May 17th, 2013

Hodge the Dodge: Spot the Difference

Compare and contrast Margaret Hodge’s holier-than-thou hectoring for not answering questions with her own non-answers in her Kay Burley interview yesterday. Here is Hodge berating Amazon’s Andrew Cecil at the Public Accounts Committee:

“Well, I think what we are going to have to do is order somebody to come who can give us answers to the questions we ask. We will order somebody to appear before us who does that. It is just not acceptable. I don’t know what you take us for, but we need proper answers to perfectly proper questions, which are trying to establish the economic activity in this country, and therefore what would be a reasonable corporation tax due. That is our job. The idea that you come here and simply do not answer the questions, and pretend ignorance, is just not on. It is awful… I cannot believe you have come without the information-or they have deliberately sent you. We will order somebody who can answer the questions, in public… Dear, dear. Well, we will have to come back to this.”

And here is Hodge’s humiliating exchange on SkyNews yesterday:

MH: I’m not, I’m not, I told you, I’m not, I haven’t, you know I don’t have any dealings with the company day to day.

KB: But you did say that you were confident that every penny that should be paid in tax has been paid in tax. You’ve obviously looked into it?

MH: Yes, I’m confident.

KB: And 0.01% is enough?

MH: No it isn’t 0.01, it’s what they pay, what they pay, the profits they make on the business they transact in the UK.

KB: And how much is that as a percentage of tax?

MH: I, I, I mean I can’t give you that answer.

KB: But you did say that every penny has been paid in tax so presumably you have the figures?

MH: Sorry?

KB: You did say that every penny they should pay in tax has been paid…

MH: I, I also said to you I don’t work for that business. I’m a shareholder. I think you should ask the company if you have any questions.

“Dear, dear. We will have to come back to this”…


95 Comments

  1. 1
    Feel the Enrichment says:

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    • 21
      Paniagua v3 says:

      I presume that is why the nightclubs around Streatham are full of trash?

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    • 39
      i don't n eed no doctor says:

      Ummuna, you are so clearance rack.

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    • 40
      Maqb­oul says:

      So that’s where all de rastafarians went to innit.

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    • 68
      A Fohma Lambeff Resident says:

      If you go down Accra way,
      Any evening any day,
      You’ll see us all doing the Accra Walk!

      Everything nice and easy
      Do as we damn well pleasey
      Why don’t you make your way here?
      Come here– stay here!

      Once you come down Accra way
      Every evening every day
      You’ll find yourself doing the Accra Walk– HOY!

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    • 75
      Penfold says:

      Have they signed off from benefits?
      Legally you cannot receive JSA and other benefits whilst outside the UK.
      Chukus will have to dob them all in……………….

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      • 86
        Hodge the Dodges erudite reply to questioning says:

        Hodge at 1:36

        ‘I would suggest to you…I’m not,….I’m not…I told you…. I’m not,…… I don’t…. I haven’t, …..you know,…. I don’t have any dealings with the company on day to day’

        Well glad you cleared that up then. NOT .

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  2. 2
    Nice says:

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  3. 3
    Google says:

    Pathetic

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  4. 4
    V1le, vicious Labour ruined my Country says:

    Clear evidence of a Tax Hodge here.

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  5. 5
    Dave says:

    i can’t stand Kay Burley, horrible person but lol at this interview. squirming Hodge.

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  6. 6
    Welshracer says:

    Simple solution is to sell the shares and spend the money on yourself, you can’t take it with you to the grave.

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    • 65
      Mars Attacks says:

      Because if she did, it would burn. Even if she’s buried……..

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    • 91
      Eeyore says:

      Guido – PLEASE keep at this one. Once the MSM catch up (ie plagiarise your work) Hodge will be toast.

      Hypocritical mother of calves…

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  7. 7
    retardEd Miliband says:

    I am tewwibly welaxed about multimillionaire tax-dodgers working in my thadow cabinet.

    Oh yeth.

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  8. 8
    Tiny tiny tiny Labour IOU to Co-Op says:

    She could avoid a lot of flak if she stumped up some cash to help pay off Ed Balls’ rather large tab for the party at the Co-Op.

