July 15th, 2013

Byrne’s Giant U-Turn

Liam Byrne’s membership of the reality based community upsets lefty types on the best of days, but today they are particularly vocal over his new line of attack. Here’s what Byrne said about the welfare cap to Progress in January 2012:

“…where they go wrong is their politics is divisive and it sets one person against another and you see that, my goodness, running right the way through the Welfare Reform Bill that we get in the House of Commons tomorrow… they are about setting against one neighbour against another, sowing the policies, sowing the politics of division, sowing the problem of ‘the other’ and actually we have to be the party that governs for everyone and that is particularly important at a time when the electorate and the electoral coalitions are in a state of flux”

Now Baldemort has attacked the government for not going far enough with that very same cap. The New Statesman are having such a hissy-fit about it that they label Byrne “morally dubious”. Dubious, perhaps, but only in terms of credibility.


30 Comments

  1. 1
    Edbanger Milired says:

    His conversion is a bit late because as he told us “the monies all gone”!

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  2. 2

    They are all creeps.

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    • 5

      Byrne knows that this is only stage 1.
      Either governments will lower the cap further of if they aren’t forced to they will do a Brown and leave the cap where it is for 10 years, inflating the unrealistically high cap lower.
      Once that happens he can claim ‘they are responding to my ideas.’

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      • 7

        And that, Bill, appears to be the level at which politics is conducted now. It is a virtual reality game where the position of play is as about as relevant to real peoples’ lives as those who amass a great number of World of Warcraft kills.

        Well we know these people’s Real ID.

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      • 8
        Casual Observer says:

        The only problem with the cap is that if cost of living continues to inflate – particularly housing in response to Osborne’s planned Ponzi (cannot think of any other way to describe it) scheme – then such a cap and future lowering will likely be a direct cause of an increase in crime.

        Don’t mis-read this as a whinge from a lefty mong, but rather a serious question as to whether anything can be inferred about medium term UK economic performance. Capping benefits with potential future lowering does not suggest a positive future outlook for tax receipts. If this is not designed to harm society then perhaps cost of living is expected to come down – primarily through housing market returning to reality.

        One hopes that the capital which is freed up through this policy will be allocated in a more enlightened way. The system went completely out of control under the previous Labour governments, and people at large I do not think understand this fully.

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        • 19
          Tescos says:

          But most of those bennies are spent in our stores. This will mean short-term profits go down. That won’t do shareholder value much good and that will jepardise executive jobs!

          Dgital Dave!…let a few more immigrants in will you…there’s a good lad. that should help make up the difference. Oh, btw, we’ll look after you when you’re thrown out on your ear after the next GE. We look after our loyal front-men.

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        • 20

          The imbalance between government revenue and expenditure has been so massively out of control for so long that I do not actually see a way back that does not involve prolonged misery. Our tiny island has been exploding in an uncontrolled way for ages in the manner that a forest fire might spread in a dry summer. To continue the metaphor, Labour poured as much petrol on as it could find. We discuss the cap but all of us know it is a fart in the face of thunder in dealing with the financial problem, to mix the metaphors a bit. :-)

          The one good thing is it demonstrates some sort of purpose, something that being in coalition has done little to assist. But the road back to anything remotely resembling good housekeeping is much longer than any of us here will live long enough to travel the length of.

          Sorry to be so cheerful.

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  3. 3
    Len McCluskey, Lefty Len to my friends says:

    If it’s not sanctioned by me, then it’s not labour policy.

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  4. 4
    bing bong says:

    Bob Crow isn’t a Communist he is a greedy fat bastard who would eat all the breast pieces in a KFC family bucket, in fact Fat Bob would eat the whole bucket.

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  5. 6
    The secret diary of Owen Jones age 13 3/4 says:

    This cap is the worst cap ever..

    Except for the one that I am forced against my will to wear at my posh school!
    Mummy says it makes me look darling! What she doesn’t know is i have sown a piece of Khmer Rouge red cloth inside. Power to the people’s!

    Good thing about all this summer heat is that for a change I’m not the only one in short trousers.

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  6. 10
    Greenpiss says:

    I would have thought the eco loon wing of the left would at least understand the meaning of finite recourses.

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    • 21
      Friends of the Earth says:

      Tax resources are infinite if you just take from your grand children’s, grand children’s generation. So what if they have 106% taxation? They would probably fossil users so fuck ‘em.

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  7. 12
    Ed Balls says:

    I used to hate wearing a cap to school. It marked one out as a posh kid, with the local oiks.

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  8. 13
    The Long View says:

    When history is written, one of the big questions will discussed is this:

    Why did the UK attempt to build an unsustainable socialist paradise and accumulate massive levels of private and public debt in the final years of North Sea Oil production, and make no attempt to set up a sovereign wealth fund and develop a proper export economy to maintain standard of living after the Oil ran out ?

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    • 22
      The Norwegians says:

      Hahahah..ach funny it is!
      And we told you not to join the EU, just be a trading partner.

      I wonder if these things have anything with us being consistently rated 1st or 2nd in the world for standards of living and happiness and wealth whilst you are…what is it now?
      20th?
      29th?

      Hahah ..have a Christmas tree.

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  9. 25
    Labour Voting Dogshite in Edinburgh says:

    Yeah and Labour are never divisive. They are full of their own shit. Leeching useless waste of space morons with their grubby handout.

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  10. 27
    Standing in a C&A bag in the public lavatory says:

    Go home, Chris.

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  11. 29
    Call me Dave says:

    No caps for my fellow MPs or their friendly bank managers

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  12. 30
    The Rt Hon. The Hon. Comrade Loretto Fettes MP (Rottenborough East) Labour/Bad-Bank says:

    “sowing the politics of division”

    Oh I say Liam that really is awfully well done! Proposing a course of action that if done by the Tories is evil but if done by us is saintly! Absolute genius!

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