April 10th, 2013

Thatcher Tops Best PM Poll

An interesting poll for number crunchers in today’s Sun, not least because Margaret Thatcher is named as Britain’s most popular post-war PM. Dave scored a grand total of zero percent, suffering the indignity of coming behind Alec Douglas-Home. Tony Blair won three elections for the Labour Party but only 21% of Labour supporters felt he was the best post-war PM. Also notable that only 18 percent of Tories went for Churchill compared to 25%, 28% and 36% of Labour, LibDem and UKIP supporters respectively. The winner is clear…

Those results in full.

132 Comments

  1. 1
    Ghost of Greg Stone. says:

    But Churchill as a post war PM did not have the impact of when he was a wartime PM.

  2. 2
    Gordon Brown says:

    Where the hell am I???

    HULK,,, SMASH

  3. 3
    les says:

    True.

  4. 4
    JH39042398432-0 says:

    Are you listening Dave?

    You see, people like leaders who actually lead and get the best for their own people, not those who just want to create a little club for them and their Euro-fanatic mates while ordinary people are impoverished.

  5. 5
    Red Len says:

    You missed out Gordon who was surprisingly sixth. Surely that’s worth a mention? Cameron on zero.

  6. 6
    xxx god i hate this stupid moniker modbot says:

    You got 2% Gordon. That is much better than butch did.

    Speaks volumes for Cameron really.

    PMSL

  7. 7
    les says:

    ‘Dave scored a grand total of zero percent’

    Fact is he is the only one still serving, so cannot be judged.

  8. 8
    Gordon Brown says:

    I ended broom and rust apparently.

  9. 9
    Paniagua V1.1 says:

    Serving who exactly?

  10. 10
    Tony Bliar resplendant in his white robes says:

    I did :)

  11. 11
    A hospital patient says:

    BBC ticker:

    “MPs recalled from holidays for the Parliamentary session paying tribute to Baroness Thatcher can claim up to £3,750 in travel expenses”

    It’s the middle of April. Easter is long past. Why the fuck are they still on holiday?

  12. 12
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Mrs T didn’t draw a salary for the whole of her term in office. I wonder how many PM’s since then have done that?

  13. 13
    Steve Miliband says:

    He hasn’t got a ‘legacy’ yet. 2% for Gordon seems generous, must have asked Sarah, Jk Rowling and Eddie Izzard in their random poll.

  14. 14
    Black fields are the new green fields says:

    I notice that fertile green fields are now becoming covered with black PV panels.

    Is this not obscene in a temperate climate such as ours where the land should utilise solar power to produce food?

    I can only assume this act of stupidity is egged on by green subsidies but how un-green can you get from this?

  15. 15
    Paniagua V1.1 says:

    It’s called damage limitation

  16. 16
    Ian 'the moose' Abrahams says:

    The Sun? eh right yes! Read by freethinkers and revisionist historians alike.
    Can you drugtakers not get over the Leaderene’s death?
    Ding Dong the witch is dead.

  17. 17
    Anonymous says:

    These polls don’t have much validity as regards the PMs of long ago. You would need to be well over 60 to realistically remember Churchill as PM. What is interesting is that “call me Dave” doesn’t get a look in!

  18. 18
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Because the poor dears will have to cut their holidays at someone else’s villa short to get back for the funeral.

    I don’t know how they survive on their over-inflated salaries and expense accounts.

  19. 19
    herewegoagain says:

    She had a rich husband.

  20. 20
    sum lefty wossname says:

    Outrageous! No Gordon Brown!

    Does no one remember how he introduced the 10p tax rate (and then scrapped it a year later)?

    Does no one remember how he introduced the 50p tax rate several weeks before being defeated at the general election, just so Labour could then blame the tories for letting the rich off the hook when they reduced it to 45p.

  21. 21
    Owen Wedgie Galloway Livingstone-Scargill says:

    You simply don’t hate people enough to be true tribal Socialist Guido

  22. 22
    mum says:

    grow up

  23. 23
    Bliar aka Cameron says:

    Beggar off, you lying warmonger.

  24. 24
    Harold Wilson? says:

    WTF is Wilson doing there? He was shite, worse than Major, Brown and Dave.

