December 20th, 2013

MacShane Sentencing Today
Case for a Custodial Sentence

Denis MacShane is listed to be sentenced by Mr Justice Sweeney at Southwark Crown Court at 3pm today. The case for a custodial sentence is clear.

MacShane is guilty of false accounting, fiddling his expenses and defrauding taxpayers out of £12,900 in forged receipts. In November 2012 he was suspended from the Commons by the Standards and Privileges Committee, whose damning report concluded that his was “the gravest case which has come to us for adjudication”. MPs have gone down before, the authorities see MacShane as the worst of the lot.

 They found that he:

  • Claimed nearly £20,000 a year in expenses for an office based in the garage of his South Yorkshire home.
  • Signed claims with a “nom de plume” purporting to come from a General Manager who did not in fact exist.
  • Knowingly submitted nineteen false invoices over a period of four financial years which were plainly intended to deceive the Parliamentary expenses authorities.
  • Claimed thousands of pounds for eight computers that got ‘lost’ or were taken by interns.
  • Claimed £12,900 for invoices from his EPI slush fund. He didn’t provide a single receipt for payments.

MacShane abused his position as a public servant, forging receipts to deceive the authorities, costing the taxpayers and constituents he was supposed to serve thousands. It is true that MacShane has pleaded guilty – usually grounds for leniency – however he did so only after being charged and presented with the incontrovertible evidence of his forgeries. All of which he previously denied, spinning the most ludicrous cock and bull story. Mr Justice Sweeney should remind lawmakers that if they become lawbreakers the law will be unsparing. Only jail time will suffice…


  1. 1
    The Lobbyist says:

    Five years.


    • 3
      nell says:

      he’ll get sent to the same place huhne went where there were comfy cells a well stocked library and nice gardens to walk in and he’ll be home before Easter.


    • 5
      Judge Dread says:

      You have got to be kidding. As a high profile public servant he should be made an example of i.e. 10 years.


      • 33
        Judge Jeffreys says:

        I smell Treason. Pass me the Black Cap.


      • 142
        cynic says:

        He’s already had too many years of luxury at our expense. He should be hanged (by the slow and painful old method) outside Parliament and his body left to rot there as an example, and to demonstrate the stench of corruption that now pervades public life in Britain.


      • 174
        Bob says:

        Realistically, a simple formula for calculating the “tariff” – one month per thousand pounds. Multiply this by two, so that the thieves actually serve one month per thousand….

        McShane would go away for a real year. He shouldn’t be put into a “holiday camp” – Brixton or Wandsworth would be most appropriate – put in with the “general population”. He’d leave prison as a very “changed man”!

        By the same token, Bliar and Broon should be put away for the rest of their natural lives……


    • 27
      Kavanah QC says:

      As with the police, lawmakers breaking the law is an aggravated crime and merits stiffer penalties than normal.


      • 43
        M'Learned Friend says:

        It will be 6-9 months.


      • 53
        My More Learned Friend says:

        Chaytor = 18 months (guilty plea but judge probably p*ssed off by him taking bad point about parliamentary immunity)
        Illsley = 12 months (guilty plea)
        Morley = 16 months (guilty plea but judge probably p*ssed off by him taking bad point about parliamentary immunity)
        Devine = 16 months (no guilty plea, and the third of the muppets to have taken bad point about parliamentary immunity)
        Taylor = 12 months (no guilty plea)
        Hanningfield = 9 months (no guilty plea)
        So McShane will probably get 12 months. If the judge is feeling really kind it might be as low as 9.


      • 54
        Vicky McPryce says:

        I do love the criminal fraternity …


    • 40
      HangemHigh says:

      Bring back the death penalty.


      • 51
        Leftie bleeding heart cunt says:

        Criminals have rights too! Victims are all Thatcherites anyway. Murderers and r*pists deserve compassion.


        • 62
          Psyche the Dog says:

          Duck houses and cleaning ones moat around one’s pile in the country.
          McShame was not the only one, they have barely scratched the surface with the Tories, the trouble is Dave needs their votes. I wonder, will the UKippers will be as blatant with their “expenses” as Liebore and Cons have been, their EU record according to what Guido has previously post they have a bit of form in the EU parliament.


