October 1st, 2013

EU Funds Work For the Dole

The Tories have released the first details of what Work for the Dole will entail. Claimants will have their benefits stripped if they fail to turn up to intensive “support and supervision” sessions for 35 hours a week over 6 months. Special centres will be set up where two pilots will be held, one for the long-term unemployed and one for people yet to go through the Work Programme. IDS sums up the policy as “No attendance. No benefit. That is only fair.”

In the small print, the pilot will be funded by £30 million from the EU. To be fair, if we are going to steal this money from the European taxpayers, we might as well spend it righteously.

Such a policy should have been in place for years, though at least this seems to be the beginning of welfare reform for the long-term unemployed. Worth noting the glowing praise Osborne had for IDS in his speech yesterday following Matthew d’Ancona’s revelations about their relationship. IDS’ face was a picture.

Guido understands that post-d’Ancona revelations, efforts have been made to stress it is all water under the bridge for IDS and the Chancellor. Yet when they came face to face late last night by accident in a restaurant, according to the chatter at the Telegraph party, the roof still needs some attention and the sun is still behind the clouds…


172 Comments

  1. 1
    Bum Nose Says says:

    Look, I’m sorry if I look so smug, but you scum will be scrubbing the streets, You should have been like me and born with powder up yer bum nose and hookers on tap, coz I’m an ugly little degenerate with money:

    http://order-order.com/2011/09/12/osborne-coke-and-hookers-story-breaking-tonight/

  2. 2
    Tories are CUNTS says:

    Is it a bird? ………. is it a plane? ………… no ……… it’s geirge osborne’s pre-lobotomy haircut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. 3
    any old crap says:

    Oh! dear you one of the first to use the new service.

  4. 4
    And? says:

    The whole charade is meaningless – if they are unwilling to let people starve to death if they can’t be arsed to work.

  5. 5
    Tachybaptus says:

    It sounds as if a great deal of public money will be spent in setting up these special centres, with little prospect of any useful return.

    In the agricultural depression following the Napoleonic wars, landowners solved the unemployment problem by getting the starving peasants to dig ditches and fill them in again, in return for which they were given a pittance just large enough to live on. It sounds as if we shall be seeing an analogous process now.

  6. 6
    Simon B says:

    This is ZaNuLieBore-type soft, socialist nonsense. In a sane, rational world, there would be no dole at all. Capitalism is about competition and not just between different businesses, but between people as well. We live in a capitalist society, thus every aspect of our lives should be seen as a competition, ESPECIALLY when it comes to the very point to life itself: work and wealth creation. In a sane, rational, English world, anyone out of work for 6 months or more would be placed in a for-profit work camp where they, during the day, do work for any interested company. During the evenings, they will be provided the means with which to look for proper work. Anyone who then secures this proper work will be discharged from the camp.

    It’s time the weakest and least competitive realise the kind of world they are living in. I support these measures by the Conservatives 100%, but they simply do not go far enough from riding ourselves of these scroungers. Don’t listen to the traitorous unions and the commies in Labour: anyone who really wants a job will find one. There are more than enough jobs to go around if you have the ba11$ to actually look.

  7. 7
    Trigger says:

    Is it just me being prejudiced (or factual) that the majority of fraudulent claims etc, appear to be committed by non UK nationals and that this cost all of us a tad amount of our hard earn’t?….

    Is it just me being prejudiced (or factual) that an dis-proportionate percentage of the UK’s prison population is made up of non UK nationals?

    Any reason I should not vote UKIP or BNP?

  8. 8
    Simon B says:

    Oh and I won’t hear any smears about migrant workers. They are a) willing to work for less than the minimum wage and b) willing to work in almost any condition for at least 12 hours a day. Their lives growing up under communism taught them how to compete in a capitalist society, something those in the so-called “working class”, who grew up under ZaNuLieBore know nothing about. The Poles are happy to work on weekends and without paid vacation, so why do our own English “working class” think they have the God-given rights to costly, growth-sabotaging workplace “benefits”. In today’s climate, they should be grateful they aren’t being culled.

  9. 9
    Bum Nose Says says:

    Hitler was a keen fan of “survival of the fittest”. He liked a little bit of the cocaine tincture too and was kinky with his niece. What a guy!!!

  10. 10
    Simon B says:

    Obvious commie is obvious.

  11. 11
    Simon B says:

    Hear, here!

