July 31st, 2013

Sun Sets Out Where it Stands

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Iconic wrap for the Sun today. Inside a double page spread setting out where the Sun stands on politics – “we back politicians when they do what is best for our readers and criticise them when they don’t” – welfare – “this culture of entitlement exploded under the last Labour government and must end” and the NHS – “David Cameron was wrong to ring-fence spending”, to name but three.

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New editor making his mark…


157 Comments

  1. 1
    Digger says:

    Hey you fool this should be behind a paywall. How else can I afford all the super injunctions.

  2. 2
    The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

    The NHS should be privatised as it is in most other countries.

  3. 3

    The arm of Murdoch has grown long.

  4. 4
    BBC says:

    Hate, hate, hate.

  5. 5
    Ed MilliBrain says:

    Oh dear!

    Len – what should I do? Help! they’re all against me.

  6. 6
    The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

    How arrogant to assume our health system is right and all the others are wrong. It is just like religion.

  7. 7
    A nincumpoop says:

    Did you watch last night as Stella chewed Toby on Newsnight? Delicious!

  8. 8
    The Archduke of Croydon says:

    Er … the NHS doesn’t exist in other countries, you fuckwit, so how can t be privatised there?

  9. 9
    Village Idiot says:

    ….I preferred Britain pre Windrush and pre European Union and more recently,pre 13 devastating years of Labour Rule…From what it was to what it is,is very,very,very sad….Hey Ho!!!! at least it’s raining!!!!

  10. 10
    Anonymous says:

    “our”

    Must mean Rupe and Beks and such like.

  11. 11
    The Duke of Plaza Toro says:

    Nice to see a protecting angel in the north-east corner.

  12. 12
    Anonymous says:

    Yep.

    Toby was pathetic. No change there then.

    And he’s still grasping his weak chin to try to look profound. Wanker.

  13. 13
    Digger says:

    Why should I share?

  14. 14
    The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

    You are the ignorant fuckwit who has deliberately misinterpreted the meaning of the sentence.

  15. 15
    plus ca small change says:

    mom (well milf anyway) and apple pie

  16. 16
    what is the sun's position on huge boobies ? says:
  17. 17
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    So Guido’s blog is now confirmed as a front for the Sun?

  18. 18
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    BBC Breakfast – Susanna Reid – Useless interviewer – Notice how the tone of her voice alters to hatred when she interviews a tory – rest of the time she is so false, reminds me of Yvette Cooper’s style.

  19. 19
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    The Sun’s position is up front.

  20. 20
    The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

    So when it displays a Guardian page it is a front for the Guardian is it?

  21. 21
    Claire Cider says:

    I’ve always had a secret desire to be on Page 3, but alas they’ve drooped.

  22. 22
    C.O.Jones says:

    Why do people watch that crap?

  23. 23
    Commie McCluskey, leader of the Labour Party, says:

    Shut up and make the tea.

  24. 24
    The Fifty Seventh Earl of Perineum says:

    When are they going to create a copy/paste command for dead wood print?

    …we back politicians when they do what is best for our readers and criticise them when they don’t…

    Sun sub-editors better than gf!

  25. 25
    Centre Parting says:

    She’s not even good enough to be on ITV in the morning.

  26. 26
    100wpm says:

    Didn’t realise anyone still watched Newsnight.

  27. 27
    Living in 97.223% white Merseyside says:

    All of this is a bit rich coming from the Sun which once advocated Scottish independence.

  28. 28
    The Fifty Seventh Earl of Perineum says:

    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
          (.) (.)

  29. 29
    Owen "hammer" Jones says:

    Yeah, that’s told you Eddie-babes

  30. 30
    Annita Govvradump says:

    And who – apart from the linguistically challenged – reads The Sun?

  31. 31
    Apollo says:

    What does the Sun have to say about immigration? If they duck this, then their opinions are worthless, for it is at the heart of most of our nation’s woes.

  32. 32
    No Change there then says:

    Obviously, village idiots still do.

