January 28th, 2014

Labour’s Controversial New Schools Policy

A somewhat unfortunate choice of words from Yvette Cooper this afternoon:

“Today, the House of Lords has a chance to make a real difference to the lives of young people by voting yes to compulsory sex and relationship education in English schools.”

When press releases go wrong…


393 Comments

  1. 1
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Compulsory sex with Yvette Cooper?

    Hmm. Sort of makes White Dee almost acceptable. But not quite.

  2. 2
    The public says:

    The final part of his/her transgender operation seems to be taking forever.

    • 89
      Transgenetics implants and other things says:

      Briefly: The Wonders of introducing genes from of species can serve all sorts of purposes but all the early pioneers and most of current suffer from side effects. Their personalities suffer, excess body growth, delusions of grandeur, sibling revialry to the point of being enemies, a lack of truth, adulation craving, temper tantrums, alcoholism. With extensive counseling and a strong sense of structure to their lives these people can go far, too far, but can never achieve consistent anthropological well being. They are a danger. It always goes wrong and the fall out depends upon how important they have become. The greatest danger is when they are able to cluster and assist each other. You have been warned. The early science was eugenics which gave rises to maniacs in Europe. It manifests its self in many forms but their common tray is for ever seeking great control over human beings.

    • 188
      Psyche the Dog says:

      Maybe if sex education is compulsory the kiddie winks would not be able to say they did not know what was happening but it didn’t seem right and that Savile thing may not happen again.

      • 255
        F*CKwit says:

        Excellent !

        Let’s reduce the age of informed consent to.. well, Ms Harman supported P.I.E @ 3y.

        OK?

  3. 3
    LibDem Press Office says:

    Compulsory Sex in schools, we will back this policy to the hilt.

  4. 4
    Huh? says:

    Is it just me, I can’t see what’s wrong with that statement? :S

    • 7
      Jimmy Saville says:

      I can’t see anything wrong with it either…..

    • 13
      cep says:

      The ‘sex’ and ‘relationship’ should be swapped round.

    • 41
      Spartacus says:

      strunk and whyte will tell you

      • 151
        broderick crawford says:

        Jeez am I glad I ve got no kids and don t have to bother my delicate head with these weighty matters.

        Bad enough having a wife …. if I do not continue to ” rise” to her every expectation she ll probably sue for divorce then I ll have to oay her alimony !!!

        Gordon , give me one of your pills …. NOW!

    • 174
      Gary Bloke says:

      The joke is that the way that Labour wrote it, it sounds as if they favour compulsory sex in schools. Hyphens in the phrase “compulsory sex-and-relationship(s) education” would have avoided that, as someone else has pointed out.

  5. 6
    John Ward (Medway) says:

    It is at times like this that I am so pleased that I was at school in less ‘enlightened’ (supposedly!) times, and we were permitted to go our own ways, rather than being forced to fit someone else’s social (or whatever) agenda…

    • 8
      Spartacus says:

      another grammar school boy i see

      • 17
        John Ward (Medway) says:

        Not I. Secondary Modern, that later became a Comprehensive (while I was in the sixth form). Canterbury Road School, Morden, Surrey, 1960 to 1966…

        Next question?

        • 36
          Spartacus says:

          no question, just that i too had a similar experience to the one you describe, at Mostyn Road almost in Morden.

          • John Ward (Medway) says:

            Ah! Good ol’ Mostyn Road – and the charming Mostyn Gardens, and all of Merton Park! Great place with such character…

          • Anonymous says:

            Catholic grammar school boy here, the only advice they gave us on sex was that playing with yourself will make you blind. I must have ignored the advice because I now have Macular Degeneration in both eyes.Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

          • Potemkin Village says:

            Anonymous Macular Degenerate – there is rather good evidence that an appropriately formulated nutritional program can stabilise and in some cases partially reverse your condition. Google Paul Clayton and nutrishield to start with. Good luck.

          • Anonymous says:

            I stopped when I needed glasses.

        • 377
          Ma Fioso says:

          Glastonbury always used to thrash you lot at football and cricket – before it was all closed own for some reason.

    • 16
      Mitch says:

      Can the state not let us do anything for ourselves without constant interfering?

      • 22
        Hugh Janus says:

        Obviously not, more’s the pity. The phrase ‘personal responsibility’ was banned by Liebour many years ago and is most unlikely to return.

        • 43
          Bill Quango MP says:

          For some reason, at some point, the nation decided to adopt the mindset of the Guardian.

          That is

          Everything is my responsibility except my own actions.

      • 28
        George Orwell says:

        Labour will interfere with everything the middle classes do, whilst ignoring everything the underclass does.

        It’s all in my books you know. As I keep telling you, I did warn you what the Fabians were up to.

      • 392
        Rufus Stone says:

        Good old Labour are now proposing to ban smoking in cars with kids. Is there nothing these interfering tossers won’t regulate.

        By the way, I’m a non-smoker, but should it not be the responsibility of the smoker to decide whether or not to smoke?

  6. 9
    Ed Balls says:

    I feel it is time to confess.

    It was I who let the dogs out.

  7. 10
    Jimmy says:

    We’re also lowering the voting age remember.

    • 15
      Bill Quango MP says:

      If Labour lower it to 13 at least they would be able to count on Laurie and Owen’s votes.

    • 29
      Owen Jones says:

      You intrigue me. ** Flash Smile **

    • 30
      FFS says:

      Labour: Always extending the franchise to people that don’t know what the fuck they’re doing.

      Will you be arranging postal votes?

      • 37
        retardEd Miliband says:

        We’ve alweady pwinted them!

        In fact, we’ve alweady got theven of them with your thignature on.

      • 40
        Jimmy says:

        I’m very much in favour of a maximum age for voting. Elections should not be decided by those going gaga. Polling evidence shows that the older voters get, the sillier their choices become.

        • 49
          The Labour Party says:

          You didn’t get the “one nation” memo, then?

        • 50
          Casual Observer 6 says:

          Sounds like you are in favor of a psychological test of some sort in order to pre-screen the electorate ?

          Less controversial to stick with the postal voting fraud if truth be told.

          • Jimmy says:

            No, but look at it logically. Who is more affected by the choice of the next government, someone about to leave school or someone about to kick the bucket? And yet only the latter can vote.

          • FFS says:

            How about an IQ test?
            Or length of experience of the UK?
            Or votes dependent on taxes paid?

          • Lord John Presclott says:

            Aye. But the thing you must remember me old mate, is that Labour voters are thicker than a 48 pancake stack.

