Spot the Difference
On the left: Ed speech, February 14. On the right: Dave speech today. A Labour source tells Guido: “We are sending an invoice to Craig Oliver for speech backdrop consultancy”.
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Andrew Pierce on Ed Balls…
“Porky Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls sweet-talked guests at a fund-raising dinner by saying if he wasn’t a politician, he would be a chef. That’s not surprising, since he was accused of cooking the Treasury books when he was Gordon Brown’s boot boy.”
magic_otter says:
is there anyone in the world that Tony hasnt screwed in some way?
One has a spot…of white hair
Nope, two cocksucking traitorous Israel-Firsters.
I would have thought bum bleeders would have been more appropiate.
One is Old Labour & the other is Blue Labour
Dave is wearing a shirt that is too big for him. Probably got a vest of some kind underneath.
Both photos are of typical English local government offices with nobody at their desks working. Is that 8illy Kebab sitting in his booth outside the window in the photo.
Pryce is shacked up with McShame at the moment – if the jury were told that, they may not have need to retire for so long.
If only the police would get on with the prosecution of McShame, then he could spend some time sharing a cell with Huhne!
RAOFLMFAO
?OCD (in two posts above.)
http://pseudo-intellectual-tax-exile-arsewipe/
http://bob-from-pinner-/?-i-dont-think-so
I do think so. But being a pseudo-intellectual-tax-exile-arsewipe, what would I know?
?OCD (in two posts above.)
h**p://pseudo-intellectual-tax-exile-arsewipe/
h**p://bob-from-pinner-/?-i-dont-think-so
I do think so. But being a pseudo-intellectual-tax-exile-arsewipe, what would I know?
Who cares FoE. Fuck off to the guardian if you’re obsessed about Israel.
Cameron is the first British PM in 75 years never to appoint a j*wish cabinet minster.
Fight anti-semitism: vote for the J*w in 2015!
Sorry, 55. Still.
Do you want a quota for vegetarians, left-handers and one-legged ginger Cornishmen, too?
Do righties hate those groups too?
Come on Jimmy. You know the score.
Righties hate the class of all classes who are not members of themselves. The left hate everyone, including themselves. That is why they use words like inclusive.
Let me know if I can be of further help.
Further?
You spoke, my son?
Don’t go there. Being a lefty, he probably has daddy issues.
all creation comes from heat.
the heat generated by joint churning action between good and evieeeeeel.
what is being churned and what is been used to churn.
Conservatives and Labour would borrow almost the same. Labour would have spent it on capital projects Consecrative are spending on dole.
Under Cameron UK will have aircraft carriers without aircraft and desert rats (tank regiment) without tanks. Labour wasted billions but not as bad as Cameron, what is the point on having two aircraft carriers without aircraft or tank regiment without tanks?
India has aircraft carrier with aircraft and a space programme, it doesn’t even want UK foreign aid still Cameron gives foreign aid to India.
Seriously?
Labour wasted so much while in office there’s bugger all left for anything but dole.
The carriers are Gordon Browns £8 Billion present to his constituents, they have b*gger all to do with Cameron / Clegg. The reason they have no planes / tanks / armour may have something to do with Labour’s mysterious disappearing act of £36 Billion from the defence fund .
Oi, lefties, marxists, trots and beeboids, do some freaking research.
Point is, what is the point in building these aircraft carriers or keeping the tank regiment without tanks?
It would have been better not to built these carriers or disband the regiment as they haven’t got the resources to the job.
If £36bn has gone missing as you say then there should be an inquiry. Way hasn’t Cameron ordered one?
Why Cameron hasn’t ordered an inquiry into the missing billions is a fine question.
Don’t know about the tanks, but Brown had signed up the UK to a contract on the carriers with a multibillion pound cancellation clause. To cancel, it would cost the taxpayer almost as much as the carriers cost to build.
Almost funny anecdote:
Brown ordered two carriers rather than one because he was told it was “cheaper that way”.
An aircraft carrier isn’t an aircraft carrier until its got its aircraft , until then it’s just a cross channel ferry .
Fill it full of lorries , 5 trips a day , could make enough for a few microlites .
F off, racist scumbag, back to your tablets, duvet & sad paranoid life
Oh please, this cant be true are you saying these two top notch tossers support any other country rather than Britain, say it isnt true.
One’s had no proper job and the other’s not had a proper nose job.
One understand economy other history.
Neither has a clue about either subject
and, if I’m not mistaken, no septum.
Sober up. I think you mean scrotum.
Spot the difference… Hmmmm… Is it one is a fucking annoying, incompetent, unaware, toffee nosed prat and the other one is David Cameron?
I coulda been a contender! I coulda been somebody!
They’re both in some kind of factory – both wondering what a factory is.
Probably just an empty building
With Eds ancestry he probably thinks its some kind of Gulag so beloved of his family’s Marxist chums
Twat to the left and twat to the right….
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!
Both are in a sort of politician-only centre ground that nobody with a brain wants to be anywhere near. Why don’t they form their own debating society and leave room for people with conviction and guts to sort out the mess they have dropped us in?
Arseholes, the pair of them. Both need a good kicking.
To The Tower with both of them.
The pair of them want shafting by big bubber.
As the last manufacturer in the UK, there was a long waiting list to use our premises as a backdrop, I can tell you. That Integrated Combobulator in the background was bought by my grandfather in 1926, by the way.
You won’t be the last manufacturer for much longer, our union borthers are planning to go on strike and we support them wholeheartedly.
You have nine employees? That’s nearly eleventeen! We simply can’t have this many people doing jobs in the private sector when they aren’t dependent on the state.
No problem! Answer is outsource to China. Unions? No problem! We have agreement with government, we have political prisoner in labour camp make your widget for no wage. We make widget using recycled hospital waste for only 0.3 cents per unit!
Ed Twelevety balls.
I had actual coffee in hand. No longer. Clean up required.
Er, they look completely different. And at least it’s not a bunch of nodding lackeys.
