Guido’s Warning to Liberal & Progressive Bloggers:
Royal Charter Aims for Tabloids and Guido, It’ll Get You Too
One thing that surprises Guido is that his comrades in the liberal, progressive blogosphere have seemingly not noticed that the proposed Royal Charter aims to control and regulate them as well as the tabloids.
Schedule 4, Point 1 of both the government and the opposition’s versions of the Royal Charter will bring blogs under the regulator’s control:
“relevant publisher” means a person (other than a broadcaster) who publishes in the United Kingdom: a. a newspaper or magazine containing news-related material, or b. a website containing news-related material (whether or not related to a newspaper or magazine)”
@lisaocarroll Good luck with that.—
Guido Fawkes (@GuidoFawkes) February 12, 2013
Now the “What about Guido?” question has been answered by Maria Miller to Harriet Harman’s satisfaction, Guido’s rival bloggers should pause before rejoicing. You will all be regulated as well. British bloggers will, if politicians get their way, no longer have unregulated free speech on the internet.
So to all those in the progressive blogosphere who support regulating the freedom of the press, Guido poses this simple question: will you defy the new regulator or submit to that system of state control you support? If it goes through the fun will start when fractious bloggers start complaining about their rival’s falsehoods and demanding they print due prominence corrections. The chaos of every petty flame war on the internet spilling over into the new statutory-backed regulator’s complaint procedure system will paralyse it. Have Maria Miller and Harriet Harman thought this through?
To all those bloggers who support this press control Charter because they hate Murdoch and Dacre, Guido offers this cautionary counsel, remember that the new regulator will cover you as well. You will have all the expense and bureaucracy of compliance as Murdoch and Dacre face, without the means. Unless like Guido and the Spectator you plan to become media outlaws too…
The net will always win in the end.
Bloggers will move to the US. Freedom of Speech is a constitutional right. All paid for newspapers are going down the toilet.
Blogger.com is already there…
The State is playing a blinder.. WELL DONE.. You have caught the liberals with their Pants round their ankles..Like all good compliant Poofs.
The Tactics of a Great set of thinkers.. I knew there was far to much being put into the public domain.. Once again Well done.. You have won..
The rise of the Fourth Reich.. National Socialism throught the Back Door.. Nationlised Banking.. Ownership of all Private business.. What a fu-king coup d’état. You have to take your hat off to this ingenious plot.. Probably 40 years in the making.
I would just like to take this opportunity to say: “Fuck off, Hugh Grant, you sanctimonious whoring dickhead.”
All politicians are Hunts. Dyou hear me?
I said cnuts, not ‘Hunts’.
oigirlewirletwrli.
the vagina fearing girls r inchurge.
hail the vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv.
It’s ironic that when it comes to a certain middle-east country, the Daily Telegraph’s comments section allows comments Guido would quickly censor.
I say that the regulators and the press are all a bunch of unprincipled wankers.
But carrying umbrella liability insurance, which provides duty-of-defence if, as, and when you ARE sued in the States, would be a good belt-and-braces idea. (And believe me, a cottage industry of ambulance-chasing libel-law specialists in the US WILL emerge, who will work with UK lawyers in this regard, as a result of UK bloggers removing their blogs to be based in the US.) Trouble is, how many bloggers can afford it? In addition, too many suits filed against you might cause premiums to go up, and possibly you will eventually lose that coverage. Not to mention, by employing the duty-of-defence brief, you allow that brief to pay token amounts to plaintiffs in the interest of quick quiet resolution of claims. What additional freedom you will enjoy in the States may come at a dearer cost than you might have anticipated. Don’t think this fact hasn’t been taken into account by some of the shrewder minds behind this regulation business. Specious suits in a far-off forum can spell a death-of-a-thousand-cuts if you’re going to have to settle them all, and if the time comes, can you afford to go over to the States to defend yourself if the case is too large for settlement, both in terms of cost and time? I haven’t even dealt with the fact that the cost of the servers themselves will become a Sellers’ Mar*ket where signing up UK bloggers is concerned.
Any journalist backing state control of the press should hang their heads in shame.
It’s quite bizarre that hacks on supposed ‘liberal’papers like the Guardian and Independent want to end centuries of freedom,end investigative journalism and stifle legitimate debate.
Indeed very true, the supporters of a controlled Press should be ashamed.
But don’t mistake the Guardian for a liberal newspaper in the normal sense of the word. The Guardian is now something akin to a student newspaper, run by angry lefty twats, the sort from rich backgrounds, daddy paying for them, who rail against “inequality” and how bad white people are and how wonderful socialism and anything foreign is while they type away on their macbook in the Tuscan villa. The Guardian are these days profoundly anti-liberty and more interested in demanding thought-crime legislation to imprison people for being “sexist”, “racist” etc.
And Own Jones is our pin up.
That’s why I described the Grauniad and Indy as ‘supposed’ liberal newspapers.
They preach liberalism but prefer the complete opposite.
It’s all very simple really.
Ask yourseld one simple question “Would you like your country to be run by people like Harriet Harmen, Ed Balls and Hacked Off participants who believe the “free” press should be stifled to hide their incompetence and misdemeaners?
If you vote YES, then our country is in a worse state than even I believe it to be, and the BEST that can happen to us is we will no longer be of any relevence in the free world.
Arggghh the Toynbee… while I am free to express my thoughts I just wish she would fuck off to China and live the socialist dream.
No, North Korea is the socialist dream with cannibals and starvation?
China is, in many ways, a freer country than the UK seems to be at the moment.
r u hot.cha.
Everyone needs to read this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294552/Exposed-Secret-dossier-reveals-cynical-ploy-Hacked-Off-campaigners-target-Tory-rebels-exploit-misery-murdered-Milly-Dowlers-family-force-new-press-law.html
Hacked off is simply an alliance of celebs caught with pants down and left-wingers desperate to silence any disagreement. In private they don’t even try to hide they are a political group working for the left- explosive stuff and deserves to be in the Seen Elsewhere section.
How true.
That is a textbook example of how the group have been using Saul Alinsky tactics.
The best rated comment on there as well, which is obviously being voted up by those in cahoots is testament:
‘What a cheap attempt to discredit attempts to control the Press from publishing anything they want about people no matter how truthful it might be just for a story…This is NOT an attempt to ‘bring down’ Cameron, as has been stated, but an attempt to STOP the Press from publishing lies and propaganda !’
That in itself is black propaganda, and it is not possible for the press to publish anything but propaganda when one understands what propaganda is: Communication intended to influence thoughts and opinions, unavoidable when imparting information.
The second highest rated comment:
‘State regulation not the answer…very dangerous for democracy’
Much more sensible, and is white propaganda.
Should also mention that the highest rated comment mentioned above also appears to be the newest as well.
Labour mailing list being used to martial support again ?
“martial support”
There’s an art to it.
Nice one, Jimmy.
Yeah, fine, but when the Saul Alinsky tactics are exposed and lose a certain bit of their “intellectual legitimacy,” up pop the Cass Sunsteins of the world– the “good cop” version of the same thing. “Oh, we’re not looking to ban or control everything, we just want there to be an alternative which, after the people compare it to what’s there now, means no-one will want to persist in the old way since it has become too fraught with problems, and we offer another ‘path of less resistance,’ if you will.” Of course the reason it’s fraught is that they’re the ones who have been freighting it. It’s called “choice architecturing.” Sunstein’s solution for blogs that engage in what he believes to be conspiracy theories is to bring pressure to bear on them by taking the piss outta them cleverly, by trolls seeming to agree in posts but who keep raising unsettling questions which make the blogger look evasive if he ignores them, and mendacious if he answers them; i.e, make the readers suspicious that the blogger isn’t on the up-and-up– the more paranoid will think the blogger was “gotten-to,” and the less paranoid will simply throw their hands up in disgust. Get private entities to do it if possible, so that the Government’s prints aren’t all over it. It is not a far reach for the opponents of a blog like Guido’s to try to paint it as a “conspiracy theory” blog, and engage in this tactic to attempt to discredit him. Of course it will all a be concerted effort– a conspiracy all its own, if you will– but remember that old line about what the Devil’s greatest trick is…and Sunstein wins, if he makes you think that a posting like ours is possibly in on the gag.
Am I the only blogger on here who has fought off an endless and consistent stream of professionally paid trolls from “BOTH OF” the left and the right who has “KICKED THEM FIRMLY INTO TOUCH” time and again …
save that I have only been here for just under a year?
n.b. The left tribe rely upon the right tribe and VICE versa to exist. I have stated several times that they are both wrong; but essentially that their tribes are corrupted, crooked and fraudulent while they do their tit for tat thing of overall deception.
dustunce is beeng crated betweein qualitee und janc,
Have hacked off been blackmailing MPs?
Yes
If bloggers can’t just make things up whenever they feel like it, what is the point of them? You may as well regulate the walls of public toilets.
Hacked Off has no problem with repeating the lie that Millie Dowler’s phone messages were deleted by journalists.
And the Daily Hitler has no problem repeating the lie that they weren’t. We don’t know if they were, but the point is you wouldn’t put it past them.
So “presumed innocent until proven otherwise” means nothing to you then? Well at least not for those you don’t like anyway.
I think you’ll find that the Daily Mail is right wing and Hitler was left wing.
Quoting your National Socialist hero Hitler Jimmy?
He instigated state control of the press and stopped freedom of information too, didn’t he?
“I can’t prove he’s guilty, M’Lud, but you wouldn’t put it past him. I rest my case.” It’s like a line from a sitcom.
The “it’s the sort of thing they would do” belief is what got piss on prisoners Piers into so much trouble.
He thought the story was true because he wanted it to be true. And at the time those defending him said exactly what mr jimmy has.
“It’s the sort of thing they would do. It doesn’t matter if the story isn’t true. They’d do it if they could,anyway”
Same as the Mail claiming 2 million Bulgarians will eat all our swans or the EU is banning national anthems.
Some proof is needed first, surely?
Yes but repeating the story on an hourly basis doesnt mean its true !and to be honest if my daughter had been murdered by a maniac, i couldnt care less what happened to her phone,.its a displacement activity latched on to by the hacked off crowd and it is disgraceful.
“He thought the story was true because he wanted it to be true.”
It was true. The dodgy photos meant of course that was conveniently forgotten because a journo getting rocky ryanned is a much bigger story than prisoners being tortured.
We have the press we deserve.
Credibility alone must determine whether propaganda output should be true or false.
The Met said in their statement they believed some individual voicemails were automatically deleted 72 hours after they had been listened to.
I believe the police indicated that there was no evidence that the messages had been deleted by journalists. That is the way with evidence; you can collate evidence to show something happened but if something didn’t happen there is no evidence. I believe the Guardian did in due course apologise for the mistaken claims.
So jimmy, vill zis lead to ze burning of ze books again?… i quite enjoyed zat.. bagsy 50 shades of shite, i vill enjoy burning zat heap of krrrap!
You never did ‘get’ the internet did you Jimmy?
You just made that shit up Jimmy. There are laws of defamation.
There are, but they’re pretty useless unless you have money and the person who libels you is in a position to pay up. No one with a braincell is going to bother suing a blogger. Streisand effect ring any bells?
Ok, we won’t bother with expensive legislation then.
You may have a point. I’d be surprised if any of this made the slightest difference.
For once I hope you’re right but I doubt it. If they don’t work, the powers that be will just want to strengthen them. That’s how slippery slopes work Jimmy, and as an historian of Marxism in practice, you should know that.
