August 1st, 2013

Labour MP: I Don’t Know What Ed Stands For or Believes In

Veteran Labour MP George Mudie has hit Miliband’s problems right on the head:

“..the real thing is, do you know, ‘cos I don’t, know our position on welfare, do you know our position on education, do you know our genuine position on how we’d run the health service?”

Time is running out for an answer to that.

Transcript of Mudie’s quotes are here or listen again here.

The New Statesman was saying much the same this morning, and LabourList were reporting leadership murmurs about Miliband’s “drift”. Even Owen Jones is kicking poor old Ed:

Almost as if this was getting some momentum… 


  1. 1
    End this nonsense says:

    Why doesn’t he do the honourable thing and resign?

  2. 2
    British Democracy is broken says:

    Why obey a whip you do not understand and agree with?

  3. 3
    Fucha Leeder of da Laba Party says:

    Make Ed a Lord

  4. 4
    Anti-Rentier Alliance (Ban The Whig Rent Seeking Elite) says:

    To be honest I’ve know idea what the Tories stand for anymore…

    …unless you are a land owner landlord, banker, the “1%”

    Good luck with that

  5. 5
    Anti-Rentier Alliance (Ban The Whig Rent Seeking Elite) says:

    oops s/know/no

  6. 6
    A random Politician says:

    What do you also expect integrity now?

  7. 7
    Richard Head says:

    According to AcronymFinder, ED stands for:

    Ear Diameter
    Early Death
    Eating Disorder
    Ectodermal Dysplasias
    Electric Dipole
    Electronic Distancer
    Emergency Destruction
    Emotional Dysregulation
    Enhanced Damage
    Enzymatic Digestion
    Erectile Dysfunction
    Error Density
    Evil Dead

  8. 8
    ED says:

    What? eh? what? eh? I think I would make a good peer along with my friend Gordon.

  9. 9
    Simon B says:

    Ed Miliband (and Labour) stand for communism. Simples.

  10. 10
    Muddling Through says:

    If you don’t know, why not read a few papers or go to the Tory website, or this one, for that matter?

    The disgraceful thing about Mudie is that he is paid to know what his party stands for. He puts himself forward as representing them. If he no longer has a clue, he should quit the party or quit parliament.

  11. 11
    Simon B says:

    I’m a buy-to-let landlord. The Tories have my back.

  12. 12
    Tony says:

    Me too I would make good PIER what with my offshore friends.

  13. 13
    Ed Balls says:

    I’m making moves.

  14. 14
    Anon says:

    I think you will find that you are a childish tosser

  15. 15
    Spot the Intern says:

    Make your mind up. Yesterday you were pretending to be a captain of industry.

  16. 16
    Ed Balls says:


  17. 17
    Bliar says:

    Evil Dead

    That’ll be Blair when he kicks the bucket.

  18. 18
    Anonymous says:

    Ed Milliband stands for himself … I thought that was obvious.

  19. 19
    Simon B says:

    Typical leftie. Always resorting to personal insults of those of us who are more successful and get on in life.

  20. 20
    Anti-Rentier Alliance (Ban The Whig Rent Seeking Elite) says:

    who isn’t a buy to let landlord these days? My home is my pension..The problem with rentierism is that you run out of productive peoples money (and even productive people) in the end

  21. 21
    have you noticed how the Islamic for Allah looks like the Loch Ness monster ? says:

    typed from a sed entary position

  22. 22
    Maqboul says:

    Len won’t let him blow his investment.

  23. 23
    Simon B says:

    I’m a small business owner who happens to own several properties as well. Due keep up, commie. Not all of us are as idle as you.

  24. 24
    Edward Luther-Miliband says:

    Don’t know! Don’t know? Stupid man.
    My blank sheet of paper , grasped tightly in my hand at each PMQs explains it all.

    ‘I have a dream’

  25. 25
    Oh dear... says:

    Are you bored with the primary school holidays already?

  26. 26
    Maqboul says:

    Two more weeks until the A level results are out then our hilarious little satirist will be away.

  27. 27
    Jon says:

    Anyone hear the interviews on World at One? Sadiq Khan was on there defending Ed- didn’t really answer any questions, but managed to get the bizarre and meaningless phrase “heavy lifting” in there at least 4 times. Weird.

  28. 28
    Anti-Rentier Alliance (Ban The Whig Rent Seeking Elite) says:

    Well if we all had “several properties” there wouldn’t be much countryside left

  29. 29
    His Eminence Cardinal Blair says:

    I never published any policies and it id me no harm! Take my tip, Ed, and stick to warm-sounding waffle.

  30. 30
    His Satanic Majesty, Father of Lies says:

    Well he’s not coming here. He’d make me feel small.

