June 12th, 2013

Digital Dave Launches Online Referendum Push

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businessforbritain.org/

The Tories have finally realised that they need to bang on about Europe now UKIP have pushed it up the political agenda. The launch of the all-party Business for Britain campaign was the starting gun for the referendum campaign Cameron is promising for 2017.

Though the LibDems will hate it, the ‘Let Britain Decide’ website will target MPs who are refusing to trust the public with a referendum. Finally we are seeing the Tories utilising their European policy as a strength, it could all have been so different for Ed Miliband…

UPDATEFew teething problems, possibly CCHQ were a bit unwise to brief out the site before it was ready:

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114 Comments

  1. 1
    mad, swivel-eyed loon says:

    I see Cameron is signing away more of our rights, he is so toast come 2015.

    http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=84026

  2. 2
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Roman salutes?

    Salute Il Duce…

  3. 3
    Anonymous says:

    First?

  4. 4
    Lordy Dordy says:

    Too little too late Davey boy

  5. 5
    EU DAVE Belly Up says:

    Bollocks Guido. Dave is Pro EU and Pro signing away sovereignty. Position of strength my arse.

  6. 6
    Empty Ed Milliband, trying to find somfing to say says:

    Arnie Graf asked me the other day what the EU stood for

    I told him he was a Chicago backwoodsman who should realise he was working in Europe now…

    He told me that in his view Britain was already the 51st State and that this matter was of no relevance…

  7. 7
    Swift says:

    He is a scheming weasel. The public know he is not to be trusted.

  8. 8
    Gordon Brown says:

    Which idiot gave Graf a visa?

    British jobs for British political cronies

  9. 9
    Old Blind Pugh says:

    OK have an online vote whatever but would you and the other non-EU folks let it go if there was a resounding YES to staying in, and the other lot let it go if it was NO, I would guess the non-EUers wouldn’t.

  10. 10
    A Position of Strength? Is Guido taking the Piss? says:

  11. 11
    Ah! Monika says:

    OOPS

    http://www.letbritaindecide.com/

    Need authentication to enter

  12. 12
    John Tandy says:

    I am Tory through and through since 1979 but totally and utterly anti EU as are many of the Tory voters I converse with. If the PM thinks he can get away with spinning a few cosmetic treaty changes as a ‘fundamental’ change in our relationship with Europe, he is going to be sadly disappointed in 2017, if he manages re-election in 2015. It looks increasingly unlikely that he will win outright in 2015 and that the Limp Dems will have a huge say in any referendum in 2017. Most Tory’s including Cam himself, campaigned against PR, which the Limp Dems were wedded to, they will take their revenge on Dave in 2017. Guaranteed !!

  13. 13
    Northern benefit parasite says:

    No politician will give up their eu bribes, pensions, expenses and other slush funds. Referendum, my Arse.

  14. 14
    Kinnots says:

    Well boyos, the EU is broadly neutral as far as I can see. Yes, the Government puts a lot of cash into the EU, but, hell, you haven’t seen just how much Glenpis and me get out in return.

  15. 15
    Democracy Now says:

    Not if they allow postal votes or allow Non-British citizens to vote.

  16. 16
    Old Blind Pugh says:

    NO

  17. 17
    Fuck Off you Old Communist says:

  18. 18
    M102 says:

    He’s an EU placeman bought and paid for.

  19. 19
    Ah! Monika says:

    Just been on the site. Not available in Braille.

    I take it you have Text Aloud on.

  20. 20
    Back@woodsman says:

    Damascene conversion, or weasel words taken to hitherto unreached levels ?

  21. 21
    One-term Dave, dragging the Tories to their grave, says:

    Over the next few years, I will be borrowing hundreds of millions of pounds which I’ll spend very widely on convincing you silly little oiks to vote “YES” to staying in the EU.

