August 2nd, 2013

LibDems Will Not Automatically Reinstate Whip to David Ward

The agreement made between Clegg, LibDem chief whip Alistair Carmichael and David Ward that said the controversial MP would automatically have the LibDem whip reinstated on September 13 is in tatters. Carmichael is out of the country, though a LibDem source says “it would be difficult” to accept Ward back into the party after he openly defied Clegg yesterday by repeating his belief that the future of the state of Israel is not guaranteed. Spare a thought for Carmichael, who had his birthday ruined by Ward and is now having his holiday disrupted. A spokesman tells Guido:

“This situation will be revisited when all parties return to Westminster. Bearing in mind these comments, they will play a very important part in any decision about his reinstatement to the parliamentary party.”

When Guido put it to them that Clegg would look ridiculous reinstating Ward after yesterday’s comments, there was hardly disagreement… 


62 Comments

  1. 1
    Two Dogs of Empiricism says:

    LibDems will not do anything.

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      The Fifty Seventh Earl of Perineum says:

      I have so many monikers that I sometimes confuse myself. I particularly like the fact that my two dogs one is so divergent from my cat. This one is just clever. Ho hum, life goes on. I will bring SC back soon. Thanks for your support.

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      • 27
        Two Dogs of Empiricism says:

        Hello sockpuppet!

        If you had even one ounce of intelligence, you would understand the meaning of my moniker and what it was named after.

        Unfortunately…

        WVOQ

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        • 28
          The Fifty Seventh Earl of Perineum says:

          Thanks for the admission.
          QED

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          • Maqboul says:

            Sublime irony, tat accusing others of having too many monikers. What next, Mugabe accusing Norway of vote rigging in the Eurovision song contest?

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          • Hat tip says:

            I had not realised that Cat, Two Dogs and the Fifty Seventh Earl were one in the same, but actually it now seems so obvious. Does SC have other monikers? The Earl is used to comment anybody who is critical of SC. Two Dogs is used when there is too much heat on SC. He must have others.
            Chuka would be proud!

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          • Two Dogs of Empiricism says:

            @12:39 pm: Are you new here?

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  2. 2
    Elephant in the room says:

    What do Ward’s constituents think about this, and for that matter the local party in Bradford East ?

    Nick Clegg is an irrelevance.

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    • 32
      jax says:

      This blog hates democracy mate. The writer often shows his contempt for the common man not seeing the irony that he is an obese alcoholic

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      • 48
        Simon B says:

        The writer is one of life’s success stories. The so-called “common man” is, well, common and not much of a man. It’s not the common man who does great things and makes history, matey. It’s people like Guido and businesses owners like me. And why should this blog or anyone else love democracy when “people” keep voting for ZaNuLieBore and the LimpDumbs?

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        • 55
          Spel-it-rite says:

          I’d love to hear about the history you’ve made, Mr Business Owner. Was it you that brought down Communism in Europe? Was that you on the Western Front? Or are you the one under the bed when the bullets are flying? Hunt.

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      • 53
        FFS says:

        Why bring Alistair Cambell into it?

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    • 34

      That’s the crux of the matter: the constituents of Bradford East are Ward’s intended audience. The LibDems are doomed and I suspect he’s doing a bit of a Galloway.

      (Hmm. Am I allowed to say the word ‘crux’ when talking about the electorate of Bradford East? Probably not.)

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      • 43
        Anonymous says:

        But then what do you care. As long as all the money goes into driving the illegals out of London by making a few high profile arrests.

        Where would you go if you wish to hide?

        Maybe into that forgotten land of Yorkshire that has more people than Scotland and is hidden between the “desolate” North West and the North East.

        This is why the government is failing. They do not understand their own country.

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        • 49
          Simon B says:

          I’m glad the Police are driving illegals out of London. The snatch squads and random checking of papers is exactly what this nation needs. Maybe soon we can also build residential camps for these “people” (as well as the unproductive disabled and unemployed) so they can actually be useful and productive again. Say what you will about the regimes of the 1930s but at least they had b a l l s and knew how to sort out problems. Too many disabled? Sorted. Too many unemployed? Job’s a good un. Too many “alien elements”? If we hadn’t allied ourselves with Commies in WWII, maybe this nation would still be GREAT Britain.

