May 17th, 2013

Labour Won’t Pledge to Repeal ‘Bedroom Tax’

Well this is hardly going to help improve Baldamort’s status as a Labour pariah in lefty circles. After all his party’s truth-stretching moralising, the Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary has refused to commit to repealing the spare room subsidy:

“We are not going to make promises we can’t keep. I believe very strongly that this is a tax that will cost more than it saves, but I know I have to prove that beyond reasonable doubt and that is the research that I am doing now to gather evidence from across the country. We hear of houses lying empty because people can’t afford the tax that would hit them if they moved in, so obviously it does not make sense. We have to work through our position as fast as we can, but no one will forgive us for making promises we can’t keep.”

Still peddling the bedroom ‘tax’ lie, but not saying he would repeal it. So much for Owen Jones’ “People’s Assembly” against t’cuts: he can’t even win the argument in his own party…


151 Comments

  1. 1
    Eleanor Jackson says:

    Let’s ban the whole universe so as not to offend muslims.

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    • 5
      Lord Stansted says:

      What about the universe of anti-matter, or the many universes of Everett’s model of quantum mechanics?

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    • 7
      LABOUR IS OFF ITS ED says:

      Why haven’t you replied to my e-mail, you ugly, smug, anti-English tw*t?

      I’ll give you until tomorrow, and will only accept a delay if you are seeing the Country’s top Plastic Surgeon.

      Hit by every branch of every tree in the ugly forest – etc -

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    • 16
      Professor Calculus says:

      My own studies show that according to zero point energy theory, even after the banning of everything there will still remain a thingy that someone somehwere will say potentially offends Muslims. That someone is usually a member of what is called, without irony, the Labour party – aka a fucking loon.

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      • 101
        Sir Bumley Foghorn MP (Much Ranting in the Shires) says:

        Of course it is a member of the Labour Party. The infinite improbability drive has already used its full fuel allowance in creating Parker Farage.

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    • 21
      Brigadier Ritchie Hook says:

      I’ve just come back from six months doing the exact opposite!

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    • 131
      Stu says:

      Why not just ban Muslims? Simpler for all of us.

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  2. 2
    geordieboy says:

    When is a Tax not a Tax?
    When it is a Benefit Cut

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    • 3
      Ivor Ramsbottom says:

      Yes it is a tax. Im paying tax for someone else’s spare bedroom.

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      • 105
        Sir Bumley Foghorn MP (Much Ranting in the Shires) says:

        It is really very simple. This policy has nothing to do with tax. Getting rid of spare bedrooms gives Little Willie Hague an excuse when he is discovered sharing a room with a bit of rough.

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    • 41
      Mr Helpful says:

      This should clear it up.

      I give you £100 every week. I do this for 10 years.

      After 10 years, I give you £90 every week.

      Has there been a reduction in the amount of money I give you, or are you paying an extra £10 per week in tax?

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      • 49
        Ben. E. Fitz says:

        The very fact that the £100 is not nor never was index linked to the inflation rate of Zimbabwe is in itself a tragedy of justice.

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        • 70
          i just don't get it says:

          When my mother-in law was widowed and her kids all left home she could no longer afford to pay for or heat her large privately owned house.
          So she sold up and moved somewhere smaller.
          Why should people in council properties be any different?

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      • 76
        Kindergarten maths says:

        On,y if the 100 quid was a tax rebate but it is not its a benefit

        Get it now?

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    • 75
      BBC balanced news team says:

      When is a tax not a tax

      When we say it isn’t but everything the nasty baby eaters do will be called a tax. Err except the telly tax which is fair and should be doubled

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    • 137
      efrem zimbalist jr says:

      very good fivebellie…..

      that was nearly humorous…..

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    • 150
      Never trust a politican (whichever colour their rosette) says:

      The way to beat the Bedroom Tax isn’t to support a political party advocating its withdrawal or making populist noises in opposition. It’s to refuse payment and then collectively resist the attentions of bailiff scum when they come knocking.

