May 15th, 2013

Le Triple Dip For Hollibande

Socialist France has fallen into a triple dip recession this morning, Francois Hollande marks his first anniversary of being sworn in with his economy shrinking by 0.2% in the first quarter this year. One thing you won’t be hearing this side of the channel today is any more talk from Ed Miliband of a “united front” with France’s enterprise-destroying tax-obsessed corruption hit growth killer. Nothing of last summer’s Hollibande agreement for a “different way forward”, or Ed’s ill-fated praise for the French leader’s “determination to create jobs and growth”. Come 2015, don’t say they didn’t warn you…

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  1. 1
    retardEd Miliband says:



    • 8
      Down with Dave says:

      With unemployment running at 27%+ in both Spain & Greece, and at ~60% for you unemployment, it’s not looking good for the Eurozone.

      Of course all our erudite politicians and business groups told us it would be a disaster if we didn’t join. ERM Deja vu anyone?

      Just like they tell us it would be a disaster if we left the EU.


      • 10
        Down with Dave says:

        Ooops you=youth


        • 51
          V1le, vicious Labour ruined my Country says:

          Referendum now not a lying promise sometime in the future.


        • 109
          Anonymous says:

          Will the EU survive long enough for a referendum? I do not see the Germans sending troops to protect the Berlaymont after the sack of the Elysee when the Army and Gendarmerie stood aside and allowed the young French unemployed and their pensionless grandparents to overwhelm the riot police.


      • 20
        Doh! says:

        Most politicians said don’t join the Euro. Even the calamitous Gordon Brown said no to that one!


        • 25
          Ken Clarke, the Jurassic old fart, says:

          I think it would be a brilliant idea to join the euro. We should do it immediately.

          Anyone who says otherwise, or who entertains the ridiculous idea of leaving the EU, is clearly a clown.

          *chortle* *chortle*


          • Aunt Mat says:

            Its not just the EU.

            We don’t like politicians – full stop.

            They think that they are entitled to a luxurious lifestyle, while at the same time, they think they earn brownie points by harassing “scroungers”.

            I think they will find we like hypocrites less than we like scroungers.


        • 138
          jackie treehorn says:

          Brown wanted to join but not until he had spent all the lovely loot the Tories had left him.


        • 146
          A wet dream says:

          That was cause for premature Jock elation.


      • 24
        Nicholarse Clegg says:

        But it would be a disaster if we left the EU.

        A disaster for my glorious Brussels-based career, in a super-swanky office paid for by you!


        • 145
          I thought this site was about free speech says:

          0.2% with 10% inflation, well done

          a) social taxes
          b) limited working hours
          c) can’t fire poor performing workers
          d) the Euro
          e) the Germans/EU dictating eurozone economic/fiscal policy

          take your pick on a to e above to know why France and the EU is shrinking


        • 166
          BBC Bring Back Communism says:

          The new film of Hollande is simply outrageous and will damage him so much that we will not be publicizing out of respect for our socialist French cousin.
          We will talk about Germany instead, and of course witter on endlessly ad nauseum about Cameron and the back bench revolt over the EU.


      • 30
        Anonymous says:

        Nobody ever gives us any facts and figures re leaving the EU, we would all be mad to vote to leave at the moment as we simply dont know the true facts. Can somebody provide a link to some EU information please ? plus i am sick and tired of Nigel Farage hectoring us from th radio on the subject, like some madman who has broken in to a BBC studio, and forced himself on the air !he is so annoying.


        • 59
          V1le, vicious Labour ruined my Country says:

          He is the only politician standing up for the British people. The rest have been bribed, promised bribes or promised pensions and jobs on the eu gravy train.


          • Dee Lusional says:

            What does Nige do for a living?


          • A clue says:

            “What does Nige do for a living?”

            He advocates getting the hell out of the EU as fast as possible and to stop funding it and it’s institutions.


          • Fish says:

            Parker Farridge only stands up for himself…and troughing from the EU gravy train.


          • Educating the ignorant says:

            A clue:

            It’s “its institutions”, not “it’s”.

            it’s, a contraction of it is or it has
            its, the possessive form of the pronoun it


        • 76
          Old Blind Pugh says:

          The little people are not allowed to have all the facts as you well know, only those facts that those in charge want you to know (usually slanted to what their ideologies , to know all the facts would empower people, that is not what any government wants, be it the US, UK , Russia and all the Russias, China. All media even Geedo puts his slant on the news.


