March 14th, 2013

Tom Watson: Your Sex Is on Fire


361 Comments

  1. 1
    Tom Fatson says:

    hooray

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    • 8
      Ah! Monika says:

      I see it was a black tie do!
      Somebody should have told him.

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    • 12
      Swinging voter says:

      Put it away Tom … it’s not a red nose.

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      • 21
        Tay King-dePisse says:

        He’ll have an actual red nose soon enough, if he keeps knocking back enough of those longneckers like the one he’s holding…

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        • 32
          V1le, vicious Labour ruined my Country says:

          If he gives up paying for his rentboys and takeaways for a week and gives that to charity it should be a tidy sum.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Naughty. Watson may (does) have many faults, but he is the only MP who has done anything to push the enquiries into child abuse. Making accusations like that sits rather badly from a supporter of a party (it doesn’t matter who you support – they are all implicated) with multiple names on the abuser lists.

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          • you must be 'avin a laugh says:

            am looking for link to guido faux comic relief page

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Watson is being vilified by his own (Labour) and the Tory Libs – because he called the shot on the still living utter bastard Murdoch and his omerta blackmail that the msm are a part of.

            He is not a rentboy user – but the 3 parties are desperate to smear him when they 3 are the guilty.

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          • Maq­boul says:

            So the 3 parties are rentboy users not he? How can you possibly know this stuff?

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    • 18
      CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

      OT But HIGH PRIORITY

      http://tomnelson.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/mr-foia-speaks-time-to-tie-up-loose.html

      The guy who probably saved the world’s economy releases more climategate emails.

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    • 23
      Tom Fatson says:

      Oi !!!!!

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    • 204
      CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

      Hope every man enjoyed their steak today….

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    • 337
      Hillary Benn says:

      FFS look at the twat.

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      • 352
        Hein Grosskopf says:

        Mr Watson is slightly less vocal when addressing the question of a mass murderer working for the NSPCC. He has been offered the irrefutable proof but won’t touch it. His credibility is up there with Lembit Opic.

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  2. 2
    Breaking News says:

    Pork DNA found in Hel al chicken sausages. Result!

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    • 25
      Ah! Monika says:

      It’s 2013 FFS. What did they expect? Chicken?

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    • 48
      Glyn H says:

      A chicken sausage? Yuck. And what the hell are local authorities doing serving halal meat. If cultists want cult food they should provide it themselves. This is England. We speak English and use English customs. If unacceptable – go elsewhere where cult practices are the norm.

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      • 51
        THE COALITIN IS DOOMED says:

        Not anymore

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          JH389893242139 says:

          It’s that attitude that has let the cultural Marxism hell bent on destroying our culture and identity get a foothold.

          It was relatively easy for them to do because our culture is so ubiquitous and is relaxed rather than the snippier, more aggressive tribalism common in lesser countries.

          The English have not spoken yet. There is nothing that cannot be undone.

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          • Tick, Tock says:

            The English had better speak soon, or it literally will be, too late to save the English from oblivion.

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    • 77
      Mickey Handlycock says:

      I’d put my pork sausage meat in anything

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      • 96
        THE COALITIN IS DOOMED says:

        Me too ” We eat Pork with everything in this country And if you don’t like it you can Fuck Off !

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  3. 3
    Sir William Wade says:

    Watson: “This beer tastes awful.”

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      Dr. Jethro-Holmes says:

      Alimentary, my dear Watson.

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    • 249
      Anonymous says:

      it s medicine.

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    • 272
      Blowing Whistles says:

      The msm are working in cahoots with all 3 parties and in cahoots with the judicials and in cahoots with the likes of Murdoch to further “lie, dupe and decieve” to the public about the truth and actualitae of FACTS.

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  4. 4
    Labour is off it's Ed says:

    What a gruesom trio. Is there ANY decent looking Labourites? Thought not!

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  5. 5

    There’s only one relief when he’s around and it ain’t comic.

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    mrsshitrit says:

    I was going to make a nice sausage tonight for dinner, but that has put me right off.

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    Google interracial gay oral and you get a cut down version of the above pic.

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    • 10
      JH873984792384 says:

      I’m sure there is a perfectly innocent explanation for you knowing that.

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      CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

      I do hope you’ve been sock-puppeted.

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      • 44

        It is my weird sense of humour AC1.

        If I could not laugh about it, I would cry in desperation.

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        Tat says:

        I think cock puppet is the relevant term when it comes Sc.

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          I’m not putting mine into a bag for anyone but especially not for you.

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          • Crackhead watch says:

            go and change your incontinence oants grandad

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          • I don’t have now, nor have I ever had, oants.

            I am prepared to make such statement under oath.

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          • Crackhead watch says:

            Oh I forgot, you like to smell of dried up piss don’t you grandad?

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          • How is the haruspex coming along?

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          • Crackhead watch says:

            When did you stop beating your meat?

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            SC you are just a sad deluded old git a dirty old git at that who expresses it so openly as to make you a rather pathetic and very sad old git. You harp on about history of hundreds of years ago – yet no one is actually interested. People are generally interested in the past 100 years essentially. what happened 300 to 1200 years ago is fucking irrelevant to what is happening in the here and now you pratt. You write so much of so much which has no relevance in the here and now – your like the fucking US Pratt Kenn D’Oudney – another fucking wanchor who tries to decieve.

