January 24th, 2014

Lords Kill EU Referendum Bill

Wrecking amendment after wrecking amendment laid down in the Lords today, with George “Fatty” Foulkes trying every trick in the book to stop the public from getting a say on Europe. The Tories are accusing Labour and the LibDems of organising an unofficial whipped vote against the Bill, with Bill Cash now saying it is dead. Tellingly, in a barely literate press release, Foulkes says of the filibuster amendments that he himself tabled:

“most amendments do not represtent Lord Foulkes’ [sic] opinions/wishes.”

The Tories blocking Lords reform doesn’t seem so clever now…


  1. 1
    Citizen Khan says:

    There’s only one way….vote UKIP.

    • 14
      Jack Ketch says:

      Lord Fucks has just ensured another 2 million votes for UKIP.

      • 38
        Opportunity Knocks says:

        and they are only the ex-Labour voters. Remember folks, it you at home who the final say. So vote now – vote often – vote UKIP.

        • 71
          Toxic Labour for Spongers, Parasites, Immigrants, Criminals & other Wasters. says:

          Disgusting vile Socialists. Let the eu Bureaucrat assassinations begin. If you can’t vote you have to shoot. There is no other way.

        • 108
          Tom Catesby says:

          Use your’final say’, the ballot box. It may be the last chance until even the right to vote and have your vote mean something is removed.

        • 266
          (That's enough Eds, Ed!) says:

          Who’s the totty?

      • 242
        Robert Burns says:

        Ye see yon birkie*, ca’d a lord,
        Wha struts, an’ stares, an’ a’ that;
        Tho’ hundreds worship at his word,
        He’s but a coof** for a’ that:
        For a’ that, an’ a’ that,
        His ribband, star, an’ a’ that:
        The man o’ independent mind
        He looks an’ laughs at a’ that.

        * dandy
        ** dolt

    • 31
      R. Youshore says:

      Which delivers a Lab/Lib coalition. Brilliant !

      • 40
        Lord Stansted says:

        wait and see. Vote UKIP

        • 136
          J S Mill says:

          Vote UKIP get millipede, simples.
          Unfirms for taxi drivers.
          Repaint locos
          Women whose houses are not clean enough are sluts,

          Yep one would to to be simple to vote for UKIP

          • Mike Handycock says:

            Have you got the address of these sluts?.

          • vote UKIP.... says:

            Any chance of a translation please?
            Alternatively, switch on predictive text/spell check to give us a fighting chance of understanding you.

          • Anonymous says:

            Vote UKIP & get UKIP Do you understand English J S Mill

          • Vinny says:

            @ Anonymous January 24, 2014 at 10:00 pm

            Judging from J S Mill’s post, he does not understand English; he/she certainly can’t write it.

          • gildedtumbril says:


          • Observation says:

            @JS Mill

            If you vote LibLabCon you’ll get LibLabCon, it’s pointless worrying which part of that troika sits on the “government” benches because whichever it is will just take their instructions from Brussels.

            There are two choices, LibLabCon or UK Independence, or to be more succinct, EU or UK Independence.

        • 286
          geordieboy says:

          Forcing an Act of Parliament will put the referendum back on course and thats the way to fuck the lords.

      • 42
        The only good politician is a stone-cold dead one. says:

        Labour / Conservative : two strains of the same disease.

        • 46
          Don't vote labour says:

          No just labour they killed through the back door

          They have form remember Lisbon

        • 294
          gildedtumbril says:

          Yes, two varieties of the same shit.
          UKIP(WHILE THEY STEAL) is a fake party designed for those who lack the balls to vote for the only British party.
          Farrago loves the Orient Express of gravytrains the eu, bastards.

      • 154
        I dislike socialists intensely says:

        George Foulkes is a troughing unelected Jock who has been instructed to kill
        the referendum bill denying the people of Britain a say on our future in the EU.
        I can understand the Libdems as they have always sucked up to Europe ,but
        the Labour party are just scum who put party before country .

      • 201
        Charlie says:

        You must be joking. The libdems are the worst party in years and how can you trust labour after what they have put us through. I have never been loyal to any party and don’t vote for the same party over and over again. If you do that blindly, you are a complete and utter fool.

      • 237
        Anonymous says:

        Youshore r a deluded simple fool, as most lab/lib nazis are.

      • 253
        CYNICAL OLD GIT says:

        Bollocks, vote with your conscience fuck the Eurobastards they are filthy traitors
        VOTE UKIP !!!!

      • 292
        Bill says:

        You won’t notice any difference betwen that and the present lot.

    • 78
      Geoffrey Johns says:

      Yes, Vote UKIP for sure but let’s also make sure that every Labour LD voter knows that they support parties that deny them democracy.I live in Cable’s constituency so I shall enjoy ramming that incontrovertible FACT down a few throats

      • 138
        He was as bad as Eric Joyce says:

        Lord Fucksake is a parliamentary lickspital who is wheeled out when dirty jobs and hard interviews are required. This is the price he pays for not being kicked out when he drunkenly assaulted a policeman.

      • 183
        C Lewis says:

        Yes I live in the same borough. I don’t normally vote, but it’s UKIP this time. I have had it up to here with Clegg and his goons.

    • 97
      LibLabCon Corruption update says:
    • 186
      A Taxpayer says:

      I assume they are his playmates?.

      Desperate for money is a word that cums to mind.

      The oldest profession is alive and well in the house of scum.

    • 216
      Andy T says:

      There are two ways. Vote UKIP and take over parliament. Remember what people power did when a serial gangster was shot dead by police. Well thats just a small % of the Country. If the Lords start playing tricks like this they will end up feeling people power.

  2. 2
    Anonymous says:

    It would never have happened anyway.

