June 28th, 2013

UKIP Voters Back Boris

The public don’t yet trust Boris to be PM, so says some pretty comprehensive polling released by Lord Ashcroft this morning. Only just over a third said he was capable of the running the country, while Tory voters overwhelmingly backed Dave. The UKIP results are arguably the most interesting. 35% of UKIP voters saying they would consider voting Tory if Boris were leader. Tory backbenchers must be wondering just how many would come home…


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  1. 1
    UKIP voter says:

    I certainly don.t He is out of the same mould as call me Dave.

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      Lord Stansted says:

      +1

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        Defected says:

        + 25%

        A little to the right of Cameron, but let’s face it, essentially Johnson is a ‘more of the same’ candidate and it’s the ‘same’ we don’t want.

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        • 39
          Boris says:

          Oy vey! Amnesty for the 5m illegals now! We must finish off the hideously White Christian nation! That okay Mr Rothschild?

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        • 50
          Fact Inserter says:

          Boris wants Britain AND Turkey in the EU.

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          • Vote UKRAP? No thanks - Militwat's band wagon is tough enough toswallow says:

            UKIP back Boris ffs? A bloody Johnny foreigner, coming over here and taking our Mayoral jobs, speaking dead languages and shagging all of our woman – LEAVE THE EU! (to Nige’s off shore expense/ educational trust account. You know it makes sense to ignore the pachyderm in the planetarium.

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          • The EU has failed says:

            From ‘the heir to Blair’ to ‘the hair to baldness’?

            Are you joking?

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    • 37
      Loon watch says:

      Are you one of those implacably upset about gay marriage?

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      Anonymous says:

      No chance of a Tory victory in 2015 UKIP are on the rise

      UKIP performances in yesterday’s by-elections:

      BASILDON – Billericay East: 29.84%

      DARTFORD – Newtown: 22.71%

      PLYMOUTH – Southway: 26.45%

      RUTLAND – Ketton: 17.47%

      SOUTH TYNESIDE – Cleadon and East Boldon: 26.06%

      SOUTH TYNESIDE – Primrose: 34.64%

      WORCESTERSHIRE – Stourport-on-Severn: 25.97%

      UKIP overall performance in contested by-elections yesterday:

      UKIP votes: 3,705
      Total votes: 13,863
      UKIP percentage: 26.73%

      UKIP overall performance, including Newark & Sherwood where they didn’t stand:

      UKIP votes: 3,705
      Total votes: 15,719
      UKIP percentage: 23.57%

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    • 109
      Anonymous says:

      Friday, 28 June 2013
      Germans get agreement on plundering bank accounts
      The Germans have got the agreement they wanted that all EU member states will legalise the theft of citizens’ money in the event of a bank failure.

      Under the new rules which the British government backtracked on and supported, national governments will be prevented from bailing out a bank unless they have already written off large share and bond holdings, emptied corporate bank accounts and stolen anything over €100k in any bank account that hasn’t yet been plundered. Only then can they step in and financially support the bank to prevent it collapsing and that support will be limited to just 5% of the bank’s liabilities.

      Cllr Donna Edmunds wrote in favour of this proposal the other day – something that was met with scepticism from other UKIPpers in the ensuing Twitter debate. In a nutshell, Donna says that it’s better that they’re open about their intention to steal your money up front and it shows people that the EU is prepared to steal from citizens to further its agenda which will surely damage the EU. To a certain extent I agree with the logic – it’s unusual for the EU to be so open about an abuse of trust and natural justice – but this “bail in” concept is a dangerous one.

      The banking system is built on trust. You put your money in the bank because you trust that it is safer in a bank than it is in a box under your bed but this shows that it’s anything but safe in a bank. Most people won’t have anything like £85k in the bank but who’s to say the £85k won’t be dropped to £50k or even £1k if the government, on a whim, decides to do it? There was no legal basis to steal anything over €100k from bank accounts in Cyprus so the Cypriot government simply ordered that all bank accounts were to be frozen until they could pass a law to make it legal. The British government could just as easily freeze and confiscate money – any amount of money – from bank accounts in the UK.