            Fuck off and do the decent thing you old bastard – no you didn’t have the benefit of the net as a younger man but to – chide, goad and generally smear younger men who have brought the foibles and lies of our fathers & elders (of supposed knowledge) to the forefront is one sure thing of the sins of their fathers. Go and swill with your friends but you haven’t helped with the new knowledge and evidence that has come into the ‘light’ – you are living your sad old life in total and utter DENIAL YOU SAD OLD BASTARD.

            And by the way – I can state whatever I like about fucking Murdoch – I have a court order stating as much – AND YOU DO NOT. I gave you the clue where the order is at many months ago – Do your own fucking research wanchor.

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          • I don’t think I can add anything useful to your “statement”, BW.

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    Tom Twatson says:

    Just want to say sorry to the Mirror. The shit was only supposed to stick to Murdoch.

    I’ll have a word with our people in the BBC and make sure they are deafeningly quiet about it.

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  9. 13
    One Term Dave says:

    I will not allow people to spread leadership rumours behind my back!

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      Blowing Whistles says:

      Murdoch and his henchmen have the dirt on you Davy boy – thats what murdoch does – entrap and blackmail.

      Oh did I mention that Murdoch is just a je*ish front.

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      Blowing Whistles says:

      P.S. Did I mention that prick Neil Wallace on CH4 News banging on about Ofcom tonight; as if it was an honestly brought about organisation – only Murdoch had all the players elected to it entrapped in his pocket – into his ‘want’ and ‘WISH’ when Ofcom came into being … the evidence is out there AND I HAVE IT.

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  10. 15
    This site deletes posts says:

    Who gives a fuck?

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  11. 16
    I am not a charity for the stinking BBC. says:

    When is fat tub of lard going for a jog? He is so ugly he deserves a smack in the moosh. Jog on lardy arse!

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    Brown is a sad fuck says:

    Urrrgh. Minging!

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  13. 19
    hold them to ac says:

    A lady doesn’t wander all over the room and blow on some other guy’s mike. But it’s a safe labour event so anything goes.

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  14. 22
    Brown is a sad fuck says:

    The BBC is not getting a bean from me. Time wasting, scrounging arsewipes.

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      Anonymous says:

      Not all of them. BBC Worldwide have sold the Strictly format to 43 countries – thereby undermining decades of work by the British Council,

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  15. 24
    THE COALITIN IS DOOMED says:

    “You can donate to his Comic Relief page here…”
    How much would it cost to send a pound of dog shit through the post ?

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    • 27
      Ed Moribund says:

      Sunny Jim fixed it for me to be Prime Minister by setting a precedent that no matter how shit labour is , we can always be shitter.

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      • 34
        Anonymous says:

        Which is why he keeps Bollox as Shadow Chancellor – to remind the brothers and sisters that even if they think Ed is crap, it could be worse.

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          THE COALITIN IS DOOMED says:

          You can always blend the shit so it doesn’t smell as bad to some , by mixing in a few political prostitutes like the Lib dems
          Clegg’s obsession with power is becoming clearer as he realises that his stint as Camerons “Fag” will soom be over

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          • Anonymous says:

            There is an exception to this rule. You could dunk the whole of YKIP in rosewater and it would still smell like shit and be as useful as a turd in a swimming pool.

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          • Cardinal Beergoggles says:

            Then he will need god euro job like mine, arf.

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    • 57
      Geordieboy says:

      £2.70 1st class or £3.65 recorded delivery, why not make it 2 pounds of dog shit

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      HackneyKFC says:

      You’d get a DNA match with that.

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      one pound fish guy says:

      One pound dog shit! Very very nice!

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    Ed Moribund says:

    Ed Balls has promised to give me a big contribution for ‘Red Ed Knowse Best’ day.”

    He says he’s looking forward to making my ‘red “Ed” nose’ a spectacular shade of Commie Red, he says. Wonder how he’s going to do it?

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    • 52

      Ed Balls is not worried about putting a Red Nose on Millie

      He is just waiting for the right moment to stab him in the back up to the hilt

      Empty Ed will not realse what has happened to him

      He will onky be able to shout s h o a h and anti s -ism you all know the rest

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    Tay King-dePisse says:

    As of 1747 he’s at 380 pounds, eighty to the good of his target of 300 pounds.
    Somehow, I wonder where the three-hundred-pound figure came from– do each of the fundraisers have to raise their weight, as expressed in pounds as opposed to stone?

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    • 36
      Anonymous says:

      Great idea. We could get Piggy Pickles to nominate the Treasury as his charity and pay off the national debt.

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  18. 37
    Anonymous says:

    Anyone think the gluttonous c*nt should hand over some of his lunch money first?

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    • 41
      Ed Moribund says:

      Pleath Tom.. Don’t take my lunch money again..I’ve got to give it to Ballsey, right after I’ve done his homework.

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    From a recent letter from my MP to me in reply to my complaint about lack of BBC impartiality:

    Genuine impartiality is vital to the BBC maintaining its reputation. I believe that, in the vast majority of cases, it does achieve this. The BBC is aware that people are worried about this issue. In order to remedy this and allay these concerns, it has recently implemented annual reviews and staff seminars on the issue.

    Can you imagine being satisfied by such a statement? I am not.

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  20. 45
    Wyle Cop says:

    Four Mirror hacks had their collars felt today; not a peep from Thug Watson or Miss Bryant.

    Odd, that…

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    • 73
      (I don't need no doctor) says:

      What did you expect. Neither of them is true. Both are complete arsewipes.

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  21. 47
    Nick Cloggs says:

    It wasn’t me.

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  22. 50

    I have a negative 20 point net populerity rating

    How can I become Prime Minister?

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  23. 55
    Bryant says:

    OOoooh, I say. What is that he’s holding?