    Vote UKIP.

    • 20
      Omnipotent BBC says:

      And even if it did, it wouldn’t have amounted to a bag of beans.

    • 105
      Purple Pimpernel says:

      Cameron had already said (to a Spanish journo) he would ignore the result if it was in favour of OUT.

      This man and his chums cannot be trusted. The trouble is that while people who think about politics understand that, there are still millions out there in sheeple land who carry on voting for the same old party as it is what their Dad did, and they’ve done it too…

      • 126
        Anonymous says:

        Link to this interview?

        • 140
          J S Mill says:

          It’s in the pimpernels mind. It does not of course exist.
          More UKIP lies.

          • Anonymous says:

            It does exist, google it and you will find it.

            Either way, Cameron has done nothing to give us an ue referendum, and this bill is now dead, which is exactly what he wanted.

            So much for his speech a year ago.

            The man has lied again, Cameron will never give the British people a vote on this bill.

          • Vinny says:

            UKIP don’t lie, they don’t need to lie. Everyone knows what UKIP stand for.

            It is scumbag smear-spreaders such as you who lie.

  3. 3
    Back to basics says:

    Exactly as requested of mi noble luds by Dave. Much hand wringing will now go on and talk of lack of time in the parliamentary calendar.

    Yet again DC betrays his followers. A coward and shyster of obsequeously pinkish proportions

    • 7
      Anonymous says:

      “Exactly as requested of mi noble luds by Dave.”


      • 32
        Mathers says:

        Dave said he’d argue to stay in the EU – he has never said he wanted to leave.

        • 51
          Anonymous says:

          Which is not evidence that he instructed the Lords to block the bill. So, evidence?

        • 55
          Don't vote labour says:

          Labour killed it what the fuck has it got to do with Dave. He wants to stay in yes but that’s his view. He at least tried to get a referendum which is more than any of the main parties were doing so fuck right off with your Dave rant


      • 65
        Back to basics says:

        The boy has form and past performance is a truly excellent guide to future behaviour.

        Dave got caught on the hop and had to commit to a referendum to stop people voting UKIP. That was at the last election. So he promised it and then broke the promise.

        Now he’s been caught again and had to promise a referendum. Quelle surprise – this time he can’t get his promise through the Lords.

        He won’t be able to pull the referendum stunt a 3rd time. He won’t win a second term either. Voting for him, or the greasy legal slug who stands as our candidate, is simply not possible.

        Bring back Mad Maggie. At least she had BALLS.

        The EP elections are going to be huge fun. UKIPwill clean up

        • 73
          Anonymous says:

          So, no evidence for your comment, then.

          Just a liar.

          • Anonymous says:

            Dave is the only liar around here.
            A fcuking quisling as well who is more comfortable with his left leaning mates.

            The 1922 committee have to get rid of him now otherwise the Tories are out of government for the next 15 years…

          • Fish says:

            Fuck off twat. It was Labour that killed this

        • 88
          Anonymous says:

          Maggie, who campaigned to join the EEC, and pushed through the SEA, otherwise known as the biggest transfer of sovereignty to Europe?


          • Back to basics says:

            Dear oh dear. No sense of humour or deja vue?

            Actually, the biggest transfer was the Treaty of Lisbon, negotiated by TB and signed by GB. Until that time, the UK had vetos and opt outs on most things.

          • Anonymous says:

            Lisbon merely built on the principle of QMV brought in by Maggie. What vetoes and opt outs we had were the result of individual negotiations more than anything else. Without Maggie and the SEA, there would have been no Lisbon. She really was a true European.

        • 217
          Andy T says:

          Maggie started the ROT. New labour and the Coalition finished the job!

    • 141
      J S Mill says:

      Evidence daftie!

    • 212
      Psyche the Dog says:

      “The Tories blocking Lords reform doesn’t seem so clever now…” you can say that again and reform of the HoC for that matter, so who is to blame for that little oversight. As regards “George “Fatty” Foulkes” Fawkesy pot calling kettle

  4. 4
    Wait - what! says:

    They’re all in it together.

  5. 5
    lescrompsblogg says:

    Cameron and Osborne popping the champers and spanking a Lib Dem tonight then, in celebration.They’re on a win win ticket here.Over to Miliband and Balls ?? #referendumbill

  6. 6
    Jimmy says:

    Perhaps the Commons can send them another imaginary bill to play with instead.

  7. 8
    Champagne Socialist says:

    Ahh democracy don’t you just love it. Drink darling ? Chin chin.

  8. 9
    C.O.Jones says:

    Well, you know what to do, the european elections in May will give you an opportunity to tell these undemocratic twats what you think of them.

    Vote UKIP in May.

  9. 11
    Rickytshirt says:

    There’s really no excuse for not voting Ukip now.

    • 21
      tigerowl says:

      Workers rights and women’s rights. That’s just two reasons not to vote UKIP.

    • 22
      The Labour Party says:

      That’s our cunning plan, suckers!

    • 23
      Anonymous says:

      Apart from the fact that all it will do is hand more seats to Miliband. But perhaps that’s your plan?

      • 36
        FFS says:

        He’s going to win anyway. Do you think Cameron the Crap is going to stop him? He’s less popular than he was the last time he didn’t win. I’m not even sure he wants to stop him.

        Even in the unlikely event that Cameron did get back in, the Tories let in 176,000 immigrants last year and have just opened the door to many more – they are just the same as Labour.

        Wise up.

        • 54
          Anonymous says:

          If he will win anyway, no point in voting for UKIP then.

        • 87
          Back in the real world says:

          I agree that Miliband will win. Which is why I’m going to vote in a way that seeks to reduce his majority as much as possible, and not for a party of rather nasty people that is unlikely to win a single seat.

