January 29th, 2014

Facts are Sacred

…reports the Guardian this morning. Today, under cross examination, Dan Evans has confessed Coulson never actually used that word:

C.P. Scott would be turning in his grave…


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  1. 1
    Rabid dribbler says:

    Is anyone surprised about this?

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    • 2
      Mitch says:

      The Guardian reported what Evans said? Sounds like it wasn’t true. Newspapers would be pretty thin if they only contained provable ‘facts’?

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      • 5
        CYNICAL OLD GIT says:

        How much longer is this going to drag on for ,who cares about ‘ celebrities ‘ phones being hacked . NOBODY GIVES A FUCK !!

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        • 115
          Mark says:

          You’re wrong. Celebrities phones being hacked led to front page stories that sold in millions. The crucial point of this is, whilst celebs and tittle-tattle aren’t important, they are big business. Therefore whilst Murdoch riles against the hundreds of officers and millions of pounds of public money given up to pursuing this, he (and others) had armies of reporters and many more millions spent pursuing celebs ILLEGALLY. The question we should be asking is, why were they not pursuing one celebrity’s peadophilia/necrophilia through illegal means to get a story that would have grabbed attention. Why was Saville left alone – and – for instance – Daniel Criag’s phone illegally hacked when all the editors knew the truth about Savile?

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      • 8
        we're all in it together says:

        Did the fat mulatto mention Saint Margaret’s avoidance of inheritance tax to the British Exchequer?

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        • 109
          broderick crawford says:

          WOW…….

          you mean she got Denis s stash WITHOUT having to stump up the 40 percent ???

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      • 9
        Round the Bend says:

        The Guardian reports what Labour says as the truth.

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    • 7
      Alan Rusbridger says:

      We don’t do apologies, only corrections.

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      • 76
        Maximus says:

        Not so. You do wet knickers when the spooks come around.

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      • 114
        odomela says:

        i’m fucking sick of secret/forma left wingers like guido fawkes peddling these cheap shots !!!! guido used to take M D FUCKING M A at raves in the 90s if we are forgetting !! what right doe s he have to accuse left wingers, he used be one of them !! so fucking what if the guardian made upa littel lie about that slimeball coulson, look what fucking coulson has done for once respectebale publications like the NOTW and the sun !!!!! now these papaers are trash !!! and to cut my rant short, yeas i bloody well am not not surprised, and i doubt anybody can be becos this is england in 20bloody14!!!!!1!

        guido??? more like FAKE-doe!!!!!

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    • 14
      The Rogue Gamekeeper says:

      SO.
      The Sun was telling the Truth about Hugh Grant and the Guardian lies about Andy Coulson. Which paper does “Hacked Off” support?

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      • 46
        Psyche the Dog says:

        I don’t read the rag, nor did I read NoW except when I was a teenager and preteen, what Hugh Grant did or did not do or any other “celebrity” did, is not world shattering importance. What concerns me and most folks, is what what the articles in the HoC and HoL do, they affect everybodies lives by what they do. Some in the government (of any hue) seem to become unaware of reality and how their actions, no matter how well intentions, affect millions of people.

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    • 24
      Psyche the Dog says:

      That bit was in the online version yesterday, presumably the previous days report on court proceedings, it’s not in today’s version, at least as far as I can see. Well what did Coulson say, “very good old chap”, come on Fawkesy, the question is did Coulson employ this guy to hack phones.

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        Hacked Off says:

        No phones were “hacked”. They simply listened to the automated answerphone that the celeb had left unprotected.

        It’s like reading an open letter that postie dropped at someone’s gate.

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          Mitch says:

          Not really. There was enough intervention (without permission) to call it “hacking”.

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          • Answerphones R Us says:

            No. Hacking was not even in the dictionary then, neither was “voicemail”.

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          • Mitch says:

            Since when did the dictionary determine our criminal law? Coulson and the others have been accused of breaking some law relating to “hacking”, even if it doesn’t use that word?

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          • Bill Quango MP says:

            I think the wrong people are on trial. The ‘hacks’ are criminal.

            But getting the phone numbers to hack involves bribery, corruption, data protection laws and probably abuse of office.

            We could all press 1111 or 0000 to access a voicemail.
            But there is no mobile number phone directory.

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          • Psyche the Dog says:

            Answerphones R Us, no but every body including kids knew what was meant by the words “hacking” and “voicemail”, except probably the odd lawyer or judge every one in the early 60’s remember the famous “Who are the Beatles”

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          • have been accused of breaking some law relating to “hacking”

            I see we have an expert on criminal law online today.