    If you vote “YES”, well that will be simply spiffing! And if you vote “NO”, I’ll jolly well think of a way to ignore you. Perhaps I’ll hold another referendum (after spending even more of your money), in the hope you give the right result. Or perhaps I’ll just ignore you. Guff-haw haw haw haw!

    Remember, fruitcakes: There are absolutely no circumstances under which I will take Britain out of the super duper EU. Your silly little referendum doesn’t alter that fact one little bit, what what.

    Toodle-ooh!

  22. 22
    mad, swivel-eyed loon says:

    Well, that’s the useless lying conniving deceitful mendacious fuckwit Cameron all over.

    However, I have the password, it’s called press the cancel button and it lets you through.

  23. 23
    Wyle Cop says:

    LetBritainDecide.com, eh?

    There’s a much shorter domain name: http://www.ukip.org

  24. 24
    We are in for a Surpise says:

    The LibDems may well have ceased to exist by the day after the election in 2015. What you see now is a shell of a party. They have no activists left in many parts of the country.

  25. 25
    Old Blind Pugh says:

    In the 1960’s Harold Wilson approached the USA if would accept the UK as the next state of the USA, the Yanks said NO.

  26. 26
    Ah! Monika says:

    Press cancel for a beta version

  27. 27
    mad, swivel-eyed loon says:

    Not even second, you loser.

  28. 28
    Nigel Mirage says:

    Obviously we don’t want you to have a referendum either.

  29. 29
    nellnewman says:

    That sites not working – it’s asking for authentication before you’re given a chance to sign up for it.

    I hope this isn’t an example of how he’s planning to run the referendum!!

  30. 30
    The British Public says:

    They will. We will make them.

  31. 31
    Old Blind Pugh says:

    Should that be income tax payers to the UK exchequer ?

  32. 32
    The British Public says:

    Cameron can give us a referendum this year, if he is sincere.

  33. 33
    A Postal Vote Stuffer in Lahore says:

    It’s an example of how he is planning to not run the referendum

  34. 34
    Old Blind Pugh says:

    One Black Spot to you my boy!

  35. 35
    Handycock sex Tourist on Taxpayer's money says:

    I could not agree more, the Eu is good for us. I have been a Member of the Council for Europe for years, this is where I have done all my shagging at your expense. Europe is good for us all, especially me. Boaz.

  36. 36
    Jabba Le Chat says:

    U nlimited
    K leptocracy
    I n
    P rogress

  37. 37
    Liar.Politicians says:

    Cameron can set up all the websites he likes, there will be NO in.out referendum on the EU. EVER!

    Any promise that the Conservatives, Labour or LibDems make on the EU, is a lie. The UK will stay in the Communist block until the EU collapses all by itself, in just a few more years.

  38. 38
    Mandy from Moscow says:

    Hello boys and girls

    I am getting filthy rich in Moscow now

    My new friend Mr Putin tells me that he wants Britain to stay in the EU so that it can be better controlled

    And of course I agree with him

  39. 39
    Great Granddad says:

    He is indeed. I’m surprised that he has agreed to such an early date, 2017 is it, for us to be given the right to our referendum. Thank God that he wasn’t Prime Minister in 1941.

  40. 40
    Anonymous says:

    Honey, there aren’t enough Tory MPs. No wonder Ukip are slumping. They talk bollox.

  41. 41
    Tolstoy says:

    Does he realise you are gay yet?

  42. 42
    mad, swivel-eyed loon says:

    Sorry, you appear to be under several misapprehensions.

    Cameron does think that we’re stupid enough to fall for his lies.

    The Tories and especially Cameron will not be in power come June 2015, because their on voters are going to turn on them so badly, it will be carnage.

    AV is/was not PR, it is completely different and it would even more fix the LibLabCon into the tri-party state than we already have, which is why it was voted down. If you read the Royal Commission headed up by Roy Jenkins 1998, he said that it would favour the Labour party and that if AV were to be introduced then we should use AV+. AV+ means that some of the seats are allocated on a percentage basis, so that parties like UKIP that maybe got 20% of the vote but no MPs would at least be given some seats based on their vote percentage.