        • 92
          tanzanite says:

          We are net contributors to the EU at the rate of £50million a day and I read that the EU was seeking an additional £750million as a one off payment for something worthless.

          If that’s not a reason for voting to come out I don’t know what is!!


          • Anonymous says:

            Perhaps the £750million is the latest estimate for completing Emperor Rumpo’s palace.


        • 122
          Vlad the Loudhailer says:

          In 2002 when it looked as though we might join the Euro I emailed an 3 local MEPs and the Assistant Budgetary Commissioner with three simple questions which were:


          • Vlad the Loudhailer says:

            What did each member state pay net, what did each member state receive net and what was the administration costs? You would assume that Assistant Budgetary Commissioner would know whether the was EU spending more than it receives. He could not give a straight answer telling me he did not have the administration costs to hand as the were in a vadamecum that was out of print, after five emails he finally yielded the administration costs but had no idea of the net income and out goings. This was supplied by the Labour MEP (no reply from the Lid Dem) and it was in an addendum to the 1998 set of unaudited accounts.

            This showed that the EU spent £14.9 billion, received £10.9 billion and its administrative cost was £.3.8 billion, in other words it was running a structural deficit of £7.8 billion annually. Net contributors of the £10.9 billion were Germany 53.5% , UK 19.1%, Belgium 1.2%, France 0.4%, Italy 5.5%, Luxembourg 0.9%, Netherlands 9.1%, Austria 4.3%, Finland 0.6% and Sweden 5.4%. Note this was before the expansion of the EU and before Blair gave away some of Thatcher’s rebate.

            The same questions need asking again and you will see why the UK being in the EU is madness.


        • 167
          BBC Bring Back Communism says:

          We had a left wing economist from the LSE (oxymoron I know) state that the working out of a cost benefit analysis was attempted by him and his comrades but proved to be too complex with so many assumptions having to be made.
          In reality they could not get the findings to support their ideology so they dropped it.


      • 45
        Old Blind Pugh says:

        Dave dear boy, it depends who you class as unemployed, do you call a person who is out of work signing on and claiming JSA (the governments preferred version), or a person who is signing on but is unable to get any benefits because of his asset level, people who do not sign on any more because they think it is not worth bothering anymore, the managerial type who will not sign on, because of the indignity of signing on and he thinks he will get a job because of what he has done in the past (there will be quite a few of those) and there are more if you look.


      • 125
        Most people don't understand economics says:

        And it’s only just begun. The Netherlands is now in big trouble and the Euro cancer is slowly spreading into Eastern Europe with Slovenia the first to fall. Broad money supply is in decline as the ECB refuses to print money to monetise the bad debt, virtually guaranteeing a prolonged and severe recession.

        All this is on the fiscal side. The underlying economic problems of the Eurozone haven’t even begun to be addressed. Exactly what is Spain going to do now that it is clear that selling holiday appartments has no future? How is Greece going to survive without EU subsisidies? Will Ireland have to start from scratch now that EU subsidies and protectionism isn’t working in its favour?

        Basically the EU was screwed by its own policies of subsisidies and protectionism from its inception, subsequently totally undermined by the Uruguay round of the GATT trade talks.


    • 33
      green ink says:

      The Hollande Milliband axis is a match made in heaven … both socialist lightweights bound by dogma and a complete lack of joined up thinking and action.

      Hollande has induced a complete tanking of the french economy which has been on it’s knees for years. His first great reforming act increasing upper end taxes from 50 to 75% has seen a surge in exiting wealth and increased use of the black economy which in france is a totally normal way of doing busines at the SME level.

      A grossly over bloated public sector with a strong leftie union base ensures any actions successive presidents take to bring the economy back into some semblance of balance just never get enacted or if they do not for long.

      The EU reform debate will not be helped by the plight of the french as they will be clinging to the CAP particularly and will continue to want maximum support for their industries.

      perhaps Frau Merkel and David Cameron can pincer move Hollande into seeing the sense of a major EU shake-up but Hollande’s political vision is obviously very limited and one term seems to be his destiny …. unlike David Cameron !


