April 2nd, 2013

IDS Hits Back: I’ve Lived On £53

IDS has told his local paper: “I have been unemployed twice in my life so I have already done this. I know what it is like to live on the breadline.” He says the petition “is a complete stunt which distracts attention from the welfare reforms which are much more important and which I have been working hard to get done.” The quiet man is turning up the volume.


  1. 1
    Ivor Biggan says:


  2. 2
    Boris McWhirter says:

    The quiet man is a twat.

    • 4
      your average plebby taxpayer says:


      • 10
        P l e b says:

        He started out at the age of 21 with six years of taxpayer-funded military service, during which he acted as bag-carrier to a Major-General.

        Then in 1981, aged 27, he left the Army and signed on the dole for several months.

        He then began a period of ordinary work based upon the skills he had gained at the taxpayer’s expense, and worked in sales for arms dealer GEC-Marconi.

        He then moved on to a property firm, where he was made redundant after six months, and then sold gun-related magazines for Jane’s Information Group.

        After 11 years of this all-too brief career he succeeded in once again boarding the publicly-funded gravy train in 1992.

        In the intervening 20 years he has been paid by the taxpayer every year more money than most taxpayers earn. He has topped it up, along the way, to more than six figures for a few years here and there by being more pompous than the other pigs.

        In 2001 he helped his unemployed wife to have a suckle, arranging for you to pay her £15,000 to be his diary secretary.

        These days he is given the grand total of £134,565 a year from the taxpayer.

        He lives for free in a £2million Tudor farmhouse on his father-in-law’s ancestral estate in Buckinghamshire.

        He has three acres of land, a tennis court, swimming pool and some orchards, which is not bad for a life in the pay of the state.

        ‘Who is this scumbag?’ you might cry. ‘Tell us his name, let the authorities know his address, let’s get this guzzler out of the cushy life and show him what life is like for the rest of us,earning £7 an hour with a rise once every eight years and a pension consisting entirely of penny sweets if you’re lucky.’

        His name is Iain Duncan Smith, and his address is the Palace of Westminster, London SW1A 0AA

        • 17
          Long John Silver's parrot says:

          You sound a tiny tad jealous to me.

          • P l e b says:

            No just pointing out his addiction to someone else’s tit.

          • Anonymous says:

            Don’t see owt wrong with that. 6 years in the military – good for him.

            Do you so stupid as to think that members of the Armed Services should work for free?

          • Honest View says:

            It’s called ENVY. Jealous is what Othello was, that is over-possessive and blind to all reality.
            By the way, this £53 nonsense: the bloke on the radio actually hdd JSA of £70-odd, but juggled the fact that he would not receive his previous housing benefit because he had spare rooms into a “reduction” of this down to £53, unchallenged on Toady, of course.
            This is such nonsense, of course. No-one seems to calculate the worth of the total benefits package. The recipients are of course anxious to present the lowest sum to the world in order to appear hard done by. But if you have housing benefit of, say, £150 a week, your basic “wage” is around £220 net at least. I imagine there are other goodies, such as council tax benefit (i.e. not having to pay it) which are hardly dragged out into the light of the day by “BUT LABOUR SAYS” Beeboids.
            I don’t think I have heard one interview in which the amount of the total benefits package was pursued at all.

        • 22
          your average plebby taxpayer says:

          so what. cut all benefits in half

        • 39
          Benny Fits says:

          Yeah, but at least he’s not a demented warmongering piece of shit like Blair.

          • Spartacus says:

            Pardon? I’m still waiting for ids to apologise to the British people for rubber stamping b-liar’s oil grab in iraq.

          • The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

            Are you really. Spartacus or just another imposter to. Kirk. Douglas’. Rightful throne ??

        • 42

          P l e b:

          You bemoan that a man was paid for serving in the forces and also begrudge soldiers’ their “training”.

          Do you have an alternative message for those currently serving?

          • Anonymous says:

            Yeah cache your arms when you get made redundant, you’ll need them to fight off the eastern europeans in the shit holes you’ll be resettled in.

          • Nemesis says:

            either you are terribly well off and have a fantastically paid job because you woudnt be so cock sure If you were to lose your Job, become sick, or God forbid become disabled and had to rely on assistance. there wont be a welfare system to help you out.Pratt. Sure that’s not you george Osborne talking all that guff.

        • 51
          Anonymous says:

          Fairly typical CV of the political gravy train elite, make sure the public fund as much of their ‘training’ as possible network till they drop, usually fall flat in the real world and then look to pop back into the Westminster bubble ideally using the network contacts from stage one. The place is full of them LibLabCon really no difference. The simple fact is he could not live in any semblance of his current life on £53 and that at no point in his life has he ever had nothing else to fall back on than £53 in state hand outs. He’s a moron, who is about to piss away more public money on his new computer system for the new combined benefit than he’ll save. State charity needs cutting and redirecting to move people to independence but IDs is not the man to do it.

          • Sceptical says:

            Sorry to disappoint you, anon, but IDS is doing it, right now and in real time. It will make a huge difference and no subsequent government will reverse it. Enjoy!

          • Honest View says:

            Doesn’t sound like you are either; IFDS is at least a gentleman, whereas you are foul-mouthed and incoherent. Maybe you’re scared that the benefits lifestyle you enjoy is being scutinised. I may be wrong; you may be hard-working and taxpaying; but we’ll never really know.

        • 84
          david taylor says:

          So what you are saying is that he has served the country for almost his entire life, from serving in the armed forces to being a public servant.. and that is apparently a bad thing?

          Are all public servants and armed forces members are ‘sucking the tit of the tax payer?’

          • Maqboul says:

            To a lefty beeboid, aye.

          • Green eyed monster says:

            If he was left of center you’d be decrying his ‘public service’ (other than his military ‘service’) and his wife’s “Diary secretary” wages as being yet more public sector teat suckling.