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  24. 59
    Jason Bourne says:

    Do you know who I am ?

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    NO to anonymous meat says:

    pig in Halal chicken sausage, you have to laugh really

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  26. 66
    Public Information Film says:

    Remember kids, people are dying everyday from death related diseases.

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  27. 70
    Jimmy says:

    I can’t believe Guido missed this. And in his own paper too.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article4840477.ece

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      Casual Observer says:

      Caught that elsewhere.

      To be fair Brown deserves an apology for that.

      Before he is burned alive for the stuff he did bad to the vast majority and is likely never to apologize for. Pension theft on a national scale is one such misdeed.

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      • 78
        (I don't need no doctor) says:

        Would Brown apologise if the boot was on the other foot? NO!

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        • 84
          Jimmy says:

          Conservatism means never having to say you’re sorry.

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          • Casual Observer says:

            Come now Jimmy.

            The boot is on the other foot. IDNND has a point which should be proved wrong.

            You could lead the way, but we really need it from the horses mouth, so to speak.

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          • Anonymous says:

            The twat DID say sorry to Mrs Duffy to be fair. Hahahahahahahaha

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          • CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

            You can’t apologise to those 200 Million Marxism has murdered.

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          • Casual Observer says:

            Wasn’t much of an apology.

            There was more hot air about broadcasters transmitting ‘private’ conversations.

            Misses the point that he should not be saying such things about the electorate in the first place.

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          • Jimmy says:

            The point is, of course, take the sodding mic off.

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          • Casual Observer says:

            Leaving the mike on is good.

            Shows people what the left are really about, as if the 200+ million they have killed over the past 100 or so years was not enough.

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          • Jimmy says:

            It’s exhausting I don’t mind telling you.

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          • Anonymous says:

            It must be exhausting being totally wrong about EVERYTHING!

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          • Busted says:

            So Jimmy is Mrs Duffy a bigot or did she raise relevant concerns? When you find out, let McMentsl know won’t you?

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      • 89

        Agree completely, much as I detest the man.

        Run the guy into the ground for his political decisions but leave the kids out of it.

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        • 131
          Anonymous says:

          Couldn’t agree more. I have made a point of naming Guido’s family on other blogs and newspaper comment sections every time he attacks (or allows attacks) on other families. Strangely he seems to be a complete hypocrite on this topic as he gets very very uppity.

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          • Jimmy says:

            An illogical response, as his family have done nothing to deserve it. Indeed one could argue they have suffered enough.

            Oddly enough, I did once see Mrs. F’s real name tweeted followed by an angry response from an account at CCHQ. Quelle surprise.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Stop blowing smoke up Jimmy’s arse you ridiculous old git.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Cat; this is a different anonymous! I respect your views and we have had previous exchanges with me using a handle Guido banned. I cannot,however, agree that my response is illogical. I have no other weapon and, when no other option exists one must rely on what is to hand.

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          • You are a different Anonymous but you are defending the point of the earlier Anonymous who names Guido’s family? If so, I am well confused…

            Jimmy and I disagree on political philosophy completely. We accept that but can go beyond it to agree on points of human decency. Not so controversial.

            Your only weapon might be a nuclear device. Does that mean you have to use it?

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          • Another Anonymous says:

            Piss off.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Jimmy and SC rely upon each other to exist. To prolong their busted ideologies and utter stupidity – just like the left rely upon the right to keep up the division and chaos. That’s the scam.

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          • @ BW

            We have both an appreciation of the concept of Aufhebung but approach it from different ends of the street.

            Where Jimmy does appeal to me is in his use of humour to put his point. You could certainly learn something from him here.

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      Anonymous says:

      Has he apologised for the gold debacle yet? Thought not.

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      JH873984792384 says:

      Jeeesus f*cking begorra. I know he’s your legendary hero 4 eva and all that Jimmy, but – please – at least print a bold warning before linking to uncensored pictures of that mentalist.

      Look at that face. That is a contorted mask of dogma, controlled by a complete wreck of a mind.

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    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    I know where I would like to shove the bottle he is holding.

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    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    Channel 4 News, tory haters, selective news reporting. Snow, Newmah, Guru- Murthy, what shysters you are! Totally biased, totally disgusting.

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    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    Jack Straw – LIAR.

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    Fishy says:

    Another load of st1t that Labour left Cameron to clear up.

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    Cardinal Beergoggles says:

    fat get

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    Bottom feeders of the charity fraud says:

    Funnily enough donating to children in need means that most of the money goes to rich adults who then mince around paying themselves big salaries and employing their friends and family to do paperclip shuffling and attending meetings giving each other ego hand jobs telling each other how caring and wonderful they all are. And all of them are from the progressive left, funny old world innit?

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  34. 109
    CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

    Why would we do something that made Britain the greatest power on earth when we could try something that’s killed 200 Million people?

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    NO to anonymous meat says:

    Rather than bailing out the fuckwit bankers could the government consider taking that money back and directly investing it into an industrial project utilizing and developing new technology ?
    I have suggest an envelope for this could be a space program utilizing the technology to make miniature machines and connected the 3D printing of biological organs. In this manner we could establish modern industries as opposed to fuckwit financial services.

    Thanks in advance

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      Banned Ex British Legion Dominoes club. says:

      That is an inspired idea, the workers of this country could actually make something instead of shuffling paper around and administering each others money, basing a countries industries specifically in the financial sector is all well and good but when things go tits up with the entire world economy except the Chinese and middle east oilers it leaves us bollocksed.