Newspapers and magazines in the UK are governed by strong libel laws.
Many media organisations have their own rigorously enforced codes of conduct.
The fact that the laws weren’t properly enforced during LABOUR’s reign, when they were busy sucking up to every news outlet, shouldn’t mean that centuries of a free press are abandoned.
No major media outlet in the UK has been closed down for offending the government since Thames TV
That’s a myth too Jimmy. Thames offered barely half of what Carlton bid.
No doubt Maggs was pleased that the death on he rock mob got shafted, but that wasn’t why Thames didn’t get a franchise.
Impossible to prove one way or another.
Murdoch shut down the News of the World- Britain’s biggest selling newspaper.
Not very decisive today are you Jimmy?
He hasn’t got a bloody leg to stand on and he knows it.
If Thatcher had tried to introduce these draconian measures to control the media, Jimmy would have been manning the barricades.
And I’d have been standing right next to him.
To KOFP – you delude yourself if you “think” the UK is governed by “strong libel laws” – the UK is a magnet for monied libel litigants …
The UK’s libel courts / laws are a world wide human disgrace of deception, duplicity and brown paper envelope passing.
FFS let us reveal the basturds for what they are, pieces of shite that should not of seen the light of day.
No Government ever used, manipulated and threatened the Press to the extent and in the way that Labour did for thirteen years 1997 to 2010, thirteen years of spin and outright lies and now they want a gag, chutzpah Milliband chutzpah.
If this attempt to curb press freedom goes through-every newspaper forced to comply against their will should refuse to cover any stories involving the celebs or politicians that supported it.
Let Harman,Milliband, Clegg,Grant be ignored by the mainstream media and blogs.
No more coverage of the Labour Party in the Daily Hitler?
However would we cope?
Jimmy, you’re a narrow minded fool.
Whereas you are an eloquent and persuasive adversary.
Jimmy just wants to shut the Mail down because it prints stories he doesn’t personally like or agree with. Typical lefty, thought control fuckwit.
We should immediately implement the soviet style of media management, especially where I am concerned. Boaz.
I would be very suprised if the Leveson ‘team’ ever actually ‘passed’ my complaint to Leveson personally about Common Purpose – the smoke ‘n mirrors was that the team of legals kept shtum among themselves … Big Mistake – Leveson “team” – I gotcha all yer names.
I’m off to bed now – but It is theTRUTH that will win out in the end – nly this time round the bastards ARE NOT GOING TO BURY IT – ‘Aided and abetted’ by some poxy put up job of a judge.
Lessons are never learned.
True. Let’s have another run on the banks
I am going to draw out my £5.75 and invest it in fags. That’ll show em.
best to stay schtum.
@ the nite of the gawds day its all twist ‘n shout.
genius s the man who says a lot but is virtually of no valu.
use less words, use sign language.
more pawaar but dispensed v v slawli.
Pirate Radio survives
Pirate blogs will arise
Servers will be placed in China, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela. Argentina might also be sympathetic. Postings on Al Jazeera also come to mind.
Free speech will always win.
An Al Jazeera report today about the Cyprus Bank Robbery was far superior than anything broadcast by the BBC.
Almost anything is superior to the BBC these days, its amazing the things that go on in the world that the BBC are oblivious to.
They only see things through red tinted spectacles.
we have other things to think warmly of, he he he.
Aside from their blatant leftwards slanting of news, the Beeb were once a broadsheet and are now tabloid. Which celebrity is on a dancing show is rated as news, whereas the major news in Europe hardly gets a look in. They’re strong on smut as well.
We like smut. Smutty people like smut. Smutty people are like that.
Smuttadoodledoooooo
Anyone got another taxpayer funded line I can snort?
tax the payer 2 reduce value.
it is getting more difficult to pay homage.
getselfsuffice.
feetonthegrawndmind.
We do smut because it’s what the plebs want and deserve.
We keep the news to ourselves, knowledge is power.
The quality level of BBC reporting must be at its lowest over the last 40 years.
Even state Chinese stations will in the short term get better coverage.
As for “BBC World Service” this has been taken over by BBC Radio 4, very slightly toned down on its left wing bias.
Without Reuters the BBC would be an even paler shell of itself 50 years ago.
Listen to Radio 4 Feedback programme to hear the arrogance of these people as their own good ship BBC Titanic slips lower beneath the internet driven media waves.
Fuck ‘em, let’s go for them big time.
Russia too. Given the RT experience you’ll be fine so long as you don’t talk about Russia everything else is free game – and more power to them!
BBC’s Robert Peston has been attempting to calm the nerves of those with deposits in Cypriot banks today- rather than telling it like it is.
Presumably he doesn’t have his life’s savings in a Cypriot bank?
We have been playing down the Cyprus bank account tax as our mentors in the Labour Party / Guardian state the EU will get cross with us if we tell the truth and display shock at the state stealing their own peoples’ money.
Well said Guido.
Maria Miller and the Tories pose a bigger threat to freedom – and not just press freedom – than anyone else in contemporary Britain. Only UKIP seems sane!
Maria Miller is becoming a menace to civilization. She also recently threatened to use the Parliament Act to force through gay marriage if the Lords block it, despite it being in no party’s manifesto. Government by diktat is obviously her preferred modus operandi.
Commissioner Blair of the Met wanted to control and register blog users. He was one of the chief architects of the politicisation of the police, and his legacy survives
Is the free society in terminal decline? Who is left to speak for it?
Yes and no one is.
The free society is dead. Get over it
we always have 2% freedum to b imperfuckt. anymore dends on willpawaar.
we always have 100purcent freedum to detach.
acess to realiti the movie has been edited edited n edited.
only took 7000 yrs to get to nah.
Will they be able to touch you, Guido, published from outside the UK as you are?
Would they want to?
Yes, if only to ‘regulate’ you out of our lives.
Come on now, where would we go to read your bollocks?
its all about control
It cetainly is! They are even suggesting tha council officials and other agents enter your home to `value` your paintings and furniture.
Now that’s a useful free service.
Why would you think it will be free?
You ‘re telling me!
fascist EU/ IMF
Have Maria Miller and Harriet Harman thought this through?
Oh! Do behave! When has Harriet Harman thought anything through?
I agree with SC’s comment. Don’t forget that she is a very devious and manipulative lawyer! Now who could she be protecting above all else but the’legal fraternity’ / ‘The Law Society’?
Our lives are being destroyed by ‘legals’ who always hide behind their legal cloaks of ‘privilege’ – but who never come to court to give ‘testimony on oath’ themselves whereby they can be done for perjury / perverting the course of justice etc.
Harman’s Sister ought to have been put in prison for ‘contempt of court’ – she named a child in a child case. Funny how the rules were bent to accomodated a sister of the legal fraternity.
The ‘rules’ were not bent the sister got suspended from the roll
You are the letters editor of the Daily Mail – Simpson and I have already claimed your scalp you twat.
Why was she “bent” awell.
in the nite only creative drama lasts.
no harm in a but of sweetness. 2purcent at most.
no drama when time stands still.
om namah shivah.
When she was blowing the two Eds.
Don’t vorry my frens, ve hev vays. Vezzer zu are tor or against, ve vill alvays vin in ze end.
” If I were alive I know which side I would be on “
On mine!
I don’t recollect sides.
Who is Chris Huhne ?
I know! Oh no I don’t – but I did know yesterday.
Can we join in?
Still mine dear I hope?
Indeed you and Sir Keith Joseph are being looked into Missy. And it don’t look good from the outset.
This will likely hit the liberal progressives harder than this site.
Why ?
Leaving aside the complexities of attacking this site legally, the progressive sites by their nature are a little more radical and critical in the output they offer. They also are more likely to provoke litigation, particularly from those on this side of the blogosphere who have had enough of their smears, revisionism, spin, misrepresentation etc.
The irony is that Murdoch is not going to be affected by this at all. In fact it should help him, as when forced to adopt a strict state line his publications will likely capture market with a much more savvy presentation than the liberal left outlets provide.
For him, such a move will get attention as it will be new and innovative. For the competition, they will be trapped now in an enforced business as usual, looking even more old and tired.
The secret to Murdoch’s success is brand and packaging. Even though a more responsible Sun is a culture shock, it is possible, happening right now, and it will demolish the Mirror.
Oh, and as per the tweet above: This is in both Tory and Labour proposals verbatim same.
As I menitoned here: http://tinyurl.com/c89fjrd
Key points:
SCHEDULE 3 RECOGNITION CRITERIA
8C. A self-regulatory body should provide non-binding guidance on the interpretation of the public interest that justifies what would otherwise constitute a breach of the standards code. This must be framed in the context of the different provisions of the code relating to the public interest.
- This body defines what is in the public interest.
In addition to the above, section ‘e’ is also noteworthy.
SCHEDULE 4: INTERPRETATION
1
e) “news-related material” means:
i. news or information about current affairs;
ii. opinion about matters relating to the news or current affairs; or
iii. gossip about celebrities, other public figures or other persons in the news.
Murdoch and others appear to think that they ‘OWN’ news and celebrity gossip and that the public must be beholden to them for it / pay for it. Big Mistake.
“No one” OWNS or has a God given right as a monied up media mogul the news, tittle tattle, gossip, information – whatsoever.
Exactly
The Murdoch Mob sadly now including Guido seem to think that they are above the law
Exactly what they attack others for thinking
The freedom of one ends where the freedom of another person begins
Freedom is not a one way street
Agree with that. The total cynicism here is that they only own the distribution, and have abused a position of trust with content and acquisition.
But the greater cynicism is that the law which should have prevented some of the excesses was not enforced.
No one is above the law, but there is a problem with the law which was designed to protect freedom not being enforced for the purpose of getting a more powerful law in place to restrict freedom.
In hindsight all publishers were either blind or complicit in this deception. Failure to properly inform and educate the public on such issues over the past 20 odd years is ultimately what has brought this state of affairs about.
However, M’s bottom line will not be too badly affected, whilst as we are seeing already the liberal left end of the media spectrum will be decimated.
CO – Re: Failure to properly inform … educate … past 20 years
They – via Bliar set out ‘deliberately’ to dumb down education. They can’t have the plebs knowing too much about how they operate hence the opposite in reality of what was preached by fork-tongued Mini.sters.
“NEWS” – Free at the point of delivery
The news today on “The Free Free News” is that at a screening of the latest Propaganda film by Ken Loach – his ‘Spirit of ’45′ propaganda fim down in Southampton was attended by noted mouthy Labour MP John Denham. many in the audience were Labour tribesmen all of course attending to praise their Kenny for his propaganda film.
NEWS – is not an ‘owned’ thing of Murdoch nor Rothermere nor the Guardian Trust.
Two big fingers from the Public Interest. Stick it up your bums.
We interviewed our Ken Loach on his new film together with a few fellow travellers. We have to admit he has not changed at all from his young days at being a loony left wing radical.
Over the years he has learnt to totally ignore true facts that he does not agree with. His prejudice and bias is a joy to behold.
He is a true Comrade to our cause.
Good luck with that indeed. There’ll be a war before that happens.
So long as posting pictures of pretty girls in their bras is still allowed, I’ll be sound as a pound. Insh’allah.
FFS you muzzie twat I thought you prefered them to young to have tits.
The press could have avoided all this if they had only accepted 18 years ago that the nation’s top film star being arrested in a car with a cheap prostitute was not a newsworthy thing.
So there’s absolutely no bally truth in the rumour it was a publicity stunt to advertise your latest film you absolute rotten shit.
Daddy told me to be careful of you.