            I mean.. look at me. I was considered a good choice to be deputy leader.
            Me! Dumbdick Pressa was a top man. Even sad, mad, ‘My incessant femminazi twaddle turned my husband gay’ Harman was a better choice than me.

          • FFS says:

            So if we screened out the ones that don’t really know much about the UK because they’ve only just arrived, and screened out the ones with low IQ that can’t really understand economics and such, and screened out the ones that pay no net tax because they claim full tax credits….

            ….. mmmm Labour would get 0 votes.

            Seems fair……

          • a UKIP voter says:

            How about instead of voting for parties we just get some competent management at the helm and have national votes on every descision they want to make.

          • Jimmy says:

            If you want to argue for the intellectual superiority of the right,let’s face it you may want to pick a different site. Light bends around some of the comments on here.

          • FFS says:

            No, I just want to argue for my intellectual superiority.

          • Jimmy says:

            I think you need a more realistic goal.

          • FFS says:

            I think it has gone 6 and you’ve finished work for the day at Labour HQ. I think I can have the last word.

            By the way, you’re right, I don’t need to argue.

            I am your intellectual superior.

          • Banned from voting says:

            Convicts until EU does gets its way
            U18, could be lowered to what, 24 hours.
            Nutters, depending on your definition.
            Non UK citizens. Extend the franchise? Well they could vote for politicians not do invade them on a whim. Get benefits allow the vote. Employed by UK government. Pay taxes. Resident (including holiday makers) in the weeks up to election. Speak English so can follow the arguments. Got a load of dosh so can buy a registration. Face fits.

          • Does JJJ want says:

            Award a weighted vote depending on your age and average life expectancy. I propose it be

            Vote weight = 100 minus age so
            Five year gets weighting of 95 as they have all those years to live with the consequences.

            So White Dee, off she goes to vote with her children aged 1, 2,4, 5, 8 is very well feted and comes back pregnant.

          • Js new franchise awaiting thinking says:

            Can we vote on who the politicians have to listen to or does it follow party line. This could be fun. Jimmy, Balls and Miliband get to spend most of their day with White Dee pontificating, at her place of course.

          • Vlad the Loudhailer says:

            If it was an IQ test Jimmy would fail as he doesn’t know how many feet there are in a mile.

          • Táxpáyér says:

            > Light bends around some of the comments on here.

            Often one’s written by someone called Jimmy.

            Berlin Wall’s fallen and he’s still socialist!

        • 67
          McAdder says:

          My 93 year old mother worked on Spitfires during the war and worked for most of her life after that. I think that entitles her to a vote you left-wing tw@t.

          • Jimmy says:

            Your mother was in the Luftwaffe?

          • Sir William Wayde says:

            Ed Balls’ policies are about 120 and still have life in them!

          • McAdder says:

            Fuck off and die Jimmy.

          • a UKIP voter says:

            At least Jimmy is honest about his party’s intentions. Punish the hard working by taking all their money, removing their vote then putting them on the pathway to Heaven. Jimmy and co want to engineer a Britain where all children are born to mothers like White Dee and fathers like Mark Duggan. For what end I have no idea, but it seems to be what they are about.

          • Bill says:

            Only dying people can vote? He’s lost the plot.

          • George Orwell says:

            Well it was all in my book “1984″. It started with the Fabians. They had some idea of creating a new “English Socialism” that would conquer the world with brave new ideas. The middle class would need to be controlled to force them to comply to this new belief system whilst the underclass could be left to do as it pleased.

            I anticipated that the belief system that created this ideology would gain a personality of its own, which I called “Big Brother” and most followers of “Big Brother” would follow the belief system blindly, following its demands without knowing really why. The progenitors of this belief system are long gone, but the beliefs live on forever, just as “Big Brother” lives forever.

            The followers of Fabianism will blindly continue to crush all middle-class opposition, generation by generation. All middle-class beliefs will be destroyed to make way for Fabianism. What Fabianism actually is, is forgotten. All that matters now is to focus on crushing opposition to Fabianism.

          • You vote for what says:

            You vote for somebody to represent you, except for one off especially chosen referendums.

            And even they get told what to do.

        • 96

          Elections should not be decided by those going gaga

          From 1997 to 2006, all elections were decided by those who were actually gaga, never mind going.

          Russell lived to 97 but was still in good command of his faculties until gone 90.

          So where is your magical age, my light bending friend?

          • Jimmy says:

            Of course there will be hardships, but a maximum age is no more arbitrary than a minimum age. Why should one be disenfranchised for first childhood but not second? Besides, politicians of all stripes are keen to stress that the next election as about the country’s future. For some, that is none of their business.

          • The question on the card is: So where is your magical age?

          • Bill says:

            Cool Britannia – how quaint.

          • FFS says:

            So difficult, when your are in your dotage, to be sure you don’t have enough future to bother to vote – but then I guess if you really are that decrepit you might not make it to the polling station? Labour will help you out with a postal vote of course.

            So by all means snatch the baby from the incubator and put its X on the ballot paper. After all its their future that counts, and just how much of it. Perhaps Labour would like to give babies the most votes? After all babies have the most future (although I did rather think an election is just for 5 years, but maybe Labour have plans to extend it? Maybe we’ll get only one vote in our lifetime shortly after birth)

            Far be it from me to suggest that an election is about being able to distinguish between crap policies and good policies. No, no, Labour supporters don’t really believe that is necessary (just as well….)

            So Jimmy, you argue that voting should be all about just how much skin you have in the game. You know what, I agree with you. Last year I paid £18,000 in PAYE alone. I think I have a considerable amount of skin in the game don’t you? So how about you give me more votes? I plan to be around for quite a while yet – I’m a babe of 49.

            More tax paid – more skin in the game – more votes. Sounds fair.

          • Fine Jimmy.

            I did study maths at school and, with this advantage, have calculated that, from your figures, the right to vote should therefore be withdrawn permanently at the age of four.

          • Jimmy says:

            Withdrawing the right in 2001?

            You may have something there.

          • @Jimmy.

            Unlike the denizens of Central Glasgow who struggle to reach the average age of 54 (Ah! Do I see the Labour secret plan at last? Glasgow Pathway?), I hope you live to well over your three score and ten and continue to torment us here in traditional style.

            Should you indeed be that fortunate, I feel some sympathy for you that you will have only witnessed four short Golden Years.

            Had your plan taken form, as I had interpreted it, then you would not have had the satisfaction of feeling you had actually contributed to it with your vote, which would be sad indeed

          • Nanny State says:

            Past your bedtime Master Jimmy. Off you toddle. Nanny will be up shortly with your bedtime story.