      That’s how resistance to foreclosures and the like is being successfully resisted in countries like Spain, and that’s what needs to happen here.

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  3. 4
    LABOUR IS OFF ITS ED says:

    That man is a first class, lying, scumbag, who wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped him in the face.

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  4. 6
    Liam Byrne in 2010 says:

    “There’s no money left.”

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  5. 8
    Leftie rent-a-mob says:

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  6. 12
    Gonk III says:

    Stocks should be brought back into use for men like Byrne.
    The satisfaction would be substituting a rock hard potato
    for a rotten tomato

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    • 25
      Lord Duckhouse of Pondlife says:

      Or a rock-hard rock.

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    • 107
      Sir Bumley Foghorn MP (Much Ranting in the Shires) says:

      I always believe in extracting maximum benefit from any situation. Place Byrne in the stocks and then invite Fox and Hague around. If they can resist the sight of Byrne restrained in that position they can have my vote for gay marriage as a quid pro quo.

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  7. 13
    Jim says:

    arseholes the lot of ‘em

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    • 20
      Spartacus says:

      you mean intellectuals of the left

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      • 52
        Four-eyed English Genius says:

        intellectuals of the left = oxymoron.

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        • 58
          Duty Pedant says:

          Well as intellectual is a relative word it could work.

          Say relative to protoplasm or smegma

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        • 110
          An honest Tory says:

          Never underestimate the opposition. The three best minds amongst Brits today: Hawking, Penrose and Wolfram (in reverse order) are all Labour supporters.

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          • kitler says:

            Hawkins is over rated. His books were just popular science for the coffee table and were very much of the ‘big bang theory is fact and all other theories must not be discussed’ commie mentality. His theories are not exactly Einsteinian either. Hawkins Radiation might exist but conveniently can never be tested and is of no industrial benefit to anyone ever.

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          • An honest Tory says:

            Please take a physics degree before spouting crap (although I would rate Penrose and Wolfram more highly).

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  8. 14
    I wonder why? says:

    Report from the Smith Institute claiming kids are doing less exercise in schools being pushed on the BBC.
    Funnily enough the BBC failed to mention the Smith Institute is a left-wing think tank with links to the Labour Party.

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    • 24
      BBC News Editor says:

      We never reveal our sources.

      P.S. Do you really think we go outside and get the news?

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      • 78
        Labourunionsbbc = EU says:

        Unless it’s anybody at all who are not lefties, then we always say a right, or more often, a far right source.

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    • 29
      Lord Duckhouse of Pondlife says:

      “Funnily enough the BBC failed to mention the Smith Institute is a left-wing think tank with links to the Labour Party.”

      So it’s a bit like the BBC itself, then?

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    • 51
      Flashman says:

      Is truancy up then?

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    • 79
      Curly says:

      Did anyone ever get to the bottom of their funding – if you see what I mean?

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    • 83
      Desk top ink well says:

      All the money goes on translators thee days rather than Skool sports

      They have to teach the little bleeders to speak the English before they can teach them proper stuff like how to claim benefits and have sex at 5 3/4 years old.

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      • 96
        Watcher says:

        And even the white ones, if they don’t want to play games have only to say no. And then the teacher’s only response now is ‘well I might have to call your parents and see if they will allow me to ask you to attend an extra special tuition lesson after school’s normal finishing time’. And that fails if they can’t get hold of the parent. There is no way of enforcing any form of discipline in state schools.

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        • 142
          BBC Watcher says:

          I’ve been watching a lot of BBC programmes recently, and I can tell you for a fact that all children in British schools nowadays are in fact black.

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    • 112
      An honest Tory says:

      Where is the surprise. Of course they do less exercise in school. The only way to get kids playing cricket and rugby today is through the club network – the schools no longer run teams.

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      • 144
        Curly says:

        … that’s because so many of their playing fields were sold off for housing estates.

