January 9th, 2014

Ignore the Spin: 56 Pubs Shut Per Week Under Labour

Labour MP Toby Perkins may well be simple, but that does not excuse his attempts to re-write history. The “Shadow Pubs Minister” has sent out a ham-fisted attack about the “great pub scandal”:

“Labour is forcing a Parliamentary debate on backing local pubs, pressing the Government to act as research shows 26 pubs are closing every week. Too many pubs across Britain are closing their doors and we urgently need action but ministers are dragging their feet. Pubs are vital hubs in communities up and down the country.”

Perkins, a renowned wally, has accused BIS of “dithering”. But lets just rewind a little…

The real “great pub scandal” was that Labour did more to hamstring the pub industry than any other government. At one point under Gordon, according to the BBC, 56 pubs were shutting a week. Then there were the former Chancellor’s crippling 60% rise in booze taxes, as well as the smoking ban destroying thousands of businesses. The ballooning in pub companies was a direct consequence of Brown’s tax relief for breweries introduced in 2002. Labour have some cheek in blaming Vince Cable for a problem they created. By all means highlight the concerns, but Perkins seems to have spent a little too long in the pub.


  1. 1
    Sunderland is a Labour thats why its shyte says:

    Toby like Tristram,Hilary and Fabian is a horny handed son of toil leave him alone he may be a simpleton but he is our simpleton.


    • 6
      ? says:

      Why is it that the party who says that it is the working class party always shits on the working classes?


      • 10
        Sunderland is a Labour thats why its shyte says:

        Because most of the working class are thick,I know I live amongst them.


      • 50

        Because it cleverly farmed them to gain its hegemonic power – never ever meaning actually to help them in the first place.

        “The bodies of the dead working class workers and peasants are the stepping-stone-sandbags on the Shining Path Towards The Political Power of the Socialist Intellectual Class.”

        – David Davis, 2014


      • 161
        JK Rawlings says:

        Labour are the party of:

        Immigration to get in Labour voters so, screw the workers.
        Gambling casinos etc for the workers to lose their money.
        Extended Drinking hours so workers can spend more on booze.
        Smoking bans – potentially a good thing but not popular with workers.

        Why in the hell does anyone vote for this wretched party? Oh, I guess immigrants, casino owners, bookies, brewers and pub companies (now big since the smoking ban).


        • 177
          callmedave says:

          Labour are also the party of going to war over something that doesn’t even exist.


          • Anonymous says:

            And the Tories wanted to bomb Syria, to help the FSA terror gangs get into power. Tony Blair and the Tories: Two cheeks of the same arse?


    • 17
      Mitch says:

      The n*bhead is in the Derbyshire Times more than Vaz is in his local rag. Not that we see him in any Chesterfield pubs though, considering his professed concern.

      He’s not from round here, either. Still, he’s in town more than Benn used to be.


      • 23
        Sunderland is a Labour thats why its shyte says:

        Was that Benn from Bill and Benn?


        • 33
          Mitch says:

          Tony “man-of-the-people millionaire and well-known rambler persecutor” Benn


          • Only chavs shop at Tesco says:

            That boring, humourless, obsessive, economically illiterate, ubiquitous windbag? That Benn? The one who shamelessly married into American money and completely screwed up Kirby Manufacturing, the Scottish Daily News and Meriden Motorcycle Co-op? That Benn? The one who blubbed in the middle of a speech by his brain-washed grand-daughter and appeared in all but three of 26,756 editions of Any Questions? Oh, yes. That Benn.


          • FLETCH says:

            Tony Benn, the former Lord Stansgate.

            Lost the title but kept the mentality


          • KGB and Bar says:

            What happened to his MIL’s estate?


          • Anonymous says:

            Tony Benn “lost” his title? Some needs to check their history.


    • 22
      Labour are run by Elitist Elites says:

      Labour has been taken over by wonks, Lesbians, human rights activists and Oxford graduates. Bears no resemblance to a party that is supposed to represent the working class.

      The only time you see a senior Labour figure in a pub is just before election time.


    • 31
      dai fomenting (sic) says:

      the creation of the ‘pub-owning companies’ goes back to the reforms proposed by (come into the beer garden) maude in the ‘8o’s

      the mini breweries were given subsidies by gordon brown – and those have been passed on to the POC’s who can make far more profit on the mini’s (very poor) products – whilst selling them at premium prices

      several of the POC’s are bank supported ‘zombies’

      the mess reflects poorly on all participants – including the mugs (sic) that frequent the pubs


    • 43
      Sally Bercow says:

      At least in the pub you can say what you like and no one remembers it the next morning. And even if they do you can say it was only the drink talking.