No really dahling-its true-divine brown ate my hamster
How much did Grant pay the journo/photographer he screamed at in effect screaming to the bloke “I hope you die of can.cer ….” Why have the press forgotten that one?
Today’s Hard Question: If you were a small country, surrounded by Arabs killing Arabs, and dreaming of killing you, would you trust them?
Is it the small country dreaming of killing me or the arabs dreaming of killing me?
Similarly the trust question refers to the small country or the arabs?
I am sure the 800 citizens of the Vatican City State are really nice people.
Anyone got any footage?
For someone who includes so many disputable “facts” in her articles, it’s rather brave of her to support million pound fines and front page retractions.
One can only surmise that the bitch knows The Guardian is finished anyway and her journalistic [sic] career with it, and so in a final act of spite she supports all and any attempts to ruin the independence of the rest of the British press, 300 years of hard fought for freedom of expression going down the pan for a few sexually deviant luvvies!.
The MPs are still upset that their expenses got revealed by the telegraph, under this legislation this sort of behaviour will not happen.
Also dodgy companies such as the superinjunction by trafagu (!) would not be able to be revealed by the guardian.
Also could the daily mail have publically named Stephen lawrences killers and then asked them to sue them.
Also the times did an expose on muslim gangs in the midlands and a campaign on safer city cycling.
Sky has done more to promote cycling in this country than the guardian with all its cycle blog campaigns has instead asking such questions as fixed wheel or free wheel which is best !!
The guardian is backing this law by recently apart from phone hacking it has become a parody of itself as it now has moved to more from serious journalism.
Disclosure I do not work for Murdoch or any of his related publications or receive any income from him
can’t argue with that.
The thing is, they really, truly are. All of them, everywhere.
… or that K. Blair business …
Well at least with the new law the Guardian would have HAD to put its correction over telling lies about the NotW deleting phone messages from Milly Dowlers phone on the front page, well so says Hattie Hatemenperson.
The guardian still has money in the bank for a few more years yet.
The question is how much can it sell autotrader for as APAX will drive a hard bargain. in the area it is in a lot of other sites are making inroads into its market share, such as gumtree. which car etc.
It also owns topright group which APAX has written down the value to Zero.
If I worked for the observer a once great newspaper ruined by the guardian I would in the long term be worried as the Scott Trust remit is to protect the guardian and not the observer. You can see how over the years the observer has been subject to cuts and is a poor shadow of itself.
… cherchez la femme … as usual .
I wonder if the lefties realise this, the next time they spout some shite they could be feeling the regulator’s hot breath on their neck?
Or do they think it is only howwid, howwid right wing papers/blogs this will apply to? I think they do.
This is exactly what they believe. That’s the problem.
This was of course inevitable. All they have been waiting for is a worthy sounding pretext, as they do with all censorship. At least the totalitarian states are upfront about wanting to control and monitor. “Democracies” just wait for pretexts to come along.
I for one support statutory press regulation. It is wrong that the press can get away with printing outright lies to support their dubious political opinions.
Of course you’re right.
The support the press gave to Blair over his illegal war was outrageous.
Polar Bears are multiplying by the day – Be Afraid – be very afraid you myth believer.
Oh can’t lose a good opportunity to take de pi55 outa Ed.
Ed – do you believe in mytht ath well?
when u gonnacum.
Lets look forward to the day when newspapers only print adverts.
Good point. The bedwetters are all to busy thinking Murdoch to actually look in the mirror
You can bet that the BBC will still be sprouting crap as instructed by their socialist employees and other outside influences, so will be immune from the legislation.
Now now……be fair. She was just a whore not a crack whore and he wasn’t wearing Nazi uniform
damn ugly though!
Thank you for clarifying that.
And she didn’t shop me to the cops, I did that all by myself thinking my witty charm, looks and hair would get me off… ** chortle **
Were you there I didnt see you?.
“The public’s right to have a say in writing the rules” – Huh!
That’s what it states in all the adverts by The Free Speech Network.
The only problem is ‘The statement reads well’ [what it says on the tin ain’t quite whats inside the tin) but the reality is that those of us – The real public are having our voices drowned out and we’re not being invited to take part in the writing of the rules. Evidence a plenty.
I await an invite – to have my say. Contact Guido he can pass the invite along.
The totalitarian state has arrived. Soon have the Stasi and the Thought Police.
You mean we already havent got these twats.
wrong uniform then? do you have a stasi one yet?
OED says ‘news’ is
“Newly received or noteworthy information, esp. about recent or important events”
So News is regulated but gossip isn’t? So OK and Now can publish what they want as it isnt news but The Times cannot? This looks like another Dangerous Dogs Act
I am wrong.The Though Police and New Speak have arrived. News has been redefined to encompass gossip about celebrities …just so Hugh ( I am a love interest) can keep details out of the media on his whoring and where his latest little bastard has been born
The UK constitution says that freedom of speech is only guaranteed in Parliament.
The rest is by unwritten agreement.
The Mcanns like hugh Grant and Jeffries – are put up jobs. They have little if any idea about the true machinations and agendas behind those pulling their strings at Hacked off. Not one of them has any true knowledge or understanding of how malevolent politicians and media moguls via their journo puppets operate in the Westminster Circus tent of wolves.
Operation Grange, if conducted honourably by the yard, could sort out one of the bleating whingers at least! Fat chance, though.
What line would Hacked Off et al be taking if the holidaying parents whose child disappeared have been Sharon and Dwain unemployed and on benefits out socialising and leaving their children alone?
Exactly.
The scary looking guy who was nearly fitted up for the Tabak murder has the strongest case out of the lot of them.
But he is not wheeled out quite so frequently as he is scary looking.
Incidentally, what happened to him was really out of order, and the main culprits to blame in the media were an already regulated broadcaster, not the free press.
There is something of the night about Jeffries – in his own right. A very oddball indeed.
I’ m sick of being lectured by people like Grant,McCann,Coogan,Mosely and Harman.
They don’t have any right to dictate my access to information.
+ 1
Add JK and Charlotte Church to the list.
I look forward to not reading about her detention and execution.
Harriet go fuck yourself with something fatal.
having statutory regulation means that in future a government can start to manipulate the press, this means blocking sites and other laws.
The road to a hell is paved with good intentions, seeing the guardian has articles by JK rowling, steve coogan and hugh grant. The individuals such as Robert murat and mr Jeffries who were treated badly by the press seem to have been sidelined.
This seems to be a law to protect celebrities how have the means to fight back.
meanwhile the guardian for steve coogan, hugh grant and JK rowling sucking up to them will give them valuable publicity, so they have sold their souls to the guardians campaign
The McCanns are being used by Hacked Off. The proposals made by Cameron will give them all of the remedies that they seek.
Press regulation is something else
If the levy goes ahead, !taly may see some runs:
http://news.sky.com/story/1065618/cyprus-savings-raid-crosses-financial-rubicon
In July 1992, !taly’s Socialist Prime Minister G!uliano Amat0 imposed a one-off levy on bank accounts.
It was a mere 0.6% in comparison with Cyprus’s scheme, and it still left a lasting scar on the country’s financial psyche.
Any claims that this is one-off are of course b/s.
Cyprus has a simple choice
To be bailed out by the EU AND IMF
or b a n k r u p t cy and the deposits will be worth ZERO
I rather hope they choose the latter to show the world including many superficial window lickers here what all these bail outs are avoiding
The ECB and IMF are rotten to their cores and beholden to you know who.
They have the Icelandic option. Go for it!
The Fact that the EU can impose dipping into one individuals account let alone the Cypriot peoples – speaks VOLUMES about the out of control Monster that is the EU.
It hasn’t been passed by the Cypriot government just yet.
The presidents party is in a coalition with only 20 of 56 seats.
9 Votes in addition to his own parties are required.
Word is, the coalition partners are not happy about the tax on deposits, and he does not have full support within his own party either.
He was elected only about 4 weeks back on a pledge that a deposit tax was a red line which would not be crossed. Like a cast iron guarantee.
I think they may strike this down, default and exit Euro.
In order to exit euro they would also need the public holiday following a weekend, and to shut down all electronic transfers.
That the deal should so obviously fail, with default guaranteed in May if it does, is significant. The truth is, no one really knows what is actually happening until that debate takes place and a vote happens.
Except of course, pulling out money from Cypriot banks ASAP, if they are open outside Cyprus tomorrow.
ve ave many many pubic olidays, sir.
Nice and warm here, thank goodness I pulled my Cypriot deposits last week when the kind judge allowed me the weekend.
Good evening very good Moussaka
Judging by your olive bashing reactions
There will be few moussakas all around when I come for my summer hollies
The damage has already been done. No-one in thier right minds would bring money into the EU and leave it in a bank.
You see. That’s why I sold all the gold off early. 16 years early. Prudence.
Yeah you Moron and on the advice of Goldm.an Sucks. You retard.
90 – Blowing WHistles – Do you mean out of control Mobster monster E U?
we could add many more adjectives … Behemoth zombie …
I thought it would be Spain first, that’s why i emptied my account’s weeks ago and advised you lot to do the same. With regards to Leveson we can fuck them up come 2015 by voting UKIP. Monumental effort required but it could be done right?
An aunt has money deposited in the Bank of Cyprus in Greece. Ironically she put it there as she thought it would be safer than in a Greek bank!
Does anyone know if she’d be affected if this levy is passed or does it only affect deposits on Cyprus?
How many journalists are under arrest in
Iran?
Russia?
North Korea?
China?
Great retain?
If Sam Kiely were to be honest with himself he and many like him are ‘living a lie’.
Probably better to ask how many have been killed in those countries, as well as for the imprisonment statistics.
Dead folk don’t count in prisoner stats.
ROFL
Never have so many jounalists been arrested and charged in England as since Murdoch got his filthy paws on UK nespapers
Under existing UK laws as well
He first had to entrap enough politicals & Wig wearers to then leverage them around to his way of Business Warfare.
It is easy to overlook the fact that M, unlike the others, set up a special committee to directly assist police with their investigations and ultimately root out the bad apples.
Trinity M!rror have only just started. Grauniad may be shut down before they have to go through this.
It’s easy to overlook the fact that he did that as a strategy for damage limitation to the rest of his interests.
I’m looking forward to having the police investigate me so I can setup a MSC to decide what information I’m going to pass to them. Suspect however, I won’t get too far with that approach.
An internal committee looking at its own navel. That’s like the fuck.ing coppers policing themselves – and admitting all their wrongdoing and criminal activity. Mea culpa it ain’t. Please…
Agree with both points.
However: Since when did defending your interests, personal and corporate, become a crime ?
As long as you are not perverting the course of justice etc…
Of course
He set up a host of very unmemorable celebs
And then demolished them
Like City traders, he won on the way up AND down in these peoples artificial careers
Superb cynical manipulating
PS Though in deep shyt now thank God
Wrong It is The freedom of the British people that is now in deep shit. Thanks to the stupidity of the Lefties.
Only in Britain would journalists be castigated for reporting the truth about doctors with political connections to the top who are suspected by the Portuguese police of in being involved in their daughter’s disappearance.
There is no freedom. Don’t you get it? The time to act was years ago and people did nothing but stand on the sidelines and gawk.
Big Bro – your comment is pathetic. Many years ago there were people who did their utmost – they didn’t have the benefit of the net. They DIED knowing that they had been robbed and thieved from by the state its dirty politicians and the msm who ‘turned a blind eye.