            His serial lying about his CV is pretty pathetic too.

          • Anonymous says:

            Er, he’s been a MP for years. He left the army in his 20s.

        • 114
          Wyle Cop says:

          You ‘wrote’ all this yesterday. Must do better than copy’n’paste.

        • 162
          Mike says:

          IDS attended HMS Conway , a school for training Merchant Navy Officers which was very tough. IDS spent 6 years in the Scots Guards , recognised for being tough and competent. The experience of being made redundant has probably helped him. His time in the Scots Guards probably helped him to understand some of the problems of the people living in the Easterhouse Estate in Glasgow.

        • 172
          footballer with man u says:

          I earn more than IDS IN 3 DAYS

        • 262
          Handycock No1 Trougher in Parliament says:

          Jesus Christ, he is troughing even more than me! I am going to have to do something about this. Boaz.

        • 265
          Frightened Inmate #2 says:

          He joined the Scots Guards in ’75 as 2nd Lieutenant and was promoted to Lieutenant in ’77 after a normal two years. However he was still a Lieutenant in ’81 when he resigned his commission – despite having served as an general’s aide-de-camp and having no job lined up and having to sign on.

          It seems the Army had rumbled by now that he was completely useless and told him to GTFO. I can’t see why else you’d leave under those circumstances.

  3. 3
    Anonymous says:

    Too busy to give attention to a petition, but not too busy to make stupid comments on TV suggesting it’s easy to live on £53 a week.


    • 40
      Benny Fits says:

      Peter Mandelson in the last Labour government: “I am perfectly relaxed about people becoming filthy rich”.

    • 135
      Bullers says:

      IDS is the quiet man but he has found away to make a big noise without shouting, it’s called positive feedback, place a microphone near a speaker connected to the same amplifier, boy it gives off a loud noise. Positive feedback means that there is an instability introduced into the system, enough said

    • 173
      Anonymous says:

      Apparently it turns out its £53 a week after rent and bills have been paid, so what is so hard about that. He can always scratch around on rubbish tips like you see so many doing when you go through central London as well.(with rags tied around his feet)

  4. 4
    Anonymous says:

    I really do not believe he depended on benefits, EVER. Yes, he may have claimed it, but I’d bet anything he had a safety net of either family or friends, no rent to pay, no gas/electricity meters to feed, someone else buying his food.

    • 9
      your average plebby taxpayer says:

      so what. Cut all benefits in half

    • 103
      CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

      Whereas you’ve build a dependency on your addiction to OPM.

      It would be better to cut all cash benefits and deliver food though. After all the shirking classes are the most obese (and thus will cost the NHS most).

      • 140
        Bullers says:

        After all the shirking classes are the most obese” I didn’t know that Eric Pickles was poor and deprived

  5. 6
    Hague says:

    It’s not a distraction. If he thinks he can get by on £53 let’s cut his “benefits”

  6. 7
    Ian Dunderhead Simpkins says:

    £39 for a breakfast ? Breadline ?

  7. 8
    Anonymous says:

    Nice one Ian!!

  8. 11
    Wayne says:

    Sky TV is a human right, not a luxury.

    • 85
      Spacker Brown says:

      Count the number of iPhones in use by those smoking fags outside your local job centre. Amazing how far £53 will stretch.

      • 152
        Nogbad the Bad says:

        Add in the cost of the Methodone, the “respite” holidays and those single crutches that get left on buses, and the figures come in at plenty more than that.

        This whole £53 bollocks is irrelevant.

        The people voted for MP’s who formed a Government.

        If the people wanted to throw more money at benefit-junkie chav-scum, the Labour Party would still be in power, and “led” by Gordon Brown.

      • 174
        Anonymous says:

        Yes amazing isnt it, and none of them look half starved !

        • 203
          Honest View says:

          The only, thin, haggard, waif-like figures in the streets are drug addicts. Benefitees seem on the whole well-fed and clothed, and capable of affording cigs and overpriced coffees. Now it may be that all the prampushers who are loading up their supermarket trollies are the spouses of bankers, but I doubt it.
          Well, good luck to them if they can live a happy if unspectacukar life at the expense of taxpayers, but I don’t want my intelligence insulted by Labour mock-sorrow at the destitution we are supposed to see around us.
          Go to to India or Africa and then call what you see poverty.

          • The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

            You are only the spouse of a banker in. London if you deign to be seen in a Kings road. Supermarket with at the very minimum one subservient maid in tow pushing the trolley and filling it at your command .

            Obviously not even a glimpse of any offspring who are to. Be seen and never heard and are the sole preserve of the Nanny back in. Flood street and eventually, prep school.

            There. .. That should allow all. To separate the. Prime from the. Pram Face

  9. 13
    Tony Blair (Loaded) says:

    I went into my bank yesterday and asked the cashier if she could increase the amount I can withdraw from the ATM, she obviously didn’t recognise me and asked if I earn more than 25,000 pounds, I replied, “some days I do and some days I don’t”!

  10. 14
    Danny says:

    In a 2 million pound inherited mansion.

    • 58
      The Countess of Wythenshawe says:

      Socialism is the politics of envy .

      • 124
        Reforming Welfare without Reforming Parliament is Folly says:

        Sometimes, probably yes. Envy is a very human emotion, like greed and pride. You can’t deny human beings the right to feel it.

        In any event, I am not a socialist, but even I can see the stupidity in people who have inherited their wealth lecturing the rest of society on the merits of hard work and seeking to unpick the fabric of the social contract, ( whether for good or ill ), without the necessary democratic legitimacy.

        • 176
          Anonymous says:

          I dont think anybody is being lectured, FFS lighten up im becoming really p*ssed with the faux indignation here, the thicko in charge of labour would have to do the same.

          • Honest View says:

            And, in 2 years’ time, he will have to. I quite look forward to seeing the contortions of the Left when they actually have to deal with the reality of expenditure being way beyond income.
            I anticipate the re-enactment of the old Labour trick of ruining the economy, except this time it’s not recovered from the last Labour shambles.
            So it could be a spectacular collapse this time.

