October 7th, 2013

When Adam Afriyie Didn’t Care About a Referendum

Guess who abstained from the 2011 Tory EU rebellion that was calling for an EU Referendum? Someone who has made a lot of noise about the need for an EU referendum before the election and should not have been worrying about possible career progression under Cameron enough to vote against what he believes is a vital issue. Slow clap for Adam Afriyie.


  1. 1
    Toxic Labour scum trashed my Country says:

    Would you trust any politician?


    • 9
      I says:

      If Cameron had placed a question mark by his name, none of this would have happened.


    • 26
      Milipede says:

      Please lay off Adam. He is my new best friend in the whole wide world.


    • 59
      surlyscot says:

      definitely NOT – HOWEVER – none of these scummy apologies for human beings have ever been honest with the public about the corrupt EU which is determined to go for ever closer ‘union’ (whatever that means) the UK apparently does not want to go down that road, so why does’nt Cameron and Co spell out the alternative for the UK??
      ignorant twats that’s why.


    • 64
      Anonymous says:

      Below, are the 43 areas of ‘competence’, areas we British have been declared incompetent to decide for ourselves subject to approval, by majority vote of the lying undemocratic and unelected bastards fronting the EU.
      They call it QMV, Quality Majority Voting, which translates in English to: You’ll do what we tell you, or else.
      Heath – Thatcher – Major – Blair – Brown, are all, by allowing this, acting in High Treason, but as every important Government post is now held by an EU Common Purpose trained thug, waiting to take over from elected local government officials from 1st November 2014, there seems to be little we can do about it. On the 1st November 2014 the right of Parliament to legislate over us in 43 areas, the important ones, will be removed and be made
      Below, are the 43 areas of ‘competence’, areas we British have been declared incompetent to decide for ourselves.

      Make a note of the last one because it says we cannot leave the EU unless the other members allow it.

      On 1st November 2014 the following areas of competence will switch from requiring unanimous approval of all member states to qualified majority voting only:
      (43) Initiatives of the High Representative for Foreign Affairs – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Administrative co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Asylum – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
      Border controls – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Citizens’ initiative regulations – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Civil protection – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Committee of the Regions – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Common defence policy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Crime prevention incentives – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Criminal judicial co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Criminal law – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Culture – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Diplomatic & Consular protection – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon: QMV
      Economic & Social Committee – Nice: QMV Lisbon: QMV
      Emergency international aid – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon: QMV
      Energy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      EU budget – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Eurojust – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      European Central Bank – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      European Court of Justice – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Europol – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Eurozone external representation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Foreign Affairs High Representative election – Lisbon: QMV
      Freedom of movement for workers – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Freedom to establish a business – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon QMV
      Freedom, security, justice, co-operation & evaluation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Funding the Common Foreign & Security Policy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      General economic interest services – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Humanitarian aid – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Immigration – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
      Intellectual property – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Organisation of the Council of the EU – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Police co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      President of the European Council election – Lisbon: QMV
      Response to natural disasters & terrorism – Lisbon: QMV
      Rules concerning the Armaments Agency – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Self-employment access rights – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Social Security Unanimity – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
      Space – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Sport – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Structural & Cohension Funds – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Tourism – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Transport – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
      Withdrawal of a member state – Lisbon: QMV

      Therefore, all Cameron has to do is keep stalling over a referendum, which if he were to call one, would enable any of us to arrest him for High Treason.


    • 75
      Pullthisoneorboth. says:

      He’s the UK’s New Obama. I like the look of him, I think.


  2. 2
    Toxic Labour scum trashed my Country says:

    When will Belsen Burnham be prosecuted for the mass murder of NHS patients?


  3. 3
    Gadarene fuckpigs of multiplicity says:

    Is there a crane big enough to lift the Palace of Westminster over into the Thames?


    • 50
      Adam Gerrys says:

      Probably not but as old Guido knows there is a lot of semtex left over from the “peace process”, sadly most of the guns went to the drug lords of Liverpool and Manchester.


  4. 4
    You won't see this on Newsnight says:

    Beeb executives have kept the findings of an explosive 109-page report under wraps for nearly a year.

    The confidential document, called Bullying And Harassment At The BBC, outlines a series of allegations.

    One said a news executive offered a female journalist promotion if she had sex with him.

    And a senior manager was said to have received a pay-off despite sending “filthy” messages to two female graduates.


  5. 5
    P l e b says:

    The Telegraph are this morning touting the potential return to the front bench of Liam Fox in Cameron’s reshuffle.

    If true, there could be no clearer sign that this government is exhausted of talent and morally bankrupt.