Apropos of absolutely nothing on the serious side of this argument, but will embarrassing photos be covered as part of the new regulations? Fat Bastard having left his vest home (look just above his left hand holding his notes)– I didn’t need to see that! Mind bleach, STAT!
http://nicholascohen.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/hackedoff-30.jpg
You all seem to have forgotten the genesis of all this. “One rogue reporter”? Looks more like a very worrying criminal conspiracy to me.
You should cast your minds back to when this story first surfaced and the frankly embarrassing silence from most media outlets until it could be ignored no longer. It shamed you all. Contrast that with coverage given by a certain news channel on the recent Mirror allegations – no prizes for guessing which one.
All my adult life – and I’m nearly 50 – our public discourse has been poisoned and manipulated by unelected (or rather make that unelectable) media proprietors who use their power and influence to further their own ends.
I’m a bit fed up with journalists thinking and acting like they are above the law. They are not.
Press freedom? I think not – we do not have a free press. But we are free to turn up at the polling station and remove the government of the day.
Yes, we are allowed to remove the middle class metro “liberal”/social “democratic”/culturally marxist government of the day, and replace it with a government whose social-political views are almost identical.
Excellent comments
And so obscenely hyporcritcal these latter day Citizen Kanes who spend their lives justly or unjustly attacking all and sundry
And when we attack them for their criminal activites
Thet scream like scalded virgins
Basta Guido and your ilk
And talking of MI5 – WTF have they been doing allowing this shit to be going on?
I’m fucked now – echelon.
The kinky boys would have been with this all the way. But with them it is all about oranges, shiny hats and triple x’s.
Think triple cross.
The Hidden Hidden Hidden hand of deception. Get Christian idiot fools to smear your detractors for you.
The only criminal conspiracy is what Common Purpose and the rest of the far-left agenda have been doing in Britain since the fall of the Soviet Union. An agenda of intimidation, bullying, subversion, language manipulation, undermining freedom and politicising every aspect of our lives.
I suspect you are part of that problem rather than the solution. But don’t continue under the delusion that power will eradicate dissidence. Every tyrant in history believed that and every one of them fell.
There are loads of other criminal conspiracies as well as that one you mention. You shold get out more.
There are some interesting details emerging in the MOS today about Lord St John Stevas. He of course was getting a rater nice bung (about £40,000 or more / year) as a non executive director at Sky back in 2003 … He was basically a toothless old bastard who was making up the numbers. There is more but too much for a simple posting such as this.
So let’s get this right, you read this in the Press today ?
Well I’m blowed my luvely !
I KNOW a damned lot more about it you fucking dumbass wurzel.
Guido does not “publish” in the UK
So he is not affected by all of this
Much ado about nothing Guido
Except for his cntribution to the defrocked Murdoch rag the Sun -the only nespaper where most of its senior staff have been a r r e s t e d and/or charged
On that score, perhaps a little mod3sty would be in order order…
Please do not change da law, init. they already took away my NOTW. i has been a dedicated sun reader for da passed 20 years and wear am i gonna get all me daily bonking footballer / bonking taylor swift / bonking one direction / bonking page 3 / bonking welfare scroungers / bonking housing benefits news if they change da law. stupid politicians.! init.
I see you are a dedicated follower of fashion Good on you
But I think you should replace all those bonking refernces with banking references to keep up with the Times
Where does that Lisa O’Carroll get the idea that Leveson’s a Tory? It’s a nailed-on certainty that he’s a Liebore voter, if not a paid-up party member.
As per the mail article above and general observations, can Blowing Whistles please shed some light on WTF Charl0tte Harr!s / M!shcon de Reya has got against the people of the UK, and the numerous clients she has screwed over in the past ?
A quick response is that ‘arris and her firm have been privy to lots of evidence. they MDeR only claim to act on behalf of ‘clients’ therefore their remit is to get bucks for their client – which they do of course. However ‘arris and the firm have become privy to lots of sensitive info – which many of their clients who get a pay-off fail to realise the higher implications of. MdeR – Are there multiple conflicts of interest / and what of due diligence checking & admissions – its all very murky?
BTW – Bircham Dyson Bell – failed to own up that they had taken the murdoch coin on many an occasion when they took up the Dr in the Woods case. far more murky things went on there.
Agreed and thank you.
There is obvious facade of sorts here. This particular lawyer, and her track record lately has not been looking good to the clients. As some others here would say, it almost seems ‘kinky’.
This is surprising for the silver circle, unless to your point the knowledge gained is more to get to the magic, but white or black ?
The pattern of recent public clients is what confuses as a fairly sinister wake has been left which suggests dark.
The Senior ptnrs and founders of MdeR will be where all the dirt lies. Follow the money?
The irony of someone posting behind a fake id insisting on the right to know about the sex life of a complete stranger simply because he made a handful of very bad films seems to be lost on most. This thread will be an excellent opportunity for everyone who believes and the complete and unrestricted flow of information to post their full bank details.
I look forward to not reading about your detention and death at the hands of state officials.
Ptthhh, we’re not that fucking stupid, thieving lefty git.
First they came for the writers of salacious stories, and I did not speak out—
because I did not read the salacious stories.
Then they came for the rumour-mongers, and I did not speak out—
because I never listened to rumours
Then they came for the for the journos who write stories about Z-listers, and I did not speak out—
because Z-listers bore me.
Then they came for the people who blow whistles on bent politicians, and then I started to be interested.
Then they came for those who had started to be interested—
and there was no-one there to speak out for me.
When are they going to come for the tedious drama queens who abuse the Niemoller meme?
The day after they have come for you.
So which part of the tedious drama queen’s verse do you actually disagree with?
Well the idea that there is anyone who would have been remotely interested in speaking up for him in the first place for one.
Said the epitome of Norman Nomates.
Well that’s where we differ Jimmy, because I would speak for everybody- including you.
Well that’s me fucked then.
hehe, Jimmy said fucked….
Jimmy, you’ve been fucked since you failed to grow out of your teenage naive and blinkered socialism.
A political cartoonist in Australia used that mangled wording in reverse about Pal.e.stians a few months ago – He was set upon by the Loons. For cartoon ffs.
btw – journo’s don’t really see the bigger picture – they’re too thick and up their own jacksies to even think about where their cravenness is leading to.
No need.
The EU can take what it likes, when it likes, directly from your bank.
Even the BBC have caught on to this story. Have a look on the worlds most expensive website Jimmy. There’s even a smattering of information.
If you want the real details though, go to zero hedge, real capitalists, alphaville or any of the well known, informed, unregulated financial blogs
I hate to break this to you, but governments have had the power to take money off you for quite some time.
“from you”
Think about it like democracy. A great idea that works well in many countries, but not right for all countries. Some countries just seem to backwards and primitive to have democracy work for them.
It’s the same with a free press, we have it in Britain and what is it used for? Slander, stirring a lynch mob, dumbing down the population, promoting trash, humiliating people for other peoples twisted amusement and gloating at other people’s misfortune. Well, that’s 90%+ of it anyway. Britain no longer deserves to have a free press after what they have done with it.
I never thought I’d say that but there you go, time to regulate the media firmly now.
Hyperbole. And who do YOU really represent? WHO are you commenting for?
I represent me. Those are my views. I like the idea of a free press in principle, in practice however (in this country at least) it’s just disgusting. I say regulate them now.
You obviously fail to recognise that it will be the bent politicians of government and their co-conspirators in all manner of crimes who will control the regulations then. Thus they will ban any dirt on them being exposed – there lies the road to Communism.
Totalitarianism / Tyranny and possible Dictatorship first, before Communism.
Would have the UK pegged more for National Socialism with a quasi Imperialist twist to be honest. The English are too bourgeoisie to do Communism.
You mention “the road to Communism”, and by this reference I assume you to deliberately parallel this to Hayek’s famous polemic “The Road to Serfdom”. The deliberate scaremongering against the benefits of the regulation of rampant capitalism.
What you have to bear in mind is that Hayek was a free-market anarchist (an anti-statist), and a “loon” in your parlence.
You will find that nearly all of the loons are free-market anarchy protaganists. Why might that be? They were all for the deregulation of the City, look where that has brought us.
The economic anarchists would like nothing more than the free reign to attack the very governance (i.e. the Government) in order for their kind to make profits at the expense of everyone else.
JJ – I have laid out this point previously – I … given the choice would choose capitaism over communism – with the “proviso” that we have proper ‘checks and balances’ [which we do not have at present -'regufuckinglation'] in law against those atop the corporations / banks for their excessive profiteering etc.
I simply don’t believe you. The word “disgusting” gives you away. That is currently the Labour party’s buzz word for anything they disagree with.
Hugh, is that you? Would you like me to suck your dick?
Of course. As long as it leaks into your mouth and not into the newspapers.
If what you say is true then at least 10% of it is worthwhile. that, for me makes it worth putting up with the other 90% for.
Translation: Only nice people with nice educations and nice middle class parents who worked in the public sector and vote Labour should be allowed to produce and buy newspapers.
The nasty little people who do menial work and talk roughly and buy the Sun and look at the poor exploited girls breasts should not be able to buy what they want. All those nasty papers should be shut down like NOTW was (hurrah!), especially now they do not support Labour. It’s unacceptable.
No one should be hounded by newspapers unless it suits the Labour Party. The fact that the papers we do approve of are losing spectacular sums of money escapes us, it does not make us feel all nice when we think about it.
Progressive media letterbox license for every household NOW!
*Innocent fucking grin.*
Guido’s warning? What? A warning from someone who take a shilling from er, oh guess who….
Right – we’d better all pay attention then as his master speaks.
guido is at least honest in that he takes the Murdoch shilling unlike hacked off who do not declare their donors
Under the next Labour government, these concerns will be academic, as we will abolish the press and have one state sanctioned paper, and we will abolish all broadcasters except the BBC. Welcome to Labour Britain. All is well. All is good. You are happy. You are calm. All is well.
So long as you provide free housing, flat screen tv’s and fridges and benefits you will win, but all that takes tax money from the workers, if there’s no work then no jobs then even more will need benefits, hope your money tree lasts, even money trees can die of over use.
I support this charter because blogs keep saying nasty things about me. Every time a blog says something horrible about me, I throw a Nokia at a woman. I don’t like women. If you want to stop me bullying women, stop saying bad things about me.
Coulnt agree with you more!.Bang on.
Do any of you have any clue about how to actually obtain a front page apology or even a fine. Firstly you have to get past the legions of duplicitous legal sharks and shysters … if you’re lucky to get past hurdle one – you’ve also got to get past the courts 101 wigmen ‘n wigwomen who are invariable controlled also.
The 4 pilla.rs of the st.ate are rotten & corrupted from the top down.
Some of us are just biding our time. The corruption is all recorded.
LOL, he likes twisting the knife doesn’t he (or too thick to realize?).
Probably the later.
- Could spell Tory defeat ?
Wasn’t Saint Patrick English.
302: Welsh, maybe Scots: not many English around in his time, and they weren’t Christian. Place has gone right downhill since, mind.
Does Jones have an economics degree or any experience beyond a debating chamber with his posh Oxbridge chums?
No? Then why does LBC think any listeners have the slightest interest in anything he says.
It will be the boringly predictable outpouring of leftie student bollocks about Tory cuts,austerity,nasty party,welfare cuts,bedroom tax,with no relevance to the real world we live in.
Remind me, did he wish the English Happy St George’s Day?
Publish and be damned!
I think the popular expression now is; damned publishers.
Murdoch – Not bloody likely if I can use the info to bend, persuade, leverage … whatever the fooker in question to push and promote my moneymaking scams.
p.s. Murdoch – Look at how well I did with Pressclot until them D Mailers outed the story….
