February 7th, 2014

Labour MP Refuses to Apologise for Holocaust Slur

LabourList demanded that Labour MP Yasmin Qureshi apologise for comparing Israel-Palestine to the Holocaust this afternoon, but she ain’t doing so. A Labour spokesman said:

“These remarks were taken completely out of context. Yasmin Qureshi was not equating events in Gaza with the Holocaust. As an MP who has visited Auschwitz and has campaigned all her life against racism and anti-Semitism she would not do so.”

As you can see, it very much is in context. The context being the surrounding sentences:

“What has struck me in all this is that the state of Israel was founded because of what happened to the millions and millions of Jews who suffered genocide. Their properties, homes and land – everything – were taken away, and they were deprived of rights. Of course, many millions perished.

It is quite strange that some of the people who are running the state of Israel seem to be quite complacent and happy to allow the same to happen in Gaza.”

Oh dear.


146 Comments

  1. 1
    derp says:

    She’s right though. Except the murder bit. Well OK, just the land bit.

    • 8
      ancientpopeye says:

      Just another lying socialist out of touch with reality.

      • 32
        Morgan's Organ says:

        Don’t approve of what she said but I disapprove more that we continually have to aplogise all the time for having opinions that dont tally with vocal minorities.

        • 69
          Guido the Arsebandit says:

          Oy vey, the Holyhoax must go on!

          • Dave of Scottish, English and Welsh blood, but mysteriously not Khazarian says:

            Remember the 6,000,000*!

            *Auschwitz revised down from 4,000,000 to 1,500,000 in the 1990s but the 6m remains holy!

          • FFS says:

            You do realise that 2million were shot in Poland before the camps ever came into being?

      • 118
        john in cheshire says:

        Yasmin Qureshi – sound like a muslim name. So, a muslim slagging off Israel, how unusual.

      • 139
        Whippersnapper2 says:

        Yes but yet another loonie Muslim “out of touch with reality.”

    • 28
      Go home Dear says:

      Born in Gujrat, P@kistan and moved to Britain when she was nine.

      So, not British then. has no loyalty to Britain and her heart lies 3,000 miles away. Why is she allowed to be a British MP anyway?

  2. 2
    James says:

    Madam, permit me to school you in equational reasoning for a moment…

  3. 3
    Anonymous says:

    She is a stupid bitch.

  4. 4
    Jimmy says:

    If this isn’t nipped in the bud soon Tory MPs will be wearing IDF uniforms at stag parties.

  5. 5
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    So if you express a view which goes against popular opinion you have to apologize for it now ?

    • 7
      Jimmy says:

      No, it’s just that when it comes to Israel these days righties tend to overcompensate.

      • 74
        FFS says:

        Can I refer to black people as “jungle bunnies” now? Because you seem to be very keen on freedom of expression all of a sudden? You weren’t last week. But then I notice your grip on morality and ethics is something of a moveable feast.

    • 10
      Blackbeard's Son says:

      No Dear Boy, the loony left never have to apologize, resign or take responsibility for anything.

    • 15
      Don't Call Me Dave says:

      No, you don’t have to apologize for going against popular opinion, but you do have to apologize when you talk complete and utter bollocks, as this cupid stunt did.

  6. 6
    Ah! but says:

    She was reading from her handkerchief.

  7. 9
    Dan says:

    How do these neo-fascist nutters get into the country – let alone become MPs?

  8. 12
    Anonymous says:
    • 134
      FTFOfff says:

      WTF are Israel Firsters doing setting up an “EU Parliament? They can’t even run their own colony properly!

      • 143
        Whippersnapper2 says:

        You have that entirely wrong mate…… they run their colonies very well indeed.
        No terrorism in Israel to speak of it’s worse in Slough.

  9. 13
    Daniel says:

    How do these neo-fascist nutters get into the country in the first place, let alone become MPs?

  10. 14
    Dævid Ward MP says:

    Go Sister

    PS – Vote for me.

  11. 16
    Labour's special conference says:

    Go on you know you want to.

    http://www.labour.org.uk/specialconference

  12. 17
    Anonymous says:
    • 124
      seriously? says:

      You-fucking-what?

    • 125
      Yeah, right.... says:

      Oh well, in that case guilty as charged. If it offends the gospel according to the EU then we should hang her now an be done with it.

      Look, we all know that Israel has has done some pretty unpleasant things to Palestinians including razing homes and destroying land based livelihoods.

      Yes, she’s a tiresome harpy burt she is allowed her opinion. Guido’s crying ‘offence’ has a touch of the Dianne Abbott about it.

