January 29th, 2014

PMQs SKETCH: Apologise!

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Why is Labour reminding us how stupid, intolerant, non-inclusive, undiverse and homophobic the miners were?

Do they think we haven’t seen Billy Elliott?

What a scorching indictment of working class brutalism that was.

Readers may be too young to remember but there was a progressive Government program in the 1980s to decarbonise the economy, to combat climate change, and to save working people from spending their naked working lives in filth and squalor by closing down the mile-deep, dark-as-sin, dust-filled death traps they toiled in.

Labour now want an apology for this.

Lisa Nandy, Michael Dugher, with the support, I suppose, of their leader and his illegal immigrant adviser, are wanting to re-run the 1980s in the expectation that this time they’ll win.

At PMQs just now, Ed Miliband (again ascending) repeatedly declared he was going to increase the top rate of tax to 50p in the pound – and he repeatedly asked David Cameron whether he had plans to reduce it to 40p.

He was dancing around in front of the Government pushing his chin out and saying, “See how hard you can hit me!”

Cameron is biding his time but was visibly lining up his punch. He said he was determined to reduce taxes for “the lowest-paid and middle income earners”. Essentially, it’s a Yes.

But these middle income earners aren’t as Miliband says, “the richest”, they aren’t “the few”. People on £40,000-odd can easily be defined as “middle-income earners”, especially with the aid of the special lexicographers hired in for the election to make these terms mean anything they want.

“The largest party” will need to be defined as “the party with the largest share of the popular vote” for instance. I can’t see a any impediment or barrier to a tax-cutting Tory/Lib Dem coalition.

 

PS: Bernard Jenkin asked the PM about fiddled crime figures, and said how targets had corrupted the reporting process. The PM pointed out they’d scrapped all targets except one: to reduce crime. And it’s true that crime has, magically, reduced. The target has been met. Except in Kent, the only county where the figure-fiddling has been stopped.

PPS: The wild-man amendments to the Immigration Bill tomorrow. As Labour says they are illegal under EU law. The Government is squeezing the timetable so there may not be time for the more revolutionary amendments. What will the Speaker do? Will he call or not call them?

Calling them will cause difficulties for the Government. There are rumours of No 10 backing some sort of operation to unseat the Speaker before the election. Almost certainly that will come to nothing, especially with the new iteration of Backseat Bercow, the Man of Modesty.

But not calling them will enrage the Tory Right, the very people whom Bercow is trying to propitiate, to coax out of their residual loathing of him.

Then again, the amendments might put Labour in a tricky position, forcing them to vote with the Government. What instructions will he be taking from the Labour leadership?

No doubt the Speaker will pick his way through the complex politics of it with his predatory, feline tread.


166 Comments

  1. 1
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    Great sketch.

    Labour are on the ropes, and they know it.

    Would be very nice if Dave could land his sucker punch before the upcoming snap election ;-)

    • 17
      King Edward says:

      Yet, they think they are going to win the next election and steer this country towards the great socialist revolution to end all great socialist revolutions.

      • 75
        Mr Potato Head2 says:

        It was another inept performance by Cameron. He couldn’t win the last election and that was after a massive Labour recession. Unless the Tories ditch Cameron they are never going to win the next election even if UKIP take plenty of northern seats from Labour.

        I mean how can you be on the defensive against moronic, envy-based plans to destroy growth by raising the higher rate tax to 50%, as it did last time?

        • 98
          Casual Observer 6 says:

          Dave is dead in the water, thanks to his friends at the Environment Agency, but if he can help push Labour voters towards UKIP he at least puts the Conservatives back with a chance of being senior partner in the upcoming coalition.

          Crosby perhaps has explained to him the logic of ‘my enemies enemy’, albeit using fish fingers and ketchup.