      • 44
        LibLabConceit says:

        What a load of fucking libertarian claptrap!


        • 113
          A clue says:

          There is nothing remotely libertarian about the EU or anything it embraces.


          • Anonymous says:

            Well the free movement of labour and sod the consequences is one of the cherished beliefs of the libertarian loons, so the EU are doing some thing out of the libertarian play book.


          • JH23479238423493 says:

            I don’t think the free movement of benefit and crime tourists who expect the host culture to celebrate as it accommodates their every excess quite fits into libertarian thinking.


  2. 2
    Kent Constable says:

    He’s fucking useless. Look at him, not pointing at Big Ben. They’re bot aimless.


    • 35
      Anonymous says:

      It worries me that, that, cretin could be PM! say what you like about Davis Cameron, at least he seems to be genuine.


      • 103
        Old Blind Pugh says:

        Call me Dave is a POLITICIAN, enough said, need it say more. The surface he is on is extremely icy, therefore very slippy and he has to be careful in case he falls but at the moment he looks as if he is starting to slide out of control. Farage as a stirrer and self publicist up he is very good it gives the government something to think about, but as PM I have great doubts.


      • 116
        A clue says:

        “Cameron, at least he seems to be genuine.”

        Anonymous, it seems you are the very person I am looking for. I happen to own Tower Bridge and rent it to the City of London. However I am looking to sell for a very reasonable price. Could I interest you in the bargain of a lifetime?????


  3. 3
    Cameron's caplin says:

    Ed Balls


    • 4
      Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

      Too far, too fast ??

      Flat-lining ??


      • 39
        Anonymous says:

        Stupid hand signals, tourettes, he should be pensioned off !


      • 43
        Ed Millibrain says:

        We need to thqueeth the rich til the pipth thqueak. That will cure all our problemth. Then everyone will be poor, exthept me of courth. Loth of people will tharve but thath a pricth worth paying.


        • 119
          Gideon Osborne says:

          I agree Ed, that’s why I am thinking up all manner of new ‘green’ taxes, that will ensure we get out of recession really easily! Great minds think alike eh?


  4. 5
    Warren Buffett says:

    I told you that I would offload my gold holdings today.

    Why don’t you ?

    GOLD 1,409.60 -14.90 -1.05%


    • 14
      Gold Bear says:

      I will drive it below 1400.00 today,have no worries about that .


    • 15
      JH23479238423493 says:

      Too busy backing up the truck for when it goes below $1200.

      I remember umming and ahhing about whether to buy Silver when it was $9.90 an ounce. Then it went to $44.


    • 18
      Oy Vey says:

      Excellent call,Warren

      It’s gonna dip below 1400 today

      GOLD 1,407.40 -17.10 -1.20%


      • 120
        Goldman Sachs et al says:

        Manipulating the markets is childs play if you have enough clout. Sell high and buy again, after you shock the price down. Works every time.


  5. 6
    Sir Anthony Wedgwood Benn says:

    If we just give everyone lots of this ‘money’ thing then everyone will be ok?


    • 11
      Lord Stansted says:

      A bit like your motorcycle factory idea, eh Lord Stansgate. Now, how long did that factory thingy last?


      • 31
        Harbottle says:

        Yes, the infamous Meriden Motorcycle Cooperative-a classic example of how socialist workers control ideas always result in failure and chaos.

        Thankfully the Triumph name was saved and now prospers as a successful British company.


      • 140
        Sir Anthony Wedgwood Benn says:

        What we need is a thousand years of socialism. You guys just don’t give us enough time to bed in before you come along and ruin everything.


        • 169
          Just Saying says:

          One question Socialists can never answer.
          Name me one socialist state that became economically viable over a 20 year period?
          Even a 5 year period is impossible to answer.


    • 17
      Francois Hollande says:

      So after £250 billion of QE money printing, the UK has achieved a growth rate of 0.01%.

      Maybe we French are just being a bit more honest.


      • 34
        LibLabConceit says:

        Haven’t you just legalised homosexual bum sex marriage in France just like Dave is doing here?

        Maybe the faux socialist vs capitalist panto in the west is just a divide and conquer diversion.

        I think you all report to the Bilderbuggers in the end.


      • 64
        Vote Tory, get heir to Blair says:

        What about employment. Socialists used to care about that. Unemployment in France is also higher than the UK (7.9%).