Two peas in pod no difference what so ever, they really must have some fun planning PMQs.
PMQs stands for what Ed Militwat used as his excuse for being late for shadow cabinet the other day. “Pissed my quilt,” he said. There are some things you just don’t admit to.
Tom gave him a wedgie, then I got Diane to sit on him while we all shared the biscuits out and talked about turning the clock back to the 1970s when we’re in power.
One likes to be rimmed the other likes rimming?
I use Original Source Mint and Tea Tree shower gel to keep my hole minty fresh. It makes my balls tingle too.
Nope, you couldn’t get a fag (paper) between them.
One looks as if he’s lost and confused, the other looks as if he’s just finishing a pee, no change then.
Got a photo of Nickelarse as well to complete the set of LabLibConning fuckers?
Awww, you can’t fool me! It’s the neckties, innit? Different colours!
You not Guido s fashion editor are you?
To all editors: Don’t mention the poor young lad who got the come on from the hideously white English slut was black.
Also, it was the acute pressure from all the Guvmint cuts wot made him flip.
He was obviously and understandably stressed at the forthcoming despicable Tory ‘bedroom tax’. He was merely asking this young lady if she would like to rent a room in his house – he was trying to be public spirited as well as avoid EVIL TORY CUTS – when the selfish white whore threw herself onto his wonderful effnic knífe, possibly blunting it or otherwise vandalising it.
Multiculturalism, immigration and diversity are wonderful. Except when white scum fuck it up.
I hope this vibrant young man and promising rap artist is not too inconvenienced by the white racist police and their bigoted questions – and that the matter will be resolved quickly and suitable compensation paid to him and his distressed family.
In neither pictire can you see anyone doing a hard day’s work for a fair day’s pay.
Wot’s the point in grafting away in a factory, when you can be at home watching the footie and eating KFC dogshit all paid for by the bennies.
Contrary to popular belief, people who have jobs are generally doing a lot better than people living purely on the dole. Especially people without kids. The picture is complcated by people who work and also sign on for various benefits.
Some stupid immigrants don’t know about bennies and those wot do are getting us benny Brits a bad name. Come on Ed, fight our corner!
If you watched this pair in the hope that you might see them do some work you could die during the wait. There’s some paint drying on my garage which would provide a more satisfying hobby.
What colour is it?.
Non Specific Stupidity on the left Non Specific Urethritis on the right
So they are working in a factory on the side I’m more worried about the hair dye!
Where’s Vince?
Where’s Waldo?
http://wordsofleisure.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/wally.jpg?w=486
(As the character is named outside the UK)
Where’s Wally?
I’d call them “Frick & Frack,” as they both produce so much gas, the nation needs look nowhere else for a plentiful supply.
I feel your pain on the last line. Every single day.
One tip for any burger van egg sarnie lovers – get the egg ‘broken’ whilst cooked.
A horrible stain in your lap develops otherwise.
What’s a burger van?
Sorry, I meant mobile premium health food cuisine establishment.
Best one I know of up here is near the Corus steel plant in Redcar – quality grub.
Are there horses near Redcar?
Owen! Are you ready for bed yet? Don’t forget to put the boxing gloves on.
The sad reality is that there is a huge difference. Labour are going to win with a huge majority on their most leftwing platform in decades.
What do you mean “their” most leftwing platform? Ed’s my little bitch.
You are not a communist. You are a thief.
Eff-off, beardy.
Hey, wanna see Ed dance? I’ll make my little bitch dance for you. Hmm, yeah. Beer and sandwiches in Number 10, and little bitch-boy Ed entertaining us with his little bitch dance. It’ll be so cool!
One Asian ! One Asian ! One Asian !!
Unfortunately you’re probably correct. We will have to endure the inevitable economic collapse anyway under the LabLibConners. Labour will just finally fuck things up quicker. There is no point in sticking with Dave & Co. as they are merely following a weaker version of PC socialism.
Your cheque is in the post, comrade. I believe the sum we agreed was eleventy-nine pence…?
The brutal truth is ukip probably won’t even get an MP after the collapse.
Yes Correct.
No, they will win with the biggest minority.
None of the above, no shows and spoilt papers will come away with about 55% of the vote.
Postal votes are the decider.
Vote early and vote often, they all look the same.
Frick and frack – good one. It is certainly getting harder to tell any of the lot of ‘em apart these days … unfortunately for all of us.
Why can you never find a reckless speeding motorist, jumping the lights, when you most desperately need one.
http://vimeo.com/61280084
Bedroom tax?
Two more soon available.
Here’s a cost saving idea: mixed prisons. Maybe married couples could share a cell together…?
They’d better get a shiv made from a toothbrush handle.
Tempting to put Carina and McShane in next door to them and have compulsory partner-swapping parties.
On the other hand, the image just make me sick a bit. Sorry.
The lib-dems show. More scandal and gossip than any soap opera. Cue music.
Hang on a mo.
I should take your Rolex back.
They need a few tips from me to improve their profiles.
We at labour admit everything we did while in government was wrong, however we still have the same shadow ministers, so just trust us when voting at the next election.
Ed Miliband and Ed Balls backed Brown, but that doesn’t count.
They still hold to the same disastrous economic policy of borrow and spend and still believe in creating hundreds of thousands of government non-jobs is the way to productivity and growth!!
And they still believe the reintroduction of their NHS Killing Fields is their No1 priority .
Prime Minister David Cameron came into my shoe shop today, he said “I’d like a pair of red shoes please.”
“Certainly sir,” I replied, “What size?”
“Size 40.”
Fucking clown.
You sure that wasn’t St tone the Bliar getting ready for his election to the popehood?
Predator on the left, producer on the right.
Producer of what? Hot air?
Cast-iron guarantees.
We will cover ourselves in mud.
Guess what! Now I’m dead I went to look on the moon. Those damned Americanos Yanquis really DID put a flag there.
Guido,I want the old you back.
Milibland was in an empty hall.
Dopey Ed is a smarmy fud.