          • Anonymous says:

            How can they be kingmakers if Ed will win? He’ll have a majority with no need for a kingmaker party.

          • Anonymous says:

            Conservatives are splitting the UKIP vote, that’s what you should focus your donkey voting mentality on.

            Cameron wants to stay in the EU, voting for him only hastens the final surrender of the UKs sovereignty to the EU.

            Anything else is superfluous.

  10. 12
    Neil Kinnock says:

    I’ve done very well out of Europe. I’ve done all right! I’ve done all right!

    • 18
      C.O.Jones says:

      For someone who has never achieved anything you have done very well indeed.

      • 96
        Back to basics says:

        Come, come CO Jones. He got his wife on the EU payroll, the accounts still haven’t been signed off and his son is married to the Dannish PM. Surely that counts for something – possibly odious but definitely something.

        (No Neil/Ed/Manuel/Herman et al. Only slimeballs could try to claim that heavily Qualified, single entry book keeping based accounts are ‘signed off’.)

    • 102
      Village Idiot says:

      ……”House of Lords”, House of vested interests, House of traitors, House of dictators

      ….Take your pick,as one of them is true!

      …..Democracy is such a nuisance,the people are too stupid to make this decision is what I am getting from watching the ahem, lords!

      …….UKIP it is then!

    • 180
      The Queen says:

      And me, all those lovely grants to run my and my Norman Barons on the estates they stole over eight hundred years ago

  11. 12
    Persona non grata says:

    Well the only option left open to those that truly desire a referendum, is to vote for a party that will, no if’s or but’s, guarantee one.

    • 27
      Anonymous says:

      No one can guarantee one. The Lords could strike out the next proposal just the same as this one.

      • 37
        FFS says:

        Vote UKIP and you don’t need a referedum. They will just take us out.

        • 98
          Back in the real world says:

          Indeed, assuming UKIP forms the government. Which it won’t. So the best hope is a referendum. Unless of course you’re one of those Kippers that is scared of a referendum…

        • 298
          gildedtumbril says:

          They will take you nowhere. They love the eu.

      • 41
        C.O.Jones says:

        The Lords can be overruled by the HoC. They have been a couple of times in the past but for some reason the HoC does not tend to do this.

        Very expedient when you want the people to think that their elected government were overruled, blame someone else when in reality it is the result you wanted in the first place.

        • 63
          Anonymous says:

          Because it applies only to certain types of Bills. Of which this isn’t one. And won’t be if it were a UKIP proposal either. So, still no guarantee.

      • 235
        non taxable pikey says:

        Then it’s time to strike out the Lords.

  12. 15
    Foureyed English Genius says:

    Time for the revolution, methinks.

  13. 16
    Chris Davies says:

    Who wants a golden shower?

  14. 17
    AJC says:

    Who are those half-cut women?

    • 24
      Eagle eyed says:

      Just checked the picture, and yes, the one on the left is a woman.

      • 53
        Lord Stansted says:

        and I think the one in the centre is one too – half cut mind you. Vote UKIP next May.

      • 179
        Tom Catesby. says:

        The one on the left looks tasty, but I’m no judge.just a dirty old sod.
        like a lot of judges I suppose.

  15. 19
    Anoldun says:

    That is indeed why the Hereditary Peers were ousted, so that these lot could “have their way”. HOWEVER, (and isn’t there always a “however”? ) We must indeed use the General Election in 2015 as the referendum we have been denied since 1975 and only vote Political Parties and Organisations that want OUT OF THE EU. There is absolutely no point in voting for any of those major three that want to remain in the EU-forever, as long as they can still have their money and vast expenses. Me thinks they take us all for fools!

  16. 25
    General Pinochet says:

    Spineless Wankers………they deserve a strong right wing party taking votes across the spectrum. Proportional representation will come to the great British electorate…….you can’t have a party like UKIP potentialy poling more than 20% in a first past the post system & not getting a proportional amount of seats. The system needs to change or we are stuck with Labcon……….no difference between them so effectively a dictatorship. Augusto loves dicatarshops. Back in Chile, in the good old days, dictators like me were popular. But here in UK……I don’t think so. What we need is Senor Farage………

    Vote UKIP while you still have a vote!

    • 67
      Out of here says:

      If you get labour as a result your vote will be worthless anyway
      Better to emigrate probably

      • 207
        Anonymous says:

        Labour will win anyway.
        There is no way the Tories can win with their current policies.

        Better to focus on a two election strategy, and vote UKIP until the Tories realise they need to bin Dave and take up the Eurosceptic mantle and fight the 2nd GE on a better of out campaign basis.

        Then and only then, they might win.

  17. 28
    AJC says:

    Did anyone – the Kinnochs for starters – speak and declare a financial interest ?

  18. 29
    The only good politician is a stone-cold dead one. says:

    They think the public can’t be trusted with a referendum, but the Lords were happy enough to sponge £300 each off us for the ‘work’ they did today.

  19. 30
    Let 'em eat cake even as the tumbrils approach in the distance says:

    The people have spoken but the unelected House of Lords tells them that they are not entitled to an opinion. This must be the most short sighted thing the Lords have done…it will play and play in the right wing press and within the Tory Party and almost guarantee UKIP victory in the European Elections and the guaranteed wipe out of LibDems in the elections..truly they are now the most detested party both North and South of the border

  20. 33
    i don't n eed no doctor says:

    I happened to click on the parliament channel where Neil Kinnock was speaking in the Lords. What a shit faced arsewipe wanking bile faced tosser he is.