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    Meanwhile says:

    God this man is a complete wanker, just shows what happens when evolution goes wrong.

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    NO to anonymous meat says:

    I do think there is something in thinking of insects rather than BMW. small, intelligent spaceships could probably be initially launched into space by little party balloons saving loads of fuel. If we approach it this way, making loads of intelligent little things that come come together to make a bigger machine and mine and recreate themselves on an asteroid or mini-planet I think we would be really making progress and the development would led to new discoveries. AS opposed to no fucking plan at all.

    thanks in advance

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    shooty* says:

    Fat cretin.

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  40. 129
    Fishy says:

    As our freedoms slowly sail off into a red sunset, this might be worth a read.

    The secretive sinister elitist Hacked Off crew (who have used the ‘victims’ for their own purposes), Miliband and Clegg have to be stopped.

    http://www.spiked-online.com/site/article/13446/

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  41. 133

    Now I know Guido hates us.

    Fancy leaving that grotesque image up for a complete night. It is enough to put anyone, male or female off sex for some considerable time.

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  42. 142
    Big fucking deal says:

    Everyone look at me.
    I raise money for charidee

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  43. 150
    Chris Huhne says:

    My arse is on fire.

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  44. 155
    Chucky says:

    Chucky’s on tonight’s Question Time! That should provide some laughs. It’s so transparent that he genuinely sees himself as a future PM. Talk about believing your own hype.

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  45. 156
    Pope Beergooglio says:

    Sex is a sin. Except when it involves buggering kids.

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  46. 159
    Leo Britain, Derek Lawd, Peter Lilo, Gravel Jammer, Gerald Cuffman, George Robberson says:

    We’re turning Catholic! We like the church’s stance on altar boys.

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  47. 161

    Economic recovery is in sight, says Governor Sir Mervyn King Telegraph

    What has he spotted that no one else in the world has?

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    • 171
      Casual Observer says:

      Dave and Gideon’s last ditch attempt to create a mini boom and save the 2015 election ?

      Or, a hallucination caused by accidentally consuming an acid tab.

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      • 181

        Maybe a typo?

        He had dictated recovery is slight?

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        • 195
          Casual Observer says:

          You may be right. T’Graph has been getting quite sloppy lately, likely a result of cutbacks in the middle-editor levels.

          This is a bit more realistic:

          http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/03/13/britains-fiscal-failure/

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          • Reuters have published some excellent stuff recently and this is good. I have not had a chance to follow all the links and there were a couple of queries that struck me as I read it but I can immediately agree with 80-90%.

            The article which you posted earlier (think it was in the Telegraph), with the NIESR profile of recession and recovery for every downturn since the 1920s was excellent and I saved it for future reference and may use it in a forthcoming presentation. Frightening!

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          • I would add that although not a fan of Keynes, his concept of an economic cycle would not, for example, have included Japan’s recent two-decade long phase of deflation IMO.

            And this I liked too in the first link: You can’t predict a recession in real time…

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          • Casual Observer says:

            It is quite worrying.

            Usually deficits do not matter as they can be considered marginal risks. This is fine provided you are managing your margins. Oops.

            The key point in the Reuters article is about interest rates. And the rates it means are not the Bo.E rates, but the gilt rates.

            Keeping the deficit high in the face of the downgrade and somewhat obvious structural weaknesses in the UK economy is likely to prove fatal.

            There are several major trends converging at present, which give me the idea that the UK could be in Greece territory before the end of the year.

            That outcome is guaranteed either way:

            i) If the currency is devalued through further QE to manage gilt risk, big price inflation will occur particularly in imported food, which will cause unrest. (This is why UK ability to manage interest rate risk is compromised)

            ii) If government radically reduces its costs, and reduces the deficit, the laid off workers will cause unrest.

            Doing a mix of the above may end up with more unrest than one or the other, but the first appears to be the option in the frame.

            Meanwhile, the pension elephant in the background is getting restless. The unfunded liabilities there are not going away (dying…), and the funding gap is growing.

            My gut is telling me that despite all this talk of what the UK owes, the UK is being screwed by some who owe it which is part of the problem right now. Would be good to find out how much of this debt is owed by European countries.

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          • Indeed.

            The Paradox of Thrift/Paradox of Savings arguments are all coming out of the woodwork again as well. It is like being back in the late 70s.

            I have been saying for some years now that money cannot be forever priced at nothing without some other detrimental effect occurring. This is why I was talking about the probable ultimate need for default a week or so ago (Forget the QE nonsense BTW.)

            Otherwise what are we going to see? GBP falling under parity with both USD and EUR, maybe by next year?

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            I don’t read these to / fro’s between SC and CO much now they seem to be a big – you big me up and I’ll big you up round robin. They are both dupes into the world of Economy – that’s being economic with the truth and reality – in the Family of Bankers’ scam – USURY AND DUPLICITY ANYONE – I’LL SELL IT YOU TALK IT UP AND WE’LL SHARE THE PROCEEDS (OF CRIME) AROUND THE BACK?

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          • Wisdom

            integrated knowledge – information made super-useful

            Try it some time, BW. Get rid of your bitterness and exercise that grey matter of yours.

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    • 182

      This is what he has spotted

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/deficit-worsens-despite-george-osbornes-boast-8429663.htm

      As Alan Greenspan used to say

      Deficits do not matter (sic)

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    • 196
      albacore says:

      Perhaps playing Battleships in his bath
      And plotting the surest torpedo path
      To sink a recovery like a stone?
      Has he got the nous to leave it alone?