  12. 12
    Trigger says:

    I await ‘moderation’, though admit it should have been an ‘a’ rather than an ‘an’..

  13. 13
    Expentant Twat says:

    I don’t do mornings….

    but I’m up at the crack of noon every day.

  14. 14
    Simon B says:

    Didn’t think it would be too long until someone invoked Hitler. Sorry, but Hitler was a man of the Left. He was the furthest thing from far-right, he was far-left. He only killed other commies and pinkos because he saw them as a threat. He was best friends with Stalin. He only attacked the USSR because he knew he could convert the Russian people to his version of socialism. Learn a thing or two from history, Lenin Lover.

  15. 15
    Tachybaptus says:

    It looks as if moderation has been granted you. You are truly blessed.

  16. 16
    JH30u4092340932 says:

    You aren’t a very convincing right winger ‘Simon’.

    You know why?

    Because you just sound like what a right winger would in the fevered, embittered fantasies of some pitiful little left-wing turd.

  17. 17
    Fuck the LibLabCon says:

    30 hours a week at a JSA rate of £71.70 per week = £2.39 per hour.

    Wow, Ozzy just slashed the national minimum wage by almost two thirds!

  18. 18
    Liam Byrne says:

    Jolly good, keep buggering on!

  19. 19
    Trigger says:

    I doubt my blessing, as prior still hangs in the realm of moderation.. Is this an open forum or what??

  20. 20
    Bum Nose Says says:

    Left and Right, I don’t buy that balloney — —–two cheeks of the same arse.

  21. 21
    RickyTshed says:

    IDS sums up the policy as “No attendance. No benefit. That is only fair.”

    says the guy who went into hiding when challenged on his ability to live on £70 a week

    for many job seekers it will cost them the £70 on transport costs to their nearest job centre

  22. 22
    Bum Nose Says says:

    Comme? I leave that for other’s who like a hearty helping of balloney washed down with lashing of kool aide.

  23. 23
    Tachybaptus says:

    Not making a pun, but you have to learn the trigger words that anger the modbot, and learn to bypass them by writing things like ‘dr!ve’, ‘drvnk’, ‘b@nkrvpt’.

  24. 24
    Jimmy says:

    Claimants will have their benefits stripped if they fail to turn up to intensive “support and supervision” sessions for 35 hours a week over 6 months.

    Iain Dunning Kruger is a genius. Unemployment slashed at a stroke. Half the unemployed will be hired to supervise the other half for six months and then they can all switch places.

  25. 25
    Trigger says:

    I would refrain comment, than bow to a ‘bot’ and as I am I am a man of my word.. さよなら。

  26. 26
    Tachybaptus says:

    It’s rarely that I agree with you, but I think I was approaching the same viewpoint from the other side at 5 above.

  27. 27
    Anonymous says:

    he was made redundant and he knows what it is like to be on the breadline. you twats need to do your fucking research if you can even understand what that means

    Labour front bench all born with silver red spoons in there mouths never done a decent job between em so just fuck right off cnut

  28. 28
    Anonymous says:

    jimmy you really are a total twat

  29. 29
    W**ker says:

    Bearing in mind the amount of bullshite we’ve heard from all three main parties, I expect this is more of the same.
    Sounds very expensive to run and we’ll probably have to pay travel costs as well as for gormless warders to supervise the wasting of time.
    Do you really expect it to be carried out for millions of people?

    Better to cut unemployment to a bare minimum rather to stop it being a viable career option.

  30. 30
    Jimmy says:

    I’m not the one who voted for these jokers.

  31. 31
    Tachybaptus says:

    Not an enormously helpful comment.

    But consider this: the scheme would require the setting up of a vast structure of supervisors, organisers, checkers and assorted penpushers, with an equally huge computer database (and we know how bad governments of any colour are at that). I just don’t think it’s feasible; it will never be implemented.

    What this proposal actually means is something different. The party leadership, wet liberals to the last ‘man’, see that the core of party members is becoming increasingly exasperated with them. The leadership, being right out on the edge of the party, think of the core as stupid hangers-‘n’-floggers (rather as Jimmy considers them). They have therefore issued the proposal as a sop to the supposed barbarians who make up most of their membership, in the hope that it will bring them onside and even recover some who have wandered off to support UKIP.

    Will it work even on the level of propaganda? I don’t think so.

  32. 32
    Tachybaptus says:

    Agree. And you can write ‘wanker’ on this blog, although may ordinary and harmless words are verboten.