    Just sayin’

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  9. 11
    Vicky Pollard nee Hodge says:

    Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but, yeah but Ed stole it from me but thats nothing because he fingered Yvette on the swings round the back of the school…

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  10. 12
    Margaret Hodge says:

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  11. 13
    Labour: Still corrupt, still nasty says:

    The phoney indignation she feigns at the committee is hilarious. She just wants to make the headlines and get some attention, the evil, slimy, lying, crooked c-unt.

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    • 35
      Mitch says:

      Her performance is cringe-worthy enough. But to then be found out as playing exactly the same game with tax is tantamount to corruption. No – it IS corruption.

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    • 41
      Gonk III says:

      These select committees are nothing more than career advancement vehicles for pathetic, grasping over ambitious wanker MPs, mostly composed of the former gravel voiced junior ministers hanging on to the vestiges of power or eager young lick -spittles who’d caress any wrinkled old arse to get on. Phew !

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  12. 14
    Alan Qatada says:

    I have approx. 17,089% more respect for Kay Burley after seeing this interview.

    I think we all know this wouldn’t have happened on the BBC…

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  13. 15
    The Co-Op Banks - "Good with Oversrafts" says:

    We’ve just been approached by Ed Balls MP who has convinced us he can pay off Labour’s 3.9 million overdraft. Tomorrow morning we will approve a 4 million pound loan. Plan B we’re calling it!

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    • 24

      Good idea.
      Someone’s got to test this borrowing your way out of debt theory.
      Might as well be the Co-Op.

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      • 27
        Leftie Scientist says:

        I theorise that a balloon can be inflated infinitely without bursting

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      • 34
        Ed Balls says:

        Look the maths are simple look.

        We owe £97m

        I borrow £100m from bank A
        I borrow £100m from bank B

        I pay the £97m back

        I pay bank A £1m back
        I pay bank B £1m back

        I keep £1m for myself

        I only owe £98m now but I borrowed £100m and kept £1m for myself

        RESULT !!!

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        • 36
          George Osborne says:

          Sounds good – tell me again?

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        • 45

          Hang on. Total borrowed, 297 million, total paid off 100 million. Total outstanding debt 197 million. You are supremely qualified to be a Socialist Chancellor, Ed.

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          • Ed Balls says:

            Debt is not subject to legitimate expectation.

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          • Ed Balls says:

            Sorry got the numbers wrong

            What I meant was this only proved to us by our lovely daughter.

            Daughter wants a dress for £97

            She borrows £50 from me and £50 from Yvette. She buys the dress, leaving £3

            She gives me £1 back and Yvette £1 back – so she owes £98 plus the £1 she has kept = £99

            Where has the extra £1 gone?

            (spoiler – Len has it)

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        • 60
          Labour Accountants says:

          You may want to check your figures Ed.

          We calculate that you only owe £96m !

          Result: You took our debt down by £1m and made yourself £1m !

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  14. 16
    Labour: Still corrupt, still nasty says:

    Google = useful.

    Hodge = evil.

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  15. 17
    Moussa Koussa Mark 10 says:

    Oh here we go !!!!

    5 threads about Hodge for the next 2 years…yawn

    Guido…has the Tax man knocked on your door yet….dont worry he will be

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    • 19
      Labour: Still corrupt, still nasty says:

      “We’re perfectly relaxed about people becoming filthy rich.”

      Peter Mandelson

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      • 42
        And yet mongs STILL vote Labour. says:

        “We sent out search parties to find immígrants and get them to come to the UK. Of course, the influx of arrivals means the party’s traditional supporters are now unable to find work.”

        – Peter Mandelson.

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    • 25
      Point of Information says:

      Hodge’s tax affairs are not a problem, she is not doing anything illegal.

      Her recent rhetoric and expressed ideology is a major problem. For that she should be rightly pilloried.

      EU tax laws which the UK is compelled to adhere to are the real story.

      Hodge made a real bodge of covering this up by threatening to support militant consumer action against the business interests of multinationals in the UK who are operating fully within EU law, and for taking the absurd ‘moral tax’ stance.

      As an honorable lefty, likely with statist tendencies, perhaps even you can see the problems created if your tax base is eroded by rules which allow for arbitrage. These become acute if large government with good public services is desired.

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      • 56

        Richard Murphy, the Unions Accountant and Keeper of The Socialist Financial Ethic, would tell you differently, and if Hodge isn’t doing anything held to be reprehensible in Lefty-land, why is she acting like a dissembling hypocrite ?