    Cam isn’t a Tory, not by a long shot.

  43. 43
    Old Blind Pugh says:

    Maybe Dave had one eye on the LibDems and the other on UKip, PR would have given both parties a good chance of obtaining more seats and lessening the grip of the Cons and Liebore. Geedo did not want PR and campaigned against it as did a lot of Cons.

  44. 44
    Dave Cameron says:

    We will surrender to them on the beaches…

  45. 45
    Ah! Monika says:

    How MPs racked up 3m Facebook hits: Figures show they waste thousands of hours on social networks and betting sites. Mail

  46. 46
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of jesus says:

    Ignoring that this is a political site it is funny to air views.
    I was just this minute thinking.
    “Why are things the way they are ? Why aren’t they like something else?”
    “Is the universe life ?”
    these puzzling issues are way more important than does one gay guy plus another gay guy make 2 gay guys.
    well I think so. Things need to be dealt with in order of importance with the tricky ones dealt with first.
    Having taken that we are a Country then it’s quite important to identify and control borders and our relations to all the others

  47. 47
    Great Granddad says:

    Well said. I don’t understand how so many seem to have missed the point.

  48. 48
    Quisling says:

    He’d have signed the nation’s children up for German lessons using a textbook licensed to his father by Goebbels.

  49. 49
    Captain Renault says:

    I’m shocked, shocked to find that our politicians have been lying to us and that there is no chance of a referendum.

  50. 50
    Take That says:

    It Only Takes A Minute

  51. 51
    Putrid says:

    Me an my wife have just split up.

  52. 52
    Historian says:

    Shurely not…

    Mr Wilson’s cronies, Kagan and co, were more closely aligned with Moscow at the time

    http://thetruthnews.info/British_Prime_Minister_Blackmailed.html

  53. 53
    F*ck off Lib lab con says:

    If you press cancel twice it lets you in to the site without authentication.
    As a UKIP loon I was interested to see what it said. Usual crap from the Conservatives, who I have voted for like a stupid donkey for 45 yrs. No more.

  54. 54
    Nick says:

    It won’t help the Conservative Party because no one trusts them on this issue. I have canvassed for the Conservative Party in the past and told people that it offers the best chance for Eurosceptics, but I am not going to be fooled again.

  55. 55
    Hear all See all Say nowt says:

    Sod their phoney attempt to find out my intentions.
    I’ll record them in the ballot box next year & in 2015.

  56. 56
    Ah! Monika says:

    Try this. A Universe from nothing!

  57. 57
    Hansard writer says:

    That should read “borrowing tens of BILLIONS”

    From the Chinese…

    That is why he kisses Chinese arse nowadays….and wants London to become the centre for trading Yuan….

    Simples

    PS Tony Blair called Cameron to say that he should kiss US arse rather than Chinese recently, because it was good for his personal offshore business…

  58. 58
    Owen Jones says:

    It will be long and it will be hard. But in the end, there will be no withdrawel.

  59. 59
    A Reader says:

    A simple declaration that the terms of membership have altered in the last twelve months or so, because of the ever increasing powers of the EU over areas of vital national interest (there are plenty of examples) and the other parties will be forced to agree to a referendum.

    Its not rocket science – it is called leadership and putting the nation first. Incidentally, I do not support UKIP. I do, however, believe we should have a referendum on this issue. It is long overdue.

  60. 60
    A Gourmet says:

    Donkey meat is delicious.

  61. 61
    nout.....yin says:

    blinded by water.
    yes.
    £55
    .
    is the landlord the father.
    is the landlord the sun
    is the landlord an aquarian.
    think we should zero be told.
    oro
    o, be my ro….time for lo. give it away.
    it was the cynical old man who started it.
    drama.

