March 22nd, 2013

Lord Lucas Amendments in Full

Here are Lord Lucas’ three amendments to the Crime and Courts bill:

blogoff“A publisher who focuses on a specific locality or region and only reports national issues on an incidental basis that is relevant to such local or regional matters.

A publisher who operates as a non-charitable campaigning organisation and is publishing material incidental to the organisation’s aims and objectives.

A publisher who does not exceed the definition of a small or medium-sized enterprise as defined in Section 382 and 465 Companies Act 2006.”

Here we go…

Via @jimwaterson

71 Comments

  1. 1
    Casual Observer says:

    That sounds like an interesting amendment.

    With the 2/3 rule they are putting in to lock this down, the more spaghetti the better.

  2. 2
    Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin ( Member in absentia ) says:

    I am doing a brilliant impersonation of Lord Lucan.

    • 9
      Questions of our time says:

      Which is more loopy ?

      i) Leveson
      ii) Levesons Report
      iii) The Press Regulation Royal Charter
      iv) Prime Mentalist
      v) Huge Rants (sic) tax affairs
      vi) Hodge tax affairs
      vii) StarBux tax affairs
      viii) Tony Blairs expenses
      ix) A Campbell after a few bevies, with intelligence docs
      x) E Joyce after a few drams and a sing song
      xi) Vince Cables memory.

      Tough…

      • 13
        the savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

        The Roman number 6 definitely

      • 21
        Old England says:

        EU membership is pretty loopy and pretty expensive and pretty annoying!!

        • 38
          Krazy Kameron's Klueless Klown's Klub says:

          And the £11 billion foreign aid budget, funding India’s space programme, Pah Kiss Tan’s nuclear weaponry and Iceland’s Tourist Information Offices.

          • The Old Fella says:

            Well if you outsource the space program to India it costs much less and it avoids upsetting the yanks

  3. 3
    Fat benefits scrounger on Daybreak with massive droopy melons says:

    I lyke ciggies and cyder. You pay for dem.

    • 6
      Fat benefits scrounger on Daybreak with massive droopy melons says:

    • 26
      Abdul the Camel Herder says:

      Don’t like this bedouin tax.

      • 55
        Zeitgeist in Strawberry Hill says:

        An absolute must-not watch for all fellow liberal minded intelligensia in SW London (this includes our MP Vince) as it is a terrible footage of our next coalition partners priorities. We stand for free ciggies and cider: you heard it here first.

  4. 4
  5. 5
    Man with a small Blog says:

    Victory!!

  6. 8
    Ed Balls says:

    Lord Lucan?

    • 14
      Richard Bingham, 78-year-old South African country squire, says:

      Ssssh- you didn’t see me, right?

  7. 10
    Max (the cutter) Mosely says:

    snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…snip….snip…..snip….snip….snip…..snip…

  8. 12
    Boycott says:

    This is blatant left wing bias.

    The Grauniad is clearly a non-profit making campaigning organisation and the Independent a small or medium-sized enterprise as defined in Section 382 and 465 Companies Act 2006.

    Only proper newspapers will be caught by the legislation.

  9. 15
    Point of Information says:

    Honorable members should be drawn to the old proverb of the hungry monkey being left to guard the banana until lunch time on the issue of regulation of the free press.

    Said monkey, when initially charged with guardianship, took up position and kept the banana safe. But as time passed, the monkeys hunger grew such that after only 45 minutes of guard duty he succumbed to animal desire and attacked the very banana he was charged with guarding.

    Come lunch time, the owner of the banana returned and was perturbed to find only the skin of the violated banana remained, the fruit missing.

    Looking to the monkey, who was no longer hungry appearing to be very content, the owner quickly figured out what had happened.

    Being in a state of displeasure, instead of presenting the monkey with a reward of lunch, the owner turned his back on the monkey forevermore.

    Never again was the monkey entrusted with a banana.

  10. 16
    Sunny Hundal and his unfeasably small blog says:

    Both of my readers are concerned my organ will be deemed too big so I’m downsizing by only being available on a smartphone.