    • 132
      Helpful says:

      Are you talking about Miliband there?

  11. 15
    Anonymous says:

    Nice one Ian my boy!

  12. 19

    £53 quid a week..I spend more than that on fags!

    • 222
      Spartacus says:

      i bet you have several lovers and more than ten children too

      must be boring watching day time telly all day . . . oh, right, all those children . . .

  13. 20
    Your taxes keep this guy in cider and ciggies says:

  14. 21
    bit.ly says:

    IDS – an utter gobshite

    • 32
      Fact of Life says:

      On account that about 1 and a half million unemployed people live on 53 quid a week proves it can be done, unless of course, they’re moonlighting!

      • 100
        Maqboul says:

        The three generations of the benefits family what live next door to my old mam do up cars for an extra living. They’ve got a fucking fully tooled up workshop in the garden and three flash motors parked in the street.

        Why do the leftards defend these cynical fuckers?

        • 206
          Honest View says:

          Because there’s votes in rushing to the aid of “the most vulnerable”. There’s a lot of ‘em.

    • 59
      P l e b says:

      What did people expect from this sick excuse of a human being? Osborne, Cameron, IDS, Gove, Thatcher et al, they all should,ve been strangled at birth. The whole fucking lot of them. Evil bastards whose only deity is greed and Mammon

      • 67
        Benny Fits says:

        Peter Mandelson: “I am perfectly relaxed about people becoming filthy rich”.

        Tony Blair: Pocketed an estimated $50-90 million from Iraq.

        Margaret Moran: charged dry rot repair to the taxpayer.

        Alistair Campbell: Falsified evidence in war dossier. Smeared Dr K.

        Gordon Brown & Damien McBride: Planned smear campaign against spouses of political opponents.

      • 105
        I have a dream says:

        So what. Cut all benefits in half

        • 229
          The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

          Could we. Not. Just pay all these benefits in. Bit coin currency .

          That surely would reduce our forward benefits commitments at a stroke and bring the books. Back into. Balance.

          As. Bit coin is not recognised. By. BOE. And would thus. Be an Enron style off balance. Sheet operation.

          Slow off the. Mark there. Gideon …

      • 108
        CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

        I’d have thought working and keeping the proceeds vastly less greedy than not doing anything useful for society and then extorting it.

        Selling you vote to someone who promises to rob your fellow citizens is the most greedy thing there is.

      • 178
        Anonymous says:

        Im afraid you are the sick excuse for a human being, making such unhinged comments about total strangers.Do you actually work, or are you frightened you might have to, as they are on to you ?GOOD !

      • 207
        Honest View says:

        Why are the Left (I imagine your views must be Leftish,at least) such vile, hate-filled, bile-spewing, nasty, nasty,nasty people?
        I haven’t heard one Conservative politician say, “I’m sick of these ill-bred, talentless, idle layabouts sponging off the efforts of the hardworking, the inventive, the skilled and the thrifty, and I’m damn glad I don’t have to mix with them or suck up to them for their votes!”
        Apparently it’s OK for you to wish deaths on “toffs”, but not Ok for “toffs” to despise the great unwashed. You want a monopoly in hate and contempt. Well, you haven’t got it.

        • 230
          The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

          ROBERT. DE. NIRO SAYS:

          You talkin. Tah. Me. ? Meee??

    • 126
      Anonymous says:

      Gobshite is such a regional word.

  15. 23
    A W_G says:

    He’s got a point, you can live on £53 per week after your bills have been paid . . . . .yes you’re not going to live a life of luxury, but you will get by . . . . . want more, get a job and go to work!

    • 26
      Benny Fits says:

      • 231
        The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

        This one is not sub human

        She is just on a combination of. Cloud nine. Cloud cuckoo land. And mothers. Little helper.

        As appears to. Be her. Daughter.

    • 30
      OnTablets says:

      Usual misinformed bollocks. From the £53 you have to pay for gas, electric, water, and now Council Tax if you lose the benefit.
      You need to bone up on what the benefits actually pay for.

    • 75
      A Reader says:

      It is all a matter of time. I could live on less than £53 a week for a few weeks if I was between jobs. I would not be able to live on £53 a week for the rest of my life.

      • 109
        IDS says:

        Got it in one, Reader– bravo! Whether you realise it or not.

        And, d-u-u-h-h-h, you scroungers who haven’t cottoned on as this poster has seemingly done, you’re not supposed to be living on fifty-three quid per week the rest of your life, now are you?

        • 188
          Anonymous says:

          Exactly, its a safety net, meant to tide you over losing your job not a career choice. Also dont people “save for a rainy day “any more ? so you would have some financial back up until you get work, that doesnt seem to occur to anybody today.

    • 181
      Anonymous says:

      If the man on the market stall only makes £2,700 a year for 50 to 70 hours a week he is obviously in the wrong job ! what sort of stall was it ?

      • 233
        The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

        Obviously a stall giving work to poor. Miserable trafficked. Illegal wretches from. The Sinai region. Working all the hours. God sends for a pittance in order to pay back the ransom money to their kidnappers. .

        Obviously NOT. Yr common or garden. Harry Takeallthatsgoing bod .

        • 235
          The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

          Shame. Moddy. !!!

          These people really exist and some are in uk

          Just ask. The freedom from torture charities in north. London .

      • 256
        Pilot says:

        The tale-spin type? [geddit?]

  16. 25
    Anonymous says:

    he didnt have to pay bedroom tax and part of the council tax back then

    • 29
      Benny Fits says:

      Hi. As you’re clearly a Labour voter/party activist, given your use of the bedroom tax line, can you please tell me why Labour waited 13 years before introducing a tax on the rich in the LAST 3 WEEKS OF THE LABOUR GOVERNMENT? Also please explain Peter Mandelson’s line: “I’m perfectly relaxed about people becoming filthy rich”. Thanks.