  62. 62
    Great Granddad says:

    First past the post is the only system that can provide leadership. Sadly, it needs a real leader to make it work. The mess that we are in now became inevitable on the very day that Cameron, of all people, was ‘elected’ Tory leader. We now have a desperate need for U.K.I.P. to save us. Fortunately they are ably (but unintentionally) aided by their greatest asset, Mouthballs.

  63. 63
    Tory voter says:

    99% of people couldn’t be bothered to visit a political party website. Waste of time and money

  64. 64
    SP4 BS says:

    “Cameron does think that we’re stupid enough ” to let him be prime minister.

  65. 65

    Do you mind me asking two questions?

    1. Do you exist?

    2. if the answer to 1. above is yes then how can I be sure?

  66. 66
    Archbishop Cromwell says:

    He’s set up a website to campaign for his own policy. Who is being petitioned, himself?

    The elephant in the room is that in any referendum Dave and the rest of the establishment will campaign to stay in the EU regardless of what the terms are.

  67. 67
    KGB oligarch always first with the news says:

    We like Hot Totty

    http://www.styleite.com/media/alina-kabaeva-vogue-russia/

  68. 68
    Oooh look they took the Greek telly away, oh we can't no telly says:

    Pigs seen flying around the palace of thieves, they will be mining cream cheese from the moon before “our Dave” gives the people of this sad country a referendum n the EU, come 2015 he can go to hell in a handcart for all I care.

  69. 69

    Never look at humanity out of context or you’ll die laughing
    Ivan Kozlov 1779 – 1840

  70. 70
    Max Clifford, PR Guru says:

    You have understood nothing

    In the modern world, we create reality from myth

    And make bloody millions on the way

    Dust to dust old boy…

  71. 71
    nout.....yin says:

    osex
    is
    ono
    britwasthehit,
    forgetiime.
    sophieschoice.
    letthehousedecide.
    saynowt
    palythedgamenowt.

  72. 72

    Nеvеr lооk аt humаnіty оut оf cоntеxt оr yоu’ll dіе lаughіng
    Іvаn Kоzlоv 1779 – 1840

  73. 73
    mad, swivel-eyed loon says:

    Once again, AV is not PR.

  74. 74

    And when you die, where do you take it?

  75. 75
    mad, swivel-eyed loon says:

    They can’t be any worse than the current mongs in power.

  76. 76
    Time For Real Change says:

    Agreed the Lib-Dem vote has collapsed, they are polling sub 10% consistently and have nothing to offer those who are fed up with the Labour / Conservative pro EU alliance.

  77. 77
    Mad Jack the Jungle Quack says:

    Yes how true Dave has the look of a collaborator all right! Can’t stand any of the crop of today’s politcos. I seen a few of the greats up close met Churchill in 44 when I was in London on sick leave from out East and he popped in to see my then CO who he had invited to lunch and I got to tag along. He wanted to know all about the operation I’d been involved in and asked very pertinent questions about kit and tactics and how these where improved over what we had previously when fighting the Japs in 42.

    You could tell at once here was a man who knew his mind and was convinced of what needed to be done. In short a leader!

  78. 78
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of jesus says:

    I could send you my gpg sig but I would prefer to stay anon. Anyway I know “Them” know who I am already.

  79. 79
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of jesus says:

    What I do not understand and perhaps somebody can help with this ?
    an example bought binoculars the other week and before I used them they had fallen apart the structure was relying on a tiny 1/2 mm piece of crap plastic.

    My problem is. why would somebody do that ?
    why set up tooling make this investment to produce crap ?
    I don’t understand

  80. 80
    Blind_leading_the_blind says:

    ” It’s 40 years since the British people had their say”

    Not true – We’ve never had a “say” on EU – last referendum was on EEC – completely different subject. Yes -EEC No – EU

  81. 81
    Anonymous says:

  82. 82
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of jesus says:

    donkeys are like 3 grand a piece in that part of the UK called Southern Ireland

  83. 83
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of jesus says:

    I didn’t actually try to buy one you understand but I did meet a guy in a pub in (where shall I say) Lickeen and he told me

  84. 84
    Big Bad Boris says:

    “Too big, too soon” is my motto.

