July 5th, 2013

UKIP on 22% in Survation Poll

One point behind the Tories. Interesting to see how today’s vote affects that…


  1. 1
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Ah, smug mode.

  2. 2
    Incapable Vince, deputy Chief Cockroach says:


  3. 3
    Anonymous says:

    Today’s vote will have no effect.

  4. 4
    Kebab Time says:

    And with that they still wont be able to form the protectionist dictatorship they desire.

  5. 5
    Anonymous says:

    Before 2015 or bye-bye Dave&Co.

  6. 6
    Vote L/L/C for (as yet undeclared) expenses says:

    Today’s vote will encourage UKIP support from all parties, especially those concerned about EU waste, EU budget and EU immigration. Look at the model Labour Q&A responses in the last post, page 14.

    “it’s why One Nation Labour is focussed on addressing issues that make a real difference to people’s lives – from immigration to energy bills.”

    And just compare their record.

  7. 7
    Vote L/L/C for (as yet undeclared) expenses says:

    And hello Nigel and others in quite a few target seats….

  8. 8
    BBC Spokesman says:

    Nothing to see here

  9. 9
    Code Red: Loon Alert! says:


  10. 10
    Ed Moribund says:

    Its all going a bit Gordon Mong.

  11. 11
    fruitcake says:

    Correct, the only vote that will matter is the one for In or Out of the EU, given to the British public.

  12. 12

    UKIP keep ticking the party of protest card. God help us if they ever start thinking they have a serious chance of getting into power.

  13. 13
    The Prime Mincer. says:

    Don’t panic,don’t panic! The gay vote is holding up and when they get gay marriage allowance tax break thingy they will be even Gayer Happier. :-)

  14. 14
    I thought this site was about free speech says:

    strip out public sector workers and those on benefits and the UKIP vote will be nearer 75%

  15. 15
    Kebab Time says:

    UKIP against free market and free movement of labour, thats protectionist, they want to dictate what you are allowed to wear (Burka ban) , you didnt think they were libertarian did you?

  16. 16
    CCHQ says:

    Look, these swivel eyed loons are just closet ra………..oh shit.

  17. 17

    It’ll be Andy Murray all over…

  18. 18
    M102 says:

    I don’t care what they are. Their policies are what we need. I lost my old job due to cheaper immigrant labour where as you have probaby never had a job. You certainly spend enough time w@nking off on here…..

  19. 19
    Bercow the bellend says:

    And banning the burka would be a bad thing because?…..

  20. 20
    Stev says:

    Watching the sham referendum bill. Cuaght a fleeting snapshot of Camoron, and the look contemt on his face was obvious and palpable.

  21. 21
    Chris Bryant says:

    You do realise that with Tom gone I’m the chief consigliere.

  22. 22
    me and my dog says:

    Biggest surprise is that FibDums are getting 10%. Is there really that many twats around.

  23. 23
    I thought this site was about free speech says:

    yes, God help indeed every sponging immigrant, undeserving benefit receiver, quango ‘employee’, lobbyist, failed Eurozone and any other ship B material

  24. 24
    lojolondon says:

    Interesting how Yougov polls consistently deliver lower percentages than other polls for EU-sceptic parties…. Wonder if ‘Big Cathy’ has an influence?

  25. 25
    The Buddha of Brewers Green says:

    It’th ok, Len ith my weal big fwend. We will kith and make up and all the nathty non-thothialith will be thent to the new Isle of Wight penal colony for re-education for the one nathion project.

    That’th all folkth

  26. 26
    D Baird says:

    Rise of the UKIP Fascist Nesta OMG plus the Tory Taliban

  27. 27
    lojolondon says:

    Hear hear.

  28. 28
    me and my dog says:

    all the women are naked underneath

  29. 29
    Len McCluskey says:

    Smoke your own pipe.

  30. 30
    lojolondon says:

    Pesky plebs – wanting politicians to do things for the good of British people instead of for the good of their own careers….

  31. 31
    peed off says:

    Meanwhile Dave is out celebrating the construction of a wind subsidy farm.

    The conservatives, killing OAPs and destroying industry.

  32. 32
    Living in 97.2% white Merseyside says:

    Don’t they all wear Prada?