I find it unbelievable that the Left want to imprison people for saying what they think.
Are we taking on the laws of China and North Korea?
It’s not unbelievable — it’s normal — I warned you all.
Peter Preston is on now and is talking sense… according what most people on here are commenting on. Not all of the left are arseholes about the subject. He is NOT wanting state control. He also points out that a lot of the people currently shouting loudest would not have been assisted by a state regulated press at all.
You said it chum, it’s all lies based on the basic lie that they just want to help.
It’s called the Emma West treatment. And you can expect a hell of a lot more of it.
Loads of politicians are also so called journalists, let them carry on being politicians and stop employing them even when they stop being journalists, get your own back time, if your a newspaper and politicians who are journalist are threatening your business, no doubt the will be on temp contracts dump them, it requires people to uphold the laws and people to catch the naughty ones, as this country has loads of laws and no proper police force to enforce them except ones who are good at giving speeding tickets then a load more laws mean nothing, don’t worry Camoron 2015 is not too far away.
No, no. It was my genius alone which ensured that we didn’t adopt the euro.
Fuck off, Fatso. It was my ‘Five Economic Tests’ which prevented Tony B£iar rushing to switch the Pound into the euro.
In actual fact….
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/781061.stm
In the days before Maude joined the cult of Common Purpose and went mental.
‘Lord Brittan, of the Conservative Group for Europe, said Mr Hague’s stance ( of keeping the Pound) risked dividing the party.’
A man you can trust.
How many of your employees are going to jail chum?
And how many hundreds of millions have yiu spent tryint to cover up your criminal activities?
About time you showed a little modesty after all yiu have done
And when will you admit that you were aware of all of this long before you lied to the House of Commons Committee.?
Oh do fuck off Murdoch
You contributed to inflicting Blair and the Great Ponzi Scheme on the UK
And the illegal war
And the appalling Cameron
Your judgement has been a disaster
Not to mention the generalsed criminality in yiur nwspapers
You disgusting invertebrate liar. More like while you filled your boots with the dosh attempted to take total control over the media / put your placemen & puppets into Ofcom … killed off ITV Digital by all means criminal and foul etc
You fucking two-faced bastard.
Your memory has improved markedly since the Lord L Questioning, Rupee boy. But can you remember Tienanperson Square yet? Even the Leftie Beeb covered that in Asia but it would be quite a scoop for Star network
Isn’t the bigger issue coming up this week the Justice b!ll, and attempt to institute secret courts in the UK ?
In camera courts have no place in free and open democracies.
That was last monday.
Owen Jones describes the Mideast equivalent of a professional wrestling cage match: Hezbollah squaring off against Jabhat al-Nusra. To Hezbollah’s displeasure, the Al-Qaida-linked rebels have taken over a few Syrian villages along the border:
Few in the West may want to shed a tear over a full-scale confrontation between Hezbollah and al-Nusra. “Sure one could say this is the equivalent of the movie Alien vs. Predator and we should be sitting back and munching on a bag of popcorn,” says Jonathan Schanzer, a scholar in Middle Eastern studies and vice president of research at the Washington D.C.-based think tank Foundation for Defense of Democracies. “But we are looking at a fierce war that has left 70,000 people dead and more than a million as refugees and this isn’t going to make things any better; in fact, it will make things worse.”
How could things get worse? Jabhat al-Nusra takes the fight to Lebanon. Pass the popcorn anyway . .
So that you should all know
Those “few villages along the border” are major maruana growing areas
Sobig bucks and manynights of sweet dreams and virgins in play…
Owen Jones is probably upset that he can’t blame it on Israel or the US.
Now we know why you can (could) get 5% in a cypriot bank.
I have no sympathy for the McCann’s if they hadn’t left their children alone and deserted by them it would not have happened, and yet I’ve never heard them say ‘It’s our entire fault. We were to blame and we cannot live with our guilt and we were such pathetic, greedy careless parents’. True good parents would never have been able to live with their guilt and humility would have stopped them ever daring to comment for the press who rightfully criticised or blamed them.
if the McCanns had been some wayne and waynetta types in magaluf, you can bet the press would have crucified them by now.
The McCanns have had an easy ride and in fact as far as I am aware no child has been abducted when sleeping in the same room as other children, so its very strange.
Being professional people the McCanns have been treated quite gently
I agree , however I question their ability to be ‘professional people’ Perhaps some of the problems with NHS is the wrongl choice of people who are suitable to do their jobs.
I think they were sedated.
“Being professional people the McCanns have been treated quite gently”
NO. They will silence anyone. The only matter is who you know.
Could they perhaps have threatened to blow the whistle on some aspect of the euthanasia which was going on in the NHS at the time ?
Maddies daddy – is well connected to a Labour Lord in the HOC. Well Connected.
Its a difficult one. They obviously have a lot to regret, but I recall a time when children were usually considered safe. I used to walk myself to kindergarten.
are you sure you’ve spelled “walk” correctly?
LATEST:
Culture Secretary Maria Miller says she hopes the three parties can get closer to a “no confidence” vote in Prime Minister David Cameron in the next 24 hours.
This whole vote – needs adjourning – “In The Public Interest”, “The National Interest”. There seems to be some rush to judgment …
The hidden hand of the national socialist.
Up the revolution!
One sees how she became deputy leader; nobody could stay awake long enough to vote against her.
Is there sn e-petition anywhere to force the Illiberal democrats to drop t
he “Liberal” from their name because they are patently not liberal.
Vote UKIP.
You reckon there will be any more elections in future?
We just had one in Eastleigh about you EU fookers and you better be afraid.
They still have a green light at the moment:
Could vote out of the euro tomorrow. Wonder what the color will be by Wednesday in any case…
And to add to the fun:
Revise above Wednesday, to next Thursday.
You cannot escape from ze euro. Hahahahahaha !!
EURJPY @ 121.87, down 2.5% from close Friday (~124).
EURUSD @ 1.2937, down 0.52%
EURGBP @ 0.8543, down 0.92%
Gold: 1oz = EUR 1230.83 , up 0.65%
Methinks massive selloff will continue, VIX should be interesting tomorrow.
Euro should get a thorough kicking next week.
It’s ALL OVER RUMPEY – “It is OVER!”. Your and every other unelected and elected mongrel in the EU behemoth are going to have your money and future pesnions taken from you – You’re out on youe ears ‘n rses – you UNACCOUNTABLE low-life misguided pitiful commie Jean Monet loons.
There are quite a lot of people who have deposits in Cyprus who I would not mess with. I wonder if the enormity of being on a Russian mafia hit list will sink in and cause a rethink.
that’s why the haircut so the EU is not bailing out the Russian mafia. I hope van rompy checks his tea in future for radioactive substances
The mafia cover is likely just a small part of the picture, if truth is told.
If there is money there as a result of money laundering etc. then there would be evidence to back that claim up and steps can be taken to prosecute.
Similar arguments have been used before in the Balkan’s and it is easy propaganda to make claim that Russian money is proceed of crime irrespective of truth.
This is more an inducement to encourage Russia out of Cyprus and it is connected with geopolitical aspirations to contain Russia to the Black Sea and keep them out of the East Med. For their part, Russia does not want the East Med oil and gas produced.
EU Watch – as we agreed yesterday – the EU is all but proven to be finished by its open transparent and democratic “Audited Accounts” – or not as my lateral thinking inference implies.
The Federalist think tanks were first to point this out analytically.
But they are still trying. The New Treaty of Benelux last year has been off the mainstream radar:
http://www.europeanfederalistpapers.eu/index.php/en/papers/published-papers/51-nr-13-jadoul-october-2012
This is being touted as a model for creating Federal state compatible with treaties of Lisbon / Rome, and in spite of what some consider a systemic error in the 1950 Schuman plan of handing over decision making power to the member states.
Benelux has a longer history, but the way the foundations of the post war Europe model are now regarded speaks volumes about the ideological shift that has taken place.
This absolutely demands referendum, as what is being actioned now certainly was not what the UK joined.
Not clear why they are stealing money from European depositors. Do they just hate the rest of Europe in Cyprus?
Single market. Absolute proof that it does not exist. I wish I could stop my business transactions at present. What happens if they are in the wrong bank at the wrong time.
Polonium tea may be the least of his problems.
Next winter could be a bit chilly if the gas gets cut off.
It is spelt ‘colour’
Fuck off. I’ll spell it any way I like.
And it’s “spelled,” unless you’re talking about wheat.
Do piss off old bean, there’s a good little chappy.
Murderer !
Guido may publish outside the UK but what about. Comment entered onto the site from within the UK?
I hope Harman dies of something nasty and painful. There’s a special place reserved for her in hell so we will always know where to find her.
I agree with my new friend Guido
And of course my other new friend Rupert
The only problem is that Rupert changes the horses he backs as often as his jounalists hack
Ireland’s national drink: Guinness. Scotland’s national drink: whisky. Pint of Guinness v Pint of Whisky. NO CONTEST.
Insanity doesn’t run in my family… it loiters.
Not long for “Keep Calm and Withdraw Your Money” t-shirts to appear…
Wonder what chances Cameron now has? There is an article on the Comment section written by Norman Fowler, telling Tory MP to vote against their own party tomorrow.
Reading Guido Fawkes’s coverage of the EU Cyprus bank raid. Remarkable how much of it says “nothing to see here, no problem, move on now”.
“So to all those in the progressive blogosphere who support regulating the freedom of the press, Guido poses this simple question: will you defy the new regulator or submit to that system of state control you support?”
Bloggers are just another irrelevance, mate. Not enough people read you for you to call yourselves important.
Political blogging reached the absolute height of it’s potential about three years ago; It is not without reason that this blog has branched out to the Dead Tree Press that you, SO, said was dead. Phnaaar.
Who reads this crap, ffs? MI5, The Press, the unemployable, the ad*ertisers, a couple of crooked MPs?
By my reckoning, that leaves 78 million people, in this country alone, that a) have never heard of Guido Fawkes and b) would spit in your face if you ever showed up on their doorsteps.
You hanging on the coattails of The Sun is the funniest thing I’ve seen on the internet since Fenton ran amok.
Two minutes of Fenton was more life-enhancing than five years of this bollocks.
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Someone’s big time worried then – why if their statement holds any water do they bother to post it?
At last – the leftist’s holy grail is within reach – regulation of the … i n t e r n e t … what a marxist prize !
Anyone who was daft enough to imagine Christine La Garde was a competent economist was daft, and blind to her abysmal showing when she was in power in France. She’s a piece of work, and has surrounded herself with dunderheads.
The reason this vile action has been taken on Cyprus – to begin with – is because Cyprus is small, and thus qualifies as a laboratory. It’s a try-out, as everyone who is angry about it is aware. Goal-post moving on the small pitch, to refine the mechanisms for more of the same more universally.
Horrible to think the UK has a cretin chancellor who is – or thinks he is – her buddy. She should have stuck with synchronised swimming.
The words “competent economist” – give it all away – A life time dupe into the false flag ponzi scamming of economics.
When governments begin to take private money direct from private citizens bank accounts without the account holders permission it’s time to spend your savings on a gun.
Bank accounts are for wankers
I wish the banks would desist from clogging up the television schedules with their flowery advertisements, dear.
I was under the impression they were tight for money.
Elsie – how much do you think the banks bung the msm every year for adverpropagandaenticements?
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Says it all.
Tosseur.
It’s Steve. He’s an inferiority-complex, personified.