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  9. 16
    Bluto says:

    “I know I have to prove that beyond reasonable doubt”

    Is he planning to prosecute someone? Can we look forward to another Labour government promulgated on criminalising as many Englishmen as possible?

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    • 27
      Keir Starmer says:

      Why? I never had to.

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    • 87
      Lying left , it says what it does on the porkie pie says:

      “I know I have to prove that beyond reasonable doubt”

      Never ever bothered a single member of the Labour Party, the trade Union leaders, the lefties or the BBC in the past so why now?

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  10. 18
    S P 4 B S says:

    When he says “this is a tax that will cost more than it saves”.

    Well, that would only be the case if the consequences weren’t thought through properly, it was half arsed and needed all sorts of exceptions, and was more aimed at making it look like something was done, than actually doing anything.

    Which clearly would never be the case.

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  11. 26

    Why not just hang a flag with a white crescent on a red ground outside each council property having an unused room signifying that any member of the one true faith may automatically apply for free accommodation?

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  12. 30
    A typical working person says:

    I have a 4 bed house with 2 bedrooms now vacant now that the sprogs have left. If I suddenly realise that I can no longer afford the mortgage because my earnings are less than what they used to be (e.g redundancy) is this then a bedroom tax?

    I will then have to try and sell my house and purchase something more affordable.

    All because as a working person with a mortgage I am entitled to FUCK ALL so why aren’t others also entitled to the same?

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    • 38
      Pawn Sandwich says:

      M8, just knock a couple of walls down and have a two bedroom house with massive bedrooms. No planning permission reqd as far as I am aware.

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      • 39
        A typical working person says:

        But my mortgage will not get any smaller !

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        • 46
          Pawn Sandwich says:

          If those walls that you knock down are load bearing then you won’t have to pay any mortgage at all.

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          • Pearl neclesse says:

            Prawn… You appear to believe that if you vandalise your own property that you no longer have to pay your mortgage.

            Dunn

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        • 54
          Mr Helpful says:

          If your house has a cellar, you could convert the cellar into a dungeon. Then, stop paying your mortgage. Then, when people from the mortgage company come round to complain, you could invite them down to your ‘cellar’ to show them something very interesting (you could tell them their money’s down there), BUT it is of course a dungeon, and the mortgage people never see the light of day again.

          There you go, that’s the mortgage problem solved. Next, income. If you live in a terraced house, you could knock a small hole in the wall so that at night you could crawl through into your neighbour’s house and help yourself to any food and wine they keep in their kitchen, and nick the odd £20 from their wallet. You could use the same hole in the wall to feed a mains lead from one of their sockets through to your house, thus reducing your electricity bill to zero.

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          • Ariel Castro says:

            I had such an arrangement in the cellar of a house in Cleveland, Ohio. Call me if I can be of any assistance in setting one up. I regret it will have to be by webcam, as my presence is unavoidably indefinitely required elsewhere.

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          • Max Mosley says:

            Yay !

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  13. 35
    Bedroom Benefit says:

    If it is a bedroom tax, then do I get a bedroom benefit for paying additional 25% council tax as a single occupier in a 1 bedroom house?

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    • 90
      Lying left , it says what it does on the porkie pie says:

      Sorry that is a sensible question as well as being true hence we cannot allow this to be mentioned.

      I shall make sure the BBC leave it off the airwaves as well

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  14. 36
    Mr Pedant says:

    “has refused to commit to repealing the spare room subsidy”

    You mean restoring the spare room subsidy, surely?

    (And it’s “Owen Jones’s People’s Assembly”, not “Owen Jones’”.

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    • 149
      LEGO design shop says:

      Our market research says “Owen Jones” figures are unpopular.
      Kids get more enjoyment out of tearing Owen Jones apart.

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  15. 40
    Ron Barras says:

    Labour need to make their mind up, are they the party that takes our money to give it to people with spare rooms or are they the party of the workers?