          • Idiot Watch says:

            There was no deceit involved in the cases of the Duck House or cleaning the moat. Not too subtle a difference that even you could understand.

            If you think the Tories are being especially treated then you are deluded.


    • 70
      Stir Time says:

      Thirty years – ask Biggs.


    • 93
      Jamie Reid says:

      A cheap holiday in other people’s misery


    • 136
      The BBC says:

      He’ll be a BBC advisor on the EU before Spring.


  2. 2
    nell says:

    would like to think his case is the end of it all but common sense says there are still others in parliament behaving dishonorably and dishonestly.


  3. 4
    Denis Denis Denis says:

    I feel like a kid on Christmas morning, creeping downstairs to see what Santa has brought me.


  4. 6
    Moran says:

    If in doubt plead insanity.


  5. 7
    Fuck the LibLabCon says:

    Please God, please make this Xmas a special one and send MacShame down.


    • 71
      Psyche the Dog says:

      He could pay the whole lot back, the tory get out of prison thing


      • 97
        A Right Fucking Bastard says:

        You’ve been told once already, you fucking Leftie nonce.

        The moat-cleaning/duck house brigade might be cvnts, but they’re not thieving cvnts.


        • 143
          Anonymous says:

          the expenses that leftie dick is talking about were never allowed.
          Smear smear smear its all labour can do

          Of the top ten troughers 9 were Labour

          Utter scumbags Labour


          • David Cameron, Arse Bandit Extraordinaire says:

            You! Yes, you boy! Clean my fooking wisteria, of my fooking chimney, and look fooking sharp about it!

            It’s all in the rules y’know.


        • 153
          Non taxable pikey says:

          I have asked the little brown hatter who purports to represent the local community and who has just charged the tax payer £4000 for his second home electricity bill if I can borrow the sit on lawnmower that I also paid for. So far no reply.


  6. 8

    Hang him, Your Honour.

    Twice, to make sure.


  7. 10
    Sick of them says:

    When are we going to see the expenses thief,Maria Miller arrested and charged?
    Appears to be a great reluctance on the part of IPSA to tackle her. They have obviously been warned off by the Government, not independent at all.


    • 35
      Lest we forget says:

      Whats happening with Lansleys ‘overnight accomodation’ expense claims ? Have they established whether he really did stay overnight in these hotels ? Have they bothered to look ? If not, why not ?


    • 55
      Jingle bells says:

      When you see the words “independent” used by the turds running the government, it just means we got some of our mates in at great expense to help their CV’s and to help us pretend to the plebs we are democratic and believe in justice,.


  8. 13
    Robbed by Labour says:

    Don’t hold your breath, he’s in the Labour party, it’s almost impossible to get sent to jail if you’re that left wing.

    “Lord” Ahmed actually killed a man and walked free. MacShane will get 200 hours community service or a conditional discharge.


    • 16
      Jack Dromey says:

      Ooh, I do like the sound of that! I always give Harriet a conditional discharge whilst thinking about Wesley Snipes.


    • 168
      David Cameron, Arse Bandit Extraordinaire says:

      He did not walk free, he was severely punished.

      He served 9 days.


  9. 14
    Burn Labour Burn says:

    I remember this disgusting evil piece of shit tried to spin the charges at the time by actually having the audacity to claim he was victim of a campaign by racists to stop him providing education on the Holocaust. The depravity of the man knows no bounds.


  10. 15
    Stupid Pleb says:

    Stop picking on the poor man Guido & Co. He is no different from all the others, just perhaps a little more energetic fraudster.

    Increase the pay of M.P.s to £1 million per year tax free immediately, in recognition of the excellent job they do in very trying circumstances. Even Gorgon attends occasionally in spite of his onerous other responsibilities.

    All the LibLabconners deserve our unwavering gratitude.