        • 128
          Taxpayer says:

          Because Cameron is no different to Milliband. He spouts “I’m a low tax conservative” when, in reality, he is obsessed with punishing success. He’s done nothnig but raise taxes since he came in and all this nonsense with the nil band is irrelevant to anyone earning over 40k as fiscal drag ( funny that Osborne used to castigate Brown for using that trick ) , bonkers marginal rates between 50k & 60k caused by the diabolically unfair child benefit changes and the eye watering 62% rate above 100k are just nasty policies aginst anyone who dares to try and work hard and get on.

        • 166
          Wilhelmina Bothwell says:

          Labour scored well in the last election, not because they were loved and trusted but because they had ‘bought’ the votes in setting up, by immigration etc, a ‘ client base’.

      • 91
        o7h says:

        Yes, they will probably win the next election and steer GB into more wars for the Stolen Land and the Chosen Ones.

    • 21
      ChrisBryantsAnus says:

      you’re deluded

      These economic terrorists led by Balls will be in power on May 2nd 2015

    • 22
      Diane Abbott does NOT want Coal Mines says:

      Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP Diane Abbott welcomed the decision by power company E.ON to postpone the building of a coal-fired power station in Kingsnorth in Kent.

      http://www.dianeabbott.org.uk/news/press/news.aspx?p=102522

    • 27

      his predatory, feline tread

      If I walked like that… :-)

    • 42
      Táxpáyér says:

      Look at the pic muBand has a fake nose it seems.

    • 66
      Is Ed going to apologise? says:

      Not only did Labour close more coal mines than the Conservatives. The present Leader of the Labour party ordered the closure of the coal power stations when he was last in Government.

    • 119
      nonbeliever says:

      Would be nice if Dave could land * A * sucker punch.

      Unfortunately we have what Vic Reeves might call ‘Wavy Davey’ – bending in the wind – whichever and from whomever it blows.

      Wish his backbone would stiffen somewhat…

  2. 2
    Ed Milliband former minister of climate change and silly walks says:

    Thank fuck Thatcher took on the miners otherwise I would have had to.

    • 35
      I dislike socialists intensely says:

      You would not have the guts to take anybody on never mind the miners ,
      anyway you would have to get permission from Len McClusky first.

    • 37
      Fish says:

      Correct.

      So a Soviet funded, Marxist inspired union, set about to bring down a democratically elected government with illegal strikes and secondary picketing and murder, refuse to hold a democratic ballot (all socialists are strangers to democracy) and intimidate their members…and today’s Labour Party, led by a Marxist inspired wrecker, incubated in a communist household, elected by an undemocratic ballot of Marxist Union leaders, (people who hate Britain) DEMAND AN APOLOGY?

      That Miliband could allow this debate says it all.

      This man, who has no affinity with this country – he’s just an international socialist, is the most dangerous man in Britain

      • 48
        Cinna says:

        Very true. He has no affinity with this country. See what happens when you let all these refugees in; they turn on you.

    • 81
      Comrade Len M says:

      No! You will do what your told Milliboy

  3. 3
    Trouble is says:

    Add national insurance at 12% and no deductions or reliefs and 50% equates to 62%. Are Soles the lot of them

    • 8
      Cabbage says:

      Which isn;t even the top rate of tax. Ludicrously you have to look further DOWN the income scale for that joy. If you include Employers NI ( as you have ) then between 100k and 118k it is 66.6% and everytime the tax free allowance increases that banding increases just a little…. Absolute lunacy.

      • 12
        One-term Dave (dragging the Tories to their grave) says:

        The eleven billion pounds I spunk-away every year on foreign aid (to make you all proud) doesn’t grow on trees, you know.

    • 33
      Táxpáyér says:

      Don’t forget EMPLOYER NI!

      Then VAT on what you buy.

  4. 3
    peem birrell says:

    >>Readers may be too young to remember but there was a progressive Government program in the 1980s to decarbonise the economy, to combat climate change, and to save working people from spending their naked working lives in filth and squalor by closing down the mile-deep, dark-as-sin, dust-filled death traps they toiled in.

    No – decarbonise? climate change? Get a grip.

    • 7
      Casual Observer 6 says:

      Readers and pundits may be too young to ask the question as to whether A’rnie G’raf’s maxed out visa problem could wind up being Miliband’s Hindenburg.