    • 58
      AJC says:

      Taffy was a Welshman, Taffy was a loquacious thief;

      Certainly applies to the Kinnocks. Did he mention his obligation to support the EU?

    • 99
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      Sir, I feel you are doing shit faced arsewipe wanking bile faced tossers a great disservice.

  21. 34
    Tin foil top hat says:

    Words cannot express how much I detest our political class.

    The people need to speak. We need to make them listen at the ballot box.

    Vote UKIP.

  22. 35
    tigerowl says:

    A referendum in 2017. Over three years away. A bill that says it will hold a referendum, but on any changes or reforms. The bill deserves throwing out. It offered nothing. READ IT. Silly comments like vote UKIP show how little thought goes into what people blog about. When there is a referendum and that will be from who ever wins the next election, it will be a vote to stay in that wins. Reality darlings. When you remove the rhetoric and look at the facts, Britain does well in Europe and without Europe, we would be just a little island with no one to trade with. Voting just because one hates foreigners is silly.

    • 48
      Our EU membership fee: 22 billion reasons to vote UKIP says:

      “we would be just a little island with no one to trade with”

      We buy more German cars than the rest of the EU put together.

      They’re going to stop trading with us, are they?

    • 49
      C.O.Jones says:

      More rubbish.

    • 59
      FFS says:

      50% of our trade is outside the EU.

      The EU forces us to pay an extra 2.5% on all of our non-EU imports.

      Everything we get from the EU we can get from outside the EU cheaper.

      The UK is the third largest economy in the EU and the one that is growing – the EU will trade with us on our terms.

      Australia isn’t in the EU buts has more economic power and influence than any of the nations inside the EU.

      What exactly is wrong with being “just a little island”? People like you that say that “without the EU we are just a little island” are exactly the same people that say Britain is too small and insignificant to have a nuclear deterrent or a seat on the UN security council. Well tough- we’ve got both, we aren’t insignificant and we don’t need the EU round our necks weighing us down while the rest of the world moves forward.

      • 125
        Anonymous says:

        “What exactly is wrong with being “just a little island””

        Well, our standard of living, technical achievements, and business leadership all took off when we moved away from thinking of ourselves as just a small island and placed ourselves firmly in the centre of global polity, whether that be through Empire or through supranational organisations. I’d prefer not to retreat, myself.

        • 184
          FFS says:

          Good word “GLOBAL”.

          i.e. not pissing about with the parochial EU which has clearly seen better days.

      • 209
        Anonymous says:

        Over 50% of our trade is outside the EU.
        Of the less than 50% trade that is done with the EU a large percentage of it is subject to the Rotterdam effect, ie it gets shipped straight out if the EU.

        Also, only a very small % of the UKs GDP comes from exports, the vast majority is generated within the UK.

        Then finally, if it’s so important to be in the EU to sell to EU, why did Ford move their Transit van factory to Turkey from the UK, how come Korea and Japan sell us cars ?

        The truth of the matter is, we live in a global trading economy now, we simply don’t need to be a member of the EU to trade with the EU.

        We just have to make whatever widgets and cars and stuff, to EU standards and they will be happy to buy it…

        The EU is a political project masquerading as a trade agreement, the fact so many months don’t realise this is a tragedy.

    • 66
      Yurak Hunt says:

      Do fuck off, Cleggy.

    • 69
      A lesson from history says:

      BUT be that as it may the argument for British membership is being lost and this decision will move more of the electorate towards exit and damn the consequences. It’s an ill thought out move to an ill thought out Bill

    • 80
      Cost-of-Labour-crisis says:

      You are a twat beyond belief tigerowl.

    • 110
      Brewery Business says:

      You know nothing about business. I have run a business for 25 years , we trade with the whole world . My clients are not going to stop trading with us if we leave the EU.

      • 173
        Jack Ketch says:

        This is the problem with the twattering classes. Most have no idea how the outside world works apart from the odd bunk-up in a cheap holiday resort, few have had proper jobs and cannot make the connection between the creation of wealth and the disbursement of other people’s money.

    • 280
      Vote UKIP - hit them where it hurts says:

      No one hates foreigners, we do however despise the corrupt and anti-democratic institution that is the EuZone.

      Take your stupid lies back to ToryHQ.

  23. 43
    Outraged says:


  24. 45
    Guy Verhofstadt says:

    Well done lads!

  25. 47
    Gordon Brown says:

    I saved the world. £10,000 a week expenses is the least I deserve.

    • 254
      The Crazy World of Gordon Brown says:

      Your pants are on fire.


      And why are you wearing them on your head ?

  26. 50
    MB. says:

    I wonder if Labour and the Liberals will come to regret their ‘victory’, they are now going to be regularly reminded that that they are against democratic choice.

  27. 61
    EU Funded Pro-EU Troll says:

    Vote UKIP

  28. 62
    Fuck the LibLabCon says:

    UKIP just gained another 20%

    • 82
      Keep Calm, Vote UKIP says:

      Could have an interesting effect in the upcoming Manchester South by-election.

  29. 74
    FFS says:

    I’m glad it got shot down. It stops the Tories having that one last fig leaf to hide behind.

    A referendum on the EU would be plagued by every corrupt vested interest in the UK claiming if we pull out of the EU then babies in incubators will die.

    We keep voting UKIP until eventually they get elected and we get out of the EU. End of.

    • 92
      Keep Calm, Vote UKIP says:

      Well, if this is how they deal with this bill, it makes Cameron’s cast iron guarantee if he wins the next election look even cheaper than the suits he likes to wear.

      The only reason why the Lords were right to sling this back the way they have is because it was a government bill masquerading as a private members bill.

      They have called Cameron’s bluff and perhaps just cost him the election.

      Ironically they have not handed the winning votes to Miliband.

