April 2nd, 2013

EU Spanner for Dave

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Though the PM has rescued a dying lamb, there probably won’t be a triple dip recession and set the dividing lines for next election that see Labour playing to the wrong crowd and arguing against every cut in benefits, it’s not all good news. The FT reports those EU renegotiations are going well:

“The Foreign Office invited Berlin and Paris to take part in its so-called “balance of competences” study, which is examining whether powers should flow back from Brussels. But after high-level discussions between the French and German governments, they have decided not to assist the British review. The exercise, launched in July, has been blackballed by most other member states as well…”

That should help stop the UKIP vote haemorrhage.


143 Comments

  1. 1
    Anonymous says:

    The EU is now well on it’s way to being a failed commie tyranny, good luck to us all.

  2. 2
    Football Fan says:

    I will not be supporting Man Utd until their socialist Manager resigns

  3. 3
    Nobel Peace Prize Winners (EUSSR) says:

    Hi Dave!

    April Fool!

  4. 4
    arsewipe says:

    I hold in my hand a blank piece of paper.

  5. 5
    Astroreaper says:

    There is one thing you guys in the media seem to have stupidly overlooked. Have you not thought that DC wants talks to fail so that he can legitimately seek a divorce without taking any blame and making the EU look unreasonable?

    It’s this thing called bluff, very important in such card games. What better way to extract ourselves without the markets blaming us for the ensuing EU collapse?

  6. 6
    Owen Jones says:

    Guido,reached your daily limit for disgust at this government? Now they’re looking at cutting the minimum wage

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9965039/Minimum-wage-could-be-frozen-or-cut-if-it-starts-to-cost-jobs-or-damage-economy-Government-suggests.html

  7. 7
    Liar.Politicians says:

    Red Ken Livingslime said it in 1983 after Labour’s disaster general election campaign… Labour should realise they can’t go borrowing money to spend. Did Labour care for that, no. Between 1997 and 2010 Labour went on a borrowing and spending binge, creating the UK’s economic collapse.

  8. 8
    I don't want share the same air with the Edinburgh socialist dogshite. says:

    Well at least Dave is giving us a referendum while Labour suck their collective thumb.

  9. 9
    Vote UKIP says:

    Dump Damp Dave

  10. 10
    Own Jokes says:

    Why are you reading the Telegraph, isn’t the Mirror a lot softer on your sore botty ?

  11. 11
    Resident of 96.99% white Merseyside says:

    I’m alright Jack.

  12. 12
    I don't want share the same air with the Edinburgh socialist dogshite. says:

    Same here. How long is going to stay in Man U? Until he is a 140.

  13. 13
    Anonymous says:

    Hola here in Spain house building has stopped another batch of houses built illegal on rustic land Spain is starting to look f**cked.

  14. 14
    Resident of 96.99% white Merseyside says:

    I’m glad we belong to a powerful trading block as the EU. How else can we compete with the BRIC countries and other rising economies such as Turkey?

  15. 15
    HARD WORKING SELF EMPLOYED PERSON says:

    GOOD

  16. 16
    V1le, vicious Labour ruined my Country says:

    So are all the Labour shirkers, spongers and scroungers.

  17. 17
    MICHAEL DAWSON says:

    I voted Conservative last time, I will never vote labour or Liberal as they are looking at becoming the United States Of Europe and enjoy letting in millions of migrants.
    This time round I will vote UKIP, no-one else offers a genuine alternative to the United States Of Europe idea, also the Conservatives are afraid to offer a referendum on the EU whilst in power, this is not good enough !!
    I want a sovereign independent UK that trades freely with the rest of the world, self governed and able to make it’s own decisions without arguing with 26 other countries, if we want to deport terrorist we will NO ARGUMENT !! VOTE UKIP

  18. 18
    Resident of 96.99% white Merseyside says:

    As long as they don’t cut my solid as the Rock of Gibraltar benefits and pensions.

  19. 19
    Anonymous says:

    After regime change Shapps’ family will be allocated a single room bedsit to live in. Shared with two other families, obviously.

  20. 20
    Superman says:

    Dave is Brave and a bit mental if he wants to run this country for another 5 years. Labour ruined it and they don’t have to worry about cleaning up the mess of their own creation. Every Labour MP should be forced to do community service. They do sweet FA for this country.

  21. 21
    Resident of 96.99% white Merseyside says:

    Anon, are you currently one of the one million plus Brits enriching Espana?

  22. 22
    V1le, vicious Labour ruined my Country says:

    I’ll believe it when I see it. The political class cockroaches will lose all their potential promotions and bribes from the eu.