  33. 33
    100wpm says:

    Most BBC interviewers are like that.
    Their hatred of the right is now so
    ingrained,they can’t disguise it.
    It’s so unprofessional.

  34. 34
    All Scousers Are Scum says:

    You dumbass Scousers really showed ‘em. You almost brought Murdoch’s most profitable title to it’s knees ……………… NOT!!!!

    “Justice for the 2,000,000 grieving friends & relatives of the 96 – where’s our compo”

  35. 35
    My Opinion says:

    Who elected Toby?

  36. 36
    Living in 97.223% white Merseyside says:

    Did anyone see the lady from SF representing Twitter on C4 News and Newsnight. Both Guru and Gavin treated her like sh*t. I could see she was quite shocked not the be even given the courtesy of a “good evening” or “thanks for being with us”.

    If she thinks we Brits are an ignorant lot then she’s quite right.

  37. 37
    but says:

    I’d rather read the Sun than the Guardian.

  38. 38
    The Blind Are Sometimes Thick As Well says:

    Are you Blind Pugh?

    It clearly says in the text what their line on immigration is.

  39. 39
    Sun Blocker says:

    Warning: Too much sun is bad for your health.

  40. 40
    C4 news says:

    Whatever

  41. 41
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Me like.

    Presumably with the Damnbusters theme playing in the background.

  42. 42
    Ketts Fracking Rebellion says:

    Yep his highness Murdo Cobba hath spaketh don’t do as I do…do as yer told and, you might last the day!

  43. 43
    Bob Diamond Geezer says:

    So it comes down to this the whole of the Guido blog was really just a ruse to get a job with the Sun. Sad really.

  44. 44
    Ketts Fracking Rebellion says:

    Join the limp dumps they master in irrelevant you should slot right in Ed…

  45. 45
    And the other face of Britain that Labour imported and we must throw out says:

  46. 46
    Hang The Bostards says:

    I would vote for them if they wanted to run this country

  47. 47
    High Street says:

    Nothing wrong with taking the opportunities which life presents. The blatant arse kissing, though, is taudry.

  48. 48
    British says:

    Get a job.

  49. 49
    Hopeful says:

    Will it be the Sun what does it for Garage?

  50. 50
    R Sole says:

    So why don’t we start Fracking in Surrey where the ponderously useless Lord Howell –father -in-Law to the ponderously gormless shit George Osborne lives..Eh!!

    Plainly the back-hander accepting old fool has never ever visited any parts between The Humber and Hadrian’s Wall.

    Any part that is desolate you old drip is because the Shrieking Harridan Thatcher milked it dry last century and put thousands on their uppers so that jobs went overseas and her banker friends loaded themselves to the gunnels with Gin & Whores.!!

    How dare he even stand up and say such a thing.??

    Surrey–especially Woking –is riddled with sons of the desert and questionable eastern Europeans. Why not start fracking there you silly old rancid rectal swab??

    Is it any wonder Tories have feck all seats north of Birmingham??

    Any one who votes for any of the 3 “Major Parties” is plainly puddled, and anyone who votes Tory is a closet racist still stained with the curse of Empire-Building—and we all know how that went??

    May a thousand flesh-eating molluscs infest the old bastards nethers.

    I want to hear his year-long screams as he dies slowly far beyond the reach of any pain-killers.

    For Verily, He and his kinfolk are the shytes of the last century who unbelievably are still alive today.

    Racists, blinkered, upper class chinless wonders eternally seeking to find ways to deprive their fellow man.

    I piss in their soup.

  51. 51
    Benny Fitz-Clements says:

    Why get a job ???

  52. 52
    Ketts Fracking Rebellion says:

    They also have a habit of knitting their brows while staring oft into the heavens as if contemplating a profound thought this normally just before spouting the bleeding obvious or something they heard on the BBC.

  53. 53
    Reality Check says:

    It’s not a very realistic picture is it. The bloody place is now covered in widmills, solar panels, mosques and “business parks” aka retail sheds.

