

      Labour landslide in 2015.

    • 167
      Thank God Abbot's only shadow Health secretary and nothing to do with education says:

      “finally relax after a hard days election observing”


      Apostrofees r difikult 4 soshulists.

    • 168
      Anonymous says:

      She is so up herself the silly cow. Hard days election observing FFS. What qualifications does that twat. jones have to actually do something like this or is being a rabid lefty Oik all that’s required.

    • 169
      Blue Peter Goldfish says:

      Hope he brought his owen supply of toilet paper with him, the super absorbent pink fluffy kind.

    • 207
      White rabbit says:

      Blessed are the horny-handed sons of toil who slave away are observing.

  51. 153
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    Some more close up reality of socialism: When students complain about lack of opportunity upon graduation, this is how a socialist regime responds:

    When one understands the dynamics of shortage, and that socialism fundamentally does not recognize the rights of the individual, but regards its population as a disposable collective unit this becomes understandable.

    However, that does not make it right.

    This is what lies behind the mask of Ed Miliband, D’iane A’bbot, Owen J’ones and the others of the dominant non-libertarian left in the UK.

    • 163
      Eric Hogsperm says:

      What is the death of millions of people living pointless lives under the yoke of capitalism to those of us that believe in the inevitable utopia that Marxism must lead to!

      It is only a matter of time and yet again Marxism will prove its worth! Destroy all opposition my brothers and sisters in the name of Marxist progress! The end ALWAYS justifies every means!

      • 189
        phew says:

        The problem with socialism is that eventually they will analyse shit to see what you have eaten

    • 166
      Every socialist without exception says:

      You have to understand. We don’t like criticism. And we like killing our critics.

    • 274
      Táxpáyér says:

      MArxism is a verb that describes creating a shortage.

  52. 159
    i don't need no doctor says:

    C4 News – Our mission tonight is to slag off the tories. Paul Mason and Guru-Murthy will stand in flood water to prove it is the tories fault. Paul lefty Mason will categorically state that the extreme weather is due to man made climate change, although he offered no proof whatsoever.
    C4 News, the biased news channel.

    • 160
      i don't need no doctor says:

      I must not question C4 News.

      • 176
        All Lefties should be shot in front of their families. Or, better still, in front of me. says:

        I never watch C4. Let alone their news.

        • 219
          Blowing Whistles says:

          You should its a bleedin larf and Snowy is just a dying old lefty zombie who probably frequents the Chelsea Arts Club – where many a tosser and pa3do probaly hang out.

  53. 162
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    It’s the small details that count, such as this piece of essential equipment which is issued to the protectors of socialist state in Venezuela:

    One should step back for a moment and consider the mindset that the state deemed fit to place in uniform, which is willing to use such equipment against their fellow citizens.

  54. 165
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    This is the filth which supports and enables such oppression:

    • 170
      Alastair Campbell (Miliband's chosen advisor) says:

      Ed Miliband hired me as an advisor.

      Crazy, really; not only did my shameless lies start an illegal war that killed 500,000 civilians, but I used to write p0rnography that demeaned women.

      So I’m a natural choice for Ed “Pro Women” Miliband.

      But then Labour’s deputy leader once campaigned for the legalisation of páedophilia, so what are my crimes, eh?

    • 172
      UKIP or bust says:

      Is it the greezy pole your itching to climb on?

      • 179
        Anonymous says:

        Every time I see that pic on his twitter account it reminds me of someone being startled suddenly by a loud bang and then looking round to see where the snipers shot came from.

    • 371
      Owen's Remedial Sex-Education teacher (fired) says:

      I suppose such matters are important to teenagers, but really, don’t worry about it, Owen. Besides, if it’s going up the wrong un, smaller might be more preferable.

  55. 181
    i don't need no doctor says:

    No matter how hard C4 News tries to get flood victims to slag off Cameron they fail. Guru-Murthy, Mason and Crick are losers. Keep trying lads, you never know you might justify your £200,000 salaries, which incidentally is £40,000 more than Cameron gets.
    What has C4 News done to help the flood victims – well they stirred the shit and then left.

    • 205
      Blowing Whistles says:

      can anyone do a word cloud / number crunch of the repetition of the words ‘climate change’ that they do each and every night – along with the rest of the pathetic MSM?