          • Niall Eastick-Tendencies says:

            So A-ndy Bury’am was using Mid Staffs to gerrymander votes.

    • 242
      NE Frontiersman says:

      So it would only make sense to lower the age of consent in tandem, wouldn’t it?

    • 260
      Does Jimmy know what he gets? says:

      What ever Jimmy has voted is his secret, but is it as he expected? Think recently about 1997, 2001, 2005.

  8. 11
    Anon. says:

    Labour Party Councillor for Whitby.

    • 18
      Dontvoteforanyofthem says:

      If that nutter were in UKIP, he would be top billing all over the news. However when nutters are members of the “establishment” parties, the news channels are not interested.

      • 44
        Keep Calm, Vote UKIP says:

        The alliance with G’rillo’s Five Star would be a good move if G’rillo is up for it.

        UKIP need ways of getting their message across to younger people and cut through the socialist mind-control that is neutering the minds of the young today.

        5 Star’s secret: They figured out how to get the debate going, and make it interesting. Maybe harder in the UK as folk are generally more antisocial and reserved, but there is no reason why it shouldn’t work.

        As a bloc vote – !taly is perhaps the country immediately after UK ready to leave. There is no reason why they should continue to be hobbled by the failed EU monetary policies.

        Queue the left bringing the black shirts, Mussol!ni and fascism out the closet. Then at least we can get down to some hard historical fact debate. That could go into territory before considered sacrosanct and unquestionable… ;-)

        Vote UKIP.

      • 100
        CYNICAL OLD GIT says:

        VOTE KLINGON

    • 51
      Jimmy says:

      If he sees imaginary aliens everywhere then he should be in UKIP.

      • 57
        The Labour Party says:

        He should be in UKIP even if he doesn’t see imaginary aliens everywhere.

        Let’s face it – UKIP are going up in the polls, and we’re going down.

      • 104
        Jack Ketch says:

        The aliens around hers are NOT imaginary! A MONGOLIAN family applied for social housing at Medway Home Services this week–WTF are Mongolians doing here?

      • 147
        Next Tudor says:

        Before 1960 perhaps latter all parties only, except of the left, accepted UK independence. Left wanted total domination from outside EU. Even now no party knows what it wants one way or another.

      • 265
        Vetted by Labour to appear says:

        With Labour being a control freak party organization this man was vetted beyond nth degree. This is normal for Labour Party HQ. Look at Miliband. Humanoid. Jimmy should hedge his bets and go along with UKIP. It could all turn out for the best.

  9. 12
    Mitch says:

    I don’t think many ‘young people’ need advice on sex these days tbh.

    • 77
      thier future is as bleak as thier past says:

      Sex education should just be an hour watching Benefits Street so they understand the consequences of plopping out babies and living on the dole. Far from the life of idle luxury the media claim it to be, its a life of permanent stress, financial insecurity and endless meddling from social workers.

    • 273
      A Cooper personal complaint says:

      Is Cooper complaining about what happened or is happening to her. Something is lacking either way.

  10. 19
    i don't n eed no doctor says:

    Did Harriet Harman write the press release?

  11. 20
  12. 21
    cep says:

    Rat faced harridan.

  13. 23

    Comprehensive Sex Skools. Innit?

  14. 27
    François Hollande says:

    My dear friend Ed Balls.
    Why have you announced 50% tax rates?

    Have you not been watching the socialist experiment I’ve been conducting? Only last week I had to come out and say I was abandoning the socialist nonsense and adopting sensible fiscal policies.

    • 47
      Ed Balls says:

      Dear François,

      Because I work for the Conservative Party. My job is to make Labour completely unelectable, ensuring a Conservative victory in 2015.

      Judging by the polls, I’m doing a good job.

      Ed.

    • 214
      Niall Eastick-Tendencies says:

      You’re doing a great job Francois. Plenty of well off froggy friends now living in London and using loads of taxis.
      Cushtie.

  15. 31
    Casual Observer 6 says:

    Surely net p0rn has taught the little scamps more than they really should ever have known ? Sex Ed in School: Use Google. Done.

    • 38
      FFS says:

      I had to explain to my young sons that women are not quite so keen on anal sex as is suggested in videos by “Brazzers”……

      In fact I went the whole hog and told them women much prefer Belgian chocs to man sausage.

      • 65
        Casual Observer 6 says:

        I must admit am not keen on kids getting their hands on p0rn, but until the fad passes that is going to be the case.

        Unless Yvette – to your point – is going to be introducing topics onto the syllabus to counter those distortions.

        Perhaps she is really advocating such enlightened and progressive new syllabus topics as: ‘Brazzers isn’t real. Look at how Ed and I do it. Wifey’s world is much more the ticket. Don’t forget the Lasange honey.’

        • 66
          Casual Observer 6 says:

          - And that would probably be sold as key stage 7 or something…

          • FFS says:

            They soon lose interest in watching hairy middle-aged men porking oily MILFs. From their perspective it’s all a bit bizarre.

            It’s quite a relief to see that you don’t need to deal with having a son that’s gay anyway. It’s difficult to supress one’s delight at finding hetero p0rn on your son’s laptop.

            As you say, relationships are not about sex. They are about Location, Location, Location, Grand Designs, the free food magazine from Sainsburys and endless DIY. I don’t suppose these relationship lessons cover that.

            The left love the idea of getting youngsters obsessed with sex by talking about it continuously and then spend the rest of the time complaining that too many young men are obsessed with sex and treating women as sex objects. Go figure.

          • Casual Observer 6 says:

            The only thing that would irritate me if I had a gay child would be if they were over the top with it, and trying to ram it down other peoples throats etc. Discovering gay p0rn in the case of a young child would impress me less than hetero, unless it was a female child.

            Finding on the laptop is one thing – what gets on my tits (pardon pun) is when the little scamps are giving it large on a mobile device with the volume up on a train.

            Time and place is perhaps a good lesson for life.

            Would be wary of the location location location / materialist consumer sentiment you expressed. May not be aware, but that is a very Marxist way of thinking. All of that is b/s anyway – except for the finding shelter bit ;-)

            Why not a bit of romance and respect. That did us well to date, and has only recently changed…

          • FFS says:

            It may be Marxist, but it is also a consequence of the female preening/nest building instinct.

            Most of my 20 years with my wife was spent funding and devoting time to her nestbuilding/preening instincts.

            We are no longer together.

          • Emily Wankhurst says:

            What is wrong with nestbuilding or preening, the more especially where kids are involved?