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      CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

      “This last bend in the mirror will finally make you slimmer” Sir Mervyn said to the Emperor.

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    I place bacon and beer on the koran says:

    Ha ha! Traces of pork found in halal meat served in primary schools. Serves the muzees right.

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    • 225
      lateral thinker says:

      All politicians (and including some political bloggers) are slaves to the shekel!

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        ☻☻☻☻☻☻☻ says:

        well at least we can rejoice about sharon the butcher and his permanent vegetative state.

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      • 294
        Blowing Whistles says:

        + 5,999,999

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      • 297
        Blowing Whistles says:

        80% of all politicians from all 3 major political parties can be ‘relied upon’ to never dare to question their puppet masters – especially when a mantra or two are put to them.

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          Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

          I certainly dare not now otherwise the resignation of my seat might becaome a reality. Boaz.

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  50. 165
    Gordon Brown says:

    My nokia’s on fire. That’s what happens when you throw it up to 200 times a day.

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  51. 166
    Mark Oaten says:

    I’m starting a smear campaign.

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  52. 169
    Mong Watch says:

    Owen proving he does not have a clue about economics:

    Now, the arse-breath of the people was making good points. The majority of innovation and inventions do come from public funded projects.

    The US space program is a major example, the internet evolving out of CERN is another.

    Where he fails, and what he is not pointing out, is that wasting public money on benefits is one of the reasons why the UK cannot trumpet such achievements.

    However, he is missing in his above ‘analysis’ that there is a symbiosis between public and private sectors in an economy whereby, public money invested into speculative projects and research should yield fruits which the private sector can then commercialize, thus providing back to the public. The cycle is complete when the tax raised on earlier fruits is re-invested to create new capital.

    To prove the mong factor of Jones, with Osborne’s slashing of PSNI to bring deficit down, this investment was attacked which has caused a long term problem.

    In Jones’ world though, he is only worried about ‘poor’ unproductive types getting their benefit checks and unproductive public sector pay, which he does not want to bring attention to, that being a large part of the 75% of deficit which has so far proved stubborn to reduce.

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      Red sails says:

      Blank piece of paper theory, I learned that from Ed M

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      Little PC Hand-wringing Gobshite Hypocrites says:

      I’ve noticed he is very trigger happy to block anyone who points out what a thicko he looks or contest one of his points.

      As they say round my end; Needs a good slap that lad does.

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      CarryHole is a silly Hunt says:

      >The majority of innovation and inventions do come from public funded projects.

      VERY wrong. and not even strictly relevant. The research comes at a price and the extortion funded sector tends to make it come earlier but at an uneconomic price.

      The Moon program cost the U.S. 1/2 a years entire GDP. Imagine what else could’ve been improved via efficient demand orientated mechanisms in the private sector.

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        Mong Watch says:

        US Public Sector investment has been the main driver behind research, and initial development since the end of WWII.

        The private sector has rightly benefited from this.

        Another aspect Jones does not want to touch on is that the largest publicly funded body which stimulates innovation globally is the US DoD. The contractor firms used may be private, but the funding source is ultimately public.

        Private competition leads towards mono cultures of products and ideas, and developments which are ethically questionable: Monsant0’s GM seeds are a good example, as are some of the poorly tested yet expensive drugs which are dumped on the market.

        This former aspect is fine as the private sector should be about commercialization. Bringing the fruits of publicly funded research and development to the masses is a skill distinct from research and development itself.

        If the space program had been left to the private sector, like with recent attempts to commercialize trips to space, it would not have happened. Likewise, all of the important fringe technology which was developed, such as LCD tech etc., would also not have happened. You would likely be staring at a CRT screen right now, and the digital watch revolution still yet to happen.

        Public investment if done right does yield good returns, and provides the seedbed for healthy private sector exploitation. This is tricky to see in the UK as most UK R&D is commercially exploited abroad.

        Public investment done wrong leads to ‘bedroom tax’.

        The majority of innovation and invention does source from the publicly funded projects, at least it has done since the conclusion of WWI.

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        Mong Watch says:

        US Public Sector investment has been the main dr!ver behind research, and initial development since the end of WWII.

        The private sector has rightly benefited from this.

        Another aspect Jones does not want to touch on is that the largest publicly funded body which stimulates innovation globally is the US DoD. The contractor firms used may be private, but the funding source is ultimately public.

        Private competition leads towards mono cultures of products and ideas, and developments which are ethically questionable: Monsant0′s GM seeds are a good example, as are some of the poorly tested yet expensive drugs which are dumped on the market.

        This former aspect is fine as the private sector should be about commercialization. Bringing the fruits of publicly funded research and development to the masses is a skill distinct from research and development itself.

        If the space program had been left to the private sector, like with recent attempts to commercialize trips to space, it would not have happened. Likewise, all of the important fringe technology which was developed, such as LCD tech etc., would also not have happened. You would likely be staring at a CRT screen right now, and the digital watch revolution still yet to happen.

        Public investment if done right does yield good returns, and provides the seedbed for healthy private sector exploitation. This is tricky to see in the UK as most UK R&D is commercially exploited abroad.

        Public investment done wrong leads to ‘bedroom tax’, and the extortion you allude to which is a feature of the UK.

        The majority of innovation and invention does source from the publicly funded projects, at least it has done since the conclusion of WWI.

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      JH389893242139 says:

      A very small proportion of public spending goes on projects that could be called ‘innovative’.

      The rest goes on handouts to people whose entire working lives revolve around doing absolutely nothing in a better, more efficient way. That might involve them having to work harder, or smarter, or both. Can’t have that or you’ll hear from my Union rep.