    • 76
      Llareggub says:

      I thought that was much more strongly demonstrated by the return of David Laws to cabinet, having been required to sit in the naughty corner for a few months for an embezzlement that would have landed anybody from any other walk of life in jail.


  6. 7
    Gadarene fuckpigs of multiplicity says:

    Surely, they should not have given MPs iPads but vuvuzelas?


  7. 10
    P l e b says:

    Cameron and a reshuffle – Titanic and deckchairs


    • 33
      Still Waiting says:

      By 2015 the national debt Cameron inherited from fcukwit Brown will have doubled.

      Will some silly troll try and impress me, with the difference between any part of the LabLibCon-trick?


  8. 11

    Is his majority under threat from UKIP?


    • 39
      Great Granddad says:

      Yes indeed. U.K.I.P. could well hold the balance of power in a new hung government.


      • 46
        Living in 98.221% white Merseyside says:

        Not with poor old Nige still in charge. He has his Stan Laurel look on his face almost permanently these days.


      • 51
        Anonymous says:

        The Conservatives strategy of trying to ignore discussing the European Union with voters is rapidly unravelling…..

        Conservatives are terrified the plebs will wake up and realize when all 3 parties are pro EU, and 70%+ of laws influenced / controlled by the EU…

        That the plebs will realise there are no substantive policy differences between any of the LibLabCon.

        Conference season has brought into sharp focus how little policy any of the LibLabCon can change.. hence we see claim and counter claim that they each occupy the “centre ground”.

        In reality, they all occupy the same European Union controlled ground… And playing about at the edges with 30% of legislation doesnt make a political party or a set of coherent and believable policies which are sufficiently different, from the supposed opposition parties.

        The LibLabCon one EU policy fraud, is unravelling before their eyes and the establishment is desperate to stop it…

        Cue Ken Clarke in the Telegraph yesterday doing his bit to ensure his dark secrets stay in the dark…


      • 69
        Llareggub says:

        Not unless they actually win a seat, which remains very unlikely.


  9. 12
    Cloney says:

    Keep it to yourselves, but I’m being reshuffled into the position of Chancellor.

    I have no prior experience in the financial sector, nor do I have any qualifications above high school level in the relevant fields. And yet I’m still more qualified than Giddy


  10. 14
    Toby Latimer says:

    I’m past caring to be honest who gets what job in Daves power trip.I’ll never notice a difference of improvement to my life whoever get the ministerial limo. I wouldn’t be surprised if the talentless McVey gets promoted for the vile lies she has repeated parrot like at the behest of IDS, and the abusive slurs about disabled people getting better. To be rewarded for being so cruel and stupid is par for the course for this shower, but what the heck ? Wake me when the whole bunch get turfed out on their arses in 2015


  11. 16
    Spakko says:

    Adam Afriye, the Conservative Party’s version of Dr Evan Harris or Peter Hain.


  12. 17
    Joe Public & who will be Voting UKIP.ORG in huge numbers says:

    A typical dupli*citous 2 faced mem*ber of HoC who’s collective modus

    operandi is “Don’t do as we do, do as we say……. ”

    That’s my 3P’s worth……


  13. 18
    The British media are cunts says:

    Is he the new British Obama? Shouldn’t he and Chucky arm wrestle?


  14. 19
    Lord Rothermere says:

    Juden verboten! Ja vol, mein führer!


  15. 20
    Sir William Waid says:

    I can’t remember voting to join the European Union, or being given a choice between political parties, at least one of which proposed staying out. Then again, it’s all rather complicated and probably best left to the experts.


    • 31
      Gadarene fuckpigs of multiplicity says:

      Quite right of course.

      My definition of an expert used to be a person who knew just one thing more than you about a particular subject. Perhaps the person who taught you that Word/Excel tip that saved you an hour each time you used it…

      Now it is a person who knows absolutely nothing about anything – and does not want to learn because they will be moved on before it matters, anyway.

      Deskilling, it is called and it starts from the top.


  16. 21
    Andy Burnham says:

    I’ll sue anyone who says I tried to cover up the truth about NHS deaths. I didn’t try. I did it. As Yoda said, do or do not. There is no try.


  17. 22
    Casual Observer 3 says:

    Not to defend Afriyie, but between 2011 and now there has been two years of no credible recovery in the Eurozone, C’yprus bail-in, Europe telling Dave to shove his request for renegotiation and repatriation of certain powers and what looks like a border dispute starting with Spa!n. This is not to mention the farce unfolding in !taly, increase in UK contributions and what has been happening in G’reece.