      Time for a spot of fishing by Lake Constance ;-)

      • 19
        Old git says:

        My grandfather was a coal miner. He got out and became a gardener but he still died of pneumoconiosis.

        • 73
          C.O.Jones says:

          My grandfather actually down the mine while working. In 1943. It was not an industrial accident, he suffered a stroke.

          • C.O.Jones says:

            Sorry, should read

            My grandfather actually died down the mine while working.

          • Mr Bevin says:

            At least you can take comfort in the fact that he didn’t have to suffer the shame of going on strike the next year. All for comrade Stalin.

          • C.O.Jones says:

            Yes, that brought a lot of shame on many miners. Not all of them were reds.

    • 118
      Airey Belvoir says:

      You seem to have had an irony bypass!

  5. 5
    JMF says:

    Just seen that a clutch of the Met Plod are off on a jolly to Portugal . Any excuse to pack their water wings and lube.

    • 50
      Fly on the wall says:

      Can somebody – anybody – please explain just exactly what is so special about this particular girl? Kids disappear all the time, so why this persistent hooha over this one?

      • 68
        Kate & Gerry McCan't says:

        Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?

        • 121
          Gerry McCunt says:

          Ask our host. He works for one of the many people covering it up. Ask why a humble heart expert with excellent scene sterilization skills might be so important to the top people in the Labour party.

      • 150
        Anonymous says:

        And think how the Daily Mail might react if Kate & Gerry were from on a council state. Then again, despite the mindless film, what is funny about being left Home Alone?

  6. 6
    There isn't a shit job yet invented a white bloke hasn't been prepared to do says:

    Mining.isn’t that one of those jobs us honkies weren’t prepared to do?

  7. 10
    Sherlock Holmes says:

    “And it’s true that crime has, magically, reduced. The target has been met. Except in Kent, the only county where the figure-fiddling has been stopped.”

    Kent. The first port of call for the tide of immigrants who pour day and night through and under the Channel.

    And crime coincidentally isn’t going down there?

    Intriguing..

  8. 13
    REALITY CHECK says:
  9. 14
    Anonymous says:

    The top rate of tax that they’re talking about applies after £150k not 40k. Would help if you knew what policies you were mocking them for

  10. 15
    JMF says:

    Looking at the above photo, Balls appears to be packing on the beef around his face, comfort eating perhaps.

  11. 16
    Trade unions were meant to represent the workers not the ambitions of individual lefty c*nts says:

    Hard nosed trade unionists like my granddad wouldn’t fit into Labours vision of the future.
    Political correctness and all that bollocks espoused by the likes of Ed who has never had a job in his life.
    Fuck off.

    • 127
      (Rarely) Dangerous Brian says:

      My grandfather was an ex miner, fought in the first war and owned a small business later in life.
      He was a small c conservative and a real labour man for all that, He lived in a mining village just outside Doncaster all his adult life.
      I know one thing for certain, he wouldn’t view Cameron as a conservative and he certainly wouldn’t see Millibrand as Labour.
      A po* on all their HOUSES.

  12. 18
    ChrisBryantsAnus says:

    Millipede and his gang are taking politics to the sixth form Marxist society level

    Cheap points scoring, with no interest whatsoever as to what it actually takes to be a politician of stature, and conviction

    However they clearly know as we all do, the vast ranks of professional benefits scroungers, postal vote fraudsters, and public sector undead will get them past the 35% mark in May 2015

    Personally i hope they actually have time to finish the job of destroying the economy, because the debate about state spending will be over, at least for ten/fifteen years

    • 28
      Labour really are shite says:

      I’m surprised Milliband didn’t bring up the sinking of the General Belgrano.
      Then again with Labours war record that old chestnut seems to have died a death.

      • 155
        Anonymous says:

        Not should that certain Tories would wish to open this whole can of worms. For as well as considering what happened to subs log, there is the question of why an up-to-date nuclear-powered submarine was ordered to sink an out-of-date WWII cruiser that was outside of – and heading away from – the ‘Total Exclusion Zone zone’?