      The idea of emptying corporate bank accounts is also a worrying one. Left wing politicians and media like to cast big business as the bogeyman but they are responsible for a big proportion of what goes into the public purse and employ millions of people. Depriving them of capital could bankrupt them or damage their creditworthiness making it harder for them to do business resulting in job losses and the destruction of entire local economies that rely on the supply chain of large employers.

      Then there’s the increased likelihood of institutional investors and multinationals pulling out of the UK and the EU as a whole to insulate themselves from potential losses from the kind of “solidarity” wealth confiscation system that you would normally associate with repressive regimes in third world countries and communist states.

      Barclays Bank are quite happy with the “bail in” idea and the quote from their analysts gives away the reason:

      good news, in our view, and paves the way for a start to discussions on the establishment of a single resolution mechanism, the second leg of the banking union
      Complying with different banking rules and regulations in the 27 vassal states of the EU is an expensive business and a minefield for banks. It’s only natural that they would support a banking union that would reduce the cost of doing business across the continent and of course they don’t care where the money comes from that supplies the safety net for when they get things wrong and run out of money. Just because banks are experts on banking doesn’t mean that what they support is in the best interests of their customers and this is certainly one example of where it isn’t.

      It’s a damning indictment of our clueless and weak politicians when it’s safer to keep your money in a box under your bed than it is to keep it in the bank.

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  2. 2
    Why is the BBC running the Tory Party? says:

    It’s Bleeding obvious.

    Dave is the BBC’s Tory

    Boris is the Tory’s Tory

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    The EU has failed says:

    Not me. Replacing one Tory toff with another Tory toff is hardly appealing, especially by one who advocated an illegal immigrant amnesty.

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    • 42
      Anonymous says:

      Not that I give much of a fcuk but Farage is an ex-public school city slicker. Perhaps you’d like to reflect on that.

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        Magaluf Engerlander says:

        UKIP supporters….? Reflect on Nige…..? You have got to be joking! The bar is set so low for St. Nigel of Credit Lyonnais Rouse and all of his SEL’s, it just about lets neutrinos under it.

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    Jabba Le Chat says:

    Lol…confirms that UKIP useful idiots are just that, idiots…

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    • 80
      Defected says:

      Your fauxservative party hates you, did you not get the memo you swivel eyed loon?

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        Magaluf Engerlander says:

        UKRAP thank you for your continued support, and offer you this lighthearted parable to show our intentions once we gain power:

        While walking down the street one day, a UKIP supporter is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

        “Welcome to Heaven,” says St. Peter. “Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a UKIP supporter around these parts, you see, so we’re not sure what to do with you.”

        “No problem, just let me in.” he says..

        “Well, I’d like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we’ll do is have you spend one day in Hell and one in Heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.”

        “Really, I’ve made up my mind. I want to be in Heaven,” says the UKIP’er

        “I’m sorry but we have our rules.” And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the lift, and he goes down, down, down to Hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a club and standing in front of it are all his friends and other UKIP supporters who had worked with him to get Nigel and all of his cohorts elected, and everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, hug him, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting Nigel elected at expense of all of the other “corrupt” parties. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster and caviar. Also present is the Devil (Looking exactly like Nigel, but smoking slightly less), who really is as he is portrayed, a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes.

        They are having such a good time that, before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a big hug and waves while the lift doors close and it starts it’s upwards ascent. The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on Heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.

        “Now it’s time to visit Heaven.” So 24 hours pass with the UKIP’er joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

        “Well then, you’ve spent a day in Hell and another in Heaven. Now choose your eternity.”

        He reflects for a minute, then the UKIP’er answers: “Well, I would never have thought it, I mean Heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in Hell.”

        So Saint Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to Hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and he is in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags. The Devil (AS Nigel, for it is he!) comes over to the UKIP’er and lays an arm on his neck.

        “I don’t understand,” stammers the UKIP’er. Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and club and we ate lobster and caviar and danced and had a great time. Now all there is a wasteland full of garbage and all my friends look miserable.

        The Devil looks at him, smiles and says, “Yesterday we were campaigning. Today you voted for us!”