    • 88
      EU Housing Commissar says:

      No-one has to pay a bedroom tax. It does not exist.

      By the way, if you have a spare room, please do us me know about it, as there are a number of Romanians who will need somewhere to stay in the coming months.

    • 115
      CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

      He wouldn’t have to you ONLY get less money if it would’ve been subsidising a spare room i.e. the benefits are for non-essentials like extra space, that another family could probably utilise better.

      Labour, the party for waste and wasters.

      • 190
        Anonymous says:

        Its strange that nobody has shown the big families living in cramped conditions or in B&B s. You would have thought Labour would have been interested in them wouldnt you, but all we get is gran cant have her 10 grandkids to stay once everyblue moon if she moves to a smaller house !

        • 209
          Honest View says:

          Actually, Anon, it’s no real surprise. They’re not interested in fairness, simply in stirring up their client vote into mindless hatred of the “nasty” Tories A few simple phrases, repeated ad nauseam, will do the trick.

        • 254
          Con Artists says:

          No photos of cramped B&B’s because it would backfire on Liebor…. that’s why


          Any more photos like that and Liebor voters might just awaken from their Lidl own brand extra strong lager induced stupor to realise they are being kicked out of their house to make way for our new friends and their big families…

  17. 27
    Who in their right mind aspires to be a scabby old socialist bag.? says:

    These socialists are so full of shit. They fail to understand that they are part of the problem and not the solution. Hence the need to commit mass genocide on them asap. They are time wasters, scroungers & losers. Meddle, meddle & meddle until the problem is a hundred times worse. That is all they are good for. I am sick fed up sharing the same air as the socialist scum.

    • 45
      Baroness Scotland says:

      Kill socialists before they kill us . They have form – 200 million times over last century at least

    • 119
      CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

      No need for genocide, that’s the marxist way.

      Just allow people to decide whether their sob story rings true (genuine charity), and let them build up savings for any problems without being robbed by inflation.

      If they decide not to save, and not to be worthy of voluntary charity then they only have themselves to blame, to force others to subsidise their lifestyle would be immoral as well as encourage more fecklessness.

  18. 28
    Go johnny go says:

    Once again the Tory rich are getting a tax cut, the poor are being punished !!

    Cameron’s lot are finished, roll on 2015 !

  19. 34
    Anonymous says:

    Put every one who thinks they are never going to end up unemployed on benefits. Let them work for benefit amount. Better still give me their job.I’m more than happy to swap benefits for paid work. Thought there would be no takers. Put up or shut up.

    • 48
      Benny Fits says:

      I’ve been on benefits. It wasn’t nice and it’s not meant to be. It’s supposed to be a safety net, not a way of life. It gives you enough to survive but not a high quality of life. That’s why it’s an incentive to find work. What was intended as a safety net has been abused. You should not get more in benefits than you would in a job.

    • 56
      Garghhhhhhh says:

      Why would I want to swap my job to live off benefits?
      Apart from the pride aspect of not needing to take benefits, the main reason I have a job, is so that I don’t have to live on the breadline……….

      Living off benefits, shouldn’t be seen as a viable option, it should only be there as a safety net.

    • 94
      Small Business says:

      I have, on a number of ocassions, offered casual paid emplyment to people on benefits. It is surprising how often they have to be pursuaded to take up the offer of work.

      • 137
        Curly says:

        Probably because what they earn will be set against their allowances – so no point really.

        • 153
          Garghhhhhhh says:

          and therein lies another problem ….. no incentive to take up a temporary job (to gain experience), because they will lose their benefits and have to wait for them to kick in again, it’s an endless cycle.
          That, no doubt is a whole new argument to consider.

          Still no excuse for not taking up permanent work if available however!

    • 123
      CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

      S A V I N G S
      I N S U R A N C E

      Two words the shirking classes should be introduced to.

  20. 41
    Blob Crow says:


  21. 44
    For the record says:

    “I will tell you what is true” says Osborne – FFS.

    What is true is that the financial genius that is Osborne stated back in 2007 that he would match Labour’s spending pound for pound.

    He also stated just before Ireland went tits up that he applauded their economic model.

    Osborne is nothing more than a discredited opportunist who couldn’t tell the truth even if his life depended on it.

    • 57
      Anonymous says:

      Ditto the other 649 of them.

      • 83
        Abdel from Tooting says:

        “I will tell you what is true”

        When someone is quoted like this there is a clear implication that some large lies come with his baggage.

  22. 46
    The Right Honourable George Osborne MP says:

    We are on the side of hard working families, we need people to get off benefits and into work.

    I’ve just been handed a list of jobs available and _______ohhhh Christ.

    Get me Hoban on the phone !!

    • 64
      The Boy Plunger says:

      How many hard working families do you know ?

      Name three so that we can go and see them ?

      • 81
        Go Johnny go says:

        The Smiths, Cameron’s and the Cleggs.

        • 141
          Curly says:

          That greengrocer with the stall in the market mentioned on here earlier would be most grateful if you would please return his apostrophe.

  23. 49
    Sir William Wade says:

    One of my ancestors lived on £53 a week for a time, but then was in the 1680s.

  24. 52
    NMac says:

    Duncan-Smith, the liar, is proving beyond doubt that he is a fool, but a dangerous fool.

    • 54
      Sir William Wade says:

      You can easily live on £53 a week benefits if you get a job.

    • 55
      Benny Fits says:

      We need more decent policies, like when Labour raised pensions by 10p a week.

    • 65
      P l e b says:

      Is it not somewhat hypocritical of someone born with a silver spoon up his @rse & who spent all his time sponging off mummy & daddy until they got sick of dishing out handouts & bought him a career in politics, to be lecturing others about benefits?