    • 36
      Newspaper report 2020 says:

      We all laughed when Ed was made PM in 2015. Well, we’re not laughing now!

      • 82
        C.O.Jones says:

        The year is 2015 and

        The Office of George and Francis Osborne is created – a pseudo charity that has cloudy accounts and is a great provider of first class travel.

        David Cameron starts up PR Agency which defends some of the worlds worst dictators and despots.

        Remind you of anything?

      • 95
        Ellie-Mae (9) says:

        Also in the 2020 news, Ed Balls admits that he suffers from a reading disorder that caused him to confuse “running” and “ruining” whist in charge of the economy.

        • 158
          ANUSbUTTOCKS says:

          UK will be heading back into massive unsustainable deficit by 2015

          Just as in ’97 these economic terrorists will ride the economic revival for a few years, then disaster will strike again

  13. 25
    Lost in the wilderness says:

    I think this is Labour trying to use the miners strike as part of their class war election strategy in divide and rule. Similar incidents will be dragged out from the past and highlighted.

    • 41
      Current events may prove more devisive says:

      Except a lot of ex miners are probably pissed off that their daughters and granddaughters are being used as sex slaves by the local curry house staff and Labour have absolutely nothing to say on the matter.

      • 46
        The Labour Party says:

        Not so. We say ‘Embrace the enrichment’ and ‘Celebrate the social cohesion’. We say ‘Everything good in this country was really the work of immigrants’. We say ‘White men are hideous’. We say ‘Pay your taxes, do as we tell you and keep your fucking mouths shut’.

      • 71
        Casual Observer 6 says:

        A lot of ex miners are now voting UKIP.

        A lot of abused minors may not be voting Labour in the future.

    • 72
      bergen says:

      If he thinks campaigning on a strike 30 years ago is a winner , he should reflect:

      a) those areas in which the story may play will vote Labour anyway

      b) in all other areas people will wonder what on Earth he’s chundering on about.

      Sometimes the Marxist sentimentalist in him overides the little sense he has.

      • 97
        Good strategy..go on strike when there is 2 years supply of coal at the power stations ?? says:

        The NUM under Scargill had lost the strike before it even began but they were under the illusion that it was 1973 all over again

  14. 26
    Gatso says:

    Labour still can’t get over the coal mines. They’re stuck in the 1970s.

    Next thing they’ll be announcing a new super high top rate of tax and have a leader who’s useless.

    • 29
      The Fabian Society says:

      Bring back sugar rationing

    • 136
      macca mcfc says:

      And the Tories still cant get over slavery ending, there stuck in the 1870s, next thing you know people will want a full time job for a decent wedge, now that is daft.

      • 152
        2112 says:

        There would be plenty of full time jobs to go around if your Labour mates hadn’t decided to import all that cheap labour from abroad.

        • 156
          Anonymous says:

          But might not there be more full-time jobs if the Tories would prevent their mates in big business from importing, and mis-using, cheap labour?

  15. 30
    Huge Grant says:

    I had some woman in the back of a cab once.

    • 45
      Diane Fatbott says:

      It wasn’t me as cabs never stop for me.

      • 60
        Bilda Berger says:

        Is it true that rhinos are simply fat unicorns?

        • 125
          Alan Quatermaine says:

          Rhinocerotidae, including the Black African variety, are fierce-looking but fairly docile creatures. They are short-sighted and extremely stupid animals and tend to dung in a few favourite spots, creating middens. Hippos on the other hand are very comical to behold, but very dangerous. When they submerge they have the ability to close their ears as well as their eyes; recent research has shown that they communicate not only with grunts, but also with a system of controlled flatulence. When dunging, Hippos wag their tails vigourously to spread their leavings and thus proof of their presence in as wide an area as possible.

  16. 31
    Manic Miner says:

    How many deep coal mines re-opened during Labour’s 13 years in power?

    • 43
      Mornington Crescent says:

      Exactly.