    • 133
      ,,, says:

      WTF is it to you anyway?

  13. 18
    Sweeney, The says:

    I feel that it’s time to stop dragging up the past. The evil has been done, let’s move on.

    • 73
      Village Idiot says:

      …We must never forget the years of terror,1997-2010,or tony blair,or Gordon brown,…we must never,ever,ever,never,ever forget!

  14. 19
    Is THAT it? says:
  15. 22
    Arik says:

    When was Gaza Palestinian, oh no that’s right it was Egyptian before they lost it. Fucking nuke all the bastards.

  16. 25
    All socialists are scum says:

    She’s not even British

  17. 29
    P l e b says:

    I can see absolutely nothing wrong with what she has said.

    Isn’t Isr@el still in violation of UN resolutions re settlements?

  18. 30
    Dirt says:

    The sooner Israel and Egyot cooperate to rid ‘gaza’ of Hamas, for good, the better for everyone.

  19. 34
    David Cameron says:

    All these whinging people living on the Somerset Levels. Haven’t they got insurance? After all, that’s the Tory way.
    We’re all for small government now, so if they want the ditches dredging, they’d better pay for it themselves.

    Pip pip!

    • 82
      Flooding the market says:

      I would think that there future insurance premiums will be astronomical even if they can get cover(certainly NOT for flooding)

      Although you make a slightly pertinent point. Anybody that bought a recently built house(within the last 5 years) should have had as a matter of course a flood survey carried out(if they had a half decent solicitor)and although in some instances a negative report would result in any mortgage offer being withdrawn and no insurance cover unless there was shown to be adequate flood barriers and no recent flooding etc they would have saved themselves a lot of hardship and expenditure. Nobody is going to buy a house there now until there is adequate protection in place so it could be that the government will have to step in as they have in the past.

      We can expect more and more of this especially if the government and local councils is allowing builders/developers to build on traditional flood plains

      • 126
        seriously? says:

        Wasn’t it the great environmentalist, John Prescott, with his army of 2,000 civil servants to make him feel important, who decided to build 100,000 extra homes on the Thames flood-plain?

        I sure hope that Chinese university is getting its money’s worth out of the useless c*u*n*t.

  20. 35
    Reckless Tracey says:

    Wouldn’t expect anything else from one of them. Prosecute her. Oh no, of course she’s one of them so can do and say what she likes

  21. 36
    Russell Brandt says:

    ” What a gas”

  22. 41
    Blowing Donkey Whistles says:

    oops wrongblog

    EU policy: deliberately flooding the Somerset Levels

    Dr Richard North explains the EU angle to the Flooding story. Strange that no one else seems over inclined to point this out.

    No surprise that the pro EU Westminster troika forget to mention it. Nor is it any surprise that the media fails to point this out.
    EU policy: deliberately flooding the Somerset Levels
    Monday 3 February 2014

    It is all very well for Chris Smith, Chairman of the Environment Agency, to prattle on about “difficult choices”, and to tell us that “more must be done to protect the Somerset Levels”. But in the flooding crisis over which he is presiding, there is one which Smith’s Agency, at the behest of the EU, deliberately allowed to happen.

    Allowing the flooding is a matter EU policy, introduced by a 2007 Directive and consciously adopted by the Environment Agency in 2008, which then sought to increase the frequency of flooding on the Somerset Levels.

    What then makes it impossible for the people on the spot, like Owen Paterson, is that they are having to deal with decisions made years ago. Only now are the consequences of those decisions becoming evident, while the people (or agencies) who contributed to this disaster are entirely invisible.

    In the “invisible” class is that classic elephant in the room, the European Union, which was behind the last great change in British strategy, heralded by a Defra consultation document in July 2004 called “making space for water”, introducing “a new Government strategy for flood and coastal erosion risk management in England”.

    The clue as to its provenance came on page 23, under the heading “European Dimension”, which told us that flood risk management was being discussed at the EU level, and the themes under discussion were “all consistent with this consultation and the current approach in England”.

    The outline of the EU approach had in fact been published in a COM final, (2004)472, the very same month as the Defra document, signalling the “European” interest and warning of further activity to come.

    At the time, Charles Clover, writing in the Telegraph was very far from being impressed. He complained that, while Defra calls it “Making Space for Water”, others called it “flooding”. And, in those few words, the future government policy was revealed. Flood defence was to give way to “management”.

    Government consultation continued into 2005, making it very clear that a “new strategic direction” was involved, one which involved changing the emphasis from flood protection to allowing certain areas to flood.