  33. 33
    Jimmy says:

    It’s a typical conference gimmick from a minister who has had an absolute trainwreck of a year even by this government’s standards. If it sees the light of day at all it will be in a couple of “trial areas” and will be quietly dropped once it’s generated the required Daily Mail column inches. Like most of Dunning Kruger’s ideas, it combines uselessness with excessive cost. You’re only partly right though. I don’t hate rank and file tories nearly as much as Dave Gimmick does.

  34. 34
    Tachybaptus says:

    Agree, including the last sentence. Must toddle off now, my butler says it’s bedtime.

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  38. 38
    albacore says:

    Yet more pie in the sky from the ersatz blue section
    So the reds get to win the next pointless election
    After all, it’s essential in a one-party state
    To prolong some illusion while the old proles’ planned fate
    Was long ago decided and as clear as could be
    The British are surplus. This is immigrant country

  39. 39

    Does this mean I am going to have to drive my Toyota Land Cruiser all the way back to the UK every eek to claim my benefits. It hardly seems fair.

  40. 40

    Oh no, now I have to come back to claim my cash.

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  42. 42

    Add in all the other out-of-work benefits a long-term unemployed person receives and recalculate. £26.000pa =£500.00 per week =£14.40 per hour for a 35 hr week. All untaxed.

    Muppet.

  43. 43
    M­a­qbo­ul says:

    But it is feasible: anyone familiar with the “uselessness with excessive cost” of a local government office would recognise the setup.

  44. 44
    Henry Chinaski says:

    Simon B, seriously, you should be revising for your media studies and politics A-levels, not trolling round the fat paddy with your sub-standard reactionary comments. Now get to your fucking room and stop embarrassing yourself, it is fucking boring now and more than a little bit cringe worthy you little snotty shit. Before you post back accusing me of being a lefty/commie etc, don’t as I couldn’t give two shits about any of the scum fuckers in Parliament, behead the fucking lot of them and their poncing families.

  45. 45
    Apparently says:

    I hear that a Swiss company named Dignitas has been approached to set up and run these centres…..

  46. 46
    Andrew Efiong says:

    An excellent idea but years to late.

    Let’s hope this pilot project puts the wind up the shirkers!

    People who claim benefits for years have a huge duty to repay society.

  47. 47
    Ian Duncan Smith says:

    What work is being done by someone who posts on here at 4:29 am and 5:00 am and who appears to be a troll?

    Is this person claiming benefits to support his nocturnal habits (and his postings)?

  48. 48
    Django tough but fair! says:

    If he is guilty of what you claim then at worse he should be on a drugs charge. What he didn’t do is scrounge the money he used to feed his drug habit from the tax payer. The once bustling town I live in is populated by a great many people who bear an uncanny resemblance to the photo Guido used for this article. They won’t work and spend an awful lot of time drinking, partying and being involved in low level/serious crime. Im fed up with taxes being used to support this cadre of citizens… It ends now!

  49. 49
    make sure the building & contents insurance is up to date. says:

    What’s the betting all these centres will be burned-down or destroyed in riots?

  50. 50
    a non says:

    There are shirkers and shirkers.
    It is as much a case for getting the lazy up from their sofas as indirectly investigating those claiming a full unemployment benefit whilst moonlighting. Casual window cleaners, gardeners, barmen , bouncers etc -workers in the parallel black economy, which will never be stamped out completely yet some rebalancing to support the true needy is essential .
    Almost Catch 22 for the ‘working shirker’. Mother Teresa working hand in hand with 1984s Big Brother.

  51. 51
    vote Ukip get red marxist Ed says:

    The times front page photo of Farage is an absolute corker this morning
    Lol lol

  52. 52
    Beggars 3. Gissa Job says:

  53. 53
    REALWORLDER says:

    Do not confuse the real working class with the illiterate,scrounging parasites who live on their taxes.

  54. 54
    Vote Dave, get 29 million Romanians says:

    It is indeed.

  55. 55
    Vote Dave, get 29 million Romanians says:

    I didn’t know Tessa Jowell was still alive.

  56. 56
    Walking Dead watch says:

    What makes you think that?

  57. 57
    Our Father David. Our Father. says:

  58. 58
    REALWORLDER says:

    Funny that, I find that if I don’t go to work I recieve no money either !

  59. 59
    Our Father Ed. Our Father. says:

  60. 60
    REALWORLDER says:

    YES alive and troughing

  61. 61
    Aa watch says:

    Aa = Alcoholics anonymous?

