November 5th, 2013

Another Major Intervention

You wait ten years for John Major to say something interesting, and then you get him twice. The former PM has let the cat out of the bag, again, this time on the view of many Tories on Scottish Freedom:

“From a purely partisan political point of view, the Conservative party would be much better placed without Scotland because some where down the line we have mislaid our Scottish votes.”

For once, Sir John will have lots of his fellow party members secretly agreeing with him.


  1. 1
    kmc says:

    “From a purely partisan political point of view, the Conservative party would be much better placed without Scotland David Cameron because some where down the line we have mislaid our Scottish votes.”

  2. 2
    Asslick Almond says:


  3. 3
    Stop your tickling Jock!. says:

    Och aye!

  4. 4
    JR says:


    If Scotland votes for Independence (sadly I doubt they will) does that mean all those MPs of Scottish nationality can no longer remain in those English seats?

  5. 5
    I just don't get it. says:

    Can someone please explain why Scotland after regaining its independence, plans to immediately sign it over to a foreign power?

  6. 6
    WelshRacer says:

    Scotland will never forgive the Conservative Party for the Poll Tax.

  7. 7
    Manmohan Singh says:

    Soon we shall open the first convenience store on Mars!

  8. 8
    Herman van Rumpboy says:

    Bigger trough ?

  9. 9
    Prime Minister David Cameron says:

    And it’s goodbye from me

    YouGov/Sun poll: CON 33%, LAB 40%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 12%

  10. 10
    Joss Ayinglike says:

    I’ve never forgiven the Romans for what Julius Caesar did.

  11. 11
    Someone says:

    Party above country. The instincts of the party politicians shine through as usual.

  12. 12
    United, just a joke not a union says:

    Camoron has proved we are not a United Kingdom, his Scottish referendum is totally against what Britain used to stand for, equality and honesty, the snake oil salesman and Camoron should be ashamed of themselves for the way they have set this referendum up, it will come back and bite them on the ar5se.

  13. 13
    Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

    and it’s hello from me :)

  14. 14
    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    The further away from London you go the less the Tory party is considered worth voting for. Many a long way outside London would never dream of voting Tory but they might vote UKIP. As Miliband moves more and more to the left UKIP can step in and take those Labour marginals unless idiots vote Tory and let Ed in.

    Don’t forget a vote for the Tories will let Red Ed get in Number Ten.

  15. 15
    Jimmy's shadow says:

    I sincerely hope so!

    They will not be English nationals but scotch nationals and as such would not be allowed to serve in an English parliament.

    I beleive it takes around 10 years of living in the UK before one can apply for UK citzenship.

  16. 16
    Steve Miliband says:

    I hear Ed Miliband will be making a speech today on his specialist subject; stating the bleedin obvious.

  17. 17
    Anglo-Scot says:

    Many will be dual nationals.

  18. 18
    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    Nor will many Northerners. That is why UKIP stand a much better chance of ousting Labour from Northern Labour-held seats.

  19. 19
    Lord Stansted says:

    Those who were agin the Poll Tax aka Community Charge were thick. The Poll Tax was easy to avoid, whereas the Council Tax isn’t.

  20. 20
    Cynic says:

    …fudned by you

  21. 21
    UK 1st says:

    The rest of Britain will never forgive Scotland for Blair and Brown or the rest of the Scottish mafia that ruined the country socially, economically and culturally.

  22. 22
    Jock McSubsidy says:

    Aye, they were shocked at having to raise money for the services they used instead of being subbed the cash straight from London

  23. 23
    Cynic says:

    Major “Great to see India successfully launch a Mars Probe”

    Salmond “Aye. Can ye deep fry it?”

  24. 24
    bergen says:

    If Scotland voted yes in 2014 and Labour won the UK general election of 2015 with a majority less than the number of its Scottish seats , we’ll have a spectacularly unstable period of government whilst the settlement is sorted out.

  25. 25
    Fruitcake Alert says:

    Cameron polls better than his party. It’s the Conservative Party that puts people off, not Dave.

  26. 26
    JR says:

    Yep but if you want to sit in a Parliament then you should decide and resign one. I suspect they will go for the one with the biggest pay packet and perks!

  27. 27
    Cynic says:

    ” Working families …… cost of living ……freeze prices …….soak the rich …… invest in benefits …..nothing wrong in Falkirk ….my friend Len ……… raise wages with no inflation …….. “

  28. 28
    Genghiz the kahn says:

    Don’t they make a lovely pair?

