September 16th, 2013

LibDems Will Put Up Taxes on Those Earning £50,000+

Most of the LibDem lines to take that were accidentally leaked to the press were pretty dull, yet their plans to put up taxes on anyone who earns more than £50,000 has piqued the attention of hacks. Especially given it will hit many senior political journalists. The memo points out:

‘We are looking at how the richest 10% of people, those earning over £50,000, could make a further contribution. The vast majority of people in the country would consider £50,000 a very large salary: these are not the middle income earners.’

That one could become an election issue…


136 Comments

  1. 1
    Living in 98.221% white Merseyside says:

    Fortunately my bennies and pensions don’t come to that much.

  2. 2
    Nick Clegg the Bagman says:

    Even rich people will have to pay 5p for a carrier bag.

  3. 3
    A Voter says:

    Quite right. This government has run out of ways of squeezing any more money out of the lower and middle classes, and so inevitably the rich are just going to have to cough up.

    The national debt has risen from 800bn to be a projected 1.4tn by the end of this parliament, due to George Osborne’s deficit reduction program.

    Someone has to pay, and it won’t be the people who have nothing more to give.

  4. 4
    fabians ARE EVIL says:

    They are not content to be fools – they actually go out and practice to be twats

  5. 5

    MP’s earn, sorry, are paid over £50,000. Looks like expenses will have to rise to compensate. SPJ’s are the scum of the earth – take all their money in tax.

  6. 6
    Peter Grimes says:

    But £50k doesn’t make you a rich person, not in the SE anyway!

  7. 7
    Ron Barras says:

    Typical, always looking to tax more.

    Why don’t they stop wasting money instead?

  8. 8
    Car-Boot Tax Dodgers says:

    It won’t effect us chavs, we nick it in the week and flog it at the weekends. Never see a taxman here

  9. 9

    They might even emigrate…

    95701

  10. 10
    Tony Blair says:

    It doesn’t worry me, I get paid in reddies overseas for my speeches.

  11. 11
    pOLITICIANS ARE DANGEROUS says:

    And they are taxing those who they have recently taken out of tax with a 5p carrier bag tax.

    By the way any scientist will tell you that modern thin film carrier bags are very environmentally friendly, much more so than paper bags or the thick plastic bags that will replace them. They also readily and harmlessly break down in contact with the soil or UV radiation. To ban them or rather tax them to charity IS PURE POLITICAL TOKENISM.

  12. 12
    The Happy LibDem Care home for Barking LibDems says:

    MATRON, Vince has got out again just seen him on the TV he is up in bloody Glasgow and he taken the hat from the dressing up box.

  13. 13
    Nick Cleggover - The Unthinking Man's Bonker says:

    Do not worry Saint Vince and his cohort Limp Dim MP’s will now pad up their expenses and hidden income by about 25% to make up for their increased taxes.

  14. 14
    Gor Blimey, Wisdom from Westminster is not an option says:

    But there are no rabbits available for the hat. Dead rabbits are more in Vince’s line.

  15. 15
    Living in 98.221% white Merseyside says:

    Over sixty-fives should be exempt.

  16. 16

    If the rich think they are paying too much tax, they move elsewhere. Thanks to Gordon’s Tax reforms, the rich employ accountants to minimise their tax, just like Hodge does. Just as in the windpower scam, the rich end up taking from the poor. The people who have nothing more to give are sitting targets and will continue to feed the public sector’s insatiable appetite for other people’s money.

  17. 17
    Bi Curious George says:

    My head says Conservative,
    My heart says Labour,
    My willy says LibDem,

  18. 18
    Vote UKIP, get Edman Van Milibandrompoy says:

    The Lib Dems cannot do this.

    Only if they get into coalition can this happen and only with Labour would it happen.

  19. 19
    Living in 98.221% white Merseyside says:

    50K won’t even buy you a broom cupboard in Londonistan.

  20. 20
    Scots LibDem says:

    What about the tax relief on Buckie?

  21. 21
    widescreen2010 says:

    It is OK – the Tories will say ‘No’ when we have the next ConLab govt.

  22. 22
    A Judge says:

    The rich take from the poor through business transactions, the poor take from the rich by house-breaking and mugging.

