April 10th, 2013

Thatcher Tops Best PM Poll

An interesting poll for number crunchers in today’s Sun, not least because Margaret Thatcher is named as Britain’s most popular post-war PM. Dave scored a grand total of zero percent, suffering the indignity of coming behind Alec Douglas-Home. Tony Blair won three elections for the Labour Party but only 21% of Labour supporters felt he was the best post-war PM. Also notable that only 18 percent of Tories went for Churchill compared to 25%, 28% and 36% of Labour, LibDem and UKIP supporters respectively. The winner is clear…

Those results in full.


  1. 1
    Ghost of Greg Stone. says:

    But Churchill as a post war PM did not have the impact of when he was a wartime PM.


    • 3
      les says:



    • 10
      Tony Bliar resplendant in his white robes says:

      I did :)


      • 21
        Owen Wedgie Galloway Livingstone-Scargill says:

        You simply don’t hate people enough to be true tribal Socialist Guido


        • 26
          Spacker Brown says:

          Churchill doesn’t live on rent-free in Lefties’ otherwise empty heads. The Blessed Margaret does, and will continue to do so for generations to come.


          • Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

            Churchill only took on and fought and beat the National Socialists. Maggie took on and fought and beat the unions. Hard to say which of their two opponents did the biggest damage to Britain.


      • 23
        Bliar aka Cameron says:

        Beggar off, you lying warmonger.


        • 25
          Bliar aka Cameron says:

          Woops, sorry, should have indicated that my last comment was aimed at Tony Bliar resplendant in his white robes.


          • Tony Bliar resplendant in his white robes says:

            Its ok *waves hand*, I, I, I *stares….* knew you were talking, I say talking at me *waves hands* as you used the term warmonger, and as, as Alki Campbell wasnt on here I knew you meant, meant *stares* me.


    • 14
      Black fields are the new green fields says:

      I notice that fertile green fields are now becoming covered with black PV panels.

      Is this not obscene in a temperate climate such as ours where the land should utilise solar power to produce food?

      I can only assume this act of stupidity is egged on by green subsidies but how un-green can you get from this?


    • 35
      Gordon Brown says:

      My father was a vicar and I have a moral compass


    • 43
      Anonymous says:



    • 73
      realjimmy says:

      Does anyone ever wonder why it is that socialism when pushed far enough to become a totalitarian dictatorship has enormous problems making enough cars, clothes, fuel, finding engineers and businessmen to run things…. yet one thing they’re never short of is wonderfully enlightened people to work in re-education camps torturing people with pliers or further the socialist revolution by working in the death camps? One look at the twisted, hate-filled faces here glorying in someone’s death and you can see where such people come from:



    • 118

      Churchill was a great coalition prime minister but when he became a Conservative Prime Minister he was a shadow of his former self: even more of a chairman of the board than Attlee, a figurehead, not a leader. Hence his comparatively low showing among Conservatives.


  2. 2
    Gordon Brown says:

    Where the hell am I???



    • 6
      xxx god i hate this stupid moniker modbot says:

      You got 2% Gordon. That is much better than butch did.

      Speaks volumes for Cameron really.



  3. 4
    JH39042398432-0 says:

    Are you listening Dave?

    You see, people like leaders who actually lead and get the best for their own people, not those who just want to create a little club for them and their Euro-fanatic mates while ordinary people are impoverished.


  4. 5
    Red Len says:

    You missed out Gordon who was surprisingly sixth. Surely that’s worth a mention? Cameron on zero.


  5. 7
    les says:

    ‘Dave scored a grand total of zero percent’

    Fact is he is the only one still serving, so cannot be judged.


  6. 11
    A hospital patient says:

    BBC ticker:

    “MPs recalled from holidays for the Parliamentary session paying tribute to Baroness Thatcher can claim up to £3,750 in travel expenses”

    It’s the middle of April. Easter is long past. Why the fuck are they still on holiday?


  7. 12
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Mrs T didn’t draw a salary for the whole of her term in office. I wonder how many PM’s since then have done that?


  8. 16
    Ian 'the moose' Abrahams says:

    The Sun? eh right yes! Read by freethinkers and revisionist historians alike.
    Can you drugtakers not get over the Leaderene’s death?
    Ding Dong the witch is dead.


    • 22
      mum says:

      grow up


    • 62
      genghiz the kahn says:

      The Left have still to reflect on why Margaret Thatcher was able to win in 1979. Was it just due to her determination to bring about changes, or was it helped by intellectual and political vacuum of Lefty ideas which allowed closed shops, intimidation of flying pickets, open strike votes at mass meetings with a show of hands. The power cuts, the unburied dead, the uncollected refuse, the high rates of income tax and a bloated inefficient public sector didn’t act as great adverts for socialism Labour style.