Excellent splurging of commas in your moniker, Abg-ct-etIcSfn!
His MO is to say as little as possible using as many words in the given time. See 287 as an example.
You talking about me?
I don’t believe even the National Socialists got round to this in territories they conquered. You’ve got to admire the EU for thinking outside the box.
The novelist Mohsin Hamid is very interesting in today’s Sunday Times on how London no longer belongs to the UK – instead of Pakistan becoming more like the West as we liked to assume was going to happen, the West is becoming Pakistan, a huge and unprecedented disparity between the rich and the people, corruption everywhere, some societies where citizens are still willing to pay tax, other societies which do not see the need.
PLEASE hand me control of the Treasury !
IfWhen I am Chancellor, we will have a Mansion Tax and a 10% tax on your savings.I can’t wait !!!
I have no recollection of being told that.
David Cameron has shown himself to be a charlatan in siding with the press barons for cheap political gain rather than deliver some form of statutory underpinning of the Royal Charter that commands the confidence of the public and those who have experienced the worst excesses of the gutter press. Is it not disingenuous of him to go back on his word in order to engineer a position that if he loses the vote tomorrow he can say to the conservative press, It wasn’t me guv. I did my best for you and if he wins, look how good I am.
Bollocks
You’re right. Cameron isn’t that intelligent.
The press have always hidden behind their rights to freedom, but you try and inform the public about what is happening to our NHS, they won’t print it, unless it carries the Tory Party line.
They will not print anything about the cover-up of avoidable deaths. That is why they go after celebrities. The real news is not required by their readers.
We should have inverse-censorship. Where the press are judged to be wrong, and fined, if they cover up a story. If the death and injuries could have been avoided by publicity then they should be punished. It is like having a Police force that ignores criminals, or judges that strike out cases for their own gain. Oh, but then we do.
The Staffordshire NHS deaths occurred during Labour’s reign.
Get your facts straight.
These pathetic political compromises will not satisfy the public. They want, and will get, full justice and punishment of the lousy lot who made so many suffer. This MUST include a severe cut in press freedoms for at least a decade. Statutory controls with immediate jail sentences for those who flout the law. £1 million fines are peanuts to people like Dacre or Murdoch. These people have to learn that they cannot act in a totally evil manner and then if caught, assume we will all behave like civilized people, shake hands, and carry on as if nothing has happened. Any future relaxation of press curtailment must be earned by good behaviour. Only in this way can the bad owners and bad journalists who obey them, be cut out of the industry, and the politicians who have protected these people be denied the fruits of their corruption.
WE WANT MAJOR SURGERY WITH LOTS OF BLOOD BY THE BUCKET
Fancy a blow job Hugh?
Hugh Grant can f*ck off. Then, when he’s f*cked off, he can f*ck off out of wherever he’s f*cked off to. Then the conceited, whoremongering bag of sh*t can keep on f*cking off until he’s f*cked off out of our lives completely, but even then he can carry on f*cking off until he disappears up his own sorry *rsehole.
If somebody took a short position in Euro, and then started a rumor on social media that the delay in Cyprus resolution is due to late delivery of new Cypriot Pound currency from de la Rue, one could make a killing.
Just sayin’
You find yourself standing alone at the bar, then.
Ex-bankers/accountants/money-minded people are inherently dull and, more than likely, slightly autistic, dear.
Slightly autistic yes, but money is never boring darling.
1 Cypriot Pound = 5 Pound Sterling.
I think I could sort out the balance of payments in 6 months. Just legalize all drugs and lend me a couple of tridents for a bit ? actually if I could have a few ships and planes and wot not I think I could speed things up.
cheers mate
Oh, and 3 or 4 regiments and support, cheers
as I’m asking, have we got any neutron bombs I can borrow ?
I don’t know whether this has already been covered. Anyway Press regulation in Scotland is to be determined by MSPs voting on the subject in the Scottish Parliament. Press regulation in England and Wales should be decided by MPs from these two countries.
Any attempt by Scottish MPs to participate would be outrageous. If such a move were made it would be up to Tory MPs not to sit dumbly by but to firmly obstruct it.
Excellent point.
Hear, hear!
British sovereignty… DONE ☑
Social engineering… DONE ☑
Freedom of speech… DONE ☑
Freedom of the press… DONE ☑
Right, what’s next comrades?
Power to the People ie Us.
More immigration and postal votes!
order bigger floodgates for the EZ escapees.
Cut to the chase.
5 year plan ☐
Shortages ☐
Starvation ☐
Disappearances ☐
Death camps ☐
Societal collapse ☐
Come on, National Socialists! Shine on, you crazy diamonds – fight for Eric Hobsbawm’s vision, I’m sure it will only take a few million dead to reach the golden dawn this time!
Alternatively, just take out your self loathing and desire for the freedom of the grave on yourselves.
The Pope’s had a good day.
Just ’cause he didn’t mention the Malvinas doesn’t mean he’s not on the case.
Lets sing and laugh as we skip and dance our way to the sunny uplands.
Cyprus Mail op-ed: ‘rescue package’ designed to destroy the #Cyprus economy http://www.cyprus-mail.com/opinions/our-view-rescue-package-designed-destroy-economy/20130317 …
Yep he’s at his best after a couple of vino’s.
President of Cyprus addressed nation:
http://www.businessinsider.com/cyprus-bailout-anastasiades-speech-to-the-nation-2013-3
Essentially, Cyprus is in a blackmail position and he will respect the decision of the Parliament following their vote. Depositors will be given ‘equity’ in return, if they keep deposits for a further two years half the levy will be returned in securitized gas revenues.
Sounds like an awesome deal. Not.
And JP Morgan asking if Europe has just bazookaed itself in the foot:
Coming from the luminaries responsible for the London Whale Trade, interesting language.
Comimg from the bank that pays the con man Blair 5 million quid per year
Bailed out previously by the Fed in New York
What a load of crooks
“Don’t cry…we can still eat horse meat!”
LOL
Who gives a fuck about the press? As for the famous Telegraph story about MP Expenses it was in fact a lone woman openness (Heather Brooke) campaigner who was taking on Parliament when the SAME journalists were sucking the cocks of MP’s in the Strangers bar.
By the way, why is anyone keeping their money in a bank these days? I stopped doing that a long time ago, with interest rates so low (if you need to get to your cash quickly) you might just as well keep it in a box under your bed, at least the only thieves who can get at it will need a crowbar to get into your house and not just a few clicks on a keyboard.
I wonder what will be the position of the newsletters published by councillors, political party branches and MPs?
Doesn’t Robert Mugabe control the press in Zimbabwe?
The reason Liberal bloggers aren’t worried is that they don’t spew unsubstantiated hate like you do. The right wing is based on hate and fear. The left is based on truth.
That is just so funny. No hate and fear of the right wing then?
Ha ha ha!
That is truly hilarious or are you trying to be ironic.
LOL. You could not be further from the Truth. Since when were communists in favour of the truth and free speech? And what about the Fabians’ and their Eugenics?
Or that renowned national socialist Herr Hitler and his master race? FFS Jack Straw’s dad liked Hitler so much that he would not fight him.
Quite odd really, especially when you consider his dad was J*wish!
Probably he considered the odds of landing an inheritance
“The left is based on truth”
Spoken like a true Joe Stalin apparatchik.
You should have been here in Draper and Damian’s prime.
You talk of the threat to the freedom of speech…yet you ban the very mention of the J*ws on here in any context or reference.
How is that freedom of speech?
The fact that you believe this is the best argument against your ever being put in charge of anything. This whole thing is predicated on the juvenile “good guys vs bad guys” crap that turds like Hugh Grant and you spout. Why not fill your pockets with stones and wade slowly into the sea?
Born in 1978, Umunna is the son of a Nigerian father originally from Awka. He is of the Igbo ethnic group. His father, Bennett Umunna, was a businessman and a director of Crystal Palace FC and was killed in a road accident in Nigeria in 1992 while running for the governorship of Anambra State.[4] His lawyer mother, Patricia, is the daughter of the late High Court Judge Sir Helenus Milmo.[5] Umunna was educated at Hitherfield Primary School in Streatham, South London, at the voluntary aided Christ Church Primary School in Brixton Hill, and at the independent secondary school St Dunstan’s College in Catford.[6] As a child he was a chorister at Southwark Cathedral, and participated in singing the theme tune of the British comedy series Mr. Bean.[7] He graduated LLB in English and French Law at the University of Manchester and then studied for one term at the University of Burgundy in Dijon, before going on to study at Nottingham Law School for a Master of Arts degree.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuka_Umunna
One can see deep Irish roots there.
That bit about me going to a private secondary school, that’ll will get redacted once we can gag the Press, right ?
Fees in link below. Chuka’s accent was not cheap.
http://www.stdunstans.org.uk/Fees
chukka o` money is a toff
So – practiced in the duplicitous art of legal rhetoric evasion prevarication an delay. A Schmuck Shyster dupe in fact then.
Umunna and I are !rish blood brothers. We are going to drink a few shillelagh’s to that before tossing the shamrock. Honest guv.
Chuka is that your mobile phone ringing?
Chucka another Afryia on the barbie Neil.
Concerning the distressing report of the Swiss woman who gang raped in India. I am guessing that as they were cycling she was exposing leg without understanding that most of those guys are repressed stone age perverts and you do not want to be encouraging them in any way.
Shge just didn’t realise that Indians are capable of being total arseholes. They have a space programme you know. Guess who pays for it?
The Euro is a big link of shit
Dave lost his cool:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294623/Cameron-lost-temper-ambushed-Tory-candidate-defecting-UKIP.html
Vote UKIP !!!! – For a better future and to annoy Dave.
Bit of a minger though. Phwooooooaar !!
I think he would have been pretty cool with the regulation of the corrosive right wing (libertarian anarchistic) press…and I include the Grauniad in that category.
You must be a bit of a nutter. Hope you don’t cost much.
Concerning the Euro project in relation to the rest of the world. This whole thing wants reassessing. There was an idea I read somewhere where Europe sold itself as a playground for the rest of the world.
France is the restaurant
Britain is the Boutique
Ireland is the National Park
Germany is the factory
personally I think we need to tell them all to fuck off and strain every sinew to become self sufficient in food and power and to buckle down to working to a more technological future with protection of indigenous flaura and fauna
where are the lavss? I need a shit after eating too much german sausage
Typecasting and stereotypes are not going to help.
Sharing / pooling of resources makes perfect sense as it is more efficient for all countries to take reasonable advantage of each others strengths and resources.
This is partly why the common market was set up in the first place.
What is not needed, nor is it desirable, is a federal union system at this point in time.
If there is a need to solve that particular problem, of finding best political and fiscal solutions supra-nationally to avoid conflict, then a lightweight confederate system is best.
What is trying to fight its way onto the stage now is not desirable or in the interest of anyone.
Until there is a common consensus on fiscal policy, a monetary union is by definition unworkable. This should be reversed ASAP.
The economies of countries like Spa!n / !taly are fundamentally different to Germany / UK and will never fit into the same mold. That is not a criticism, but a very important aspect of Europe, and distinguishes Europe from the US.
Trying to coerce such changes will fail, and cause damage along the way. As has been shown thus far.
because of our unique history we have bent over backwards to invite and assimilate people from all over the place, overcome our inherent tribalism to become accepting of people from all other cultures and hygiene in our midst. People have taken this acceptance as softness and have taken with mirth all that it is possible to take. Our immediate neighbours , the Scots, the Welsh, the Irish and the French would love to see our downfall. I just think we should tell them to fuck off, sorry about that
what this country needs is a plan.