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          • Psyche the Dog says:

            Bill, there is a little point in law (unless I am mistaken) if the haching was done by an employee with the directions from an employer or senior manager, and is paid by said employer and senoir manager, that employer or manager is also liable for the same offence, an example would be if someone employes someone to kill someone else, they are also guilty of murder as well as the actual murderer.

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          • Mitch says:

            The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 prevents “unlawful intercepting of a postal, public or private telecommunications scheme”, under S.1(1), (2) & (7).

            I guess that is what we’re calling Hacking? I assume the judge will know the law, and will direct the jury accordingly.

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          • Another legal eagle on board, alluding to a vague knowledge of vicarious liability.

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          • Bill Quango MP says:

            To clarify.
            No problem with the phone hackers on full trial. They broke the law. They knew it was illegal. So did their bosses.

            But the police or health workers were supplying phone numbers. And/or the phone companies or their employees.

            If you look up

            Harry Windsor
            Buckingham Palace Road
            W1

            There is no phone number. And even if there was there would not be a mobile phone number. So only those with access to such details can have supplied them.
            Agents? Friends? In some cases. but much bribery in others.

            This part of the criminality has mostly been ignored. And its the most serious part.

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    • 29
      Sir William Wayde says:

      So the Guardian report was true. Mr Evans did Claim that Coulson used the word ‘brilliant’.

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    • 51
      AncientMariner says:

      Let’s get this straight, Evans alleges all this stuff took place and he also says he destroyed all the evidence?
      Sounds like a prosecution deal to me.

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  2. 3

    Does the Miller grind in great quantities?

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  3. 4
    Ah! Monika says:

    King George V, letter to C.P. Scott on his retirement (July, 1929)
    For fifty-seven years you have been responsible for the conduct of a great newspaper, and his Majesty, while regretting your resignation, congratulates you on an achievement which must surely be unique in the annals of journalism.

    And what will her Maj be saying to Rusbridger?

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  4. 6
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Ah. Evans is a master of the dark art of “MSUing”, or Making Shit Up.

    Only an arrogant tosser would try this in court.

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  5. 11
    Wait - what! says:

    The BBC will report what the Guardian said and then it will forever be deemed as fact.

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  6. 12
    Ah! wonder says:

    Why aren’t the Guardian headlining with the ” Dicks off to Portugal ” story?

    The Telegraph is.

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    • 19
      Displaced Brummie says:

      The headline should be: “Dicks out in Portugal.”

      Oops! Sorry. Had a red top moment, there…

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  7. 17
    HEARDITALLANDSENITALLBEFORE says:

    When will this tedious affair end , can nobody make it stop ?

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  8. 18
    Crisp Ackham says:

    The Guardian are enjoying it too much.

    BTW Guido, see Zoe William’s piece on how work today is the same as a Victorian mill. It’s deserving of your loony left OTT award.

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  9. 20
    Oh Owen says:

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  10. 21
    Cinna says:

    BBC getting some stick on Have Your Say. Looks like the arrival of Syrian refugees isn’t as popular as they BBC thought it would be.

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    • 25
      There is no need to bus them into the UK says:

      FFS All we had to do was book a couple of floors in a hotel in Turkey. Problem solved very cheaply, at a stroke and no future strings attached.

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  11. 23
    Fishy says:

    I see the BBC decided to run this on Newsnight last night, keen to mention ‘Cameron’ in the same piece (not surprising as they and the Guardian seem to be one and the same entity).

    The BBC must reckon that they are getting close to the vinegar strokes

    Coulson, though, should take some comfort in that, like their favourite economist; Blanchflower, their favourite party; Labour, their blockbuster exposes; McAlpine, Help for Heroes, Newsnight is usually on the wrong side of the story

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  12. 28
    Ah! more Balls says:

    US President Barack Obama promises a “year of action” in his annual State of the Union address, saying he will bypass Congress to tackle economic inequality.

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    • 32
      Mitch says:

      Someone should point out to him how the US system of government works.

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    • 33
      The worst President since they invented Presidents says:

      Has Barry O been taking tips from Ed Balls?

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    • 45
      Oblimay says:

      We should all be equal so I am going to sell off the White House and live in a slum. Yeah right.

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    • 59
      Dwight D Eisenhower says:

      The US remains by far the world’s most successful country in industry, science and military matters.
      Why, 2 of the nukes we dropped on Japan went off, so that’s a 67% success rate.

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      • 75
        Anonymous says:

        you have my interest… are you inferring there was a third nuke that did not go off?

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        • 94
          Bill Quango MP says:

          There was never a third nuke.
          But Nagasaki was not the intended target of the second bomb.