    • 87
      nothing sticks. says:

      nothing sticks like gum.
      tOO is a company.

      nothing sticks like gum up the bum. it is a hole afterall. a black hole.
      guido is a gum. folks are the rest. it is a package.


    • 98
      Greed Watch says:

      He is many things to many people, but I doubt very much that he is poor


  11. 17
    Burn Labour Burn says:

    Karma will get you, Moran. Watch out.


    • 127
      Village Idiot says:

      …..How we “tutted” when we heard about the terrible tragedies in that third world country, shoddy building etc,when the roof fell in..!!…….”Oh”, here?


  12. 18
    Vicky Pryce says:

    What’s your point?


  13. 19
    Pdubya says:

    I think, on any sort of calculation, Labour’s expenses in the last government were probably off the scale. Speaking of which when are we likely to get a peek at Blair’s and gorbals mick’s which accidentally got shredded?
    If not fully itemised there must be an electronic trail of some description.


    • 24
      Tony Blair, War Criminal says:

      There’s no electronic trail. I made sure of it. I’m a pretty straight kinda guy.


      • 39
        That Blair misled Parliament if 'beyond doubt' says:

        There will be an electronic trail, the hard drives will have everything they need.


      • 116
        The Report that the British Public will NEVER see published says:

        AND Chilcot will definitely confirm that Mr Blair acted in “good faith and in the national interest as he believed it to be at the time on the evidence before him” IF only they could find the report to actually publish it


  14. 20
    Santy Pantz says:

    "@RantyPantz_: "@MoodySlayerUK: Big day for @DenisMacShane. Hope he's packed his lube. #Porridge"//been getting these tweets for 3 years now— Denis MacShane (@DenisMacShane) December 19, 2013


  15. 23
    Mr Justice Floppyriste says:

    This man has done as much to undermine our democracy as is possible, short of helping Tony Blair change the fuse on his shredder. His utter betrayal of the public deserves a very stern sentence. I therefore order him to spend three weeks at Claridges tasting cocktails. Without canapes.


  16. 25

    Should Vicky Price be locked up as well on the basis of guilt by association?


    • 169
      David Cameron, Arse Bandit Extraordinaire says:

      Should be charged with living off immoral earnings. Surely she’s not sleeping with him for free?


  17. 28
    Keep it hidden says:

    Can BBC really report all day on that serious case review in Rochdale without mentioning the Muslim word?


  18. 29
    Sir Mary Flappes says:

    So far, the entire process has been run at MacShame’s convenience. Delaying for holidays etc. This should also reflect in the exemplary punitive sentence awarded. Light-fingered rat.


  19. 31
    Burn Labour Burn says:

    Off topic but some delightful karma I wish to share. Frances Crook, the utterly wretched bleeding heart cretin who’s spent her entire life protecting criminals through the Howard League, recently fell victim to three burglaries. She tweeted this, without the slightest hint of irony, and said she was having a burglar alarm installed and that she hated having one but had to give in after three burglaries. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving c-unt.


  20. 37
    albacore says:

    MPs’ expertise in diddling and fiddling
    Their perks and expenses is no more than piddling
    When compared with the rack and ruin that they’ve wrought
    On Great Britain, barefaced, yet without being caught
    For the British the last and best remaining hope
    Will start with every traitor swinging on a rope


  21. 41

    They all know just how small the risk of a real sentence is ,he will get the usual,two or three months in a protected wing of the cushiest open prison money can buy ,
    followed by a regular column in the guardian and appearances on the BBC .He will be out before the clocks go forward.


    • 45
      Burn Labour Burn says:

      Followed by fat payments to do Celebrity Big Brother and I’m a Celebrity, where he’ll be presented as a harmless “lovable rogue” rather than the nasty, venal, evil c-unt he is.


    • 102
      Anonymous says:

      Plus regular appearances on Sky to discuss “The Papers”


  22. 44
    JMF says:

    The Boy Milliband will more than likely make MacShane the next Shadow Chancellor when he decides to replace Twelvety Balls.


  23. 47
    john in cheshire says:

    Assuming he is imprisoned, will he still be made to repay all the monies he stole or does he emerge with a clean slate? If his stint in prison wipes his theft clean, that doesn’t seem fair to me.