      • 70
        Benny Fits says:

        Peter Mandelson: ““I am perfectly relaxed about people becoming filthy rich”.

        • 78
          Abdel from Tooting says:

          What is so wrong with getting up in the morning and making money ?

          What are people’s objections?

      • 210
        Honest View says:

        I suppose you mean that coming from a comfortably off family should exclude you from a political career? That all politicians MUST by law come from the gutter? Hmm… Where does that leave the Labour front bench?

  25. 60
    Moussa Koussa Mark 8 says:

    Poor neo nuts….its isnt gonna help you

    • 61
      Benny Fits says:

      Peter Mandelson: “I am perfectly relaxed about people becoming filthy rich”.

  26. 68
    Jess The Dog says:

    Dunker’s £53 would have been around £150 if the relative value of prices is considered. He really is clueless.

  27. 69
    Ivor Ramsbottom says:

    Can quite believe it. There is no expense spared on haircuts.

  28. 72
    Moussa Koussa Mark 8 says:

    The fight back seems to consist of being more nasty than usual

    Good Luck with that one.

    The UK isn’t full of Neo Nut Texas style loons.

    You think it is, but it isn’t !!!!!

    • 76
      Benny Fits says:

      Peter Mandelson: “I am perfectly relaxed about people becoming filthy rich”.

    • 93
      Anonymous says:

      No just stinking thieving asian muslim terrorists.

    • 134
      Sick of BBC propaganda says:

      Try speaking to a the ordinary Briton who works for a living (do you know any?) and they will say ‘about time’. They are all too familiar with the scroungers, unemployable immigrants and layabouts who have abused what is supposed to be a safety net for those who cannot work and the temporarily jobless. The whole system has been corrupted by politicians-particularly Labour ones. IDS or anyone else don’t have to live on £53, or justify it-because they have got themselves educated, trained and posess a work ethic.

  29. 73
    Rob Roy says:

    At least Smith is prepared to stand up and fight his corner unlike many in the Tory Party .

    I might not agree with him all the time but he doesn’t shirk away from the future or dream about a seemingly glorious past .

    I rather like the guy.

    A real breath of fresh air.

  30. 74
    Moussa Koussa Mark 8 says:

    “””Let Them Die”””

    The Neo Nut Chant, coming to a Tory MP very soon

    Good Luck !!!!!!

    • 77
      Benny Fits says:

      Peter Mandelson: “I am perfectly relaxed about people becoming filthy rich”.

    • 156
      Wislon's Pipe says:

      Message from Labour HQ to all lefty loons-get online and bombard comment sites with stuff about nasty Tory cuts.

  31. 79
    Mentalist says:

    I was forced to live off absolutely nothing once. Thanks to the socialist dogshit in Glasgow. Fortunately I had a kind neighbour who came to my rescue. It was unacceptable what these socialist weegies did.

  32. 86

    That’s £53 EXCLUDING rent and bills. Don’t let facts get in the way of Labour dogma though.

    • 96
      Tiny Tom says:

      If you have to live on 3 pence a week you will or you die.Try it!

      • 136
        ancient Shep says:

        I see what you are getting at, not really an option for some people is it, if you have to.

  33. 95
    Divide my conkers says:

    How much can an MP claim on expenses a day? More than £50.

  34. 97
    Anonymous says:

    The quiet man is lying again.

    After regime change his whole family can live on that for a week. Or starve.

  35. 98
    superman says:

    Unemployed but with millions in his back pocket! He doesn’t know what the breadline is!

    • 106
      Divide my conkers says:

      Perhaps its to end expenses paid to MPs. Why do they have a very good salary and don’t spend it on anything? The only thing that should be paid for in expenses is travel costs and tuppence for a bit stationary.

  36. 104
    Mary Whitehouse says:

    I hate the Conservative Party and I also hate the Labour Party and I also hate the Liberal Party..
    I also hate any mixture of the above .

    £135 K per year and turn up for work when you feel like and when you fuck up say there is nothing you can do as we are elected. Then there is the food allowance , the mortgage paid , the John Lewis list , and the expenses with no receipts . And IDS probably wonders why over 200 k people have signed the petition

    • 148
      Matilda says:

      Now now! The real Mary would never have used that word in the first line of your second paragraph. At least, not in public!

  37. 107
    Do the Right Thing says:

    £53 a week is £2756 a year.

    You need to have about £100,000 saved to get that kind of an income from your savings account: a sum which would make you ineligible for JSA.

  38. 111
    ancient Shep says:

    Forbidden Planet:
    “Monsters from the IDS”

  39. 117

    off topic, as usual here in france, news breaking that recent financial minister Jerome Cahuzac has admitted holding o/s funds (singapore) after months of denying such. After a change of lawyer, he has admitted having descended into a spiral of lies and has begged the forgiveness of his ( already beleguarded ) president. Doh! For a Brit, seems to remind me of something. Oh yes, la famille Huhne. He was accused first of all by Mediadet ( sim to Guido) who he stared to sue, the followed up by Canard Encheané ( = Private Eye) “Je suis devasté par le remourde” dit il. At last – finally -eventually, the revenue say they will investigate. Sorry to introduce a foreign element into the UK navel introspection of all you Guido bloggers but I think there are interesting parallels with the drop dead useless Classe Poletique en Angleterre.

    • 125
      Anonymous says:

      Merci Rupert, IDS is just another liblabcon tosser, you couldn’t get a rizla paper between them, self, serving c*unts

      • 150

        En France, this one is big. Pres Hollande in on his knees ( or genous, as we say ici ) and has achieved the fastest descent in the polls for a serving pres. in the 5th republic. His succesful election campaign consisted of criticising every reform introduced by the Sarko govt and now has broken each and every promise on which he was elected. Reminds vous of aucun chose… ? Former surgeon Cahazac has appeared nightly with his confident smile, denying he had off shore funds and threatening to sue anyone in the media who printed o/wise. Suddenly, cllapse of stout party who deman ds forgiveness after descending into a spiral of lies ( good phrase that, must commit to memory) Only problem is this. He was the minister responsible for chasing tax avoiders, ie those fleeing 75% tax = euroconfiscation of 60% from Cypriot depositers. Under interoggation, prime minister here recently confideded: “I know where I am going.” The reply hangs in the air, here in the Eurozone.