  25. 25
    Bliar aka Cameron says:

    Woops, sorry, should have indicated that my last comment was aimed at Tony Bliar resplendant in his white robes.

  26. 26
    Spacker Brown says:

    Churchill doesn’t live on rent-free in Lefties’ otherwise empty heads. The Blessed Margaret does, and will continue to do so for generations to come.

  27. 27
    Taxpayers Alliance says:

    what do the taxpayers alliance have to say on this reported £10m cost of her funeral. More than all the MP’s expenses frauds put together which – rightly – exercised so many people.

    Surely it should be privatised at least to Serco or G4S?

    why is the taxpayer funding yet another millionaire. seems like double standards.

    VOTe UKIP

  28. 28
    SP4BS says:

    24% said “don’t know”.
    I wonder if thats “Don’t know the name of any prime minister.

    Its a bit like Michael Jackson or John Lennon going to number one after they die anyway.

  29. 29
    nellnewman says:

    Well Maggie told cameron he wasn’t unpopular enough – he scored 0% – would she regard that as unpopular enough?

  30. 30
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    But she was still entitled to draw a salary. She just chose not to.

  31. 31
    Gordon Brown says:

    This is a biased poll from the Murdoch press. Clearly they have attempted to eradicate my achievements. The great British public will not be fooled.

  32. 32
    Chucky Armani says:

    I will be the new Nigerian-British Obama, I shall be the best PM of all time.

    Just I shame I got caught out that my staff set up my Wiki entry and put all the references to the similarities between myself and Obama.

  33. 33
    Moonrat says:

    And started gloom and bust.

  34. 34
    @stuartglover says:

    Brown, the Prime Mentalist, got 2% which I believe is his best ever showing in a national poll.

  35. 35
    Gordon Brown says:

    My father was a vicar and I have a moral compass

  36. 36
    British Bulldog says:

    Eh? When a nation can not honour one of its greatest daughters then that nation does not deserve to exist.

  37. 37
    Tony Bliar resplendant in his white robes says:

    Its ok *waves hand*, I, I, I *stares….* knew you were talking, I say talking at me *waves hands* as you used the term warmonger, and as, as Alki Campbell wasnt on here I knew you meant, meant *stares* me.

  38. 38
    Gordon Brown says:

    But I saved the world, shurely I am the most loved Prime Mentalist of all time?

  39. 39
    Gordon Brown says:

    My todger always points south though.

  40. 40
    Dave who? says:

    Not really. Dave is not unpopular, he’s just ignored.

  41. 41
    Nadine Dorries says:

    More like Chris Eubank than Obama.

  42. 42
    I was working as a cocktail in a waitress bar. says:

    For those who say ‘stop moaning, she was elected 3 times’ here’s gary younge on how she did it http://bit.ly/10QFpeH

  43. 43
    Anonymous says:

    MAGGIE A RACIST….CLAIMS BY AUSTRALIAN POLITICIAN.

  44. 44
    Rupe says:

  45. 45
    Aussie says:

    G’Day ya pommie bastard

  46. 46
    Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

    Churchill only took on and fought and beat the National Socialists. Maggie took on and fought and beat the unions. Hard to say which of their two opponents did the biggest damage to Britain.

  47. 47
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Where’s the link?

  48. 48
    Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

    Racist!

  49. 49
    Probably says:

    the poll would be more meangingful if carried some years hence, when the dust has settled on her life and a more rounded appraisal of her impact on society and the country has been carried out. I would predict she would still be in the top two, but second to Churchill.

    Regardless of anyones political leanings, I think we can all agree call-me-dave will never register on a poll such as this. what a shell of a leader he is.

  50. 50
    Taxpayers Alliance says:

    just remember that when they bury Blair and you are asked to pay.

  51. 51
    Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

    Brown created doom and dust.

  52. 52
    Owin Jones says:

    Never more than 44%(Of the vote in any General Election). Good grief.

  53. 53
    Gordon Brown says:

    My +0% growth rates are a thing of legend.

  54. 54
    Anonymous says:

    what do Cameron and Thatcher have in common?

    they are both corpses.

  55. 55
    Brian Paddick says:

    I have one of those but I still claw my massive public sector pension in.