            Of course, you were not to blame for your break-up, were you?

          • FFS2 says:

            What ended our marriage was my wife telling me she was ill for 7 years and lying in bed, apparently unable to stand. Many doctors tried to find out what was wrong with her. They failed. They failed because it turned out there was nothing wrong with her. She was lying. She just couldn’t be bothered – preferred to watch daytime TV while I held down a job and looked after our kids as well as keeping the house as she wanted it.

            So I lost respect for her, and left her where she wanted to be while I fucked around with other women. To hell with her, lazy, lying bitch. I’m sure there are better women out there but I’m damned if I am going to risk getting inolved with them after that experience. Life’s too short.

          • For an empiricist, you do not appear to rely on a very big sample…

          • FFS2 says:

            Well one of the things I learned through what was a more complicated experience than detailed here, is that “true love” is only discovered after you have been through trauma together.

            It’s easy to show one’s good side when life is running smooth. Easy to give the impresson of being funny, caring, sexy when not under pressure. Easy, therefore, to marry someone that will let you down when you need them most. Some weaknesses you can cope with, other weaknesses you cannot, and this applies to both sides.

            So, finding the right one is purely a numbers game. Having got it wrong the first time, my chances of getting it right at the second attempt are only 50%. There are ways of finding happiness that don’t rely on playing such poor odds.

          • The first forty years are normally the worst.

          • Táxpáyér says:

            50% of psychopaths are women.

        • 380
          Ma Fioso says:

          Anyone guess what size brazzers Dee has to buy?

    • 39
      Mitch says:

      What’s wrong with a lad and a lass finding out for themselves with each other? Is there not a sweet romanticism in that? What’s it got to do with the state?

      • 45
        A Registrar says:

        The state must approve of all relationships.

        A certificate will be provided in due course

      • 381
        Ma Fioso says:

        Nothing – so long as the rest of us don’t have to pay for the unintended consequences for the following 20 years.

  16. 32
    retardEd Miliband says:

    I am thuwounded by thtupid people.

  17. 33
    Hoddy says:

    Probably 1 of those Freudian slip things.
    I mean when you are faced with the choice of sweaty red faced Ed Balls or cheep finger diddle I guess she is entitled to make a mistake

  18. 34
    Ugleeee says:

    She would make a dildo go limp.

  19. 42

    A C Grayling. Met him at conference some years ago.

    Good bloke. They are not all raving loonies!

    • 52
      FFS says:

      A Guardian-reading atheist in the manner of Dawkins. Got no time for him at all.

      • 68

        Fair dos. Matter of choice.

        I read the Guardian on-line. Would never have bought it though. But I read all sources. I do not see Guardian-reading as being fatal to my interest but again, matter of choice.

        Non-theism best describes my view. I am not a radical atheist but can entertain doubt. No one I know is perfect so why should I be?

        Agnosticism does not describe my view either. I just think that my thinking time can be better spent on other matters. Again, matter of choice.

        In my experience you can often learn a lot from people who do not share your own views. That does not mean you have to accept theirs. You may just find a more coherent reason to hold yours.

        Not to listen to others who clearly have good brains seems to me to be cutting yourself off from opportunities to gain in understanding.

        Matter of choice.

        • 103
          FFS says:

          I’m a deist. I believe in a metaphysical purpose to life.

          AC Grayling was a regular contributor to CiF. When I posted on CiF (under the moniker “Sinik”) I regularly sliced and diced him. Fair play to him, he did sometimes drop below the line (usually because I got right under his skin I think), but apart from that he isn’t up to much.

          Like Dawkins he is one of those atheists that conjures absolute morality out of thin air as a matter of what can best be described as “convenience”. They both more or less believe in everything said in the New Testament says, with the word “God” carefully crossed out. What exactly is the point of declaring yourself an atheist if you are going to behave as if you are a devout Christian? As I said to you at the weekend, one’s stated beliefs and one’s actual beliefs can be different….

          He does not have a first class brain, that’s for sure. But if your opinions happen to align with his, you may not have noticed.

          • a UKIP voter says:

            Religion has nothing to do with morality. Logic dictates morals not sky pixies. Its logical not to steal and kill because the consequenses of these actions is bad. Just like the reason we have such strict safety regulations for aircraft. Do we take aircraft safety seriously because we want to appease a sky pixie or because we don’t want planes falling from the sky?

          • Dr Doom says:

            Voila got the pretentious twat in one. Third rate mind.

          • Bill says:

            Religion can dictate morals to the illogical person.

          • FFS says:

            “Logic dictates morals”

            And the logic, if there is no God and no afterlife, and no metaphysical purpose to life, is to simply rob a bank, take loads of drugs and have loads of sex for cash. For an atheist we are all just bio-mechanisms, emotions are outputs automatically produced according to inputs. You’ve got one life as an atheist, make the most of it. Don’t piss about wasting that one life talking politics with strangers on the net.

            That kind of atheist I have respect for. They do what they say, follow their real beliefs. Atheists that behave like Christians are saying “I don’t believe in God” and then acting like they believe in god. Fuck them I say.

          • @FFS (second try)

            Ѕtіll ѕоrе, аrе yоu? :-)

            Nоtіcе yоu fаіlеd tо rеѕpоnd tо thе lаѕt pоіnt І mаdе оn Ѕаturdаy (аnd hаvе juѕt chеckеd bаck fоr thе ѕаkе оf rіgоur!)

            Grаylіng dоеѕ nоt hаvе а fіrѕt clаѕѕ brаіn. Yоu ѕаy. Thаt іѕ аn оpіnіоn whіch І ѕhаll nоt dеny yоu but І dо nоt аgrее wіth. Hіѕ vіеwѕ оn pоlіtіcѕ аnd fаіth dо nоt mаkе аny dіffеrеncе tо hоw І rаtе hіѕ аbіlіty tо rеаѕоn оr tо run а unіvеrѕіty аnd аrе аctuаlly ѕubѕtаntіаlly dіffеrеnt tо mіnе іn аrеаѕ. Yоu wіll hаvе tо fіnd аnоthеr prеtеxt tо put mе dоwn, І аm аfrаіd.

            Yоu run а rіѕk оf bеtrаyіng yоur nееd tо аppеаr ѕupеrіоr by fаіlіng tо prоvіdе rеаѕоnеd аrgumеnt. Mоѕt fоlkѕ cаn аgrее оvеr thе gеnеrаl wіѕdоm cоntаіnеd іn thе Tеn Cоmmаndmеntѕ, fоr еxаmplе, wіthоut hаvіng tо bеlіеvе іn thе Vіrgіn bіrth, thе Rеѕurrеctіоn оr thе wоrld bеіng mаdе іn ѕеvеn dаyѕ, tо pіck juѕt а fеw оut оf thоuѕаndѕ.