  23. 23
    bergen says:

    Good image. Of course, the Foreign Office is as much about representing abroad here as representing us abroad. This is more a political than diplomatic affair and it should have been a political mission.

    Incidentally, as David Milliband dispersed the Foreign Office archive (perhaps he thought it a force of conservatism) may I wish him “god speed” with the hope that he never comes back.

  24. 24
    the dictator says:

    You really think the EU will cease to trade with us if we got out, you twat? You probably believe all that bollocks about being at the heart of Europe bringing us influence too, ffs.

  25. 25
    Resident of 96.99% white Merseyside says:

    I reckon “you know who” will still be here when I kick the bucket.

  26. 26
    Resident of 96.99% white Merseyside says:

    Whoops, sorry that should have been a reply to the previous post.

  27. 27
    pawned says:

    Gordon Brown went on a vote buying spree and look where it got him, fucking idiot.

  28. 28
    Resident of 96.99% white Merseyside says:

    We will still be in the EU and old whatshisname will still be in a nice house and claiming all his benefits when I’ve kicked the bucket.

  29. 29
    Anonymous says:

    yes yes yes

  30. 30
    Resident of 96.99% white Merseyside says:

    No is wasn’t Labour. Mr Crow says ITS ALL FATCHERS FAULT.

  31. 31
    Stuff the corrupt EUSSR says:

    What the fuck is Dave pissing about at? The EU club is sick and there’s no point in being a member, it is just a drain on the UK economy.

    He will never reform it by discussion at this stage. It is too late and too many EUcrats are now riding the corrupt EU gravy train for them even to contemplate serious reform. There will at some stage be a bloody revolution but as we are ideally placed as an Island and not part of Europe anyway it will be a lot less painful if we leave now, ship shape our economy and give then aid when their revolution/civil war occurs.

    Just get out NOW if not sooner.

  32. 32
    pissed up pretend paddy p**i says:

    No triple dip recession!

    You fat piece of kosher cocksucking shit, there’s no triple dip because there’s continuing and deepening depression, thanks to the kosher banksters and their shabbat goy puppet politicians having looted trillions from the people and swamped their countries with scum third worlders, like you.

  33. 33
    Anonymous says:

    Yes, They only get 5 years each, before we have a say. Much better than the dictatorship of the EU.

    Also being part of a trade block is not dependent on the insidious power hungry grasping that is the EU.

    I also have lived under other federal state systems and none are so ridiculous as the EU.

  34. 34
    sell gold buy euros says:

    Britain have been GLOBAL traders since before Elizabethan times. Fuck protectionist trade blocks, they’re for failed commie states like the old Soviet Bloc.

  35. 35
    Diane Fatbott says:

    If the public is right on immigration, then they are ALL waaaacists !!!

  36. 36
    HARD WORKING SELF EMPLOYED PERSON says:

    A lot of folks can’t understand how we came to have an oil shortage here in Britain .
    Well, there’s a very simple answer.
    Nobody bothered to check the oil.
    We just didn’t know we were getting low.
    The reason for that is purely geographical.

    Our OIL is located in The North Sea
    All Our DIPSTICKS are located in Westminster !!!
    Any Questions ???
    NO? I didn’t think so!!
    So now we know!

  37. 37
    Tick Tock says:

    At least Mr Crow wants out of the EU so he can’t be that bad.

  38. 38
    sceptical says:

    A vote for UKIP is a vote for Miliband

  39. 39
    oh my, the footwork! says:

    The only countries at the heart of Europe is Germany and France, the rest of the countries are being used to suck the lifeblood out of, the great Euro dream is just a myth, otherwise all the Euro countries would now be rich and have full employment, now which Euro countries come into that list mmmmm.

  40. 40
    Anonymous says:

    Who knows what Dave really thinks and believes in, god knows I’ve tried?

  41. 41
    DWWolds says:

    If the powers-that-be in the EU want to push us into a situation where a decision to leave is inevitable they are going the right way about it. Pity about the £10+bn net they will have to find when we head for the exit.

  42. 42
    1,000 years of reserves says:

    Stacks of oil off the South Western approaches. There must be some strategic reason we are not exploiting it, same as all the coal, gas and oil our Island is sat up on.

  43. 43

    Are you really surprised that France and Germany would have nothing to do with anything that weakens the power of the Second Carolingan Empire? Europhile Cameron is being forced down a road he does not want to travel.
    2 years of waffle with no result was his aim and Carolingan intransigence has denied him that g-string of respectability. The futility of negotiation with those who want an EU superstate is apparent even this early in the process. Expand our trade with the BRICs, moderate trade with the economically sclerotic EU, unilaterally repatriate sovereign powers and get off our knees as aNation.