  23. 23
    Really pissed off says:

    I have worked fucking hard to get where I am on a good salary with no help from anyone along the way. I pay huge amount in tax anyway and see it pissed up the wall or given away to bennie scroungers of fucking effnics. Given I get no benefits of any kind, I am the single earner in my house and having to support two kids in Uni because I don’t get anything back like everyone else seems not enough for these cnuts. My disposal income as a result is far below that of someone below that 50k and probably even the 26k top bennie sucker. Well the lib dummies clegg and cable can fuck off if they think I am paying any more. I hope they are truly decimated at the next election. They are now dead in the water now if these guys even had a chance of winning even a few seats.

  24. 24
    Tony Blair says:

    I went into the bank this morning and asked the cashier if I can have the amount I can withdraw from the ATM increased, she said it depends, and asked if I earn more than 50,000 pounds, I replied, some days I do and some days I don’t!

  25. 25
    Liblabcon Party machine says:

    Looks like who ever wins the 2015 election they will have to take their retard libdem brother with them.

  26. 26
    Nick Clegg says:

    I’m so very very sorry.

  27. 27
    Hodge the dodge says:

    £50,000 is a tiny, tiny, tiny amount of money

  28. 28
    Nick Clegg says:

    The latest poll shows that 75% of the population hate me.

    The remaining 25% just think I am a cünt.

  29. 29
    Anonymous says:

    earning 65 k is not fucking rich. earning 650k is rich

  30. 30
    Albert O'Balsam says:

    Bloody hell, what an amazing idea!

  31. 31
    Vince Cable says:

    I predicted the last financial crisis and nobody listened.

  32. 32
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Nice round figure hauled out of the air. Gives the lazy media a headline. Gesture politics by LDs just like the ineffectual 50% tax rate brought in for the final weeks of Brown’s reign of terror.

  33. 33
    Ed Balls MP says:

    what about the other 8%?

  34. 34
    Tojo says:

    Is not the BAG TAX enough, 20% VAT will go direct to the Government and not I suspect…. to charity. now this really is…. a TAX we do not have at the moment and mostly, a Tax on the ELDERLY.

  35. 35
    A veiled shape says:

    Tax all face coverings.

  36. 36
    Yeah, right... says:

    £50k for a married man with a non-working wife and two children equates to less than £3000.00/mth take home pay.

    That isn’t much especially if you aren’t an MP and can’t charge all your living expenses to the taxpayer.

  37. 37
    Casual Observer says:

    As the next election is going to be fought on who is going to cost the individual voter less, Lib Dems have just nudged UKIP ahead.

    Perhaps as a hat tip to Labour, as this announcement will only serve to split the Tory vote further ?

  38. 38
    Universal Hiss says:

    I don’t think there is any.The shipyard there is about to close.

    Oh you mean the English drink.

  39. 39
    Pollytwaddle says:

    You mean, politicians are engaged in tokenism?

    And I thought they were “running the country”!

  40. 40
    Ed Balls MP says:

    65k is flat-lining

  41. 41
    Pollytwaddle says:

    Gong!

    No. Someone doesn’t “have to pay.”

    Someone (and you know who) needs to stop spending.

  42. 42
    Vince Cable says:

    I also predicted the sun would come up 2 hours after it did.

  43. 43
    Pollytwaddle says:

    That’ll never work.

    Spending is what they do.

  44. 44
    A veiled shape says:

    Why are you not at work now then?

  45. 45
    A Cigarette says:

    The government should ban all advertising on carrier bags.

  46. 46
    Yeah, right... says:

    Those postal voters dont really exist, Ed.

    Bet you are are mightily grateful to them though, eh?

  47. 47
    Bury My Heart At LibDem Conference says:

    Poll this Morning shows the LibDems at 8% for the Euro Elections. I wonder why?

  48. 48
    Pollytwaddle says:

    CA taxes income over real money at 10.55% on top of the Fed’s take.

  49. 49
    Sadik Khan`t says:

    Well we know you aren`t.

  50. 50
    Sarah Teather's Size 16 bloomers says:

    Is this policy or just a briefing?

  51. 51
    Pollytwaddle says:

    He is.

    he’s just not working.

  52. 52
    East India Company Wallah says:

    So what on earth do they class as poor then
    according to leftie violins it is nasty to limit a household to £25k of unearned income on benefits however take home £35k after tax nat ins etc on earned income with council tax to pay yet and you are RICH

  53. 53
    LibDem wacktivist says:

    Just testing the water before we stick it in…ooh matron.

  54. 54
    Anonymous says:

    £50k is nowhere near a real-world sum of money in London.