          • @FFS (third try)

            Ѕtіll ѕоrе, аrе yоu? :-)

            Nоtіcе yоu fаіlеd tо rеѕpоnd tо thе lаѕt pоіnt І mаdе оn Ѕаtυrdаy (аnd hаvе juѕt chеckеd bаck fоr thе ѕаkе оf rіgоur!)

            Grаylіng dоеѕ nоt hаvе а fіrѕt clаѕѕ brаіn. Yоu ѕаy. Thаt іѕ аn оpіnіоn whіch І ѕhаll nоt dеny yоu but І dо nоt аgrее wіth. Hіѕ vіеwѕ оn pоlіtіcѕ аnd fаіth dо nоt mаkе аny dіffеrеncе tо hоw І rаtе hіѕ аbіlіty tо rеаѕоn оr tо run а unіvеrѕіty аnd аrе аctuаlly ѕubѕtаntіаlly dіffеrеnt tо mіnе іn аrеаѕ. Yоu wіll hаvе tо fіnd аnоthеr prеtеxt tо put mе dоwn, І аm аfrаіd.

            Yоu run а rіѕk оf bеtrаyіng yоur nееd tо аppеаr ѕupеrіоr by fаіlіng tо prоvіdе rеаѕоnеd аrgumеnt. Mоѕt fоlkѕ cаn аgrее оvеr thе gеnеrаl wіѕdоm cоntаіnеd іn thе Tеn Cоmmаndmеntѕ, fоr еxаmplе, wіthоut hаvіng tо bеlіеvе іn thе Vіrgіn bіrth, thе Rеѕurrеctіоn оr thе wоrld bеіng mаdе іn ѕеvеn dаyѕ, tо pіck juѕt а fеw оut оf thоuѕаndѕ.

          • FFS2 says:

            can’t respond here?????

          • Understand and sympathise, even if I don’t always agree with you.

            Try posting it in bits at a time.

          • FFS2 says:

            I will try to summarise:

            Last thread – you win. Didn’t see you come back, had moved on.

            Grayling – basic uni idea good – but should be half the price not double. His Guardian comments pretty bad though.

            Sorry if I come across superior – trying out some ideas for a website. Honing them on other people’s blogs.

            General wisdom of the 10 Commandments? Sure we can agree on them now. Before, the Romans believed in rather different morality….

          • OK Thanks.

            And I am not out to win anything actually. Rather to encourage rational thinking within groups who have little mental space available, due to the fact that they are working their butts off to break even.

            Had clocked that you were definitely not a socialist and you do possess a good brain, having probably experienced a good education.

            I find it interesting how different backgrounds can produce intelligent people with vastly differing opinions.

            Underneath it all there may be some truth. Maybe it can be acquired by non-dialectical means although we should not be frightened off by Hegel, IMO.

            On Ten Commandments, I should perhaps had specified 6-10 and not 1-5. But I was off to dinner so it was a bit rushed! Apologies.

            I always preferred the Greeks, despite some severe limitations there but they started the whole thing off, as you will well know.

            St Thomas Aquinas really re-wrote Aristotle for the Catholic church, again IMO.

            Look forward to seeing your blog. Let’s keep arguing! :-)

          • FFS2 says:

            Ah yes the Greek. The Romans liked them. They especially liked the Epicureans. They really took it to the max. Dante was not so keen he stuffed them all in trhe 6th circle of hell. But I can at least relate to the Roman version of Epicureanism “Fuck the afterlife, lets have a real good time!”. All ended in tears of course. Practically begging for the Christians to take over at the end of it all……

            No, I’m not a Marxist. Don’t believe in the Marxist Dialectic. I am amused by the fact that if he had tweaked the first stage to match reality he would have probably ended up at Thatcherism – maximum property ownership by the individual. Either that or that material history changes but human society does not – the alpha males still end up running the show, just as since the dawn of time.

            I’m not afraid of dialectics, but I have seen the key is always to frame the question correctly first. The Marxists always present each problem as a very narrow false dichotomy. Thus today there is only Marxism and anti-Marxism. Stepping further back gives the truth in most matters.

          • frame the question correctly

            Exactly.

        • 144
          FFS says:

          “Its logical not to steal and kill because the consequenses of these actions is bad.”

          So basically you would murder someone if you thought you could get away with it?

          You’re mad, bad and dangerous to know.

          • a UKIP voter says:

            How did you extrapolate that from what I said? I fail to see how getting away with theft or murder in anyway makes the consequenses of such actions acceptable.

          • FFS says:

            What I’m saying is that if there were no bad consequences, you would consider murder if sufficiently motivated.

            I’m guessing you don’t really mean that, but your words say that. Try expressing yourself differently.

            In the meantime I believe I am hungry. I can make the words “I am not hungry” appear at the keyboard, but the reality of my beliefs are causing me to act appropriately. I’ll be back later, having followed the truth of my beliefs to their natural conclusion….

          • a UKIP voter says:

            You understood me the first time. I would kill if I could get away with it. But I would only kill people I thought God hated too, so I’d be fine in the next life.

        • 360
          Táxpáyér says:

          Fundamentalist agnostic here.

    • 54
      Casual Observer 6 says:

      A few bad apples spoil the barrel.

      But when the apples are foaming at the mouth and braying like donkeys after a Revd Flowers rave, the voices that make sense are lost in the wash.

      The saner section of the left have the same problems as the rest of us with their insane peers methinks.

      • 73

        They were foaming at Grayling a while back for sure.

        • 179
          Casual Observer 6 says:

          I agree with your analysis completely.

          Perhaps some of us on the right should transition to the left to help those guys out ?

          I mean – trade of a little of the elite holding means of production for people, but keep the libertarian bit preserved, with a healthy dose of vitriol and common sense against those who think they are smart.

          The A’lex J’ones clip yesterday about political persecution of movie directors currently going on in the US made that point : As a Dem, he was expressing sentiment to go to the aid of the Republican’s who are being attacked at the moment as it is not right.

          It is just difficult to find anything in Left ideology which does not lead to genocide as a conclusion which is what puts me off of this idea.

          • It is interesting to note who can become Libertarian when their ground starts to be trampled on by others. A critic could claim that is a bad reason but it is not until one is confronted with calamitous decision making that things begin to clarify. Many roads lead to Rome, all of them someone said…

            The fundamental ideas which work transcend normal politics for many.