Now “our expert” Vicky Pryce ” is no longer free to fill your screens, we will have to turn to our other Greek expert, Golden Dawn.
All the same rubbish.
Another politician with no recollection
http://davidhencke.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/i-regularly-briefed-jenny-tonge-on-child-abuse-in-richmond-childrens-director/
She looks like a bosom pal of Margaret Hodge who has similar child abuse issues in her past.
This is connected with Richmond, Elm House / Grafton Road, stuff which some are trying to pin 100% on the Conservatives.
Regrettably the LibLabCon were all in it together, but those on the Conservative controlled council in positions responsible for social services and child protection happened to be Lib Dem.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/9914588/RBS-to-compensate-customers-hit-by-computer-glitch.html
This will cost RBS a fortune in compensation.
Since RBS is largely owned by you and me, the tax-payers, that means that we are going to end up forking out for the bank’s incompetence.
Why the hell hasn’t the whole operation just been shut down ?
Tails we win, heads you lose, it’s a work of genius.
Watch the Chuck up – Will Smith video. I thought I was watching something recorded in Harlem or Soweto, not the capital of the English nation.
Why did this bastion of free speech not allow comments ?
This is the future under the middle class metropolitan scum of Lib/Lab/Con. Ed “My Commie grandfather was a traitor run out of Poland Milliband” and “Maybe its because I’m a Londener” fatty Abbot are the voice of our nation now.
Just remember that ‘diversity is our strength’
Nobody has ever given the stats behind that statement.
Because there arent any, fatbot is a twat once only.
I have to question why Guido won’t allow comments on it. Has he been visited by the thought police from the “Equality Commission”? We know senior politicians read this site and we also know they are deeply unhappy that some English people realise that what is going on is ethnic cleansing – note violent criminals often escape prison but say something bad about our enrichment and you have a decent chance of doing porridge. To see a video like that which looks like it’s in Africa but to find out the third world has been brought here is depressing. Churchill would be rolling in his grave. And to think my family members went off to die in those damned wars to keep us British and the slimy politicians just gave our freedom and country away.
Welcome to “Bongo Bongo” land,all those deaths,fighting for freedom and a
country “Fit for heroes”,what an absolute tragedy..Thank you,educated elites,
i hope at least you are content with what you did to this country,because many of
us vehemently detest what you’ve done!!!!…Unforgivable…..
Couldn’t have been in London, I spotted a white kid in the audience.
Oh how true!.
Be careful of politicians. They are your friends when it is to their advantage, but abandon you in your time of need.
Τhеу аrе nеνеr уоur frіеnds, Сhrіs dеаr. Аnd whаt kіnd оf а nаmе іs thаt fоr а nісе Јеwіsh bоу?
Friends can be a very broad description if you so choose to be.
My name denotes my status as the black sheep of the family. The irony of it’s connotations is not lost on me.
Remember Christ was a J3W
Have you got a coat of many colours?.
Off message but I can’t stop chuckling. Vicky and Chris are going to jail. I know that they will meet interesting people and take up different pastimes!
There is a delicious irony in Huhne having made a fortune out of speed cameras.
Never let it be said that the boss doesn’t have a sense of humour.
“Delicious irony” making money from speed cameras, eh?
http://order-order.com/2013/03/07/daming-pryce-emails-point-to-another-libdem-cover-up/#comment-1623650
You are Johann Hari, and I claim, no, I fucking DEMAND my five pounds!
Count yourself lucky I don’t sue your worthless ass, but you probably would have trouble coming up with anything more than five quid!
You must be a banker. Any feeble excuse to steal money is good enough for you.
Yes they will get a prision sentance but it will be suspended, you know it makes sense.
Footage of Greek police putting down protest in Greece the other day:
This was the same put down where teargas was fired into a school, private homes and at a young girls head.
Eurovision 2013:
The difference?
Each one has less strategy than the other. The one on the left has zero.
Ties. Ed’s is a darker blue.
It rather depends under which spectrum of light you are examining it.
I took that into consideration when answering the question and decided that, since these people do not appear to come from Planet Earth, it was unsafe to use our own subjective basis of judgement confined within our spectral range.
Agreed. But on my flat panel, Ed’s looks darker though.
However, also on my flat panel, I have seen that Ed has 1 policy from Andy Burnham: Ban Frosties.
Dave has not yet declared war on popular breakfast cereals, only breakfast TV.
It is acknowledged that you have gracefully changed you statement from one which purports to describe reality to one which describes appearances. That is entirely appropriate in the political context as only the latter state of truth applies.
There must be some statistics which compares the life expectancy of those who consume Frosties with those placed on the Liverpool Care Pathway but, try as I might, I have been unable so far to unearth them. The results might be disturbing but I think we ought to be told.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/9915697/Mr-Cameron-delivers-a-disappointing-message.html
Bread &Butter? Don’t expect jam on it!
I’m a low-tax conservative.
No, it’s no good, I just can’t say that with a straight face.
This’ll be the French Goodyear factory that the US CEO wrote to French government about saying – they were paid top dollar and only bothered to work 3 hours out of any day . French socialism at it’s ‘best’
They’ve shot themselves in the foot in much the same way that huhne’s wife , vicki pryce has done.
If you look into the issue a bit closer you will see that a similar tactic to what has recently played out in Greece is being run in France.
The smears on the state of the French workers in that letter were broadly unfounded and play to stereotype.
Apparently G0ldman S@chs have been recommending that France rduce wages by 30%. This was similar to advice given to Greece.
http://www.insidermediagroup.com/2013/02/anonymous-target-goldman-sachs-proposal-reduce-wages-france-30/
There is something deeply wrong with an investment bank giving this kind of advice to a Sovereign nation if one stops and thinks about it for a moment. Hence the protest above.
Smears? I can advise, give me a call.
If anyone can show a link between Fatson and G0ldman’s that would be awesome. Alas, I do not think the fat one is that well connected.
+++Laugh+++ twatson linked to economics and a bank? He wouldn;t understand either.
Burn zee rubberr.
I love folding. It’s what I was born to do.