  54. 54
    average joanna says:

    Enjoyed the debate between Alex Deane and Kathy Lette re.Twitter abuse.
    Lette claimed to speak for all women.
    She certainly doesn’t speak for me.

  55. 55
    Anonymous says:

    Pass the sickbag.

    I await the SOCA bomb to be dropped on this blog.

    Still timing is everything and there is still a bit to go until certain court cases begin.

  56. 56
    Ketts Fracking Rebellion says:

    “We” “our” “us” the refuge of the weak argument.

  57. 57
    Bin Effiz Khalidmen says:

    Why ?

  58. 58
    The Fifty Seventh Earl of Perineum says:

    Hello!

    Anyone still alive at the ranch 30 minutes onwards?

  59. 59
    Anonymous says:

    Demeaning really. Alcohol really does impair judgement.

  60. 60
    confused says:

    What’s South West Trains got to do with invisible magic sky pixies?

  61. 61
    No Change there then says:

    The new editor is something of a lightweight. EU sceptic, but… pro migrants, but…. He fails to understand that the EU controls both our borders regarding EU nationals and who we can and can’t remove.

    Until we re-claim our independence, we can control neither.

    “Europe

    We have long been Eurosceptic and we will hold David Cameron, if he’s re-elected, to the referendum he has promised.

    But it is not a given The Sun would want out.

    If Cameron pulls off the radical reforms he speaks of — and that’s a big “if” — we might get the best of both worlds.

    That means the flexibility of being in Europe, without the endless meddling and edicts from blood-suckers in Brussels.
    Immigration

    Border control

    The Sun has been accused of being anti-immigration. Rubbish.

    We believe in migrants who come here for the right reasons. To graft, pay their way and enrich the country culturally and economically.

    We have no time for those who turn up here to pocket a better handout than they’d get back home.

    And we detest extremism, be it the racist thugs of the English Defence League or the Islamic fascists who want to destroy our freedoms.”

    Oh yeah, he’s also as thick as a breeze block and imagines ls1@m is a ‘race’.

  62. 62
    average joanna says:

    I find the threat to force women out of education and work,make them cover up, mutilate their genitalia and arrange their marriages very upsetting.
    Far more upsetting than a spotty teenage troll on Twitter.

  63. 63
    Anonymous says:

    Your spelling is waful – it’s “ruin”.

  64. 64
    George Robertson says:

    Lets hope the hero of the hacking scandal,Tom Watson spills the beans in parliament.He will wont he?

  65. 65
    well says:

    Actually they’ve been testing in Surrey for some time.

  66. 66
    Added realism says:

    And it should show van-loads of East Europeans steeling the lead from church roofs.

  67. 67
    Fictional v Real and Labour go for the Fiction says:

    Exactly but Stella is not going to upset the moslems who vote for her.

  68. 68
    It's All Fatcher's Fault says:

    Yeah!! It’s all Fatcher’s fault.

    Learn a new song you backward foolf.

  69. 69
    No News in the World says:

    A newspaper that makes itself the news is like wanking into page 3.

  70. 70
    The Fifty Seventh Earl of Perineum says:

    Has anyone noticed that all the people under the picture entitled Our Readers have tits?

    I don’t want to read this publication so much as to meet its readers…

  71. 71
    Ed Milliband says:

    What a nasty vision.

    I want a Britain where Labour knows what is best for you and Ed Balls is in charge of spending your money.

  72. 72
    The Sun also says:

    If police won’t name lawyers and bankers in hacking scandal then MPs should

    Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/5037488/Tory-Rob-Wilson-says-that-MPS-should-name-hacking-clients.html#ixzz2ac04cPZT

    OR GUIDO

  73. 73
    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    Quite. But you don’t hear many white British middle-class feminists (you know, the ‘trendy’ ones that are always bleating in the left-wing rags and on Twitter) making a fuss about that, do you?

  74. 74
    Ah! Monika says:

    OR Mrs. Wilson

  75. 75
    Whistle Blower says:

    Have been trying to phone this mob for over an hour over something. Have now gone to Private Eye instead. It is faster.