  62. 62
    vote Ukip get red marxist Ed says:

    Red ed defends marxist pa who hated britain
    Ed do feck off

  63. 63
    Parasites says:

    Quite. Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner, says it all.

  64. 64
    OUT DAVE OUT DAVE OUT DAVE OUT DAVE OUT DAVE OUT says:

    And £300 million additional Debt today and every fucking day.

    And Gay Marriage.

  65. 65
    No smoke without Fire says:

    It has obviously touched a raw nerve.

  66. 66
    Anonymous says:

    The English have plenty to fear from Red Ed and his commissars. Remember David Miliband signing the Lisbon Treaty with Brown behind closed doors?
    Both treacherous.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2439714/An-evil-legacy-wont-apologise.html

  67. 67
    M­a­qbo­ul says:

    Here’s a thought: perhaps he ain’t in the UK and maybe he’s in another timezone?

  68. 68
    Grand Master, Grand Lodge, Great Queen Street says:

    Don’t worry Handy. It’s a ploy of mine to get the police to find you have no case to answer again. Jahbulon.

  69. 69
    Ed Miliband says:

    We are the party that supports the long term benefit scrounger. We will take from the workers and give the money to the scroungers. Comrades it’s the right thing to do.

  70. 70
    (optional) says:

    This Workfare mark 2 idea. Why can’t the long-term unemployed / unemployable be put to work doing ‘community’ work. Picking up litter / sweeping the streets / painting the park railings? My God there is plenty they could be doing to spruce up the streets we all use. But no, like Workfare mark 1, which was successfully challenged in the courts, the stupid Tories will try to put workfare people into their donors’ companies to take available paid work from other people.

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    Living in 98.221% white Merseyside says:

    I’d like to know who they are going to select to clear the dog mess off the street? A certain religion think dogs are unclean so to try and get them to do it is a recipe for trouble.

    Solution? Get the long suffering white majority to do it.

  73. 73
    Living in 98.221% white Merseyside says:

    What about the “shirkers” who have two or three jobs on the side?

  74. 74
    The Biased Charidee says:

    A Citizens advice Bureau chappie said on the radio that employers would not take on people who had been deployed picking litter as they wold then know that that person was a problem employee.

    Why does this charity Chappie think it OK to dupe employers about a prospective employee’s capabilities?

  75. 75
    Arthur Sleep says:

    I worked out that if Osborne’s plan to make people report to the DSS daily would cost £17.50 in public transport a week where I am here in Sheffield. Still the 8 mile walk will do people good won’t it? Will people still be classed as eligible for work while they walk? Someone buy the man a dot to dot book to show him how it should be done

  76. 76
    vote Ukip get red marxist Ed says:

    Yes
    His father hated my country and the twat of a son has already attempted to destroy my country and wants a second chance

  77. 77
    BeeCee says:

    “intensive “support and supervision” sessions” Really?

    Endless excuses for not turning up. Claims and allowances for/if attending. Incompetent supervision. No proper backup. Grants for training on how to compile a cv and how to apply for jobs that don’t exist, and £Millions to pay for it all.

    It will reduce the number of those listed as unemployed by accounting for them in a different category. Training for some who want – certainly, but more of this rubbish? No! Get real.

    Work, not shirk, for help and benefits.

  78. 78
    JH30u4092340932 says:

    Don’t worry Ed,

    I’m sure you’ll be able to inflict your socialist fantasies on us soon enough. Shortages of everything except misery.

    It’s the government that comes after you which will be interesting.

  79. 79
    RedEd on your Marx says:

    Tell you what just tell em to stay in bed and to make it easier for thesw scroungers we will pay itdirectly to the local offie and betting shop so you dont have to move your kazy carcass a fucking inch

  80. 80
    Just wondering says:

    Do childless couples buying a taxpayer subsidised 3 bedroom house with a Help-To-Buy mortgage get fined for their spare bedrooms I wonder?

  81. 81
    Anonymous says:

    Giddy looks as if he’s had a life change experience.Very pretty.

  82. 82
    Anonymous says:

    important word – buying…………..

  83. 83
    Anonymous says:

    Oh Chuckie what have you done now.

  84. 84
    RedEd on your Marx says:

    Looking at the squeals of anguish from the lefties about having to actually do some work you just know ozzy and cam have hit the target right on the bullseye
    Well done lads keep after the lazy twats

  85. 85
    No effort...No Dosh....That's a start to fairness says:

    Ah Diddums.