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  6. 6
    Another Lamb to the slaughter says:

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      Maqboul says:

      No, a couple of years of cheap money, full-on partying in Riga, then bailouts when the bills can’t be paid.

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      • 38
        C.O.Jones says:

        Believe it or not, the Baltic states have dealt with their massive public sector burden since the fall of communism.

        They have learnt whereas we have not. The great economic mind of Tony Blair and his one eyed successor added over a million new public sector workers to the payroll and golden pension plan.

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        • 72
          Gordon Brown says:

          Nursey gave me some moist botty wipes yesterday as I had run out of the Daily Mail. How very pleasant, I am looking forward eagerly to my next poo.

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    • 79
      Richard Head says:

      And congratulations to Greece and Italy for not having bothered with the convergence criteria and just using false accounting instead.
      I hasten to add that the European Union itself engages in no such malpractice. If our accounts were all wrong, the auditors would have said so!

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        Puff the magic dragoon says:

        …. and of course we would have publicised that fact widely throughout Europe.

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  7. 7
    BBC News says:

    An interesting poll. We will be discussing it with specially selected audiences at a location in South West England over the next 3 days

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  8. 8
    Bazinga! says:

    And UKIP is just full of the same old Tories that sold us down the river time after time, so why does anyone think they can be trusted?

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    • 87
      Magaluf Engerlander says:

      While I agree wholeheartedly about UKIP – I think you’ll find it has been Labour that have screwed the British people every time – the Tories, who are far from blameless in the political department, have always had to put the house in order, like rather uncaring parents returning home after a fortnight in their Tuscan villa to find their teenagers have turned the house into a travellers refuge.

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    • 88
      Anon says:

      and you think anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together should trust the liblabcon?

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  9. 9
    mad, swivel-eyed loon says:

    Haven’t we had enough of Eton Mess Bullingdon boys who don’t give a toss about their voters and refuse to listen to them on the EU, immigration, globalisation and global warming?

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  10. 10
    Observer says:

    Guido

    Reference the article you post by Mandelson about cleaning up the Labour Party…

    He really is a first class comedian – almost on a par with the two Eds, Chuka and Co, who could put on a running hit in the West End any day…

    But for arguably one of the most corrupt politicians of the last half century to talk about morality takes the fooking biscuit

    If I were a member of the Labour Party, I would tell him to go back to Moscow or some Central Asian dictatorship and stay there…

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  11. 11
    Anonymous says:

    “The UKIP results are arguably the most interesting”

    Not least because Boris is more socially liberal than Cameron, and has just the same views on the EU.

    More evidence that UKIP supporters lack a brain cell between them?

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  12. 16
    Anthem says:

    Did I miss a meeting or something? When did Boris become leader of UKIP?

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    • 25
      Sid The Y!d says:

      While you were making your shit website that no one reads or gives two monkey fucks about. I am pig sick of the little sniveling so called bloggers coming on here thinking that somehow because they have a three page blog consisting of their opinions and stolen content from Guido and others they think suddenly they are Bertie Big Bollocks and will be on Sky news next week tea bagging Owen Jones for a few of old Rupert’s blood stained shekels.

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  13. 18
    Sid The Y!d says:

    Vote UKIP get Mossad. Vote Tory get Rothschilds. Vote Labour get Fucked.

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  14. 19
    Iain says:

    Unsurprising that Boris is behind Dave, as he’s the incumbent, but on all voters it is funny that he’s 3rd behind Mili-bandwagon jumper Ed as well.

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  15. 20
    A pervert's view on the Mayor of London says:

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    Hoots! It's Clown says:

    Good hear Madiba remains stable. Unlike meeeeeee! Wibble!

    Ya bas.

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      Living in 97.2% white Merseyside says:

      As long as he stays stable C4 News and BBC will be able to concentrate on St Stephen.

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  18. 30
    S-E Loon says:

    The Cleggster’s in trouble when not even half the LibDems say that he would be the best PM.

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  19. 31
    Britannia says:

    I see that an anti-British Tory MP has said he wants an amnesty for illegals. Some Tories really are a disgrace.