I hope you throw in the towel.
Is gordonbrown planning to stand again as mp for kirkcoddy in 2015? His spokesman says he is.
Are the people of kirkcoddy completely loopy? Why would they re-elect this lazy , taxpayer troughing idiot to be their representative?
There is nothing so stupid that people will not do it, e.g.
http://tinyurl.com/c78drhj
Because it is possible someone will eventually do it.
Because we are just the same as Gordon Brown.
Google ”Scottish Rite”
They are Jockanese what do you expect, thick as pigs, but keep the bennies comming Gordon you are the best for twats.
Guido,
I think this article in the guardian proves that the BBC is not independant from the guardian as it should be under its charter and shows it bias
“The allegations, made by US and Iraqi witnesses in the Guardian/BBC documentary”
The allegations, made by US and Iraqi witnesses in the Guardian/BBC documentary, implicate US advisers for the first time in the human rights abuses committed by the commandos. It is also the first time that Petraeus – who last November was forced to resign as director of the CIA after a sex scandal – has been linked through an adviser to this abuse.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/06/pentagon-iraqi-torture-centres-link
From now on we will be known as the “Left One”, you will remember.
I think the problem for labour is that the unpalatable truths of their 13 years in government are becoming ever more public knowledge as time goes on.
liam’s ‘there’s no money left ‘ was the first one to highlight their profligacy and economic incompetence – the electorate still think labour is no good with money.
Then there’s andyburnham’s NHS killing fields disaster which is becoming more prominent as days pass especially since labour want to return it to the scary chaos that it was during 1998 – 2010.
chilcot is due to report in the Autumn and apparently he’s going to call the last labour government liars over their claims for the need to go to war
Then of course there’s the expenses scandal – 4 times as many labour mp’s as any others have been found to falsely claim large sums of money from the taxpayer – NOT honest or trustworthy are they?
Then there’s gordon ! leaching off the taxpayer, not doing his day job for which we are paying him handsomely, whilst he’s globetrotting around the world earning £millions. Hardly a good advertisement for labour is he?!
So we’d vote for them why?
Cyprus is right to reject financial transaction tax, and is also correct that exploitation of its share of East Med oil / gas should cover its current outstanding debts:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/03/07/cyprus-finance-minister-rejects-financial-transaction-tax-as-part-rescue/
Incidentally, if unfamiliar with East Med oil / gas, found back in 2010, check this article:
h**p://www.globalresearch.ca/the-new-mediterranean-oil-and-gas-bonanza/29609
Note: This should reduce the cost of oil and gas across Eurozone when brought on line (production costs are not expected to be prohibitive). Remember this the next time the government spins a line about gas / oil shortages, and the 110 other b/s reasons for hiking home energy costs.
… And Dragh! has zero credbility or authority, in my humble opinion:
http://www.europolitics.info/economy-monetary-affairs/draghi-on-cyprus-and-systemic-risks-art349042-29.html
Greece, Cyprus and !taly all have good reason to leave the Euro. The pressure in Spa!n / Portugal and as is now being realized, France, imply that his days are numbered.
So Vicky and tosser huhne are going to prison,well boo hoo,well in my opinion both of them will get what they deserve at HM pleasure.
Interesting to note that this was noted in lib dumb circles long before it came to court.
Camormong in his speech today was crap and may I add the biggest load of crap ever,he did not mention what the british people want to see and which is the ending of Brittain being ruled by a bunch of EUSSR rabble who do not see that they have lost and big time.
Cammoron is now toast within his own party,as was shown at eastleigh,Davy PR guy people have lost faith in you and the way you have taken your party.
IMHO your speech today was a load of crap with no substance to it whatsoever.
The big issue come 2015 will be immigration and how the country has been flooded with it come 2014 re romania/bulgaria.
You and your cohorts in government of all creeds need to realise as to what the ordinary people of this land think about your policies.
Think long and hard Davy because if you don’t your demise is assured.
We in this country have now had a bellyful of all of your so called politics,time to call a halt to this brand of politics.
The Conservative party did put Dave and Gideon on notice that if the March 20th budg3t isn’t up to scratch, and results are not seen shortly after, they will be looking to replace him.
One hopes they have started that process now, and the budg3t will likely make last years one look good.
Unless they can conjure a boom from somewhere to pick peoples mood up, they have already lost the next GE.
The next question is how realistically would UKIP be able to deliver as the center ground continues to move in their direction.
Article 50 / Lisbon should be the only thing people are talking about now. That is what needs to be invoked in order to renegotiate, and subsequently demand referendum, with the EU.
Hopefully the ongoing Huhne fallout (the story is far from concluded) will have a positive effect on the local council elections coming up in May. UKIP need some presence there in order to compete more evenly on the postal vote playing field.
Note in Pryce’s emails where she speaks about Huhne’s advice on oil to Treasury being bad economics. This does suggest that some of Osborne’s poor performance may have been in part influenced by bad input from Dept. of Energy.
Looking ahead, bi questions are how many by-elections before the end of the year and could UKIP get a seat.
Are you seriously suggesting that the Lib-Dim’s are going to be anything other than routed in the coming elections? Despite Eastleigh they are finished.
Thanks for reminding me to use saffron in my fish pie tomorrow night.
FFS
OK. Now this trial is over, all but the clouting, I want to propose something controversial.
The assessment of drіving standards in the UK is based almost completely on quantitative standards rather than qualitative ones.
This means that someone can lose their lіcence for drіving at 35mph in a 30 mph area in circumstances when it is perfectly safe to do so whereas someone else can kіll a pedestrian, maybe a child, when drіving at 18mph though committing an error. There are many examples of this but speaking on a mobile phone is one. One would be shocked if the extent of the near misses in this category were to be known but there are no statistics. No statistics means no problem, right? Wrong!
Chief Constables come on the television and blithely state speed kills. Well no it doesn’t! If it did, then simply alter all speed limits to zero mph and there would be no more accidents (in theory – in practice there probably would be.) Inappropriate speed can kill.