  33. 33
    Dr Rajgneroch Harkvgraard says:

    I saw a burkha clad woman eating some cake at a farm shop cafe recently. I wondered how she’d do it. For each mouthful she lifted up the corner of the cloth. I saw about a square inch of cheek – THE F~CKING WHORE

  34. 34
    Bazinga! says:

    But Camong still thinks the BBC will love him.

  35. 35
    Kebab Time says:

    You cant compete with an immigrant for a job? Thats your problem.

  36. 36
    Albert says:

    Who are these people voting for Unite?

  37. 37
    nmj says:

    Afraid so.

  38. 38
    Kebab Time says:

    So you want the state to start dictating what everyone can and cant wear? any power the sate has it will abuse.

  39. 39
    Code Red: Loon Alert! says:

    Clearly you haven’t got a clue, so any exchange with you is worthless.

    As for the Burka ban, it would actually liberate women forced to wear them by their owners, musIim men.

    FYI, a woman is considered at all times, to be owned by either their father or husband and they have exclusive say in how women can dress and live their lives.

    Of course such details are lost on a ‘libertarian’ such as yourself.

  40. 40
    Anonymous says:

    Pickles has lost the plot again.


    Council meetings are attended by the non-elected. There are locals that speak, and local businesses that have to have a chance to back their idea. There are also many officers of the council that advise the councillors.

    To be accountable, is to have the freedom to speak without being ridiculed in social media afterwards. The concept of filming in this case was to bully and ridicule.

    The wording of the 1960 act was quite good:

    “but nothing in this section shall require a body to permit the taking of photographs of any proceedings, or the use of any means to enable persons not present to see or hear any proceedings (whether at the time or later), or the making of any oral report on any proceedings as they take place.”

    So please apologise for your attack on local democracy and localism. These meetings are for locals.

  41. 41
    Duty Pedant says:

    ARE there that many….

    Standards, dear boy, standards.

  42. 42
    William Vague says:

    I wonder if the Syrian Jihadist irregulars have any jobs going?

  43. 43
    peed off says:

    Give Scotland independence and send all the Ship B mongs up there.

    They can all have well styled hair having filled in 17 forms for 23 quangos to get their beautician appointment.

    Mind you their tans will be patchy as the sunbeds will be powered by wind subsidy farms.

  44. 44
    Hugh Janus says:

    “…..and they have exclusive say in how women can dress and live their lives.”

    Mrs J is no stranger to this concept. From whence cometh my liberation, eh??

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    History Buff says:

    If a date were ever announced it would be necessary to factor in the deluge of 24/7 pro-EU propaganda that would descend upon the electorate in all newspapers and on all TV channels. The official and only widely disseminated big lie would be that leaving will be the road to destitution and chaos. Liblabcon has no intention of accepting a rejection of the EU. I still doubt any opportunity to vote on this matter will ever materialise..

  46. 46
    Trollhunter twat says:

    Of course Labour and the coalition of fabian clowns, imagine windmills are the future and the most important issues in the entire world, are spying on it’s own citizens, gay marriage and forcing millions into fuel poverty using green taxes and subsidies.

  47. 47
    The EU has failed says:

    The Labour party is just a protest vote.

  48. 48
    How much????? says:

    Ah yes the Thames Array Windfarm, where each and every job created is subsidised at, wait for it, £1,770,000 each year, for as long as the project is in operation.

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    lojolondon says:

    PS, the media believes that UKIP takes votes off Conservatives – hence the sudden availability of spaces for Nigel Farage on Question Time, for example.

    But for ‘British workers’ (as opposed to a ‘benefits claimant based in Britian’) – UKIP has a really good message that resonates strongly with us, so Labour is going to bleed support there too, mark my words.

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    not above says:

    and 9% for others who?

    and every other person for none of them.

    Can we have a vote for a re-election if none of the above candidates are suitable.

  51. 51
    The EU has failed says:

    Voting Labour is just a protest vote.

  52. 52
    Back to the Future in 2045 says:

    I remember when I was a lad there used to be a thing called the Conservative party made up of toffs & estate agents. And there was another one controlled by Communists & old duffers in unions. Ah yes they were called Labour, they weren’t much good though, mostly millionaires and pork pie stuffers.