        “PARIS, April 25 (Reuters) – More people were out of job in France in March than at any other time in the past, data on Thursday showed, a bleak record that cast new doubt on government promises to reverse the unemployment trend by year-end.

        The new 3.225 million record, an 11.5 percent annual increase, is a symbolic blow to Socialist President Francois Hollande, whose approval ratings have sunk to the lowest of any modern French leader in recent months as jobless claims soared.

        France’s unemployment rate as calculated by International Labour Organisation methodology has risen to 10.6 percent.”


    • 55
      Got a new Crayon says:

      ” the current going rate has something like three deciduous forests buying one ship’s peanut.”

      Douglas didn’t know how true his joke was.
      Ship ‘em all out on the ‘B’ Ark.


  6. 7
    Steve Miliband says:

    They said

    ‘trop loin et trop vite’

    I say

    ‘pas assez loin pas assez rapide’


  7. 9
    JH23479238423493 says:

    Socialism does not work, anywhere, ever.

    It leads to shortages of everything except misery.


    • 22
      A very rich and happy Chinese man living in national socialist China says:

      Are you referring to international socialism or national socialism?


  8. 12
    Devious thick Dave says:

    I offer you guarantees on a referendum.

    PS I have my fingers crossed behind my back.


  9. 13
    All MP's are scum says:

    Thats where socialist policies get you.


  10. 16
    Labour needs immigrants says:

    Those two were made for each other.


  11. 19
    Edouard Milébande says:

    Mad Frankie Hollande’s been useless in office, a European laughing stock.

    Why would Ed Miliband cosy up to a man with policies designed to bring red tape, high tax and a weak economy?


    • 74
      Vote Tory, get heir to Blair says:

      He did exactly the same with Gordon Brown. It’s in their DNA to squander money, increase state control and increase debt.


    • 128
      Who would have believed dipsticks come in pairs says:

      Because he’s a pillock.

      Hollande has “loser” written all over him, but Ed is keen to be associated closely with him. Ed really doesn’t understanfd politics at all.


  12. 21
    Old Blind Pugh says:

    Geedo a bit off topic there is an old cartoon in the Guardian along with an article about it, nothing changes does it except for the way they do it. maybe Mark and his mate could learn something.


  13. 23
    Captain Obvious says:

    The French love their bureaucracy, high taxes and massive public sector waste. Hollande was elected to give them even more of this.

    Oh look, their economy is shrinking now…


    • 29
      One-term Dave, dragging the Tories to their grave, says:

      What I like about France is their hugely expensive loss-making spiffingly high speed railways.

      By jove, we could do with a few of those, to boost our economy. Tell you what, I’ll borrow £32,000,000,000 in your name and give it all to my super chums in the construction industry and have them build one right across the English countryside.

      Jolly spiffing! Just like the backhander I’ll get, what what what!

      Toodle pip!


      • 105
        EU Directive says:

        Dave is only following our orders, we told him to build it, as it is part of the TEN-T AKA Trans European Transport Network.

        When it’s all completed, along with the roads we are going to order you to build, we will take charge of all road, rail, air and maritime routes.

        We are then going to start charging you to use it, through our satellite network called Gallileo.


        • 123
          A clue says:

          Every single tram system is also under the same EU directive. It has NOTHING to do with anything local people actually want. The directives are orders, that none locally can stop, or change, by any democratic method.


          • Who would have believed dipsticks come in pairs says:

            And the whole thing was forced through by intense lobbying from Siemens et al to get hold of yet more lovely EU subsidies.

            Of course if you live in Eastern Europe you get whole motorways driven through your countryside just so the Germans can get to Russia and Asia and if you complain the Germans just say “We subsidise you, shut the f**k up”. So nothing has changed since WWII. The Germans are still running Europe to suit themselves but they use economic warfare instead of bullets.


          • Plumb loco says:

            But what would the EU actually do if somebody told them to piss off with their sodding so-called Directives that nobody wants? Invade?


  14. 26
    WoRaft ChIHUAHua says:

    Love that antenna sticking out of Miliband’s head so he can pick up his instructions and find his way home. Are we all going to be obliged to have them under EU legislation?