      Their goebbe.ls promotion of if you repeate it enough times – is old ‘Dead Tree Press’ baloney …

      but don’t anyone tell them – ‘cos i’m havin a right old larf at em.

      • 238
        Mr Word Cloud says:

        Yes, the “word cloud” for Channel 4 news gave the following top five word answers as follows…


  56. 185
    John Bercow says:

    I’ve got a 2 inch cable.

  57. 198
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    This image captures what that the UK working class need to understand about socialism:

    And for that matter, what a future within the EU holds in store.

    • 204
      What Maggie actually should have said says:

      The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s bodies.

      • 212
        Politics 101 says:

        The problem with socialism is that it is evil.

        • 218
          National Socialist says:

          I assume you are referring to international socialism…as that is truly satanic.

          • Politics 101 says:

            Don’t waste your time by being too interested in the adjectives. None of them change the fundamentally evil nature of the noun or absolve any of the followers of this cult.

          • Mr Word Cloud says:

            How’s the weather been in Tel Aviv today Shlomo?

            You are the only ones the national socialists have ever upset.

          • Ed Miliband's One Nation Socialism says:

            The pie keys got a bit upset by them, for some reason.

        • 232
          Blowing Whistles says:

          It has always been controlled / funded by the barbarians aka the rothies.

    • 227
      T May says:

      Yankee, go home.

    • 243
      Jimmy says:

      It’s all a matter of definitions I suppose. When I was growing up, squandering windfall oil revenues rather than investing them was called Thatcherism.

      • 246
        Anonymous says:


        you can even say that after the waste of the years of terror 1997-2010

      • 250
        Labour's supporters are worthless retarded subhuman filth says:

        Like Gordon Brown ‘invested’ the money he made selling the nation’s gold for SFA (after forewarning the market of what he was going to do, just to drive prices even lower)?

        Or raiding personal pensions to the tune of ten billion p/a, destroying the world’s best pension industry?

        Or, well, just wrecking our nation’s finances? He inherited a goldmine, he left behind a shit-heap.

        It’s no wonder Labour isn’t trusted with the nation’s finances, is it retard?

      • 259
        jgm2 says:

        They were invested. They were invested in encouraging British miners to find a job they actually enjoyed doing.

      • 261
        JH23945802439823-04 says:

        Yeah, because Gordon ‘invested’ lots of money, didn’t he.

        AKA ‘pissed it up the wall’.

        Socialism adds to its death toll, relentlessly. Yet you carry on.

  58. 199
    White rabbit says:

    Just a thought but has Gordon Brown had a career change and become a weather forecaster.

  59. 206

    Frоm thе BBC (nоt bіg blаck cоck thіs tіmе):

    Brеаkіng thе sіlеncе оn mаlе rаpе

    І wаs fuckеd by Gоrdоn Brоwn. Wаs аnyоnе еlsе а vіctіm?

    • 217
      Alistair Darling says:

      Did you have shares in Northern Rock?

    • 226
      Blowing Whistles says:

      The MOS did not leave much to the imagination in an article some years ago as to the fuckers being joined at the HIP – Thats Brown and Blair … i bet mandy’s got the pics though!

      • 248
        Mr Word Cloud says:

        Re Mandelson…

        “The Mail on Sunday can reveal that Mandelson’s family has links with powerful Russians stretching back at least two centuries, and he may even be related to the fabulously wealthy Rothschilds themselves.”

        “Their eldest son, Levy, great-grandfather of Peter, would eventually move back to Britain, while another son, Joseph, John Mandelson’s grandfather, stayed in Australia.
        John Mandelson says: ‘With that the two branches of the family lost contact. It was only during the Second World War that Norman Mandelson, Levy’s son and the grandfather of Peter, made contact with my father and the two branches were reunited.”


  60. 214
    Madame Pipi says:

    Up until reading this blog I had thought today’s big story was the flooding.

    Now I know I was completely wrong.

  61. 216
    Emily Thornberry says:

    Thirty years ago, I had a traumatic encounter with BLT. I was really gagging for it and just went straight up to the counter and demanded they give it to me. But what I thought would be a pleasant, innocent experience left me shattered. I’ve had to receive counselling but I still have nightmares about that night when I put it in my mouth and immediately felt sick. It didn’t have enough bacon and mayo. Just because I was hungry and desperate didn’t mean they had the right to give me a below par sandwich. I’ve never been able to look at BLT again.