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    • 66
      Hypocrisy has always been good for Labour says:

      They are the party of the rich millionaire offspring of left wing academics who live in the leafy suburbs of Primrose Hill and who have never done a decent days work in their lives leaving their private school straight to university at Oxford or Cambridge followed on graduation by a researchers job for the unions or Labour Party or working for the BBC/Guardian as an intern before becoming a Labour MP and thence to shadow cabinet..and power. It’s been the same for the past 30 odd years and the actual “workers” still fall for all the guff about the Labour Party being on the side of the workers…total mugs. The shadow Cabinet are richer than the so called posh Tory Boys

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    • 68
      tanzanite aka nell says:

      ‘Labour the party of the workers’ ++++Laugh++++

      Labour hasn’t been a party for the working classes since 1997!! . I suppose they could call themselves the Welfare Benefit Party though in truth they are more a LineourownPockets Party!!!!

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  16. 44
    Primrose Hill Times says:

    Apparently Justine Miliband is getting randy, Ed Miliband refuses to have sex. “I’m not going to adopt a position before 2015″ says Labour’s weirdo leader.

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    • 48
      Justine says:

      He’s also never been able to come to the point.

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      • 55
        Chris Huhne says:

        I heard a good joke while I was in chokey …

        Who is the only 20st person to have ridden a Derby winner?

        Lester Pigotts cellmate

        LOL – I shouldn’t laugh as it hurts my sphincter muscles which haven’t healed quite yet.

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  17. 45
    A Resident says:

    The government should abolish the ‘friendship tax’. I see no reason why friends of mine should have to pay to park in front of my home.

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  18. 47
    Owen Farage-Jones says:

    Right that’s it then !

    I’m offloading several thousand tons of gold,I’ve had enough.

    Gordon Brown was right to sell.

    GOLD 1,368.00 -18.90 -1.36%

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    • 60
      I told you this morning.. says:

      He sold 400 tonnes at $249.

      What’s the price now?

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      • 74
        Owen Farage-Jones says:

        GOLD 1,360.10 -26.80 -1.93%

        And falling like a stone !!!!

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      • 81
        Down Shep says:

        $1368 ?.

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        • 113
          Owen Farage-Jones says:

          Gold bears are dominant again after prices resumed their slump and billionaire George Soros joined investors selling holdings in exchange-traded products that have retreated to a two-year low.

          I rest my case.

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          • Down Shep says:

            They have been falling from record highs because certain cash strapped EU countries have been selling their reserves off (under orders from Herr Oberleutnant Merkel), don’t know what the point you are trying to make of it all though. Chinese will be lapping it up.

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          • Gold Watch says:

            Manipulation of paper gold.

            JPY money printing heading to moon at moment. Look at the Nikkei.

            Physical price is higher, and the published will start going up a bit later this year. :-)

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          • Pearl neclesse says:

            I love gold bears….

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  19. 56
    Brown Out & pay me damages. Respect my legal rights. I want nothing to do with the bullying, exploitive, spineless, cowardly pathetic fuck. says:

    I think everyone should jog on. This is pathetic & pointless waste of time. It is fucking sad that no one can a spare room! Jeeez! Take a fucking look at yourselves.

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    • 59
      A Taxpayers Teat says:

      Anyone can have a spare room ….

      1. Someone who has a mortgage – although bigger houses generally cost more

      2. Someone who has the property ultimately provided by a taxpayer – why should the taxpayer pay for someone else’s privilege?

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  20. 61
    The Labour Party Strategy says:

    We rely on the Tory Party to come into government after us; take the tough decisions and sort out the financial mess left by us whilst we have a period in opposition jumping on every popular bandwagon, criticising every attempt to sort out our mess whilst promising our supporters unachievable, unaffordable and unsustainable spending promises to fool them into voting for us again. When we return to government we always continue with the policies that the Tories introduced explaining to our gullibale voters that now is not the right time to reverse them

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  21. 62
    Old Codger says:

    Before everyone owned their own mortgage, anyone with a spare bedroom took in a lodger. This would bring in an income and avoid a tax. What is the problem?