  15. 27
    Village Idiot says:

    The BBC,was busting a gut in the hope that the United Kingdom,would have a
    “Triple Dip Recession”, but,they ended up disappointed……Now,they can crow about France,and the wonderful EU,delivering for the citizens of europe…How any sane person can say the eu is a good thing,really has lost their grip on reality.!!!!


    • 40
      Harbottle says:

      Breaking news-unemployment down-shock/horror in BBC newsroom.


    • 42
      One-term Dave, dragging the Tories to their grave, says:

      The EU is jolly spiffing, and it’s vital we remain within it. As I have said many times, there are absolutely no circumstances whatsoever under which I would take Britain out of it.

      By the way, that comment hasn’t in any way shape or form totally buggered our chances of renegotiating the terms of our membership.

      Tally ho!


    • 73
      Wyle Cop says:

      Since the figures have been revised by the ONS, it now looks as if we didn’t even have a Double-Dip recession.

      The last recession was in… 2009. Perhaps Ed would like to remind us who was in power then.

      Eh, Ed?



    • 151
      Plumb loco says:

      For a Village Idiot you make remarkable sense. Are you sure you are who you purport to be? Or are you hiding your light under a George Bushel?


      • 163
        Village Idiot says:

        Grew up in the “Shires”,in a “Darling Buds of May” style…(nuff sed)


  16. 28
    i don't n eed no doctor says:

    Socialism at it’s finest.


    • 172
      Educating the ignorant says:

      It’s “its finest”, not “it’s”.

      it’s, a contraction of it is or it has
      its, the possessive form of the pronoun it


  17. 32
    Guido the amateur economist says:

    Censoring the real figures now?

    You are a fucking disgrace


    • 37
      Guido has no shame says:

      I supppose as a paid member of the Murdoch Mob

      This should be expected


      • 58
        Tony Bliar, godfather to one of Murdoch's kids and filmed kissing Rebeckah, says:

        People who are paid-up members of the Murdoch mob are disgraceful, aren’t they?


      • 61
        Peter Grimes says:

        Do, please fuck off if you keep changing your moniker and have nothing nice to say about our kind host.

        Or at least be subtle about it.


  18. 36
    Turned Out Nicely Again says:

    UK unemployment down too.

    Whilst Franky Hollande taxes and regulates jobs out of existence, George Osborne is winning for Britain.


    • 50
      Reality says:

      I think, actually, the Private Sector is winning for Britain, whilst Giddy Ozzy sits in his chair with his thumb up his arse.


      • 57
        Reality Check says:

        Eh? The private sector taking over from the bloated unionised public sector is exactly what Osborne has been trying to achieve.


      • 132
        Most people don't understand economics says:

        Basically that’s what we need. Osborne to keep his nose out of it and not try any of that Keynsian government over-stimulus with money from nowhere nonsense that Balls is so keen on. Let the BofE and the private sector do their job while the government holds a steady course.


  19. 38
    The BBC says:

    Bolllocks bollocks bollocks. The UK unemployment figures have fallen.

    There must be some mistake. Normal service will be reumed afyer we have spoken to Ed Miliband


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  22. 54
    George Gideon Oliver Osborne says:

    I have no Plan B,I repeat,I have no Plan B.

    BREAKING NEWS:UK unemployment total rose by 15,000 in the January to March period to 2.52 million


    • 60
      Anonymous says:

      yes, love, but we are now in the march to june period, Wake up !


    • 65
      Turned Out Nicely Again says:

      You’re simply using the wrong numbers.

      Britain’s unemployment rate has fallen to 7.8% in the three months to March, from 7.9%. The UK claimant count also dropped, with 7,500 fewer people claiming jobless benefit in April.

      Plan A is working. Osborne is winning for Britain.


  23. 62
    Fair and balanced says:

    Funny that you should attack Hollande as “corruption hit”

    When London is the money laundering, tax avoidance, fraud and rate fiddling capital of the world

    and UK politics corrupted to the bone…as you know!

    Not to speak of the criminal Murdoch Press of which you are a member


    • 75
      S P 4 B S says:

      not funny at all. When people were shocked about politicians on the take, they were only shocked that they did sort of knew it already, but hadn’t expected it to be true.

      I just wonder when the “slimming pills that knacker your heart valves” problem will come to light as a lobbying scandal. Don’t hold your breath for the mainstream press to look into that.