    Anyway here in 2045 it’s so wonderful to be independent of the European leeches that all went broke in 2015. We are now trading profitably with the rest of the world and there is no unemployment. Our new prime Minister Nigel Farage junior is a great bloke and his son will soon take over from him, apparently.
    Toodle pip.

    p.s. King Billy now has 11 children.

  53. 53
    Steve says:

    Praying the relationship between Unite and Labour deteriorates further, and Unite pull funding, which would mean the end of Labour, and that would remove one of the greatest obstacles to democracy in this country at a stroke.

  54. 54
    Jimmy says:

    You right wingers are so stupid, if we leave the EU the Germans will not sell you any more posh-boy Mercedes or Porches.

  55. 55
    albacore says:

    Their tacky record is so twisted and cracked
    It plays like whatever they try to enact
    In tune with the rest of the LibLabCon choir
    It harmonises us deeper in the mire

  56. 56
    Chris Bryant says:

    Labour is the party of benefits recipients, immigrants and the public sector.

    The UNITE Parliamentary party only needs to promise –

    1. restoration of final salary pensions to all PS workers
    2. An increase in tax credits
    3. An amnesty for illegal immigrants

    We would win 38% of the vote, which is enough to form a government.
    First law enacted is emergency powers to deal with civil unrest {the unrest we cause ourselves.}
    2nd is suspension of Parliament. Parliament is unrepresentative of the people. A politburo would be much better. With party block votes.
    3rd law – Abolition of opposition parties as terrorists. Members of outlawed political parties to the gulags.

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    Anonymous says:

    1972 act:

    “Nothing in this section shall require a principal council to permit the taking of photographs of any proceedings, or the use of any means to enable persons not present to see or hear any proceedings (whether at the time or later), or the making of any oral report on any proceedings as they take place.”

  58. 58
    Steve says:

    Well i have to admit that i am not fully conversent with the way trade, trade deficits etc work, but even from a laymans point of view, i suspect you are wrong.

  59. 59
    Joss Ayinglike says:

    There’s a lot of protests going on out there.

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    Anonymous says:

    The French are ahead of the curve on the burka question.

  61. 61
    Oh dear says:

    As we are their largest EU customer, I expect they would manage to sell us their cars.
    They manage to trade quite well with Non-EU China/USA and there are more Mercedes in non-EU Moscow than in Berlin.

  62. 62
    Germanicus says:

    You’re already dictated in what you can wear, if you wore anything with a remotely discriminatory slogan or symbol you could be arrested and charged with inciting religious or racial hatred.

  63. 63
    nellnewman says:


    I see ipsa is saying we have to give mp’s a rise or there’ll be another expenses scandal as they start stealing money from the taxpayer again!!

  64. 64
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  65. 65
    Maq­boul says:

    Not to mention killing rare swifts and other protected species of flying fauna.

  66. 66
    Steve says:

    If you were a lefty i would accept this as a probable scenario, but i suspect your not and that comment was very tongue in cheek.

  67. 67
    Point of Information says:

    The autos manufactured out in Ch!na are getting good now.

    Without the EU in the way the UK could decide to import, or even invite the Ch!nese to set up a production plant here. More jobs, cheaper and better cars.

  68. 68
    Anonymous says:

    I dont know where the people saying they will vote ukip are, as i have never heard anybody say that except on message boards .I certainly dont think they are 1 point behind the Conservative party!

  69. 69
    Steve says:


  70. 70
    Bazinga! says:

    Fartrarge got a right kicking off the BBC radio 5 earlier.

  71. 71
    Anonymous says:

    They will be reminded of tuition fees, referendum renegue, Rennard cover-up, Huhne and Hancock at election time. There’s enough in that lot to run a windfarm (another total fcuk-up)

  72. 72
    Maq­boul says:

    I think the UKIP would like us to opt out of the EU cartel and trade with the world on an equal basis without the stranglehold of EU red tape and associated oncosts. Hardly protectionist.

  73. 73
    Point of Information says:

    Certainly is appearing to be more a fraudulent postal vote.

  74. 74
    Anonymous says:

    Im not surprised you lost your job with your attitude, you are disgusting.I bet they were all glad to se the back of you.

  75. 75
    Radio 5 Skive says:

    Vote Unite.

