May 29th, 2013

Whips Accused of Career Threats During Gay Marriage Free Vote

There was plenty of speculation that the gay marriage vote was not quite as free as the party leaders would have us believe, though Guido was not expecting MPs, including a government PPS, to put such allegations in writing. A cross-party letter lobbying the Lords does just that:

The allegation of coercion was signed by Jim Paice, Edward Leigh, Glyn Davies, Fiona Bruce, Richard Drax, Jim Shannon, Tim Loughton, David Simpson, Jim Dobbin, Karl McCartney, Steward Jackson, Therese Coffey, David Burrows, Gerald Howarth and Craig Whittaker.

The full letter can be read here.

Guido is sure the Tory whips loved that one…


  1. 1
    Butch Dave says:

    Vote for Freedom or we’ll bum you to death.


  2. 2
    Wastrels says:

    Pity the cowards hadn’t the bottle to say it during the debate


    • 12
      Chairleg says:

      They are only putting this about in a last ditch attempt to save their skins: as cut off from reality as Dave, they are now realising that a total mistake they made voting for gay marriage, as all they have done is annoyed their supporters.


    • 15
      Quite scandalous really says:



      They could have stood up one by one in their four minute slot and announced the coercion they were under.


  3. 3
    Andrew Efiong says:

    I can’t help feel these MPs have their political careers behind them anyway. They’re on the wrong side of history, trying to block social changes that are inevitable.

    Relying on furtive letters sent to unelected Lords to do their dirtywork only shows how desperate they are.

    Well done to Guido for flushing out and naming these reactionary bores!


    • 13
      The British people says:

      fuck off arse bandit.


      • 49
        Andrew Efiong says:

        Polling shows most people support the plans.

        The fact that you resort to rudeness shows you’re on the run, ducking and diving from the argument because you’ve lost the case!


        • 58
          Anonymous says:

          I think that rather than support the change, most people just don’t care. I further think that Cameron has yeilded to pressure – as he does – from minority groups to introduce a bill which he thought would get him some brownie points with the nation. That worked well.


    • 17
      A Thought About 2015 says:

      A Parliament containing large numbers of people bent on real reform is not likely to leave the placemen in the Lords to carry on business as usual


    • 22
      Dedicated Follower of fashion says:

      Not inevitable at all.

      Homosexual marriage is just a passing fad. Twenty years from now people will be asking what the heck did the politicians think they were doing?


      • 26
        Ben Elton says:

        They said that about my jokes. Well, who’s laughing now?


      • 54
        Julie b says:

        I imagine gay marriage strengthens the case for polygamy and polyandry, both far more common than gay marriage historically .

        Guess who wants govt recognised polygamy and the endless bennies that will flow from it ? The religion of peace ?


    • 50
      Huw Rees says:

      “…wrong side of history” – and other such clichés. And just why are they inevitable? Because you want them to be? Is it inevitable that I can marry my sister in the future? Every time powers have changed laws pertaining to marriage over the last 40 years, society has been damaged. That is a fact. You would do well to realise that, even if you want to call your ‘boyfriend’ your ‘husband’, that hijacking a millenia-old institution will have dire repercussions.


      • 53
        Andrew Efiong says:

        So it’s all downhill since Henry VIII told the Pope to get lost and launched divorce laws?

        There never was a golden age of marriage. Arranged marriages, wife-beating, you name it, marriage is a strange institution! If gays want to sign up to it, let them. It doesn’t bother me what consenting adults do although clearly some on here want the State to intervene and licence some forms of marriage but forbid others. Very bossy!

        Marrying your sister sounds stupid rather than inevitable but then again I can’t speak for your desire to inbreed, can I?!!


        • 55
          Julie b says:

          Marriage doesn’t mean breed. Some people might marry their own siblings if it means they can avoid inheritance tax. Marriage won’t really mean anything by then anyway . Just fill out a form and you’re quids in !

          I could marry a man, die, he marries my son, then dies . I’ve passed my inheritance to my son without the govt getting it’s paws on any !


        • 65
          Anon says:

          It doesn’t bother me either, that Gays get married… What fascinates me is the stupidly of pursuing it, fomenting hatred quite unnecessarily, instead of ensuring totality of equal rights under a civil partnership.


    • 60
      Little Black Sambo says:

      “They’re on the wrong side of history, trying to block social changes that are inevitable.”


  4. 4
    Wikipedia says:

    The first laws in modern times enabling same-sex marriage were enacted during the first decade of the 21st century. As of May 2013, thirteen countries (Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, South Africa, Sweden), and several sub-national jurisdictions (parts of Mexico and the United States), allow same-sex couples to marry. Uruguay and New Zealand have both enacted laws to legalize same-sex marriage which will come into force in August 2013.[7][8] Bills allowing legal recognition of same-sex marriage have been proposed, are pending, or have passed at least one legislative house in Andorra, Colombia, Finland, Germany, Ireland, Luxembourg, Nepal, Taiwan, and the United Kingdom, as well as in the legislatures of several sub-national jurisdictions (in Scotland as well as parts of Australia, Mexico, and the United States).


    • 27
      The terror to come says:

      No muzzie lands, I see.


    • 37
      Not homophobic, but this is simply wrong says:

      A very collectivist argument.

      So, by extension, if all of those countries pass legislation for compulsory euthanasia at age 40 the UK should put that through as well on the basis that everyone else has ?