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      • 85
        Sham Cam and the Faroes says:

        Lets not forget it was the idiot boy Dave who first started up this ‘Moral’ issue re tax affairs. He is an utter arse, he really is.

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    • 69
      Don't Give A Shit About LieBore, UKRAP or the Limp Dumbs says:

      5 million stupid answers by labour troll Mousey whenever anyone points out how crappy and hypocritical Liebore are…. yawn.

      Has the man from the mental health charity knocked on your door yet, Mousey? (Punctuation, boy… see me after class.) …. don’t worry, he will. (Do not finish a sentence on a preposition, boy. You really are fuck1ng thick. You’re expelled)

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    IDS has been smeared because of EU tax arbitrage laws says:

    When the penny finally drops with people that the EU law with regards tax on multi-nationals has created the gap in public finances which is forcing IDS to implement some of the cuts he has, they perhaps may wish to reflect and apologize.

    The PAC should have highlighted this obvious rationale when examining why so much corporation tax is not paid to HMRC by the large multinationals which operate within the UK, but under EU law are allowed to domicile and pay tax in member states with significantly lower tax rates.

    The question EuroZone VAT rules is a little more abstract, but offers similar arbitrage – pay less elsewhere if you can – opportunities.

    This is also the primary reason why Government stimulus is not having the desired effect. Put money into UK consumer economy, the tax which should come back and then be allocated to public services is being skimmed into the treasuries of !reland / Luxembourg primarily, as well as the corporations themselves.

    This is not an anti-corporate statement, but if you are paying less tax on your profits then your profits will naturally be higher.

    Careful reflection on this is worthwhile as it highlights not only a good reason to exit the EU and at the very least renegotiate these aspects of EU law as applies to the UK, but also are quite illuminating as they will explain how a major part of the UK economy should work, and why it is broken.

    This was not apparent completely during the Blair / Brown era as the growing gap was covered by the effects of the credit boom.

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  17. 22
    Gordon Brown says:

    I wish Margaret Hodge well.

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    • 30

      ” … a passerby who witnessed the incident told BBC News that…

      ‘ Margaret Hodge had just came up to me and asked the time. I remember it was exactly 11.33am.

      And then.. well..the taxi just swerved right across the street , across all the traffic and smashed her through the window of the Co-OP.
      I couldn’t believe it .

      No one was even in the taxi. It was parked..an then..well..you can see…it was horrible..gruesome’..”

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      • 43
        BBC says:

        Police say that other than the faint sound of the Arctic Monkeys playing in the distance they have nothing to go on.

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    • 38
      BBC Today Editor says:

      Don’t worry Miss Hodge, we will never ask you questions about your own tax affairs.

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      Magaluf Engerlander says:

      I wish Maggie Hodge a deep well. Preferably the one in Carisbrook Castle on the first day of the donkeys 4 week holiday.

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  18. 26
    Hippo Crates says:

    Are Hodge the Dodge and that prima donna PollyTwaddle related by any chance ?

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  19. 31
    chop off their heads says:

    Well well a lefty hypocrite. Who woulda thunk it?

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  20. 33
    Labour=Waste says:

    She can’t talk straight despite holding secretive holdings in these mysterious an tax efficient family trusts.

    Labour cannot be trusted when they talk about money.

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  21. 37
    Conservative central office says:

    Margaret Hodge nee Oppenheimer is clearly in the wrong party. Together with Amazon, Google etc., there is no evidence that Stemcor is breaking any rules.
    If only she was in the Conservative party all this would be of no consequence but with Labour voters having a chip on there shoulders about people having money she has got herself into difficulties.

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  22. 46
    Moussa Koussa Mark 10 says:

    Too late for poor B*illy Hag*e.

    Now in his early 50’s, shacking up with a under model ten years ago has made no difference.

    Fiffy Fie Ffion is now also past it, so there will be no little Bill*ies…can’t imagine what went wrong. !!!!!!