  55. 55
    REALWORLDER says:

    Why is it so high

  56. 56
    A Voter says:

    In Rhyl you can buy a 2-bedroom flat with a sea view for £50k. Why live in Londonistan?

  57. 57
    Al Zawari says:

    And people on bennies and the disabled and of course the mozzies and all other undesirables, now lets see who that leaves.

  58. 58
    Pollytwaddle says:

    £50K is nowhere near a real-world sum of money except in the Third World.

    Oh.

  59. 59
    P l e b says:

    Fair’s fair.

  60. 60
    Biny says:

    If someone refuses to give 5p to charity will he be sent to prison? No fucking way am I giving money to socialist OXFAM or the RSPCA

  61. 61
    Pollytwaddle says:

    Why live in Londonistan?

    To get a job, perhaps?

  62. 62
    A Fabian says:

    Have you thought of putting your children into care?

  63. 63
    Anonymous says:

    Fortunately the Limp Dems will be nowhere near office come 2015, mostly due to the toxic Clegg.

  64. 64
    Even the Independent admits the Truth that plastic Carrier bags are greener than Cotton or Paper says:

    Plastic fantastic! Carrier bags ‘not eco-villains after all’

    Unpublished Environment Agency research shows polythene may be less harmful than cotton or paper

    http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/plastic-fantastic-carrier-bags-not-ecovillains-after-all-2220129.html

  65. 65
    Everyone in Westminster says:

    It depends on how many flats you have

  66. 66

    Over $1m, I thought. But they are a bunch of lefties anyway. I like the place to visit but would never live there.

    Did you see my re: last night?

    95581

  67. 67
    Andrew Rawnsley says:

    Sources close to the Lib Dems tell me they are looking at plans to introduce extra taxes on high earners

  68. 68
    Tommy says:

    “A Muslim family who were sold a cheese and onion pasty which mistakenly had meat by Morrisons were … then offered them a bottle of champagne as an apology. The blundering supermarket sold the meat product – which is banned in Muslim culture – then apologised by offering them a bottle of alcohol, which they are not allowed to drink. The devout Khan family was ‘highly insulted’ by Morrisons supermarket over the meat and alcohol double offence to their culture and religion.”
    Morrisons sold cheese and onion pasty with meat in to Muslim family by mistake… then offered them ALCOHOL as an apology | Mail Online

  69. 69
    Atilla says:

    At 120% of any figure you like as long as its big.

  70. 70
    Anonymous says:

    I hope you’re bang on the money with reference to your last point!

  71. 71
    Pollytwaddle says:

    Correct. Over $1M.

    Me neither. Better to be in the City.

    I did not.

    You’ve moved to Oregon? 9.9% there!

  72. 72
    Voting Floater says:

    LibDems stop playing with themselves or anyone in their immediate vicinity to announce this?
    Don’t give up your wank job Vince.

  73. 73

    Well they have no new ideas.

  74. 74
    Swivelly says:

    Wonder if the rich people of Richmond will want to vote for Cable?

  75. 75
    Penfold says:

    Well that puts the Lib-Dicks fully on the side of Labour, tax aspiration and success.
    No doubt we will see once these beggars are in government a piece of legislation to make politicians pay and expenses and allowances tax free.

  76. 76
    Asda is shit says:

    Well done Morrisons

  77. 77
    Anonymous says:

    ‘highly insulted’. Fucking hell. How culturally aware can one expect the folks that work at Morrisons to be?

  78. 78
    Morrisons says:

    Please accept these pork chops as an apology.

  79. 79
    V1le disgusting toxic Labour trashed my Country says:

    Why are these Limp-Dumb idiots constantly trying to invent new ways to tax us? Tax is too high they need to find ways to abolish tax not increase it. I’m sick of paying all this tax just to keep a load of spongers in drugs and alcohol.

  80. 80
    The Overweening State says:

  81. 81
    Abdul the envelope stuffer says:

    Who says they ever did?

  82. 82
    Yeah, right... says:

    Bit harsh. Not all MPs take drugs.

  83. 83
    An absolutely, absolutely , tiny, little point says:

    MPs on £65K voting to increase their tax bill? Not this lot.

  84. 84
    Err says:

    Is there a stand flogging purple ties again. What’s going on?

  85. 85
    Vince Incapable says:

    I didn’t say £50,000. I said £5,000.