    • 100
      Vote Tory, get heir to Blair says:

      His Finance Minister even had a private bank account in Switzerland to dodge taxes. What could be more corrupt than that?

      And don’t get me started on the Mafia running Italy. And people still want to be part of the bent EU? Nutters the lot of them.

      We have our share of crooks but these get exposed. In socialist France the crooked goings on mainly stay hidden and kept out of the media.


      • 115
        S P 4 B S says:

        “What could be more corrupt than that?”

        Well you aint heard nothing yet. Do you know how he made that money? Theres suggestions of lobbying if not worse.


    • 139
      WTF??? says:

      Mitterand, Chirac, Sarkozy all ended up in the mire of corruption. With Hollande it is only a matter of time before we find out he is in it up to his neck.

      They all go to the same schools and hang out with the same people.


  24. 63
    Munkhopton says:

    The problem with Socialism is that you get someone like Owen Jones in charge of a car factory


    • 81
      Sir Iain Blair (Labour) says:

      Or a school, hospital or police force.


      • 93
        Owen says:

        I’m brilliant at making cars from Lego.


      • 126
        David Nicholson says:

        Or heaven forbid, a cvnt like me running the NHS, after I oversaw the killing of thousands in my very own National Death Trust.


    • 90
      Pavlovs Dog says:

      The problem with Capitalism is that you must have a large body of unemployed people in order to attract foreign companies to bring their factories to you.


      • 107
        Vote Tory, get heir to Blair says:

        The problem with socialism is that you never attract any foreign companies to provide jobs for people like school-leavers, women who wish to return to work and other unemployed. So you always end up with a high level of unemployed young people.


        • 108
          Vote Tory, get heir to Blair says:

          The beauty of good capitalism is that you create opportunities for people to start their own companies and create their own factories and create new jobs for the unemployed.


        • 118
          Pavlovs Dog says:

          No, No..Under Socialism you prop up your own companies and have no need for foreign investment. Socialism is also nationalist, they prefer to avoid outside investors. This can lead to a stagnated industrial sector who fail to respond to global advances. Only the strongest of leadership can maintain a strong national industry. Liberalism is weak. Liberals (wearing Conservative rosettes) closed the UK industries, and utilised the following unemployment to encourage outside investment.


  25. 68
    S P 4 B S says:

    If you actually look at France carefully you’ll realise that the Labour party isn’t really socialist at all.

    For example, if a ferry company, oil refinery, or steel works was going down the pan would you expect the government to step in and bail it out? AND that was bloody Sarkozy, who is supposedly a mad right wing freemarketeer.

    Hollande is useless too. Sarkozy raised the retirment age to 62. One of the big things that lost him the election. So then hollande drops it back to 60. And within a year he has to raise it to 62.


    • 131
      The French right wing does not exist says:

      France has NO right wing party.

      They are all manifestations of leftist, collectivist ideologies, including Le P*n’s FN, which is an old fashioned national socialist party.

      Millions still vote communist in the evolutionary backwater called France and many towns and cities still have communist mayors.


      • 142
        WTF??? says:

        They all go to the same schools of politics, which are inherently left-wing.

        Sarkozy said a lot of right-wing things to get himself elected, then went very left-wing in office.

        Still, with the rise of Islam ensuring that France will be the first to hand over control of its nukes to the Immams I expect that either the US or the Russians will feel compelled to take France out of the geopolitical equation sooner rather than later.


  26. 72
    BB says:

    Miliband/Hollande –

    You only have to mention those names coupled with Balls and little Yvetteeeee to run in the other direction as fast as you can. Useless articles the whole bunch of them.


    • 88
      A former Labour voter says:

      Don’t forget to add Harriet Harman, odiously hypocritical Margaret Hodge (and her infamous tax dodge), plus Chuka Umunna, to make the shower of shit complete.

      Honestly, you couldn’t create a worse political party if you tried.


  27. 79
    The BBC causes serious mental illness says:

    Little reported by the UK’s MSM and particularly its state funded propaganda organ is the fun new statistic from France which is indicating that self-immolations, for some reason taking place outside government offices and banks mainly, are currently running at about 2 a week.