  44. 44
    Bullers says:

    In that photoshop adjusted photo, Dave’s face looks as if wants to do a Gordon, trying very hard to keep everything that wants to come out in. The photoshop looks better than normal, or is Dave in the same predicament as the “Peace in our time” man so makes a good match.

  45. 45
    Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

    Why would the markets blame us for leaving the sick and dying EU? The big danger would be that with all the extra money we have from not subsidising half of Europe the pound soars in value.

  46. 46
    The Tap says:

    Yeah, millions of votes unfortunately.

  47. 47
    Kim Jong deux says:

    Support Sunderland then! Fascits are Go!

  48. 48
    fruitcake says:

    not if enough vote UKIP

  49. 49
    The Brussells Broadcasting Corporation says:

    Most leading economists now agree that if Britain leaves the EU (which accounts for half of our exports), we will never be able to buy German cars ever again, and everyone’s skin will turn green and flaky.

  50. 50
    Socialism is a severe mental illness says:

    Government will cut minimum wage “if it starts to cost jobs or damage the economy”.

    And your problem with that is what, exactly?

  51. 51
    oh my, the footwork! says:

    Probably but the money tree is dead, both Eds have proved their ineptness and will open the doors to more immigration causing what available jobs to be fought over by the unemployed British, civil strife is on the cards and the death of Liebour won’t be far away, as always their is always some party that will fill the void maybe UKIP and the unamed one will, SNP in Scotland came from nowhere , it can happen here.

  52. 52
    Ed Dafty, LimpDim MP, Climate Change Chieftain says:

    We must cut our carbon footprint down !! Use more windmills !! More solar power !! Much, much more expensive but it keeps us LimpDims feeling warm and fuzzy, just like our anoraks.

  53. 53
    Pawn Sandwich says:

    Spain are having a regeneration, their youth employment now stands at 46%.

  54. 54
    Anonymous says:

    I can believe that.
    I can also beleive that it was only Ted Heath who lied to take us in to the EUSSR, and that no other Conservatives were invoved.
    Would you like to sell me a bridge?

  55. 55
    Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

    “The minimum wage for millions of people could have to be capped or frozen in future if it risks damaging jobs or the economy, the Government has said.”

    So once again the lefty thickos are telling lies by saying the minimum wage will be ‘cut’ when they are only even considering freezing or capping it. The coalition should send all left wingers a government pamphlet explaining the difference between ‘taxes’ and ‘benefits’ and ‘cuts’ and ‘smaller increases’. The snag is most of them would still not understand it, even assuming the ignorant twats can read.

  56. 56
    Like all Europhiles, Camoron is a compulsive liar. says:

    Yes, there’s a cast-iron guarantee of a referendum.

    So assuming this cast iron guarantee has more substance than he earlier cast iron guarantees, and he actually holds a referendum, what will he do if we vote ‘NO’ to staying in the EU?

    Will he ignore the result? Will he wait a while and then ask us again, and keep asking us until we give the ‘right’ answer? Will he announce that the EU’s come up with a much better offer which makes leaving unnecessary? Perhaps we should ask Dave “there are no circumstances where I would agree to leaving the EU” Camoron what he’d do.

  57. 57
    on the beach,sunglasses in the car says:

    He was a piss poor Leader of the Opposition so why do you think he would make an excellent Prime Minister particularly when he could not win an outright majority against a lame duck Scot ?

    As leader of the Opposition he could have spoken out strongly and firmly about the madness of the Bank bailouts but said not a squeak.

    If we had let the Banks go then a few people would have got busted noses but they could have all been reset by now . Instead we are all still suffering recurrent nose bleeds and are too frightend to look straight ahead .

    True the family Cameron would have lost a fortune but we have already had one set of riots and if he thinks berating the unemployed is a good idea I think we are all going to get another hit.

    Maybe dave milliband is just too smart .

  58. 58
    Taxfodder says:

    For Dithering Dave and Co its more about hoping something will turn up…

    The problem with talk is…..you just can’t eat it

  59. 59
    The tosser in no. 10 says:

    But I’ve always been a member.

  60. 60
    Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

    Let’s get fracking.

  61. 61
    Con Artists says:

    Exactly – how could the UK compete with Turkey when it gets cheap £80m loans from the EU for a new Ford Transit factory and at the same time shut down the UK Ford Transit factory..!?!?

