January 31st, 2014

WATCH: Daily Politics on Hayek

“Our faith in freedom does not rest on the foreseeable results in particular circumstances but on the belief that it will, on balance, release more forces for the good than for the bad.” 

Worth a watch.


  1. 1
    She was toast! says:

    Also worth a watch! If you missed last night’s Question Time, enjoy watching Emily Thornbellies get totally monstered, mullahd, annihilated – however you want to put it, she got destroyed by the audience and Ken Clarke.

    Watch how she visibly panics each time the audience laugh at her.


    • 3
      giggles easily says:

      T’was funny.


      • 5
        REALWORLDER says:

        Even Clarke joined in !


      • 6
        Mitch says:

        Agreed. Particularly the “why don’t you agree with me?” look she gave them all?

        I was surprised at how much stick she got, actually. Methinks the Labour party may not be reading this one right?


        • 14
          Casual Observer 6 says:

          As Canute found when he tried to stop the sea, so the Fabian’s and Labour are now finding with the tides of public opinion.

          Or, as Lincoln once put it, you can fool some people some of the time.

          Withdrawal of citizenship is not a particularly nice gun to be living under, but such legislation is required in order for the native born population to defend itself from those which will remain here once UKIP have sorted the borders out.

          Expect more ;-)


          • David, call me Prime Minister if you like says:

            We’ll get another Hung Parliament. And another ….and another…..


          • Nigel, I plummeted to earth @ 150mph and walked away with some fag-ash on my lapel, Farage says:

            I’ll have some of that. *checks pulse-rate, cholesterol-level and calender*


      • 42
        I dislike socialists intensely says:

        Emily Thornberry made herself look a prize prat on Question Time . She was
        spouting absolute crap . She must have been having lessons from Ed Balls.


        • 57
          Observation says:

          It’s hard to believe that there are actually people who vote for that woman.
          It’s time that the right to vote was subjected to a basic intelligence test.


    • 7
      JH3492384923056 says:

      Ah, the classic ‘…the point I was trying to make…’ in a hushed voice, as deployed by Abbopotamus when it suddenly becomes painfully obvious that everyone knows she is talking shit.


    • 11
      David, call me Prime Minister if you like says:

      When she started blowing it out her arse about Parliamentary Proceedure, I hit the mute button and got on with my knitting.


      • 16
        David, call me Prime Minister if you like says:

        lol. That would be Procedure, of course. I don’t get out much these days.


    • 49
      No wonder our legal system is fucked with clowns like this at the helm says:

      I had forgotten how thick this pompous patronising cow is.


  2. 2
    mr BIGEARS says:

    I thought it was Prescott in drag


  3. 4
    Enrichment classes. Is Chuka a communist? says:


    • 9
      JH3492384923056 says:

      ‘enrichment classes’.

      We need a fucking civil war, pronto.


    • 15
      Mugging Victim says:

      I left Brixton less Rich than I went in.


    • 19
      Iranian physicist says:

      Is Chuka wanting to learn how to make a nuclear bomb?


    • 23
      Wait - what! says:

      He meant enrichment at the expense of the taxpayer.


    • 24
      Mornington Crescent says:

      Well, talking of enrichment, I bought a copy of The Times today.

      Stay with me, it’s worth it.

      Today’s Times has an excellent exposé of ‘honour crimes’ in Britain, by Lucy Bannerman:

      “At the age of 7, Nimco Ali approached her favourite teacher, the only person she felt she could trust, and confided what had happened to her during the summer holidays. “Oh, that’s lovely'” said the teacher, on being told her pupil had been taken to the family c1rcumc1ser in Djibouti, “like a Bar Mitzvah.””

      And so on.

      So much for Labour’s enrichment. Enrichment that has anyone in this country (let alone teachers) thinking like that, is a vile social disease. Those that propagate such a disease such as Ummunnnaaa, Abbott and legions more both inside and outside politics are not figures of fun, they should be eradicated.


      • 34
        The prisons are full of foreigners which suggests we're not being enriched. says:


        I read the same article with disbelief. And that actual conversation with the teacher was 23 years ago, so god knows what the situation’s like now, after 13 years of Labour’s multi-culti lunacy.

        At least one girl’s family ‘enriched’ us by burning their daughter’s genitalia off with acid. Nice.


      • 48
        Cicero says:

        She compared a Muslim ritual to a Bar Mitzvah?! There’s a brave woman …


    • 26
      John Bellingham says:

      Enrichment classes? A new name for robbery? They used to call it affirmative shopping.


    • 31
      Jmf says:

      By all that’s phuking holy what in the Phuck are ‘enrichment classes’. Sorry, burrowed deep in Carmarthenshire we don’t appear to have such exotic beasts as ‘enrichment classes’.


      • 45
        Village Idiot says:

        …..”Enrichment classes”, it is a joke ,surely,..isn’t it;they are just having a bit of fun,winding people up,aren’t they?……Sensible,people would never dream up something so alien and out of kilter with a large part of the population,would they?
        …..This is Britain,…isn’t it?….Oh my God…..And it’s still raining..ffs!!!!!
        …..No wonder we can’t look after our own nation and its’ roads and flood defences!