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  22. 63
    David Cameron says:

    Poor Rafa Benitez. He won the Europa league and led Chelsea to a respectable finish in the premipership. Well if he can’t keep his job, then what chance do I have?

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  23. 64
    BBC quick hide the truth protect St Ed and the lefties says:

    This is why these LAbour arsehols should never ever get in power again

    They label something a tax that isn’t scare the shit out of a lot of vulnerable people all for political ends and then would not repeal.

    They are utter utter fucking scumbags all of them

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    • 73
      Tony Blair says:

      I agree.
      I found them to be a bunch of small minded, petty, squabbling imbeciles.
      And the less said about the smell of them the better.

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    • 77
      Oatcake says:

      Is it me, or are Labour voters ret8rded ?

      Vote for me said the Labour candidate in Stoke & you can have gas & water in the same pipe.

      You know what? The ‘tards believed him and Stoke is STILL a Labour strong-hold (mostly due to the thousands of p*kkies & p0l..e.s allowed to settle in the City.

      You hardly ever hear English spoken there now.

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      • 85
        Oatcake says:

        P.s. Tristram Hunt, Lord Fondlebum’s bestest friend won the seat at the last election and he had never set foot in Stoke.

        Pps. It’s a smelly shytehole now. Thanks Labour, thanks a lot!

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        • 121
          The 5 Towns a place of historic beauty says:

          I swear to God that there still WW2 bombsites in Stoke

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      • 93
        Labour's voters are subhuman scum says:

        No, it’s not just you.

        “Labour sent out ‘search parties’ for immigrants to get them to come to the UK, Lord Mandelson has admitted. He also conceded that the influx of arrivals meant the party’s traditional supporters are now unable to find work.”

        And yet, the retards still support Labour.

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        • 99
          Raving Loon says:

          Most people I know who support Labour are usually either:

          -extremely f**king thick
          -naive
          -a combination of the above
          -a wannabe despot better suited to North Korea

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        • 109
          bergen says:

          That was why Labour was so in favour of comprehensive education. They needed their core vote to remain poor , uneducated and on welfare to guarantee their support.

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      • 95
        Curly says:

        Last time I was in Stoke was several years ago – and even then I could not understand a word of what was said to me. Quoi de neuf?

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        • 100
          This moniker may contain some flash photography says:

          I’ve never been to Stoke, so I just took a little ‘tour’ on Google streetview – what a f*cking dump! Check out the shops in Glebe St (A52) in the town centre.

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          • Edwin Clayhanger says:

            I fear you are being too kind….the best thing about Stoke and its environs is the A500 by-pass that goes straight through the centre

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          • Ex-pat says:

            My car broke down whilst trying to leave Stoke once. Not nice!

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          • Urban Planner says:

            This could be a good game – armed with Google Streetview, where is THE GROTTIEST STREET in Britain???

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  24. 86
    Owen Jones. Labour. says:

    Fascist scum get off our internet!

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  25. 88
    Taxfodder says:

    The Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary is just as useless as the real Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary……only twice as nasty.

    Neither of them could run a bath they bought on expenses without drowning themselves in the process.

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  26. 98
    Anonymous says:

    Public sector pensions face big hit

    This’ll have the bastards out on strike……….

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    • 103
      EU Watch says:

      Unless public finances are repaired, primarily by cutting unnecessary EU expenses and getting out of the tax arbitrage shambles, then public sector pensions will be hit.

      That is locked in.

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    • 111
      They didn't strike when Brown destroyed private sector pensions says:

      I hope they do go on strike.

      When they strike, we don’t have to pay them.

      And it’s not like anyone notices when they do go on strike.

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  27. 102
    Watcher says:

    Meanwhile, in another part of town, all the mainstream media lap up the McCann’s latest PR stunt as they continue to live their guilt and make taxpayers fund it.
    Brown cronies of course…

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    • 108
      SP4 BS says:

      so “people who write for newspapers” (*) write stuff that sells newspapers.