    So lets get this straight… Turkey not yet a member of the EU, gets funding from the EU for a new Ford factory, Ford shut down the factory in the UK and open the new one in Turkey…. So the UK is paying a none EU country to take away what miniscule amounts of manufacturing the UK does have… !!! You couldn’t make it up.

    And still those flat earth Europhiles tell us, if your out of the EU you will never trade with the EU… how come Ford and Turkey are perfectly happy to build a new factory then and trade with the EU ?

    The EU has gone bonkers, and its time to end this commie dream gone wrong in the UK before we all die in a politically correct socialist wet dream of BBC / Guardian inspired common purpose propapanda paid for by other peoples money, mired in debt and ruled by unelected technocrats on gold plated salaries and pensions.

    http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10020273.Ford_s___80m_EU_loan_to_boost_Turkey_factory___and_close_ours/

  62. 62
    Broon from Troon says:

    He should take us out of the Euro immediately .

    Then we could overcome our trading deficits by currency devaluation.

  63. 63
    Like all Europhiles, Camoron is a compulsive liar. says:

    In a river, after tying him in a sack with a dozen rats and an anvil.

  64. 64
    oh my, the footwork! says:

    He has a book to fkin sell, he’ll doing anything to keep it out of Poundland and the car boot

  65. 65
    Bullers says:

    I don’t care who runs any football club, overpaid managers, players etc a lot of the “premier” clubs are owned by foreigners, a lot of the players are imported from abroad, it’s love of money that is driving the game now not the love of the game. If you want to watch football go and watch local Sunday league teams (the language is exactly the same as on here)

  66. 66
    Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

    Now if only Labour had understood the downfall of Mr Micawber the country wouldn’t have got into the bloody awful mess we are now in. And even Micawber didn’t believe in magic money trees, which all left wingers must do.

  67. 67
    One Term Dave says:

    I am concerned about my place in history. I thought I was always going to be the second worst PM in history, above Gordon Brown. Now I’m starting to get worried.

  68. 68
    Andy's call to Arms says:

    Of course if a white non Muslim group tweeted similar the plod would arrest them.

  69. 69
    Pawn Sandwich says:

    The european elections will be the starting block. When voters see the impact of UKIP being the largest UK party then the tide will turn.

  70. 70
    Bullers says:

    The sun is no good for that, he would end up with a black botty

  71. 71
    long John Silver's parrot says:

    Cameron is getting even dafter than Brown now.

    His Chancellor is putting it about that the British taxpayer is going to bail out Laiki Bank UK .

    Well I am very sorry but when people opened accounts with this Bank if they had cared to read the small print they would have seen this Bank was outside BOE protection and if there are to be losses that is where they should fall .

    They are all quite mad .

  72. 72
    oh my, the footwork! says:

    Never forgave Camoron and his mates for clapping his holiness St Tony out the the HOC after St Tone had his victory tour of seeing the damage he had done in his destruction of Britain,

  73. 73
    Rare words of Sense from the Indy. says:

    Were you injured and would like to claim compensation? Get over it!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/were-you-injured-and-would-like-to-claim-compensation-get-over-it-8555982.html

  74. 74
    Anonymous says:

    All Dave wanted was to be prime minister.

    End of story, just like Blair.

    Meanwhile the country continues to decline further.

    A vote for the 3 main, centre based, social democrat parties at the next election will lead to more immigration and further integration into a United States of Germany, sorry, Europe.

    But the sheep will continue to follow. So who gives a shit now? You get what you deserve, there is no way back. Just keep kicking that can down the road, you know it makes sense.

  75. 75
    I think I've finally found a use for Labour's supporters says:

    I’ve searched Google but I can’t find an answer to this: how many kilowatt hours of energy are released from a burning human body? Let’s call it ‘e’.

    There are six million civil servants, 1.4 million NHS employees and about 1.3 million unemployed benefit scroungers..

    (6 + 1.4 + 1.3) x 1,000,000 x e = lots of free leccy!

  76. 76
    oh my, the footwork! says:

    They are all quite mad

    Yes with our money, if they use their own who cares, these politicians are like these multimillionaire actors and musicians, they will drain everybody else’s money in helping other but their accounts will remain untouched.

  77. 77
    Loopy Lou LLB (Hons) says:

    Last night the Cypriots held a food aid concert in Nicosia encouraging people to donate food to be distributed to people who do not have any .

    Having looked at the financial restrictions imposed upon the country through us in the EU such conduct is now illegal because all non cash transactions are blocked .