  76. 76
    Old Bling Pugh says:

    Shouldn’t that be, “…we back politicians when they do what is best for our readers Us (The Murdoch Empire) and Our friends and criticise them when they don’t…”

  77. 77
    Old Bling Pugh says:

    Use a high number blocker Sun screen

  78. 78
    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Guido isn’t paid by the Guardian.

  79. 79
    Your Lord Howell says:

    Oops I meant 97.223% white Merseyside

  80. 80
    Old Bling Pugh says:

    They do now (or think they do)

  81. 81
    Old Bling Pugh says:

    Which one the Guido the Elder or Guido the Younger

  82. 82
    Ah! Monika says:

    I do, because like it or not, the Sun influences swing voters more than any other MSM.

  83. 83
    Ah! Monika says:

    She more than held her own. Impressive.

  84. 84
    The Duke of Plaza Toro says:

    tawdry

  85. 85
    Middle class, university educated, out lesbian feminist says:

    Ban lads mags, they are destroying womens freedoms!

  86. 86
    Ah! Monika says:

    I’ve got an idea. Let’s frack where there is an abundance of gas.
    Under Parliament.

  87. 87
    Forest Road says:

    True. The pathetic thing about her is that she is fully aware how nasty the muslims whose approval and votes she courts actually are.

    She has gone to great lengths to hide her links with the Friends of Israel.

  88. 88
    Asleep the Younger says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

  89. 89
    Gawd Help Us says:

    All pointless anyway, it all belongs to Barroso and Van Rompuy now to do what they like with all aided and abetted by our Lib/Lab/Con puppets.

  90. 90
    Slow on the uptake says:

    Say again??

  91. 91
    A reader says:

    I agree

  92. 92
    LBW says:

    The Eastern EUro’s even put the local pikeys to shame in the thieving stakes.

    They not only stole the lead off the roof at a local cricket club. They stripped out all the copper piping from the kitchen and showers and all the copper wiring too.

    Still, I hear their quote for the repair work, was quite reasonable.

  93. 93
    No such thing as society says:

    Murdochs arm has grown so long by being able to reach around to wank off the try party as reward for licking his arsehole.

  94. 94
    Anonymous says:

    If the Sun influences anyone I suggest they go back to school and start using their brain cell. Sun says vote Monster raving Loonie and you think people will? Its a comic run by a millionaire who avoids full tax and ran a paper that hacked peoples telephones. Its opinions are worse than Farage. If it sounds bigoted they say it and the numpties follow like sheep. Generalisations and populace views are what makes this country so poor in intellect. If the readers had to think about the issues rather than be able to read the big type headlines, we would be a much better and caring country. Sun is Thatchers baby. Take, take, take and everyone for themselves.

  95. 95
    No such thing as society says:

    Just like turkeys who vote for Christmas.

  96. 96
    who buys what says:

    Murdoch buys Guido
    Guido buys McDonalds, Guardian Coffee and charity shop clothes
    Jon Snow gives Guido his dirties

    Guido Fawkes needs a make over

  97. 97
    Maqboul says:

    You are either a product of New Labour’s Utopian education system or a dyslectic pooftah.

  98. 98
    Airey Belvoir says:

    The Sun is probably also keen on motherhood and apple pie. This is shallow simplistic trite nonsense.

  99. 99
    Yeah, right... says:

    Ms Reid is best enjoyed with the sound off.

  100. 100
    Maqboul says:

    Precisely.

  101. 101
    Maqboul says:

    How do you know all about the content of The Sun unless you read it?

  102. 102
    Airey Belvoir says:

    Lefties have spent thirty years complaining that we stopped extracting fossil fuel in the North-East, and now they are complaining that we are starting again.

  103. 103
    Maqboul says:

    Al ham da gorillaz brother Amstell Choudary.

  104. 104
    Airey Belvoir says:

    Net immigration: A British doctor, his wife and two children leave to work in Australia. A south Asian peasant, his wife and children arrive and need housing and benefits. Result: zero net immigration, hooray!