  76. 76
    Anonymous says:

    I wish we could force nigel to wear a burka, his smug face is a red rag to me !

  77. 77
    IKIP says:

    Ergo, nothing to report here….

  78. 78
    Anonymous says:

    who are these people voting for ukip ?

  79. 79
    Anon says:

    Agreed, the working classes will increasingly find resonance with UKIP and their values and ethics.

    Labour simply doesn’t represent their values any more and the Tories are too rich to care with their pro big business tax evasion policies.

    The working man can see Labour undermines him and the Tories dismiss him.

    When the working man and Labour voter wakes up and smells the McDonalds coffee and realises his wages and his childrens job prospects in blue collar work have been destroyed by massive uncontrolled unskilled legal and illegal immigration, then he will also vote UKIP.

    Especially when they see how badly all 3 parties have treated them, their grandparents unable to afford their social housing because its got a spare bedroom and with the NHS perferring to kill them in Stafford rather then look after them and their energy bills doubling due to crazy windfarms and EU carbon taxes…

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    Maq­boul says:

    They want to do their dirty work in the shadows. If they are intimidated by having what they have done or said repeated then they have no place in local government: go work in a library or summat.

    Good on yer Pickles… make these corrupt fuckers visible and accountable.

  81. 81
    Rip van Wrinkle says:

    A kicking? From Victoria Derbyshire? Do f*ck off!

  82. 82
    Anonymous says:

    Tell us more, i didnt hear it.

  83. 83
    Anonymous says:

    Says the man from La La land with fingers in his ears

  84. 84
    UKIP, IKIP, we all KIP says:


  85. 85
    Germanicus says:

    Of course though, you can wear a t-shirt with a photo of Stalin, Chairman Mao or some other left wing genocidal maniac, that’s no problem.

  86. 86
    Maq­boul says:

    Any c­unt stupid enough to listen to Radio 5 would say that, wouldn’t they?

  87. 87
    Steve says:

    Spot on

  88. 88
    Anonymous says:

    2012 act:

    “(5) Without prejudice to any power of exclusion to suppress or prevent disorderly conduct or other misbehaviour at a meeting, the decision-making body is not to have the power to exclude members of the public from a meeting while it is open to the public. “

    So they are allowed to make decisions about the behaviour and activity of the public and there is no law to say they must allow filming. So with the above they had all the right to require people to stop filming.

    Since the guidance Pickles gave out would be impossible to police. Since he recognises the ability to restrict filming of certain people. How exactly would that be achieved if every member of the public had a camera? It is too long since Pickles attended a council meeting with 100 angry residence to understand the implications of his statement.

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    Anonymous says:

    That is an accurate prediciton.

    Unless we all vote UKIP at each and every opportunity.

  90. 90
    Actually says:

    97% of our trade with the EU is covered by WTO treaties and would remain unaffected if we left the corrupt club.

    The big lie of the combined LabLibCon, is we would lose millions of jobs if we left, we would not.

    Though of course, none in the MSM even dare mention that simple truth, or even question the lies dripping from the LabLibCon-men lips.

  91. 91
    Steve says:

    Take a look at wales, you will see postal vote fraud on an unimaginable scale. Up to 80% in some areas.

  92. 92
    A voter says:

    And with one bound he was free

  93. 93
    Anonymous says:

    If I was a Tory or Libdem MP, right now I would be planning my future after 2015. All of them now realise that the very best they can hope for is a decade or two in opposition if they are lucky, However a large swathe of them will become unemployed so over the next couple of years they need to do some serious sucking up to those who may see fit to employ them. Pontificating about what needs to be done in order to win in 2015 is pie in the sky. Gay marrige, the EU, Immigration, the bedroom tax and the economy have already destroyed any glimmer of a victory that may have existed. Its time to wake up and smell the coffee. Political defeat is stareing them in the face.The electorate will all be watching the major influx of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria collecting their family allowance, disability benefits, housing benefits, jobseekers allowances not to mention their free acess to the overloaded NHS and free education after contributing absolutly nothing. Meanwhile their family allowance and other benefits are cut and Granny is forced to sell her home to pay for care after a lifetimes contributions to the states coffers. You couldn’t make it up. Remember UKIP do not have to win a single seat to scupper the tories thanks to the bulls^^^ from Cameron
    Romania says British ministers have agreed secret deal to ensure migrants receive benefits despite coalition claims of a crackdown Read more:


    Was this change of heart forced on Cameron by UKIP, well yes it was see vidio

  94. 94
    Maq­boul says:

    Maybe it is the male members of their family dictating what they wear? I presume you agree that making forced marriages illegal is a good thing or is that a case of the state dictating who one should marry?