      The idea that we should give money hand over fist to welfarites – be they on the dole or the public sector blue-sky-thinking middle manager variety – because one of them might suddenly invent something like Teflon is ludicrous.

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        Mong Watch says:

        Yes / No.

        You are right on the model which has singularly failed in the UK. But that model was flawed from the outset. The union problem you mention had killed more private industries previously in the UK than public.

        That problem in the US is masked, but just as evident. A big reason US automotive could not compete with Japan3se was a result of that issue. Detro!t shows you where this ends.

        In the UK too much public money is wasted on people who are economically unproductive. Some is spent on good areas of research in Universities and Hospitals, however there is no real follow through mechanism for capitalizing on that output in the UK. Hence the real benefit is lost to the country.

        If I am a researcher at a center in Britain and do my thesis on cool effect X, which I know can be used in new product Y, other than there being no incentive to think at all about Y, even if I do there is no mechanism set up to allow me to continue to found a company and produce Y.

        In the US, the model is very different, allowing X to lead to Y, and then to the people.

        The PSNI I mentioned above being reduced – even though that has broadly led to roads not being maintained properly – kind of defeats even having this argument though, and has done deep damage to the economy looking ahead.

        That balance does need to be adjusted, however rewards may not be evident for a generation or so.

        The generation who have been educated under Labour recently are now broadly useless, which is one immediate problem. Another is that it will take a while for research funding to be directed away from politically motivated waste of time exercises like climate research, towards more useful areas.

        The odd culture in UK research institutions that perceives that the commercial realization of research is somehow bad and not part of the process will take time to correct, as will the false myth that practical is less important than theoretical in both research and development of skills.

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          Anonymous says:

          “The generation who have been educated under Labour recently are now broadly useless, …”

          Do you work for the CBI?

          They are not useless. They have just no opportunity or motivation. They were told clearly by the CBI that they were being replaced by imports and so were useless.

          What is useless, is to think that we can create a population that can fit the needs of a false economy, as opposed to creating an economy that fits the ability of the population. A vast group just need heavy physical work. But guess what, there is nothing available. The art of economy is to use all resources to their fullest extent. If the negative joint cost of benefits were factored in, many unskilled activities would be profitable.

          Once a person is in place in work, and it becomes repetitive they strive to break free. Some invent, some manage, but the rewards have to be available.

          Instead dishonesty, crime, and fictitious trading is the only way to a reward in the UK.

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          • JH389893242139 says:

            No, they are pretty useless. They think they are going to be ‘discovered’ and be famous and be on the telly like Nicki Minaj.

            There is no understanding that you need to start off with a pretty basic job and work your way up. You are right, many just need a basic labouring job to make progress – but they think they are too good for it. I used to regularly walk past the dole office in Peterborough, with the usual shambolic bunch stood outside smoking fags. On literally the other side of the road, minibuses were picking up young motivated people from Eastern Europe to go and pick veg in the fields ten miles away. Did no-one put 2 and 2 together?

            Alternatively, many think they are going to get a first job as a junior partner in a blue chip firm because they spent three years doing media studies at Spunkbridge Pollyversity. Whose arsehole idea was it that 50% of school leavers should to go to ‘Uni’? We may as well teach half the population to be bricklayers. At least there is a chance the skill might come in useful.

            Ironically this is good for my generation as we will have less competition nipping our heels, but they really are truly fucked. Once their generation have gone a full ten years without being able to engage in proper, promising work and get on a healthy housing ladder they may never bother. Neither will their kids.

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          • Mong Watch says:

            You have identified the other end of the problem. That is lack of motivation and opportunity, and rewarding failure / criminal action.

            However, that is not an excuse for them, only part of an explanation.

            The importation of cheaper labour is a major problem which makes no sense. Especially when the outsourcing of jobs is considered.

            That combined with an eroded education system which was more focused on imparting political ideology and inflated expectations rather than hard skills is the fatal blow. Especially when that indoctrination has in the main been pushed on people into their early 20s.

            It is not useless to think that a skilled population can be created and an economy to fit. Where the jobs have been outsourced to for example, those countries would have perhaps considered the skills their population were being given useless before hand. Until the jobs arrived, and in any case people figured that they could use those skills productively which is how economies work in any case.

            I disagree that people strive to break free once in repetitive work. If that was truly the case then we would not be saddled with so much public sector dross.

            Until the younger generation wake up and realize that if things continue on this path for much longer they are not going to achieve the same standard of living that their parents did, they will remain screwed, and the UK as a nation continue to decline.

            Most who were born 1986-1994 are done for this lifetime, doubly so if they bought a house. They will not have a pension if they survive to retirement age.

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          • Banned Ex British Legion Dominoes club. says:

            The dummed down XFactor/Hollyoaks generation, gawping at useless €unts from Essex who never seem to work but have shitloads of bling, expensive cars and a party every day lifestyle, what do we expect when our wanker media idiots are selling this to impressionable, poorly educated Chav class? This is now a society which reveres the idiots and mocks the intelligent, the everyones a winner attitude sold to education departments supposedly to encourage low performing pupils, all it really did was demitivate the strivers, there are intelligent kids out there who need encouraging and guiding but Labours education policies really fucked the system up.
            I worked as a lecturer in a small town college and couldn’t believe the lack of basic maths and English skills these kids who had just spent the last 5 years in senior school, dummed down and ill prepared for a life looking after themselves and finding decent employment, don’t blame them, blame the system, the media and society which shoved consumerism, the fame culture and shit education in their impressionable heads.

