January 17th, 2014

Gray Area in Double Claiming Tory MP’s Expenses Excuses

Fighting talk from Tory MP James Gray, beaten up in the Mirror and his local paper following Guido’s investigation into his expenses yesterday. Gray has given a denial to another more friendly local outlet which, shockingly, is riddled with untruths. Regarding his publicly-disclosed office at his local Conservative Association, Gray claims:

“I am a local MP and I am part of the local Conservative Party, but in terms of my office it’s not there at all. That’s something I did many years ago. I gave up using the Conservative Party offices and thought it would be better to hire a local office which was totally approved by the authorities. He seems to think I have two offices, which I don’t.”

This is untrue; Gray does have two offices. IPSA have confirmed to Guido that his second Conservative Association office is the only office address and telephone number in the public domain. They say the address and telephone number of his real office – the one he claims for – is kept secret for his own security. Gray’s Association told Guido that he couldn’t contact the real office directly and that he would have to go through them. He says he does not have two offices – he patently does – three if you include his Westminster office.

“It’s a snide instigation that I have a special relationship with the Fuller family. First of all they haven’t made any donations.”

This is untrue. Electoral Commission records show that Fuller, his family and companies have made a grand total of ten donations to Gray and the Tories, totalling over £20,000.

“The only thing I can track down is 13 or 14 years ago when the current landlord’s grandmother donated to my party.”

Electoral Commission records show that this donation was received just over 6 years ago…


155 Comments

  1. 1
    Ed Twelvety Balls says:

    One, Seven, Four, eleventeen…

    • 2
      ok says:

      swap rent.

      • 46
        Eric Blair says:

        OK

        How many ex Labour MPs have been imprisoned over fiddling?

        How many Labour dynasties are parachuting family members into safe seats?

        How many moderately well off former Labour Ministers are now millionaires?

        How many millionaires are there in the Shadow Cabinet?

        How many corrupt BBC fiddlers are active Labour Party supporters?

        • 47
          Hmmmmm says:

          And why is Forrest Gump leader of the opposition?

        • 53
          Sunderland is a Labour ghetto thats why its shyte. says:

          The whole of the Labour Party is corrupt,even at a local level the number of councillors,particularly in the North East,who are as thick as planks and are on thousands in allowances most of them never did a das work in their lives.Eddi Milne tried to expose them years ago in the times of Poulson,T Dan Smith and Andre Cunningham.

          • Democracy Now says:

            I appreciate that loacl pride means that people alwys think that things are especially bad in thier area, but I have to tell you that sadly, these levels of corruption are not unique to the North East.

            The Labour Party is also packed with dodgy local councillors in London. The failure of Eric Pickles to tackle local government corruption and the mechanisms which facilitiate it and allow it to undermine our democracy is a national scandal in its own right.

          • RomaBob.... Beeg Issue, Beeg Issue! says:

            Poulson, Smith, Cunningham…… wow I have not heard of these Labour criminals for many years…… power corrupts, as we have seen in the North East!

          • NE Frontiersman says:

            ‘..particularly in the North East…’;
            We in Waltham Forest refuse to yield precedence to any part of this nation:

            ‘http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/10929175.Charity__distressed__by_councillor_theft/

            Remarkably, most of us here would have picked at least ten others before this man as being likeliest to go to chokey. Strength in depth, we call it.

            A LBWF councillor is about 100 times more likely to stand in a dock than the average citizen, it has been recently calculated. It must be something to do with the rigour of the selection process.

        • 124
          Stefan Dennis says:

          What the fuck does all that have to do with this? You thick fucking mong, all the bastards in Westminster are thieving, lying scum. Fuck whatever party they claim to be from, they are ALL part of the same festering pit of slime. Stupid fuckwitts like you are exactly what they want, slightly under-educated divs who think it about party differences, there are no fucking party differences you mong. They are all the fucking same. This particular c//u/n//t is blatantly lying to cover up his theft, in any real job he would be sacked and arrested. Because he is part of that fucking club he will get away with this. Each and every member of parliament deserves a bullet between the eyes and a shallow grave. Each and every fucking one.
          Get this bastard Guido, get him good.