  95. 95
    Anon says:

    Boris Johnson said there should be an amnesty for all illegal immigrants.

    Vote conservative to destroy your country.


  96. 96
    Try getting a life says:

    We know, you come here endlessly spouting the same tedious shite, post after post, whenever Farage or UKIP are mentioned.

    It must really suck to be you.

  97. 97
    Maq­boul says:

    He has a point. I’d never seen a Porche, BMW or Merc in Britain until after 1973. Before that there were only Trabants which had arrived during Agent Gannex’s tenure in No 10.

  98. 98
    Ed's getting scared says:

    The Labour spin machine, in coordination with the beeb, is trying to paint Ed Miliband being at war with Len McCluskey. This is so predictable it’s not even funny. Cameron’s strategy on Wednesday has obviously scared Ed witless and he’s now frantically trying to paint himself as being independent and willing to stand up to the unions. What a load of bollocks. And helping him in this latest spin exercise is the bbc, with this headline on their news website:

    Union boss at war with Labour Party

  99. 99
    Anon says:

    The argument about losing trade if we left the EU is weak beyond belief.

    China trades perfectly well with the entire EU and it isnt a member of the EU.

    Less than 50% of our trade is with the EU and shrinking, not that leaving would effect it in any case.

  100. 100
    UKIP, IKIP, we all KIP says:

    The Irish police (Garda) refuses to allow Sikh members of the police reserves to wear their Sikh hats/turbans. As reservists are unpaid, the Sikhs could not challenge it under Employment law, because they are not remunerated, and so not ‘employed’.


  101. 101
    Nigel Farage doppelganger says:

    Don’t forget me and my dog, even the clinically insane are allowed to vote.

  102. 102
    Anonymous says:

    What dirt work? You can not think that any corruption happens during the meeting! I think you need to understand the role of pre-meetings (See Pickles advice).

    A local business man, that wants to expand their business, should have the ability to voice their case without having all the objectors to his ideas ridiculing on social media the next day.

    There are enough OAPs and journalists at every meeting to witness any corruption so the controls are there. Actions like this discourage small businesses from working in certain areas.

    What restrictions are there on photographing the audience? Could a large developer record the audience and use the information to identify the objectors? The audience needs definite protection otherwise the controls against corruption are totally lost.

  103. 103
    expat says:

    Point of order Jim.
    Believe the car is a Porsche.
    Porches are the entrance porticos to a house, or even the delightful little village just up the road here in Portugal.

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    FFS says:

    Um, there are hardly any white working people that vote Labour anymore!

    Having said that there are many working class people that would happily vote UKIP but would never vote Tory since the Tory brand is toxic to many working class people thanks to the campaign of mindless vilification over 60 years by Labour. UKIP has a clean sheet as far as many working class voters are concerned.

  105. 105
    FFS says:

    only required 30% of the vote for Heath to take the UK into the EU, but Cameron thinks it should take 50% of the vote to have a chance of taking it out with the Tories campaigning like hell to keep us in and offering no plan of what they would do other than sulk if we voted OUT????

    To hell with them. I’m voting UKIP until UKIP get us out of the EU. UKIP will only need 25% of a split vote to do that and they will have a credible plan for a new independent UK probably within EFTA in the aftermath.

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    2112 says:


  107. 107
    FFS says:

    You are ba 24 carat idiot.

    The EU is protectionist. Go and read something about the GATT talks on wikipedia you utter ignorant moron.

    The UK imports some 40% of its food and thanks to EU protectionism we can’t buy that food from developing countries at competitive prices but instead have to buy it at vastly inflated rates from EU countries having just subsidised the farmers of the EU to sell it to us! It’s a farce and its costing UK families £1000s every year.

  108. 108
    2112 says:

    Welcome back Jimmy. I notice that you were conspicuous by your absence on the recent threads relating to Tom Watson and Len McCluskey. no pithy comments regarding either of those two?