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          • Keen nose says:

            @Banned Ex British Legion Dominoes club

            “dummed down”
            “shitloads”
            “wanker”
            “demitivate”
            “Labours education policies” (ever heard of the apostrophe?)

            These are some grammatical howlers I picked up from just a cursory glance.

            A undisputed semi-literate like you has some nerve to criticize the younger generation.

            And you were a lecturer you say?

            No wonder our children are well and truly goosed.

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          • Banned Ex British Legion Dominoes club. says:

            Dear Ken Nose,
            I knew someone would pick up on my grammatical errors.
            It is hard to proof read when using an Android phone, I did re-read this comment after posting it, unfortunately this site doesn’t have an option to edit comments once posted, yes it is ironic that I mentioned poor education standards of students when my own post has some minor errors.

            If you fancy a job proof reading others publications there are plenty of illiterate politicians who could also do with your pedantic critical scrutiny.

            Yours apologetically.

            P.S. I am the product of state school Comprehensive education, I didn’t get a chance of a decent grammar school education which I surely would have had, if Labour hadn’t abolished them where I grew up.

            cheers.

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          • JH3284923849238 says:

            Usual response of someone with no argument. You made a spelling error, so nothing you say counts.

            Have the left nothing to offer but a steady stream of the archetypal logical fallacies and accusations of racism?

            Answer: Yes.

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          • Banned Ex British Legion Dominoes club. says:

            The socialist have nothing left to offer but bluster and petty name calling, a fine example of their ilk is the young lady on QT who couldn’t win a debate with a two year old toddler, what makes me really laugh is that most of those middle class lefties had a better education than myself but cannot understand basic economics, have no understanding of real politics, tend to be very condescending and the biggest bunch of bigots you could ever meet.

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    I love this

    Chess players would call this the Major-Prescott defence

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2293511/Married-PCSO-accused-having-sex-women-duty-prosecuted-John-Major-affairs-too.html

    Do you (or micro Guido) do it on duty as well Guido?

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      Anonymous says:

      There are other dangers. In the early 90s a manager at TSB was dismissed for this offence (to be fair he did use the top of the photocopier as a sex aid). His appeal to an employment tribunal hit the Sun under the heading ‘My Bonk Manager’.

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      Bill Clinton says:

      There is a certain elegance to the argument.

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    כריס says:

    Luciana Berger future Labour leader.

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    EdButLookBalls says:

    Hacked Off = Fucked Off = HaHaHaHaHaHaYouCelebrityWankersIncludingYouToenails

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    Inspector Cluedo says:

    Reading this thread makes me think …

    Shrodingers cat = can’t remember my moniker = Jimmy

    I always new the first part of the equation but only now the last.

    Is anybody Qeulle surprised at the sadness of some?

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    A Citizen says:

    I am going to bed now. I shall sleep soundly knowing that we have a fine and democratic government, a powerful navy protecting these shores and plenty of money in the bank.

    Nighty night.

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    Fatbot's Fanny Medical says:

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    Chucky has a permanent smug look on his face says:

    Roll up roll up! Question Time underway. Mad Frankie Maude and Upchuck.

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      Biased Broadcasting Cuttingroom says:

      Best not to watch the BBC’s party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour Party.

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    MB. says:

    Interesting idea on Islay, the High School had difficulty in recruiting cleaners so they are using eight pupils who each do three hours a week and get the standard rate of pay. They get some money and work experience for that and school gets cleaners.

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      Self Help says:

      What’s wrong with telling the Kiddywinks to clean up the classroom before they leave? We had to Skirmish the playground and corridors before we could leave.

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    Chucky has a permanent smug look on his face says:

    Theo Paphitis talking sense on Question Time.

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    HappyUK says:

    I admire the simple unpretentiousness of this fat bloke who enjoys a good old drink and sing-song with the best of them.

    Seriously, the deafening silence (along with Cameron’s visible discomfort) since his Commons question last October speaks volumes about the state this country is in, which is this: paedophile networking on an industrial scale, local government bribery, Home Office cover-ups, and international child trafficking.

    The cowardly MSM need to stop harping on about already dead perpetrators, Cyril Smith, Anthony Blunt and Jimmy Savile, and put the spotlight on the existing, covered-up vicious Establishment paedophile ring that continues to go unpunished. They’re all on the Elm House list.

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    One Term Dave says:

    I feel that my mission to piss off every single section of the electorate has been fully accomplished. However if anyone feels that he or she has been overlooked, just let me know.

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      albacore says:

      Our new immigrant pals have nowt to bitch about
      With your strenuous efforts not to keep them out
      Or deport the ones blotting their copy books
      Fair dos, though – elsewhere what you’ve done really sucks

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    Chucky has a permanent smug look on his face says:

    Here we go, a question on the economy. Chucky will no doubt have pearls of wisdom.

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    Smash the BBC/EU conspiracy says:

    NN presenting the semi-intelligible Giscard d’Estaing to say it would be bad for UK to leave the EU. What a totally pointless propaganda exercise.

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      Operation Crossbow says:

      Funny that Newsnight ignored the arrest of a load of Mirror hacks today

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        Realism is in short supply says:

        The bbc did however say that Coulson, ex adviser to Cameron, had been arrested and would be in court – funny that.

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        The BBC...Working for a Labour Victory in 2015 says:

        We will as ever always be impartial in holding the Tory Party to account over their failed policies

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    Anonymous says:

    Eric Joyce arrested after fight in bar at Parliament according to Beeb – Deja Vu feeling eh?