      • 51
        Anonymous says:

        Fuck me, you can’t have been walking around Carmarthen much. Plenty of “enrichment” including the now obligatory Roma, husband and wife Big Ishoo sellers.


  4. 8
    Tony says:

    “This Austrian upstart took on Keynes.” And lost.


    • 13
      JH3492384923056 says:

      Well that settles that.

      Never mind that Keynesianism is a complete fucking failure and just provides cover for the likes of McMental to spend money we do not have.


    • 39
      Engineer says:

      Keynes won, did he?

      Well – up to 1979 he did. Then we ditched his ideas, and the country improved markedly. The Yanks are currently applying Keynsian ideas, and have just lost their place as the largest economy on the planet to China – so that worked well, didn’t it?


      • 46
        Vlad the Loudhailer says:

        Hayek wrote in his book “The Road to Serfdom”

        Where the precise’ effects of government policy on particular people are known, where the government aims directly at such particular effects, it cannot help knowing these effects’, and therefore it cannot be impartial. It must, of necessity, take sides, impose its valuations upon people and, instead of assisting them in the advancement of their own ends, choose the ends for them. As soon as the particular effects are foreseen at the time a law is made, it ceases to be a mere instrument to be used by the people and becomes instead an instrument used by the lawgiver upon the people and for his ends. The state ceases to be a piece of utilitarian machinery intended to help individuals in the fullest development of their individual personality and becomes a “moral” institution— where “moral” is not used in contrast to immoral but describes an institution which imposes on its members its views on all moral questions, whether these views be moral or highly immoral. In this sense the Nazi or any other collectivist state is “moral,” while the liberal state is not.

        Milliband take note.


  5. 10
    Owen Jones (age 16) says:

    It doesn’t matter how good things are I will keep making them worse till I think they are better.


    • 25
      Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

      If you are going to do that, dear, you will need a more memorable name. After all, nobody had heard of Shane Fenton until he became Albert Stardust.
      How about Owen Money, dear? Never did Zoot any harm, did it Reg?


      • 40
        Reg Beattie (past the expiry date) says:

        Fuck knows. Listen, my sweet. There’s a, chronic, shortage of green Rizlas up here at the moment. If you feel the cold hand of death playfully teasing the tresses of your blue-rinse any time soon, please stock up on multi-packs before you ‘go’. People are gasping and we’ll make a killing, old bag.

        Yours, Reg.


  6. 12
    classicist says:

    Better than nothing but far from the best intro to hayek. Did not really do him justice and missed the main point which is LIBERTY


    • 18
      John Smith says:

      Ah..Liberty; that old chestnut. Often discussed, mostly misunderstood.

      For example, Hollande thinks it’s his Liberty to do what the hell he wants and sod what effect it has has on anybody else (including his ‘loved’ ones).


  7. 22

    Small state
    Small state
    Small state
    Small state
    Small state
    Small state
    Small state
    Small state
    Small state
    Small state
    Small state
    Small state
    Small state

    You cannot say it too many times…


    • 28
      Wait - what! says:

      The State should be sliced so thinly, that it can pass light.


    • 30
      Casual Observer 6 says:

      The only way one can say it too many times is if the EU or current UK government set up a department to say it, and print it in umpteen different languages with a humongous expense account attached.

      Just thinking outside the box.

      Going to come back to you on the geometry point a little later – not avoiding – but there are some very specific aspects which were stripped from national curriculum when O-Levels were killed, and am fairly certain they have not been reintroduced.


    • 33
      John Smith says:

      Knowing you, you will.


    • 35
      JH3492384923056 says:

      It’s true, for no other reason than a small state has less capacity to fuck things up.

      The mindless presumption that people suddenly become magnanimous, selfless angels the second they start working for the state also needs to be challenged. People and the organisations they create act in self-interest, and in the state’s case this means growing like a cancer until the host is overwhelmed.


  8. 32
    (I've been renamed) DA-Notice says:

    Oi mate, you’re sitting at the table, not sat at it.


  9. 36
    M102 says:

    Sky News reporting that Constant Biscuit collapsed in court.


  10. 41
    Border Terrier says:

    Silly poppet Louise almost wet her knickers. Doubt that Keynes would have the same effect on her or anyone else, okay maybe a guardsman. Naill Ferguson where are you?


  11. 47
    Copper Top says:

    What do the Left wing BBC scum know about Right wing advocates? The BBC is criminal leeching disgrace that should be closed down.

    As for those overpaid pair of hoons on the Daily Politics, they can jog on if they think I will watch their leeching tripe.


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  13. 52
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Rather like Adam Smith, Hayek understood how people’s minds and motivation works. He also understood that for society to advance there need to be winners and losers.

    Fabian tw*ts like Miliband and Balls are clueless in comparison.


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