  29. 29
    Cynic says:

    Bring it on

    How long does it take to say ‘Goodbye. Here’s the bill for your share the National Debt now sod off”

  30. 30
    Boris says:

    You mean I won’t be able to run for President and be PM?

  31. 31
    Sir Crispin Slapentickell says:

    I say, Salmond’s quite a squat and obese sort

  32. 32
    lies says:

    Nah. That’s just on the crib card that the BBC hands out to its mewsreaders

  33. 33
    Bird Fancier says:

    Mr Ed Millionaireband is a much misunderstood penguin.

  34. 34
    Boris Carloff says:

    surely, with our technology of togay its not impossible to dig a huge trench around about were the Roman Wall cut Britain in two and with the aid of Rockets propel further north by about twenty mile, and get rid of them once and for all, as I am sure England would prosper better without them and get rid of the worries of the damage the Labour Idiots all in one go. With the biggest benefit of all being that the fool and imbecile Gordon Brown would live on a different island.

  35. 35
    cotedebeaune says:

    Gordon Brown signed the Lisbon Treaty. His party created Regional Development Agencies (EU NUTS).


    New Labour disunited the UK and deregulated to the point of no return, whilst also hollowing out the Public Sector and bypassing the Civil Service.

    As a member of The Socialist International his party created this mess.

    What we’re seeing in the UK, and across the EU, is deconstruction of the nation states into NUTS (NUTS = ~6 million) and “market forces”, with politicians serving as theatrical performers or, paradoxically, Libertarian legislators.

  36. 36
    Casual Observer 3 says:

    The Tories scuppering their vote in Scotland and then peddling the independence argument is somewhat transparent.

    The question really is: Why are they not competing to win votes ? Even UKIP are visibly trying to do that.

    Major is looking to profit and has no real part in public life. That he has crawled out of the woodwork at the same time Bla!r is attempting to influence UK moves betrays who he really works for. The trail leads back to B’ush, C’heney and the C’lintons. Look deeper into what Carlyle are all about.

    Major perhaps sees more profit in carving up post independence S’cottish industry which will happen post independence.

  37. 37
    DfID says:

    No, we’ll fund it, it’s only fair.

  38. 38
    Alec Salmonella says:

    I need the EU dosh. Can’t carry out my ridiculous promises to an uneducated Scottish electorate without the euros flowing in. Plain simple really.

  39. 39
    JOHN MAJOR says:

    “No Alex , I’ve not eaten Curry for years”

  40. 40
    Get it right, lad says:

    He failed whereas Claudius did not.

  41. 41
    mad, swivel-eyed loon says:

    We don’t have a Tory party anymore.

  42. 42
    cotedebeaune says:

    Good point, but does it go far enough? England has been Balkanised into Regional Development Agencies or Eurostat NUTS of about 6 million each (like Scotland). Hence some live in London ‘ overseen’ by light-touch Mr Johnson. They don’t live in England. The rest of the EU NUTS are slowly becoming aware of their isolation too. Is it for the best, or is it just in the best interests of those who benefit from milking consumers as shareholders, many of whom may not be domiciled here, that is the question. There can be no national Public Sector ultimately. How could there be, if there is no nation?

  43. 43
    Indian Political Mafia says:

    Spreading corruption to other planets is what we do.

  44. 44
    Westminster says:

    “Working breakfasts……costa coffees… pies…. soaked in brandy…..perks and benefits…..nothing wrong in freeloading…….my free lunch….. wage rises with no scrutiny

  45. 45
    Scotty Dog says:

    But Scotland has to surrender its Independence and Independence to determine its own fate (nowt wrong with that) is what the Scottish Independence Party is fighting for.

  46. 46
    Red Ed Milibandwagon and Unions-BBC says:

    And a big HELLO from me, you poor (soon to be poorer than now) suckers.

  47. 47
    Just Saying says:

    UKIP are owned by their own rhetoric. Don’t expect common sense policies though.

  48. 48
    History says:

    Educated under Labour. Soon the whole country will be as ignorant of our history.

  49. 49
    Pundit too too says:

    More like bleeding the country totally dry.

  50. 50
    History says:

    It took Londoners to force the changes.

  51. 51
    The 90% who don't vote UKIP says:

    Vote UKIP get Labour.

  52. 52
    Boris and Nick says:

    We disagree

  53. 53
  54. 54
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Ecoloons says:

    What the hell is Salmond doing taking advice from a man who led the Tories to their biggest ever defeat?

  55. 55
    Vlad the Loudhailer says:

    And the English will never forgive Scotland for Gordon Brown.