  109. 109
    FFS says:

    Sorry, don’t buy it. People should have the right to see who is talking at council meetings so they can say “Hey – saw that bloke down at the local Cons club last night and he was talking to these very self-same councillors over a pint and having a laugh! This is a stich up and they’re all in each other’s pockets!”.

    Fact is that privacy is needed most where the dealings are most shady. A small businessman is likely to be dealing with the public and should be glad of the publicity and not ashamed to show his face.

  110. 110
    FFS says:

    You’re right. I’d be stuck with a Jaguar F-type or some such trash.

    I think I can live with that though….

  111. 111
    FFS says:

    Let’s face it, it’s hard to imagine Ed in a “war” with anybody.

    “Ohh Grommit, Luvely day to take on’t unions isn’t it? Pass the Wensleydale grommit there’s a good chap”.

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    UKIP, IKIP, we all KIP says:

    You know what the ‘free market’ is?
    A world run by cocaine-fuelled twentysomething screen-jockeys, selling Futures they haven’t even bought yet, because “greed is good”.
    There’s your ‘markets’.

    It’s time to say Stop.

  113. 113
    Boris loses the Irish vote says:

    Boris Johnson refused an invitation to travel to County Mayo this month, to watch the London Gaelic Football team play in the Connacht Final, and instantly lost millions of Anglo-Irish Tory votes.


  114. 114
    Are you kidding? says:

    Are you kidding?
    They’ll sell them to you at German prices. Or below.

  115. 115
    Own UP says:

    I will vote UKIP.

  116. 116
    Doctor, No! says:

    I guess we’ll all have to buy Aston Martins, so.

  117. 117
    Own UP says:

    Cameron is backing the big Energy Swindle http://energyswindle.org/ he is also having his big Fake vote this evening o a EU Referendum, he is not to be trusted except to mislead everybody. UKIP is now the Party of the People whilst the rest are there for their own ends.

  118. 118
    Own UP says:

    And what about the Chemtrails ?

  119. 119
    Old Dog No Tricks says:

    I guess you missed a few fairly recent by election results I guess – quite a few there (and ever growing) whom you might have missed whilst trying hard to keep the faith with the LibLabCon :)

  120. 120
    Observer says:

    She looks like ‘Margot’ from “The Good Life”.

  121. 121
    Own UP says:

    If you want Communism vote Labour (Trade Unions), if you want Communism vote Conservative, If you want nothing then vote LibDem !

    If you want a proper Peoples Party then vote UKIP.

  122. 122
    Anonymous says:

    They have the right. There is no privacy. 100 people in an audience is not private. Although I have been to one meeting were I was the only person.

    At that meeting I concluded that they were too incompetent to carry out any corruption as they were unable to even read. They confused weeks with years!

    Corruption is not the issue with local councils. Stupidity is.

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    Observer says:

    That’s because Britain had a car industry.
    Until 1973.

  124. 124
    Anonymous says:

    Sorry I missed out the obvious problem: party politics. Something that the public has no access to.

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    timmy terrified says:

    Nope ! Even many of us on benefits (unfortunately) will be sticking it to the scumbags in the LibLabCon by voting UKIP.

    The benefits system has been corrupted by the 3 main parties trying to buy votes with our own tax money (I paid higher rate everything for 30 years) and now I need the help (redundant and over 50) until things pick up…. they make us throw away everything we have built up in our lifetimes in order that they can buy the immigrant/female single parent vote.

    As a singleton male…. I can assure you there are no beer and fag parties to be had…. just a struggle to make ends meet and charity applications for bill relief after the windmill scam makes it impossible to pay for utilities !

    If it was not for family bringing round food bags on a regular basis I would be starving and homeless by now….. not what one would expect in return for NI contributions which will take the rest of my life at current rates to use up.

    The Dacre points at men…. but the only people who can live off the state are those who push out kids or live with those who push them out with no thoughts but a bagload full of ‘rights’.

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    I was at a meeting with half a dozen councillors last night, mostly conservative, and introduced myself as the secretary of t’local UKIP branch – the instant fear and loathing was most amusing.