        • 212
          Honest View says:

          How CAN the French be so downhearted? They all rushed off to vote for a pie in the sky socialist- and now they’re disappointed? What on earth did they expect?

          • Jane Birkin from Paris says:

            Hollande got a remarkably easy ride into power possibly because big business thought perhaps rightly that it was easier to manipulate him than it was Sarkozy.

            This latest episode mirrors remarkably the Huhne case : clear protestations of innocence and a resignation to work to clear one’s name before total abject admissions of guilt.

            Hollande after 10 months is limping. Segolene Royale has landed a nice little job in a State run Bank and Trierweiler is not happy about reports (being denied of course) that the bachelor President has a mistress.

            In the background is DSK and Hollande’s own claim that he knew nothing of his close allies 20 years indiscretions and fornication much of it inside the Socialist Party .

            If someone comes forward and spills the beans things could get interesting.

            Sarko has his own problems with Judge Kind and even if there should be no substance to Bettancourt there is of course Libya to fall back on as well as at least two other overseas adventures.

            it is surprising really how the two countries mirror one another .

  40. 120
    PooroldIDS says:

    He may well have been unemployed twice but I somehow think that he didnt live on seven quid a day. By saying so he is inviting every hack to investigate and show him to be disingenuous. At best he will look silly. At worst he adds to the Tory out of touch narrative. He would be better shutting up. I hope he keeps on. Guardian journos are already picking over this little ‘mistruth’

    • 128
      ancient Shep says:

      The fact that he has been unemployed twice (if true), kinda makes me warm to him a bit more.

      • 144
        Anonymous says:

        Do you warm to all the lies on his CV?

        He’s an odious man.

        • 158
          ancient Shep says:

          Everybody lies on their CV.

          • Anonymous says:

            You think everyone lies about what university they attended,claim to have a qualification that does not exist,& uses obfuscation about experience gained on a few part-time employer provided courses?

            Yes,of course we all do that.

          • damned impertinent questions says:

            Not everyone. About 10% do. When I find that I immediately sack them or kick them out of the competition.

            And when they complain i simply say “you are dishonest and we don’t employ dishonest people”. You should see the look on some of their faces. Its priceless.

  41. 122
    I have a dream says:

    How about if we just cut all benefits in half and stop giving aid to foreign countries.

    • 151
      Matilda says:

      .. and the EU.

      • 164
        damned impertinent questions says:

        You cant. I work in the EU who pay my children’s school fees and it would breach their Human Rights to stop now. So sod off little man or i will set a Liberal Judge on you

        • 257
          Donnez-moi; donnez-moi; donnez-moi says:

          Whatever it is that you do ‘in the EU’, work is the wrong verb.

  42. 127
    Divide my conkers says:

    Yeah, absolutely it kinda smacks of unfairness. Though no doubt they are people who abuse the welfare system and there is sweet fa wrong with them. But nevertheless they are far too many chancers in parliament who are claiming for absolutely everything while saving up their salary. It is just not fair enough.

  43. 130
    Jerome Cahuzac says:

    I mispoke

  44. 131
    Anonymous says:

    Would like to see the Lib/Con/Lab political class live on £0 each for the rest of their days

  45. 138
    Owen Jones says:

    I’d wager that IDS will vote Labour in 2015.

    • 142
      Reforming Welfare without Reforming Parliament is Folly says:

      However he votes, it won’t make much difference to anyone.

  46. 139
    Jimmy says:

    Just to be clear, by “breadline” he means the old benefit levels rather than his exciting new ones?

    This is a man his colleagues thought was less electable than Michael Howard.

  47. 145
    Yawn says:

    Have we forgotten that this man was fucking useless as a leader and that his CV was a pack of lies. The little turd should be the last choice of person to put in the cabinet, but given the available talent pool, twats like him and Gove are stars…

  48. 147
    Anonymous says:

    A few months on the dole does not equate to ‘having experience of long term unemployment’. He is simply showing how out of touch he really is.

    THAT is the irony, though the baying mob he is appealing to will not see that.

    Why don’t we just exterminate the poorest and the sick/disabled and be done with the argument once and for all…??

  49. 154

    He did claim unemployment benefit – but was that all he had to live on or did wifey’s family fortune sustain him? What he’s doing is distracting us from the facts- that HE claimed unemployment benefit, when he might well have been entitled to, but certainly didn’t NEED to.

  50. 155
    Rt. Hon. Iain Dunce Smith MP says:

    Look I know what it’s like to be on your uppers. When I was on the dole, I didn’t complain, I just did what any decent chap would do and got myself hitched to an heiress. Trust me, there’s always a way.

  51. 159
    gildedtumbril says:

    Even to his friends, if he has any, IDS is known as IN DEEP SHIT. He is a vindictive cretin, arsewipe and general arsehole. One prays there is a special place for him, waiting in hell. I cherish the thought of flame perpetually licking his sphericals, if he has any.

    • 161
      damned impertinent questions says:

      Well you can write (in English) so theres no reason why you cant do office work and your invective shows that, properly motivated, you have the energy to deliver against basic job targets. So no more DLA for you my son. Job Centre is two doors down. Next please.

    • 177
      I love the Rhondda says:

      Your critique of God’s greatest living Tory is as abusive as it is inaccurate .

      Only he has the true vision and courage to lead his party and the country .

      he seeks nothing for himself from these benefit changes. He want s other to take nothing too . He wants simply for people to regain their self respect through work . He does not want to tax people into penury and oblivion .