  56. 56
    The trash says:

    You would just be another thief on the make.

  57. 57
    Blue Circle Overcoat says:

    When is he coming for a fitting?

  58. 58
    The Hodge offshore trust says:

    But never towards Sarah

  59. 59
    Owen Jones says:

    Unlike you, I actually know all these people.

  60. 60
    Anonymous says:

    It is actually better than growing grain and then making biofuel from it.

    But 15% conversion PV panels are a waste of effort.

  61. 61
    An Abo says:

    Who gives a shit what some headline-seeking Aussie politician thinks?

  62. 62
    genghiz the kahn says:

    The Left have still to reflect on why Margaret Thatcher was able to win in 1979. Was it just due to her determination to bring about changes, or was it helped by intellectual and political vacuum of Lefty ideas which allowed closed shops, intimidation of flying pickets, open strike votes at mass meetings with a show of hands. The power cuts, the unburied dead, the uncollected refuse, the high rates of income tax and a bloated inefficient public sector didn’t act as great adverts for socialism Labour style.

    Add on the inflation of 24% during Wilson’s Premiership, and it isn’t hard to work out why voters elected Thatcher, not once, but three times.

    http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/education/Pages/inflation/timeline/chart.aspx

  63. 63
    Nworb Nodrog says:

    And when might that be?

  64. 64

    Can you imagine Ed M. CMD or Cleggy not drawing a salary because their partners are filthy rich, which they are? Neither can I.

  65. 65
    Anonymous says:

    you say ‘interesting’, I say’predictable.

  66. 66
    The Hodge offshore trust says:

    I’ll be breaking out the champers thats for sure

  67. 67
    Dan's the Man says:

    Read and digest.

    Dan Hodges IMHO should be a Labour MP, his party and his country would benefit immensely. And I am a Tory saying this.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100211461/if-labour-cant-show-restraint-today-it-will-say-more-about-them-than-it-does-about-margaret-thatcher/

  68. 68
    Rush-is-Right says:

    What I find extraordinary is the 6% who voted for Wilson. In fact it’s unbelievable.

  69. 69
    Taxpayers Alliance says:

    i am sure Guido will take the site down as a mark of respect

  70. 70
    An MP says:

    We don’t. That’s why so many of us take bribes.

  71. 71
    Anonymous says:

    they were fooled by your lot for long enough.

  72. 72
    yeah, right... says:

    Dare we ask where Gordon came?

  73. 73
    realjimmy says:

    Does anyone ever wonder why it is that socialism when pushed far enough to become a totalitarian dictatorship has enormous problems making enough cars, clothes, fuel, finding engineers and businessmen to run things…. yet one thing they’re never short of is wonderfully enlightened people to work in re-education camps torturing people with pliers or further the socialist revolution by working in the death camps? One look at the twisted, hate-filled faces here glorying in someone’s death and you can see where such people come from:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306165/Margaret-Thatcher-death-parties-The-Lefts-sick-celebration-Brixtons-streets.html

  74. 74
    Jim says:

    Just seen the Order of Service for next weeks Carnival.
    The Tory bastards that shafted our beloved leader and booted her out are listed in alphabetical order.
    The first few rows in St Pauls have been reserved – Kenneth is leading the rabble.

  75. 75
    Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

    Maybe because we are now ruled from Brussels?

  76. 76
    yeah, right... says:

    Himself and assorted, favoured old school friends, mainly.

  77. 77
    Gonk III says:

    2% for Gordon Brown is the most disturbing number in the
    history of western civilization.

  78. 78
    Selohesra says:

    If Ding dong the witch is dead gets to No1 can we take that as evidence that those on benefits still have money to burn and justify some further cuts?

  79. 79
    Half ounce of shag says:

    +1

    He was dire. Even Gordon and Major made better PMs than him.

    Having said that, at least he would not have banned smoking in public.

  80. 80
    Vote UKIP says:

    Dump Damp Dave

  81. 81
    Jack the Ripper says:

    Heath had zero. Were minus numbers disallowed?

  82. 82
    The snug says:

    The smokers’ vote has to go somewhere: it can’t go to Dave ‘1p off a pint will save the pub’.

  83. 83
    Paniagua V1.1 says:

    +1

  84. 84
    yeah, right... says:

    Not much free thinking on the Grauniad, Ian.