It is the error that kills.
There are no machines that measure error save for those which detect when a drіver disobeys a light signal. They are nearly all obsessed with speed. No current machine can detect white line drіvers. Nor those who veer to the right in order to turn left (or vice versa), often without an indication. Nor those who park in a dangerous place. Nor those who change lanes without looking in the rear mirror and indicating. There are so many of these bad drіvіng habits which, unless they are by some remote chance witnessed by a police officer, are completely immune from any censure.
But it is always the speed infringement that takes precedence. I expect that there will be many who disagree with what I say and who will produce anecdotal evidence to shout me down. But look at the circumstances minutely of most of these cases and you will find that there is nearly always a misjudgement at the core of them.
It must be very irritating when you post something saying that it is controversial, and yet an hour later nobody has responded (save this response which rather mocks you). Not even Casual Observer can be bothered to respond.
Does it make wonder why you bother. It certainly makes me wonder.
Why do you refer to yourself as a “pseudo-intellectual-tax-exile-arsewipe” in the post at the top of the page?
It must be very irritating when … nobody has responded…
No, on several counts.
The time and the distance covered in decelerating to a complete stop obviously increases the faster one is going, and, should the operator of the vehicle see a danger ahead of him which he wishes to avoid and yet he cannot swerve without making things even worse, then ceteris paribus, he’s better off having gone slower, as he has more time in which to react and less time and distance will have been used up. Obviously the speed trap is the violation most used against operators of vehicles since it does NOT require monitoring by a set of human eyes, as would many of the other egregiousnesses you detail. Simple mathematics tells you how fast a car is going– a set measured distance covered in less time than the speed limit would allow can automatically trigger an electronically-operated camera without any judgement on anyone’s part, instantaneously, without that pesky reaction time lag. (That’s how the field order is determined in motorsport!) The equipment needed to catch those doing anything else other than blowing through red lights (again, a binary he-did-or-he-didn’t event susceptible of capture by photography) would need to be monitored, or the field of vision of cameras and the software required to set up and detect and process events outside the parameters of safe operation would need to be so vastly improved, that both options are probably cost-prohibitive, i.e., should they become so efficient at picking up offenders that no-one gets away with it anymore, after a while the operators would so conform their operation as to make the offences so infrequent that the fines for violation wouldn’t pay for the maintenance of the system. But what nonsense are we saying here? Large costs in setting up and (over-)manning systems and keeping them (somewhat) maintained has never stopped a Government that was bound and determined to do institute some programme. That they haven’t done so, thus far, is fortuity and not design, we therefore conclude, but the effect is the same– roads are haphazardly policed and violators are only intermittently punished, at a rate which seems not to deter.
The key is that an error at high speed will generally have greater consequences than an error at low speed.
The key is the error. If no attempt is made to prevent the error then any speed is dangerous.
Agree entirely.
How many accidents do the police** themselves cause ?
Are there statistics for that ?
An example from a few years ago : stretch of dual carriageway, maybe a mile and a half long – traffic ‘safety’ van (or whatever they call it) half way along – all traffic slows down as the van comes into view, completely choking the left-hand lane while leaving the right-hand lane clear – ripple effect in left-hand lane causing everyone to brake sharply, one after another, just after coming off the motorway – numerous near-misses.
Do you think the police knew what they’d achieved ?
Do you think they even care ?
Really happened – I was at the back end of that lot.
**(i.e. the traffic division of HMRC)
I do hope that’s a cancerous mole on the end of stephen twigg’s nose
Melanie Phillips….Israel firster is now on QT
QT.
Bob Crowe just said He wanted out of the EU, well stone the crowes.
Dimbleby : “Ooh, I didn’t realise we had 3:2 Against Europe”.
Looks like the Beeb failed to imballance it’s guests properly. Bout bl**dy time.
Bob Crow was all for immigration…the sign of a true International Socialist (think Fourth Internationa, Trotskyite or right wing shill).
True believers of Socialist-in-One-Country put the indigenous people of the country first before the foreigners.
However, these socialists are vilified in the MSM and those that own them and fund the libertarian political class that whore for them.
I wonder why?
All forms of socialism are utter shite, end of.
Two Israel firsters on the panel of QT tonight. This is not an uncommon occurrence on QT these days.
These occurrences are totally at odds with chances of this happening when considering the probable frequency of this happening according to the Null Hypothesis.
As a percentage of the total population they only represent 0.5% of the population in the UK.
Imagine seeing two Chinese people appearing on QT, week in and week out, all other things being “equal”…it would seem rather odd…wouldn’t it?
The Lord will deliver them to you, and you must do to them all that I have commanded you. Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the Lord your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you.
Not if Chinese had been in this country for hundreds of years, played a significant part in the development of modern Britain, were proportionately more successful in our society than other cultures, and had a significantly higher representation in the media and politics.
Wow…the BBC’s handpicked audience on NN tonight are certainly 100% lefties!
Impartiality is in their genes…what a fucking joke!
Time to privatise the Beeb.
Just a thought about Conservative Party strategy: Using the principle that there is nearly always an advantage to be had out of adversity, if one can find it, coupled with the fact that being in a coalition limits the options that one can pursue without unsettling the pact, maybe the following option may be a runner:
The coalition limps on to 2015, always threatening to tear itself apart but never quite getting there as the thoughts of returning to standard MP’s pay proves too big an obstacle for the LibDems (a reason to allow them undue representation BTW.)
Then at some crucial stage before the General Election, the Conservatives announce a huge cut in taxes, based on Laffer curve principles, a minimum of £12,000 in earnings before tax cuts in and maybe a bonfire of controls all coupled together with the in/out EU vote, all announced without prior fanfare, might that not be sufficient to pull an election cat out of the bag?
The one problem is how to deal with UKIP. Ignoring them will not deliver the result that the Conservatives wish.
The LibDems are playing into the Conservative’s hands by blocking many of these measures now.
Why don’t you write your own blog rather than infect this one. Even 8illy Kebab has the decency to stop posting in his preferred name and to try and disguise himself.