    Keep on banging for Britain and leave Dave to the company of his nancy boys.

  85. 85
    Big Bad Boris says:

    If it looks like a cvnt and sounds like a cvnt, it’s a cvnt.

  86. 86
    Big Bad Boris says:

    When it comes to arse, Dave’s not fussy.

  87. 87
    Village Idiot says:

    …In light of the “Wishfull Thinking Poll”,that puts UKIP on 12%,i would like to
    re afirm, that, i am a fruitcake,loon and whatever else the scared politicos’ would like to call me,and will support UKIP at every opportunity!!!Just because
    it has gone quiet does not mean support has gone away,just wait and see!!!

  88. 88
    Cllr. Brian Silvester, Cheshire East Council. says:

    No Conservative Minister will pledge to take us out if we vote out, so what is the point of an in/out EU referendum?

  89. 89
    Village Idiot says:

    …EU referendums are not like normal referendums in as much that if the result is not compatible with EU thinking,you will be made to have continuous referendum until the EU answer required,is achieved!!! Isn’t democracy ,EU style, great!!!!!1

  90. 90
    Anonymous says:

    You can’t force the other parties.

  91. 91
    Kicking The Can says:

    Brilliant. After forty years of lies and deceit we finally get a website.

  92. 92
    Anonymous says:

    A referendum from Cameron you must be joking

  93. 93
    davo says:

    Problem is, Davey, the smaller boys thought of it first, my old chummy. Being British and fair minded we would prefer to vote for the party who thought of it first and not someone who pretends that it’s their idea. Too little, too late, Cammy Wammy.

  94. 94
    Grimy Miner says:

    Mystic Mould

    If you were intending to use the binoculars to view the date that Dave Scameron intends to hold a referendum you have bought the wrong equipment. You should have invested in the Hubble Space Telescope, old boy.

  95. 95
    Anonymous says:

    How much lower can we sink

    As Churchill said in 45 “This is our finest hour”
    He was a proper statesman, unlike the present shower
    These sycophantic Europhiles have bought us to our knees
    Now Cameron’s asking Merkle “Can we have some power please”

    I need to go back with a ruse to stem the UKIP flood
    The whole backbench will rise as one baying for my blood
    They want a referendum, not tomorrow but today
    I need to claim a victory to keep them all at bay

    We’ll fill it all with weasel words to let you off the hook
    I know it’s smoke and mirrors but its how we make it look
    You need to help me out here Ange, as PM I must stay
    If I should lose then kiss goodbye to 50 Mill a day

    This UKIP mob have pulled the rug from underneath my feet
    If I can’t claim a victory here I’m staring at defeat
    This Ferage chaps percentage vote is going through the roof
    I just don’t understand it, all he does is tell the truth

    I’ve lied and cheated schemed and stalled and gave a cast iron vow
    The cat alas is out the bag and no one trusts me now
    It’s time for you and Rumpy to step up to the plate
    With false negotiation spin before it gets too late

  96. 96
    Anonymous says:

    The Tory Voting Song

    Jolly voting weather
    We are all Europhiles
    We’re very clever
    And lie to you all the while
    You fell for our promise especially the CAST IRON trick
    We’re all from Eton, and you lot are all too thick.

    If you think I’ll claim back powers,
    You haven’t got a clue
    We’ll hand the UK to Merkle,
    There is nothing that you can do
    No referendums Changes through on the nod
    I am the PM and I’m a duplicitous sod

    As for immigration
    I know it gets on your tits
    I will flood the nation
    And pay their benefits
    I am from Eton; I am one of the ruling class
    If you don’t like it, you can just kiss my ****

  97. 97
    Hang The Bostards says:

    We’re not fooled Dave…..

    You will simply hijack this with “Business says we need to be in the EU”…..