  11. 17
    MeinBeast says:

    Well a couple have just fond a way to keep knob jockeys out of their B UNT B
    Non profit

    The parliamentary scum are clueless

  12. 18
    Meanwhile says:

    KIrklees Council notes with deep concern the West Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner’s intention to appoint a Deputy Commissioner from among members of the Labour Party.
    Council opposes this decision on the following grounds:
    1) that in the current climate of reduced public spending, a salary of £53K for a
    Deputy is unnecessary, excessive and gratuitous;
    2) that the appointment of a Labour Party Member on such a salary reeks of
    cronyism that will further damage the fledgling reputation of Commissioners
    already badly tarnished by the poor turn out last year;

  13. 24
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    “A publisher who operates as a non-charitable campaigning organisation and is publishing material incidental to the organisation’s aims and objectives.”

    Why should political campaigners by exempt from the requirement to tell the truth?

    suggest as an alternative:

    “Included: all publications funded with public money or support, directly or indirectly, by financial or through benefit in kind, in all media.”

  14. 27
    SP4BS says:

    I dunno. Ignore the rest of what you think about this but.

    A local newspaper with bugger all staff calls you a twat, and you aren’t, then you should have some way to redress the balance with them.

    Not that this case could apply to myself.

  15. 28
    Anonymous says:

    I thought you were all going to ignore it. Now you’re tabling lame amendments to it.

    Pathetic. Just ignore it. Don’t engage.

  16. 30
    English for Beginners says:

    “Here are Lord Lucas’ three amendments”

    Lucas’s

    • 45
      Anonymous says:

      You are grammatically incorrect! Lucas’ is the correct use of the apostrophe.

      • 50
        Sir William Wade says:

        Not according to http://www.grammarbook.com and other sources, such as Fowler. The form Lucas’s is ‘preferred’.

        • 51
          East India Company Wallah says:

          Any variation will suffice,as a nation we cannot be too harsh to those who suffer from functional illiteracy-after all we gave the keys to the Eduacation ministry to New Labour and the teaching unions for thirteen years

        • 54
          Great Granddad:Prime Minister in Waiting, New Utopia Party says:

          It is not only ‘preferred, it is also correct. Suggest another amendment to the East German Charter – all journalists, bloggers and commentators who cannot properly handle apostrophes should be banned and transported to Australia.

      • 65
        Jethro Pedanticus says:

        45 et seq. It needs to be borne in mind that ‘Fowler’ was (were?) dangerously modernising liberal – possibly even Liberal – Pragmatist/s, and that the Apostrophe has been a source of happy disagreement for a long time (much as placing a comma before ‘and’ has been seen as just in Oxford, but atrocious in Cambridge. If you care to look at an Authorised Version (I deliberately do not write ‘Authorized Version’, nor do I write ‘King James Version’, still less ‘KJV’), you will find ‘their’s’ and certainly well into the Nineteenth Century, ‘her’s’ was not deemed incorrect (‘though ‘hi’s’ is, I think, never found) and ‘their’s’ unremarkable. I blame the French, who either failed to grasp the niceties of Anglo-Saxon Syntax, or were deceived by their sullen subjugates… or perhaps I blame the earlier ‘furriners’, those same Angles Jutes and Saxons, who subjugated the Celtish natives, whose language/s, employed inflexions both of consonants and vowels. As to those Celts, who ‘displaced’ the earlier Britons…
        Like our near neighbours the French, who have allowed pronunciation for several centuries) to run ahead of spelling (when was the ‘z’ last actually pronounced in, say, ‘respondez’, the final in ‘vous’?), we tend to take the short cut. In addition, it has to be remembered how far loss of teeth (prevalent among the wealthy who could afford honey, or the more lethal, even more costly, refined sugar) made sibilants particularly difficult to enunciate.
        “The form Lucas’s is ‘preferred’.” might very well be true of someone who had not lost most of her front teeth through Dental Caries: for someone whose false-teeth made successive sibilants embarrassing, ‘Lucas’ might be the only possible way of pronouncing the name.