    • 125
      I I tried this at work i would be arrested says:

      We should send all our MPs on a fraud awareness course and then lock them up when the penny drops.

  2. 3
    Anon says:

    Standards are fairly low in Chippenham. There is a lot of dirt to be cleaned up there. The dodgy local council have ruined the town in the last thirty or so years.

    • 103
      FFS says:

      And Swindon. Labour stepped down because they actually admitted they were incompetent but the Tories are all crooked as well as being amoral.

      • 110
        it is getting wierd boy and girls. says:

        cameron and balls.
        crass.
        olonelballs. are out to get youuuuuu.

        daggresON.

  3. 4
    StevieBC says:

    Well done GF: a well placed kick to the goolies for yet another dodgy MP.
    Keep up the good work.

  4. 5
    Lord Stansted says:

    Well done Guido. A good riposte to those fuckers claiming that personal private behaviour of politians should remain private. Someone who cheats on his wife is likely to cheat elsewhere.

    • 13
      Public school says:

      Abbott said on the Telly last night that a politician’s private life should not be reported.

      • 24
        She would say that says:

        Nothing to hide, nothing to fear blah blah blah

      • 25
        jgm2 says:

        She’s teasing us that she has a private life. She’s well into ‘special interest – must be over 18 to view’ material.

        I’m sure there’s a ‘market’ for the likes of Diane Abbott in some sweaty wanking-dungeon in Buttfuck, Illinois but they’ll only ever meet thanks to the internet.

  5. 6
    Make him spend the night with Chris Huhne says:
  6. 7
    King Alfred the Great says:

    Send him to the tower!

  7. 8
    Arthur says:

    He looks like the doorman at a brothel where you are likely to catch syphilis

  8. 9
    Who's a little fibber then, not up to david laws' standard though says:

    50 raids of Gray

  9. 10
    If it looks like a slimy cunt .... says:

    Appearances can be so deceptive.

  10. 16
    You are not invisible and can be checked up on you silly little man says:

    What I can never fathom is why these stupid shits don’t stop digginf themselves into deeper holes. Mateys, the intenet!!!!

  11. 17
    King Alfred the Great says:

    Having watched Benefits Street, it’s not much different to Sesame Street.

    Both have a big bird, a bloke living out of a bin, and people trying to learn the alphabet.

    • 48
      Lord Stansted says:

      Radio4′s “More or Less” – you know, that supposedly serious prog about maths and tech stuff, did a beeboid gloss job on Benefit St. Very few people in that street are it seems on benefit and lies to the contrary are all made up by the right-wing press, etc, etc. I suppose it’s just a matter of time before “serious prgrammes” are revealed to be typical beeboid crap.

    • 108
      Anonymous says:

      brilliant

  12. 18
    Anonymous says:

    It must be a pretty big “outbuilding” he is renting for that amount of taxpayers money! Just for him and his wife to use? Surely a room in the rather large farmhouse would do the job? Does anyone have pictures of this expensive office suite? Or is it a “garage’?

  13. 20
    The PM says:

    Own up mate or get out.

  14. 21
    âm says:

    apro.
    poding.daspisshere.

  15. 22
    Mustapha Djinn says:

    James Gray is a politician and therefor is automatically a deceitful, dissembling, lying toad well versed by his brethren in fraud, forgery and adultery. It is not his fault. He should be pitied.

  16. 23
    Hard-working families up and down the country says:

    Are they ALL at it in Parliament?

  17. 26
    Sunderland is a Labour ghetto thats why its shyte. says:

    James Grey the gift that keeps on giving.

  18. 30
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Does he secretly hire an office down at his nearest Lodge?

  19. 33
    Ed Miliband says:

    The cost of claiming crisis.

    • 58
      Lord Stansted says:

      Poor Ed, even your pal, Radio4′s PM is devoting great chunks of time to “we’ve heard it all before Snowden” rather than talk about that speech.

      • 64
        I thought Ed's speech was going to be groundbreaking says:

        Cycling on the pavement has now taken precedence.

      • 65
        BBC Red Bottom says:

        Sorry Ed. But we can’t run it top of the hour. Its such a snore story.
        Never mind. Castro can’t hang on for ever. That will define our news agenda for a few days. He isn’t Mandela, but still…

  20. 34
    Blowing Whistles says:

    I nominate Lord Carlile as legal nobhead of the week.