But no one would believe them.
Sad but true.
Cameron has totally destroyed his credibility. The sooner he’s chucked out of the party he’s chosen to infect the better.
I was really surprised that the UKIP woman on QT joined in with the Labour mantra (with applause from the Lefties in the audience) that the Tories have been in power for three years and can’t keep blaming Labour for the economic damage they caused.
We will be dealing with Labour’s wrecking of the economy for twenty years more. Such was the depths of the recession, which started in 2002 when Brown started building some serious debt – that was long before the banking crisis, that economists said ANY growth would be almost impossible.
She was the one that criticised the Tories for trying to reform the National Death Service, and said criticism of O’Farrell for wishing Thatcher dead was puerile.
She sounds like a lefty Trojan Horse.
Yes UKIP has its attractions, but if she is typical, buyer beware.
“We will be dealing with Labour’s wrecking of the economy for twenty years more”
20? Blimey, I wish I had your optimism. How about 50?
UKIP are in competition with the Tories.
If she can get the lefties clapping, and that was a fair comment on the economic issue, then more votes from Labour -> UKIP.
As long as UKIP does not start talking about expanding benefits / government and providing one way air tickets from random 3rd world nations to Tooting, they are fine.
Most of the core Conservative party would be in agreement with UKIP on the economy issue as they know that Osborne screwed it up over the past few years. Labour left a mess, but that the UK is in triple dip recession absent a World War is inexcusable.
As Farage has said, there are still a few nutters that the party inherited. However, it’s shocking that UKIP has allowed this one to represent them on QT.
With that sort of nonsense she’ll have lost more potential Tory votes than gained potential Labour votes.
To suggest that the joint effects of Labours 13 years of trashing the economy and the past four years of ongoing global financial crisis could be fixed in less than three years is at best naive, at worst idiotic. We are still suffering from high government spending as a result of many ruinous policies and commitments made by Labour. Whatever mistakes the Coalition has made, our economic policies have ensured that the UK pays only around 2% interest on its debt rather than the potentially ruinous 5% being paid by many others.
(PS: Wars tend to fix recessions!)
None are suggesting that the economy could have been fixed in 3 years.
What is inexcusable is the coalitions refusal to make even the vaguest contact with reality by cutting public spending and reducing the tax burden that is stifling the economy.
Add to that the coalitions dangerous fantasy politics, of a ‘green’ economy fuelled by f**king windmills and expensive to unaffordable energy prices and you have a self fulfilling economic disaster in the making.
More succinctly: “Never let a crisis go to waste.”
So people, to keep you up to date with happenings in the Department, Alan Johnson making a complete c@@t of himself on Daily Politics cheered the leaders up a little.
Mark Harper is sticking doggedly to the line of talking only of NET migration figures, a complete con of course as the true number entering the country is half a million a year conservatively, pun not intended.
Everyone has been told to talk only of net figures, they are continuing to be shit scared of the present and coming onslaught. Large supplies of elastoplast have arrived to cover things up for the next eighteen months.
Oh yes, someone brought up a video of some Romanians thieving blatantly and has been suspended for undermining team spirit, more like showing reality.
For Bulgaria and Romania read Roma and for Poles read non-Christian and non-white.
Nobody on QT would call a sp*de a sp*de.
“Everyone has been told to talk only of net figures”
+1. This gets right on my tits. If 10 million come in, and 10.1 million of us got the fuck out because of the 10 million who came in, viola! the government has ‘cured’ immigration. It’s ‘reduced’ to less than zero.
We’re all familiar with Labour’s political lies. Cameron needs to wake up and realise we don’t fall for them any more. They don’t work.
Makes no difference whether Dave’s awake or not – he’s part of the problem.
Cameron is a Fabian socialist and as such is an extremely dangerous man.
Just heard that chavs are about to be embalmed and put on public display. This is absolutely disgraceful.
It would be a bit ghoulish, what with them already being on public display and embalming their livers with White Lightning.
Wouldn’t it be better to douse them all in petrol and simply set them on fire?
Not very eco-friendly, I know, but..
One is right-handed and one is left-handed but both are wankers.
So according to the BBC Vince Cable and his wife and Nick Clegg’s wife Miriam , discussed Huhne and Pryce’s speeding escapade as far back as 2010 with her over dinner
Yet now they all seem to suffer from the same strain of memory loss as Nick Clegg and Vince suffered from over Rennard, , i wonder what else have they all forgotten that they will eventually be forced to recall?
“i wonder what else have they all forgotten that they will eventually be forced to recall?”
Probably their 2010 Election Manifesto, but.. it must be said, all parties seem to forget (or rather bin) those as soon as the election is over.
The fact that the likes of Clegg, Cameron and Miliband can reach the top of the game in politics really does say a great deal. Honestly, out of 60-odd million people are these fifth-raters and their fifth-rate, bland, meaningless soundbites the best we can come up with?
A question I keep asking myself. The only answer I can come up with is this.
Of course there are millions of more able people, more honest, better leaders. Some will oerk their way up to being CEOs of profitable companies, others will have scorned wealth and work for the good of others. And sometimes a young person possessed of such talents will think ‘I want to use my talent in a way that will make a difference. I’ll go into politics.’
So they do, and what do they find? Years at the bottom of the heap, licking envelopes. And, if they lick other things than envelopes, after a while they may be offered a chance to stand as a councillor. And if they win, there are years attending meetings of blithering stupidity listening to idiots spouting rubbish and having to sit idly while their superiors go on holidays at public expense and close the public library and swimming pool to pay for it.
And if they can win favour by any means fair or foul, what’s the prize? An unwinnable seat. They work their arses off in a pointless struggle, and lose as badly as if they had done nothing.
After several elections, if they sleep with the right people, they might get a winnable seat, and even win it. And they find themselves as unregarded backbench MPs, used only as lobby fodder. If they are decent people they will work their arses off again looking after their constituents, and will get plenty of kicks and few thanks. But they have no political power at all.