            As to your last point, did you see those figures on life expectancy in the Calton area of Glasgow. Not very new (2008) but scandalous. The Glasgow Pathway.

          • Táxpáyér says:

            The path to true libertarianism should be easier for lefties as it’s destination is Georgism.

            Try telling some on the right that Adam Smith and Ricardo, not to mention Churchill aren’t communists for advocating a tax on land.

    • 286
      How to stop males thinking about sex yC-B says:

      The above tread must of kept the above contributors and readers from thinking or doing sex 5-28 to 7-35 late. Cooper may mangle it into her new sex curriculum.

  20. 46
    Anonymous says:

    Are they going for the jimmy savile fan club

  21. 56
    Ed the Eunuch says:

    It is time to get rid of the dim witted MPs that make up the Labour Party. They are so dim they need an instruction manual on how to change a lightbulb.

    • 60
      The Labour Party says:

      We’re so dimwitted we don’t think we overspent when we were in government, even though the money ran out.

      In fact, we don’t think we spent enough.

      “Vote Labour. Next time, we’ll be even worse.”

      • 181
        Cinna says:

        Surely it’s only the Labour Party that can truthfully use the slogan, “vote early, vote often )as often as you like)”

      • 293
        Gov % > ed,trans+Def Budget says:

        Before the money runs out Labour will discover they have no choice on what they spend it on.

        Interest will be greater than Education and Transport and Defence budget.

        Come the next bust of the business cycle, sorry brown,balls,miliband you do not abolish it, our debt, thanks, will be a burden too far.

  22. 70
    Yvette says:

    Have you seen my balls?

  23. 71
    Sunderland is a Labour ghetto thats why its shyte. says:

    No wonder this countries moral fabric is torn to shreds,here we have the largest number of singles mothe almost all living on benefit which they spend on pies,tattoos,lottery cards etc,they have their rent,council tax,dental and prescriptions,free dinners et al.They are eductionally low grade will never work and are content to wallow in this state,sex education my arse!

    • 84
      thier future is as bleak as thier past says:

      They also produce a large amount of mixed mongrel kids who will grow up to reject the colour that raised them and embrace the colour that abandoned them at birth.

  24. 75
    Bill Quango MP says:

    lessons in Labourspeak.

    - socialist rhyming slang –
    Mao Zedong:

    As in – “Its all gone a bit Mao Zedong”

    • 148
      Del boy says:

      Myleene’s Tweets = Myleene Klass – benefits class
      Myleenes tweets > benefits street , also known as labour voters.

  25. 90
    White Dee says:

    An illiterate class that only knows how to breed will always vote Labour.

  26. 92
    The British media are cunts says:

    Nice to see the BBC still sticking up for Labour, it doesn’t matter what good news we get about the economy, the BBC still spins lies for Labour.

    Perhaps the BBC might like to remind us who was at the wheel of HMS GB when her economy was run aground?

  27. 97
    Moley says:

    Compulsory Sex?

    Obviously Labour are preparing for coalition with the Liberal Democrats.

    • 107

      The socialist ideal is where everything which is not actually prohibited is compulsory.

      We can see where this is going. When they realise that this has gone horribly wrong, then they will make all sex illegal (except for themselves, of course).

  28. 99
    Prime Minister David Cameron says:

    Horrible, horrible news about the economy, the poor will suffer as a result of this news.

  29. 101
    Wait - what! says:

    Will somebody stop the grotesque husband of this person from appearing on my telly please?
    He is a veritable saint according to the BBC and an up and coming fiscal genius if you watch Sky.
    Both networks are sliding in to a festering mire of dung.

  30. 112
    White Dee says:

    Who’d like to get sex education from me?

  31. 114
    Mike Hancock says:

    I think sex with vulnerable constituents should be compulsory.

  32. 116
    Genghiz the kahn says:

  33. 123
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    Deseprate scraping of the barrel here.

  34. 128
    White Dee says:

    Benny is the love of my life. All my needs are fulfilled by Benny.

  35. 146
    The British media are cunts says:

    The BBC’s favourite lefty cuunt socialist 8illy Bragg was just in the BBC news singing or should that be murdering a song about where have all the young girls gone.

    Well judging by the BBC probably into the dressing room of a BBC pervert to be molested with the full knowledge of the BBC whilst fat lazy plod does fuck all.

  36. 156
    • 177
      Casual Observer 6 says:

      Sweet.

      So we can now hire mercs to deal with Dave and the other arse holes in Parliament.

      Whoever said the free market was a bad thing ? Labour.

  37. 157
    nell says:

    labiur this last week or so look like a party who have suspended reality.

  38. 161
    Anonymous says:

    #LabourMP4BenefitsStreet. #NoHope #Wibble

    • 172
      Ed Millionaireband says:

      Its the Cwotht ov Wiving Cwithis!

    • 182
      CYNICAL OLD GIT says:

      Jesus H Christ there’s that word again , a COMPULSORY jobs guarantee scheme, just who is going to be compelled to guarantee these jobs , the jobs fairy , financed by the magic socialist money tree no doubt .

      • 192
        Ed Miliband says:

        In the October 1921 issue of the English Labour Monthly, (George Bernard) Shaw wrote that “Compulsory labour, with death as the final penalty. . . is the keystone of Socialism”.

        Let’s Bring Back Socialism!!

        • 195
          Ed Miliband says:

          (Note how Socialism is completely different to National Socialism, by the way.)

        • 249
          NE Frontiersman says:

          192: ‘From each according to his ability’ puts it so much more nicely, surely? But credit to GBS for saying it straight. And who works out what one’s ‘need’ is? That would surely require a large bureaucracy?

          • NE Frontiersman says:

            Somebody had their number!

            ‘Under the relentless thrust of accelerating over-population and increasing over-organization, and by means of ever more effective methods of mind-manipulation, the democracies will change their nature; the quaint old forms—elections, parliaments, Supreme Courts and all the rest—will remain. The underlying substance will be a new kind of non-violent totalitarianism. All the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days. Democracy and freedom will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial—but Democracy and freedom in a strictly Pickwickian sense. Meanwhile the ruling oligarchy and its highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought-manufacturers and mind-manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit.” – (Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Revisited, published 1958)

        • 365
          Táxpáyér says:

          Socialism is born, just as slavery is abolished…

          Not a coincidence in my book.

    • 204
      Mornington Crescent says:

      Oh, FFS – I pressed ‘pause’ after her “cost of living crisis” outburst in the first sentence. And she’s a shadow minister??