    TOUGH but not Tough enough by a long way…Yet

  86. 86
    Lefties love bring in Misery says:

    One of life’s natural pessimists are we.

  87. 87
    JH30u4092340932 says:

    Reality will catch up with them soon enough. One day, they will have to provide something someone actually wants at a mutually agreed price in order to get paid.

    They will have largely destroyed the economy in the meantime, but hey.

  88. 88
    The Lefty Test says:

    The more that workshy Lefties protest about this. The more you know that Osborne is on to something here.

  89. 89
    Dr Strangelove says:

    well that’s a whole new market, pornography for blind people.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24223744

  90. 90
    Bob Diamond Geezer says:

    Yes sure near me a number of houses have been bought by a charity to house alcoholics who doss about in the park or the town centre all day BUT do you think the workfare scheme will really get that lot back to work – they are probably on invalidity benefit anyway and in any sense unemployable. Similarly for all the talk of stopping benefits is Tracey with her 6 kids by different dads really going to have her money cut – all the kids will have to be taken into care – which will cost even more. Something needs to be done but this all just big talk…

  91. 91
    Little Boy Blue. says:

    Old news Keep Up.

    Actually if you google it, there is such a thing. See!

  92. 92
    Anonymous says:

    When Fathers pour poison into the ears of their young,this happens…

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    Miz D says:

  94. 94
    Ian Duncan Smith says:

    Here is a thought: Maybe he is in Pinner?

  95. 95
    BeeCee says:

    Ha! You too eh?

    I am when concerned about some issues – doesn’t mean that I am wrong though.

    Reminds me of (Woody Allen and probably others): “Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you.”

  96. 96
    The DM says:

    Today, we stand by every word we published on S@turday, from the headline to our assertion that the beliefs of Miliband Snr ‘should disturb everyone who loves this country’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2439714/Ed-Miliband-evil-legacy-wont-apologise.html

  97. 97
    The DM says:

    Today, we stand by every word we published on Sat urday, from the headline to our assertion that the beliefs of Miliband Snr ‘should dist urb everyone who loves this country’.

  98. 98

    Some might apply these words to Diane Abbott:

    #fat, #stupid, #greedy, #hypocritical, #unaware, #troughing, #in love with her own voice, #the list goes on forever just like her waistline

  99. 99
    Dave really should resign now says:

    If they put an EU decal on the frontage then this would be very high chance.

  100. 100
    Window Taxidermy says:

    Simon B you are so right in pointing out that competition has been key to man’s evolution from ape to homo. This evolution has favoured the growth of brain over brawn and we now prize and value intelligence and the capacity for original thought. Sadly on the basis of recent post your own capacity for imaginative thinking makes you un-competitive and you are forthwith to be sent to a place of learning for re-education and if that does not succeed then you will be terminated as your genes are thwarting the ongoing development of the species

  101. 101
    The DM says:

    So how is it that shortly after his arrival in Britain, the 17-year-old Miliband senior had confided to his diary: ‘The Englishman is a rabid nationalist. They are perhaps the most nationalist people in the world . . . you sometimes want them almost to lose [the war] to show them how things are’?
    Isn’t it permissible to surmise that a man who had expressed such views joined the Royal Navy not so much to fight for Britain as to fight, like the Soviet Union, against the N@zis?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2439714/Ed-Miliband-evil-legacy-wont-apologise.html

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    unemployed and skint in Birtley Colliery says:

    So this offer of work for the unemployed is actually no work for the unemployed.

    What it entails is making the unemployed turn up at Centres which will employ a few people to ask them to jump through a few loops under threat of losing their benefits which they would ditch tomorrow if they had a reasonably paid job to go to.

    i had thought I would be asked to go down to somewhere like Witney and start digging out a new railway line with my pick axe.

    Silly silly me.

  103. 103
    Abbott Explodes says:

  104. 104
    Labour Shadow Minister Quotes Goebbels says:

    So Abbott agrees with Goebbels. She’s showing her True colours now

  105. 105
    Andy Mitchell pudding and pie says:

    You sir are obviously a stupid twat.

    If you think we in the Tory Party actually want to serve and help Plebs like you you are seriously deluded.

    Why don’t you get a one way rail ticket to the independent State of Scotland.

    You will be a lot happier and so will we.

  106. 106

    Just like Fatbot herself, her link does not resolve!