    £50,000 Who earns that kind of money? Pop stars like George Lennon and Paul Harrison..and film stars like that pretty young Elisabeth Taylor.
    They earn up to £12,000 a year, so I heard.
    £50,000 would be the GNP of France for goodness sake!

    No..no..no… The tax needs to be set at a reasonable rate of say 3/6′ up to £500 and say 45d for anyone earning an excessive £2500.
    Now..I’m off to buy some ceiling wax so I can wrap a parcel.

  86. 86
    Sungei Patani says:

    Why?

    Another extension of the Nanny State?

  87. 87
    Displaced Brummie says:

    One person on £50,000 gets hit by this tax.

    A couple each earning £49,000, they’d avoid it?

    How is that fair?

    Or aren’t the Lib Dems about fair, any more?

  88. 88
    john77 says:

    Ed Millionaireband thinks those on £50k+ are “the squeezed middle”, remember

  89. 89
    Rob says:

    Most people who earn £50k or more will be in London or within 20 miles. That won’t buy you a 1 bed flat in London, not even in some shithole.

    So you are rich, but you cannot buy even the cheapest property.

    Meanwhile, you can live in a house worth £2m which you bought 30 years ago for £395, earn £25k and be terribly poor.

  90. 90
    Sadik Khan`t says:

    This will be the lead item at 7.00pm.

  91. 91
    Channel 4 Musl!ms says:

    Yes master.

  92. 92
    Channel 4 Musl!ms says:

    Just gay fair-ies.

  93. 93
    Anonymous says:

    The obvious action for this “highly insulted” family is to move themselves to an muslim country where there would be no possibility of such blunders.
    I cannot think why on earth they prefer to live here & suffer the slings & arrows of outrageous fortune arising from not reading ingredients lists on the products.

  94. 94
    Nigel Evans boyfriend says:

    Oh god please don’t tax my KY supplies, i cant take the pain anymore.

  95. 95
    Anonymous says:

    The “pay” is rendered tax free by careful manipulation of the “expenses and allowances”.

  96. 96
    The Critic says:

    Indeed -so MPs want 75K because 65K is not enough to survive on? Yet 5oK + is rich?

    The only think thatisi rich is these non-events wanting to tax us to death whilst bleating baout their own poverty stricken existence.

  97. 97
    JH943590345093450934 says:

    Nope.

    Even in the economically depressed areas there will be people on £50K plus.

    They will all work in the public sector of course, but still.

  98. 98
    Nigel Farage doppelganger says:

    “£50,000 a very large salary: these are not the middle income earners.”

    so MPs get £65k and you lot keep telling us it’s not enough!!

    btw you havent mentioned if you lot are exempt ?

  99. 99
    Anonymous says:

    12:59 – looks like lunch break time to me!

  100. 100
    geordieboy says:

    It won’t happen all the MP’s are on £65k

  101. 101
    Traveller says:

    Go to France. There are no plastic bags at the checkouts. Take your own or buy a fairly indestructible bag in the supermarket.

  102. 102
    Gideon says:

    Your answer Geedes, lies in the phrase “The vast majority of people” who do not earn anywhere near that sort of money.

  103. 103
    Gideon says:

    Or a lavvy

  104. 104
    geordieboy says:

    Mansion Tax on £2 million properties. Havn’t the Lib Dems heard of the expression “Asset rich cash poor” The bastards need exterminating.

  105. 105
    Gideon says:

    The obvious answer is tax mps expenses just call them allowances, the more they claim the more they pay

  106. 106
    Affordable housing says:

    You can buy a bungalow in Newark for £130,000. London prices are insane.

    How about this?

    http://www.winkworth.co.uk/sale/property/NWK130240

  107. 107
    Gideon says:

    Rent on car boot markets increased to £100 per foot

  108. 108
    Anonymous says:

    It won’t be the rich. Rich people don’t pay any tax.

  109. 109
    You know it makes sense says:

    I’m going to vote UKIP to piss the other parties off.

  110. 110
    Jack the Ripper says:

    I like the word “contribution.”

  111. 111
    Jeremy Clarkson's alter ego says:

    i’m going to to stand in Twickenham and give Vince a piece of my mind – Ed who?

  112. 112
    Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

    I earn far, far more than that but I am not paying more taxes, it would certainly cramp my style. Boaz.

  113. 113
    Pollytwaddle says:

    Yes.