Finally, by sucking up to the powerful, by threats, by blackmail, and by sheer chance, they may get some kind of ministerial post. And they are still used and abused, and dropped in the next reshuffle.
The only compensation for this is that, when you become an MP, you get a generous salary, heavily subsidised food and drink (and a resulting weight problem) and a practically bottomless system of expenses claims. You still don’t have any chance to do the good things you wanted to do when you started, but you are now exposed to the temptation to be vastly corrupt. No wonder they forget their ideals and take the fat second prize.
So the system for climbing the political ladder is one that intrinsically corrupts people. Even the earliest stages of advancement require chicanery, and by the time you reach the upper stages you are almost bound to have lost your soul.
Also, advancement calls for special talents — in particular, those of the PR man. But these talents are worthless when you are in office. This is how a fifth-rate PR hound such as Cameron greased his way to the top and, when he got there, didn’t have a clue how to govern a country, because this skill had not been required or examined at any time on his way up.
Meanwhile, honest people who thought it would be good to go into politics will have been so disgusted by what they had to do to make progress that they will have bailed out. So, by and large, only the bad make it to the top.
Yes, there are MPs who have kept their souls and their honesty intact. But they are very much in the minority.
In the case of Cameron I would check his pedigree.
There is a bit more to it than at first meets the eye, in some cases.
I fancy a hack in the hayloft and I’ve got the bit between my teeth.
Horsing about is in my DNA, you know.
Today a white girl was stabbed by a black man on a bus in Birmingham.
We won’t mention that the man was black, of course.
We will remind you every year about Stephen Lawrence though.
This is one fucked up country.
Delighted to have been able to oblige.
Would you like to know the colour of the bus ?
Not completely off topic, this from House of Lords back in 2009 is worth a read:
HoL Debate – Taxation: Offshore Financial Centres
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200809/ldhansrd/text/90326-0002.htm
The problems in global finance were spoken about, and The Turner review was mentioned:
“it is important to recognise that the role of offshore financial centres was not central in the origins of the current crisis … And many of the problems arose from the inadequate regulation of the trading activities of banks operating through onshore legal entities in major financial centres such as London or New York”.
(My emphasis)
Lord O speaks on issue of B@rclays tax evasion in column of 772, and there is much interesting discussion about Brown.
Project Brontos, which is mentioned, involved the rescue of Monte dei paschi , the bank which had an execute commit suicide by jumping the other day.
h**p://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/08/business/global/official-from-monte-dei-paschi-di-siena-bank-is-found-dead.html?_r=0
The debate was pre the public LIBOR scandal, and B@rclays deferred prosecution for trading with the enemy of 2010.
h**p://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-05/b@rclays-deferred-prosecution-eu-bofa-compliance.html
The ‘cheap question’ in the debate relates to M!chael Br0wn, who got 7 years in May last year (2012) for various offences:
h**p://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/25/lib-dem-fugitive-dog-medicine
Clegg was refused to repay the GBP 2.4m donation the party received from M!chael Br0wn, even after it was proven to have sourced from stolen funds, as it had been ‘received in good faith’.
There is nothing about Clegg that is good.As for faith he’s an atheist so shouting out good faith is his usual lies.
I wish you would stop posting interesting stuff. I’m depressed enough.
Be like Guido & post endless fluff. I particularly liked the crap stuff of chukka singing with no comments allowed.What the fuck was that about?
Talking of crap This Week was utterly pathetic.Stilted & brainless.Cheeky Girls & Nige.Dear God.
And countless references to “Justin Bieber”, ffs!
Still, Portillo did rip Johnson a new one over Nicholson and the NDS.
Bieber faints at his concert and needs oxygen– dear me, the world is coming to an end! How shall we cope?
Anyway, that’s what Will Smith is in town for; his son is somehow involved with the Biebmeister’s tour. He decides to do Chuka a favour and help the bruvva to get some street cred. Guido wants to take the piss outta Umunna; not Smith, who could kick up a row over some British blogger “inviting racial abuse” against him. Guido might relish the publicity it could engender, but once the writs start flying, ermmm, maybe not so much, then, not over something as insubstantial as this. So, just post the vid, and let it sp*eak for itself, without all us chuckleheads having our usual “vile, racist, hate-spewing” fine old time. Hence, no comments.
Will Sm!th is widely regarded as being one of the good guys. There is no reason to believe otherwise.
If comments had been left on, the hate filled left would have been on here spewing their false flag right on racism, and then labeling it right wing racism.
Chucka cannot dance.
‘… chukka singing with no comments allowed.What the fuck was that about?’
Could it be connected with the fact that Will Smith is very rich and has hot and cold running lawyers in every room?
These are not ordinary lawyers – these are USR lawyers.
@UH: Sorry, just following up on some stuff which should logically fall out from the Pryce-Huhne takedown. To me this is endless fluff, it is Hansard.
The Lib Dem funding issue over that GBP 2.4m should be brought up again one thinks.
That debate by the way has some classic criticism of Brown which is not dissimilar to what appears in the posts here. The issue of ‘moral tax’ also appeared in there (think Hodge Bodge / PAC), with some qualifiers.
UK was following others. Reason tax has been hot issue is two fold:
i) UK was following Germany / US. Germany became aware of massive tax fraud in Europe (Lichtenstien / Switzerland etc.), and US had crack down as Obama wanted to champion his failed ‘Stop Tax Haven Abuse Act’ which failed to pass before he became president.
ii) As stated in that debate by Baroness N0akes in Column 781 @ 12:40pm :
‘The Prime Minister has jumped on to the tax haven bandwagon precisely because it is a good way of diverting attention from the real problems that our economy faces and from his own role in creating them. To use the words of Mr Mart!n Brought0n, the President of the CB!, this is a “red herring”.’
- Sound familiar to now ?