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      Anonymous says:

      http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/33506/joyce_arrested.html

      So more than dozen police officers called and bundled off in van still fighting…..

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        He will fight, fight and fight again…

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          Blowing Whistles says:

          He’s deluded SC – I think you might have some cognisance with that mindset.

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          • Whilst I am always open to improvement, BW, I am reasonably happy with my DIKW hierarchy as so far developed. You may care to ponder the development of your IKW in order to do something useful with all that D you appear to have accumulated.

            Once you get beyond the psychomotor stage, you will find there is a whole new world out there.

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        Casual Observer says:

        If there is a by-election, not sure UKIP would get a look in.

        Following M!tchell, will be interesting to see how the police handle this. Resisting arrest is somewhat serious.

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          Blowing Whistles says:

          Try watching a rerun of CH4 News – circa 7:35 pm Thursday – of Domestic Extremists.

          Now let’s guess if the ACPO and every Chief Cun.stable in the UK was not politically suborned / duped / entrapped by blair and his handlers into being State Goons at that time?

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            As an example – step Forward Martin Baker former CC.k.u.n.t of Dorset – who began his career knowing things about the Manchester and Guildford innocent.

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          • Casual Observer says:

            I will check out your recommendation to refresh.

            May be interesting to your point as Joyce is an independent having had to resign Labour party after last time.

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      Banned Ex British Legion Dominoes club. says:

      A good excuse to price Parliament bar booze @ £5.00 per ml instead of us poor bastards subsidising it.

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    Breaking News says:

    Eric Joyce arrested pissed up in the HoC bar.

    Plod involved

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    Taffy says:

    WTF is a pure water window cleaning business FFS!!!!

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      Chuka's greasy Pole says:

      It works very well. Pure/demin water is used to wash the windows and is applied from a pole with the window cleaner stood on terra firma. Takes less than 5 mins to do a whole house and no smears left.

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    Chucky has a permanent smug look on his face says:

    Second time Joyce has been arrested. He should be made to resign his seat.

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    Time for this cunt to go says:

    I’ve emailed Eric Joyce telling him he should just resign his seat as he’s now been arrested twice for drunken violent behaviour. Email him at eric@ericjoyce.co.uk

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    Time for this cunt to go says:

    Last time Joyce yelled “There’s too many fucking Tories here”. What did he yell this time?

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    Cunty Chucky says:

    Christ, I truly fucking hate Chucky. What an utterly self-satisfied twat.

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      Joe says:

      My I add Mehdi Hassan to the list, the twat is in full retard mode on Brillo’s ‘this week’ atm.

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    Am I the only one? says:

    I don’t particularly want the press regulated on account of the sensitivities of a couple who left their children alone in their holiday apartment.

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      Blowing Whistles says:

      The whole debacle about Leve man is a ruse upon the public – what they don’t want to recognise is that they have all been found out abusing “The public Interest” in all matters – the Leve roadshow showboating is just another charade – which centres on the press the ‘NOT’ in reality ‘FREE PRESS’. The whole debacle is based upon a falsity – that we actually have a ‘free press’ – we haven’t for fucking decades.

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    liberal engineering says:

    He should have chosen ‘I predict a riot’, especially if Eric Joyce was in the room…

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    Freedom of Speech says:

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      JH3284923849238 says:

      Jimmy has decreed this man is not to speak. He distracts the little people from the grinding long walk to the Socialist Golden Dawn.

      Hold your barcode to the screen for penal registration, citizen.

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      Blowing Whistles says:

      I told this ranting loony to fuck off months ago – I was recently wondering where he had disappeared to …. he’s worse that taffy – but I do enjoy laughing at his inverted of any logic pitiful deluded commie dupe socialist marxist rants. Prick.

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    My first is in Joyce but isn't James says:

    Is Eric related to the late actress Yootha Joyce, who also had a drink problem?

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    Go back and read my comments about Lordy Ahmed the b’strd liar.

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  79. 316
    Blowing Whistles says:

    BW comment at 1:32 was directed at Violins – Jane merrick at 1:22.

    Hope she’s not related to the plonker twat lying lawyer Walter Merricks the former head at the FOS in cahoots with Bar.clays.

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    BBC kontrollers says:

    School places under immense pressure

    (Notice how we skillfully avoided mentioning the real reason -immigration- for the entire article teehee!)

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      albacore says:

      Such allegations slating immigration
      Guarantee your place for re-education
      Learn to celebrate the great dedication
      The state allocates to replace our nation

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  81. 329
    Fact Hunt says:

    Copper’s helmet knocked off by Joyce. Chris Bryant rushed to help.

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  82. 342
    Not Brainwashed by the BBC says:

    The BBC’s “Comic” Relief. All their “comics” are Labour party members or stooges. They don’t appear to understand the difference between comedy and puerile self indulgence. The relief comes when it is over for another year.

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  83. 344
    thesavant10.4 highway patrol says:

    breaking news eric joyce is at it again having ALLEGEDLY been involved in a Westminster bar room brawl last night .

    What s the labour Party doing about it ??

    Does he still reperesent labour or has he been expelled.

    If the latter on what pretext is he still drawing salary and emoluments allocated to a serving MP??

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  84. 346
    Cunts Anonymous says:

    My name is Eric Joyce and I’m a Labour c-unt.

    Hello, Eric.

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  85. 353
    damned impertinent questions says:

    Whats the hope that Slugger Joyce hit Watson this time – for crimes against good taste

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    Geordieboy says:

    The Fat Twat who shat on a cat and wiped his arse with its tail sings for Hugh Grant.

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