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    • 78
      Gordon Bliar McFuckwit says:

      Only one
      They are all anti brit on the other side of the house the 13 years of terror proved it

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      • 83
        What well known racist socialists said these things? says:

        These people need to have their noses rubbed in it.

        The English, as a race, do not deserve to survive.

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  20. 32
    Wurzel says:

    Only 47% of his own party are backing Clogg – As usual, bottom of the ratings. Though a party that could not head Labour at their most hated in 2010, should really have got the message and shut up shop.

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  21. 33
    Times are not changing just the depth of corruption says:

    Polls are not even a slice of what people were thinking at the time, the only thing that matters is the vote that puts the vile lazy b,stards into power, sadly the braindead public will vote for a sardine so long as it’s been shown on tv, if the public were to start asking these politicians what’s in it for them if they vote the politicians then maybe the public will get what the public needs, decent honest politicians who are really working for the public good not the politicians good

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  22. 35
    Ex Tory Activist says:

    Dave promoted Gay Marriage — an unforgivable inexcusable disaster — get rid of him

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    • 48
      Vote Tory says:

      Sod orf to Ukip if you haven’t already.

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      • 54
        Tories will lose in 2015 says:

        Marriage won’t exist anymore. Dave is destroying it. He is a gay luvving ponce.

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      • 84
        You'll be crawling come 2015 and guess what? We'll be laughing at you says:

        “Sod orf to Ukip”

        The authentic voice of todays ‘conservative’ party.

        Yes, they really do hate their own members, just like Labour do.

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          Magaluf Engerlander says:

          No – we just pity those who never learn from history, while carrying out the same action repeatedly and expecting a different outcome…. you know, UKIP voters.

          (BTW, yo mamma is so fat, she have 3 different time zones.)

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  23. 36
    DAVE fool of Europe Camermong says:

    The E U rebate that Dave thought he had secured , is now back on the table for the next summit
    Dave , just tell them to Fuck Off ! , and if they don’t like it Tough !
    and take your ball back

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    • 40
      St.Hilda of Grantham says:

      The man is weak and a total failure

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      • 49
        C.O.Jones says:

        Well, Tony Blair surrendered half of it and still did not get Rumpeys job.

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          He's stupid and conceited enough to fall for it too says:

          Perhaps Barroso and Rumpoy will cook up another, ‘if you give it all up, we’ll make you king’ routine, for gullible Dave?

          After all, post 2015, his job prospects in the UK, are not looking good.

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    • 58
      tourmaline says:

      It’s not the ball we want him to take back – it’s our £53million a day that they are flushing down the loo on such worthless projects as baronessashton and her pretend eu foreign office.

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  24. 43

    Polls tend to tell you that: if your aunt had balls, she would be your uncle.

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  25. 44
    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    Ah ah ah hee hee hee I’m a laughing turd and you can’t catch me.

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  26. 52
    A Just war says:

    Instead of declaring war on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Scotchland. Why doesn’t Dave do a useful war and raise Brussels to the ground?

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      Puff the magic dragoon says:

      Brussels has been ‘raised’ quite high enough thanks. Better to raze it….

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  27. 53
    The BBC says:

    Is there a Glastonbury angle to this poll that we can use?

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  28. 57
    Anonymous says:

    That 35% is the ABD vote.Anybody But Dave.

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  29. 63

    Whilst Larry Summers is right to criticise UK policy, the fact remains that he was a prime contributor to the débâcle that led to the 2007 crash from his advice at the time of Clinton’s residency IMO. Incidentally, he managed to become seriously rich from the bubble that ensued in the so-called good years that never were.

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  30. 65
    Anonymous says:

    Rumpty Tumty wecomes Latvia “fulfilment of all convergence criteria”. Just like Italy then.

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  31. 66
    Boris Carloffe says:

    Boris is playing the long game, waiting for Dave to loose the election, then coming to the Tories as salvation, to bring the then labour govenment down and win the following eection. I think he and all Conservatives are in for a shock, as by then time will have moved on, and Farrage and UKIP will have become a major force.

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    • 94
      Spell Check says:

      I think you meant either “farce” as the last word or you omitted the word “spent” before force. Really. Trust me.