        • 67
          Matilda says:

          Tho, thith ith why thome people lithp. They lotht their fangth to eating thugar lumpth.

          Nonetheleth, a very interethting hypothethith.

  17. 32
    I see, No? says:

    “A publisher who focuses on a specific locality or region and only reports national issues on an incidental basis that is relevant to such local or regional matters.”

    Why?

    • 46
      Casual Observer says:

      Possibly focused on a locality like Westminster, yet reporting on national interests which may be coincident with that locality ?

      Need an international interest get out clause as well.
      ;-)

  18. 33
    EU Watch says:

    When is a done deal not a done deal: When it’s Cyprus:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-22/and-rejected-40-minutes-later-optimism-denied-ecb

    Russia has allegedly (you never really know) refused to give any more money to Cyprus.

    Capital controls are already coming in. Restricting withdrawals up to EUR 1m per day when banks reopen is on the table, but one suspects that they will be out of the euro by Tuesday.

    ECB have given them until Monday to get an agreement with the EU before pulling the liquidity plug, which would shut 2 Cypriot banks down almost immediately if they stay in the euro.

    Switching back to Cypriot Pound is virtually guaranteed as now neither Russia nor ECB will be able to shore up the banks when the guaranteed run starts on reopening. The only way to combat this is default on some of the outstanding bonds, and print money to compensate for that which shall be withdrawn.

    Sound inflationary ? Yes. Rigid capital controls may be required for a period of time.

    If a lot of the foreign money is genuinely bent, those who hold it may not withdraw immediately anyway as they will understand the dynamic which will destroy their wealth. Rotating into gold before transferring out of Cyprus, or just sitting things out until the Gas comes on line could be best policy for those who have money in the Island.

    Consumer Prices will likely go up sharply irrespective.

    It should not be forgotten that Cyprus was used to bail out Greece when the crunch hit several years back. The problems Cyprus have now are due to that (Greece bailout pushed Cyprus bank debt through roof), and the hit the Cyprus economy (~5.2% of GDP !) took as a result of the Evangelos Florakis explosion back in 2011.

  19. 35
    John Wellington Wells says:

    Is there a sanity clause? ………. wait for it!

  20. 36
    Free Speech says:

    I think the first amendment should also contain ‘community’ so that if a blog reports on a specific community even if not geographically restricted they should be covered by the amendment.

  21. 40
    Justin Poofy Boots. says:

    Hello my fellow homos. Spring has Sprung!

  22. 41
    It's all going Pete Tong says:

    Meanwhile “The Troika” piles the pressure on Cyprus ahead of Ministers Meeting by upping contribution required from €5.8 BN to €6.7 BN to reflect changed circumstances

    “16.51 More on that speculation mentioned at 16.20 that the troika has upped the amount it wants Cyprus to raise by €900m. MNI is now reporting that a government offical told journalists that troika officials have indeed hiked the contribution demanded of Cyprus to €6.7bn from €5.8bn. “

    • 42
      EU Watch says:

      It is a bit irrelevant as there is no way Cyprus can stay in now.

      The big question, which is not being directly addressed, is that if the ECB is an all powerful central bank, why couldn’t it just print off the original EUR 5bn to sort this out ?

      Cyprus have been well and truly stuffed here.

      However: Should be good business for London when they exit, and potentially a good place to locate a data center and do business when the dust has settled.

    • 43
      anon y mouse says:

      If Cyprus fails so does the Euro, who would have trust in the EU, EU has created the problem only the EU can fix it, seems were all in it together when there’s fair weather but your on your own when the storms get up, the EU is run by very nasty people.

      • 49
        EU Watch says:

        If the ECB can’t print off currency to bail Cyprus out, especially after what Cyprus did to help with Greece, then it is clearly not fit for purpose.

        Part of job of central bank is to act as lender of last resort in situations like this.

        ECB issues a raft of 30 year bonds at low interest rate to cover this, done.