    • 79
      Over a Red Barrel says:

      You are forgetting the unwanted and socially damaging 24-hour drinking culture inflicted by the Labour mafia. Someone had to pay for this expensive shambles.

      Of course, Red Ed would never stoop so low as drinking plebby beer. Labour hates the English and their fine beer history and tradition.


    • 99
      Ed Twelvety Balls says:

      We in Labour were also responsible for decimating pubs’ income from fruities with the 2005 Gambling Act. This helped to shut more pubs and saw off thousands of jobs in the amusement trade too. It was all part of our grand scheme to destroy the private sector and get everyone who feels like getting out of bed in the mornings working for the state.


    • 152
      in the dictionary polition should = egotisticle powercrazed idiot who thinks they know it all says:

      Not to mention the live music act that made just about every man and his organ be banned from playing with their monkey unless they had a licence to play form the stasi master at the local council, rightly revoked by this government but how many pubs were closed during the years it was in place. and how many young bands had nowhere to play?.
      Kim Howles once said his idea of hell was two Folk singers in a Somerset pub.
      Which Steve Knightly of Show of Hands replied in their song Roots,
      “and a minister said his vision of hell was three folk singers in a pub near Wells


      • 181

        The real damage was done when the piece of filth Blair and his gang politicised the issuing of licences by taking the responsibility from the magistrates, and giving it to the town hall gauleiters .


    • 212
      Jingleballix says:

      Not for much longer………..he only has a majority of 549………..byeeeeee!


  2. 2
    Time Gentlemen Please says:

    Strangely. 24 hour drinking ruined the pubs. Dinner time sessions and throwing it down your neck at last orders in the evening were good for the trade.


    • 16
      All socialists are hypocrites says:

      Labour’s aspiration at the time was to introduce “Cafe Society” to UK like there was on continent I seem to recall but instead all they got was 24 hour binge drinking…fights and disorder in every market town throughout the country and floods of vomit coupled with collossal waste of police time and public money


      • 87
        The Labour party says:

        You clearly haven’t been to Islington or Hampstead. It’s all working well there, just as planned. You can get a decent glass of wine for £8.50 or the whole bottle for £52. The staff are all delightful and have wonderful accents. You can get artisan bread to dip in good quality olive oil with 25 YO balsamic vinegar. On a warm summer night I could almost be at my other place in Tuscany.


      • 185

        This polite cafe society exists only in the imagination of the champagne socialist dinner party set in their weekend retreats in the Dordogne or Umbria.
        Anybody who has spent substantial amounts of his leisure time in old style German boozers or some of the less salubrious of Flanders in Belgium will know what a load of old bollocks it is.


  3. 3
    Cyril Smith says:

    Can I have me jacket back please ?


    • 4
      Is he really that mutated? says:

      Is that picture for real, or is it photoshopped?


    • 47
      Butchers' Assistants and Bellhops says:

      Was it Matthew Parris who once wrote in the Sunday Times mag that Tony Blair had a 7 inch drop?

      Or something like that.

      (It’s the difference between shoulders and waist FFS).


  4. 5
    Is it appropriate says:

    is it appropriate


  5. 6
    Adolf Hitler says:

    Can I have my hairstyle back, please?


  6. 8
    Ozwald Boateng (no relation) says:

    That’s a spectacularly ill-fitting suit he’s wearing, too.


  7. 9
    Anonymous says:

    Class piece of tailoring, and is that a pink tie !

    Why do we have to put up with these blathering, incontinent buffoons.


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  8. 11
    Richard Chimney says:

    Just another Labour tw*t with the memory of a flea and the brains of one too come to think of it


  9. 12
    Aunt Duggan says:

    No justice, no pizza!


  10. 13
    Irony overload says:

    Funniest clip on the news last night was one of Mark Duggan’s kids in a hoodie pointing at the camera with a finger gun gesture. Don’t think he quite got the memo.


    • 21
      Ed Miliband, 22 Benefits Street, Shitsville, England, says:

      These are the ‘35%’ that I hope will carry me into Number 10.