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        Headmistress (still on strike) says:

        … he also meant ‘lose’ and not ‘loose’ which means something completely different (and is one of the most common spelling errors in this forum).

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  32. 73
    Anonymous says:

    Your chart is wrong, the 29 ‘All’ for BoJo bar is longer than the ‘All’ bars for others with higher scores.

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  33. 76
    ed balls - world champion Formula Numpty says:

    The magistrate can kiss my arrrrrrseee
    We’ll keep the red lights flying there

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  34. 96
    Old Git says:

    35% said “they might” hardly a resounding certainty…and definitely not a headline “would support”

    Dreaming again are we…

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  35. 104
    Tosspot says:

    Was interesting my American Friend’s children knew and had remembered who Boris was from Stateside Media, thought Cameron was some kind of biscuit and as for Milliband, thought it was some kind of insect… out of the mouthes of children………

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  36. 106
    Robert the Bilderberger says:

    What is amazing is that as many as 1% of Tories think Millionaire Milliband would make a good PM!

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    Anonymous says:

    Friday, 28 June 2013
    Germans get agreement on plundering bank accounts
    The Germans have got the agreement they wanted that all EU member states will legalise the theft of citizens’ money in the event of a bank failure.

    Under the new rules which the British government backtracked on and supported, national governments will be prevented from bailing out a bank unless they have already written off large share and bond holdings, emptied corporate bank accounts and stolen anything over €100k in any bank account that hasn’t yet been plundered. Only then can they step in and financially support the bank to prevent it collapsing and that support will be limited to just 5% of the bank’s liabilities.

    Cllr Donna Edmunds wrote in favour of this proposal the other day – something that was met with scepticism from other UKIPpers in the ensuing Twitter debate. In a nutshell, Donna says that it’s better that they’re open about their intention to steal your money up front and it shows people that the EU is prepared to steal from citizens to further its agenda which will surely damage the EU. To a certain extent I agree with the logic – it’s unusual for the EU to be so open about an abuse of trust and natural justice – but this “bail in” concept is a dangerous one.

    The banking system is built on trust. You put your money in the bank because you trust that it is safer in a bank than it is in a box under your bed but this shows that it’s anything but safe in a bank. Most people won’t have anything like £85k in the bank but who’s to say the £85k won’t be dropped to £50k or even £1k if the government, on a whim, decides to do it? There was no legal basis to steal anything over €100k from bank accounts in Cyprus so the Cypriot government simply ordered that all bank accounts were to be frozen until they could pass a law to make it legal. The British government could just as easily freeze and confiscate money – any amount of money – from bank accounts in the UK.

    The idea of emptying corporate bank accounts is also a worrying one. Left wing politicians and media like to cast big business as the bogeyman but they are responsible for a big proportion of what goes into the public purse and employ millions of people. Depriving them of capital could bankrupt them or damage their creditworthiness making it harder for them to do business resulting in job losses and the destruction of entire local economies that rely on the supply chain of large employers.

    Then there’s the increased likelihood of institutional investors and multinationals pulling out of the UK and the EU as a whole to insulate themselves from potential losses from the kind of “solidarity” wealth confiscation system that you would normally associate with repressive regimes in third world countries and communist states.

    Barclays Bank are quite happy with the “bail in” idea and the quote from their analysts gives away the reason:

    good news, in our view, and paves the way for a start to discussions on the establishment of a single resolution mechanism, the second leg of the banking union
    Complying with different banking rules and regulations in the 27 vassal states of the EU is an expensive business and a minefield for banks. It’s only natural that they would support a banking union that would reduce the cost of doing business across the continent and of course they don’t care where the money comes from that supplies the safety net for when they get things wrong and run out of money. Just because banks are experts on banking doesn’t mean that what they support is in the best interests of their customers and this is certainly one example of where it isn’t.

    It’s a damning indictment of our clueless and weak politicians when it’s safer to keep your money in a box under your bed than it is to keep it in the bank.

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  38. 111
    hmmm says:

    you’re all fucking mental

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  39. 113
    Another bent poll says:

    Scales all different and Garage not given as option

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