    Afriyie does have lots of credible reasons for changing his position other than his own immediate career prospects. If he was of conviction about Europe he would switch to UKIP.


    • 35
      Gadarene fuckpigs of multiplicity says:

      One should not be too sceptical (spelled that way, in this context, for the benefit of the Gfom) about circumstances just to score a political point and there is no sure way of answering what I have to propose. But might it just be possible that the USSR at times was more dynamic (in an economic sense) than the EU is now? An uncomfortable thought?


  18. 23
    Phwoooar! says:

    Julia Hartley Brewer is such posh totty.


  19. 32
    Obama init oissed off with looky likes says:

    Another Obama devotee who abstained or voted present, what is it with these people, who believe an Obama look a like (Chuka ) will be the next PM in the UK.


  20. 34
    Dalai Burnham says:

    Having a compassionate attitude is the ultimate basis for living a happy life.


    • 74
      Llareggub says:

      I have compassion. For my kids. I love them and concern myself deeply for their future and welfare.

      Everybody else can go fuck themselves.


  21. 36
    Tony Blair says:

    The middle east is a haven of peace thanks to me.


  22. 43
    Chuka Umunna says:

    My Tory clone is performing well. Soon I will control Labour and Conservative parties and the Sith will have their revenge. Muahahahaha.


  23. 44
    Anne says:

    In asking for a referendum before the 2015 General Election, he forgets “No British Parliament can, under the British Constitution, bind a later Parliament. Noted also however, the United Kingdom has no Constitutional referendum process for they are actually plebiscites and as such, they are not binding and are at the discretion of the Parliament!

    However, the only clear “referendum” for the people is the General Election in 2015 and because of the lack of allowing the people a say before now, and because people tend to automatically vote FOR their own Political Party they have joined, (and the three major Political Parties all want to remain in the EU) it has been put forward to use the General Election as the Referendum the people have been denied all these many years since 1975, and to use the coming General Election in 2015 as the REFERENDUM they have never been able to have SINCE 1975. Well Guys, I go along with that.


    • 56
      REALWORLDER says:

      Would any government dare to ignore a referendum result even a Labour one ?
      The dangers of holding a referendum on the EU are that the Brussels propaganda machine would be put into overdrive, they have limitless resources at their disposal able to print EUROS at will
      The BBC Unions The Guardian ,Mirror, would receive millions of EUROS to toe the party line
      Any ‘NO’campaign would be overwhelmed by the scare tactics aimed at the impressionable and ignorant who would be made to fear for their jobs and future outside the EU.
      To loose a referendum to Brussels would give them carte blanc to do anything they desired on the grounds that they now have a democratic mandate.We would be trapped in the evil empire indefinitely , waiting for it to implode in the manner of the old USSR


  24. 49
    b-b-p says:

    Adam Afriyie’s proposal for an earlier Referendum than 2017 is certainly not from an MP afraid of attracting Cameron’s wrath.Even some Euro sceptics say all it will achieve will be to delay the original Bill meant for 2017.
    WE must all be in the same frame of mind by now that you cannot trust a Politician as far as you could throw one so what is Afriyie up to.Watching the interview with him he said “ it was my conscience” I think he is afraid that Cameron is Banking on a Renegotiation on his terms with the EU and we will end up with the choice of In or Out on those Terms.
    But as we should have learnt by now His Terms will not be for Our Benefit.If he renegotiates our terms for staying in will be in the Governments Favour against us not as Cameron says to make it easier to Deport Irate Muslim Clerics.
    Cameron is stalling for a reason ,the European Court of Human Rights the ECHR and its judicial mechanism do not formally apply to EU Acts .But British law does is that why Cameron is secretly determined we stay in .There is a sinister method in his madness.



    • 57
      EU rules says:

      its very simple really ..hes a political opportunist who thinks hes a destined future leader… dream on adam


      • 63
        Anonymous says:

        Where as Cameron can only dream what it must be like to have principles and be a strong leader.


  25. 52
    Hamlet Afriyie says:

    I just could *not* make up my mind.


    • 55
      pass the bucket ... says:

      but I battled with my conscience and decided my future welfare was best served by demonstrating I am a well tanned smoothie.


  26. 60
    Scary Biscuits says:

    Bring back Guido Senior. This blog used to really hate the Establishment and was all the better for it. Neo Guido sounds more like he wants to join the troughers than bring them down.

    Whatever his past sins, at least Adam is doing something to change the status quo, which is more than can be said for this blog.


  27. 77
    johannes says:

    Larry the lookout is watching you. He’s wired.


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