      And to stay in Number 10, this is the 35% that I will have to keep happy, at the expense of everyone else.


      • 73
        bergen says:

        The truth of this post is chilling.


      • 176
        KGB and Bar says:

        I’ve been told that I must tour the schools soon and talk to all the fnics. Is that right? Looks good on the telly. Don’t talk, just try to smile – ugh!


    • 134

      Following in Father’s …………


  11. 14
    Simples says:

    Perkins a ‘renowned wally”. As opposed to a Labour MP who isn’t?


  12. 18
    Bumwatch says:

    He looks g@y and drunk.


  13. 19
    Coming Soon says:

    Penny Mordaunt in a swimming costume on Splash. I’ll be watching, recording, watching the recording, watching and recording on 1, watching the 1 recording, watching and recording the repeat, recording myself watching the recording of the repeat.


  14. 26
    Tracey Worthless says:

    Bet he claims for a new suit on expenses


  15. 27
    Psyche the Dog says:

    Boozers have been going out of business since Maggie decided to bring in competion way back, the breweries were forced to reliquish ther holdings of pubs and hotels, why should breweries bother they can sell to supermarket companies, who sell the booze as a loss leader, distribution costs go down. I rarely go into pubs, I don’t drink beer, if I liked beer I would brew it myself, much cheaper and you know what goes into it. I used to go into one or two pubs years ago to see old school pals but they started courting and getting married, and didn’t go any more, I did not want to sit on my own so I stopped going.


  16. 28
    Mornington Crescent says:

    The sooner most of the pubco pubs go to the wall, the better: crap, have-a-go landlords selling piss-poor beer at inflated prices.

    The only reason the banks can’t pull the plug on the likes of Punch is that they’re in way too deep.

    Who was the biggest lender to the pubcos? Why, RBS, of course – under the ‘leadership’ of Broon-ennobled Fred the Shred.


    • 167
      Sham-al-Tower-Hamlets, "lets get some more shia into the smoke to make it interesting". says:

      Presently, the shells of the Pubcos are stuffed financially. RBS lent like no tomorrow, post the hedge fund buyouts – who cleaned out the assets, filleted them and parcelled them up and then with their filthy lucre the hedgers ran for the hills and leaving the shite behind and the albatross of enormous debts with the pubcos.
      Brown mega tax rises didn’t help and the smoking ban was just about the last straw. Some may ask – was it deliberately planned, after all they [the Trots in Labour and the Trots in Brussels] hate the Brits gathering in numbers to swap stories about just what a shit hole the country has become – mostly thanx to ZanuLiebour.

      “have-a-go landlords selling piss-poor beer at inflated prices”

      Correct, it also has the additional ‘benefit’ of pissing off the remnants of once loyal clientele and thus when trade tails off totally – business is down the drain – HEY! and hallelujah, alleluia, amen whatever – sell it on to the property sharks!!

      Pubs are a dying trade.


      • 182
        Mornington Crescent says:

        Dying but not dead.

        My former local – once a great pub became a Punch outfit. The landlord changed constantly – the record low tenancy being 3 months.

        Recently, Punch included the pub as part of its grand sell-off/fire sale: a decent landlord picked up the freehold for a song. Result: decent, well-kept beer, good people, good bands occasionally, etc. Hell, they may even bring back the snuff machine…


        • 196
          Lard Prescun't says:

          Good landlord is priceless – spotty Irish 25 yr olds are cnuts – my local has a 50 something man who runs the place with his wife – they clearly love running a boozer and that’s how it should be.

          The Labour party of Blair, Brown and Militw*t has betrayed the working class.


        • 203
          Sham-al-Tower-Hamlets, "lets get some more shia into the smoke to make it interesting". says:

          That’s a good tale and I wish it could happen more often – pubs can be saved.


  17. 32
    Nigel Farage doppelganger says:

    Is he wearing Pickles hand me downs now ?


  18. 34
    Wassit about? says:

    Why does David Cameron have the utmost respect for a London Criminal Family?


  19. 35
    Susanne says:

    Labour, Conservative and Lib Dems deliberately destroyed public houses in this country – that’s where resistance to their despicable plans for the ruination of Great Britain was strongest.


    • 71
      Pint and a short please, the taxpayer is paying says:

      Liebour couldn’t have people talking behind their backs, they might have sensible idea’s, that’s why the pub’s were closed, drunkards have more sense than Liebour.