  31. 31
    David "The Terminator" Miliband says:

    Hasta la vista, baby – I’ll be back…

  32. 32
    Maqboul says:

    The second time that day he had been clutching a piece of paper in his sweaty hand.

  33. 33
    Simon B says:

    Well a couple of my tenants are getting housing benefit. I say they get it, but the money actually goes to me, yet it’s the tenants the media calls scroungers! Housing Benefit in the private sector is simply a well-deserved subsidy for productive people like me. I see it as a form of tax refund from the massive theft of Blair and Brown. God knows we deserve it after the billions the last ZaNuLieBore government wasted giving to life’s losers like the so-called “disabled” and the workshy. I get a tax refund and the tabloids point fingers at the housing benefit claimants!

    Told you the Tories had my back.

  34. 34
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Presumably Ed Miliband’s position is to dither and then waste money on failed ideas whilst he straddles the canyon with the electorate on one side and Red Len and Ed Balls on the other.

    He’s a ditherer who sits on something for years and tends to make up policies in a panic. See how he sat on plans to improve Heathrow airport for years only to announce half-baked plans with more terms and conditions than a Ryanair ticket.

  35. 35
    Maqboul says:

    You should do stand-up, mate.

  36. 36
    Oh dear... says:

    I thought the eleven plus results were out. OK, obvious failure.

  37. 37 says:

    Despite our policy Simon, in your case we will make an exception.


  38. 38
    Tom Watson says:

    Look tone it down a bit will you, otherwise it will be obvious you are a bed wetter.

  39. 39
    Lenin McClusterfuck says:

    No you won’t sonny. I will announce his successor shortly, as soon as she’s made my breakfast in fact.

  40. 40
    Ed Moribund says:

    If you ask me what I stand for, what I’d say is that I stand for election

  41. 41
    Tom Watson says:

    All going to plan.

    I told the little shit he would regret it.

  42. 42
    Point of Information 2 says:

    It should not be forgotten that most of the shoah final solution was executed on Pol!sh soil.

    It is incredible to believe that all killing was perpetrated by G’erman occupiers. There was wide scale and somewhat willing collaboration by the people of Poland.

    This is where Ed Miliband’s family are from: Those are his values.

  43. 43
    Mens sana in corpore sano says:

    The Tower Hamlets focus group said Ed should be using the halal method these days

  44. 44
    There's always an angle says:

    He is probably trying to get a sponsorship from his local gym

  45. 45
    ATOS says:


  46. 46
    Ed Miliband says:

    I believe I can fly
    I believe I can touch the sky
    I think about it every night and day
    Spread my wings and fly away
    I believe I can soar
    I see me running through that open door
    I believe I can fly

  47. 47
    Your Friendly Neighbourhood Classic Comedy Sketch Service says:

    Benny Hill joke from the 1970’s (not off-colour):

    A rich father (Hill) tells his son that, wherever possible, in order to hold onto more of your money, cut out the middle man at every chance; the father is so animated in the telling, that he appears to be having a heart attack. The son gets on the phone:

    Son: “Hello, morgue? Could you send a hearse to [address]?”
    Hill: “Don’t you mean ‘hospital’ and ‘ambulance’?”
    Son: “Cutting out the middle man, Pops…”

  48. 48
    Who is Owen Jones? says:

    And Mr Owen Jones works for?

  49. 49
    Simon B says:

    Arf, arf! But I’m dead funny I am. Really winding these righties up like clockwork mice. I am so fucking funny that I make Rik Mayall look like funeral director. teeheehee

  50. 50
    Nadine Dorries says:

    Yes, Why?

  51. 51
    Simon B says:

    Yeth you wotten commie you. hahahaha

  52. 52
    Miliband = National Plonker says:

    Ed Miliband kneels down in front of communism.

  53. 53
    Dr Sarah Wollaston MP says:

    Search me. Why?

  54. 54
    Ed's Dad says:

    My first name was Adolphe until I changed it to Ralph

  55. 55
    Cheryl Gillan MP says:

    I don’t know. Why?

  56. 56
    Ed Miliband says:

    I give you my cast iron guarantee I will always put my nation first – Israel.

  57. 57
    anonymous says:

    FFS grow up and do something useful with your life. Although no doubt that would be a challenge for you.

  58. 58
    Maqboul says:

    Ralph Hitler? Don’t think so – doesn’t fit with the ruthless image.

  59. 59
    Just being impartial says:

    Prat. Get a life!

  60. 60
    Guido Fawkes little boys says:

    Oy vey, is it time to shill for the priest-beheading Free Syrian Army again, for my beloved Israel?

  61. 61
    Simon B says:

    Oooh you are awful! Must be a Trossachite.

  62. 62
  63. 63
    Unintended Consequences says:

    I blame IDS to some extent. Every since he closed those basket weaving factories for the retarded we have had Labour trolls like this hanging around on here trying to interrupt threads and distract attention from posts about the scum who make up the Labour Party.