      People should think long and hard, and vote UKIP.

      • 115
        I am voting UKIP in the EU elections but can't risk it in a general says:

        You are deluded

        You will still be launching spittle at your tv screen in 40 years time trying to get out because you voted UKIP , Marxist Milliband slipped into No 10 and tied us so tightly to the EU there is no escape. By 2020 labours changes would mean we would have been using the euro for nearly 3 years.

        • 185
          FFS says:

          They will anyway!

          They are Fabians from top to bottom. The EU was THEIR invention. Do you think Cameron is the man to keep them out? He’s on their side.

        • 197
          Not You says:

          Nigel Farage, man of the people wants handguns back in the hands of the people. The man knows what people want the ability to influence politicians.
          Well done Nige.

          • Anonymous says:

            You must be a yank – Brits don’t share your gun fetish.

          • Rightwinggit says:

            I’ve got medals for shooting, the handgun shooting community in the UK was very big.

            It still is for rifles.

            Politicians like their peasants unarmed.

  30. 76
    MSM says:

    We won’t be reporting on this today, oh look Syria!

  31. 81
    Bye bye Cameron you socialist says:

    So the only solution left is to vote UKIP. Glad that’s cleared up.

    • 86
      Joe says:

      I dare say this has cleared it up for a lot of people.

    • 151
      Anonymous says:

      I know Kippers blame Cameron for everything (apart from the floods, of course), but how is the Lords kicking out the bill his fault?

      • 271
        vote UKIP.... says:

        I’m a kipper and i blame everything on Toe-nail Bliar and Golden Brown..

        Am happy to clear that up,
        Along with any doubts as to who our real foes are…

        C▼■↑ing lefties.

    • 257
      Wanna buy a fire extinguisher cheap? says:

      Oh no, not the only solution by a long chalk. Have you not been watching your tv news lately? When folk get really angry at being constantly stuffed by their devious so-called politicians just watch the sparks fly – and it only takes the tiniest of sparks to set off a major conflagration – and it seems to be happening in a number of places round the world at the moment.

  32. 85
    Meanwhile the LibLabCon are like ferrets in a sack says:
    • 93
      Anonymous says:

      Just give him a chance princess

      • 143
        Tom Catesby. says:

        All this Handycock silly work requires, is for any alleged victim to make a formal complaint to the police. such complaints MUST be investigated.

        • 155
          Do Keep up says:

          She’s already done that. The local lodge closed ranks and said no case to answer. That’s why she’s pursuing a private prosecution

      • 158
        Hancocks half hour says:

        Any chance of a quick wank ?

  33. 89
    Kinnokio rejected by the electorates 3 times sucking on the EU teat with entire family and buddies says:

    Revenge is a dish best eaten cold

  34. 90
    Tony and Cherie says:

    Cameron has to sit down with his advisors and contemplate the end of the Coalition,a cast iron guarantee that there will be an in out referendum on our membership of the EU no later than spring 2016 no negotians with the EU before the referendum.The country hasnt been consulted for nearly 40 years and what we joined then has no resemblance to what we have now.He is unlikely to get a better chance of winning a snap election now,the Liberals are in meltdow,Labour dosnt know its arse from its head and a guaranteed referendum will do for UKIP.If he dosnt then expect a Labour majority government or a LabLib Coalition which well mean the end for Gb.

    • 104
      Keep Calm, Vote UKIP says:

      The issues are now settled.

      2015 will be all about Europe.

      The only benefit to the Tories is that this gets them off the hook with the economy as a campaign issue which should start tanking about May time.

      Vote UKIP

    • 106
      I am voting UKIP in the EU elections but can't risk it in a general says:

      Agree but if he splits the coalition and does that labour , libfuckwits and a ragtag bunch of wasters would vote against. Still fecked then.

      Just give Cameron a majority, avoid the nu labour danger and demand a vote on the EU
      Then vote UKIP

      • 121
        Tom Catesby. says:

        Your stategy will be too late I think.Vote UKIP now
        and scare the f*cking shite out of the the likes of fatty f*ck now.

        • 135
          Keep Calm, Vote UKIP says:

          If Adam Alfriyie has any pride left he would look to defect to UKIP immediately.

          After this episode he, like Dave, is truly finished where he currently is, and can at least save some face by proving that he is a politician of conviction.

          The EU are making strong moves against the sector he makes money in privately – IT – so it would be in his interests.

          Vote UKIP.

          • Fly on the wall says:

            … plus crossing the floor like that would make him the first UKIP MP! There is no need to resign your seat when you cross the floor to the “other lot” so what is he waiting for? Money talks – so we’ll just watch and wait…. If he gets voted out at the next election (assuming he will be standing again) then the real mood of the country will become much clearer.

  35. 95
    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    What an obnoxious trio.

  36. 103
    Tom Catesby says:

    Vote UKIP!

  37. 111
    Will says:

    This place is like Americas tea party loads of noise and entry of rabble rousing but the reality is when it comes to the vote ukip will not get many seats. Ok if dave Cameron is bad remember voting ukip and getting labour will be worse as I am sure come a general election David miliband will be better than the Tories I don’t think so. Len mcclusky will be along with Bob crow have a field day if labour gets in it will be back to the 70,s with all the unions at number 10.

    • 160
      Eh ? says:

      Can you say that again in english thanks.

    • 170
      Office Supplies says:

      Will. In your left-hand desk drawer you will find a box of punctuation marks and capital letters. Hope this helps.