    Are there any policemen around ?

  78. 78
    Why spoil a good story for the sake of accuracy at the BBC? says:

    Of course what the BBC fail to mention is that the £53 is for IDS to wander around looking for jobs. And I reckon he would have had half a dozen offers before lunch.

    His other expenses will be taken care of by the benefit system.

  79. 79
    Bullers says:

    Great if the cut ministerial salaries and mps salaries plus all those lovely expenses, Dave could take a sharp pair of scissors to those that would save a few million, reduce the grace and favour residences which all have to be maintained just for a few days each year, but do you think Dave would do such a thing, not likely, he believes it his right to the money and luxury living.

  80. 80
    Maqboul says:

    Until he gets obscenely rich?

  81. 81
    nellnewman says:

    To be snubbed by the french and germans should be seen as a badge of honour.

    And hopefully if they keep up their non-cooperation dave will come to see what a useless failed experiment the eu and the euro is and realise that we would economically,and every other way, be much better off out of it.

  82. 82
    Edna in Clapham says:

    63 – Very well said sir/madam; couldn’t agree more.

  83. 83
    Bullers says:

    I am sure the Daily Telegraph would be over joyed to be called “lefty thickos”

  84. 84
    Edna in Clapham says:

    Owen – boo hoo! You big girl’s blouse.

  85. 85
    Maqboul says:

    It would be easier and more cost effective to cut the number of MPs and their entourages. That was the plan until the Liberals fucked that for everyone.

    Cutting the minimum wage will create more jobs.

  86. 86
    nellnewman says:

    There’s something not quite right about mr david bennet and his £53 a week.

    He says he earns £2700 per annum by working his market stall 50/70 hours a week. So he’s clearly fit and able to work. Not to mention he’s drawing housing benefit, plus other benefits.

    Why would any able bodied person spend 50/70 hours a week to earn £2700 a year when you could be earning far more than that in a regular job on a minimum wage.

    Secondly , if as he implies the £53 he refers to is for food and sundries presumably for one person . Then he should be able to live on it – certainly I don’t spend more than £50 per person per week on food in our household and we live more than comfortably.

  87. 87
    Edna in Clapham says:

    Dave’s part of the EU club – he will NOT let us leave. All his posturing is just that – appeasing the people he governs, whilst checking his every move with Frau Merkel in Brussels.

    The reason he rushed gay marriage through was under orders from the EU – France are being told to pass this law as well, but they don’t like it.

    The high speed rail link is also an EU directive. Once the missing link (the UK) has high speed rail, you will be able to travel from Edinburgh to Belgrade on a high speed train – from one end of the EU to the other. Why else would Dave upset Tory constituents by agreeing to build this monstrosity which will destroy the heart of England?

  88. 88
    Taxfodder says:

    agreed then again during nolab office the Tories sat on their bum’s and said very little, nothing, totally happy to see the mess develop in the hope of winning an election at the end of it…..

    Well there they are and what have we got….more incompetence waste and stupidity…wonderful!

  89. 89
    Anonymous says:

    We find it quite easy to keep the food bill below £1 a person/day. No one forces people to eat the Diane Abbott menu.

  90. 90
    Bullers says:

    Yes, you have a point there, all those MEPs losing their jobbies, failed politicos going on to EU administration jobs “commissar for this or that”, MEPs eyeing up UK MPs jobs, where will the main parties put all those MEPs especially if Dave does reduce the number of MPs and the number of members in the Lords and having the Lords being voted in by universal suffrage. THE CHANCES OF DOING THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY ZERO

  91. 91
    Con Artists says:

    Dave… do you mean Dave CaMoron… Cast Iron Dave…. with a strategy….. for the EU ?….. don’t make me fcuking laugh….

    He couldn’t even plan a trip to the toilet for a poo at 10am let alone the UK’s membership of the EU.

    Lets remind ourselves of CaMorons great strategic mind…. :( and his pathetic EU referendum speach when he stated the UK’s interests were best served in the EU and that he would campaign to stay in, with all his heart and soul….

    “Britain is at the heart of that single market, and must remain so.”

    “Instead, let’s start from this proposition: we are a family of democratic nations, all members of one European Union, whose essential foundation is the single market rather than the single currency. ”

    “We believe in a flexible union of free member states who share treaties and institutions and pursue together the ideal of co-operation.”

    “Our participation in the single market, and our ability to help set its rules is the principal reason for our membership of the EU.”

    “And just as I believe that Britain should want to remain in the EU so the EU should want us to stay.”

