April 25th, 2013

Ipsos Mori v LabourList

For some reason Ipsos Mori haven’t taken kindly to a ‘Labour source’ telling LabourList’s Mark Ferguson that they “consistently brief highly selective data to create misleading impressions”. In a withering riposte on their website, they insist things really are that bad for Ed:

“Mr Ferguson’s complaint appears to be about Joe Murphy’s coverage of our questions about Ed Miliband in the Evening Standard. He states that “To read the report you’d think that the results were abnormally bad for Ed Miliband (as it happens, Cameron was far further behind Brown at this stage than Miliband is behind Cameron)”, and Joe Murphy himself reported that “A Labour source said David Cameron was further behind Gordon Brown at the same stage in the last Parliament.” But the results are, all, abnormally bad for Ed Miliband, and Cameron was not further behind Brown at the same stage in the last parliament… We therefore request that Mr Ferguson:

  • provides evidence for or corrects his assertion that Cameron was further behind Brown than Miliband is behind Cameron at this stage of the parliament;
  • makes it clear in his piece that the changes in satisfaction for both Cameron and Miliband since last month are not statistically significant.”

Fight…


63 Comments

  1. 1
    Anonymous says:

    Misinformation in politics? What new genius?

  2. 2
    Mitch says:

    Fight? Or Hissy Fit?

  3. 3
    JH349834905934 says:

    Seems an awfully long time since Jimmy has done one of his chippy little countdowns to a Labour government.

    It’s been a good year for Ed. That year is over.

    • 32
      Jimmy says:

      Not to worry, its only 741 days, 13 hours and 28 minutes till your next Labour Government.

      • 39
        A Blank Sheet says:

        I’ve never seen a party win a general election with no policies before. Should be fun!.

        • 41
          Len McCluskey says:

          we’re working on it

          • Boyzone from the Black Stuff (Guinness mainly) says:

            Don’t be bloody silly Len – one, you’re a Socialist, two you’re a Union Fat Cat – you have no idea what the word “Work” actually means.

            Gi’zza job!

      • 45
        JH349834905934 says:

        Right on cue, the apparatchik’s apparatchik.

  4. 4
    wentonsam says:

    Yeah lying scum bags, why don’t they go back to Poland where they came from and die?

  5. 5

    It seems that Labour think the best way to defend themselves is to not defend their policies or what they have done or even say how they will make things better. But to call anyone who thinks/writes differently to themselves a TORY. It seems to be their new four letter swear word.

  6. 6
    Gorgeous George Arsehead says:

    I want to see Ed Moribund as Prime Minister. The sooner the better.

  7. 7
    Mike Hunt says:

    How to lie with statistics.

    • 13
      Lies, Damned lies & Libor statistics says:

      We are the Masters. The BBC will spin the figures the way we tell them.

      • 49
        . says:

        Oh yes. The BBC is spinning the growth figures as flat-lining or bumping along the bottom. Economic optimism? No, not if the BBC can help it.

        • 51
          JH349834905934 says:

          Of course, if this were happening under a Labour government the BBC would be gushing that these growth figures simply demonstrate our extreme robustness in the face of problems that started in America, all thanks to the Labour government.

          In other news, Tractor production would be going from strength to strength. Over to Ed Balls for the softest of soapings.

        • 56
          Curly says:

          Perhaps Dave might consider restating all BBC salaries, perks. allowances and contract values at 30k per annum per head – with immediate effect seeing as we are only at the start of the new financial year. Adjustments to be made only in line with the actual economic situation say twice a year. That might encourage the sh*ts to produce slightly more cheerful (and honest?) reportage. If the economy improves, so does their income; if not it remains static or reduces by a few quid a month until the numbers pick up again.

  8. 8
    Bemused of Sussex says:

    Does anyone give a monkeys what LabourLost have to say?

    • 11
      V1le, vicious Labour ruined my Country says:

      Yes there is a bemused chimp enjoying all of this as nobody else does.

      • 21
        Tay King-dePisse says:

        Then the Big Baboon, one night in June, married them, and very soon, they went upon their abba dabba honeymoon.