  64. 64
    Same Old says:

  65. 65
    Penfold says:

    When’s the Putsch?

    I need to get me airbrush out, cleaned and ready !

  66. 66
    Louise ( woman of high principle ) Mensch says:

    You can shag me for a promotion.


    Ok, I’m off out of here.

  67. 67
    The BBC Trust next? says:

    The BBC are celebrating too.

  68. 68
    Maq­boul says:

    So basically, George is saying that Red Ed is clueless and a liability?

  69. 69
    Lenin McClusterfuck says:

    He works for the Revolution brother.

  70. 70
    Smig says:

    Ed, Ed and Eddy don’t know their arses from their elbows.

    Red Len knows the difference, and even then its only because he doesn’t wipe his arms on andrex.

  71. 71
    Maqboul says:

    “Due (sic) keep up..”


  72. 72
    Len McCluskey says:

    Owen Jones is a first rate twerp,and here is further proof.

    CCHQ Press Office ‏@RicHolden
    .@OwenJones84 ‘Proper public control’? You mean formally nationalise. I think public want banks to pay back borrowed cash, not run them…

    His tweets are worse than useless.

  73. 73
    Penfold says:

    Sadiq’s CV:-

    From 1994 to 1997, he was employed as a trainee solicitor and assistant solicitor at the firm of Christian Fisher. From 1997 to 2005, he served as a partner in the firm Christian Khan with Louise Christian.
    During his legal career specialised in actions against the police, employment and discrimination law, judicial reviews, inquests and crime, and was involved in a number of landmark cases.
    He is also Chair of the Fabian Society.

    Another lawyer, and another to make a living out of the race game.

  74. 74
    Sir Alec Guinness says:

    They’re all in it together.

    SW1A 1AA: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

  75. 75
    So what business are you in Simple Simon? says:

    Small business owner my arse, you don’t have the faintest clue how to motivate anyone, or get the best out of people.

  76. 76
    Anonymous says:

    I worry about GF. How could anyone with no substance have momentum?

  77. 77
    lola says:

    True, but Mudie was the one bloke who tried to tell that t**t Sants where to get off when he, Sants, faced the TSC.

  78. 78
    Put 2 and 2 together says:

    Probably picked up Fartbot.

  79. 79
    St. Stephen of All Drug Dealers says:

    Rightly so, they are our best customers.

  80. 80
    lola says:

    So, rent seeking git then?

  81. 81
    bergen says:

    There are enough “red rosette on a donkey” voters to get him to Downing Street on a split vote so long as he says nothing really stupid and that seems simply to be the plan. I expect the manifesto will be writing on water.

  82. 82
    History says:

    Andrex is a very fine British invention, developed at a time when the factory in east London was being regularly bombed by the Germans. The morale-boosting invention of 2-ply toilet tissue under such circumstances is the mark of a very civilised nation indeed.

  83. 83
    lola says:

    You are Tony Blair and I claim my £5

  84. 84
    Airey Belvoir says:

    Lady, surely? Unless Sadiq knows something we don’t……

  85. 85
    Put 2 and 2 together says:

    I have not seen or heard any politician or paper speak against this appointment, even the DM is praising it. Funny when people like Sadiq probably oppose the HoL.

  86. 86
    Anonymous says:

    People are referred to as having a buy-to-let mortgage. A real landlord just calls themself a “Landlord”. They obviously bought it and let it.

    You sound like you are a tenant.

  87. 87
    Ed Miliband says:

    I have a drear, that one day, a nation, a single nation ( we can’t have two ) will hold hands and elect me as their dear leader, I have a drear.

  88. 88
    A McCarthy Witch Hunt says:

    Judging by his former lawyer friends and colleagues, he is probably far more authoritarian and left wing than he currently lets on.

  89. 89
    Common Sense says:

    Buy to let is done to death and only for the little people now, every illegal immigrant and foreigner is in on the game, profits are thin these days.

    The real money is in Buy to Windfarm, Buy to Solar power and Buy to Diesel back up power generation. Must better profits and good cashflow from government subsidies.

    Do keep up..

  90. 90
    Airey Belvoir says:

    I have seen a few comments that the Lawrence death involved drug gang rivalry. none of this was reported at the time, (too sensitive?) and all we heard was the usual ‘honour student’ stuff. Reported as a random motiveless racist assault. Did any details come out in court that put Lawrence and Duwayne Brooks in a less than shining light?

  91. 91
    Engineer says:

    George Mudie doesn’t know what Ed Miliband stands for? I suspect the main reason for that is that Ed Miliband doesn’t know what Ed Miliband stands for, either.