    • 182
      CYNICAL OLD MAN says:

      America’s Tea Party Republicans not only have to battle against the Democrats, but their own Party leadership! The Establishment Republicans, much like David Cameron and his “modernisers”, do everything they possibly can to obstruct Tea Party candidates being elected. Remember, Tea Party candidates are still Republican candidates but because the leadership sees them as boat rockers, upsetting the the comfortable status quo in Congress and the House of Representatives, the Republican leadership connive with the Democrats to smear them.

      It’s the Republican leadership, safely feathering its own nest, that no longer speaks for the party membership,while the Tea Party faction actually does!

    • 248
      Anonymous says:

      Will vote UKIP, thank you.

    • 283
      VOTE UKIP - The people who can spell! says:

      Vote UKIP – and learn to spell, punctuate, construct a sentence and possibly even a logical line of reasoned argument!

  38. 113
    I was Fatty Fuck's Batman. says:

    Who are the two slappers?

  39. 116

    He is laughing at 65 million people.

  40. 117
    legs & coe says:

    i love playing with my willie

  41. 119
    Optional says:

    He’s never done a day’s work in his life.

    email him. foulkesg@parliament.uk

    twitter him. @GeorgeFoulkes

    Make sure he knows.

    • 144
      Keep Calm, Vote UKIP says:

      A polite email asking him to explain the reasoning behind his actions today, and some to the point tweets may be in order.

      Beware the rules of harassment / libel etc. on electronic media.

      I for one would like to know in his release why he dropped the possessive apostrophe that should have been included on his name, in addition to the iffy spelling mistake.

      Foulkes’s – not Foulkes’

      Clearly not grammar educated.

      • 195
        Charlie says:

        Is that relevant on such an important issue on the UK?

        • 241
          non taxable pikey says:

          Most certainly.

        • 247
          Optional says:

          Yes, of course. He’s a big fish (Lord Something of Somewhere) in a small pond (HoL, Scotland). He has the time to check his grammar.

        • 260
          Fly on the wall says:

          Foulkes said Cameron is a cvnt.
          Foulkes, said Cameron, is a cvnt.

          See if you can work out the difference – and why accurate punctuation is important to properly understand what is being written.

          • VOTE UKIP - The people who can spell! says:


            It is the difference between:

            a) Knowing your shit

            b) Knowing you’re shit

  42. 120
    Anonymous says:

    one continent

  43. 122


    • 127
      • 261
        Fly on the wall says:

        On the telly today, Milipede said Dave’s numbers “do not add up”. Was he using the Ed Balls’ calculation method? Also Ed has said he will work wonders with the UK economy when they get back into power.

        … one tiny tiny problem, he was decidedly unforthcoming on just how he would do this.

        Anyone got any ideas for him?

      • 285
        Vote Labour, get fat immigrants after your tax money for bennies says:

        If I was the (rather drug-addled looking) one in the middle, I would be more concerned about being eaten by the two lardies on either side of me.

  44. 128
    Zero says:

    Dave just lost the 2015 election, it happened right here.

  45. 134
    My noble lords THIS decision is just TOO important to leave to the ill-informed British people says:

    Foulkes(Labour)still on his feet and blathering on ably assisted by Anderson(Labour)…

  46. 137
    BBC says:

    Fuck this none story we’re too busy running with the everybody’s better off story some Tory twat blurted out before putting his brain in gear.

    • 262
      Fly on the wall says:

      Please see #261, just ^^^ up there. Posted before seeing your comment so…
      …. ah sod it, just copy and paste it here:

      Fly on the wall says:
      January 25, 2014 at 3:11 am

      On the telly today, Milipede said Dave’s numbers “do not add up”. Was he using the Ed Balls’ calculation method? Also Ed has said he will work wonders with the UK economy when they get back into power.

      … one tiny tiny problem, he was decidedly unforthcoming on just how he would do this.

      Anyone got any ideas for him?

  47. 148
    Nige F. says:

    I can hear the sound of ripping of LibLabCon membership cards by the million. Thank you your lardshits, best day’s work ever!

  48. 149
    timbo46 says:

    Oh the irony! This unelected house is more of a danger to democracy than the one before it! Now seems a great time for the Tories to propose, in 2015 election manifesto that

    1. The House of Lords is scrapped.

    2. It is replaced by a fully elected chamber of Deputies, on the basis of three per county, on the first past the post system. This chamber would face elections at a time other than that of the Commons, the senior chamber. The Commons would still be able to choose its own dissolution dates.

    3. The new chamber be given powers and responsibilities identical to those of the old, hereditary House of Lords — with delaying powers only, not vetoing ones.

    • 167
      nell says:

      Do you know I think I agree with you. It might rid us of some of the worst fools that labour put in there like uddin and prescott and ffoulkes

  49. 153
    What's going on? says:

    Are you sure the referendum is bolloxed Geedo? No mention on Sky or BBC

    • 161
      My noble lords THIS decision is just TOO important to leave to the ill-informed British people says:

      I too think it’s actually NOT “killed off” as the Government Chief has just made an announcement that the House will adjourn after Amendment 48 and resume on the matter under consideration next Friday at 10am.

      Meanwhile Foulkes in another amendment has said that the electorate must be informed that any referendum is NOT a binding referenda but merely a consultative one which Parliament can ignore. He with other is also saying that there must be a threshold amendment i.e. that at least two thirds must vote to exit for it to take effect. Baroness warsi told him that the government will not accept that…hey ho the fun continues

      • 162
        My noble lords THIS decision is just TOO important to leave to the ill-informed British people says:

        *Chief Whip

        • 165
          nell says:

          Ffoulkes says the electorate must be informed that any referendum result is not binding, just a consultation which Parliament can ignore.

          That sounds a bit too labour for me – that’s what they did during their 13 years of Terror . And as for ‘Lard ffoulkes’ well he doesn’t exactly add any gravitas to the HoL does he?!!