  105. 105
    Maqboul says:

    It was Benn who clobbered the North-east.

  106. 106
    Maggot Malone says:

    Eh, no picture of the Liver buildings. Have they got something against Liverpool or what?

  107. 107
    Mid Staffordshire Hospital - working for a more diverse Britain says:

    We have ways of dealing with people like you.

  108. 108
    Maqboul says:

    *yawns* yet another privately educated socialist employed at the Beeb.

  109. 109
    Maqboul says:

    Self righteous lefty prick oozing “justified” hatred.

  110. 110
    Cardinal Biggles says:

    That’s ‘Lord Stansgate’ to you, you dreadful, little oik!

  111. 111
    JH394823942309 says:

    Hey, Anjem. Who kills more Muslims than anyone else?

    That’s right. Other Muslims. This ongoing hoo-ha in the middle east is little more than a nascent civil war between Shii’ts and Sunni delights. It that ‘OK’ with you, you never seem to mention it?

    That little detail seems to constantly escape you. Just like there is no fuss in the media when a black youth kills a black youth, in stark contrast with Saint Steven.

  112. 112
    S.W.A.T says:

    Just noticed that the Islamic for Allah looks like the Loch Ness monster, makes sense.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah

  113. 113
    Nigel's Red Barrel says:

    Yes you are right, it’s all Fatcher’s fault. People who don’t read the Sun are so much more clever, like the population of Liverpool for example.

  114. 114
    Lord Northcliffe of Bendover says:

    written for office boys by office boys

  115. 115
    Back1woodsman says:

    Yeah, but its equal opportunity genocide isn’t it – our lefties can chose a side without bothering about boring technicalities.

  116. 116
    Lord Northcliffe of Bendover says:

    Shame that his cock has shrivelled up.

    Ask Wendi.

  117. 117
    Lord Northcliffe of Bendover says:

    Never trust a girl who prefers taking it up the arse.

  118. 118
    Lord Northcliffe of Bendover says:

    And her mouth full

  119. 119
    Fishy says:

    ….And the woman from Sky (who I thought was a brilliant presenter) was almost ranting at her, red faced. It left me feeling quite uncomfortable.

    Not withstanding the criminal threats that Stella Creasy has endured – all of which should be prosecuted if found to be so – I’m alarmed that she is now using these for her own sinister political purposes.

    She want’s Twitter to include an ‘anti-harassment’ clause in their T&Cs, saying there is a legal definition. If it is the one that Labour introduced in their equality legislation, basically that says that anyone who feels that they are harassed, have been.

    What a wonderful way for people like Harman, Abbott and all the other Labour hypocrites to avoid scrutiny and censure.

  120. 120
    Lord Northcliffe of Bendover says:

    depends whose arse it is and if they wipe it first.

  121. 121
    Fishy says:

    No, I noticed that. Nor were there any NHS patients dying in the hospital beds in Stafford.

  122. 122
    No such thing as society says:

    My excuse is auto correct which you didn’t appear to use when trying to type dyslexic.

  123. 123
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    Yes, waful. Absolutely wayful.

  124. 124
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Ecoloons says:

    No wonder the scousers are terrified of the gypos, there’ll be nothing left for them to nick. LOL

  125. 125
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    I love gramer naziis!

    And speling nazys!

  126. 126
    Mae West says:

    “I use to be Snow White – but I drifted.”

  127. 127
    jackie treehorn says:

    Lets not forget that the Sun helped Tony and the new Labour project that changed this country forever, and not for the good. It’s a bit late now rallying around the flag.

  128. 128
    Common Sense says:

    He should pi$$ of back to Shepherds Bush with his free school.

    An interminably dull man.

    She wasn’t much better, for a bird that is.

  129. 129
    tosh says:

    As if guy fawkes would get a job at the Sun.

  130. 130
    Common Sense says:

    Apart from the BBC, no one reads the Guardian.

  131. 131
    Simon B says:

    Indeed. And if you can’t afford health care, tough, just like in America. It’s not my job to pay for your care. Supporting yourself through paying for your own needs will help weed out life’s losers.