    For Somerset, this had already been spelled out in an EU-funded conference in Warsaw in 2003. Flood defence for farm land, along with high levels of subsidies, was for many years an important element of Britain’s production-orientated agricultural policy, wrote the authors. Many floodplain areas benefited from publicly-funded flood defence and land drainage schemes which reduced crop damage and facilitated a change to more intensive farming systems.

    Recently, however, they continued, policy emphasis has been placed on environmental enhancement, on greater diversity of economic activity as a basis for sustainable rural livelihoods, and on public enjoyment of the countryside. Funds previously committed to support farm output are increasingly diverted to encourage land managers to deliver environmental benefits.

    In this context, we were told, there is reduced justification for high standards of flood defence for agriculture. Indeed, there may be substantial benefits if some floodplain land is returned to its previous unprotected, un-drained condition.

    Therein lay the death knell for the Somerset Levels, as a new term was to dominate policy: “Washland”. This was an area of the floodplain that was to be allowed to flood or was deliberately flooded by a watercourse for flood management purposes.

    Unacknowledged by either government, the media or even Chris Smith in his current diatribe, this policy was given legislative force, not by the Westminster parliament but by an EU directive 2007/60/EC of 23 October 2007 on the assessment and management of flood risks.

    There, in recital 14, we saw spelled out the requirement that flood risk management plans should focus on prevention, protection and preparedness. But, “with a view to giving rivers more space, they should consider where possible the maintenance and/or restoration of floodplains, as well as measures to prevent and reduce damage to human health, the environment, cultural heritage and economic activity”.

    There, writ large, was Defra’s “making space for water” policy and all that was needed for an already Green-dominated Environment Agency to abandon the Somerset Levels.

    The shift in policy can be seen with brutal clarity on the Coimmission website which gives priority to the “environment”, citing a raft of EU measures, including the Water Framework Directive, the Habitats Directive, the Environmental Impact Assessment and the Strategic Environmental Assessment Directive. The Floods Directive, we are sternly warned, has to be implemented by 2015.

    Just so that there should be no doubts as to where the policy thrust law, DG Environment in 2011 issued a note, stressing that flood risk management “should work with nature, rather than against it”, building up the “green infrastructure” and thus offering a “triple-win” which included restoration (i.e., flooding) of the floodplain.

    By then, the Environment Agency needed no encouragement. In its March 2008 plan it had decided that, “providing a robust economic case for maintenance works on the Somerset Levels and Moors remains a challenge” (p.131).

    We believe, the Agency said, that “it is appropriate to look again at the benefits derived from our work, particularly focussing more on the infrastructure and the environmental benefits, which previous studies have probably [been] underestimated”.

    We have, they said, “international obligations to maintain and enhance the habitats and species in the Somerset Levels and Moors, and it is within this context that all decisions have to be made”.

    And, with that, they were “doubtful that all the pumping stations on the Somerset Levels and Moors are required for flood risk management purposes. Many pumping stations are relatively old and in some cases difficult to maintain. It is necessary to decide which ones are necessary particularly in the context of redistributing water”.

    Of six policy options, the Agency thus adopted the sixth, to: “Take action to increase the frequency of flooding to deliver benefits locally or elsewhere, which may constitute an overall flood risk reduction”. This policy option, they said, “involves a strategic increase in flooding in allocated areas” (p.141). The Levels were to be allowed to flood, as a matter of deliberate policy.

    Thus, when the BBC reported that the government had been “slow to act”, it could not have been more wrong. It had been there years before, planning to make the disaster that has overtaken the people of that part of Somerset a routine occurrence, not so much man-made as made by government.

    By the time Owen Peterson arrived to try to deal with the situation, he was years too late. Between the EU, the previous Labour government and the Environment Agency, the damage had already been done

    • 57
      Editor of Newsnight says:

      Please forward me a copy.

      • 65
        Blowing Donkey Whistles says:

        newsnight are shitty Israeli firsters.

        • 135
          BBC Disinfotainment says:

          I think you’re shitting me. So Beeb star reporters and Newnight stalwarts like Jeremy ‘Al’ Bowen, the Hamas and Hezbollah sycophant Orla Guerin, the ‘I am one of you’ muslim defence correspondent Frank Gardner (I question the sanity of any westerner who would convert to the RoP) and Barbara ‘ all weepy for dead terrorist Arafat’ Plett, are such ‘Israeli Firsters’. Oh, don’t forget the Beeb Gaza correspondent with the unforgettable name of ‘Jihad’.