      I honestly think Militwit’s Labour is losing its marbles. There’s certainly mutiny in the ranks caused, as ever, by non-existent leadership.

      So, is it now Labour’s policy to reopen the mines? Come to think of it, does Labour have any policies yet? Seriously.

    • 89
      The most amusing claim ever says:

      Of course many of them are housing estates or nature reserves or visitor attractions or business parks so not many available for re-opening anyway

  17. 39
    Benny Fitz-Clements says:

    Cohesion Payments are like Tax Credits: they ensnare the recipients in a dependency culture.

  18. 40
    Jimmy says:

    “Readers may be too young to remember”

    It’s more likely they’re too old to remember.

    • 52
      Young Buck says:

      It was the crusty old hippy who taught sociology at my college who made me question the motivation of most socialists.
      His motivation by the way was wanting to shag the female students.

    • 64
      Socialists sing a good fight says:

      If Jimmy had a hammer,
      He’d be fucked what to do,
      Hold it by the handle,
      Or put the nail in with his shoe,

    • 85
      Owen Jones says:

      Yeah – right on Jimmy. That’s why we should stand in solidarity with our brothers against the scabs ! Everyone – Out !

  19. 44
    Buzzfart says:

    10 things Labour should apologise for

    1 Iraq
    2 Deficit
    3 Mass immigration
    4 Bank meltdown
    5 Afghanistan
    6 Covering up hospital deaths
    7 Lord Levy’s cash for honours
    8 allowing Gordon Brown to become PM
    9 10 tax rate fiasco
    10 selling off gold reserves on the cheap

  20. 54
    Dredge the Rivers with EU Eco Loons says:

    The Eco loons have already popped up on Sky saying Dave can’t Dredge the rivers, it is against EU LAW.

    I wish Sky would take them down to sedgemoor and get them to tell the locals that.

  21. 57
    John The Baptist says:

    Bring me the head of Milliband.

  22. 62
    Labour's joined up thinking says:

    So Labour are going to re-open the coal mines but Ed’s last policy in Government was to close the coal power stations.

    What are they going to do with all the coal?

    • 70
      RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

      We are taking you back to the 1970s with new Winters of Discontent. Once Red Len gets the power switched off, you’ll need the coal to keep warm.

      • 83
        Bio Fuel says:

        If that comes to pass, there are plenty of fat lefties who can be burned, and thin ones.

    • 77
      Labour Press Office says:

      What are they going to do with all the coal? They are going to crush it between Rachel Reeves thighs to make diamonds.

    • 84
      Ah! I know says:

      Re-open the coal mines so all the flood water can go down them. Simps.

  23. 67
    NOT Jon Snow says:

    Whenever I look at White Dee I don’t think about sex.

  24. 92
    Boy Milliband says:

    “Foreign Investment in France Falls 77%” If France could do it with a Socialist Agenda so could we.

    • 112
      nell says:

      Yes militwit’s french hero is working absolute wonders in destroying the french economy with his socialist economic illiteracy.

  25. 93
    Blind Pugh says:

    A definite three-bagger, that (whitish) Dee.

  26. 94
    Why would the rest of UK want to bail out failed Scottish banks again ?? says:

    Pro-Scottish Independence Supporters spinning that Mark Carney’s Speech in Edinburgh indicates that an independent Scotland will have no problem demanding that they use the pound sterling and that Bank of England is Scotland’s Lender of Last resort. Darling and the No campaign say otherwise of course

  27. 96
    Ah! wonder why? says:

    Foreign Investment in France Falls 77%

    • 106
      retardEd Miliband says:

      Gweat! They will all invetht here when I copy Pwethident Hollande’th Thothialitht polithieth!

      No more cotht of living cwy-thith!

  28. 105
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    Seeing as the Eurozone does not seem to give a jot about individual nation state sovereignty or democratic rule, perhaps this makes the notion of re-conquering Europe (after the UK exits) somewhat acceptable, and perhaps a just cause.

    As Blair would put it, bringing democracy back to Europe could be a good way to garner popular political support against the enemies of liberty which exist over there.