        I wish the couple all the happiness in the world.

  9. 10
    UNITE warning to Miliband says:

    We MADE Ed you AND we can unmake you so tow the line and ditch the effing Blairites or else

    PS Here’s next weeks instructions

    • 57
      Curly says:

      Useless, illiterate civil servants and teachers still do not seem to know the difference between ‘toe’ and ‘tow’. Why can’t they all go on strike and leave us in peace?

  10. 14
    Maggie loved bumping uglies says:

    Charles Moore’s authorised biography of Thatcher says that she apparently loved “physical intimacy” with her first boyfriend. Who’d have guessed Maggie loved a bit of rumpy pumpy.

    • 20
      Mitch says:

      Young man and woman get hot with each other, Shocker

    • 29
      Tay King-dePisse says:

      She went out and got what she wanted, instead of simply yearning for it.

      You yearn if you want to, the lady wasn’t for yearning.

      • 48
        Mars Attacks says:

        I think that should have been obvious that she did – after all she fuck3d the Miners and the Unions ’till their eyes watered.

  11. 15
    The BBC says:

    Extremely depressing news on the economy…NO Triple Dip….!!!!!!

    • 25
      The BBC Tard Dept says:

      How’s about our weird Star who does the Voice Overs on that MasterChef twaddle? That slow deary voice! – that spooky intonation! – says it all really!

  12. 16
    Balls Broadcasting Cobblers says:

    Ed Balls on the BBC talking down the economy again. The BBC can’t get enough of it.

    • 17
      wentonsam says:

      linky please????

      • 24
        Ed Balls says:

        “not being in a triple dip recession is better than being in a triple-dip recession” but the UK economy is not “strong and stable”. He adds: “If this carries on for much longer I fear our country will continue to fall behind.”

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22288585

        • 26
          He's got a point says:

          Being .3% away from ‘recession’ isn’t exactly brilliant, is it?

        • 28
          wentonsam says:

          I think I need a bucket to mop up my drool. This is so exciting.

          • Will says:

            Whilst labour can criticize the figures I want to hear their plans for the economy, do they have a credible plan to improve the economy.

            Its a it like sending Mr quatada back to Jordan, they could have sent him back years ago, but instead try to blame the present gov for the problem.

            How do we improve our northern cities so they can once again have full employment, how can we improve London.

            this is why all parties need a kick in the ballot box.

          • wentonsam says:

            Why do you want to hear Labour’s potential policies? They aren’t in power, they can’t implement them. The only reason the Tories bang on about it is because they don’t want their own policies that they are actually implementing scrutinized. I think its much better for democracy to actually hold the government who are doing stuff on your behalf to account rather than the opposition. It’s just inconvenient for the Conservatives because under any real scrutiny they can’t defend their position and hence we’ve had shambles after shambles. They would rather have an esoteric and derogatory argument about what the Labour party would theoretically be doing if they were in power. If they can’t hack the responsibility of being in power and the scrutiny that entails they shouldn’t be there.

          • Curly says:

            ” If they can’t hack the responsibility of being in power and the scrutiny that entails they shouldn’t be there.”

            … and THAT, people, is precisely why the Labour lot were kicked out at the last election.

          • wentonsam says:

            Glad you agree…so therefore the Tories will lose the next election not having won the previous one.

            Simples.

  13. 18
    Marx says:

    Socialism.

    Think about it.

    • 23
      A vile, lying, cheating, arrogant bully, two-faced liar, economic illiterate & sanctimonious fuckwit says:

      Aye! Ah’ thank aboot it ev’ day!!!

  14. 19
    Conspiracy theory, moi? says:

    So, the audio feed in the House of Commons fails on BBC Parliament during Business Questions, so they switch coverage to Lord Patten and Tony Hall being questioned by the media committee. Just a couple of regular guys doing their best. All going swimmingly, the political appointment of Purnell batted away easily.
    Then when Sheridan asks whether Hall has signed a gagging order in his contract, and he says yes ‘because it’s just one of those small things always in a contract’ and Patten isn’t able to laugh it off when asked why its there, and whether it will be removed ….. Suddenly, as if by magic, the sound fades and back we go to the main chamber and Business Questions.
    How rather convenient.