      (*) I won’t use that word that one might chose by mistake.

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      • 116
        Watcher says:

        What one looks back to is the days when journalists actually went out to find their own stories. There are of course a few notable exceptions. But this straight reprinting of press releases started in the 1980s, if not before and is highly regressive. No wonder the old media (including their web sites) face extinction.

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  28. 104
    Rolf Harris is innocent says:

    They are going to have a bigger shock when they realise the number of taxpayers paying tax is dwindling.

    Joe Public is waking up to what PLcs have known for years: only idiots stay around to pay high taxes.

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  29. 114
    Margaret Hodge says:

    I’m honest. You can put your discretionary trust in me.

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  30. 115
    I hate Blue Labour says:

    Guess that’s any chance of the child benefit thievery being reversed gone too? Vote UKIP.

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  31. 117
    Owen Jones says:

    I thought to myself, “How could anyone with a thinking mind take my Northern teenage crude Leftism seriously”?

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  32. 118
    Owin Jones says:

    I thought to myself, “How could anyone with a thinking mind take my Northern teenage crude Leftism seriously”?

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  33. 120
    The voices in my head says:

    Hit Lyam Byrne, hit Liam Byrne, hit Lyam Byrne, hit Lyam Byrne.

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  34. 125
    i don't n eed no doctor says:

    How will Lyam Byrne calculate the revenue from the bedroom tax if the tax is not being collected by HMRC, because it is not a tax? No wonder there was no money left.

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  35. 128
    Fog says:

    Aren’t we in a strange post-democratic place, when the EU, Hodge and others use the implements of the state to intimidate businesses and people?

    However you view the oil companies, why were there ‘raids on their offices by the EU’ – what did that mean? Why did the media make no attempt to explain ‘raids’ on business premises.

    Then there are the dawn raids to ‘arrest’ aged suspects.

    Who gave the EU authority to ‘raid’ and Hodge and her committee to conduct Stasi-like interrogations?

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    • 145
      FYI says:

      Agreed. The oilcos should just tell the Eu nosey buggers to piss off and stop trespassing on their property. The real reason that petrol prices are so high is the addition of 100% govt tax on the product. Oil trading middle men and speculators control the basic price of oil as most of it only costs pence per gallon to get out of the ground these days.

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  36. 130
    Iain Spunk'n'Sniff says:

    Does anyone have any free Spurs tickets I could scrounge off them? Executive boxes only. Please send them to my wife’s massive mansion (where I live rent free), along with £17 of taxpayers money for my breakfast. Oh and please don’t point out what a massive hypocrite I am because my wife’s ill and it might upset her. Thanks.

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    • 146
      FYI says:

      The reason she is ill is because she has recently discovered after all these years that you a Spurs supporter (or maybe just a glory-hunter?).

      You lying snake in the grass – she thought you supported Brentford.

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  37. 136
    neitherdeadnoralive says:

    Labour can say or do anything they want; there are enough brain dead morons in the UK who will vote for them, no matter what !!! When I hear people say “my dad voted Labour, and my granddad voted Labour, so I will aswell”, my heart sinks………

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  38. 138
    history teacher says:

    the statement may admit ‘we haven’t a clue….and therefore,just in case….we’d better wait and see’

    this may be a relatively honest admission

    there is such a raft of arbitrary inconsistent even conflicting rules in ‘benefits’ that one has to peel the onion in order to find which ones did work and to what extent

    onion peeling has its consequences

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  39. 140
    Guffaws says:

    Labour haven’t got a clue. They’ve got no principles and still can’t admit Gordon Brown was a disaster.

    Ed Miliband? What a plonka!

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  40. 151
    Labour hypocrite says:

    I challenge all in the Labour party to contact HMRC and ask them if they have any information on the so called bedroom tax. They will direct you towards your local housing benefit office or the DWP…..that’s because IT’S NOT A BEDROOM TAX you Labour party muppets !

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