  50. 157
    Jacobite half-seas over the water says:

    The delights of enrichment via Europe.

    Hurriyet Daily News (19 Jan. 2014) leading stories:

    1. “Archaeologists discover ancient death chambers used for execution, torture in Bursa.”

    Practices of the past, applications for the present.

    2. “Turkish MP heads to Brussels for tough talks with EU.”

    Very tough talks evidently. Are the heads sent in advance or do they accompany the negotiations team? Maybe they are the negotiations team.

  51. 159
    Hang the Bastards says:

    House of Louts. There’s only one thing to do with them.

  52. 164
    nell says:

    I thought cameron had the option of a guillotine motion to force the bill through. Will he be using it? This is time for a MrsT handbag moment!

  53. 166
    BBC news special report says:

    There never was going to be an IN/OUT referendum, anyone who otherwise is a gullible fool.

    Cameron engineered it to fail and if by some miracle it didnt he would have sabotaged it later or ignore the result, now that is his real definition of a triple lock.

    Why trust Cameron, all we have to do is vote UKIP in and we are out of the EU free and clear.

    • 169
      nell says:

      UKIP cannot win the 29015 election it is an impossibility. It would be good to see nigelfarage in Parliament as an MP – he would be refreshing – beyond that to vote UKIP elsewhere and put labour into no10 would be a disaster.

      • 171
        nell says:

        Ha Ha well 29015 is a bit beyond all of us – I meant 2015!

      • 192
        Marc Lewis says:

        Same for you get behind UKIP and anything can happen.

        That’s why the whole nation needs to get behind UKIP. If your negative that it won’t change, we are doomed. Remember it’s the people who vote the politicians in and the power of the people can win anything if they put their minds to it. Don’t waste this significant chance to change things. I have never been a one party voter. When Thatchers time had run out, I voted labour, then when the unelected Brown was messing up, I voted conservative. I don’t like what I see in Ed and labour, can’t stand Cameron and Clegg partnership, but really like what Nigel Farage is all about. We the UK citizens need to stand up and be heard, so a vote for UKIP will inform the other 3 parties and the unelected lords that we mean business. It’s time to put the UK first.

      • 219
        FrankFisher says:

        Nell, back us. Who the fuck else are you going to vote for? Get behind UKIP. Do it. We might be dickheads but we are YOUR dickheads. Ordinary decent British nutcases.

      • 287
        Vote Tory, Get Labour Policies says:

        “UKIP cannot win the 29015 election it is an impossibility”

        You don’t seem to understand how democracy works.

    • 191
      Marc Lewis says:

      That’s why the whole nation needs to get behind UKIP. If your negative that it won’t change, we are doomed. Remember it’s the people who vote the politicians in and the power of the people can win anything if they put their minds to it. Don’t waste this significant chance to change things. I have never been a one party voter. When Thatchers time had run out, I voted labour, then when the unelected Brown was messing up, I voted conservative. I don’t like what I see in Ed and labour, can’t stand Cameron and Clegg partnership, but really like what Nigel Farage is all about. We the UK citizens need to stand up and be heard, so a vote for UKIP will inform the other 3 parties and the unelected lords that we mean business. It’s time to put the UK first.

  54. 168
    dogleg says:

    On BBC now, under politics section.

  55. 176
    Labour voting thicko. says:

    Time to get rid of the Lords. It is undemocratic and nothing but a gravy train for leeching SCUM in their vermine.

  56. 181
    Marc Lewis says:

    As a UK citizen born and bread here, I want the opportunity Yoly vote in a referendum. This is one of the most important votes, we the British public will ever make. Why should just 600 plus politicians and some half loony unelected lords make that decision for us. We should all get behind UKIP on this one before it’s too late. I for one think Nigel would make a great prime minister, no worse than Ed or David (you can forget Clegg) that’s for sure.

  57. 188
    John Bellingham says:

    Here is a bit of nostalgia–the 1970 Conservative manifesto. http://www.conservative-party.net/manifestos/1970/1970-conservative-manifesto.shtml

    Buried towards the end is the statement “If we can negotiate the right terms, we believe that it would be in the long-term interest of the British people for Britain to join the European Economic Community. Our sole commitment is to negotiate; no more, no less. As the negotiations proceed we will report regularly through Parliament to the country.”

    Of course Heath ignored the country and rammed through a bill whereby Britain joined the “Common Market” without a referendum for which he received £35,000 (£556,000 today) in the form of the Charlemagne Prize.

    Purely to spite Heath, the succeeding Wilson Government staged a dodgy referendum to ask if Britain should “stay in” the “Common Market”.
    Neither Heath nor Wilson told the truth about sovreignty–no mention of EU or USE or 28 countries. We were only supposed to get into bed with seven decent, well-heeled, Western European countries and Ireland. It is interesting to recall how all parties lied and lied and lied about the plans of the EU, just in case the public found out the awful truth.

    • 194
      Marc Lewis says:

      I really hope you will get behind UKIP with that comment. I would love to see only UKIP MEP’s in and not one labour, conservative or libdem. That would really show them we mean business. I would also love Clegg, Cameron and Milliband to lose their seats. That would really make my day.

  58. 199
    Not You says:

    All people who follow the mythical sky fairy known as ala or something like must be ignored as they view life on earth as a short interlude before they are whisked off to a place of continual pleasure by 72 virgins ( I assume they have a machine to make them) but in reality there is that many tossers with ala that they can wank themselves off.

    Lose the postal vote.

  59. 200
    The wizz says:

    Why Oh Why, is this blog inundated by leftie trolls? Is it because they are so scared that their days of freeloading are coming to an end?