      • 173
        Hang the Bastards says:

        Spot on Susanne. The Lib/Lab/Con brigade hate the idea of people talking to one another because they might decide to slaughter the political vermin.


  20. 37
    Butchers' Assistants and Bellhops says:

    70% of the blame has to do with those arseholes at Enterprise Inns taking on shitloads of long term debt at the very top of interest rates.

    Then they have to crank up the rents for landlords & guess what? They cannot afford it.

    Sam Smiths pubs are shite too. Get managers in for a year as temps then fuck ‘em off. Shit beer & lager too. I hear the two old, miserable miser c.unts running it, will soon be retired soon though.

    I need a pint.


    • 42
      John Smith says:

      Sam Smiths is a terrible pint.


      • 81
        bergen says:

        They never seem to sell Guiness in a Sam Smith’s pub . That can’t be good for trade.


      • 107
        Get on with it! says:

        You must already be drunk but looking again at your moniker, there’s ‘owt like a family falling out.


    • 82
      Andy says:

      I used to have a particular liking of Sam Smith’s Premium Bottled Lager which I thought was probably the best bottled llager I’d ever had. The rest of their range though is pure shite.


  21. 40
    Margaret Beckett says:

    Why wasn’t I invited onto Splash?


  22. 41
    Mark Wouters says:

    Please to all concerned ,When youve got your hand up Wliiian Hagues Backdoor in the Ventrillaquists position ,please make sure hes on the Leftwing Frequency and that his tone is less abrasive to us then usual as hes become a Bore, Socialist Voters incorporated.


  23. 46
    Legal Landlord says:

    Is he wearing Eric Pickles jacket in that photo ?


  24. 56
    Mr Byrite says:

    Another satisfied customer.


  25. 63
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Cheaper to brew it yourself.


  26. 64
    Will says:

    when the smoking ban was proposed a lot of research was done in which it was claimed that people who did not like smoking would suddenly decide to go into pubs.

    the problem with this is that it interviewed people who did not already go into pubs, so the research was biased towards the smoking ban.

    All that happened was that individuals who smoked decided to reduce their pub visits so taking declined.

    Also many pubs I in the uk because of the pubcos like punch having large debts have not spent the money on refurbishment of pubs, so the décor has declined and does not make itself appealing to customers


  27. 68
    i don't n eed no doctor says:

    Perkins is not only big and daft, he is also spiteful. Labour through and through.


  28. 70
    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    Well who’d a thunk?, create all these problems when in office but when in opposition bleat about all these problems that you created when in office, scuse have to go for another dizzy-fit.


    • 72
      Arthur says:

      Reminds you of Fatson banging on about gambling machines in bookies doesn’t it?


      • 85
        Socialism is a severe mental illness says:

        Or Ed “Green Taxes” Miliband whining about the high energy bills he created.

        Or Labour in general, having invited 4 million immigrants into the country, complaining about a shortage of jobs, schools, hospitals and affordable housing.


      • 145
        Old Codger says:

        Gambling Act passed by Labour limited these machines to 4 per premise so the bookies opened more premises. Now who would have thought that?


        • 191
          Brian says:

          Not the sort of brain dead gimps in the last Labour government that is for sure. I’d bet good money that neither of the Ed’s can breathe and take a dump at the same time.


  29. 74
    Andy says:

    I was in the pub trade until a couple of years ago. What finally killed it was banning smokers end of story (and before the no smoking lobby kicks off, I don’t smoke). What was crippling it before then was the ‘tie’. Tenanted houses – which is most of the ‘locals’ were being crippled by it. Ban it. Breweries and PubCos should only be allowed to have managed houses. The rest should be handled by ordinary commercial letting agents and the licensee charged just premises rent and then left to source his stock etc from wherever he wants.

    As for smoking, if a pub does not serve food at all at anytime save for crisps, nuts etc etc – not even a tray of sarnies for the darts team and it does not allow anyone on the premises under the age of 18 – not even the licensees family, then it should be allowed to be a ‘smoking’ premises at the discretion of the licensee.


    • 90
      bergen says:

      The ban saw off a number of social clubs in the area as well as the pubs. I never understood why it was not possible to exempt a seperate room away from the bar itself for smokers.