      You can take that argument and seriously shove it where the gay marriage mongs want to shove the marriage certificates.


  5. 6
    Anonymous says:

    What makes you think its the Tory whips they’re referring to?


  6. 7
    Gwweedo is a knob says:

    Hey Greedo,

    How did your anti-EDL post go?

    Didn’t get the reaction that you thought you would?

    You have become the online version of Ian Hislop.


    • 30
      Today program says:

      We ran with it, plus lots of words like ‘extreem right wing’, ‘far right’ ect.


      • 52
        Gwweedo is a knob says:

        The fact that most members of the EDL come from traditional Labour voting families is lost on them.

        The best bit is, they now hate NuLabour but would never vote Tory, so they’re going straight to UKIP.


  7. 8
    Bender Boy Dave says:

    The Recovery goes from strength to strength. Rejoice!

    ‘British retail sales fell this month at their fastest pace in more than a year, a survey by the Confederation of British Industry showed on Wednesday.’

    What we need is some incredible, staged Muzzie terror attack and a global war in Syria with Russia and China, to cover up the dual national bankers having robbed all the money.


  8. 9
  9. 11
    Anonymous says:

    Because the signatories have no incentive to lie over this, oh no.


  10. 16
    Moonraker says:

    Richard Drax? Wasn’t he a Bond villain?


  11. 18
    The BBC says:

    In response to News Corporation, we’re going to spend £95 million on a new BBC logo.

    Which we’ll then abandon.


  12. 20
    Owen Jones says:

    I’ll be able to marry my boyfriend soon.


  13. 23
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    Has someone been telling lies?


  14. 28
    Get rich quick on "Green" subsidies. says:

    I see the greens have a splendid idea, well cash cow subsidy really. To chop down the North American forests, pulverise the wood, form it into pellets, send it to Europe (drax for one) and burn the pellets to generate electricity.

    Madness really when all they had to do was burn local coal and let the trees now cut down absorb the CO2 produced. But that’s green subsidies for you.


  15. 32
    Tosspot says:

    Britain has never given in to Blackmail but it would seem some spineless MPs do and have, Those who do not have the courage of their convictions and would not stand up to Pressure, have no place in any Parliament representing the Views of the Voters.

    I would think a threatened desertion to UKIP with a guarantee of re election in 2015, would be enough to send any whip the right message.

    It would seem that Gutless, Spineless Flim-flam has filtered down from the Leadership and infected quite a few.


    • 39
      ℬilly ℬotty ℬoy of Lower ℬumshire says:

      Well I’m clear dear, my test came back only the other week so I’ve been enjoying lots of bareback with hunky Dave. :)


    • 42
      The EU puts aborted fetus in baby formula says:

      After the past weeks performance from Dave, those MPs are probably kicking themselves for not having the backbone to do what was right.

      Those that voted against their better instincts and constituents views are finished.


  16. 38
    Gonk III says:

    Edward Leigh is an excellent chap. A true patriot and democrat who should always be in high office and probably will after Dave has fucked off.


    • 51
      Anonymous says:

      He may well be a patriot, democrat and excellent chap but he is also unfortunately, a left-footer, which means he’s an untrustworthy shit.


  17. 46
    Hertford and Stortford says:

    So what did they threaten Mark Prisk MP with? He didn’t even bother to vote.


  18. 47
    Penfold says:

    Yet another Brussels inspired fiasco.

    So, if Call me Dave is a europhobe, why did he bring in this legislation, knowing that it would cause ructions.
    Because he was told to do so by the Brussels mafiosi.

    No doubt Clueless Clegg was helpful, as ever, ensuring that he can get himself onto the gravy train in Brussels, when he’s finally thrown out by the Lumpen Proletariats


  19. 66
    dogleg says:

    The homosexual groups have risen to enormous power in just a few decades. Where they have got this power from? Hasn’t anyone ever questioned it?
    It’s nothing at all to do with “social change”. This has been planned for a long long time. The apathy of people and their “couldnt care less” attitudes to moral standards has now allowed for the flourishing of these groups.
    Its nowt to do with “equality” either. These people want to dominate the world. These people want your children to undergo “diversity training”, so that they are brainwashed into accepting that bum sex is normal and desirable, that families can consist of any old mix and match of genders; that marriage is all theirs now because it has been “de-gendered”.

    Children in Sweden are already referred to as “it” before they have reached a certain age.

    Gays have taken over the American Boy Scouts and no doubt all the filthy perverted Man-Boy Love types are leaping up and down with glee, not believing their luck.

    Those banging on about “moving with the times” and “inevitable social change”…….ok, you move with the times and see where it will get you. You haven’t seen the depths of depravity yet in this situation.

    And, going back to the original article, these MPs have bravely stood their ground and exposed wrong-doings and coercion. Twenty years ago they’d have been applauded. Now people sneer at them. Hell, we really have sunk further in the shit than people realise.


  20. 67
    John Tandy says:

    Does not suprise me in th slightest…..


  21. 68
    John Tandy says:

    Whips practising for the 2017 in/out EU vote ????


  22. 69
    Lord Dingaling of Effingham says:

    I will happily vote for gay marriage when Heterosexuals get equal rights.
    Homosexual couples will be able to choose Civil Partnerships, Marriage or both.
    Heterosexual couples cannot.
    That’s not equality it’s prejudice.


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