      Only he will tell Godless Bankers technocrats and lefties where to go .

      With IDS it is onwards and upwards .

      How dare you seek to besmirch him whilst having nothing creative or positive to say yourself.

    • 182
      footballer with man u says:

      It seems as if the lefty people are a bit concerned that eye dee ess may have struck a chord with the millions of those who get FA from the state.I earn £25000 a day.Whats the big deal

      • 258
        n Extremely Ancient Seafarer says:

        As somebody mentioned earlier, please do not confuse ‘earn’ with ‘being paid’. Kicking a ball around for a few minutes a week produces nothing towards improving our economy.

  52. 168
    damned impertinent questions says:

    Brilliant to see the grinding on this when you get all the whingers bleating abut their ‘entitlement’ to Sky TV two holidays a year and 40 fags a day. But there is a downside. Pizza shops and Chinese takeaways across the land will feel the heat today – well, one has to economise somewhere

  53. 169
    Tom says:

    Cut benefits. Check.

    Deploy armed police and army units. Check.

    Flush drug dealing scum off estates. Check.

    Repeat for gangs. Check.

    Reclaim estates, streets and schools. Check.

    See improvements in employment, education and public safety. Simples.

    • 179
      Ex pat former higher rate tax payer says:

      And while you are at it why not insist that President Hollande explain in detail his plans to reinvigorate the European economy with the issue of billions and billions of Eurobonds

  54. 175
    Anonymous says:

    If IDS had any balls, he’d take up the challenge.

    But just like every other politician of every party, he’s a liar and full of shite.

    • 180
      Mrs Duffy frpm Rochdale says:

      I bet your Dad was bigger than his Dad.

      You really are a narrow minded bigot if you do not mind me saying.

    • 185
      Anonymous says:

      Dont be rediculous, you are a liar and full of shite, go and get an 8ffing job and stop sponging off workers. People like you make me sick.

      • 191
        Anonymous says:

        I have a job, thanks.

        I also have an education which means I can think for myself and don’t have to get the Daily Mail to do it for me. It’s also helped me spell, learn when to use capital letters and also a reasonable guess at where to put commas and full stops (I’m looking at you, numbers 179 and 184).

        Would it help if I write that in big letters for you?

        • 195
          Anonymous says:

          Why are you making such nasty comments, do you have anger management issues ? so glad your education met with your approval, thats a relief.

        • 217
          Unemployed and skint in Birtley Colliery says:

          You have a job .

          Aren’t you the lucky one!

    • 194
      Angry McNabemthentorturethemthenshoottheminthehead says:

      He should add an “A” to the front of his initials aka AIDS.

      Fucking c u n t just like the rest of the tories and just like labour and those cleggy round the clayhole faggots. Fuck the lot of them. Actually no, don’t fuck them- Rape the scum. They all dance to the pipe of the bankers and it is about time politicians simply turned round and told the likes of the Rotchild family and other similar nefarious ilks to fuck off. I mean how fucking hard can it be to simply shoot these bloodsucking banker scum in the head? Or is the UK ministry of defence simply an extension of the whims of the banks?

  55. 184
    Tony Eden from Eton says:

    I really think Mr Ian Duncan Smith would be far more persuasive if he stopped poking his finger in peoples’ faces.

  56. 187
    Chris Huhne says:

    Having worked closely with Ian in the past there is not the slightest doubt in my mind that he can bring cheap efficient low cost green energy to every home in the country if given our full support.

  57. 189
    Jimmy says:

    One thing very striking about these exchanges is the apparent assumption by righties that anyone complaining about these attacks on the poor must be a benefit claimant. It’s not simply that they do not care for the welfare of others but the possibility that others might simply would never occur to them.

    • 196
      CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

      No it’s that the stupidity of those who complain could easily and simply fixed by them giving of their own money voluntarily rather than robbing their fellow citizens.

    • 198
      Anonymous says:

      “Attacks on the poor” says it all, they are not poor, they are receiving state benefits.Which are a safety net, not a career choice. FFS.

  58. 199
    Zippo says:

    IDS won’t take any lessons from Liam “Rothschild Investment Bank Director” Byrne!

  59. 202
    Lefties Go Home says:

    Who’s this Dom Aversano twonk anyway? What are the odds he is in some way affiliated to Labour?

  60. 204
    love1salluneed says:

    Politics is really excellent isn’t it at the old divide and rule game – you can clearly see it in full swing on this topic!

  61. 214
    EconomicsIsEasy says:

    Simple solution:
    Halve benefits
    Double taxes for those working, but earning less than 50k
    Remove all taxes for those earning more

    It’s the wealth makers who keep this country afloat. More wealth means more money in the economy.

    • 215
      Sheikh Bashar Banka says:

      If you had let the Banks fail then house prices and rentals would have fallen to levels affordable by all without any state intervention .

      That is the big mistake which is hardly ever mentioned.

  62. 223
    Frank's son says:

    So IDS now confirms that living on benefits is living on the breadline. After months of saying people live the high life he seems to recall that when HE was unemployed HE was on the breadline. So there we have it folks, all you know alls saying people of living the life of riley, your hero IDS confirms in his own words that, in fact, IT IS living on the breadline.

    Of course back then when IDS was living on the breadline he didn’t have to pay for a spare bedroom (if he had one) nor did he have to pay towards his council tax. So despite knowing full well that folk are living on the breadline, he demands they pay out for things he NEVER had to pay out for. What a hero.

  63. 238
    SLR says:

    When exactly was he living on this £53 a week? In the 80s or early 90s? Because £53 now is worth a fuck sight less than it was then. Between inflation, all-time high prices on food and fuel and energy bills, and the fact that a lot of areas have no available social housing, £53 is a complete pipe dream.

  64. 239
    Anonymous says:

    Iain Duncan Smith

    He married Elizabeth “Betsy” Fremantle, daughter of the 5th Baron Cottesloe, in 1982. The couple have four children, and live in a rented house on his father-in-law’s estate in Swanbourne, Buckinghamshire.