  107. 107
    Film Critic says:

    Ever seen the film Marathon Man ? LOL

  108. 108
    Abbott Agrees with Ed's pa that Britain should have lost the war. says:

    I’d say that wanting Britain to lose the war is on the strong side of Evil Diane. Why do you disagree?

  109. 109
    Yes, and.. says:

    Yes, and her Party’s shadow chancellor likes to dress-up in an SS uniform.

  110. 110
    The BBC says:

    It’s been a while since we last tried to pass of Miliband Sr as some sort of brilliant thinker. Didn’t really pull it off last time. Should we try it again?

    Trouble is, in all the footage of him he just sounds like the common-or-garden lefty drone – all full of words signifying nothing, sentences left hanging in the air in the hope that the listener will put their inability to understand what the fuck he is on about down to their own inability to understand such a great man.

    You know, our job would be a lot easier if we had better material. The socialist golden dawn won’t create itself.

  111. 111
    Toothpeg says:

    Is it safe – to

  112. 112
    The Miliband family says:

    It is very sad that Hitler was unable to destroy Britain, but we are very confident that Ed will succeed where Adolf failed.

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    Anonymous says:

    I wonder who they’ll get to run these sessions? Will this just turn into another mechanism to enrich companies run by the Tories’ chums?

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    Casual Observer 3 says:

    If the GBP 30m / year project is funded by EU, why not save GBP 50m / day and do it ourselves.

    GBP 30m is about 15 hours of EU membership.

  115. 115

    Quite! :-)

    Responded to you here where I think we are getting stuck:

    http://bit.ly/GzEg8m

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    Klaus Henchmann says:

    I see the Mail has stopped commoents on the Milibands. Must be worried about people telling the truth about spying.

    Why did they leave the Women behind ?

    When exactly did they come to Britain ?

    Was it before the collapse of the German Soviet pact ?

    How did the Aunt end up at school with Stalin’s daughter and then his interpreter ?

    Did she learn her English at tge same schools as the others ?

    This should be fun. At least Dave is lucky. Here in the west he is still alive.

    Still a Marxist but alive.

  117. 117
    Apollo says:

    You, sir, do credit to the proud Scottish literary legacy of William Topaz McGonagall.

    May I please request a Tay Bridge style disaster poem for HS2.

  118. 118
    Capita PLC says:

    We are here to help.

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    EU Funded Pro-EU Troll says:

    Vote UKIP

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    Big Society 2.0 says:

    No-one will run these sessions. It’s just the back of a f@g-packet idea that someone had while taking a dump in Whitehall. They’ll let it blaze in the headlines for a day or two until all the impracticalities reveal themselves and then it will all be quietly forgotten.

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    Dr Strangelove says:

    maybe the guy was sacked from the beeb and went to work at the times

  122. 122
    Fatbot Spin Fail says:

    Could anyone seriously imagine Abbot goose stepping ?

    Almost as incredible as having a morbidly obese shadow health minister.

    #credibilityfail

  123. 123
    GORDON McMENTAL McMAD McBROWN says:

    W.T.F ?
    if we are going to steal this money from the European taxpayers”

    £30 million is less that half a days contribution from the BRITISH Taxpayers !

    What a fucking absurd statement !

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    FTFoff says:

    That would be stealin’ jobs from skilled council workers, innit! We’d have to go on strike!

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    Little Boy Blue. says:

    In our poll, more than 85% of teachers quizzed in the survey said there has been an increase in the number of pupils turning up to school in the past two years without having eaten breakfast. ( Mirror )

    120% of the teachers said they would be on strike today. ( postal vote )

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    The blue Skoda in the carpark says:

    If there is anything dodgy about Miiliband then the Daily Mail have a duty of care to inform us.

    If they have been sitting on information it makes their behaviour reprehensible.

    If they had spoken up about something of relevance when he was seeking to be Leader of the Opposition his appointment could have been avoided.

    Instead we are left with insinuation and innuendo emanating from the Daily Mail. Three years of the most abject parliamentary opposition could possibly have been avoided.

    Just try phoning the Editor of The Daily Mail and see how they want to fob you off.

  127. 127
    Julius Caesar says:

    Oh yes!

    I have my hand in the air so it must be offside!

    FFS UKIP are absolutely hopeless beyond singing “Rule Britannia” out of tune in a pub near you (if you can still find a pub that is).

  128. 128
    Casual Observer 3 says:

    This is the EU redistribution model.