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      • 51
        Chris says:

        What he said – what I was going to say. I suppose scum are entitled to appropriate representation too.

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  3. 3
    A Reader says:

    I do not belive that the Kingdom of Spain will last indefinitely or that the long term prospects for the Federation of Nigeria are very good. Does that mean I would not be allowed to be a Lib Dem?

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  4. 4
    Jimbob says:

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  5. 6
    Living in 97.223% white Merseyside says:

    What whip are they referring to? Does he carry one around like Julius Streicher used to?

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    • 15
      Indiana Jones MP says:

      I have one, but Rennard hasn’t returned it yet.

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    • 19
      Ed Miliband: One Nation = Ein Reich, BBC = Der Sturmer says:

      Julius Streicher – interesting character.

      Prominent socialist and member of the NSDAP – further proves the case that the National Socialists were indeed very much left wing and ‘Socialist’

      Well worth a read for those unfamiliar:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher

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      • 33
        Maqboul says:

        Fascism is just a refinement of socialism. The Nazis outsourced their monopoly to corporations leading to efficiencies such as making the trains run on time. Ironically this led to the reason they lost the war which was because the Nazi war effort was so dissipated by the Wernacht having to haul around trainloads of mewling j­ews that they took their eyes off the Allied threat.

        And even to this day national and international socialists blame the j­ews for Hitler’s defeat and will never forgive them, manifesting itself in all fashions including the hatred of Isr­ael and its right to exist.

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  6. 8
    Ron Coverson says:

    Why are you so pro-Israeli Government? Arab citizens are clearly discriminated against and Israel is in contravention of United Nation’s decrees.

    The policies of the Israeli Government seems to have become an issue that is not allowed to be questioned. Rather like discussing immigration during the last Labour government.

    When the two state solution talks do commence the nature of both Israel and Palastine will be on the table.

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    • 20
      Maqboul says:

      Might be something to do with preferring a democracy over a Iranian sponsored cleptocracy. Just a thought.

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      • 31
        Anonymous says:

        But that is the whole point; a democracy has to be democratic. Or is just labelling anything with a “nice” word, all that is needed? Democratic is just like “pregnant”, there are no half way stages.

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          Maqboul says:

          Eh? So if a girl is 4½ months pregnant she is not at the half way stage?

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          • Anonymous says:

            We have no hope!

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          • Anonymous says:

            From your use of the word “girl” I assume you are a minor also. So I will explain. To be half way to anywhere you have to be on the way to the situation or place.

            So 4.5 months in, a female is half way to not being pregnant. I know it is hard to grasp, but the concepts of absolute situations does not come easy to some. It is why we tolerate politicians and lawyers, as they are mostly afflicted with this mental inability. It would be tragic if there was no place for them and they tried to be engineers or doctors.

            So democracy, however implemented, has to actually be for the whole population. You can not have a democracy that is only for a certain few.

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    • 56
      FFS says:

      “Arab citizens are clearly discriminated against ”

      Are they? I think you want to take a look at the Israeli constitution which actually ensures just the opposite. Many Arabs live perfectly happily within Israel’s borders, they just aren’t what we call today “Palestinians”. Take a look at Bedouins in Israel, many of whom actually volunteer for the Israeli army.

      Stop believing all that Arab propaganda. That Pallywood stuff is not meant for you anyway, it’s meant to give Arab despots something to distract their restless compatriots with.

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  7. 10
    Nick Clegg says:

    I will show him who is boss. I’ll surprise him all right, by reinstating the whip this afternoon.

    No One messes with me and gets away with it.

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    • 50
      Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

      How about me Nicky. I am missing my taxpayer funded shagging trips abroad. Boaz.

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  8. 11
    Beard Clippings and red sock brigade says:

    We despise Israel. There just aren’t enough footpaths and bridle ways.

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      Cyril fat boy. says:

      But the style of Israel’s democracy and proportional representation is something the Limp-Dems would give anything for. But they got their vote and were well and truly f****d. And thats what really hurts. Limp-dems loosers.