    “Because I believe something very deeply. That Britain’s national interest is best served in a flexible, adaptable and open European Union and that such a European Union is best with Britain in it.”

    “And when the referendum comes let me say now that if we can negotiate such an arrangement, I will campaign for it with all my heart and soul.”

    CaMoron
    (Traitor and liar – 5.2010 – 5.2015)

  92. 92
    Anonymous says:

    With our career politicians, none have really understood or lived in any alternate systems. None have worked or lived with the normal workers of the world and seen how they view their priorities, and even how they ridicule the British system.

    One particular example of the inward looking UK lunacy, is MI5 recruitment. To qualify you need to be resident in the country for 9 out of the last 10 years. So a well travelled person that is knowledgeable about the world and has lived and worked under many systems is barred from jobs due to having gained vital experience.

    It seems 30 years growing up in the UK has no relevance. Why would this be? Do they only want people that have succumbed to the BBC propaganda? It was quite an eye opener to return to the UK in the Brown years and see the country from an outsiders perspective.

  93. 93
    Time for a bit of Pride in our Country says:

    +1

    I do get fed up with all the lefty commentators on the BBC (quite a few BBC staff too) quoting what happens in other EU countries as if somehow their ways are better.

    But what brought about this step change? Until the mid 1990s it was accepted that on the whole the UK had got things right and the further East and South one went into Europe the more corrupt and inefficient it became.

  94. 94
    Catty Comment (Ms) says:

    VWs are now made in China and elsewhere, so we would be able to get cheap knock-offs instead. What’s not to like?

  95. 95
    Dave and his Liberal friends says:

    I believe history will show that bring the LibDems into government with their half baked policies (policies they never thought they would have to enact) was a massive detrimental step.

  96. 96
    ancient Shep says:

    We are, in short, flattened, a nation in debtors prison due to the profligacy of our Westminster millionaires.

  97. 97
    Con Artists says:

    A vote for LibLabCon = a vote for an EU Communist state & loss of UK sovereignty

  98. 98
    Anonymous says:

    Imagine an airline pilot that is too scared to land in fog. He talks with the traffic controllers and organises the circuits and makes sure that no collisions happen. Everyone is safe and, in his small immediate world, he congratulates himself for doing a wonderful job.

    But the fuel runs out in 10 minutes and there is no plan.

  99. 99
    Con Artists says:

    Dave is a Moron and a co*k

  100. 100
    Bullers says:

    The EU is a bit like the Dead Tree Press that Guido was always decrying, it will keep going, limping along, some countries will drop out (go bust, whatever) and others will get temporarily stronger in a declining market. It’s strange since Guido has joined and received his gelt from the DTP he has not referred to it as such.

  101. 101
    Lord Pont says:

    Min wage destroys jobs. If someone just isn’t worth the minimum wage to an employer then they just won’t be employed.

  102. 102
  103. 103
    nellnewman says:

    Yes I agree. cameron should have done what harold wilson did when after an election he found himself with the prospect of minority government.

    He took office and then went back to the electorate and got a better mandate. That was far more sensible and courageous that cameron’s decision to form a coalition.

  104. 104
    JH32904823094801 says:

    True. Our pension system was the envy of Europe.

    Then McRuin came along. ‘What do they want, a thank-you note?’ he sneered.

    When he had finished one of his little helpers DID leave a note, saying ‘There is no money left’.

    How helpful indeed.

  105. 105
    World traveller says:

    I agree entirely Anon. Your view mirrors my impression.

    After a 20 year absence, the last time I visited it was clear the place had become a complete shit-hole – so I took the next plane out again to warmer, sunnier, cleaner and more friendly climes (no, not Cyprus!).

    You poor residents really have been witnessing your country being sold out from under you. It is gone and far too late for you to ever hope to retrieve what has been taken from you. It will only continue to deteriorate, so if you have the means, get out while you can, especially you youngsters. The world is a wonderful place full of opportunities for you, so get out and grab them.

  106. 106
    nellnewman says:

    Well that leaves the lying lefty beeb with a red face again doesn’t it?

    They are just completely incapable of balanced reporting. It really is time they were broken up and sold off.

  107. 107
    Curly from Camden says:

    … not in Tower Hamlets or on Hackney Marshes it’s not mate!

  108. 108
    Alexsandr says:

    prawn. dont forget the locals next month.

  109. 109
    Bullers says:

    Do you think the EU is sort of resurgence of the Holy Roman Empire of a thousand years ago, where a lot of Europe was held by the Holy Roman Emperor with all the member kings holding on to their thrones only with the blessing of the HRE. Fawkes master in Spain was part of that Europe, the UK wasn’t in it.