      The elderly seem to have suffered the most- no more lunchtime pint and a smoke with their friends.Social life destroyed. I suppose they were forces of conservatism that so exercised our Tone. I don’t suppose they were so enthused by his supercasinos.


      • 194
        left wing, right wing, they're all turkeys. . says:

        From Andy above. .
        “social life destroyed”

        On nail head hit!

        People talking in pubs would get further quicker than here on this blog, but thank god for this blog and others like it.

        Vote UKIP

        Yeah Yeah more of the same. ..but different.
        It’s a start.


    • 127
      Sunderland is a Labour thats why its shyte says:

      Andy you are spot on mate,I used to go to my local.a free house twice a week 3 or 4 pints a game of nap and of course a few fags I havnt been back since the smoking ban,this is Britain today political correct arseholes and health zealots who want to take al the little pleasures in life.It wont belong before the council are putting smoke detectors in housholds.


      • 130
        Sunderland is a Labour thats why its shyte says:

        I am just having a Mars Bar…..sugar sugar too much sugar!


  30. 78
    Shoot his Tailor says:

    You can tell he’s a labour MP by the dreadful cut of his suit.


  31. 84
    Handycock says:

    As a fellow Portsmouth MP I will be at the filming of Penny’s dive on splash unless it clashes
    with one of my forthcoming court appearances.


  32. 88
    P l e b says:

    What is Mr Farage’s policy on pubs and pub companies? He should be an expert.


  33. 89
    Ian Duncan Smith says:

    Universal Credit will be delivered on time and on budget.


    • 100
      retardEd Miliband says:

      You are going too far, too fatht, and creating a cotht of living cwithith!

      Cotht of living cwithith. Too far, too fatht.


  34. 92
    Paul Marks says:

    The problem with the pubs is that the government would not allow the breweries to own lots of pubs any more (so no more cheap beer).

    Again and again (in industry after industry) the government (or the courts) impose what they think is a “free market” (drawn from some university economics textbook) sweeping away what has actually voluntarily evolved over time – which is what a free market really is.


    • 205
      Labour pains says:

      Happens all the time with these so-called “experts”. What really needs to happen is to close down all these useless universities and let the world get by on on its own.


  35. 93
    (Not so)Dangerous Brian says:

    Labour MP’s modus operandi 1. engage single brain cell 2. Open gob 3. Insert boot 4. continue doing same until ordered to change feet 5. repeat with new foot.


  36. 94
    Sugar free? says:


  37. 95
    Speckled Hen says:

    Labour lie and lie and they’re so brazen about it. Yet the media rarely howl, it’s only blogs exposing their fraud.


    • 101
      A pathological liar currently resident at 10 Downing Street says:

      Lie 1: Three days before the election, David Cameron: “Any cabinet minister . who comes to me and says ‘Here are my plans’ and they involve front-line reductions, they’ll be sent straight back to their department to go away and think again”.

      Lie 2: A month before the election, David Cameron: “Our plans involve cutting wasteful spending, Our plans don’t involve an increase in VAT.”

      Lie 3: The coalition agreement: “We will stop top-down reorganisation of the NHS.”

      Lie 4: The coalition agreement: We will guarantee that health spending increases in real terms.”

      Lie 5: Two months before the election, from David Cameron: “I wouldn’t change child benefit, I wouldn’t means test it. I don’t think that’s a good idea.”

      Lie 6: Michael Gove, just before the election: “Ed Balls keeps saying that we are committed to scrapping EMA. I have never said this. We won’t.”

      Lie7: Liam Fox: “a bigger army for a safer Britain”, but it now loses 7,000 soldiers.

      Lie 8: In October 2009 George Osborne said: Retail banks should stop paying out significant cash bonuses. A year later, he opposed an updated EU Capital Requirement Directive intended to limit them.
      In 2013 he took a plane to Europe in bid to block a Europe-wide cap on bankers’ bonuses

      Lie 9: David Cameron: “Yes, we back Sure Start. It’s a disgrace that Gordon Brown has been trying to frighten people about this.” Yet the government’s Early Intervention Grant means a reduction of £1.4 billion in the amount given to early intervention programmes. As a result,More than 400 Sure Start children’s centres have closed during the first two years of coalition government.

      Lie 10 No cuts in tax credits for families with an income of less than £50,000;

      Lie 11 prison for anyone carrying a knife;

      Lie 12 no cuts to the navy;

      Lie 13 keeping the child trust fund for the poorest third of families;

      Lie 14 no hospital closures;

      Lie 15 3000 more midwives since 2010 they’ve created 1000. Lowering the shortage from 6,000 to 5,000.


