August 23rd, 2013

“Gibraltar is Spanish” Say Telegraph Readers


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  1. 1
    lolwut says:

    They realise a Telegraph poll isn’t legally binding, right?

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    • 52
      Django of Marbella says:

      If the Treaty of Utrecht is void then so is Maastricht and any other treaty anyone cares to declare as such

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      • 81
        NE Frontiersman says:

        If it’s void, we also want Mallorca back.
        What is it about sovereign treaties that these people don’t understand?

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    • 53
      Rural Retard and Guido Troll says:

      It shows that the Spanish care more and are more avid users of social media than the British, Guido trolls aside.

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      • 78
        Anonymous says:

        Well it isn’t as though the Spanish have a day job to occupy their time is it?

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      • 83
        Terence says:

        Of course the Spanish have more time for social media, their government has arranged all the time they need, they made over 36% of them unemployed.

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        • 84
          Anonymous says:

          MIRA PEDAZO DE GILIPOLLAS, nosotros tendremos mas desempleados pero eso no significa que estemos todo el dia sin hacer nada, nos buscamos la vida, a diferencia de gente como tu que te habran colocado a trabajar sin hacer nada. ¿Sabes que? No merece ni la pena discutir. En fin, si por mi fuera cerraba fronteras y dejaba que os jodieran ahi dentro porque la verdad gastarse 15000€ en hormigon para joder es de ser muy cabrón.

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        • 88
          Carolus says:

          Surely you are so stupid that don’t understand that the british and the gibraltarians that menace to our country are sons of a bitch, in spanish (unos malnacidos) since Henry the 8th you are, in general, as criminals as he was, really you beleive he was the best, isn’t it?.

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  2. 2
    news corpse says:

    and CEUTA /MELLILA are moroccan?

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    • 7
      Pablo Bankrupta says:

      No, no, no is-a different! Give us-a Gibraltar back, then our economy will-a be a success again. Probably.

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    • 44
      George says:

      right

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    • 60
      Anonymous says:

      It beggers belief that the media haven’t made a bigger deal of Spain’s (7?) Moroccan enclaves. You’d have thought Telegraph and BBC hacks would be clamouring to have a little trip to North Africa on expenses, there are plenty of flights and ferries. All sorts of news angles – travel, people trying to get in, similarities between Gib & the colonies etc.

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      • 64
        BBC Agenda Formation Unit says:

        Given the level of our eduction I suspect very few of us Beeboids would be extremely hard pressed to point to Spain on a map of the Iberian peninsula. So expecting us to know of the Spanish Enclaves in North Africa (loved by ileagal immigrants from Sub Saharan Africa) is a bit ambitious. Expecting us to know of the treaty of Lisbon 1668 is downright delusional.

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  3. 3
    Shut them up says:

    Give them Wales.

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  4. 4
    The Pastmaster says:

    Can we have a poll saying Spain should return Cueta to Morocco ??

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      Vaeliaro says:

      To be fair, Morocco didn’t even exist when Spain ‘took’ Ceuta and Melilla. And given the geographical closeness to Spain itself, their case is more akin to the Channel Islands (just off the French coast) than Gibraltar. But Spain doesn’t have any case re:Gibraltar because they signed it over to us in a treaty. If they didn’t want to let the rock go, they shouldn’t have signed the treaty. They made their promise to us for peace, then broke it. So they have no legal case whatsoever – it is unequivocally British (just as Ceuta and Melilla are unequivocally Spanish).

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  5. 5
    Gen. Galtieri says:

    If the port Stanley Gazette ran a poll open to Argies, I wonder what would happen.

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  6. 6
    Whippersnapper2 says:

    A hacked site……..

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  7. 8
    Dago Bancrupta says:

    See, your-a people have-a spoken. Give us-a back Gibraltar with all of the oil wells and diamond mines so our ecoonmy can-a be working again. Like El Presidente say.

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  8. 9
    Robert says:

    Strange how 99.99% voted to remain, and speak English. Rigged votes just make things clearer. Democracy counts for nothing in Spain these days.

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  9. 10
    Maqboul says:

    Another reason to get the fuck out of the EU ?

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  10. 11
    Pikeys Stole My Wheelbarrow says:

    Dear Telegraphico.
    Please to be publish results based on the errrr, how you say? Geography location. Si?

    Gibraltar. Is very nice. Airport very good. How much for your wife?

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  11. 12
    Owen Jones's mum says:

    Owen! Stop using your mobile to vote from Barcelona. We’ve just had a broadband roaming bill for £3000 arrive.

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  12. 13
    Anon says:

    what do you expect from Dagos?

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      The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

      The Spanish must realise that getting Gibraltar back after legally ceding it to Britain is just Paella-in-the-sky thinking.

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        broderick crawford says:

        ehiii paella in sky hombre

        yeh but remember whatah goes uppah
        he muss cummah daahn …

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  13. 14
    Bongo Ryan says:

    Free CEUTA, free MELILLA : now !