  21. 35
    Anonymous says:

    It would seem that lying has become a part of the Tory game. Just keep denying and all will be well.

    • 39
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Perhaps Gray has sought the opinion of some eminent QC and he will produce it if the going gets tougher – oops trougher!

  22. 41
    Chris Huhne says:

    Talking of grey areas my balls dont half itch.

  23. 42

    It is unusual to see an MP being so economical.

    This would be genuinely commendable if such economy were not merely confined to the truth.

  24. 50
    Chris Huhne says:

    Crab supper anyone?

  25. 59
    Sunderland is a Labour ghetto thats why its shyte. says:

    I had some Whitby crab for lunch accompanied by some malted brown bread very nice.

  26. 60
    Jimmy says:

    I’m giving up with Miliband. He’s such a loser. From now on I’m going to campaign for the hard line, Marxist policies I like. I’m going left of the left. I’m looking for a Maoist, socialist, communist, totalitarian , old school lefty dictatorship.

    I’m joining the Greens!

  27. 67
    Pubic Affairs says:

    Huhne should have told the judge he was just itching to get back home, when he was photographed speeding.

  28. 68
    I do like to be informed says:

    One might have thought that the local paper might be tempted to alert their readers about the integrity of their MP but, sadly, I am unable to find the slightest hint of this story.
    However, Sandridge Hill is about to reopen after an early morning head-on crash.
    Fearless reporting to a standard of which that Hugh would approve.

    • 95
      Sunderland is a Labour ghetto thats why its shyte. says:

      Local newspapers are now useless,they employ jounalists at around 21k in this area,as you would expect they can hardly write their names let alone come up with detailed investigations.The internet has done for regional papers.My evening rag in printed in Rotherham the night before.

  29. 70

    Headlines:

    * François Hollande ‘liberated’ by scandal of affair with Julie Gayet.
    * Chris Huhne makes return trip to Brussels.

  30. 73
    Freddie may see my Fanny Crack says:

    Wasn’t the Wall Street Crash such a disaster because US banks were too many and too small and too local?

  31. 74
    Paniagua V5.1 says:

    I do wonder if fiddler crabs really exist or a simply a construct to describe a senior libdem.

  32. 76
    John Prescott says:

    I went to my local brothel and said “I’m here for some ho fun”.

    They brought me a plate of noodles.

  33. 78
    George Bailey says:

    Just like the Bailey Building and Loan Association.

  34. 79
    altruism in industry says:

    Don’t MPs have surgeries, a bit like a doctor, where constituents can go to discuss their ailments ? What is the point of having an office if nobody knows where it is ?

    • 90
      Close The Westminster Pocket Liners Club and Start Afresh says:

      MP’s don’t need surgeries to “suture us up” they manage if from multiple locations.

    • 104
      Catch me if you can says:

      Aaah, that’s the point.
      Cunning, right?

  35. 80
    Ian Smith says:

    Universal Credit will be delivered on time and on budget.

  36. 81
    Jasmin Beckett says:

    I actually just cried eating a chili. I want all chilis dead.

  37. 82
    Mr Tibbs says:

    Carry on fighting the banks Ed. This resonates with the public and is an election winner. Banks holding our money hostage

    • 91
      Masters of the Sub Prime Universe says:

      If you have a viable borrowing proposition and a good credit record you will ALWAYS get a loan or overdraft. Bad credit record;insufficient cash flow to service debt and crap business plan…you won’t !! Bank’s have boodles of cash to lend to good risks even in the depths of the recession. The trouble was prior the crash with the encouragement of Labour they lent to people who should never have been allowed to be in charge of a piggy bank let alone a bank account. Mortgages at 125% LTV was ALWAYS madness and predicated on the assumption that property values would always rise and that the good times would always roll. Trouble is…they didn’t and a lot over over-extended people and businesses who had been struggling in the boom years went belly up

  38. 86
    Fabians are EVIL says:

    All very interesting but methinks you are fishing in a very shallow pond – surely there are far bigger scams going on in the EU?? How about turning your fire on that unholy bunch of creeps?