    • 109
      Mr Negative says:

      That’s a good idea, but hasn’t Dave got rid of our armed forces?

      • 116
        Casual Observer 6 says:

        They are privateers now.

        Could probably get what is needed contracted from the US or Russ!a.

        Not many major conflicts on at the moment and Europe is a softer target than batshit crazy muzzies – so finding willing folk would not be a problem.

  29. 108
  30. 110
    i don't n eed no doctor says:

    Labour are making their version of Back to the Future. Labour’s aim is to take us back to the 70′s, so if you want strikes, loss of jobs, no investment, high tax rates (and I mean high), away you go and vote for them. I witnessed personally what labour did. I for one do not wish that on the country.

  31. 114
    top of the tots says:

    there are loads of former minors also looking for apologies…

  32. 123
    Ken Livingstone for London Mayor !!!!! says:

    The Labour were up in arms when Nigel Lawson reduced the top rate of tax to 40p. LABOUR KEPT THIS RATE FOR 13 YEARS. It’s April the 1st every day with this Labour opposition. Complete Joke !

  33. 134
    Immer Wieder says:

    It always bothers me when the leader of the opposition uses his few questions at PMQ’s to demand over and over again that the PM issues a decree that he will not do something in the possibly foreseeable future about an issue the government that the government has no stance on and does not need to for some time.

    It bothers me more that Cameron didn’t just reply with “there are currently no plans for a reduction but we’re looking to reduce the tax burden on everyone; the low, middle and, yes, the high earners (insert reference to tax cuts for the low and middle here), and a cut in the highest rate of tax is not going to be ruled out (insert how the rich will pay more under lower taxes) when the time comes to review our policies.”

    • 137
      John Bellingham says:

      When I was a schoolboy (long time ago), I traveled up to London to visit parliament a few times. I got to see PMQs twice, once with Home Vs. Wilson and once with Wilson Vs Heath. On both occasions apart from a “major question of the day” from the Opposition leader , other questions all seemed to be constituency matters as the time was an opportunity for MPs to bring matters of interest to their constituencies to the PMs (public) attention. It all seemed very civilised and gentlemanly and had some purpose; it’s all very X-factor now.

  34. 135
    Immer Wieder says:

    Also I really love the new guy covering all of the goings on inside the HoP, keep him Guido!

  35. 138
  36. 139
    Snotrocket says:

    In being badgered to say if he would ever go down to 40p, Cameron should have told the Militwit that he would be pleased to go the highest tax band that Labour kept for 12 years: 40p. (the 45p rise being a political gesture when they knew they would lose the GE)

  37. 140
    Snotrocket says:

    Talking about MT getting rid of mines, I’d have thought the current Labour party and their Greenpiss claque would be only to keen to get rid of such a dangerous and toxic example of manual fracking. It is far better to use remote and very deep-frilled automated fracking where men are not exposed to the dangers below, and the water tables won’t be contaminated with coal gas, methane and the rest – not to mention the odd earthquake when a long lost seam collapses and swallows a couple of houses as well.

  38. 149
    Obviously says:

    Yes, we intend to go to 40%, so that everyone who aspires to improve their wages will feel the benefit of their own efforts if they gain promotion.

  39. 165
    Mike c says:

    Corton Wood closure precipitated a walk out by miners in the Yorkshire coal field. The justification of the closure was that it was making unacceptable losses.
    But included in its operating cost was compensation for subsidence.
    This was fraudulent accounting as the compensation would have to be paid whatever.. Arthur Scargill may be many things but not a liar as was Ian McGregor and Margaret Thatcher denying that they had a list of 30 odd pits earmarked for closure. The Vendetta by the Tories continues . Where has it led we are now going cap in hand to the Communist Party in China letting them build a nuclear Power station for us and paying over the odds for it.
    How come the Communists have the capital and management expertise to do this?


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Rashida Manjoo is a part-time professor of law at Cape Town University in the totally non-sexist country of South Africa (otherwise known as Rape Capital Of The World).

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