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    timmy terrified says:

    A referendum being held by a 3 party stitch up – all wanting to stay in is not a fair and balanced referendum….. you only have to listen to the standard of thought on question time (by the audiences) to comprehend that the majority of people still believe the BBC view of everything.

    Referendum or not – I’ll be voting UKIP…. even if they have a pre election referendum and the OUT vote wins….. I’ll never vote for the LibLabCon artists ever again !

  128. 128
    timmy terrified says:

    I thought that crash helmets etc etc were already banned in certain places…. hoodies too…. (not that I agree with the ban necessarily) but your beloved LibLabcon have alredy allowed this to go on…. so why aren’t you railing against that ? Oh – because you cannot think beyond the LibLabCon stitch up……

  129. 129
    timmy terrified says:

    In actual fact about 80% of UK trade is internal to the UK so the EU trade accounts for overall, not more than 9% of our total trade…. not a lot of people know this….. and it means also that our external (earning BoP) is worth even less….. the EU is nothing of benefit to the UK and even less to worry about if we left…… and don’t let anyone tell you different. Only vested interests have any reason to see the EU as a benefit……. The ordinary person cannot even make use of the so called ‘free trade arrangements’ by purchasing from another EU country over the internet…… so what use is it to anyone out in real life land ?

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    UKIP Voter says:

    The Cons/Libs/Lab should be worried as UKIP will take votes off all of them.
    All right thinking people should take every opportunity to vote UKIP as the only way to get rid of these self serving hypocrites

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    Old Blind Pugh says:

    Tim tha sounds like a very unhappy chappie, I was a single chap in the 1980’s and still am, I was made redundant in Jan 1981 the same time 250,000 others received their cards, queues 50yards long (those were the days) and by September, my 36 birthday, and all the job ads in the local rag had the words “those over 35 need not apply”. I hope you do manage to find something but youth reigns and degree, even though the job just requires you do the job. Good Luck

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    tigerowl says:

    And farage isnt one? Popularist politics is a disaster waiting to happen. Easy to talk up but almost impossible to deliver. Leave the EU. End immigration. Cut public spending. cut workers rights. Good UKIP policies.
    Easily led people will vote and then find what a mistake it was.

  134. 134
    tigerowl says:

    British workers eh. Well much of welfare goes to working people. Tax credit, child benefit etc. UKIP message…. bigger cuts an dless workers rights. Great place to vote i think not.

  135. 135
    Anonymous says:

    UKIP won 3 local by-elections yesterday. So someone’s voting for them.

  136. 136
    Anonymous says:

    Labour does not need to worry about white workers, it already has the illegal immigrant vote in the post.

  137. 137
    I'm voting UKIP EU and General says:

    Our politics badly needs a kick in the pants and a massive shake up. I hope UKIP will do that, the other three certainly won’t. Their busy fiddling everything, taking back handers and demanding massive wage rises.

    They might not be a perfect alternative to the older, more established parties but then what is in this world? At the very least they offer a way out of the crumbling EU. They also seem to have some very honourable councillors, who are donating their wages to local tax cut charities, claiming no expenses, mobile phone or free council parking space. a very refreshing change from the ones that currently draw £150,000 a year, plus all the perks, free lunches and holidays they can get their paws on.
    Many of the UKIP councillors are people who have worked for a living, down here with you and me in the real world, which is what we really need in parliament.

  138. 138
    Owen Jones' proctologist says:

    I am desperately repairing a gaping hole in British politics

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    PMR says:

    Why do you think 2017 is the vote date for the referendum? So by then all the illegal immigrants will be allowed to vote to stay in the UK taxpayer funded money trough – oink oink – smell what’s in the air for the troughers!!!!

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    del flaunty says:

    Well, you could start at Eastleigh & move on to Rotherham etc in fact you could visit the 160 odd places where Ukip now have councillors or you could visit the many places where Ukip finished 2nd in local elections & as time goes on you’ll find it easier & easier to locate them, trust me, you just need to know where to look!

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    Brimstone says:

    Good protection for workers is important. But many small and medium size businesses don’t take on new people and sometimes close becaue of the EU’s regulations.

    Which is worse, slightly not so good workers right or being on the dole?

  142. 142
    Anonymous says:

    Vote ukip

  143. 143
    Anonymous says:

    Half the 36% are illegal

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