    Suicide rates are up, police ignoring overt muzzie related crime against locals in Par!s and elsewhere. France is truly in a dreadful state.

    Principle political magazine Le Point did feature a cover with the word Revolution on the front the other week and some commentators are suggesting that France is in a pre-revolutionary state at present.

    Add to this a public which marches in the hundreds of thousands on the streets against gay marriage, and which if offered an EU vote would like leave tomorrow (Frexit :-) ), all is a bit shit.

    But we at the BBC do not feel it in the UK public interest to report on any of that.


    • 83
      Socialism is evil says:

      What don’t ‘they’ understand? It is like banging your head against a brick wall.



      • 98
        Mr Pedant says:

        I think it works very well, given that its unstated intention is to reduce the population to poverty and therefore lifelong dependence on the State.


      • 102
        The BBC causes serious mental illness says:

        Socialism doesn’t work.

        75% tax rates certainly do not increase government revenues and will hurt business / the economy.

        However, if you want to push people into a state of enforced poverty from which they can then be mobilized into some sort of revolution to bring in a socialist system this is one way of doing it.

        Unfortunately for scum like Barosso, France is unlikely to urbanize its countryside in order to create full equality and socialist utopia a la Mao.

        The situation is way to toxic for scum like Miliband to go near.

        Anyone who saw interviews with the lefty spokespeople pre election of Hollande will be familiar with the sales pitch, and those familiar with broader history, Bolshevik revolution may be relevant, will realize they are seeing a manufactured version unfolding right now.


      • 106
        Pavlovs Dog says:

        Hence the reason it was abandoned. And yet, so many idiots on the internets spend their time railing against it.

        Is it mandatory for a functioning capitalist state to have at least 18% of their people whipped into a fervour about a system that was finally ended in the UK during the 80’s?

        Seems like a very weak system to me. Surely a stronger system would have encouraged their electorate to move on….Oh they did…You cloth eared old farts are living in the 80’s.


        • 124
          The BBC causes serious mental illness says:

          People probably find socialism easier to think about and type than communitarianism which is what has essentially replaced socialism as the competitor to Conservatism.

          Communitarianism is what is attempting to replace Conservatism at present in the Tory party, under Cameron.

          The right are less gullible than the left and realize what is happening, and more importantly the libertarian right have realized that the communitarian way is not in their or the general populations best interests.

          The libertarian left have sold out, though those further out on the left have now figured out that there is a problem and are beginning to react.

          The primary reason people rail against socialism still, and a little incorrectly, is because communitarianism does not fully respect private property rights which is the facet most associate with socialist ideology, particularly that of Marx.

          The libertarian right are against communitarianism because they recognize the latent fascist implications in the mingling of state and corporate interests which lay at the heart of this dialectic.

          The third way, as Blair described it, and Cameron tries to not discuss, itself needs to be outed and properly analysed by the people.

          This ideology incidentally is at the heart of the EU political system.

          When you see terms such as ‘community method’ etc. this is what is being spoken about.


      • 114
        Dee Lusional says:

        Ah…. You have tried this have you!

        What are the effects with other sorts of walls rather than brick? Stone for example.

        Have you tried other brick constructions? What were the results?

        Do they still not understand after those trials?

        Rather fascinating wouldn’t you say


      • 144
        Labour buys its way into power with your cash says:

        Socialism works VERY WELL…. as long as your intention is to SIEZE POWER BY BUYING THE VOTES OF THE LESS WELL OFF WITH THE MONEY OF THE BETTER OFF!

        For that it is a solid gold success which work perfectly well for Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Castro, Chavez and even our local ranting socialist demagogue Ken Livingstone.

        Of course it wouldn’t work quite so well in a system where you got more votes if you paid more tax….


    • 95
      S P 4 B S says:

      bollocks. I was hardly listening to the radio in the car this morning, and I heard it on R4.


      • 97
        S P 4 B S says:

        oops I didnt read your post properly!

        France has a culture that romanticises suicide too much.


        • 112
          The BBC causes serious mental illness says:

          Suicide is romantic if it involves spurned love and real rejected feelings of hurt. This is can be considered a passion and is possible to distort the actions into something oddly honorable.

          Setting yourself on fire outside a police station, government office, or bank because you can no longer afford to feed your family, or house them, is something different.