  24. 48
    Burn Labour Burn says:

    My money’s on Eric Joyce having another drunken punch-up before the festive season is over.


    • 68
      Not an Al-Beeb Slave.... says:

      Nothing like some very enjoyable Festive Entertainment especially when
      its on You Tube for all to enjoy !!!

      Waiting in anticipation of good news…….


  25. 49
    A Maimed Badger says:

    I get the feeling, the general public would like to see a Politician treated as any benefit claimant who had defrauded the state, president has been set in the past. Taking into consideration his position and wealth / income which most do not have.


    • 59
      Justice we have none says:

      Two months, send him down, justice has been corrupted and taxpayers money wasted again,


      • 157
        cynic says:

        The balance of an appropriate sentence which the judge fails to apply, should be applied to the judge and the politically correct bureaucrats and politicians who prevented him from applying it to this criminal.


  26. 50
    • 146
      Anonymous says:

      trouble is when they asked then people on them 80% liked them for the flexibility

      Oh and you forgot one thing they were invented under the last Labour government and are slowly being phased out by this one.

      Other than that good attempt at a smear…wanker!!


      • 165
        Liblabconners go to hell says:

        ‘80% like them’. Yeh right. Cos nothing says flexibility like not knowing if you’re getting any wages this week.

        Another apologists for sh1tty employers taking their employees for a ride.
        Companies paying minimum wage are already getting the tax payer to subsides their wage bill through benefits and top ups. What more do these shysters want?


  27. 52
    Cato Street Conpirator says:

    Contemptible person.


  28. 56
    Tachybaptus says:

    Is Guido getting paid for adverts by Auto Trader, that well known sister publication to the Guardian?

    Tut tut.


  29. 57
    Psyche the Dog says:

    Hi there you guys is this Dave in drag or Catherine the Great, inspit of a slight 5o’clock shadow it is Catherine the Great.

    Sophie Gadd ‏@sophie_gadd

    This painting of an 18th century woman totally looks like David Cameron in drag


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    This painting of an 18th century woman totally looks like David Cameron in drag


  30. 61
    Joe Public & will be Voting UKIP.ORG says:

    Will the special handshake & rolled up trouser leg come to his aid
    with a very soft term at Her Majesty’s Pleasure, if at all ???

    Just look how helpful they’ve been in Hampshire before that case
    even gets to Court and is history going to be repeated ??


  31. 63
    Realist says:

    We have finally arrived at the tipping point whereby the masses are waking up to the fact that the so-called 1% have been rigging the system to ensure that wealth stays in the hands of the elite. The world is controlled and run by bankers.
    Most governments are run and controlled by banks. Those countries that have stood against the western banking system over the years, have been overthrown with a little help from the west. If the masses had any inkling of the crimes inflicted on them by western governments, there would be a mass revolt. As the truth starts coming out, people are going to have their belief systems severely challenged. This lifting of the veil is necessary to allow a complete renaissance to occur. Those in power cannot stop what is going to happen. Let us hope they surrender peaceably.


    • 73
      Idiot Watch says:

      If wealth was not in the hands of the elite then they wouldn’t be the elite would they?

      Realist my arse, you just want to get your idle grubby little hands on other peoples’ gold.


    • 83
      Surrealist says:

      I’m afraid it has always been thus…and it will continue to be.


    • 89
      Anon.... says:

      But would the lifting of the stone & the oxygen of publicity have happened
      WITHOUT the internet ?? I very much doubt it

      What platform would Guido have to use without cyber space ??

      How much longer will the membership,influence & control by the elite
      through the special handshake lodges be allowed to continue ??

      Hopefully not that much longer……..