  92. 92
    Nick says:

    Ed doesn’t stand for nothing nice guy just very muddled

  93. 93
    Common Sense says:

    And sucks the Marxist c0ck.

  94. 94
    herewegoagain says:

    He believes in furthering his own wealth, as they all do….

  95. 95
    have you noticed how the Islamic for Allah looks like the Loch Ness monster ? says:

    just the other day I had a nostalgic look at my super ’63s

  96. 96
    No such thing as society says:

    So therefore his the perfect embodiment of the Tory dream

  97. 97
    Anonymous says:

    Yaaaaawn. Every now and then a pre-pubescent Troll like you post only this sight and they get tiresome very quickly.

  98. 98
    Simon B says:

    I bought my properties outright. No mortgage needed for me. Those are for the little people. Kind of like how I get (and profit) all the housing benefit, but the ones who claim it get all the hate from society, the government and media.

    I see there are already people posting as me. I’ve obviously inspired people. No doubt they’re just jealous, envious lefty s c u m, probably whining about their low pay (because they’re not a striver like me). Probably on zero-hours contracts as well because they can’t compete with the big boys.

  99. 99
    Anonymous says:

    Why doesn’t Owen Jones run for Labour leader? After all he is an intellectual powerhouse who has an answer to everything; what could possibly go wrong?

  100. 100
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Ed Miliband stands for hypocrisy, lies, being two faced, backing Gordon Brown, spending your money on wasteful projects, backing labour ministers such as Burnham, a poodle of the unions, non-openness (Falkirk report), no policies, negativity.

  101. 101
    Anonymous says:

    The guy who “masterminded”Eds leadership campaign.(i didnt catch his name) was on the world at one to answer George Mudies comments.It was hilarious! he did everything but ! he had to be brought back time and time again to the subject in hand from ranting about the Conservatives, happy days !

  102. 102
    Anonymous says:


  103. 103
    Michael O'Leary says:

    That will be another five pounds.

  104. 104
    stark says:


  105. 105
    Cornish Pilchard says:

    “I Don’t Know What Ed Stands For or Believes In”

    Nor do I know.

    Nor do I care

  106. 106
    Anonymous says:

    Enhanced damage is if Labour get back in and continue the destruction

  107. 107
    Anonymous says:

    Ed already does the stage would be crowded with two

  108. 108
    Gordon McFuckwit-Bust says:

    More people in work, economy on the up , NHS getting sorted and education improving
    If that’s the TOry dream I’ ll have a large slice

  109. 109
    Gordon McFuckwit-Bust says:

    Hahahahah good one

  110. 110
    Nose wheel says:

    And don’t bring any baggage with you if we are entering a contractural relationship

  111. 111
    Adelphi Shekelgruber says:

    I and roasting in a very hot place for what I did

  112. 112
    Dumbfuck UKIP voter says:

    We will certainly do all we can to help Millitwat to the keys of NO 10 and remove any possible chance of a referendum

  113. 113
    broderick crawford says:

    he doesn’t

    he’s a journo . ….allegedly.

  114. 114
    broderick crawford says:

    giss a go… nads

  115. 115
    Pick litter for bennies says:

    He started with a blank sheet and has still got a blank sheet.I do hope we get a live election debate.

  116. 116
    Pick litter for bennies says:

    I even got the mass immigration policy implemented-with a lot of help from the Beeb.

  117. 117
    Class Interests says:

    Must be the heat. For what was to be a damaging attack on Red ED losing his way, somehow manages to lose its’ way and become more than a little pointless. What’s It All About Alfie?

  118. 118
    superman says:

    Milliband is an opportunist

  119. 119
    Tony Blair spelt c-u-n-t says:

    But you must have made a packet out of my housing bubble and increase in demand for rented houses. We property owners should stick together.

  120. 120
    Owen's mum says:

    Because you have to be 18 to be an MP. And, as I tell Owen every day, you’ll never be a big boy if you don’t eat your vegetables

  121. 121
    The Noble Lord Blaby says:

    Just taking some time out from obsessing about Europe when I happened upon coverage of the Labour party implosion in progress. It seems that the “balance of imcompetences” exercise has been now been concluded by the unions, and the “Destroy Milliband” button has been depressed in Red Len’s bunker.

  122. 122
    IDS advisor says:

    Ed Miliband is much better than D-Smith. The lack of judgement of Smith caused the Conservatives to vote for IRAQ!!!!

    Q. Can D-Smith display some political honour and resign from politics over being a leading player in forcing the political vote over IRAQ?

    Last person to show some honour over judgement was Lord Carrington.

    Go on D-Smith do the decent thing.

    God help the labour party if he ever made himself as an example.

  123. 123
    Mrs Havisham says:

    I don’t know who George Mudie is. Never heard of him. Is he a Blairite plant?

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