          These are overt political statements being made which are beginning to irritate people.

          The rates of these types of suicide are becoming hard to ignore and cannot be romanticized. They can be criticized though.

          Point about BBC is they are only now starting to report on this following the stories being published in Le Point and elsewhere the other week. The problem has been ongoing since at least last December, has been covered by AFP, but generally ignored.

          This, like ongoing protests in P0rtugal, Spa!n, Greece, !taly etc. represents overt censorship which can only serve one purpose, which is to cover up some of the broader feeling against the EU being expressed across Europe.

          Nearly all of this is tied to the gross economic mismanagement that has been in play the past five years or so.

          A corollary is, any propaganda that UKIP supporters are isolated in their ‘views for little England and isolationism’ can be shot down as similar sentiment towards the EU specifically is felt across the Eurozone.

          The sentiment against immigration and foreigners, and nationalist feelings are also somewhat strong at present and growing. The latter is a worrying sign, given how this is playing out in Greece at present, which is currently the most overt.


    • 162
      Portfolio says:

      Yep, them French are revolting.


  28. 85
    Vote Tory, get heir to Blair says:

    Another blatant example of Biased BBC.

    “ – The unemployment rate in the U.K. fell unexpectedly last month, official data showed on Thursday.

    In a report, National Statistics said that U.K. Unemployment Rate fell to a seasonally adjusted 7.8%, from 7.9% in the preceding month.

    Analysts had expected U.K. Unemployment Rate to remain unchanged at 7.9% last month.”

    “UK unemployment has risen to 2.52 million, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) has said.

    ONS figures showed 15,000 more people were unemployed in the three months to the end of March, compared with the previous three months.

    The unemployment rate now stands at 7.8%.”

    N.B. French unemployment is 10.6%.


  29. 86
    Mick says:

    Merde, alors…

    Couldn’t happen to nicer people –

    Every union-plagued economy in Europe is going down the pan.

    What does Len McClusky suggest?


    • 99
      tanzanite says:

      +++Laugh+++ what does lenmcclusky suggest ? – joining the euro of course and nationalising any industry we’ve got left and and re-nationalising the railways! But then I hear militwit is already considering that last one ‘when he gets into no 10′ in 2015!!


    • 157
      Mayor Delors says:

      Did you call?


  30. 91
    S P 4 B S says:

    PS: oddly enough there was a demonstration in france the other day. About the only time I’ve ever seen for the “free market”

    DIY shop workers demanding to be able to work on Sundays.

    Oddly furniture shops can open on sunday. must have been a president’s mate that owned some in the past.


    • 149
      The British are bent says:

      There was a mini riot in central Paris the other night caused by incompetent policing


  31. 96
    Feet and Inches says:

    How many millibands in a centimetre?


    • 141
      Ed's maths lesson for Martha says:

      12 but includes 5% VAT. It would be 14.7 if we had won the election.


  32. 101
    tanzanite says:

    definition of Hollibande = economic clowns who think you can borrow to spend your way out of debt!


  33. 104
    Taxfodder says:

    Administrators, Solicitors, Clerks and Accountants in my experience are only as good as a damned good kick up the bum every hour on the hour can make them…..flair and innovation never an option

    None of any political persuasion are likely to be successful leader material they are born to be led…..

    Run a country? yes into the ground…..


  34. 148
    Captain Pedalo says:

    If you go out to work I will take 75 per cent off you and you can go out and do whatever you like with the remaining 25 per cent .


  35. 158
    Du vin, Du pain, Du Omnishambles says:

    I guess the French governing elite will look at this when they return from summer holidays, which start about now.


  36. 159
    Sally says:

    Personally I am delighted to see a triple dip in France. That will teach them to elect socialists


  37. 160
    Portfolio says:

    Still trying to find an anagram of New Labor that means Bankrupt, never thought it might be easier in Frog


  38. 164
    Howzat1932 says:

    On another subject ref. homosexual marriage does anybody have a guess on the number of our elected house of six hundred odd are of which persuasion ie. homosexual, lesbian, cross dresser,or any other deviance.Surely the should be made to abstain or show their preference when it comes votes which affect their preference.Harriet Harmans husband Jack Dromey comes into his own category as he gained his seat as the only (male) in a supposed female only list (funny people these socialists.Thats all folks.


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