      Add on the inflation of 24% during Wilson’s Premiership, and it isn’t hard to work out why voters elected Thatcher, not once, but three times.



      • 98

        Very well done, genghis. Labour have done a very good job of re-writing history, in that politically, the ’70’s never happened. Those students celebrating The Baroness’ demise did so with no context as to why she was elected not once but three times. Their show of hatred is similar to that of children dancing round the bonfire on Nov 5, with about as much understanding of the event. We remember, and the greatness of her legacy to our Nation is in the hands of old gits like us to keep alive.


    • 84
      yeah, right... says:

      Not much free thinking on the Grauniad, Ian.

      I think it’s the left that have the Margaret obession. Look at the way you all bleat endlessly about how your miserbale, impoverished lives are somehow her fault rather than a result of your own feckless indolence.

      Bet you still carp on about the inequity of the Corn Laws….


      • 111
        Ian 'the moose' Abrahams says:

        ‘Kinell, you Tory wets (lol) are clutching at grains of sand if you think that the Sun is a credible point of reference for justification of the Leaderene’s omnipotence. Whatever next Kelvin Mckenzie as minister for information?
        Now where’s that Derek Jarman DVD?


  9. 17
    Anonymous says:

    These polls don’t have much validity as regards the PMs of long ago. You would need to be well over 60 to realistically remember Churchill as PM. What is interesting is that “call me Dave” doesn’t get a look in!


    • 65
      Anonymous says:

      you say ‘interesting’, I say’predictable.


    • 91
      Tay King-dePisse says:

      Of course, many of the same people who hate and revile Margaret Thatcher and believe she was Satan incarnate (though they cannot even recall back to that time, being too young), also think Winston Churchill is a dog who sells automobile insurance. How much stock do you put in polls where a goodly number of those responding probably don’t even recognise many of the names– sure, Clement Attlee and Anthony Eden come up in the average person’s conversation all the time, right? And even if they know them just as names, akin to say, “Wat Tyler,” how many can recall the times in which those men served? I’m well past my first blush of youth, and I can only recall back to Macmillan, and only barely at that. I wouldn’t feel qualified to know about and express a view of Eden and Attlee except for what I’ve read– which is really all these young idiots know of Baroness Thatcher, innit?


  10. 20
    sum lefty wossname says:

    Outrageous! No Gordon Brown!

    Does no one remember how he introduced the 10p tax rate (and then scrapped it a year later)?

    Does no one remember how he introduced the 50p tax rate several weeks before being defeated at the general election, just so Labour could then blame the tories for letting the rich off the hook when they reduced it to 45p.


    • 99

      Does no one remember how Gordon’s 50p tax rate actually reduced the tax take? Labour make the poor poorer so that the rich can be less rich, one of the Baroness’ better quotes.


  11. 24
    Harold Wilson? says:

    WTF is Wilson doing there? He was shite, worse than Major, Brown and Dave.


  12. 27
    Taxpayers Alliance says:

    what do the taxpayers alliance have to say on this reported £10m cost of her funeral. More than all the MP’s expenses frauds put together which – rightly – exercised so many people.

    Surely it should be privatised at least to Serco or G4S?

    why is the taxpayer funding yet another millionaire. seems like double standards.



  13. 28
    SP4BS says:

    24% said “don’t know”.
    I wonder if thats “Don’t know the name of any prime minister.

    Its a bit like Michael Jackson or John Lennon going to number one after they die anyway.


  14. 29
    nellnewman says:

    Well Maggie told cameron he wasn’t unpopular enough – he scored 0% – would she regard that as unpopular enough?


  15. 31
    Gordon Brown says:

    This is a biased poll from the Murdoch press. Clearly they have attempted to eradicate my achievements. The great British public will not be fooled.


  16. 34
    @stuartglover says:

    Brown, the Prime Mentalist, got 2% which I believe is his best ever showing in a national poll.


  17. 42
    I was working as a cocktail in a waitress bar. says:

    For those who say ‘stop moaning, she was elected 3 times’ here’s gary younge on how she did it http://bit.ly/10QFpeH


  18. 44
    Rupe says:


    • 100
      Anonymous says:

      Changed the world? I suppose that was when she sent the troops in to liberate the satellite states of the USSR.


    • 104
      Residing in 97% white Merseyside says:

      Changed the world? I suppose that was when she sent the troops in to liberate the satellite states of the USSR.