    • 106
      EU Funded Pro-EU Troll says:

      Vote UKIP


  38. 102
    Savile Row says:

    Where does he get his suits? I need to know so that I never go there.


  39. 103
    Get on with it! says:

    His intelligence is only matched by his sartorial elegance.

    The fisking of this Labour lie will not be found on the BBC.
    Just like all the rest.


  40. 110
    The state knows best ? says:

    Politicians killed off the pension day OAP visit to the local pub.
    The increase in the cost of a drink in a pub, combined with the smoking ban, the encouragement of paying pensions directly into bank accounts, ended the early afternoon local pub trade and a social event for pensioners on pension day.


  41. 112
    Mornington Crescent says:

    “Mr Steen said that when Alexander Morris was later arrested, the watch was discovered in his anus…”



  42. 113
    Rolf Harris says:

    Have you not been to Wetherspoons?

    A pensioner can have a three course meal pint of bitter and a cup of coffee for £4.99p


    • 115
      Elsie Hargreaves 5 Railway Terrace Dewsbury says:

      And if you make the meal last all afternoon you even get three hours free heating.


    • 171
      The state knows best ? says:

      The nearest wetherspoons is in the town centre , a fifteen minute bus ride from my local PO.
      My local pub or what’s left of it, half of it has been closed down, is only five shop fronts away from the local PO on our little parade of shops.

      When these OAP’s travel to the centre of town ,as you are suggesting , whom exactly are they suppose to converse with that has the shared local knowledge , not just of the local area, but also about local friends / neighbours and their now grown up families ?

      As I said , Politicians have killed the local pubs. They are doing their level best to destroy the local PO and now doubt any other fabric of local community.
      This is not about the difference between Lab or Con , because they have all been doing it.


      • 178
        MacGuffin says:

        Perhaps if the OAPs had done something with their life other than sit around in pubs, they wouldn’t rely on pubs for their social life now.

        Just sayin’.

        No sympathy.


        • 188
          The state knows best ? says:

          No doubt you would have them learn yoga or join a squash club instead of having a half a ale and a chinwag in a pub on pension day.

          Out of curiosity ,why are bars and restaurants in parliament subsidies by taxpayers ?
          Just asking.


  43. 113
    Tin foil top hat says:

    “56 Pubs Shut Per Week Under Labour” and promptly reopened as mosques.

    Feel the enrichment.


  44. 119
    Ruttiger says:

    Could somebody please sign off some of our money for him, in expenses, so he can buy a suit that fits!


  45. 130
    Universal Hiss says:

    David Byrne nailed that tailoring years ago……


  46. 137
    Butchers' Assistants and Bellhops says:

    Qu’est-ce que?


  47. 144
    ʍȫʊʂʂȁ ҞϴџṦṦậ says:

    “Retailers have bad Christmas”

    Does this mean that the Tories can shut up about the “economic recovery” now please? The facts don`t fit the lies do they?


    • 149
      The Labour Party says:

      Rejoice! Dear Leader Ed Miliband will bring economic recovery to One-Nation Britain by copying the successful policies of President Hollande!

      As Britain’s economy continues to flatline, France’s roars ahead! Comrades, Dear Leader will ensure we are not left behind!


  48. 146
    EU Watch says:

    The economic differential between the UK and the Eurozone is a very good reason for exiting the EU:


    The problem is that the recovery in the UK is indicating that rates need to be raised, whilst the EU’s pathetic performance is looking for a rate cut to stimulate.

    The UK recovery is not a real one though, which is why conditions on the ground are not improving drastically (yet) but is purely a function of interest rates. London has the best rate at present, since the ECB cut last time, so is attracting capital from all over at present. (Reflected in the FX markets)

    However, if rates are not moved upwards soon then inflation may be seen in the economy, but with house prices high, a rate rise would likely finish Conservative hopes in 2015.

    My bet: Rates will go up shortly before the election so as the effect on housing is not felt until after.

    However, the current economic ‘recovery’ is very much dependent on what the FED / ECB do over the next few quarters.


    • 148
      EU Watch says:

      Oh – and the recovery at present owes nothing to UK monetary policy (of Carney / Osborne) other than that they have placed the UK at the wrong end of a Carry Trade.