TIA
Bring smoking back into pubs and encourage people back into pubs.
Over a couple of pints and a bag or pork scratchings the necessary and workable plan could be drawn up within a few hours.
Next day people would be motivated to do it.
This is the tried a tested method.
I don’t condone Hugh Grant’s phone being hacked. That aside, he is by all accounts an unpleasant person. I’ve witnessed it myself. I was in a pub in South Kensington once and he was drinking with a friend. All fine and dandy until one of my friends naively decided to ask for his autograph. I advised her against it but she went for it. She approached him quietly and all she got out was “Mr Grant, can I” before he turned round, put his hand up and said “NO”. Now, it’s fair to say he doesn’t have to sign autographs for anyone, but there’s a way to do it that’s civilised and polite. Instead, he made her feel like shit. A lesson learned for her, and it merely confirmed what I’d always heard about him. And he’s a shit actor too.
This theft of money from savings accounts in Cyprus banks, is that what Red Ed meant when he invented the word ‘pre-distribution’ ?
In the UK it would be called: Negative Interest Rates.
Anyone notice that Owen Jones has been very quiet on the issue of workers money being taken from them by the EU ?
He probably doesn’t give a shit.
….or understand
It is interesting that those opposing change focus on Hugh Grant, the McCanns and the Dowlers. Very little is said about Chris Jefferies. I know several members of the Bristol plods and am aware of three things. Firstly, they felt they had no choice but to arrest Jefferies for questioning as he had been fingered by Tabak (in an attempt to shift the blame). Secondly, they had doubts about his involvement from the start if only because his short stature and small frame would have made it difficult for him to be the murderer. Thirdly, they warned journalists not to pursue the Jefferies link, even whilst they held him, because of their doubts (although they could not spell these out}. Despite all of this the press chose to try to destroy Jefferies.
If there is one case which spells out the need for some change (and I do not say what that should be) it is the case of Jefferies. An implausible suspect, with journos being warned off, sacrificed for a cheap headline.
A BBC camera crew harassed Jeffries and cased him down the street.
Don’t remember them apologising for their actions…
Irrelevant who was guilty (although both the Mirror and Sun were found guilty of contempt for their coverage).
Look back at the way the press hounds – maximised for profit the scandalous stories that they ran day after day week after week over the Peter Falconio murder. Joanne Lees – was torn to shreds by the worlds press pack of hounds – they knew the truth behind the issues but strung it all out to maximise their profits. That’s the sickening side of the Press – and it is all LED by Murdoch.
Scary! Leftwingers want to shut down freedom of the press. 1930′s Germany – Leftwing Nazism did that !!
A Cypriot man goes to his bank and walks up to the cashier’s desk…the cashier hands the man a piece of paper.
The man reads the piece of paper….it says “This is a robbery!”
Hahahahahaha !!
Hacked Off – Nazism
“relevant publisher” means a person (other than a broadcaster) who publishes in the United Kingdom: a. a newspaper or magazine containing news-related material, or b. a website containing news-related material (whether or not related to a newspaper or magazine)”
Define “News-related” material – this blog clearly states it is about – Plots, rumours and conspiracy….. so not news.
It looks like to get arounf this all you would need to do is stick “IMHO” at the end of everything and its instantly not “news” but your opinion.
Consider this scenario:
Guido will run a story, and he’ll say, as he often does, that he’s the only outlet carrying it, like with Pilgrims and that sort of thing.
Eventually the Daily Fishwrap and the Daily Budgie Cage Liner decide to report on whatever it is that Guido’s been banging on about.
Say they uncover criminality in something Guido seemingly apparently was wailing about only on an ideological/political basis, i.e., whoever tipped Guido off was holding out for the bigger payday to unload the choicest bits. Guido has to this point only provided the most general of details, those which are (A) not actionable as libel and (B) not enough for the perps to be prosecuted on, and he has looked for all the world like he’s only been whistling in the wind.
Has what Guido reported on previously, now retroactively become “news,” now that it’s “respectable” and in the DTP?
Can he get away with saying that, no, it ain’t news, it’s all just rumours, gossip and tittle-tattle till someone else fleshes it out with all the lurid gory details?
More to the point, will he face any legal challenges in future after something like this takes place, under any new regulatory scheme? “Give it up, Mr S-t-a-i-n-e-s, that part about ‘not being news’? That just won’t fly, after the ‘Robin Steele MP’ story you ran blew the lid off his activities!” (cf. that Wandsworth Cllr)
Cyprus and this EUSSR theft of other ordinary peoples cash via their savings,tells you all you need to know about these unelected commie barstewards.
That maoist Barrosovitch and his stooge Rumpy assisted by tin knickers of Germainia are showing their true colours.
However you crazy lot will not beat the markets who are on track of bringing down your dreams of another communist ideal,you should think about the success of communism,did it suceed no it did not,I do admit that there are other countries who think that communism will win including ours.
Think again,as you will be brought to heel in the not to distant future.
Freedom of the press another big issue,I think not,this is to do with people who are in the public eye wanting to hide their their failings from the general public.
The laws we already have in this land covers libel and you can take legal action against any libel against you.
When we get Libdumbs/Liabore proposing to get rid of press freedom by statute law then we should know what these two asshole parties are all about and it is state control of our lives.
Russia did this via PRAVDA did it work,well no it did not,also China is now sailing close to the wind with it’s people regarding freedom to criticise.
Well thats my pissed of post as to what goes on for today sweet dreams to all and I will now have my last drink before bed,hear from you later.
Timing impeccable.
Was announced some time back.
Support for Syria, but Cyprus / Greece will be a concern.
Primary: Control future production of East Med oil / gas : At this point get the message across loud and clear.
Now, Herman, that’s a directive.
And Herman, this is perhaps not smart:
But at least we now know what you are up to.
They have a few hours and then all hell will be let loose.
Gold has tagged on $11, above $1605 right now.
EURUSD < 1.30
EURJPY @ 122.35
EURCHF @ 1.2189
Looking forward to seeing what happens to the Bonds when market opens, in about 6 hours.
Europe is on the 5 hour time zone difference with US this week as their clocks have shifted.
And that was just the warm up with the non-permanent fleet.
Someone should open a book on how many subs are currently cruising around down there.
Would not be safe to going out fishing. Iffy internet outages perhaps should be anticipated.
Big week for government ahead.
This gagging / restricting the press or penalising all sections of the information media because of criminal acts by some members of the profession, [I use the term loosely] must appear to Farage as a gift from heaven.
Rules that were and still are enforcable were broken through police , politician and reporter collaboration, and now a rethink of the law is being suggested. While the voluntary regulated PCC failed, few are convinced that draconian measures are less of a benefit for the public and more for unscrupulous politicians and Z rated celebrity figures suffering embarressment.
Clegg after renaging on boundary changes that would balance previous Socialist gerymandering now works against his coalition partners again,[as other LibDems have been doing too] perhaps with a view to cementing a future Socialist partnership. The man is not to be trusted.
Miliband[wagon], is game for anything that clouds his party’s previous involvement in the crimes that brought the UK to its present dire straights and despite the hypocrisy is actually grateful for any past, present or future smokescreens that can be invoked under the cloak of caring. The man is not to be trusted.
Cameron, for all his bluster has almost lost the plot. Loathed to get to grips with anything concrete his indecisiveness will cost him dearly. Less devious than Clegg and Miliband he has not imposed himself in the Thatcher mode and will suffer accordingly. He can be trusted but unfortunately his demeanour exudes unbelievability. Even the acting ability of a Bliar will not help.
So, —- 3 political failures for UK stability either failing to unite or to improve the country as a clued up opposition: An EU falling apart through excess regulation that both deceives it’s own citizens and undermines the UK, just hanging on by it’s fingertips: A Tory party [ on its own] doing its best to balance an inherited economy so out of sync through previous bad leadership you are approaching the last straw before the back of the electorate gives up on all three.
A steamrollered decision on this question about the press and media foistered on the public will split assunder not only the Tories, but Socialist and LibDem voters with an inkling of genuine concern for Freedom and Liberty too, who will view UKIP and Nigel Farage as a risk well worth taking.
Rupe has already seen the light and is switching allegiance again. The public probably too.
Who can blame them?
Be careful what you wish for.
!taly may well be out of the euro sooner than you think with a Renz! / Gr!llo government:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-17/german-commerzbank-suggests-wealth-tax-italy-next
!talians still have bad memories of the 1992 grab by socialists, and that was only 0.6%
Commerzbank are suggesting 15%
If the Russians don’t play Ball then it could cost the Eurozone and its banks dear. Which IMHO is no bad thing in the long run.
There are three primary concerns for Russia.
i) US NMD being sited all along it’s border. It is becoming vexed as these installations are becoming more and more offensive than defensive.
ii) Access into and out of the Black Sea and maintaining a Naval base in the Med. (Currently Tartus is Syr!a is their only remaining one)
iii) Remaining main supplier of gas to Europe.
Russia is already a little vexed about the shipping of oil from Kurd!stan to Turkey, but can live with that for now. She is also a little vexed about Azerba!jan leaving the fold, and considering putting in NMD, with Georg!a also making such moves.
It is a good time for Russia to make a move.
The US is drawing down troops in Med / Gulf as it pivots towards As!a. The political will of the US people does not appear to be in favor of further confrontation at present either. Nationally they appear to have combat fatigue.
Russ!a has to fill some of this power vacuum to protect shipping from piracy, but will also take advantage of extend its sphere of influence. In particular they want to prevent further NMD deployments along its southern border out to Ch!na. Ch!na has similar concerns with its southern neighbors.
Also worth noting that Russia is trying to get a foothold in North Afr!ca. They have been in talks with Alger!a prior to the attack on the A!n A|emas plant earlier this year, and still are.
Russia has a lot at stake on controlling supply of gas to Western Europe, and preferably becoming primary supplier.
Step 1: Get as many of the public as possible to be dependent on the state
Step 2: Weaken democracy by massive importation of 3rd world immigrants
Step 3: Control the press
Step 4: Scrap the jury system
It’s alll going well so far.
So why is Osborne getting the UK taxpayer to compensate our troops and not the Eurozone?
Osborne is effectively bailing out the Eurozone (again) with British Taxpayer money.
Why is Osborne protecting his mates and selling the rest of the British public down the river
I could use the £20 billion I piss down the EU toilet every year to help British people in Cyprus, or I could just give my beloved EU £20 billion of your money every year and let it financially rape you sodding little plebs!
Gufff- haw haw haw haw haw haw haw hawwwww!
Remember, plebs; keep your money in the bank, so when the shit hits the fan, my beloved wonderful EU can financially rape you too! This is the best thing to do. On no account withdraw your cash, buy góld and keep it buried in the back garden. Oh, ya?
Toodle pip!
I could use the £20 billion I píss down the EU toilet every year to help British people in Cyprús, or I could just give my beloved EU £20 billion of your money every year and let it financially rápe you sodding little plebs!
Gufff- haw haw haw haw haw haw hawwwww!
Remember, plebs; keep your money in the bank, so when the shit hits the fan, my beloved wonderful EU can financially rápe you too! This is the best thing to do. On no account withdraw your cash, buy góld and keep it buried in the back garden. Ok, ya?
Toodle pip!
Why do we have 3000 troops in Cyprus in the first place?
They like the bars
And the women.
I like hittin’ bars and smashin’ the women…hic!
I take it that you did not study geography or history at school.