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          • Anonymous says:

            That would be small comfort to Tsutomu Yamaguchi – the man from Nagasaki who was on a business trip to Hiroshima when the Hiroshima bomb landed and then made it back to Nagasaki in time to get nuked a second time.
            Per Wikipedia He finally died in 2010. RIP.

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        • 106
          Dwight D Eisenhower says:

          Is that still classified information?
          Uhh…how do I delete a post here?

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          • utter utter cunts says:

            thank you i stopped being lazy and googled and learnt about the nuke that was destined for tokyo. the only unofficial thing i had heard about that whole terrible business is that the war was already won and the usa had no real need to attack japan with atomic weapons, but did so to send a warning message to the rest of the world.

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  13. 44
    Fuck everyone says:

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  14. 52
    Inciting a Riot says:

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  15. 58

    As I recall my precise words were: “I’m appalled. This is not how we do things at the Daily Tits. I want you to clear your desk as soon as you’ve apologised to Miss Miller.” I may be paraphrasing here.

    Good work on this Guido.

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  16. 60
    Mrs Gove Encourages motorists to Physically attack Cyclists says:

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    • 69
      Anonymous says:

      So, if I’m in an expensive Audi, people should expect me to be violent – and if they approach me and they get hurt then they’re to blame?

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      • 80
        Fish says:

        Me too.

        There’s a sign in the Woolwich foot tunnel and a bylaw saying ‘no cycling’ That didn’t stop, on Sunday, a wanker in lycra weaving through at speed just missing me and nearly knocking a young kid over in the process.

        There’s a nasty militant aggressive cycling fraternity that demand their rights but have no responsibility.

        The bloke in the Audi shouldn’t have punched the idiot, but he was sorely provoked

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        • 97
          Mitch says:

          The bloke in the Audi probably nearly killed the cyclist, by driving too close or somesuch.

          What amazes me is that drivers will quite happily sit stationary in a queue of 100+ cars but hate it when they’re behind a bike. Personally, I think it’s jealousy and small-penis syndrome.

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        • 101
          Mitch says:

          The bloke in the Audi probably nearly killed the cyclist, by dr1ving too close or somesuch.

          What amazes me is that dr1vers will quite happily sit stationary in a queue of 100+ c@rs but hate it when they’re behind a bike. Personally, I think it’s jealousy and small-penis syndrome.

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      • 81
        Off with their heads says:

        Audi drivers are the new BMW gits. Wankers to a man.

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      • 82
        Off with their heads says:

        Audi dri,vers are the new BMW gits. Wankers to a man.

        Sod this bloody modding!

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    • 103
      Lard bucket alert says:

      Sarah Vine, expresses an opinion on cyclists riding slowly up hills. Sarah would get off and push cos she is too much into the products of the local patisserie.

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  17. 72
    Fish says:

    It’s not only the £10,000 a week in expenses, former politician Gordon Brown that has questions to answer over his ‘office for making money’.

    His wife does too.

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/steerpike/2014/01/sarah-browns-unpatriotic-office/

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  18. 78
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    Guardian modus operandi:

    i) Print story containing utter bollocks, but lurid and politically useful spin and lies, with very large headline.

    ii) Following day print small retraction somewhere in the bit that people don’t normally read.

    iii) Hope that the people smeared cannot outgun them in court if libel is raised, but the retraction should help demonstrate ‘good will’

    Despite the fact that this pattern is pretty much a daily business as usual aspect of the publication which aims to help the Left…

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  19. 84
    Hugh Grant says:

    Fucks are sacred!

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  20. 91
    Rightie on! says:

    Why do righties hate everyone who isn’t them?

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  21. 92
    Ah! She should have gone to Specsavers says:

    Optical Express manager called disabled employee ‘fat, ugly size-22 crip ple’, tribunal hears
    29 Jan 2014 06:00
    Hugh Kerr is alleged to have said ‘sex sells specs’ – but that the female employee did not fit in at the company.

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  22. 96
    UKIP or bust says:

    Concerning the quote of the day.

    “Gloria de Piero on the LibDems choosing a man as their new deputy leader:

    “This result comes as little surprise when you remember Nick Clegg leads a Parliamentary Party which has as many men with knighthoods as it has women MPs. When it comes to women’s representation, the Lib Dems really need to move up a gear. With just seven out of 57 MPs, they score even worse than the Tories.”

    Why do women keep joining the Libdems?

    It’s like b’lacks joining the KKK!

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  23. 113
    Raptor says:

    Back on topic. When can we expect The Guardian to publish a report on its employee David Leigh, who claimed that he gave a lecture to his fellow Guardian employees on the subject of “How to hack telephones” ?

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  24. 116
    Halitosis says:

    Yet more evidence Guido doesn’t know anything about court reporting.

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