    You can see the script thats comming. Camoron you are a fraud.

  98. 98
    blondini says:

    Is this a result of the billionaire freemasons’ meeting, last weekend?
    What exactly were your instructions, Dave?
    Reel ‘em in slowly, slowly?

    What do you think you are doing, Dave?
    Where do you think you are going, Dave?

  99. 99
    Anonymous says:

    The Big Speech

    Dave, your long awaited speech
    Puts referendums out of reach
    We’ve not forgot the CAST IRON VOW
    And nobody believes you now
    So even if you makes it law
    No dice, we’ve heard it all before

    The Tory troops you try to muster
    All realise the speech is bluster
    Your hope to shoot the UKIP Fox
    Won’t surface in the ballot box
    Now UKIP’s got you on the ropes
    And blown away all Tory hopes

    We’re all fed up pissed off and grumpy
    Sick to death of Ange and Rumpy
    We do not want your EU flag
    To us it’s just a piece of rag
    We want our sovereignty back
    Our culture, laws and Union Jack

  100. 100
    Anonymous says:

    Cameron looking for face-saving miniscule tweaks to the EU budget so he can come back home looking as if he accomplished something.
    Well I keep posting this because it will come true shortly,
    Cameron WILL capitulate on the EU budget and British tax payers WILL stump up even more cash to the EU, There will of course be lots of posturing to give the impression that Cameron is dictating terms but its all bluster so dont be fooled.
    Cameron has claimed that Villans will NOT get the vote but he is allready talking of a fudge and some convicts WILL get the vote, so its even more bluster. His ploy is to throw the issue into the long grass instead of telling the ECHR to get stuffed
    Cameron will soon promise a referendum on the EU AFTER the next election and may well promise to put it into law. But there will be several caviates based on spurious renegotiations that will eventually deny an in/out referendum so do not fall for it.
    Cameron is a dyed in the wool Europhile and whilst his Eton cabal run the Tory party you will NEVER get out of the EU. And we can now look forward to vast numbers of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria who wil be entitled to benefits, housing, education and health care all at our expense.
    Remember this when your family allowance or disabillity is cut or granny has to sell her house

  101. 101
    The Public says:

    We’ve already decided.

    We just want our decision enacted.

    Out of the EU.

  102. 102
  103. 103
    Burghers are bad for you says:

    Just more data mining. Have you not been reading the snooping news lately?

  104. 104
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of jesus says:

    what m i saying ? there are no pubs in Lickeen obviously I meant Lahinch

  105. 105
    mad, swivel-eyed loon says:

    Much better than the usual standard.

  106. 106
    Burgers are bad for you says:

    That’ll learn you to buy cheap Chinese “genuine imitations” off the web.

  107. 107
    Everybody says:

    +1

  108. 108
    Angry frog says:

    Nope that didn’t work either. Why are some people so sensitive about their names? It was only the French word for angry!

    To repeat again once more..

    It gives us the excuse to start a proper rev*lution a la belle France

  109. 109
    Angry frog says:

    This was a response to No87 (the councillor at 10.14am)

  110. 110
    Jack the Ripper says:

    Cameron’s party took us into Europe. They have kept us in Europe. They will continue to do so. Voting for the Conservatives is like a man on chemo cuddling a plutonium hot water bottle.

  111. 111
    Schlieffen Plan says:

    If we had known it was this easy we could have saved millions of lives! Welcome to the new Greater Germany!

  112. 112
    The Public says:

    AV would have been the worst outcome of all.

    Anyway, whether it is PR or FPTP, we’d still be in a ‘parliamentary democracy’ in which MPs do what the feck they want, regardless of promises made (or the appearence of having been made), once every 5 years.

  113. 113
    Jimmy says:

    Don’t worry, as tory astroturf sites go, they have a lot to do to catch you up.

  114. 114
    I hate Hugh Grant cos he's a moron says:

    2017! to hell with that I want a vote BEFORE the next election not after


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