  62. 221
    bubble says:

    If you cover up one sex scandal then you have to cover them all up – hence why EU institutions in Brussels are full of very well-paid [censored] ex-politicians from all over the EU who were sent away to be out of sight. In this respect the EU is a bit like Craggy Island for pols.

  63. 222
    Blowing Whistles says:

    The Box 217 reply was to Box 174 – Ref C4 snowy is just a zombie. Plenty of old deluded hacks hang out at the CAC.

  64. 223
  65. 229
    Schadenfreude says:

    Millionaires’ Row in Wargrave,Berkshire, flooded. Includes someone who will like it not a lot.

  66. 231
    Blowing Whistles says:

    My MP needs to tread very wearily in the next week or so – he just might get arrested or served with a writ – bumbandit that he is. [yes a clue - as if i need to give any ... further clues - to those who have been attentive] Huh!

  67. 233
    Blowing Whistles says:

    i removed [my] consent to be oppressed by the EU / Lisbon Treaty one month before the false parchment was ‘said’ to come into effect.

  68. 234
    Wet of Somerset says:

    Why is Homer Simpson running the Environment Agency. Doh

    Smith and Homer. Separated at birth

  69. 237
    Calgarian says:

    Don’t be silly Lib Dem scandals have nothing to do with Ladies. Except if you’re Lord Retard.

    You lot on here need to get used to something. If the opinion polls are half right you’re getting the two Eds next year and you’ll be taking so much Sh*t you’ll think you’re a mushroom nursery. They’re gonna do to you what that black guy did to Sally Bercow.

  70. 242
    Anon. says:
  71. 244
    Common Purpose says:

    Wythenshawe. 138.9% of postal votes were cast for the Labour Party.

  72. 251
    • 270
      Liebour enemies of the people says:

      Seems their bBBC local news has already said that a UKIP activist has already said the it’s Liebour by a big margin, they are only waiting to see who comes second, you takes your pick and you gets your choice, the braindead at work.

      • 271
        jgm2 says:

        Labour might have overdone it. I wouldn’t be surprised if they won it on postal votes alone.

        • 273
          Casual Observer 6 says:

          Turnout rumored very low ~ 20%

          Will be interesting to see if the postal votes have been over egged.

          • jgm2 says:

            Seriously? 20%? UKIP will be fuming if they couldn’t make a better showing on a turnout of only 20%. Talk about Labour complacency/voter apathy.

            Labour won’t be able to point the finger at those police commissioner elections any more if they can only get a 20% turnout for a by-election.

          • Táxpáyér says:

            it’s rigged not egged.

          • May not even get to 20% says:

            Deborah Linton reports that turnout may be very low in this election…

            “V v early rumours that turnout may not reach 20pc,” she tweets

          • Casual Observer 6 says:

            This could be a serious omelette;

            Word is, Lib Dems are looking at a lost deposit… ;-)

          • jgm2 says:

            Less than 20% turnout? Fucking hell. I guess Labour will hold on but, with what, maybe 10% or 12% of the eligible electorate?


            What a missed opportunity for UKIP. A well co-ordinated team could have swept in there and stolen that from right under Labour’s nose.

      • 280
        Fuck em says:

        I just don’t get people voting labour? The places neve improve and they destroyed the country

    • 310
      Jimmy says:

      If you’re this cranky tonight what are you people going to be like next year?

      • 313
        jgm2 says:

        How’s that 4% poll lead working out for y’all?

      • 320
        Casandra says:

        If the electoral system continues to degrade and styme the articulation of the will of the people, you might want to take your question and ponder it with great care. I fear, serious, violent political strife.

  73. 260
    The Heroes of Telemarketing says:

    Hello Scotland.
    Would you like to have a Krona union?

    Yes? Good. I’ll let The Faroe Islands know.


    • 287
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      No thanks, after independence the Scots will form a currency union with Norway using the Krone, a currency backed by billions upon billions of tonnes of oil and trillions of cubic feet of gas.

      Scotland has far more in common with Norway than England.