      The underlying economy of the UK is still shot to pieces, but people are willing to lend to the UK as the rate is good. The additional tax burden for the next generation when rates do go up might be a bit higher than it was going to be…


  49. 147
    Nelsonsgoodeye says:

    Labour and Islam. Closing pubs and turning them into mosques.


  50. 155
    Gordon says:

    I’m very sorry. I was pissed at the time.


  51. 162
    Bill Crombie says:

    It beggars belief that Millipede comes charging out as the White Knight and tries to advocate policies to save our pubs. A relaxation of the smoking ban would be a goodstart (Labour imposed bit of social engineering) and the beer tax escalator (again a Labour inspired lifestyle tax). This calibre of Labour MP typifies the low intellect of what now inhabits our Mother of Parliaments – there’s no hope!


  52. 172
    Richard Littlejohn@dailymail.co.uk says:

    I say I say I say he is funnier than Sue Perkins so why not give him a comedy show?


  53. 174
    Shooty* says:

    That is the worst fitting suit I have ever seen.


    • 175
      Gary Bloke says:

      That’s just what I thought. The jacket is very long. It also looks as if it is not from the same suit as the trousers. The tie fails to go the full distance to overlap the top of the trousers.


  54. 183
    Tailor says:

    More to the point, WTF is going on with that man’s suit? Did he drop 10 stone overnight?


  55. 186
    Concerned says:

    My local is up for sale, the landlord has retired and sold to a pubco, who promptly put it on the market. His dad bought it in the 1950s.

    I’d love to buy it ( affordable price ) but I know that I’d be slitting my own throat. It is/was a nice pub with pleasant people behind the bar and nice beer, but it has steadily lost custom down the years, hit by the double whammy of the smoking ban and recession. It isn’t overrun by chavs or ganstas, it is just a pleasant place to have a pint.

    It will now require substantial investment to bring it up to scratch and somewhere heated for the smokers to go.

    Thanks Blair and Brown, you bastards, you took away our Post Office now I’m going to lose my local.



    • 206
      Delboy says:

      Bloody hell mate. That pub is prime redevelopment.

      8/10 good sized modern flats there all with photovoltaic light bulbs and a bubble bath and you have got it made.

      Does it have a car park ?


  56. 195
    Father Preyer says:

    Why is he wearing Cyril Smith’s old suit?


  57. 198
    Gordon F Brown says:

    It doesn’t affect me because they won’t let me into pubs. Perhaps it’s just as well. I stole a big lump of their pensions and someone would be bound to remember. It could get nasty…


  58. 208
    Anonymous says:

    My father is 93 years old and a Burma Star veteran. He loved his daily visit to his working man’s club in Leeds where he could enjoy a pint of Tetley’s and his pipe of St Bruno in peace.
    The smoking ban finished that little pleasure for him and the club closed in 2009.


  59. 211
    Tom Bateman says:

    The “pub closure” stats are deeply flawed anyway. “Closure” includes pubs that change ownership and reopen serving food, and the figures ignore the rate of new pubs opening. All demonstrated back in 2009 by Mark Easton – and yet these “xx pubs closing per week” stories keep appearing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2009/07/pubs_arent_dying_they_are_evol.html


    • 214
      Pete Brown says:

      Tom Bateman you are as wrong as Guido himself. The pub closure figures are a net figure that takes into account reopenings. If you don’t believe me, phone CGA Strategy – the company that compiles the stats.


  60. 213
    Pete Brown says:

    Even though you have amended this article and removed some of its errors, you are still about as wrong as it is possible to be.

    Pub Companies are a direct result of Thatcher’s Beer Orders, passed in 1989, and were well established by the time Gordon Brown introduced Progressive Beer Duty in 2002. Just ask Ted Tuppen who created Enterprise – the UK’s biggest PubCo and seen by many as the villain of the piece in pub closures – in 1992.

    PBD has in fact been responsible for doubling the number of breweries in the UK in under ten years, many of whom have kept pubs open directly by buying sites the big boys didn’t want, and indirectly by creating a new surge of interest in craft beer and real ale.

    Pub closures are not party politically driven – both main parties have done a lot to damage pubs, and at other times, a lot to help them. You’re so blinded by hate you’ve lost your ability to look at a fairly cut and dried issue with any measure of clarity.


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