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  14. 15
    I read it for the pics of Liz Hurley says:

    The daftest people were the ones who voted to keep Gib British. The result would have looked even sillier if it had been 458,000 – 0

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    Ex Bootneck says:

    The Capture of Gibraltar – 24 July 1704

    The famous attack upon Gibraltar, which led to its surrender to the British,
    on 24 July 1704 was carried out by a brigade of British and Dutch Marines, 1800 strong, under the command of Prince George of Hese-Darmstadt. In the following October, Gibraltar was besieged by the French and Spanish.

    The Marines from the British Fleet, held the fortress against repeated attacks until the siege was raised on 9 March 1705. In one incident in this fighting, Captain Fisher of the Marines with 17 of his men, successfully defended the Round Tower against the continued assaults of 500 French Grenadiers.

    A contemporary report of this noted defence says,
    “Encouraged by the Prince of Hesse, the garrison did more than could humanly be expected, and the English Marines gained an immortal glory.”

    ‘Not only did we batter the Spanish, we also done a few Frogs over too’!

    2013, Second round, (seconds out). Down ramp, out marines…

    With the new modern bayonets you would only be able to skewer two or three at a time, with the old type 18″ bayonet’s of 1704 you could have a dozen ‘paella-munchers’ on it and still have room for three more!

    Yours Aye.

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      Arthur Potter (marine) says:

      No. They tended to bend once you had three wops dangling on ‘em. We preferred to just club them with tent peg hammers. Hear their skulls crack like walnuts. Lovely

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    Anonymous says:

    This only shows that the Telegraph (El Telegrafo) has more Spanish Readers than Gibraltarian readers. Of course they have. Spain’s population is greater in number than Gibraltar’s. but — good to see Spain reading the Telegraph. Might learn some TRUTHS about Gibraltar, and what it’s like to be British. Here’s hoping…..

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    • 30
      Old Blue Eyes says:

      Have you ever bought the Telegraph in Spain? The Spanish would need to take out a mortgage if they took it for a week.

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  17. 19
    So far today, Dave has squandered £26,952,479.71 on our EU membership. says:

    This is interesting: “In 2011 the taxpayers of Spain received from the European Union 51 euros per head over what they contributed. Since its accession to the EU the country has received from the European Union EUR 95368 million over what it has contributed.

    http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=ES

    Basically, our money. But at least they’re grateful.

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    • 47
      Fish says:

      I think that you’ll find that it has only been in recent years that the Froggies became net contributors. A position that they are desperate to reverse.

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  18. 20
    Duck of Palma says:

    They haven’t forgiven us for Trafalgar. Or all those galleons we pirated off them in the 16th century. Or the armada. Or all the countless other times the British Empire beat the Spanish. So many that the dagos had to call their own empire off and retreat to just the peninsular and fight among themselves.

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    • 38
      Tories are easily bought says:

      But at least they can be proud in holding off the yanks until 1976. The Brits gave up their empire and became a US protectorate twenty years earlier.

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      • 46
        The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

        Evidently not as much a US protectorate as Germany where the Americans have a far greater military presence. Yet you never hear the usual nutters mention that.

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          Tories are easily bought says:

          Eh ? I would have thought it was obvious if you had over a hundred thousand US troops and station US nuclear weapons that you were a defacto US protectorate. Frau Merkel is well aware of who her boss is ; She is just the monkey

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    Heel Patch says:

    Has the Telegraph thought of doing a poll about the dispute between Spain and Morocco over Ceuta? (Spanish Morocco).

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  20. 22
    Jose Mourinho says:

    “Tu mama calata” is not a mainland (iberian) expression. it’s a sudaca phrase. just sayin’

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  21. 24
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    I have been a frequent visitor to sunny Spain and have personally boosted their economy by many thousands of Euros/Pesetas. I shall not be going from now on and I suspect a lot of my fellow Brits will act likewise. The hoteliers of Benidorm and the other Costas must be tearing their hair out.

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    • 28
      Benidorm Hotelier says:

      Mayb, but your children/grand children are coming in their droves.

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    • 29
      So far today, Dave has squandered £27,432,908.42 on our EU membership. says:

      +1

      In fact, I bought three bottles of wine this morning and I am delighted to confirm that none of them are Spanish. Indeed, none of the wine we’ve bought (an average of a bottle per day) since the Spanish became a bunch of ingrate tossers has been Spanish.

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    • 40
      Tories are easily bought says:

      You remind me of all the pensioners who would never buy a “Jap ” car……..and the most popular car for the over 70s is……..a Nissan Micra.!

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      • 43
        So far today, Dave has squandered £28,463,590.82 on our EU membership. says:

        I think that was a different generation. My late grandparents never bought anything Japanese. And they were hard-core Labour voters.

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        The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

        The problem the UK has is that far too many people buy foreign products and not enough British ones. Hard to blame them though given the expensive crap that British industry produces thanks to all the regulation and trades union interference.