      A small population,similar climate,similar genetic stock and an economy dominated by oil & gas.

      You benefit scroungers down South will have to start producing something of value that you can export, otherwise you’re fucked :-)

      • 303
        Podiceps says:

        Scotland also has important dissimilarities with Norway. The Norwegians are tough, cheerful and industrious. The Scots may have been like that a century ago, but now they are feeble, miserable and idle. Why would the Norwegians want to associate with a collapsed nation?

        • 311
          Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

          Yes they have caught the English disease since being in the union. But once they gain their freedom they will quickly regain their confidence.

          Go for it brave Scots :-)

      • 304
        Oslo says:

        In your dreams

  74. 263
    i don't need no doctor says:

    Sneak preview of C4 News for Friday 14.02.2014
    Man made climate change.
    Cameron did not act quickly enough when the extreme floods hit.
    Tories to blame for floods.
    Guru-Murthy manages to find one person that blames Cameron.
    Paul Mason reports on man made climate change but provides no evidence.
    Jon Snow says no one from the government or EA available to appear.Of course appearing on C4 News should be a prority because C4 News was elected by the voters.
    Yes, same old, same old C4 News.

    • 264
      i don't need no doctor says:

      Strange how Guido can critisise Brown live on the DP Show, but I cannot critisise C4 on this site. One rule for Guido…….

  75. 266
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    George C.Looney is the Hugh Grant of America :-)

  76. 272
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    Another reasonable live blog for Wythenshaw:


    Narrative from Manchester seems to be framed: Labour are expected to win but the real interest is in what UKIP do with the middle ground. The interest is wrt Euro elections.

    Language is tending towards UKIP’s appeal to disaffected voters, which is of course prejudging and playing to the protest vote stereotype.

    There are rumors of a very low turnout ~ 20% – unconfirmed at present as counting has only just started.

  77. 275
    Anonymous says:

    Unbelievable QT
    Bryant claiming they reacted quicker to floods in 2007


    Another labour cheer fest again tonight

  78. 279
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Venezuela is a nasty reminder, if any were needed, of Britain if Labour ever return to power.

    Be afraid, be very afraid!

  79. 282
    Anonymous says:

    The J’ewish prof lord Winston’s moustache is about 10 shades darker than his hair and tonight he is promulgating the global warming lie in QT.

    But is was his kind in Madison ave that invented advertising and propaganda in the first place

  80. 286
    Anonymous says:

    The J’ew Dimblebore just had to mention the floods, gays and UKIP link which was an ad hominem in the first instance.

    • 362
      John Bellingham says:

      But on “This Week” Andrew Neil reminded everyone that a Gay man was in charge of the Environment Agency, so maybe that Henley Councilor was on to something.

  81. 287
    Newt Gate says:


  82. 289
    Sale out says:

    Deborah Linton has tweeted this about the expected result: “Labour sources indicate they’re expecting 45-50pc of vote and UkIP around 25pc”

  83. 291
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    In Wythenshaw – 10,000 postal votes from 17,000 sent out were returned.

    That is about 60% returned – a very high rate.

  84. 293
    Guido Fawkes says:

    Christine O’Done is a fucking prat.

  85. 302
    Anonymous says:

    Chris Bryant is half scotch, half english, half pants.

  86. 306
    Smoking Newt says:

    Listening to the radio, whilst driving, is a hazard.

  87. 307
    Prof. Deity Winston says:

    Smoking in cars can set your children alight and cause them to die of smoking.

  88. 308
    Displaced Brummie says:

    That bloody sign is illegal. Where’s the HSE when you need them?

  89. 314

    I cannot listen to all this incessant badmouthing.

    Mr Salmond should be afforded the basic dignity of the right to die.

  90. 315
    Swiss Watch says:

    Everything in Switzerland runs on time, to the second, whatever nature throws at her.

  91. 318
    Parasite says:

    Grayling, what a twat.

  92. 323
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    Electoral history could be made tonight in Wythenshaw if the Lib Dems lost to the Monster Raving Loony Party.

  93. 328
    Hunter Wellies says:

    Haven’t we done well!

  94. 331
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    Conservatives have GAINED Kingstanding Ward (Birmingham) from Labour.

    h/t: @ColumnistElects

  95. 333
    Anon. says:
    • 334
      Anon. says:

      7k missing, erm.