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  9. 13
    Mrsshitrit says:

    Will he jump ship onto Galloway’s respect party ?

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  10. 18
    Nothing Better To Do says:

    I could give a long list of countries whose future is not guaranteed. All of them in fact. Just look at all the big shot empires that have come and gone. Ours included.Am I know expelled from the Lib Dems as well?

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  11. 21
    Tachybaptus says:

    How could anyone disagree about Clegg looking ridiculous? It isn’t just looks, and it isn’t just now.

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  12. 22
    fence sitter says:

    Splitting hairs perhaps Guido but I place the accent of his words on “the apartheid state of Isra-el to mean the implementation/ direction of zio-nist hawks as opposed to The State of Isra-el itself.
    A plea to Bibi perhaps to show a little more understanding for all creeds who used to or still live there.

    For the whole region, One man’s Sho-ah is just another mans Nak-ba.

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  13. 23
    David Ward Is A Plonker says:

    The future of Israel is not guaranteed, though. Everyone in Israel knows that, which explains their prevalent attitudes to life, death, war and politics. It’s a fairly rough way to live, which comfortable middle-class Anglos would do well to appreciate, even while trying to see the Palestinians’ point of view as well.

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      Point of Information 2 says:

      White middle class anglos really don’t owe anything to those people, so why should they give a toss or feel guilty about their plight ?

      They have made their bed, and now need to lay in it. If it becomes a problem for the economic / national security interests of the UK then they should be dealt with robustly.

      We are dealing with Old Testament folk here: Rules are eye for an eye, mercy / compassion is for losers.

      This does not excuse Wards casting of the first stone.

      It is still somewhat of a mystery as to what his real intentions are.

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  14. 25
    Jimmy says:

    “Clegg would look ridiculous”

    Imagine that.

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  15. 26
    George Galloway says:

    Please show some respect towards David Ward.

    Oy Vey.

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  16. 30
    Owen Jones says:

    WICKET – Smith c Bairstow b Swann 89 (Aus 343-4)

    Graeme Swann from the (old) Pavilion End, to bowl to Smith on 88. A confident push to leg brings him a single, Clarke rotates the strike with a forward prod. Then Smith hits it high in the air, a big slog over mid-wicket.. and he’s caught!

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  17. 38
    Fecund Dart says:

    What will be will be but I’ll place money on the fact that Nick Clegg will be long gone (thankfully) even if DW’s prediction proved correct. Same goes for DW and DC but what about UKIP?

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  18. 46

    This geez needs a zipped lip.

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  19. 57
    Alphons says:

    What gets me is that this chap has only said what is blindingly obvious. How can that be construed as anything other than stating the obvious.
    I imagine if you asked most of the people in Isreal what their opinion was, they would agree with him.

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    • 59
      FFS says:

      You think that Israel being an “apartheid state” is blindingly obvious???

      You do realise that “apartheid” in South Africa denied the full rights of citizens against their wishes. The Palestinians choose of their own free will not to take up Israeli citizenship and therefore cannot have the same rights of other Israeli citizens because they deny its right to exist. Other Arabs living in Israel that have taken up Israeli citizenship get exactly the same rights as other Israeli citizens – they get to vote and Arabs can stand succesfully for election to the Knesset. Go and read something about Israel before spouting mindless anti-semitic Guardian propaganda.

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      • 62
        Anonymous says:

        Many Black South Africans refused to consider themselves citizens of the Apartheid ‘South Effrikka’.

        I think you know less about Apartheid than you do about Palestine and the European invaders’ imperialist racist state.

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  20. 60

    Why do him for saying how he and the folks who voted for him see it

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  21. 61
    Anonymous says:

    Ward has NOT been suspended from the Lib Dem Party, he has been temporarily suspended from the parliamentary party (which there’s no point in being in over the summer anyway) as a result of a private chin wag by a ‘gang of three’ who prosecuted him before themselves.

    I cannot imagine the parliamentary party will accept this action when they get back to business. But will they say ‘boo’ to Nick Clegg and his important funders’ Zionist agenda?

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