    I think it’s the left that have the Margaret obession. Look at the way you all bleat endlessly about how your miserbale, impoverished lives are somehow her fault rather than a result of your own feckless indolence.

    Bet you still carp on about the inequity of the Corn Laws….

  85. 85
    a non says:

    Wilson was at least paramount in the destruction of the Gannex Mac.

  86. 86
    yeah, right... says:

    Probably explaisn why we continue to get Labour governments.

    The people get the leaders they deserve…

  87. 87
    Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

    Nah keep him. They will just get another Labour-lite clone to replace him.

  88. 88
    Yet again the BBC does what it wants says:

    The BBC has tried to airbrush Wilson’s pipe out of history. Which is absolutely ridiculous, his pipe was his trade mark.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2277847/So-did-BBC-chiefs-rob-Harold-Wilson-pipe-Questions-asked-PM-s-smoking-played-new-documentary.html

  89. 89
    SP4BS says:

    Before or after he’s died?

  90. 90
    Labour is in denial(again) says:

    It will be interesting to see if “Little Red Ed” disassociates himself in the clearest and strongest from both the vile comments and this “gimmick” this afternoon. If not then we know Labour to have many members who are ignorant scum and that their actions have the official blessing of the Labour leader who is still in thrall to the unions just as his predecessors were in the 70’s and 80’s

  91. 91
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Of course, many of the same people who hate and revile Margaret Thatcher and believe she was Satan incarnate (though they cannot even recall back to that time, being too young), also think Winston Churchill is a dog who sells automobile insurance. How much stock do you put in polls where a goodly number of those responding probably don’t even recognise many of the names– sure, Clement Attlee and Anthony Eden come up in the average person’s conversation all the time, right? And even if they know them just as names, akin to say, “Wat Tyler,” how many can recall the times in which those men served? I’m well past my first blush of youth, and I can only recall back to Macmillan, and only barely at that. I wouldn’t feel qualified to know about and express a view of Eden and Attlee except for what I’ve read– which is really all these young idiots know of Baroness Thatcher, innit?

  92. 92
    Bazinga! says:

    Because when they are on holiday they can’t fuck anything up.

  93. 93
    fendel says:

    We are here to pay our respects to Lady Maggie, who brought us up properly and taught us loyalty.

    And if Dave doesn’t finish the job and get us out of the EU, she will most likely turn over in her grave and kick our teeth in.

  94. 94
    bergen says:

    Ted wasn’t divisive. Everyone thought he was crap.

  95. 95
    The snug says:

    No-one watches the BBC in here

  96. 96
    Parents Should Love Their Children says:

    Dave was not brought up properly. He went to Eton.

  97. 97
    fendel says:

    Terrible shame that. Was probably the type of chap that had to warm Mr. Bridger’s toilet seat and iron his newspaper in his earlier years.

  98. 98

    Very well done, genghis. Labour have done a very good job of re-writing history, in that politically, the ’70’s never happened. Those students celebrating The Baroness’ demise did so with no context as to why she was elected not once but three times. Their show of hatred is similar to that of children dancing round the bonfire on Nov 5, with about as much understanding of the event. We remember, and the greatness of her legacy to our Nation is in the hands of old gits like us to keep alive.

  99. 99

    Does no one remember how Gordon’s 50p tax rate actually reduced the tax take? Labour make the poor poorer so that the rich can be less rich, one of the Baroness’ better quotes.

  100. 100
    Anonymous says:

    Changed the world? I suppose that was when she sent the troops in to liberate the satellite states of the USSR.

  101. 101
    Civilisation says:

    If you have been given the unfortunate impression that that the 2% comes from any of the civilised parts of this country, I can only apologise.

  102. 102
    Ed P says:

    24% of Lib-Dems “don’t know”. That really sums up those waste-of-spaces.

  103. 103
    Anonymous says:

    fine if the country chooses. Decision of a few political dumplings do not represent the country – despite their claims.

    Such funerals should be funded by public donation.

  104. 104
    Residing in 97% white Merseyside says:

    Changed the world? I suppose that was when she sent the troops in to liberate the satellite states of the USSR.