    • 336
      A statistician says:

      Well taking simple statistics, they shouldn’t be different at all. Any other result would indicate a significant fraud.

      • 339
        Casual Observer 6 says:

        One way around that would be to have a very large disparity in population sizes, in this case, small actual ballot turnout and massive postal vote returns.

        Labour are playing a very tactical game.

        • 342
          A statistician says:

          A statistically significant no. is >30 ish.

          As long as both samples (populations) are greater than this the results should still be the same if representative. Ashcroft is right to know this result. One, the actaul vote is quite well policed. The postal vote is open to huge fraud.

          Labour are playing a very tactical game = Labour (and their Asian vote) are playing a very dirty game

          • Casual Observer 6 says:

            Agreed. There has just been a heated discussion about the issue of postal votes on Sky News between UKIP and Labour.

            This has been a very dirty election – Labour List are apparently talking up the turnout – they are trying to claim 30-40% at the moment, pointing out that 14% was the turnout on the postal votes before the ballot opened today.

            Less biased estimates are placing turnout at 28% – will know for sure shortly.

          • Casual Observer 6 says:

            Turnout in Wythenshaw confirmed at 28.2%.

            h/t @ColumnistElects

          • Di Rear says:

            Over 42% postal votes. What a farce !

  96. 337
  97. 343

    Oh dear


  98. 351
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    Wythenshaw turnout figures confirmed:

    Will be interesting to see if there are any significant differences in the vote.

    Less than 14% actually showing up to cast their ballot in person is not very good at all.

  99. 353
    Di Rear says:

    Of the 24,024 votes cast at the Wythenshawe by election, over 42% (10141) were postal votes. Something seriously wrong here. Democracy my arse

  100. 356
    Anonymous says:

    Any thoughts on comment #344

    Can anyone see the seal on the centre bag?

  101. 357

    Cheer up righties. Looks like Spoonface may have come second.

    • 358
      Casual Observer 6 says:

      That would conflict with the early reports that UKIP are close to winning based on votes cast today, yet the postal votes are all Labour.

      Let’s hold the cheers until the full counts are in, with the breakdown postal vs. ballots cast.

      • 360

        Yes, but as those early reports occurred only in your head, that may not be terribly significant.

        • 363
          Casual Observer 6 says:

          The reports are off the net, http://www.columnist.org.uk and twitter.

          Not that early either – early in the sense of within the past 10 mins, and before the actual results published.

          A bit like the Labour List figures which were juiced up a bit tonight.

          • “The reports are off the net,”

            Oh why didn’t you say?

            Must be true then

          • Casual Observer 6 says:

            About as accurate as your average Guardian / Labour List effort, but without the awkward retraction after it’s gone to print.

            Figures will be out soon, so all will be revealed.

            Farage has already stated that Labour have won.

            Obviously the 28.2% turnout is not entirely convincing of the quality of mandate that Mike Kane will be taking to Westminster, but that is a separate matter.

          • The press slavishly repeated Farage’s claim to have won the in person vote at Eastleigh without checking to see he’d made it up. He has form for this.

          • Casual Observer 6 says:

            That is why checking the figures over carefully is important.

            The strange reports could well have sourced from UKIP.

            The Postal Voting this time round is a bit fishy – nearly 60% of the ballots sent out returned, making up nearly 1/2 of the total vote cast on the day.

            Given the time lag – postal votes sent in first week and return posted at least a week before polling day, combined with the snap call smells a bit.

            Definitely is not a good sign for the democratic process.

          • The postal vote certainly does give an advantage to parties who are organised (very often it’s the tories who do best). You can’t just suddenly pitch tent two weeks before a contest and expect to gain traction. They’re inexperienced. People are polite on the doorstep so they think it means they like you rather than they want you to go away. They have no organisation and I wouldn’t be surprised if in ten years they didn’t exist. They only get traction because spoonface is scared shitless of them. The Labour List figures were never described as anything more than guesses.

          • Casual Observer 6 says:

            The Labour List figures were being pumped out tonight in order to management expectations on what they knew in advance to be a retained seat. All figures from that source taken with a pinch of salt anyway.

            The problem with the postal vote system is systemic – it is the system which is at fault.