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    Ian Hislop says:

    Wake up Gheedough, this poll was been mentioned on this blog days ago.

    It’s probably where Barney cun’t’pasted it from.

    Hmm, “Barney” is a very public school name these days isn’t it.

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  23. 32
    Anonymous says:

    It was already outed that the site was hacked by a Spanish Government IP address…yet another atrocity to add to the growing list.

    It just goes to show the ignorance and stupidity of Telegraph readers. It doesn’t ask should Gibraltar be British or spanish. It just asks whether Gibraltar IS British or spanish.

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  24. 34
    Peter Martin says:

    And here was me of the view that the online polls the media get so excited about were amazing representations of what the public as a whole were thinking.

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  25. 36
    Banana Republic Britain says:

    You’ve got to feel sorry for the poor buggers (Spain), their countries facked even worse than Blighty.

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  26. 41
    The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

    How about a poll asking if Britain is British or North West European?

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  27. 42
    BenE says:

    To be fair, it’s not like these Spaniards are bunking off work to spend all day clicking on an online poll…

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    • 49
      The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

      The Spanish don’t need to work. We are paying for their welfare bennies as well as our own.

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  28. 45
    Ebagum Ton says:

    This poll just proves the editor of the Telegraph is a complete moron. They did the exact same thing with the Falklands last year, and STILL didn’t learn.

    I assume they must give REALLY good head to have that job. It’s clearly not based on ability!

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  29. 50

    This looks like a great solution to solving international disputes. Maybe we could have the independence poll in Scotland this way as well? It may save us a few quid.

    Or is it just a clever way of the Telegraph signing up more international readers.

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  30. 54
    Tojo says:

    My wife no longer purchases Spanish Veg from Tesco but then she does not read the Telegraph either…… anything to sell Papers

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  31. 56
    Insert Clever Pseudonym says:

    They should require participators to take a quick Telegraph test before voting. So, what do you think about windfarms? What do you mean you don’t care? You are clearly a Spanish troll, get out of here.

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  32. 58
    El Llanito says:

    Can’t wait for the Barcenas Corruption case to start in September-see how much Rajoy, Margallo Et all have received from brown envelopes, they say they had to open a new factory in Mardid to keep up with demand for Brown envelopes!
    Strange how the Catalans want to disassociate themselves from Spain, they have even invited the Chief Minister of Gibraltar to their festivities, says something, I think. Once Catalunia becomes autonomous this will be followed by the,Galicians,The Basques and Andalucians? Watch this space, folks, The Partido Popular is in so much shit that it can be smelled Globally,

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      broderick crawford says:

      indeed it’s a wonder it hasn’t yet ordered its military aircraft to seek sanctuary at the vaca muerta aerodrome in argentina . after all it’s still legally spanish territory if you ignore the smallproblem of christina de kirchner having nationalised the current owners of the site — — spanish oil company YPF ….

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  33. 59
    I'm No Mug Merkel says:

    Give them Cyprus its nearer than Wales & the weathers nicer

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  34. 65
    Francis D says:

    Take my drum to England,
    hang et by the shore,
    Strike et when your powder’s runnin’ low;
    If the Dons sight Devon,
    I’ll quit the port o’ Heaven, An’ drum them up the Channel as we drummed them long ago.

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    • 72
      broderick crawford says:

      ROLFIE BABY SINGS

      Tan me hide when I’m dead Fred
      Tan me hide when I’m dead
      So we tanned his hide when he died Clyde
      An’ that’s it hanging on the shed .

      (copyright TwoLittleBoys Enterprises … by kind permission )

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  35. 70
    Swooning Julie, Lobbyist says:

    As Dave so heroically said, “Darfur is more important than Gibraltar”

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    • 75
      Anonymous says:

      His only major foreign policy statement ever – the rat!

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    • 76
      broderick crawford says:

      yes well … if its in South Sudan it’s got oil .

      If it’s in ( North ) Sudan it’ s got access to a seaport from which to ship it .

      So eitther way yes .. it’s more important than Gib .

      ( at least until such time as they discover something more marketable than a load of resident monkeys there)

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  36. 73
    Swooning Julie, Important Lobbyist says:

    I AM very important and influential, and I WILL have my say.
    Dave is simply simply so prophetic.

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  37. 79
    sunray499802 says:

    This was not a legitimate poll. The Telegraph should be ashamed of it as it allowed multi-responses. Out of curiosity I voted several times. The result is not commensurate with the papers readership profile. It was obviously hijacked by Spanish internet trolls. No respectable market researcher would put their name to this. Telegraph must try harder…..

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  38. 80
    Mr Pep Guardiola says:

    lets have a poll on whether Barcelona should be Catalan or Spanish…….would love to see that result

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  39. 82
    Anonymous says:

    Lets have a poll asking if Spain is actually “North Gibraltar”?

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  40. 87
    Miguel de torres says:

    All your base are belong to us.

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