      I would, though – full of Eastern promise…

    • 246
      Niall Eastick-Tendencies says:

      No sorry, we’re still none the wiser after listening to the droning clone.
      I thought we already had a compulsory jobs guarantee. They’ve been promising that to the EU’s unemployed for the past decade.

  39. 178
    domino says:

    Yes and who will be deciding the curriculum, another bunch of deviants?

    In other news the BBC announced production of #SavileTheMusical

  40. 190
    Anon. says:

    Simon Parkes Labour Party Councillor for Whitby.

  41. 194
    Lib Dunny says:

    Every time I try and build a pension the bastards tax it. First in was Brown now the lib dems. What’s the fecking point

    Lib Dems to launch tax raid on pensions and mansions but Tories say it will hit ‘grannies who worked hard all their life’
    Treasury Chief Secretary wants new council tax rates for mansions
    Homes worth more than £5million or £10million will be put in higher bands
    Raising tax on pensions saving would also raise another £2billion

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547303/Lib-Dems-declare-war-rich-Danny-Alexander-launch-tax-raid-pensions-multi-million-pound-homes.html#ixzz2rixmIfRM
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    • 203
      Labour are cunts but I've learned to live with them. says:

      14 years ago I used to put £500 a month into my person pension, but when Brown showed us that a Chancellor could just raid the fucking thing with impunity, I stopped.

      Now, when I retire, I’m going to claim for every fucking benefit going.

      Work hard, look after yourself: get punished.

      Do SFA and expect handouts: get rewarded.

      Fine by me.

      • 285
        Niall Eastick-Tendencies says:

        Labour’s feather touch pensions regulation allowed my pension fund to be traded between City shysters, each one taking out large admin fees.
        1

    • 206
      White rabbit says:

      I received a pension statement yesterday and promptly projectile vomited over the dog. Do you think a black balaclava is a good look ?

      • 212
        domino says:

        Worked in Ukraine, of course you do need to hope they cancel Strictly, BGT, XFactor and the soaps so you’re not out on your own.

        • 383
          Ma Fioso says:

          No problem. All we need to do is direct the Romas and gyppos to the nearest tv towers/masts. Lots of lovely useful metal going spare there for their collecting purposes.

    • 366
      Táxpáyér says:

      Can sell and move somewhere smaller, that’s not so over-sized.

  42. 198
    Hey teacher !! Leave those kids alone. says:

    Expect Labour to privatise the lessons and give the contract to and old chum.
    Grope 4 Security ??

  43. 199
    LibDems says:

    We support this policy. We believe in compulsory sex wherever it’s available.

  44. 200
    White rabbit says:

    I desperately wanted sex education from my music teacher. As did all the other boys in the class, apart from one.

  45. 218
    Bundesverfassungsgericht says:

    Barroso’s and Van Rompuy’s worst nightmare coming down the tracks but I guess we’ll have to wait until April.

    http://tinyurl.com/qbyzs2m

    • 225
      Hogwarts Skool reunion says:

      Are they all about to sit down for lunch? They ave all their napkins tucked in the collars.

    • 385
      Ma Fioso says:

      Go Merky! The Krauts are now sick and tired and fed up to the back teeth of watching their hard earned cash be pissed away in the southern regions. With luck the EU could self destruct before Christmas. Now wouldn’t that be luvverly?

  46. 220
    Blowing Whistles says:

    i don’t know about you lot who read this blog – but i am sick and fucking tired of listening to the militant politicised homo mafia constantly bleating on about themselves, themselves, themselves. Can we have an olympics or other event where the obssessed homo’s don’t try and attach themselves to said event to self-publicise themselves?

    i suspect that the vast majority of the rest of the population at least 90% are sick and fucking tired of the homo poor me shit and their one eyed fucking agenda.

    • 223
      Queenie says:

      Oooo….get him!

    • 227
      On and on and on says:

      Totally fed up with it and the more they and the BBC bleat on about their homosexual agenda the more everyone gets fed up with it.

    • 236
      The Clothed Civil Servant says:

      It used to be called ‘flaunting’

    • 296
      Niall Eastick-Tendencies says:

      Don’t knock it. I’m the rear steer in the four man bob.
      You’re right though. Too much homo promo.

    • 339
      Taxpayer says:

      Quite agree

      They will end up pissing everyone off so much that there will be an ugly backlash

      Like others we know BW

      What goes around comes around

  47. 224
    Ed Wars says:
    • 229
      The great British Balls off says:

      He is a nightmare but do keep him until the election.

      Pretty please with sugar icing and a big cherry on top.

    • 241
      FFS says:

      For “leaked” read “carefully and deliberately handed”

    • 267
      Gordon Brown says:

      Say what you like about Miliband, he certainly learned a few tricks when he was one of my most trusted henchmen.

  48. 226
    President Omaha Beach state of the union address says:

    Stands up
    “We’re fucked”
    Sits down

  49. 228
    Blowing Whistles says:

    i don’t know about you lot who read this blog – but i am sick and fucking tired of listening to the “obsessed” religious mouthpieces from two particular religious groups who ‘constantly’ get upset, feel harassed, squeal like pigs, claim all manner of religious persecution at the mere drop of a hinted word, a published cartoon or a symbol which ‘they find offensive’ and then try to rally others into bleating on about their religion being attacked. Fucking Muzzies and Fucking joozs – you don’t see Christians getting all hot ‘n bothered do you – fuck off with your “Obssessivness” you two religious groups – just fuck right off.

  50. 232
    Fabians are EVIL says:

    Yvette is stupid! first he fu*ks her then the whole of the UK and still she sleeps with him

  51. 247
    RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

    STICK MY FINGERS IN MY EARS, SING TING-A-LING-A-LOO

    • 256
      Everyone except the elite says:

      It means more and foreigners being allowed into our overcrowded island to suckle off the economy we have built up over centures and give nothing much back except to place even more strain on the limited resources available.

  52. 251
    Kinnochio says:

    I’ve got my Party back !!!

  53. 264
    Sunderland is a Labour ghetto thats why its shyte. says:

    Cameron to allow 500 Syrian refugees to enter UK,future jihadist who will never leave and will probably be on benefits for their time here,a complete betrayal we have already given 600m,when will these dickheads get it into their heads the Syrian civil war is an Islamic war fuck all to do with us.

    • 268
      The British Public says:

      Syria is none of our business

    • 274
      It's always the same. A Bleeding one way ticket says:

      Why can they not be returned ?