    • 35
      Will says:

      The equal opportunities commission should take the BBC to court over its employment policies of just parachuting people in without an interview process.

      that’s why we have the same old faces running the BBC

  15. 21
    My Lord Kinnockio, Welsh Windbagger extraordinaire, scooping up loadsa €USSR Moolah! says:

    I said to Glunnios only the other day – didn’t I Glennis? – that that boyo Cameron is not the Air to Bliar – he’s the air to me!!! – I came before Bliar and he got all his good ideas from me!!!

    So he’s the Air to Kniickio – the Welsh Wissard – isn’t that what I said Glenda??? You heard me didn’t you???

  16. 27
    caeser adsum jam forte........ says:

    memento mori milbandus minor

  17. 30
    Raving Loon says:

    How did Cameron not achieve a majority against Gordon, a man who claimed he “saved the world” and abolished the business cycle?

  18. 31
    Casual Obvserver says:

    A worrying aspect to all this in the sense of sheep worrying:

    i) Why are the left so irked ? Or are they dropping PC niceties and just going back to their real character now that their wealthy backers are fleeing ?

    ii) Government GDP figures are always fudged positive, so without an error bar on the 0.3% we know that the growth was highly likely negative last quarter.

    But the elephant in the room is that the UK GDP change figures are tracking the broader Loser (Euro) Zone quite closely. Why is the UK still tracking and paying into the EU loser system ?

    • 40
      Anonymous says:

      I worked in an small eco system that lived under a “law” of growth. Whatever technology we created, if it did not fit with the marketing grown projections it was either not good enough, or too risky.

      So we went ahead at exactly the growth rate of the law. Every company maintained this idea and the whole industry grew in close formation. One company tried to buck the trend and the stock market classed them as a risk and they failed to get the needed money. They were only 4 years ahead of the rest in their announcements for a technology widely used today, but it was enough to destroy one of the UK’s leading companies.

      Do not underestimate the control of expectation. We do exactly what is expected and try harder when we fall short, and pull back when we surge ahead.

      The global economy is just that: a global expectation.

    • 42
      Will says:

      ed milliband has finally realised that the unions whilst bankrolling him, not intend to take over the party by stealth, I hope he remembers what happened at the GLC when Horace Cutler was ousted by Ken Livingston.

      Its not the opposition facing you he needs to worry about as he can see them its the backstabbers behind him, lucky the ides of march have passed.

      Et tu balls (as he stabbed in the back)

  19. 34
    The Odd Couple says:
    • 36
      Mr brown says:

      How come a politician who messed up his own country’s schools is given the job of looking after the world’s schools?

      And what do other countries think when Gordon tells them what they should be doing? Or does he come wiith an open wallet?

    • 37
      Jimmy says:

      Educating people to the joys of socialism no doubt.

    • 43
      Mitch says:

      Are they actually together in that photo or is it photoshopped?

  20. 38
    Norman Lucky Smith says:

    Ed Miliband isn’t lucky, err I mean he is lucky, err I’m not sure what I mean.

  21. 47
    Antipo-dean says:

    Asking politicians to use statistics correctly? You must be new around here.

  22. 50
    David B says:

    LabourList don’t take well to criticism and will block him on their website. It appears they do that to everyone who does not agree with their narrative. I have been permanently blocked for suggesting Ed’s reaction to John O’Farrel was poor.

    Anyone else blocked from their site and/or on Twitter? Perhaps, Guido, you could set up page we can leave our comments on!

    • 52
      JH349834905934 says:

      There is only one narrative, and that is the approved narrative.

      These people are just inchoate authoritarians who honestly believe they have the right to tell everyone what to do and say because they are oh-so-worthy and more perceptive that the common serf.

  23. 63
    Dur son of Dursson of Durrrr says:

    ““To read the report you’d think that the results were abnormally bad for Ed Miliband”

    Quite right. Ed Milliband’s results are usually that bad.


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