      • 135
        Village Idiot says:

        …Yes, the internet has exposed the weaknesses in our so called.”Educated Elite” ,in every aspect of public life and,so called elite proffessions,e.g. surgeons,consultants,police,politicians,they have been exposed as cover up merchants and fraudsters,and incompetent to boot,getting by on past glories’ such as their education,which seems to desensitise them to “right and wrong”,competence and incompetence,and any moral standing at all,seemingly preferring to turn a blind eye! ….(just my opinion,i wish I was wrong)


    • 107
      Sir William Wayde says:

      Governments are only controlled by banks because they are unable to manage their own spending. If you can’t match your spending to your income, you will end up a slave to moneylenders.


    • 117
      Apathy UK...the leading UK political party says:

      Sorry no revolution ..we’re getting too excited about the Final of Strictly and the Christmas Omnibus of Eastenders to arse about taking to the streets


  32. 64
    Do,rightly says:

    Send him to Romania.


  33. 67
    nellnewman says:

    I watched the debate on food banks, and heard the barracking and the laughter from the government benches; I watched the ghastly McVile (no typo) lie, obfuscate, and distract, while her ghastlier boss sat grinning; I watched them slope off 15 minutes later, no doubt to enjoy food we pay for that they know is no more than a dream for the poorest and most vulnerable in this, the seventh richest country on the planet


  34. 72
    Arthur says:

    What attracts Vicky Pryce to these criminal types. I suppose she’ll be writing love letters to Charles Manson and Peter Sutcliffe next.


  35. 76
    Anonymous says:

    Jail time is far too lenient for anyone supporting any aspect of the liblabcon regime.


  36. 78
    Anonymous says:

    Don’t know why you’re getting excited about this Guido. He’ll get a desultory jail term, then cash in writing articles for the Guardian and appearing on the BBC as some kind of ‘expert’.


  37. 80
    Wait - what! says:

    He’ll get 6 months and he’ll be out in 4.
    The BBC will proclaim this as justice.


    • 92
      Denis Denis Denis says:

      No, the BBC will make out it’s too harsh and ask if a custodial sentence was really called for, as they did with Huhne.


      • 101
        Wait - what! says:

        Agreed, then they’ll offer him plenty of slots to appear on their multitude of channels, ferry him to and fro and slowly reintegrate him until it would seem that nothing had happened.


      • 106
        Not the Al-Beeb Spokesperson.... says:

        One months sentence suspended for 6 months will be more than enough
        in our biased opinion !!

        After which he will be back on the highly paid media gravy train, what
        better use can there be for the TV Tax (every one is forced to pay)??


    • 119
      All socialists are hypocrites says:

      He’ll be a regular guest on BBC Current Affairs and Politics Show when he’s out…mark my word


  38. 90
    Pork Dodgers says:

    I wonder if he will get to share a cell with some muzzies?


  39. 99
    Rick O'Shea says:

    He carries a life sentence of shame. only extensive plastic surgery and a deed poll name change can help him.


    • 109
      Suicide Bomb says:

      The problem is, none of these types have any shame.


      • 118
        Wait - what! says:


        shame [ʃeɪm]
        1. a painful emotion resulting from an awareness of having done something dishonourable, unworthy, degrading, etc.
        2. capacity to feel such an emotion
        3. ignominy or disgrace
        4. a person or thing that causes this
        5. an occasion for regret, disappointment


  40. 103
    Ambrose Pilchard Evans says:

    Poor man. I am sure it was all merely oversight, the pressure of work, The euro is dead, Jeremy Wanker is a Genius. The DT goes from strength to strength.


  41. 104
    Sir William Wayde says:

    This is hardly an occasion for celebration. We have to face the reality that several of our elected members, none of whom needed the money, thought there was nothing wrong with systematic forgery, lying and peculation – and these MPs still have an affronted air, as if they had been caught with their parked car bumper protruding two inches over a yellow line.


  42. 112
    Gordon Brown says:

    I wish you all a happy christmas.


    • 114
      Anonymous says:

      Did you enjoy the play last night, Gordon?