  60. 204
    i don't n eed no doctor says:

    C4 Guru-Murthy firmly put in his place by Rifkind. Yet again Guru-Murthy tries to stir shit where none exists. C4′s agenda?

  61. 210
    bogtrott says:

    now we can see why water cannons have been bought last week,ready for the backlash of no EU vote.Come on Nigel bang the drum and teach camaloon a lesson.

  62. 218
    FrankFisher says:

    Well bugger me, what fucking idiots!

    What possible reason can there be for anyone who isn’t a socialist to vote LibLabCon now? What actual conservative will vote for Dave’s fake ‘Conservatives’ now?


    UKIP all the way. Here we go.

    • 221
      Fish says:

      It was Labour that did this and you blame Cameron. What a strange take on things you have…unless you are a Labour sockpuppet.

      • 224
        FrankFisher says:

        Dont’ be bloody daft – Cameron could have given this bill government time, he could also have made it a govt bill AND actually binding. He’s never had any intention of giving us a vote. What he will do now is say he’ll reintroduce it after the election YEAH DAVE. Yeah.

        Fuck them all. Vote UKIP.

      • 225
        Charlie says:

        But he is voting for UKIP, so how can you think he is a labour voter. FOOL.

        • 269
          Overthrow the liblabcon says:

          In the la la land of the tory tribalists on here, you either have 100% loyalty to da party or you is a commie labour voter.

          No other possibility exists in their one dimensional minds.

        • 288
          Vote Tory, Get Labour Policies says:

          “he is voting for UKIP”

          Not at the moment he isn’t, there is no election taking place. Who can say what he will or will not do in the future.

  63. 222
    Charlie says:

    UKIP must be the fastest growing party in history. All by the power of the internet and the other 3 parties taking us for fools.

  64. 223
    Charlie says:

    And what would the French and Germans do for us? We will never be fully integrated into Europe. We don’t speak the same language and they would only look after themselves in the end.

    • 289
      Vote Tory, Get Labour Policies says:

      The French and German peoples are waking up to the idea that they need their own versions of UKIP, and for the same reasons.

  65. 227

    All we could expect from either house. And they wander why many don’t vote we the British people must know our place

  66. 228
    Another Headshrinker says:

    Another nail in the coffin if the house if Lords! The sooner we are rid if these self serving wastes of oxygen the better!

  67. 229
    David Cameron says:

    I’ve been royally foulked.

  68. 231
    Anonymous says:

    Fatty Foulkes kills what was left of the liblabcon,

  69. 232
    Anonymous says:

    Signed, sealed, delivered to UKIP

  70. 233
    Anonymous says:

    1914 destroy the nazis, 2014 destroy the liblabcon nazis.

  71. 234
    Anonymous says:

    3 laughing nazi fools

  72. 238
    Anonymous says:

    LibLabCon fools destroyed by LibLabCon fools.

  73. 240
    Anonymous says:

    No fool like a labour fool.

  74. 245
    Anonymous says:

    RIP labour party, 1914-2014, killed by greed.

  75. 246
    Anonymous says:

    Foulk 2.8 million British soldiers, Foulkes EU pension before Country. Now plebs you vote traitor labour to hand over the Falklands, trust daddy’s boy Miliband with nasty Britain.

  76. 251
    Anonymous says:

    I love UKIP

  77. 252
    Anonymous says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ryf3uX78so Nigel tells former Belgian PM to shut up.

  78. 267
    J. Strummer says:

    I fought Delors, but Delors won!
    I fought Delors, but Delors won!
    I fought Delors, but Delors won!

  79. 268
    Taxfodder says:

    You have to laugh…

    Despite all thats gone before in politics just in the last 10 years alone there are still those on this site that actually support the old guard tri party state…utterly amazing, nothing what so ever from that political merry go around would have been an improvement.

    These poor tormented souls can’t quite work it out for themselves that eating shit and thanking Westminster for giving it to them up the arse in the process prolongs the stupidity.

    Their angst and torment does my old heart good if only to see they are getting their just desserts, you could not make it up.

    • 272
      Overthrow the liblabcon says:

      It’s unbelievable isn’t it? The irrational loyalty theses people have to a political system and class that is stripping us of our sovereignty, stripping us of our freedoms, stripping us of our very identity, and quite possibly leading us to civil war within a generation.

      But that’s what happens when you see political parties as being more important or even a substitute for the country.

      Political parties are just instruments to the better governance of the country. Nothing more. They are not certainly not a replacement for it.

  80. 282
    Anonymous says:

    Foulkes was the most stalwart defender of expense fiddling M.P.s so it is little surprise that his contempt for the common people has been demonstrated once again.

  81. 290
    Chris The Leatherman says:

    When Lord Foulkes was shadow defence secretary he visited the Falkland Islands in the Autumn of 1982. Labour, under Michael Foot, had opposed the Falklands Conflict. When he arrived at Port Stanley airport someone had a banner which read “Fuck Off Foulkes”. The BBC missed editing it on the 6 o’clock news but it was photo-shopped out for the 9 o’clock edition. It is a sentiment I have always agreed with.

  82. 299
    Anonymous says:

    How can you possibly blame the Lords for this?

    The commons sent a deeply flawed bill through, it should be obvious that they never expected Lords to pass it in its current state and never intended it to.

    The lords are acting completely non-partisan, which is exactly how things should be.

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A confused Nick Griffin says Nigel Farage is a shill for the City, forgetting that City banks want to stay in the EU:

“Farage is a snake oil salesman, but a very good one. His supposed anti-immigration stance is all smoke and mirrors, as is his carefully cultivated image as a ‘man of the people’. The truth is that UKIP is a pro-immigration party that exists to lobby for the interests of the City of London.”

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