  39. 87
    A Maimed Badger says:

  40. 88
    IPSA - Say Nothing Do Nothing Earn Lots says:

    To be fair, what exactly should you expect us to do, certainly nothing to spoil our track record of doing, well, actually, nothing really.

    At the end of the day forget the I in IPSA, they pay our wages, well you do actually, they just re-distribute the money to good causes, us!

  41. 93
    Vince Cable says:

    I agree with Ed.

  42. 94
    A Maimed Badger says:

    Now the Economy is back on track, perhaps they might consider singing ” Putting on the Ritz ” at the Labour Party Conference… they can do it in Moscow… why not here.

    • 100
      @# says:

      Redistribution of (earned) wealth, amongst people who will actually spend it – rather than salt it away in offshore protectorates – is the best way to stimulate the economy. The Tories have resisted it so far, because it’s against all their principles to allow money to flow downward in society, rather than inexorably up.

  43. 96
    Liberal Minded Lady With Big Tits says:

    When “Lord” Rennard asked if I would play his rusty trumbone, I though he had left it out in the rain, he hadn’t, what followed were a gross misrepresentation of his true intentions, it left a nasty taste in my mouth!!

  44. 97
    @# says:

    Dear Little Lord Fontleroy or Puffin Face to his mates,

    The end is nigh!!!

  45. 101
  46. 102
    Enjoy the enrichment says:

  47. 105
    Enjoy the enrichment says:

    Aaah, what enrichment!

  48. 109
    Anon. says:

    photo/1

    • 121
      Money Plant says:

      Ah yes. The state owned propaganda machine carries on as usual, oblivious to public opinion.

      • 131
        pubic sucks. says:

        please spell poopamenu.
        does the politburo kiss babies when speaking to the pubes.

  49. 111
    Crabby Pryce says:

    Is there a campaign on at the moment to see who can come up with the most really offensive Tweet ?

  50. 112
    The bottom line says:

    Gray: Two offices
    Huhne: Two orifices

  51. 114
    Ah! but says:

    NHS sent black woman letter saying her password was CHARCOAL SHADE for hospital website.

    HoC sent Diane a letter saying her password was Raaaaaasist.

    • 123
      Lampshade says:

      When did shade become racist?

      • 132
        polite notice. says:

        pls pit the loght on or i smash potato.

      • 145
        Jack Ketch says:

        For decades. One has to come up with a new word regularly as soon as they know the old ones. There are at least 150 words in use in South Africa, mainly subtle and a further 83 unsubtle ones that I know from the USA.
        e.g. Shade, shadow, dark-green, non-swimmer, Houtie (woodentop), “K”, “Z”, Zot, floppy, Biscuit, Brillo, BUN, PDP (Previously Disadvantaged person), velcro.

        I rather like the high-tech sounding “A-Bot”

  52. 118
    Handycock says:

    Well done Guido. Another dodgy MP exposed. Disgraceful behaviour by a member of the house.

  53. 122
    Lampshade says:

    Where are the crosshairs?

    • 127
      OMG says:

      How many animals can you fit into a pair of ladies jeans?

      2 calves, 1 beaver, 1 ass, 1 pussy, countless hares, the occasional cock and 1 dead fish no one can find.

    • 128
      William Vague says:

      Save money on hair restorer. Instead simply paint a series of little rabbits on your bald head.

      From a distance they look like hares.

    • 130
      Lord Greville Janner says:

      I just got fired from my job as a children’s magician after I put my own spin on the old trick ‘Pulling rabbits from a hat’.

      Apparently, ‘Pulling hares from my helmet’ is not suitable for a children’s party.

  54. 133
    No Professor Turkey News says:

  55. 138
    White rabbit says:

    Nothing wrong with an ex-directory number for office use. Can you imagine how tiresome it would be speaking to the proles about NHS waiting lists, double parking and gangs of Gypsies, tramps and thieves.

  56. 140
    Thieving Lying Twats Society says:

    Welcome!

  57. 147
    Joe Erskine says:

    Why is it being left to Guido to deal with this matter?

    Surely the Police should be dealing with it?

  58. 152
    50 Calibre says:

    The devil’s always in the detail…


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