  105. 105

    I’ll do the job for them, special discount with Gordon as a job-lot. And when was Traitor Blair one of the Nations greatest anythings?

  106. 106
    Mr Flibble says:

    USSR?

    Don’t see them around any more.

    Was there some point you were making?

  107. 107
    Residing in 97% white Merseyside says:

    What’s going on? My first post seems to have to have disappeared into cyberspace, then returns given to Anon!

  108. 108
    Residing in 97% white Merseyside says:

    That didn’t collapse until she had moved from Downing St into a residential home.

  109. 109
    Residing in 97% white Merseyside says:

    He should have been brought up in Estonia.

  110. 110
    Residing in 97% white Merseyside says:

    I voted for Mr Heath in the first 1974 election because I had sympathy for him.

  111. 111
    Ian 'the moose' Abrahams says:

    ‘Kinell, you Tory wets (lol) are clutching at grains of sand if you think that the Sun is a credible point of reference for justification of the Leaderene’s omnipotence. Whatever next Kelvin Mckenzie as minister for information?
    Now where’s that Derek Jarman DVD?

  112. 112
    A Nanthopologist says:

    The Estonians don’t like traitors.

  113. 113
    arseholes says:

    I’m surprised it was so high

  114. 114
    Concerned for my fellow man says:

    Are you bumping off the efnicks,cos ur % seems to fluctuate??????

  115. 115
    Airey Belvoir says:

    Dave does come out in polls well ahead of our fuckwit PM-in-waiting Ed Miliband. Not a great achievement,admittedly.

  116. 116
    Joe Mcarthy says:

    Wilson was the best prime minister the KGB ever had !

  117. 117
    Jimmy says:

    “The winner is clear…”

    Loser’s even clearer.

  118. 118

    Churchill was a great coalition prime minister but when he became a Conservative Prime Minister he was a shadow of his former self: even more of a chairman of the board than Attlee, a figurehead, not a leader. Hence his comparatively low showing among Conservatives.

  119. 119
    I hate Blue Labour says:

    1 in 10 thought Blair was the best PM?

    Good grief.

  120. 120
    (I've been renamed) DA-Notice says:

    Which fuckwits voted for Jonah?!

  121. 121
    Oliver says:

    MT’s majority averaged at 96, Blair’s a whopping 137.
    TB for a state funeral too then!

  122. 122
    Nemesis says:

    The only reason the witch received more than Churchill is because of the lack of education about history by the present day Tory cretins – oh, and of course the survey was done by the arse-wiping paper The Sun.

  123. 123
    Anonymous says:

    He is still PM, people were voting for ex PMs.

  124. 124
    Anonymous says:

    If ukip think a funeral will cost £10m, ffs dont ever let them near the economy they will be easy meat for con men !

  125. 125
    Anonymous says:

    Talking about St Pauls, the ex chief there Giles Frazer( he flounced off when occupy werent allowed in) was almost wetting himself on the world at one with Martha. Saying the funeral was a political event ! he gets madder by the week, he is dire on “the moral maze” on R4. He is like an older version of Owen Jones !

  126. 126
    Anonymous says:

    No he was called Philpott.

  127. 127
    MrTyke says:

    School Holidays?

  128. 128
    Brussels Broadcasting Corporation says:

    The survey was done by You Gov,you idolent,retarded socialist mong.Oh and go and have a wash,you stink.

  129. 129
    Tomlad says:

    About the only right vote in this Sun whitewash was 0% for Mr Slippery.( AKA Call Me Dave)

  130. 130
    Jim says:

    A ‘Sun’ poll, how interesting,
    I have just returned from an overseas business trip with, I am pleased to say, a large number of lucrative orders.
    Now ready for some relaxation.
    Is this site still dominated by Sun reading, Tory voting, political dummies?

  131. 131
    NPB says:

    Counter-productive Advertising dept.

    Please get rid of the AD for “Free anf fast Life Cover” which is floating on LHS of screen and obscuring text. Also making this comment hard to type, because I cannot see the whole text box”. I am using an Ipad, btw.

  132. 132
    White Wash. says:

    Australia – built on an official White Australia policy. Now they have an unofficial one. It’s easy getting OUT of Australia with a tan. Just try getting in with one.


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