      • 107
        Residing in 97% white Merseyside says:

        What’s going on? My first post seems to have to have disappeared into cyberspace, then returns given to Anon!


    • 106
      Mr Flibble says:


      Don’t see them around any more.

      Was there some point you were making?


      • 108
        Residing in 97% white Merseyside says:

        That didn’t collapse until she had moved from Downing St into a residential home.


  19. 49
    Probably says:

    the poll would be more meangingful if carried some years hence, when the dust has settled on her life and a more rounded appraisal of her impact on society and the country has been carried out. I would predict she would still be in the top two, but second to Churchill.

    Regardless of anyones political leanings, I think we can all agree call-me-dave will never register on a poll such as this. what a shell of a leader he is.


  20. 52
    Owin Jones says:

    Never more than 44%(Of the vote in any General Election). Good grief.


  21. 59
    Owen Jones says:

    Unlike you, I actually know all these people.


  22. 67
    Dan's the Man says:

    Read and digest.

    Dan Hodges IMHO should be a Labour MP, his party and his country would benefit immensely. And I am a Tory saying this.



  23. 68
    Rush-is-Right says:

    What I find extraordinary is the 6% who voted for Wilson. In fact it’s unbelievable.


  24. 74
    Jim says:

    Just seen the Order of Service for next weeks Carnival.
    The Tory bastards that shafted our beloved leader and booted her out are listed in alphabetical order.
    The first few rows in St Pauls have been reserved – Kenneth is leading the rabble.


    • 125
      Anonymous says:

      Talking about St Pauls, the ex chief there Giles Frazer( he flounced off when occupy werent allowed in) was almost wetting himself on the world at one with Martha. Saying the funeral was a political event ! he gets madder by the week, he is dire on “the moral maze” on R4. He is like an older version of Owen Jones !


  25. 77
    Gonk III says:

    2% for Gordon Brown is the most disturbing number in the
    history of western civilization.


    • 101
      Civilisation says:

      If you have been given the unfortunate impression that that the 2% comes from any of the civilised parts of this country, I can only apologise.


  26. 78
    Selohesra says:

    If Ding dong the witch is dead gets to No1 can we take that as evidence that those on benefits still have money to burn and justify some further cuts?


    • 90
      Labour is in denial(again) says:

      It will be interesting to see if “Little Red Ed” disassociates himself in the clearest and strongest from both the vile comments and this “gimmick” this afternoon. If not then we know Labour to have many members who are ignorant scum and that their actions have the official blessing of the Labour leader who is still in thrall to the unions just as his predecessors were in the 70’s and 80’s


  27. 80
    Vote UKIP says:

    Dump Damp Dave


  28. 81
    Jack the Ripper says:

    Heath had zero. Were minus numbers disallowed?


  29. 93
    fendel says:

    We are here to pay our respects to Lady Maggie, who brought us up properly and taught us loyalty.

    And if Dave doesn’t finish the job and get us out of the EU, she will most likely turn over in her grave and kick our teeth in.


  30. 102
    Ed P says:

    24% of Lib-Dems “don’t know”. That really sums up those waste-of-spaces.


  31. 116
    Joe Mcarthy says:

    Wilson was the best prime minister the KGB ever had !


  32. 117
    Jimmy says:

    “The winner is clear…”

    Loser’s even clearer.


  33. 119
    I hate Blue Labour says:

    1 in 10 thought Blair was the best PM?

    Good grief.


  34. 120
    (I've been renamed) DA-Notice says:

    Which fuckwits voted for Jonah?!


  35. 122
    Nemesis says:

    The only reason the witch received more than Churchill is because of the lack of education about history by the present day Tory cretins – oh, and of course the survey was done by the arse-wiping paper The Sun.


    • 128
      Brussels Broadcasting Corporation says:

      The survey was done by You Gov,you idolent,retarded socialist mong.Oh and go and have a wash,you stink.


  36. 129
    Tomlad says:

    About the only right vote in this Sun whitewash was 0% for Mr Slippery.( AKA Call Me Dave)


  37. 130
    Jim says:

    A ‘Sun’ poll, how interesting,
    I have just returned from an overseas business trip with, I am pleased to say, a large number of lucrative orders.
    Now ready for some relaxation.
    Is this site still dominated by Sun reading, Tory voting, political dummies?


  38. 131
    NPB says:

    Counter-productive Advertising dept.

    Please get rid of the AD for “Free anf fast Life Cover” which is floating on LHS of screen and obscuring text. Also making this comment hard to type, because I cannot see the whole text box”. I am using an Ipad, btw.


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