      • 115
        Fabians are Evil says:

        Yep old gordon brought the house down


        • 120
          The bastard has form says:

          “He worked for the BBC from 1969 to 1977,[10] including as a newsreader and reporter on Wolverhampton Wanderers for BBC Radio Birmingham. He changed his surname to his mother’s maiden name at the request of his employers. He was fired by the BBC after using a fake name to call the radio phone-in programme he worked on at the time. During the call, MacShane accused leading Conservative politician Reginald Maudling of being a crook, with the MP threatening to sue as a result”


          • cynic says:

            Er… wasn’t Reggie closely associated with ‘Do you sincerely want to be rich?’ Bernie Cornfeld?


          • Psyche the Dog says:

            What did for Reggie was some sort involvement with Poulson over some construction project in Malta or Cyprus, once it came out Reggie went downhill with the worry.


  43. 121
    • 124
      CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

      The BBC really do want people to hate them.
      The Left can’t help but destroy themselves (as well as everyone else).


    • 125
      I want to know says:

      Why hasn’t he been arrested yet?


      • 128
        Arthur says:

        There are only two plausible answers:-

        The first and by far the most likely is that Plod and the CPS are loathe to take on extremist Muslims because the are frightened of a backlash it may provoke.

        The other is that Choudhary is some kind of MI5 plant to attract other radicals that may be unknown to them.


        • 133
          Denis Denis Denis says:

          Or like the rest of the public sector they’re hamstrung by multiculturalist PC and want to bend over backwards for the religion of peace.


  44. 122
    Now in custody says:

    How come no Bankers got put away, or did they make their millions legally, knowing the taxpayer would bail them out. Gordon should have let Northern Rock go under, like hundreds of other non banking sector companies went under and no government interference there. Oh for the days back in the sixties when you brought home a wage packet and the only people who had a bank account had a few bob. Anyway, all politicians are the same……….Greedy bastards, the lords as well, £300.00 a day to fall asleep in a leather chair!!!


  45. 126
    Hoddy says:

    “however he did so only after being charged ”
    So you’d only want to offer FULL leniency if he had pled guilty prior to being charged?
    Pre-emptive pleading… a new concept in jurisprudence. ;-)

    Ask anyone with anything to do with criminal law: never plead guilty ’till the case is about to go ahead. The Police and CPS are _very_ capapble of losing all the evidence or dropping the case for no apparent reason, right up to the 11th hour.


    • 131
      Denis Denis Denis says:

      Why should people get reduced sentences for pleading guilty if they only do it to get reduced sentences? Wasn’t the point originally that they’d owned up and shown remorse by doing so?


      • 139
        Hoddy says:

        It saves Court time.
        Pure and simple. Else you’d have miscreants demanding a full jury trial for even clear cut cases (on the ground that it messes with ‘the man’ and some juries are crazy enough to let Crippen walk).

        So you get a maximum discount off tariff of 1/3rd for _early_ guilty plea, which scales down depending how late a plea is made.

        Early guilty plea is taken as ‘at first appearance in court at which the charge is put’. Which is why canny Defence briefs will ask not to enter a plea at early hearings and hope to bang one in on a day when the CPS fail to turn up.

        Days when the CPS fail to turn up (or have the wrong papers or haven’t read the papers) are easy to spot on a court roster – those are the days with a Y in them.


  46. 132
    Ed Milliband says:

    The UK economy is growing faster than previously estimated, according to the latest official figures.

    For Christ sake Balls, do something………..


  47. 134
    altruism in industry says:


  48. 138
    sproggingforbenefits says:

    Are all #Labour MP’s splodgers & corrupt?


  49. 140
    Frank says:

    he should be hanged after his role as Europe Minister under Blair. His expenses cost to the taxpayer pales into insignificance with what Labour cost the country with the EU.


  50. 144
    C.O.Jones says:

    If he stole the money to give to food banks then he should be let off and returned to parliament.


  51. 145
    Sunderland is a Labour ghetto thats why its shyte says:

    If this tosser escapes an immediate custodial sentence then that itself is a crime,he should get at least a year but I wont be holding my breath,he is still tweeting,his hubris has no end,he complains about the tweets as if he is hard done by,Mr Justice Sweeney your duty is clear send the bastard down!


  52. 173

    He’ll be home for Christmas, of course. Innit a bleedin’shame?


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