  110. 110
    Curly says:

    Stop talking technical. Jimmy and Owen will get confused.

  111. 111
    Nogbad the Bad says:

    This kind of madness has been going on for years. I lived in Greece prior to them joining the EU. They were showered in so much money they didn’t know what to do with it. I took some olives to get pressed in a massive new factory paid for by the EU. While I was there the guy showed me the old press which was in a little stone shed and was powered by hand.

    The EU will not change. We need to get out now.

  112. 112
    Curly says:

    WTF would anyone wants to rush to Belgrade?

  113. 113
    Anonymous says:

    Harsh – but true.
    They are lucky people haven’t put 2+2 together yet. Weimar Republic ?

  114. 114
    Curly says:

    We all already know what to do about it. Further discussion is unnecessary. Stop it completely by midnight!

  115. 115
    Anonymous says:

    He should have said Istanbul (as the invaders like to call Constantinople).

  116. 116
    Dave was a Failure from the beginning says:

    + 100. Exactly right.

  117. 117
    Anonymous says:

    What about all the marinas that the EU built in every coastal towns of Greece. Some weird deal where if it was not completed they can not charge for its use. So free super yacht berthing for all.

  118. 118
    Lord Pont says:

    How can you ban non cash transactions ? Someone comes to visit and you make them a cup of tea is now illegal ?

  119. 119
    Bullers says:

    There maybe a wailing and gnashing of teeth in CCHQ, the cry will go up, “Where did we go wrong, it’s not fair”. Still it is politics, maybe Dave, because bringing the finances of the UK has not quite as easy as they thought it would be, is heading for the rocks, letting Liebore in who will
    1. Carry on and things will stay as they are now.
    2. Make a big total mess of the finances and make them totally unelectable for ever maybe even split.
    3. The final one they actually succeed (very unlikely I know) Dave’s worst nightmare

  120. 120
    Curly says:

    What happened to all those pitchforks we once had?

  121. 121
    HenryV says:

    Close and cash, close and cash. It has been the EU way with British industries, from steel to fish, since we joined. They force us to shut things down. And then give us cash. That it is our own cash we are getting back seems to escape the EUphiles.

  122. 122
    HenryV says:

    Such as?

  123. 123
    Bullers says:

    Yes, should have mentioned as well a reduction in mps and the number in the lords but I have mentioned it elsewhere

  124. 124
    Fish says:

    Enough won’t vote UKIP. Sceptical is right. A vote for UKIP is a vote for Miliband (and probably Clegg / Cable too)

  125. 125
    Anonymous says:

    Anyone know how long barroso and rumpy pumpy can REIGN for?

  126. 126
    bleubottle says:

    You are nicked !

  127. 127
    Eccles from Salford says:

    Until someone lights a bonfire methinks

  128. 128
    Con Artists says:

    Those bleed’en Labour Socialist thickos just don’t get it…. complaining about benefit “cuts” and “bedroom” tax’s…

    If we didn’t have 500,000 legal immigrants each year + xxx,000 illegal immigrants arriving each year, maybe we could afford a bit of under occupancy and allow “granny and grandad” to stay in their 3 bed council house that they’ve lived in for the last 20 years.. where they brough up Wayne and Tracy and annoyed the neighbours with their Spanish holidays and 5 BMW’s parked outside whilst they were all on benefits.. maybe that dream could have continued for the “poor”.. but not anymore..

    As it is, we need to move Granny and Grandad out to make way for continued colonisation of the UK by benefit tourists and economic migrants from the whole of Eastern Europe, the Middle East and North Africa.

    We are also now getting a wave of economic migrants from southern Europe, all entitled to housing benefit in Westminister or Notting Hill, and all paid for by the ever diminishing number of UK tax payers (BBC employees are exempt as 70% of them are on “offshore” personal service “self employed” contracts and so pay minimal tax..)

    Do Labour supporters not realise their country is being given away from underneath them, they are being sold down the river and their wages are racing to the bottom from increased compeition, both legal and illegal !!

    Their jobs are being done at less than minimum wage by legal Eastern Europeans who claim benefits and work cash in hand, or simply cash in hand by illegal immigrants. You reap what you sow, and the working classes have fcuked themselves with immigration…

    Maybe when Granny and Grandads flat is taken away, or Grandad cant afford to watch Sky and goto the pub 5 nights a week, then… they might, just might, start to smell the own brand instant coffee.