Schools must not produce winners.
Actually anyone with a bit of nounce can easily succeed in Britain by doing the opposite to the lefties ie learn, work and try and try again until you succeed while the soap dodgers mumble and grumble into their hair shirts
You missed out UN duties, don’t try and walk across the zone in Nicosia they shout at you, I think in Famagusta they politely tell you, you have gone a bit too far, so please return the way you came
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Operation TOSCA. UN peace keeping duties making sure the north (Turkish) and south (Greek) do not have a civil war.
Worth reading up on the history – Google is your friend.
I could do with some alchoholic regulation…hic!
The whole hacking saga was played up by the BBC who reported on it day after day after day. If you look at the actual real issues we have very little other than some illegal activity by some journalists that should have known better and a highly corrupt police force, something that got far worse under 13 years of Liebore.
Had the Tories sorted out the BBC on day 1 by putting someone like Tebbit in charge instead of fat Pang the Tories would have probably had an easier ride.
Every single thing they’ve attempted to do to try to sort out the mess the one eyed queer from Fife fucked up has been resisted by the BBC, they’ve lied, distorted and failed to report on stories that don’t fit with their lefty political view of the world
It’s quite likely that the Tories will never ever be able to form a majority government again, you can bet that Liebore or Liebore/Limp Dums will make sure that the flood gates of immigrants will be opened once again and that the public sector will once again be boosted to lock in millions of voters.
The Tories should have got rid of the BBC, got rid of Scotland and offered a referendum on getting out of the EU, they would have had more chance of winning outright.
Note England generally votes Tory but due to the biased voting system we end up with far too many celts in Parliament, something the Tories failed to deal with.
I can see the Tories being out of power for 50 years or more after 2015.
1. Get rid of Cameron
2. Alliance with UKIP
3. Stop postal voting
If not, you’re right.
How many people are still laughing at the likes of David Ike and others, who have pounded out the message for a long time that governments would go to war with the people? Well, they were right. And it’s started. The attacks on freedom of speech, robbing people’s bank accounts, raiding pension funds, the lies, the cons…..it’s all been told to us in the past, as warnings; and people have just sniggered and giggled.
This wont end until we are completely gagged and have had everything stolen from us. The good news is, we can do something about it, but ONLY if we get on with it NOW and stop pissing around pretending that it’ll all go away when we take our heads out the sandpit.
Once the blogs and other Internet areas come under tight regulation, you can forget about finding truthful news, unless you can access the usual websites where better reporting is available. Don’t be surprised if you switch the computer on one morning and find some bastard has put up a Pay Portal on your screen….allowing you to access only what THEY want you to see.
It’ll be like living in China….
It was OK up until the last line…
The Western liberal domocracies are crying out for proper leadership and governance in these times of crisis which the anti-statist libertarians abhor. Liberal democracies demand economic anarchy (anarchy means no rules, no regulation).
Capitalism -> Anarchy
Socialism -> Regulation
Christianity (de fact Catholicism) -> Pro family -> Regulation to protect the family
Secularism -> Anti family -> Libertariansim -> Pro arse-banditism -> Deregulation
Deep down, the West is extremely envious of China’s spectacular growth.
You should get out more. China is great.
You are confusing libertarianism with liberalism in your above chain.
Libertarianism, liberalism, free-market economic anarchism, neoliberalism, neoconservatism, tea-partyism or whatever they will call themselves tomorrowism.
At the end of the day, they are right-wing, anti-statist economic anarchists that are the useful idiots for the loons.
Why can’t the people see it?
This group have been playing us for fools for hundreds of years, if not for millenia.
The real battle is between tyranny and liberty.
These concepts are mutually exclusive, and history oscillates between them as public opinion becomes polarized. The center ground is the most unstable point, which is the most awful aspect of Blairs third way.
The work of Blair was to push the people out of the equilibrium of liberty, so as they could descend into a new equilibrium of tyranny. The transition back will be more bloody than what has been experienced, as history testifies.
Doesn’t time fly? A few hours sleep and it will be Rich without his Mark time.
Boycott Workfare Week of Action starts tomorrow! http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?p=1996
I’ve been voting conservative for 100 years but no longer. I may be a bit of loser, an attention seeking cock and a bore but the internet doesn’t care. I’m voting UKIP. I don’t care if Labour win. I don’t have any money anyway.
Got to hand it to Frau Merkel. Seizing 10% of a foreign nation’s wealth to prime your own banks without firing a single shot is pretty cute.
There won’t be any German who goes on holiday who won’t have spit in their lunch this summer
HAHAHAHAHA !!
Freedom is worth fighting for, you lefty arse-bandit.
Check your history.
There’s no money left.
I’m full
Hi !
With interest rates so low, there is no incentive for people not to withdraw their cash from the banks here in the UK, especially now the EU has decided to start stealing from peoples’ accounts.
What they have done to the savers of Cyprus is incredibly stupid. There is now a real chance of a run on the banks of Europe and the only way to stop it will be to close the banks.
Is it just savings accounts that will be robbed or will current accounts also be plundered? But what about the economic knock ons when people lose their deposit for a house, car, extension, holiday etc?
I also believe it can be taken as read that the UK government was in on the loop and gave tacit approval.
All accounts to be hit.
Junior bond holders 100% haircut.
Interest subject to 20-25% on top of the tax on capital.
Note: In normal state of affairs with lending, depositors rank at the top with senior creditors. That means, this capital is second to last to be touched in this way.
It is important for everyone to note:
WHEN YOU DEPOSIT MONEY IN A BANK YOU ARE LENDING TO THE BANK.
I agree. Osborne and Cameron look as if they are implicated in this act of theft.
I expect a lot of savings being moved around tomorrow, much of them to eventually disappear off the rada altogether.
With all the fun and games this weekend, and the inevitable carnage that may hit the markets next weekend, how many seats has this swung towards UKIP in the upcoming local council elections.
Word on Social Media appears to be looking like this at present:
Going to be an interesting budget for our boy G!deon as well.
Could Dave be out by end of this week ?
No
Don’t forget that Wednesday 20th March is ALSO – 10 years to the day that the !raq war started – on the false premise of a falsity promoted by the most reviled man who has ever taken the post of PM. And where were the oh so intelligent on the opposite benches – They were counting their shekels while the red creeps just walked right on past them. So sad but so true.
I wonder if it has occurred to our MPs that the best course of action over Leveson is to do nothing and enforce current laws?
Yes. But they are not interested.
Huge Rant on Sky accusing Cameron of ‘sucking up’ to the media barons.
What was Divine ‘sucking up’ you washed up scumbag?
Here’s a question: given that Osborne and Cameron must have been aware of the discussions to bail out Cyprus and must have been aware that there were plans to steal this money from the British depositors, why did they do nothing to warn their own fellow citizens to get their money out of the Cypriot banks?
Officially, the UK probably had no knowledge of the bail-out deal as it does not have a seat on the euro-group:
http://www.eurozone.europa.eu/eurogroup/members/
They could not issue a warning in any case as that would have let the cat out of the bag and triggered a bank run last Friday.
One would suspect that the UK was kept very much out of the loop on this deal.
Jeroen René Victor Anton Dijsselbloem, the Dutch finance minister (and member of the Dutch Labour Party) who is an all-round Hunt and president of the Euro Group, has said:
“As it is a contribution to the financial stability of Cyprus, it seems just to ask a contribution of all deposit holders.”
Cor blimey! “Contribution,” ‘e calls it!
Bruvva Ron and me woulda nevva ‘ad the cheek to call wot we wuz doin’, askin’ for a “contribution”! Wiff us, it woz a business proposition all the way! I’ll tell you wot’s “just,” in this wheeze– this is “just” plain and simple robbery, innit?
Question to Hugh Grant:
Q: What do you want to do when your acting career is over?
A: To be able to blame someone
With Russian warships heading into the East Med, this could be an offer too good to refuse:
Of course, it means signing over gas / oil exploration rights to Gazpr0m.
Check my analysis in previous posts, speculative when written, thankfully confirmed. Boaz
Cyprus could revert to Cypriot pound when producing. They have no need for Euro. If they decide to reject EU bailout and go with Gazprom or possibly another better offer, then they have no need for Euro. Cyprus aims to be exporting LNG by 2018 to Europe.
Russia can provide security looking ahead, and would likely be light touch with involvement. Haggling points at present most likely over future pricing.
This should not be acceptable, but the real question is, how long until Greece join them ?
Russia is the most credible force for managing competing interests of Turkey / Greece / Cyprus / Syr!a and Europe. It will also ensure !ranian pipelines run East, not West.
This of course puts a stop to Europe’s eastward expansion, decouples Euro from these hydrocarbon resources (which will kill the euro), ensures Russia has monopoly on European energy supply, and would give Russia de-facto control of Suez.
This may be acceptable to the US for now.
Perhaps it is also to the EU, which is why they are messing about with this bailout. The only other explanation is that they truly are useless.
Useless moneygrubbers.
Here comes the useless moneygrubbers.
so this is what we have come to in this scum invested coalion government country eh?
nevermind leveson lets just carry on down the road to fascism
http://blacktrianglecampaign.org/2013/03/18/anti-atos-activist-beth-tichbourne-outraged-at-criminal-conviction-for-yelling-at-david-cameron-cameron-has-blood-on-his-hands/
fucking tory c’unts fucking scum tory bastards
The Tichborne Claimant?
Fretting over an independent press
Is just a bit late in view of the mess
The LibLabCons have striven to create
In our used-to-be green and pleasant state
You don’t need tabloids to open your eyes
To the great betrayals behind their lies
A Royal Charter does not create anything Independent from Parliament.
Organisations formed under the Charter answer to the Privy Council…Lord President of the Council is Nick Clegg. Do you feel safer now?
The BBC is the best example of free and unbiased Press controlled by the Charter: Legendary for its “Unbiased opinion”, “Inclusive coverage of fringe views” and best of all, it has a culture all the way to the top that allows pedophiles and child abusers to operate in Plain sight.
Peachy I can’t wait for a fiddle.
“all the expense”
That’ll be the bit that worries Greedo.
Is anyone really surprised that the Liberal bed-wetter’s want more controls of the press in this country?
After all, you will find that this fascist dictatorship, the EU is behind this gagging of the British press.
I say to those people who agree with the Levenson recommendations on the press & media; pack your bags & leave the rest of us in peace & tranquillity, so we can live in a more democratic & free society, in Great Britain.
Polly Toynbee and many of her leftie rich socialist West Hampstead friends, are some of the most dangerous people living in this country.
Along with their Liberal leftie friends, this country is going to become a full-blown dictatorship, if these Euro fanatics; like Toynbee, Milliband, Clegg, the Guardian & Independent, ever get their way!!!!!
Demetrius Skortou
Is anyone really surprised that the Liberal bed-wetter’s want more controls of the press in this country?
After all, you will find that this fascist dictatorship, the EU is behind this gagging of the British press.
I say to those people who agree with the Levenson recommendations on the press & media; pack your bags & leave the rest of us in peace & tranquillity, so we can live in a more democratic & free society, in Great Britain.
Polly Toynbee and many of her leftie rich socialist West Hampstead friends, are some of the most dangerous people living in this country.
Along with their Liberal leftie friends, this country is going to become a full-blown dictatorship, if these Euro fanatics; like Toynbee, Milliband, Clegg, the Guardian & Independent, ever get their way!!!!!
Demetrius Skortou
Its a case of being careful what you wish for
How many times do you fuckers need to be told?
Vote UKIP ffs.
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