The German government officially became aware of tax evasion problem when a whistle blower, He!nrich K!eber, in Lichtenstein sold a copy of secret tax data (several DVDs worth) to the Bundesnachrichtend!enst (German Foreign Intelligence) back in 2008:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/liechtenstein-s-shadowy-informant-tax-whistleblower-sold-data-to-the-us-a-537640.html
That story is very interesting, and when seen in context far from depressing
I would suggest, from that Spiegel piece, the divergence in the UKs fortunes was when HMRC failed to act first on K!ebers data.
That pushed K!eber to the BND, and happened under Blairs watch.
Why is that significant ?
Well it destroyed some of Blairs / UK credibility in the eyes of Merkel.
More importantly, because the UK seemed to be supportive of tax evasion, something which Obama is clearly not, when Obama got into office it is no wonder that the US-UK relationship cooled somewhat.
One hopes that none of K!eber data ended up in Argent!ne hands. This is unlikely, but is another possible barrel over which Kirchner may be trying to hold Cameron on the Falkl@nds issue.
Given the questionable tax affairs of some on todays PAC, the question as to what held up HMRC back then is not such a tiny tiny tiny detail to be forgotten.
You are SC and I claim my five pounds
It is interesting. I’ll look at your post again tomorrow.
Look at the time! What are you doing still up? What an I doing still up?
Nite,nite.
Just wrapping up.
A final link for you, if interested in the other aspect from that debate on state of london: The Turner Review
If you caught some of the previous stuff posted up here over the past few weeks on the insanity of Light Touch regulation, where that idea came from, why was diametrically opposite to the review findings of Kane when he analysed what happened in the S+L mess of the 80s in the US, you’ll get why it is pertinent and important.
Renaming the FSA to the Financial Conduct Authority is yet another diversionary ducking of the real issue methinks, unless of course the enforcement is going to be brought in and SFO funding brought to where it should be.
Have a good evening
Fuck off SC
@CO
Adair Turner is not the solution but part of the problem. He took over the FSA when the damage had already been done but still failed to grasp that the fundamental problem was not one of technical detail, important though that is, but of a complete lack of basic ethical standards.
This lack of perception had the effect of turning the problem from being a very simple and obvious one, understandable to the layman, into a fearsomely complicated one which only technocrats may be perceived to understand.
The result of this is that the real problem has not even been grasped now. If a problem is not identified properly, no solution offered will be satisfactory.
Turner was of course appointed by Brown (with a tokenistic veil of being a Treasury appointment.)
Antony Jenkins of Barclays is now way out in front of the field as, almost alone, he recognises the true nature of the failings in the system. He is bringing back a regimen, the absence of which was the reason that I left the industry in 2000.
Hi @SC: Agree that Turner is not ‘the’ solution, but the HoL debate did lift a key paragraph from his report as I indicated in the 1:09AM post above.
That is really the only part of the report which is relevant, and covers off the primary factor which has accelerated the demise of London as a trading hub, and generator of wealth for the UK.
Agree with you summary of Adair.
Ne’er mind, eh – after all, we have Dave in charge
And he may be as much use as rancid marge
But we always can fall back on Little Ed
Between them, ain’t they got some global street cred?
They’re so busy replacing real Brits by immigration
Why would nutjob Korea bother bombing “our” nation?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2288445/Kim-Jong-Un-U-S-scoffs-North-Koreas-threat-thermonuclear-war.html
Ten million pounds for Afghanistan to help its mining sector, after the usual cut has been taken by UK/Afghan corrupt officials of course. And when our coal industry asks for assistance there is nothing left, no money available and so 650 jobs are lost. That is why Cameron and his freak show are doomed, they shower billions in foreign aid around the world even as our own job creating industries are given the bums rush.
Even the usually oblivious media are now stating that Cameron is a dead man walking, his dire speech yesterday was a Monty Python parody of a joke about a magic money tree and possibly the worst speech since a gurning grinning mental case McRuin stuttered his way through ‘I saved the world with my vision’ speech at an infants school. Wallace & Grommet must be extremely pleased.
Cameron looked bloated and ill and on the cusp of realising he is finished, see ya around Dave, maybe he can get a job in Brussels.
Cameron is a traitor. Get over it.
Hey, Frankie, fancy a quickie ?
http://ind.pn/13IBmHJ
Maude is common purpose. The firms he awarded likely are to.
Do what we say, not as we do
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/9916416/EU-suggests-compulsory-pay-as-you-throw-taxes-to-tackle-plastic-waste.html
David Cameron remains the Conservatives’ most popular figure by far.
(How anyone still falls for that line I’ll never know.)
Good morning. I’m blogging already. This can’t be right.
Guido, I am absolutely, definitely, positively, unquestionably, no strings attached, beyond any doubt, unconditionally, in love with you.♥
My first thoughts were “well that’s another days GDP dropped, they must think we are bloody idiots!” the usual bullshit marketing of professional politics, backdrop of factory floor, great idea NOT.. they should have had their cozy little chats in the closed down Transit factory, that would have been a more realistic and honest image. “Look folks.. we sold out to the EU, the production is in Turkey now, but hey we are talking about, thinking of considering, planning on having a meeting on the control of immigration”
Bullshit merchants.
FAILING TO REPORT A CRIME IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE LIB_DEMS
I failed to report that I failed to report a crime.
Yah boo sucks !
Brian Paddock just admitted he knows so many friends who have pulled the Huhne 3 Points on the license trick. Has he reported these crimes yet?
Brian’s a back seat driver.
Could somebody post a clip of McMental’s anual visit to the HoC? I could do with a laugh.
Update on our economic plan
The Prime Minister spoke today in West Yorkshire about the UK Government’s approach to the economy. Here’s what he had to say:
“We have no Plan B,because it’s the right thing to do”
I have no plan at all. I just do whatever Len tells me to.
boring :0)
Takes one to know one.
If the economy does not grow but we give away 0.7% of GDP, that inevitably means it will contract.
Will we ever trust a career politician again?.. please select your answer by ticking the appropriate selection [no]
[fuck no] [not on your nelly]
[you're having a laugh]
One’s a stupid twat and so is the other
Sooner or later the auctioneers labels will be left on the machine tools.