    Before one would rob Peter to pay P’aul.

    Under the EU you rob P’aul to pay P’aul and keep most for the commission.

  129. 129
    Little Boy Blue. says:

    Quote of the Day ( Mail)

    ‘From my late 20s I started gaining weight – 4st in all – until reaching 13st in my late 40s – despite eating child-sized portions.’

  130. 130
    M­a­qbo­ul says:

    I’m gonna cry in a minute. It doesn’t cost them a fucking thing to get anywhere. It costs the taxpayer. It’s going to make a lot of shirkers think they’d be better off working than going through this palaver. It will make it more difficult to be moonlighting as well. There’s a hard core of at least a million who don’t want to work, not can’t or unable, don’t want. Well now that lifestyle choice just got harder. Well done to IDS. It’s a vote winner among most taxpayers who are fed up funding the lives of idle scrotes.

  131. 131
    Denial_A_River_In_Islington says:

    Worry not! Labour can solve EVERYTHING! 20 months price cap on electricity prices and BINGO, job done.

    Nothing SILLY about that. Nothing at all.

  132. 132
    Little Boy Blue. says:

    Join Sun+ to find out what life is like for Callum Wrist who masturbates 15 or 16 times a day.

    I think it’s called ‘nominative determinism ‘

  133. 133
    Little Boy Blue. says:

    Are his figures 95% certain

  134. 134
    Anonymous says:

    To love a country is to love it as it is, not as you wish it to be.

    The malaise of today is to love a promise, as opposed to the current reality.

    Fine try to improve it, but in the end it was created by its history and so you must also support that. Obviously judged on what it did at the time, not how it acted with reference to current immorality.

  135. 135
    George Davis says:

    Handy is innocent too – OK.

  136. 136
    Elephant in the room says:

    Could this scheme be targetted more for the R’omanian and B’ulgarian immigrants when they show up ?

    Why the borders are still open to EU immigration is a mystery.

    Perhaps closing until economy is fixed and unemployment is down would be better move.

  137. 137
    Anonymous says:

    Also requires too much supervision costs.

    They must be employed in one area doing non-jobs. Time wasting humiliation.

  138. 138
    Millie Tant says:

    How dare you show a picture of my Marxist dad

  139. 139
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Ecoloons says:

    If you are a patriot and want your country back:

    1. Stop paying the telly tax

    2. Stop buying the lying rags laughably calling themselves newspapers

    3. Vote UKIP at every opportunity

    Remember vote early, vote often, vote UKIP :-)

  140. 140
    Bill Quango MP -9 says:

    Obesity crisis is over then?

  141. 141
    Little Boy Blue. says:

    Do I detect the beginnings of a romance here?

  142. 142
    Anonymous says:

    The better of two evils is not love.

  143. 143
    Anonymous says:

    This sort of system should have been happening for years, its totally wrong that people can be better off sitting on their *rses than working,all day while others slog away to pay tax to fund them.Before you say “there are no jobs” make the feckers move to where the jobs are, thats what normal people do !

  144. 144
    Anonymous says:

    Thats what we need TACHY ! progressive ideas on the subject of unemployment !

  145. 145
    Django says:

    Miliband’s suggestion was welcomed of course welcomed by the left but the reality is that many businesses and households already have price freezes because they sight up to fixed prices for two years plus… Not really much of an innovation. The price freeze is also probably an infringement of European competition legislation. Ed might have made an impressive delivery of his speech but there is no hiding the fact that the content of his speech doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. The man lacks substance… All knickers and no arse!

  146. 146
    Legless for the rest of my life says:

    A WOMAN was killed and her boyfriend lost his legs after being struck by a train while having sex on a railway line. ( Star)

  147. 147
    Time 2 CTRL, ALT & DEL says:

    How much did we pay in to get this £30m back – probably at least £300m by the time you take the Kinnocks and Mandys cuts from it. Then there is teh cost of processing it, paying for translation services, ratification by faceless burocrates. Cost of fund s transfer- might be up to £1n by now. Of course it cant be verified because the auditors cant sign it off.

  148. 148
    Peter Expat says:

    Agreed. We also have a perception of all people in receipt of unemployment benefit as wastrels. Many are middle aged managers whose hope of getting something remotely sensible evaporates daily. Some already do charity work of various sorts and this would have to stop if they are forced to go and sweep the streets after a lifetime of tax paying.
    Jacking up the retirement age will surely result in a lot of elderly people who if denied a pension, will need unemployment benefit, as there is a finite number of shelf stacking jobs and many will not be able to continue in their present jobs. Are we to see them forced into manual labour for which they may not be fit enough for, or have done before?
    By all means target the useless and parasitical, but remember the genuine majority, who fully contributed to the system.