    His wealth is estimated at £1 million, much of which has been acquired by after-dinner speaking.

    Sign the petition at

    change dot org/en-GB/petitions/iain-duncan-smith-iain-duncan-smith-to-live-on-53-a-week

    320,946 signed

  65. 240
    MichaelHunt says:

    Was this before or after graduating from the University of Perugia?

  66. 241
    Anonymous says:

    Why no mention of Betsygate?

  67. 242
    PooroldIDS says:

    Osborne looked today like the fat boy at the Wonka chocolate Factory surrounded by his Oompa loompas operating the forklifts..I know @dpjhodges considers it a triumph but it looked desperate and confirmed “aspiration nation” is as vacuous as the Big Society and as likely to succeed. Camerons conservatism seems to be all about little poor people stacking shelves for a minimum wage and running the library on their days off so that bankers get to keep more of their bonuses.

    When’s IDS gonna do his “I’m a poor ex Guards officer married to an Heiress, let me tell you about the bresdline ” gig??

    • 248
      Jimmy says:

      Be fair. A state school product social climbing in the Scots Guards and not making it past Lt. must have left with an eye-watering overdraft. You’d love to be a fly on the wall when he went to the Social Fund for a crisis loan to pay off his Mess bill. The Heiress was pretty much his only way out.

  68. 243
    anon. says:
    • 244
      PooroldIDS says:

      The Daily Mail should be ashamed. Those poor kids. Is nothing off limtz to Sacred?

      • 246
        anon. says:

        Philpott set that fire not to murder his kids. He did it to get a bigger house. He hoped his lover and the other kids would return and then he would be back in control of all the benefits. Motive: Bigger house + retain all benefits.
        The Mail is correct.

    • 245
      PooroldIDS says:

      Should read Dacre. Really this is too much. I know the Mail is read by fascists, borderline racists and people with personality disorders but exploiting the death of those kids this way challenges decency.

      • 247
        Rt. Hon. Iain Duncan Donuts MP says:

        So long as the welfare numbers come down we don’t care how


      • 250
        Anonymous says:

        You mean like Obama is doing over Sandy Hook or is that different?

        If the headline for that said Vile Product of US Gun Culture, would you lefties really be complaining?

        • 252
          Jimmy says:

          Unless the kids were beaten to death with a giro, it’s not much of an analogy is it you bell end?

  69. 251
    The British left says:

    The British unemployed are lazy and don’t want to work, that’s why we need hard working immigrants from…

    Oh hold on, wrong issue.

    It is appalling to suggest the British unemployed are lazy and don’t want to work. The jobs simply aren’t there because they’re already taken by people from…


    Bankers! Greedy Tory Bankers! For shame!

    • 260
      Freddie the Fishmonger says:

      I am English and have worked in England and also abroad .

      In general, in my experience the laziest people I have worked with have indeed been English

      I hope this helps you in your deliberations

  70. 253
    I hate Hugh Grant cos he's a moron says:

    IDS is a tosser When or rather if he was on benefits you could still afford to buy the food on offer even the fags were cheap.

    Now the prices of even the most basic items, bread & milk, have rocketed to the extent that even corned beef is classed as a luxury AND were prices have not risen so much the contents, while costing the same, have shrunk to almost half

    Now his bluffs been called he’s chickening out

    • 261
      Looy Lou says:

      Corned beef makes you fat.

      Stick to the carrots.

      You might even end up living in a big house like IDS especially if you learn to blow your nose and comb your hair.

    • 271
      Emily Dangleberry says:

      You are a fuckwit. People like you sank this country by doling out endless benefits.

      It doesn’t matter what milk bread etc cost the benefits bill has to come down or the country ends up in a category with Africa. It should be hard to live on welfare, not impossible but something you would want to avoid. Why do immigrants come here? To occupy the jobs our benefit claimants won’t do. Welfare budget is 50% more than income tax receipts – how did we let this happen? I am emigrating.

  71. 259
    Giddit says:

    It’s a good job IDS made that claim on April fool’s day otherwise we might have taken him seriously!

  72. 264
    Pyrotech says:

    Well the quiet man maybe speaking louder, but a silent majority are slowing gathering.. the backlash of this is going to wipe out Tory party for a few parliaments.

    Its lost 3 votes in this house, Cameron had a separate room for his disable son, and quite right too. So why should other disabled people be penalised.

    Oh IDS lives rent free in a house probably beyond his means, even accounting for his ministerial salary, (house owned by private company, not in laws) has more than 3 extra bedrooms…. and lives way outside his constituency, so we have to pay £5k a year for him to travel…. still , I’m told his Mrs makes a decent sausage for sale in the family owned local mock Tudor monstrosity , that is supposed to be a pub/restaurant. and I’m still baffled how it got planning permission, being a) green Belt, and b) village pub shut down due to lack of business. I think I know!

  73. 273
    Pyrotech says:

    Oh its a hard knock life, being unemployed and married to a multi millionaires daughter, and living in a london town house…

    This man lives in a fantasy world… He has no idea, and with the effect of the bedroom tax, we are talking of disabled people being hit, and struggling on these levels. Personally with inflation plus rent increases, the bedroom tax, and the change in council tax payment looking at £25 a week rise in those expense, plus the rise in basic living costs, being disabled , not getting winter fuel or bad weather payments, yet still having to keep heating on in April.. yet I’m getting less than £3 a week rise in my ESA, DLA and industrial injuries benefit combined. Net lose this year about £30 a week.

    IDS would not survive. He lives a sheltered life, he really does , rent free £3 million pound country mansion well away from his constituency with plenty of spare bedrooms. , so we pay more the £4K in expenses so he can travel between them, but surely that’s a choice. Live in your constituency.

    His educational CV prove he lives in cloud cuckoo land.

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