            Tonight’s result is a good example of that.

            The video posted above shows quite clearly that people in this ward are down to earth folk who don’t pull the pretense you allude to.

            The real issue, and this is to your point, is that the current postal vote system appears to be anti-democratic as it gives entrenched parties an unfair advantage. That reinforces the rotten borough phenomena, and if a party has figured out how to game the system then there is clearly a more fundamental problem.

            Of course, the other issue with the postal vote system is it does open a successful party perhaps unfairly to accusations of electoral fraud as the system does not appear to be compatible with the spirit of what most consider a free and fair electoral process.

          • Postal votes favour parties which are well organised, whether entrenched or not. It requires you to garner support before the campaign. Without postal votes we would have been looking at a 15% turnout. That is the problem. If you have evidence of fraud, report it.

    • 391
      Genghiz the kahn says:

      Labour wins Wythenshawe and Sale East byelection on reduced turnout
      The Guardian ‎- 5 minutes ago
      A total of 10,141 postal votes were cast and only 13,883 on the day. … the inter-war council estate of Wythenshawe,

  102. 361
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    LOL: From Wythenshaw…

    ‘Lib Dems are apparently just below 5%…So the news is, they’ve requested a recount in an attempt to save their deposit.’

    h/t http://www.columnist.org.uk

  103. 365
    Beware says:

    Caroline Flint without his makeup.

  104. 370

    Farage concedes with characteristic good grace

  105. 378
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    Wythenshaw results:

    Lab : 55.5% 
    UKIP: 17.9% 
    Con : 14.5% 
    LD  :  4.9% 
    Grn :  3.1% 
    B'NP:  2.9% 

    Labour hold.

    Good result for UKIP – considering they got 3.45% in Wythenshaw in 2010.

    Lib Dems – this is the 8th time they’ve lost their deposit in a byelection since 2010GE, and significantly down from the 22.3% they got back then.

    • 380

      Basically the LibDems (which in seats like this is essentially people who hate the council but would never vote tory) switched to the Lemons.

      • 382
        Casual Observer 6 says:

        I would argue that LD and Con voters may have broadly given this one a miss, given the low voter turnout.

        You average Lib Dem voter is very unlikely to have switched to UKIP.

        Old Labour, and real Conservatives perhaps have done.

        Without wishing to detract from Labours win, the real winner tonight was clearly apathy, with 71.8% of the vote. ;-)

  106. 381

    “What Manchester does today, the world does tomorrow”


    • 383
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      We had an empire then Jimmy and the Labour party didn’t exist.

  107. 385
    Di Rear says:

    How pathetic, those comics the ‘Mail Online’ and the ‘Torygraph’ don’t want to tell their readership about the Wythenshawe by election result. Never in history have two rags been so out of touch with their readers.

  108. 386
    Gordon McRuin - Let the change begin. says:

    The abuse I receive on this blog is horrendous.

  109. 388
    Genghiz the kahn says:


  110. 393
    Scum says:

    Postal voting is a scam.

  111. 394
    jgm2 says:

    As predicted BBC report by-election result as Labour ‘win’. Not Labour ‘hold’.

    It’s the little things that give them away.

  112. 395
    Green Greeny says:

    I am surprised that there is so little electoral support for the party of global warming taxes despite all the free publicity suppled by the BBC and the Met office.

  113. 397

    In the next election it may be time to call in the UN election monitors , postal voting is a communist fraud .

  114. 398
    The Dame of Notre Dame says:

    Has anyone been arrested or interviewed either under caution or not ?

    When there is an interesting story of public concern the press are nowhere to be seen.

  115. 400
    Quote of the day says:

    Lucy Powell(local councillor): “‘we work all year round; u can’t just fly in+have a pint’.

    Farage: ‘I’ve been on benders that lasted longer than this campaign

  116. 402

    Now wash your hands.

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A confused Nick Griffin says Nigel Farage is a shill for the City, forgetting that City banks want to stay in the EU:

“Farage is a snake oil salesman, but a very good one. His supposed anti-immigration stance is all smoke and mirrors, as is his carefully cultivated image as a ‘man of the people’. The truth is that UKIP is a pro-immigration party that exists to lobby for the interests of the City of London.”

Alexrod says:

It’s money innit.

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