  149. 149
    Maximus says:

    This is a little EU social experiment, of a sort and parallel to their other little social experiments in Greece and Cyprus. After all, if you have the workless in ‘intensive “support and supervision”‘ from 9 to 5 – that is to say, huddled in a van somewhere well out of the way of tempting shop windows, etc – they cannot possibly get up to no good. And they won’t be seen loitering, rummaging thru charity shops and bins, and generally drawing attention to the fact that the government and the EU are too far up the banksters’ arses to consider alternatives to maximising the sum total of human happiness.

  150. 150
    Dave - balls of steel - Cameron says:

    Way off message – see Mr Crosby immediately.

  151. 151
    Whippet lover says:

    Yes the same type of idiotic gimmick as that Red Miliband came up with by promising to freeze energy prices. That won’t work either.

  152. 152
    Maximus says:

    Only partly true, which you can see by comparing that to the “unemployment problem” in ireland following the Napoleonic wars. But maybe I shouldn’t be giving people ideas.

  153. 153
    Mrs Dale's bumboy says:

    I’m your man!

    Sorry, I’m your person!

  154. 154
    Mrs Dale's bumboy says:

    MP’s you mean?

  155. 155
    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    Another idiot.

  156. 156
    Mrs Dale's bumboy says:

    The Palace of Westminster should offer limitless possibilities.

  157. 157
    Maximus says:

    Satire so depends on a good metaphor. You milk it like a mediocre A-level Eng Lit student.

  158. 158
    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    It isn’t the thought of the unemployed working that hurts Labour, it is the thought it might help the economy recover.

  159. 159
    Maximus says:

    As UKIP refuse to go away, as the Torah Party membership continues to fall away, as the election approaches, and being conference season, so the rhetoric gets purple. (Compare the looney Davey at the Lib Dems last week.) The crux is that ‘genius’ tends to do as ‘genius’ is.

  160. 160
    Pick litter for bennies says:

    No noises from Labour about reversing the work for benefits scheme.Wonder why?.

  161. 161
    Pick litter for bennies says:

    And BBC employee!.

  162. 162
    A Right Fucking Bastard says:

    Get the fucking lazy fucking dole scum shovelling fucking shit.

    It’s the right thing to do.

  163. 163
    Big Bob says:

    Wont happen. Somebody or something will block it before it sees the light of day. I doubt whether it’s legally sound either. Still, the Tory fan base have been appeased and so has White Van Man because – Osborne can assert – we *tried* to get the workshy t0553r5 to work for their pittance. Not our fault guv’nor!

  164. 164
    What is the matter with you? says:

    How long do you think it would take until employers realised that if they didn’t give anyone a real job they woud be able to obtain their labour in a work camp, almost free of charge?

    PS Hitler hated Lenin, stop making shit up.

  165. 165
    What is the matter with you? says:

    The certain outcome of importing workers to slave for illegal low level wages will be that wankers like you will eventually find yourself either unemployed or working like a Japanese prisoner in exchange for subsitence level wages.

    Competition, see?

  166. 166
    We don't need no education says:

    Please show your working out.

    If you have any.

  167. 167
    We don't need no education says:

    You’re a prick if you think IBS has EVER done a day’s work in his meaningless life.

    Fucking about bumming his Subaltern in the Army doesn’t count, nor does his current ‘employment’.

  168. 168
    Anonymous says:

    Supervising these pricks digging ditches will cost more than the current arrangement and almost all of them are unemployable.

    Just from a financial point of view this is a typically shit political solution.

  169. 169
    cynic says:

    Great! Require Muzzies to do it and shoot them when they riot!

  170. 170
    cynic says:

    Have an ‘All Wastrels’ selection list for prospective MP’s. That would guarantee they’d fit in well at Wastemonster.

  171. 171
    how to do it says:

    Let all the ‘concerned Lefties’ set an example. They should give up their plush salaries and benefits and go on these courses to show their supporters how to do it. Make that compulsory for all Beeboids and Guardianistas. When they strike or riot, massacre them!

  172. 172
    The above is a mong says:

    Other important words…. taxpayer subsidised.


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