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  23. 47
    She's a bad one. says:

    Margaret Hodge’s family company pays just 0.01pc tax on £2.1bn of business generated in the UK

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businesslatestnews/9668396/Margaret-Hodges-family-company-pays-just-0.01pc-tax-on-2.1bn-of-business-generated-in-the-UK.html

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  24. 49
    i don't n eed no doctor says:

    Hodge should step down from the committee until her financial affairs have been fully audited, and she has been proven not to be evil

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  25. 59
    Down Shep says:

    Seems a bit hazy as to the figures and the financial set-up, but she is just a (minority) shareholder, but oh wait a minute, isn’t it her brother that’s in charge of the company, never thought to ask?.

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    • 70

      Magrat will get an annual shareholder’s report. One would expect the Chair of the PAC to be able to read it and ask pertinent questions. Maybe she’s just too busy pointing out the motes in other’s eyes to deal with the beam in hers.

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  26. 72
    Penfold says:

    Hodge as a leftie doesnt let irony get in the way of a good capitalist bashing.

    She is rightly as she says a shareholder and as such is not involved in running the company. The problem is though that the company, Stemcor, is a family company, run by the family for the family.
    Additionally she has managed to place a lot of her persoanl shares into family trusts and avoid the financial pitfalls of death duties.
    An action plan that was well used by the Millibands.

    Being a socialist and rich is not a contradiction.
    The contradiction exists when, as a socialist you use well travelled taxes management planning, to mitigate taxes that the rest of the electorate cannot access.

    Then you have rank hypocrisy, double standards, and a champagne lifestyle beloved of all tyrants and despots be they lefty or righty.

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  27. 74

    I wonder if Hodge would be dare to be interviewed by Paxo, or even Harrumphrys? She can dish it out, even if she comes off looking like a bargain bin Ann Robinson (and that’s pretty cheap)…

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  28. 76
    Anonymous says:

    She lied about the child trafficking in Islington and she is lying about her money. Scum.

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  29. 79
    kay burleyhuman says:

    and what about maria miller’s expenses???

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  30. 80
    Stopthewhininglefties says:

    Hip, hip, hippo….. Nah. You finish it!

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  31. 84
    Sir Mary Flappes says:

    Terrible alopecia and a turkey-neck to match that of .’ I sign any cheque ‘ Jowell.

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    Helpful says:

    I thought it was the HMRC’s and the Tax Tribunals’ jobs to decide what was and is a perfectly proper amount of Corporation Tax to pay.
    Last time I looked an individual’s and a company’s tax affairs were confidential.

    If she thinks that confidentiality is inappropriate perhaps she should advocate that MPs and their immediate families should publish their tax returns?

    Perhaps she should seek to become a Commissioner of the HMRC?

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    • 88
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Who was it at HMRC who ‘turned a blind eye’ to an £11 million tax payment due to them because those atop HMRC were ‘persuaded to not go after the money but more importantly the company’? And which company was that by chance – was it goldman sachs?

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    Keith Vaz – was a lawyer who came into a lot of ‘knowledge’ BEFORE he became an MP – could he have known lots of the names and information by virtue of having had ‘inside info’ by being a lawyer in and around the Islington Barnes / Elm Street GH arenas and if so has he not perverted the course of justice in both a private capacity and for political ends too?

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  34. 90

    Guido, you’re clutching at straws! I saw that interview and Margaret Hodge kept her cool and was very emphatic about the company in question being above board. She didn’t look rattled at all. Your selective reporting of the transcript gives the wrong impression.

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  35. 92
    Mark Skid says:

    You mental spastic – I saw the interview as well, because it as the top of this thread, and the lying dribbling bumbling Hodge is well and truly skewered. You do not seem to realize that the usual marxist tactic of lying about what was said does not work when we can hear and see what was said for ourselves.

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    efrem zimbalist jr says:

    MRS STEMCOR ADDS :

    YES WE WILL GET SOMEONE TO COME HERE WHO CAN ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS …………..

    AND IF HE OR SHE DOES NOT ANSWER WE HAVE A FULL RANGE OF POSITIONS THAT WE CAN TAKE IN REGARDS TO THAT INDIVIDUAL UP TO AND ICLUDING ……………….. STAMPING OUR FEET AND SKWEEMING AND JUMPING UP AND DOWN UNTIL WE ARE ALL VIOLENTLY SICK ……… SO THERE !!!!

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  37. 95

    I..er..yes…er…I am…er..er…wearing….er…er…my shareholder..um…er…hat!

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