  132. 132
    Common Sense says:

    Yeah…. vote LibDem.

  133. 133
    but says:

    Other media organisations also hacked phones.
    But the left-wing Leveson stitch up chose to basically
    ignore that.

  134. 134
    Common Sense says:

    Unless you earn more than £39k pa, you are a burden and net recieptant of funds from the Government.

    How many immigrants earn over £39k pa ?

    500,000 a year of them ?
    or more like 10,000 a year of them ?

    We need Austrialian style immigration rules and points system, you pay for your own healthcare with private insurance, no £40k job or insurance, no visa. To do that we have to leave the EU.

    The three cheeks of the LibLabCon will never take us out of the EU.

  135. 135
    Common Sense says:

    Report showing 39k pa wage is required to be a net contributor.

    http://www.cps.org.uk/publications/reports/the-progressivity-of-uk-taxes-and-transfers/

  136. 136
    so there says:

    Several members of my family live and work abroad,after having
    paid into the British system for years.
    But they all own their own properties and support themselves in
    their respective countries,rather than drain resources.

  137. 137
    Common Sense says:

    Vote LibDem

  138. 138
    Zeightgeist says:

    …The ladies seem to be turning the clock back 40yrs. No to page 3. No to lads mags.Shortlists for ladies,entry to men only clubs and top jobs in the NHS,that went well!!!At least with equality you ladies will be able to marry a gay man????

  139. 139
    Village Idiot says:

    I stopped watching newsnight about 5yrs ago…Can’t take the smug bias

  140. 140
    Village Idiot says:

    ….The staffs event would not have happened if we had not gone down the path the educated elite saw fit to lead us down and many other problems in our society would not have occurred!!

  141. 141
    Pick litter for bennies says:

    English abroad tend not to chop peoples heads off,groom local children or run pick pocket/ATM gangs.

  142. 142
    Village Idiot says:

    …Are Guru and Gavin true English Gentlemen or something else???

  143. 143
    Village Idiot says:

    ….I reckon you are of non English descent,are you baroness Lawrence?

  144. 144
    No News in the World says:

    “Advertisement”

  145. 145
    No News in the World says:

    Quote of the Day:
    “All things in moderation.” – Aristotle

  146. 146
    Curly says:

    Please do not confuse ‘educated’ with ‘intelligent’.

  147. 147
    Brian says:

    Only following instructions, Guv.

  148. 148
    Brian says:

    Yes, I saw that too. That presenter bird was nearly busting a blood vessel. Congrats to the Twitter lass who remained calm and quite impressive in the face of such a disgusting (and probably scripted) questioner.

  149. 149
    Brian says:

    There is more lingerie on display in most women’s mags than in all the lads’ mags put together…. and as far as I know, there is no male equivalent of Cosmopolitan.

  150. 150
    Brian says:

    They subscribe to the Inshallah School of Train Travel

  151. 151
    Way down upon de Swannee ribber says:

    The Baroness Lawrence!!!

    Well, fornicate with my ancient footwear.

    Have the Liebourites been out in the sunshine too long?

  152. 152
    Not an unpaid slave or scapegoat for the leeching media. says:

    Broken Britain. Lost its sense of fair play.

  153. 153
    geordieboy says:

    Too many tits in the Sun run my too many TWATS

  154. 154
    bit gay this says:

    the new editor appears to be a fucking idiot.

    what is this crap? some shite Olivia Newton Dunns kids did on ‘take your kid to work day’?

    its like a 5 year old was let lose on photoshop. well done for putting john terry on there as well, the horrible shit.

  155. 155
    Anonymous says:

    Interesting the sun thinks the Ulster Scots are on top

  156. 156
    jax says:

    Lmao this croques guy is either guido or a murdoch press intern

  157. 157
    Troo Thurtz says:

    Nice white Christian Brits go and live somewhere else and are replaced by stoneage Moslems into wife-beating, clit cutting and shooting girls in the head for going to school.

    It’s not just about numbers.

    Infidel.


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