    • 68
      BarryW says:

      Part of this policy was to stop spending money on dredging the rivers that drain the Somerset Levels. This has reduced the capacity of the rivers to move the water to the sea between high tides. Thus the water builds up and the floods get worse as more rain falls.
      Proper river management would not stop the flooding but it does make it more containable.

      • 75
        Blowing Donkey Whistles says:

        tptb are fucking desperate to not admit that Global Warming is all one big HOAX.

    • 83
      We are the losers says:

      Interesting because Smith put up 4 reasons to help, number one was people, number two was property, third? and the 4th one was agricultural land.

    • 95
      Not Blowing Whistles says:

      There is a major part of that which goes to the insurance / re-insurance market as well.

      Floor Re…

  23. 43
    Anonymous says:

    Yasmin Qureshi is same nutter who was saying there’s nothing wrong with Khat. She’s deleted her supportive Khat tweets

  24. 46
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Apparently she was born in 1963. Not wearing well. Perhaps that’s the result of following a religion of peace? cough! cough!

  25. 49
    David Bailey says:

    “Oh dear.”

    Indeed.

    Time is not treating her kindly. ( See Wiki photos )

  26. 50
    Anonymous says:

    Why would a “Respect Party” member strongly support a Labour candidate?

  27. 54
    SNAFU says:

    Now that is ugly..

  28. 60
    Mullah Lite says:

    She is a right old dog.
    50 years old?

    And another 10. What a moose.

  29. 62
    Dusky witch says:

    She looks like an enriching Caroline Flint

  30. 63
    Anonymous says:

    #AsIf #PorkPies

    • 80
      • 97
        Insurance for a mobile phone FFS says:

        First Muslim woman MP gets 6-month driving ban for using a mobile phone and having no insurance

    • 94
      Proftastic says:

      Same old silly argument. The USA imported more oil from Iraq during Saddam’s last year than in any year since 2003. US oil imports from across the Middle East are 40% down on 2002 – 2003. Now we are never leaving Afghanistan because of minerals. Well we aren’t just leaving, the various UN NGOs and NATO are being pushed out, permanently, this year.

      She misrepresents the work done to give Afghanistan a non-drug based economy, I wonder why? (frightened of running out no doubt)

      All facts are verifiable to those who bother to look, these idiots get their information watching YouTube.

      • 103
        Acid rain doomsayer says:

        People believe any old crap. Its odd really. People will passionately believe something. Believe it so strongly they will kill others who don’t believe and the next moment forget all about it.

  31. 71
    Mad Mullah says:

    A face made for a Burka.

  32. 76
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    The !srael / P’alestine Shoah comparison / hypocrisy argument has been done to death and lost so many times that it is not funny.

    This argument only holds water and is made by those who cannot be bothered to get familiar with the actual infringements of International law which have been going on, but which are obscured by such emotive nonsense argument like this.

    Those infringements for the most part are very slight, it must be added.

    Good for her to speak her mind, but : WTF has this to do with actual problems in the UK – eg. Flooding and lack of EU referendum etc. ?

  33. 78
    UKIP does what it says on the tin says:

    “It is quite strange that some of the people who are running the state of Israel seem to be quite complacent and happy to allow the same to happen in Gaza.”

    Oh yes the gas chambers are running at full tilt in Israel, trains go in fully loaded with innocent Gazans and come out empty, all their priceless art and homes are taken by rich Jews who are even now living in all the finest houses and flats in Gaza.

    Meanwhile back at the ranch, Israel evacuated Gaza, every last Jew forced out, no Jew enters what has become a murderous gangster ruled ghetto where the gangsters steal all the aid and sell it on. No mention is made of the fact that Israeli hospitals are still treating sick Gazans, funny this ghastly fool forgot to mention that, also forgetting to mention the humanitarian aid that comes from Israel. Who are these specimens and how does labour manage to find them?

  34. 86
    Anonymous says:

    Typical liebor scumbag.

  35. 90
    P l e b says:

    “Those infringements for the most part are very slight, it must be added.”

    Yes, just like if France took over some waste land in Dover.

    • 102
      Casual Observer 6 says:

      The letter of international law needs to be looked at to understand why I said that, and why your example with F’rance is completely different.

      In principal I fully agree with you, but the way the borders and law have been drawn up makes the situation !srael / P’alestine very different.

      !srael was not acting with the spirit of international law when it started building settlements though, which has been conceded now.

  36. 96
    Shooty* says:

    All these comments are blatantly failing to consider her cultural sensitivities, and are, frankly, raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist.