        That it cannot shows that people running EU are bad politicians (trying Soviet style wealth theft), bad economists (do not understand the basics), and the euro itself is clearly without value if they cannot be bothered to defend it.

        Article 50, referendum, vote UKIP, and out.

        • 62
          Blowing Whistles says:

          Just watched K G-M interview [CH4 news] German politician Mr Brinkhaus … on the issue of Cyprus.

          Mr Brinkhaus evaded the ‘blackmail’ issue but then went on to mention the IMF and in the next few words stated that we [the Germans] are not holding the gun to them [Cypriots] …

          Which sounded rather like it’s the IMF who are holding the gun at arms length through the ECB … Who’s really pulling the strings at the IMF?

          And then ‘Fitch’ have issued a ‘could be’ down graded warning against the UK.

          Them bastards in that banking family pulling the strings of their puppets must think that they have it all sown up. They don’t and the wrath they deserve – is coming.

          • Casual Observer says:

            IMF is UN, but run with US money to US agenda.

            Brinkhaus is right to distance Germany, they are not completely culpable in this. Schaeuble and his ilk more so that Merkel, who as outgoing Chancellor is being scapegoated. The only thing Germany cares about is inflation.

            The CCC for Cyprus is to be expected and fair: This should bump up significantly though if (when) they leave the euro, once their new currency and economy have stabilized.

            A moments thought reveals that rating Cyprus this way, whilst they are in the euro system, is meaningless.

            It is meaningless as the sovereign does not have full control of its monetary policy whilst in the euro system. Really the CCC is a further downgrade of the euro itself, and can only be regarded as similar to the way in which muni / corporate bonds are rated.

            For the UK, the S+P rating is the important one. Fitch shifting UK to negative watch and coming downgrade is to be expected as the budget and the numbers do not offer anything positive. Fitch will also be following Moodys lead.

  23. 52
    Blowing Whistles says:

    So … no protection for the massive and growing number of UK dissidents who have been ‘fitted up’ either eh.

  24. 53
    UK Watch says:

    Fitch has placed UK on negative watch following the budget.

    (We all know it was pants, but this makes it official)

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-22/cable-slumps-fitch-places-uk-rating-watch-negative

    Implication: Downgrade from another credit agency on the way.

    • 56
      Gobby educated lefty mong says:

      Ozzy Ozzy Ozzy, Out Out Out…

    • 57
      Chancellor Owen Jones says:
      • 61
        Owen's Mum says:

        Owen! Will you please stop all this politics nonsense. You’re not even from a poor background. We’re sending you to a private school, for goodness sake, and I do expect you will be joining your Uncle George’s stockbroking firm once you have passed your A-levels.

        And on that subject, I know you’ve dropped down to only 2 A-level subjects now as you couldn’t cope, and I’ve had a word with the headmaster and he says you can attend over half-term to catch with class and, with any luck, you might come away with two Cs.

      • 70
        damned impertinent questions says:

        Yes OWEN. At last a sensible contribution . Lets say we take 2 million of them nay pay them £100k each. That’s a total pay bill of £200bn per annum. The tax and NIC alone on that will raise £100 bn per annum. This will be a huge boost to the economy and almost at a stroke wipe out the deficit

        I cannot understand why no-one has thought of this before

  25. 60
    John Prescott says:

    Bloody hell, Lord Lucan! So they’ve found him have they after all this time hiding in the Sayshelles probably with a big fat wad of doe and look what he did with it hiding his identity this is why Ed (Special Needs) has annunciated this week that we need to beef up ID checks so that this sort of thing doesn’t happen the truth is that if we had the EU back then Lord Lucan could not have disappeared because of all the border checks but in the end the people will decide and that’s why I have been put on the job as part of the Age of Chancers to make sure the gravy train is sponsored by Bisto under a public-private scheme so shut up yer suthern jessies!

    • 64
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Shouldn’t you go back to sea – where you belong; 5 fat.homs deep?

      • 68
        The late great Terence says:

        I must go down to the sea again
        to the lonely sea and the sky.
        I left my shoes and socks there
        - I wonder if they are dry?


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