      • 282
        Sunderland is a Labour ghetto thats why its shyte. says:

        Because thousands of Iraqis who came in 1991 and 2003 are still here same with the Somalis.

        • 302
          The public says:

          As are all the Vietnamese, the Chileans, the Darfuris, the Rwandans, every other fashionable left wing cause and Uncle Tom Cobbly and all.

          • Regain our English Boarders says:

            Don’t forget our more local problem with Irish, Welsh and Scottish here there and everywhere.

          • One Man One Vote says:

            English, Irish, Welsh and Scots have built this country together.

            Sadly, the devolution nonsense, localisms posing as ‘nationalism’ and the grossly unfair constituency gerrymandering has caused great unfairness and stirred up tensions needlessly.

      • 289
        McAdder says:

        Not only will they not return but,soon, many of them will be outside their embassy demonstrating against us.

    • 300
      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      Syria is a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia – Iran supports Assad and his Shi’a colleagues. Saudi (and Qatar for that matter) support extremist Sunni rebels.

      Let them sort it out themselves

    • 335
      IMore than one way to skin a cat says:

      The truth is that it would be cheaper to book them into a Qatar hotel for the duration, no strings attached

  54. 281
    Whatever happened to... says:

    Ellie Gellard?

  55. 292
    Anonymous says:

    Toby Young ‏@toadmeister 27 secs
    The mess the Labour government in Wales has made of education is shocking. Fewer than half of schools “good or better” says Welsh Ofsted

    • 306
      Casual Observer 6 says:

      Welsh suicide rate for young kids is also through the roof.

      That was hidden under Labour, and is a real scandal.

      • 320

        You are right and it has been reported anecdotally for some time.

        A suicide bid is often, but not always, a cry for attention. Clearly, no one in South Wales, for that is where it is prevalent, has bothered to look out for it.

        Considering they have had their own assembly and a Minister of State for over a decade now, it does not reflect well upon either.

        Most of that time was supposedly influenced by that familiar mantra: Education, Education, Education. The money was spent all right. Where is the result?

        Just think that little over a century ago, all India’s trains used to be supplied from Britain, and the track, and the sleepers, and the coal (all from Wales), and the slate for the roofs of signal boxes and stations (again from Wales).

        When that all died, they all mentally died with it.

        • 324
          My HTML has been warped by Amaretto says:
        • 328
          One Man One Vote says:

          They have their own assembly and constituency boundaries have been gerrymandered by Labour so that a Welsh vote for the Westminster Parliament is equal to two English ones. You’d think that having disproportionate political representation would make the Welsh happy.

        • 332
          White rabbit says:

          Most of the suicides took place in and around the town of Bridgend and there have been several studies and investigations into this sinister concentration of deaths. I believe no light has been thrown on this highly unusual set of personal disasters. Incidentally Bridgend is a nice town on the edge of the Vale of Glamorgan, a lovely part of South Wales.

  56. 298
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    To be known as the “Jimmy Saville Act”

  57. 301
    Ed Moribund says:

    At time of writing this post I had not seen the detailed data but it does appear that UKIP is now starting to hurt LAB quite seriously. It appears as though Farage’s party is picking up sizeable chunks of the white working class vote.

    Political betting
    28/1/14

    • 303
      Anonymous says:

      Indeed
      With the lib fuckwits in coalition with the Tories where else can they go. Eds got a serious problem because effectively there is a resurgence towards the right

      Actually to cut long story short

      Labour are fucked and they know it

    • 370
      Táxpáyér says:

      Hence the BBC keeping one rather swiftly removed “weather weirdness caused by gays” member in the news.

  58. 313
    and those left out get what says:

    Those with disabilities, shyness and generally unpopular with the girls get nothing, Cooper. How about shipping them to Amsterdam to get it regularly as you are advocating in regulating.

  59. 317
    Tosser Dave says:

    Gay sex must be included, with compulsory practical experience lessons, so that our kids can make an informed choice about their sexuality.

  60. 319
    lojolondon says:

    I may be the only one who found Clegg’s little face funny, as the leader of the LimpDims, announcing that he wants to prioritise “women at risk of sexual abuse” to be brought to the UK. Is he priming the pump for his party of misfit perverts?

  61. 321
    Fuck the LibLabCon says:

    Testing

  62. 326
    Fuck the LibLabCon says:

    It seems anything posted from my usual IP address requires moderation at the moment. The censorship on here is getting beyond ridiculous of late.

    Using a Proxy.

  63. 329
    Squeaker Bercow says:

    I am enjoying a Valasic Kosher Dill pickle, thanks to my Sally.

  64. 334
    Lard Everard says:

    LIES, DAMNED LIES & LIBDEM LIES……

  65. 346
    Mrs. Ball-Scooper, TRIPLE FLIPPER says:

    Keep up the good work, Ed.

  66. 356
    Shut The BBC says:

    The deep and ingrained nature of perversion and filth at the BBC is slowly being revealed.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/456106/BBC-embroiled-in-further-scandal-as-executive-filmed-Dutch-child-abuse-movies

  67. 363
    Anonymous says:

    In the press release, should “sex and relationship” be hyphenated?

  68. 371
    Spartacus says:

    what is with the Hugh Grant love child no three – comment page not available?

  69. 373
    hipsters, flipsters, and finger-poppin' daddies says:

    There is too much heedless reproduction going on in these isles. Public policy – that is, policy in the public interest – should be to put the kiddies off sex. What better way than to teach the subject in the schools?

  70. 386
    Anonymous says:

    I will wager the politicians children will be exempt from such madness.

  71. 387
    Truthteller says:

    Filth!!!!

  72. 391
    The Public says:

    If you ever wanted proof that the Labour party is still a pile of out of touch shit, then this policy is it.


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Sarkozy Tried it on With Hollande’s Ex | Times
Another Spare Room Subsidy Cut Success | Harry Phibbs
Rich Now Have Less Leisure Than Poor | Economist
UKIP’s Immigration Policy Promotes Migrant Entrepreneurs | Breitbart
Another Feminist Lecture | Laura Perrins
UKIP Posters Bad Economics But Good Politics | James Delingpole
Tories Losing to UKIP in Scotland | ConHome


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A confused Nick Griffin says Nigel Farage is a shill for the City, forgetting that City banks want to stay in the EU:

“Farage is a snake oil salesman, but a very good one. His supposed anti-immigration stance is all smoke and mirrors, as is his carefully cultivated image as a ‘man of the people’. The truth is that UKIP is a pro-immigration party that exists to lobby for the interests of the City of London.”



Alexrod says:

It’s money innit.


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