    But who would want to live in Newark?

  114. 114
    Drunk Lawyer says:

    £50,000 is, relatively speaking, a large salary. It is not, and never again will be, a very large salary.

    This policy will only appeal to angry Trots who think that anyone earning above the median is an establishment goon. Since such people have sworn never to vote Lib Dem again, you really have to wonder what donkey has been put in charge of strategy.

    However, if they proposed that all earnings below £50,000 were to be at the basic rate of income tax, and made earnings above that level subject to 45% tax, they might be onto a more popular policy. That said, I doubt the sums would add-up: successive Governments have been utterly dependent on fiscal drag.

  115. 115
    Mathers says:

    FFS !! Just spend less money if you’re collecting less !!

    So a liberal’s advice to shop owner seeing hard times would be to just increase prices ??

  116. 116
    Mathers says:

    Hey, nice to see £50K being a large salary. You could afford a £150K house with that, and that as we all know is a mansion.

  117. 117
    David says:

    £50 K p.a. is not enough to buy an average house in London.
    Why not scrap income tax and have a land value tax instead?
    Much fairer as it is not just salary that makes someone well off but also what assets they have.

  118. 118
    Anonymous says:

    The top 10% currently give the government 50% of its tax take. Vince thinks that they (and I am included in this) should pay more because that would be fairer?

    From BBC Web
    Currently the top 10% of all income tax payers in the UK pay about 59% of all income tax

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22575135

  119. 119
    Tony Blair Says says:

    Too complicated to implement – let the middle class plebs pay – someone needs to or how else will we finance my next war.

  120. 120
    MizIamBisexualsothere. says:

    I rather like that CHARLES KENNEDY – misunderstood in my view.

    He’s going to stand, or sit, for his Constituency again – brave boy.

    St.Vince – well, I have my doubts. Now LEMBIK – well, could you ask for more?

    And they all shower together – well done!

  121. 121
    Overfortyandsuffering says:

    My pension is £34.50 a week. Anything over that should be taxed at 75% – that’s only fair. The greedy bastards. Vote Limp-Dem, you know it makes sense.

  122. 122
    highway pa-TROLL says:

    The vast majority of people in the country would consider £50,000 a very large salary: these are not the middle income earners.’

    ALL MERCHANT WANKERS SAY ;

    50 k ?? I give that as a tip to the masseuse.

  123. 123
    MI5andahalf. says:

    Who wants to live in Rhyl? I’ve heard rumours!
    Didn’t Cyril and his mates stay there?

  124. 124
    highway pa-TROLL says:

    Tell you what why don’t carrier bags ban the Govt . ?

    There ‘s lateral thinking for you .

  125. 125
    highway pa-TROLL says:

    Nick Clegg ? Oh wait .. he ‘s an undesirable.

  126. 126
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    If you earn over fifty grand why dont they just imprison you?

  127. 127
    Vote UKIP says:

    40% of £50k is already more than 40% of £32k.

    Tossers.

  128. 128
    Vote UKIP says:

    If I’ve already paid 40% income tax and 12% NI on my salary. If I spend it on a house, why should it get taxed again?

  129. 129
    Mantel says:

    If the khants were that insulted, they would surely feel insulted by living in a non-moslem country.

    They sound like nasty little Anglophobes.

  130. 130
    Vince Kleggle says:

    As good a reason as any

  131. 131
    Still voting UKIP says:

    and someone earning £50 will already have at least 47.7% of their salary deducted due to PAYE and NICs.

  132. 132
    Haribo Halfwit says:

    The slightly less rich folk of Twickenham, whom he represents, might re-elect him though.

  133. 133
    Anonymous says:

    Seems they have learned the lesson and wont be pushing policies they cant implement in any future coalition.

    But that indicates they think a coalition with Labour is more likely next time as I can’t see the Tories going with this one.

    Is that the real reason they didn’t go along with the boundary changes, keep that unfair and undemocratic advantage to Labour and hope that Miliband’s uselessness prevents an outright win?

  134. 134
    Anonymous says:

    No, it’s murder.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-04/the-disgusting-consequences-of-liberal-plastic-bag-bans.html

    People will die because the ‘reusable’ bags are full of bacteria and mould.

    The reason goods are packed in plastic nowadays is because people do not bother washing hands after using the toilet.

  135. 135
    Anonymous says:

    +1000

  136. 136
    Spartacus says:

    +1


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