  129. 129
    Anonymous says:

    But I stayed and tried to correct the rot.

    I took on each of the institutions of this country on their basic lawless nature. I now have a full record of the complete corruption in this country in relation to individuals.

    It is all documented and covers the policing and regulatory quangos of this country. I just have one more to finish, and I can clearly show the corruption and incompetence.

    For this I have lost my right to vote, lost freedom of movement that are available to others, been threatened, lost the use of my property, been overtly followed to intimidate, insulted and ridiculed. All by public paid officials.

    Yet I have done no more than write and say what I believe. Not even one insult or piece of bad language has been used. Although they all have been given two chances to correct their behaviour, not one will even recognised the impending doom to which they so ineptly contributed.

  130. 130
    Political Guru says:

    If Cameron is still around in 2015 and actually wins a clear majority in the election – personally, I doubt he would – the possibility of a referendum will disappear like a puff of smoke.

  131. 131
    London is no longer truly English. says:

    Get an English devolved parliament. Imagine all the ukippers that the English can vote in and put an end to the EU? What are you waiting for?

  132. 132
    Farage Barrage says:

    David Cameron, the gift that keeps on giving.

  133. 133
    Handycock No1 Trougher in Parliament says:

    Vote Liberal Democrat and you will get hard working quality MP’s like me. Boaz.

  134. 134
    Welsh activist says:

    They bang on about Di Canio being a fascist, and allow convicted war criminals from all over the world to live in Britain on welfare, fecking hypocrites. http://tinyurl.com/4jh7zx7

  135. 135
    Welsh activist says:

    I have my doubts about Camerons motives, but i hope your right.

  136. 136
    Welsh activist says:

    Now if the MSM put that on the front page, along with sustained support of UKIP, who would address the issues, it would terrify the LibLabCon and possibly make a difference. Alas they won’t.

  137. 137
    Jack the Ripper says:

    I wouldn’t bank on it. It’s my belief the lamb was trying to rescue Dave.

  138. 138
    Con Artists says:

    Buy Palladium

    Pray tell us what EU legislation us Brits are behind ?
    Pls do…….

    Or piss off.

  139. 139
    Auguste says:

    Some of the comments show the Indie’s readership in a rather bad light.
    Perhaps they tripped and broke their funny bones.

  140. 140
    Con Artists says:

    JYR

    As you well know, the MEPs have very little, if any influence on legislation in the EU because it is the unelected and undemocratic beaurocrats who draft and propose all legislation.

    The EUs MEPs role in legislature is very different than MPs role in the UK.

  141. 141
    Mine d'Boggles says:

    You are naughty, But I like it.

  142. 142
    BBC Radio 5 (Labour) Commissioner says:

    All the minimum wage does is ensure that anyone whose labour is not worth the hourly rate is going to be rather unemployed.

    After EduKAYshun x 3 innit lots of school leavers’ labour is simply not worth the minimum wage, so they are doubly fucked.

    The left can squeal that it is nasty and NOT FAIR all they want, they’ve never had to run a fucking business. Or at least, one that doesn’t have unpaid interns having a right old funemployed wheeze on the bank of mummy and daddy.

  143. 143
    Demetrius Skortou says:

    This EU was brought about through False Flag Terrorism.

    All those bogus EU agreements & treaties, that were signed by Cameron, Brown, Major & Blair, etc, have all been for the benefit of just the rich & powerful.

    Terrorism & wars are just a means to an end.

    Terrorism (In its self) never actually achieves anything. Apart from what the security forces have been handed (in the form of more legislation) the rich will continue to get richer & richer, whilst millions of more people in the UK will be plunged further & further into poverty.

    Its amazing isn’t it, this worthless government are cutting benefits as well introducing this obnoxious bedroom tax the unemployed are going to have to pay, when in 2014 the government are going to some how find billions of pounds to throw away on millions more immigrants that are going to come flooding into our country.

    It seems to me the real reason for the bedroom & council tax, is because the government & local authorities need this extra revenue to hand over to these Bulgarians & Rumanians, in the form of all benefits handed to them. If, these new batch of immigrants don’t get any benefits, this will become a humanitarian & human rights issue (the press & media will love that one) and the European Court of Human Rights will step in and overturn any decisions Cameron makes that denies migrants access to all benefits.

    Cameron, is full of shit. All the 3 main parties policies are almost identical.

    A significant enough of the British electorate who have been voting for (mostly) Con.Lab,Lib, have really been voting for Organisations who have been in the pockets of the vested interests for as long as I can remember!


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