    As a Palestinian, whatever she says is CORRECT and you must not disagree with it. Did you not get the memo?

  37. 99
    While we're on the subject of muslims says:

    “Female genital mutilation: pressure on Gove to inform teachers of practice
    More than 100,000 people urge Department for Education to write to teachers and tell them to inform children and parents about FGM”

    • 106
      upacreekwithoutapaddle says:

      As far as I can make out, this is not a religious requirement.
      I am not anti-Muslim, but I am dead set against Sharia law, in any form, in a Western nation. This tends to be culturally practised in third world countries. Either way, this has to be stopped, and I don’t give a rats ass what culture/country it is accepted. It should not be accepted anywhere

    • 111
      nell says:

      Surely this practice can be regarded as sexual assault or sexual abuse? And surely those doing the abusing be punished for sex crimes, because that is exactly what it is

      • 116
        Casual Observer 6 says:

        The only problem with that is the issue of religious conviction and cultural arguments for the practice.

        I agree with you.

        But then I believe that abortion for non medical reasons is wrong because that is murder.

        Would you agree on the subject of abortion, or do you consider the woman’s right to terminate an unwanted child to trump the rights of the child ? Further, what is the different then between a woman self inducing an abortion and going into hospital for a formal one ? (The woman would be charged if caught in the former case)

        The FGM argument falls into this category as the practice is tied to deeply held cultural / religious beliefs, as is male c’ircumcision.

        I think this should give a flavor of the real minefield which exists.

        Personally, I do not agree with the practice of FGM, but really would prefer not to have those who practice it in the country in the first place.

  38. 100
    Anonymous says:

    Any one found a pic of her doing the quenelle yet?

  39. 101
    Err says:

    Does the Coran forbid face-lifts or botox?

    • 128
      seriously? says:

      It doesn’t forbid sex-changes so I don’t suppose it’d have much of a problem with face-lifts or botox.

      Guess which country carries out the second highest number of sex-changes in the world?

      I*r*a*n.

      How they square that away with a perfect G*d I have no idea.

      Yeah, yeah, G*d is perfect. It’s just that he wants you to cut a bit off your c*ck. Because he fucked that bit up. Oh, and occasionally he assigns you the wrong gender. But apart from that? Perfect. He is all-knowing, wise.

  40. 108
    Only Saying says:

    For someone who apparently has campaigned without respite she should also know that Egypt has a border with Gaza that they defend with equal vigour. They could open this right now and remove at a stoke all the problems, but they won’t. They won’t because their presence serves their purpose better as they are. A few years ago the resident managed to break this border down but it was rebuilt within 24 hours and now they tunnel underneath it.

    This is the huge hypocrisy of this Middle East problem and one never addressed by these rabid lefties who quite simply are part of the problem.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza–Egypt_border

  41. 109
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    Can I inspect the Visitor Entry List for Chequers since the turn of the year please?

    • 111
      A taxpaying pleb says:

      And for the same period could I see the Chequers Wine Inventory and make an appointment to carry out a full taxpayer inventory?

  42. 117
    Little old lady from tooting beck says:

    FFS Dave if you want to get anywhere near winning the next election then dump idiots like chris smith. The man is a moron , has no idea about flood defence and even less about disaster management.

    You should take him outside no 10 and publicly dismiss the man. Then throw him out of the Lords as I object to 300 quid per day of my hard earned cash being paid to this utterly useless, good for nothing oxygen thieving waste of fucking skin

    While you areat it get rid of the others as well.

  43. 119
    Anonymous says:

    #SaysItAllReally

    • 129
      seriously? says:

      Surprised George Galloway didn’t win it. He seems v. popular with the religion of peace.

  44. 120
    Denying History says:

    Palestine refused its own independence in preference racist wars.

  45. 130
    Lucretia Burger says:

    Neetanyahoo’s boy’s in a bit of bother for screwing a Norwegian. Will the IDF take me out for fucking Chukker?

  46. 144
    gerrydorrian66 says:

    She’s a typical antisemitic “progressive” politician – shades of Baroness’s Tonge’s remarks about the IDF harvesting organs in Haiti?

  47. 145
    Anonymous says:

    Another useless female Labour MP. Mediocrity fails.

  48. 146
    Fathom: for a deeper understanding of Israel and the region says:

    In Fathom 5 Lesley Klaff explains the phenomenon of Holocaust Inversion. Read more here: http://www.fathomjournal.org/policy-politics/holocaust-inversion/


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