  56. 56
    Old Hal says:

    Little Johnny Major AIB, seems to be getting very philosophical these days, a case of a politician realising that there is another world apart from Westminster

  57. 57
    Anonymous says:

    That was reported at the time.. two weeks ago..

  58. 58
    Living in 98.11% white Merseyside says:

    I quite liked that nice Mr Major when he first became PM.

  59. 59
    HEARDITALL says:

    The answer to this is the election of an English parliament with fully devolved powers , the one thing that is feared most in Westminster and Brussels.
    It would be packed to the rafters with UKIP and true Conservatives they would tell them what to do with their smoking bans , their health and safety regulations , their European arrest warrants , their pervert weddings, their H2S
    and their mass immigration and stick the lot up their treacherous arses.

  60. 60
    David Bouvier says:

    In the 2010 General Election:

    Conservatives – 412,000 votes, 1 seat
    LibDems – 465,000 votes, 11 seats
    SNP – 491,000 votes, 6 seats

    In the last Scottish parliamentary elections, the Conservatives had double the vote and three times the seats of the Liberal Democrats.

    It is unthinking rubbish to say that there is no Conservative vote in Scotland – it just isn’t concentrated enough to win many seats.

  61. 61
    Steve says:

    Let the Scots leave please, save us taxes and get rid of Labour MP’s at Westminster. Double whammy! Give the English a vote of Scottish Independence and it would be overwhelming yes vote!

  62. 62
    Government Censorship says:

    Major works for a private equity firm which specializes in military systems: hardware through mercenaries.

    If Scotland gets independence it’s first order of business will be security.

    This is quite simply an indirect sales pitch from Major. Look closer one may even see a brown envelope or two in Salmond’s pocket to sweeten certain future deals.

    Those who work in the arms industry are not best placed to be advising on issues of national independence.

  63. 63
    Bird fancier says:

    Misunderstood Dodo more like…

  64. 64
    Watcher says:

    Vote Conservative, get Labour.

  65. 65
    Bob Fleming says:


  66. 66
    Rob says:

    So who do those former Tory voters vote for now? The SNP is left-wing, Scottish Labour is far-left, Liberal Democrats are just mentally ill.

  67. 67
    Chatham House Rules says:

    Whatever goes beyond Carlisle, stays Carlyle

  68. 68
    i don't n eed no doctor says:

    Two backstabbers photographed together.

  69. 69
    Ed Miliband says:

    They won’t let me play.

  70. 70
    Realist says:

    We might all as well just vote Labour then. But one thing is unavoidable – UKIP can’t form a government; UKIP most likely won’t even get 1 MP. All a vote for UKIP does is increase the chance of a Lab-Lib coalition or a Labour majority. If that’s what you want, because you hate the Tories and/or Cameron, or you don’t see any difference between the “LibLabCon”, or you want to “send a message” about gay marriage etc then fine. Just don’t come squealing in 2 years time when you’re not happy with Len McCluskey dictating government policy. Those of us who are fighting hard to stop that from happening will remember you.

  71. 71
    NE Frontiersman says:

    @6: It was indeed a breach of the Act of Union, which promised standard taxation across the Union, but was bench-tested in Scotland first. An historic blunder and act of arrogance. The Tories made their luck in Scotland, as Major well knows. Did they not command half the Scottish vote as recently as the early 60s?

  72. 72
    cynic says:

    It only puts off lefties, not real people.

  73. 73
    John Tandy says:

    The Scots will never vote for independence they know where their bread is buttered !!!

  74. 74
    Tory c'unts, Labour c'unts, they're all the same c'unts says:

    Still don’t get it do you, thicko.

  75. 75
    Man of Kent says:

    We had the poll tax in England, you know!

  76. 76
    mraemiller says:

    If you want to I’ll change the situation,
    Right people, right time, just wrong location,
    I’ve got a good idea,
    Just you keep me near,
    I’ll be so good for you.

    I could be so good for you,
    I’m gonna help ya!
    Love you like you want me to,
    I’ll do anything for you-ou,
    I’ll be so good for you.

    I could be so good for you,
    I’ll do it like you want me to,
    Love you like you want me to,
    There ain’t nothing I can’t go through-ough,
    I’ll be so good for you.

    Some time when you’re feeling like a poor relation,
    Call on me and I’ll give you more than conversation,
    Take ’em, shakin’ hands — a deal
    And move it brother — I’ll make you heel.
    I’ll be so good for you

    I could be so good for you,
    I’ll be there right by your side,
    Love you like you want me to,
    There ain’t nothing you can hide from me,
    I’ll be so good for you

    …with appologies to Thames Television

  77. 77
    Rob Roy says:

    Speak up Johnny Major !

  78. 78
    HEARDITALL says:

    The wall is well inside England

  79. 79
    Keitho says:

    You should be writing screenplays for TV man.

  80. 80
    Anonymous says:

    No,hence why those c***s in the Labour and Conservative party keep telling us “Better Together”.

  81. 81
    Jackie treehorn says:

    At the independence lead up it’s going to be delicious watching the socialist running around in a panic desperately trying to put out the fire they started with devolution.
    If they go indy Labour will be finished in England and if they don’t we can all laugh at
    the Scots Nats for failing to convince their countrymen to follow their pipedream.

  82. 82
    Hacked Off says:

    Bitter Together.

  83. 83
    Hacked Off says:

    We didn’t start the fire, No we didn’t light it. But we tried to fight it.

  84. 84
    Anonymous says:

    They know where the deep fried mars bars are buried…

  85. 85
    The longer the suppression the bigger the backlash says:

    Because they they The Irish The Welsh And the rest of thee EUSSR will have achieved their main aim, the destruction of the English people in Their Country through regions.
    In their stupid deluded F*****G dreams.

  86. 86
    Related by DNA to the Chedder Man says:

    Never forgiven the invading Celts

  87. 87
    Related by DNA to the Chedder Man says:

    Could you imagine the cartoons the next day, mine would a Scotsman with his kilt lifted, and an Englishman saying that we always new they would not have the Balls to go through with it.

  88. 88
    Clegg will be in coalition again says:

    Don’t forget-I stay in power regardless

  89. 89

    Will he help rebuild Hadrians Wall?

  90. 90
    Cynic says:

    “Why am I always behind the big boys Mummy”

  91. 91
    Cynic says:

    Ed in ‘wrong trousers’ gaffe again

  92. 92
    Jock McGrunt says:

    Ha ha f****** ha!

  93. 93
    Hammer of the Scotch says:

    Not long – Fu*k off jock suits!

  94. 94
    Call me Dave says:

    You win some you lose some!

  95. 95
    Tight tw** Edwina says:

    Little Johnny M* really wasn’t worth a F**k!

  96. 96
    Anonymous says:

    MRS THATCHER lost Scotland. One of her many cock ups.

  97. 97
    Lying bastard watch says:

    Observe the disgraceful comments of Kenny MacAskill over the corroboration controversy. This aspect of Scots law is to many its defining feature and one which gives Scots Law its uniqueness when comparred to English and Welsh Law.
    So it came as no surprise that when the edict came down from the European Court of human rights that this requirement was somehow ‘illegal’ and had to go that the SNP protested most loudly that this was a necessary part of Scots law and they would be appealing this decision.

    Unfortunately they pretty quickly realised that they were helpless to do anything in the face of the EUSSR domination of our way of life.

    They then changed tact. Rather than have people see that the Scottish Government were/are infact powerless to prevent he EUSSR having its way, they now pretend it was their idea to get rid off it all the taime as ,in the words of MacAskill ‘Corroboration has failed Scotland’ . This revealed him to be a lying bastard as well as a right fucking idiot.

    Thats the truth of the so called ‘independence’ that the SNP promise.

  98. 98
    Mote in your own eye watch says:

    And we in Scotland will never forgive England for giving us the likes of Ed Balls, Harriet Harman, David Blunket, Arthur Scargill, john Prescott, Bob Crowe, the spy Jack Jones, Miliband, Mandleson and if course Alistair Campbell amongst many.

  99. 99
    What a Tit watch says:

    Nice one you thick as pig shit English geographical ignoramous you have just ceded most of Northumbria to Scotland. What a Tit !

  100. 100
    What Salmond really means says:

    The Scots will never vote for independence , they may well vote for greater enslavement to Brussels under the guise of independence mind you.

  101. 101
    Side splitting laughter says:

    Fucking hilarious you are. Does you English cartoons involve morris dancers by any chance ?

  102. 102
    Thick c unt watch says:

    You do realise that rebuilding Hadrians wall will represent a sucessfull invasion of England in which most of Northumbria is ceded to Scotland. You do actually realise that before you open your thick gob and spew shite out it do you ?

  103. 103
    HEARDITALL says:

    No you did not, you had the community charge whereby all the benefit scrounging twats were expected to pay their share!!!

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