March 6th, 2013

Order of the OTT: Maguire on Cam the Baby Killer

Hyperbole of biblical proportions from Kevin Maguire today. Parroting out Labour’s “bedroom tax” untruth is one thing, but Maguire then goes on to compare the PM to King Herod:

“The brutal indifference towards the bedroom tax indelibly shames ConDem Ministers. The blunderbuss approach of slashing the benefits of those with spare rooms combines the unfairness of the poll tax with a cruel twist of King Herod.”

Slaughtering first borns versus ending state sponsored spare rooms. Calm down dear…


  1. 1
    Rob says:

    What were his thoughts on the NHS actually killing people?

  2. 2
    Steve Miliband says:

    I want my £1k p/a back

  3. 3
    Toilets trying to be litererry says:

    Guido my old friend

    I just said this to show that I have deep historical nowledge

    And that I can be litererry like Polly Twaddle my working class hero

  4. 4
    King Herod says:

    Hoy…Maguire…leave me out of this.

  5. 5
    Alvin says:

    Kevin Maguire is a TIT. Typical left wing exaggerator. His flock on twitter attacks anyone who disagrees with him. He loves the attention which is why I wont be commenting anymore about him.

  6. 6
    Dr Lecter says:

    Liebour motto – Never Knowingly Understated.

  7. 7
    Toilet cleaner says:

    Does Toilets have a ghost writer?

    It is far too sophisticated a statement for him to have made

  8. 8
    Britain the ruined country says:

    I thought cottages were what Maguire was more interested in.

  9. 9
    An NHS Manager says:

    There are people involved? Who knew?

  10. 10
    Anonymous says:

    Forgive him. Maguire is a likable guy, just not very bright.

  11. 11
    Me says:

    David should know that when you start the ball rolling on something big, you would normally dig out the first turf, or plant the first tree. What did David do when he went after the disabled? Yeah thats right he got rid of his own. Bit overkill if you ask me.

  12. 12
    Actually went to school and learnt something says:

    Herod didn’t order the killing of the first-born. That was the tenth plague.
    Herod allegedly ordered the killing of all children under two in Bethlehem.

  13. 13
    William Hague says:

    Look those armoured vehicles we are giving to the Syrian opposition won’t pay for themselves you know.

  14. 14
    Owin Jones says:

    Is the PM going to stop kidding + just come clean that he hates old sick vulnerable disabled people and is using economics for eugenics?

  15. 15
    An NHS bean counter says:

    I can’t see them in the spreadsheet. Do they have a nominal code?

  16. 16

    If horse meat can cause you thrombosis
    And reading t’Mirror can give you neurosis,
    Is Kevin a liar
    Whose pants are on fire?
    Or just in a Maguirian state of psychosis?

  17. 17
    Call me Dave says:

    Wasn’t Annie Lennox in the Eugenics?

  18. 18
    .. says:

    Bring on the toilet tax!

  19. 19
    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    Ah bless, is no one taking any notice of you Maguire? Has Owen Jones taken over your mantle as a complete labour arsewipe? Are you past your last snide left wing for the sake of it comment.

  20. 20
    Bob the Builder says:

    All Council house tenancies should be for a five year fixed term maximum.

  21. 21
    Anonymous says:

    We should stop all housing benefits, that would solve the argument.

  22. 22
    Sir Bumley Foghorn MP (Much Ranting in the Shires) says:

    King Herod? Wasn’t he that oily oik from the Lower 5th that we used to pimp to Johnson at Eton?

  23. 23
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    The bedroom is a tax. Sort of.

    Don’t lose sight of the fact that benefits are paid out of taxes – i.e. are a refund of taxes.

    If the ‘benefit’ refund is stopped, the tax still remains.

    Even the unemployed pay taxes – VAT, road fund tax, etc, and as taxes are not allocated on the basis of origin but are simply pooled at the treasury, any removal of a ‘benefit’ IS, effectively, a tax increase.

  24. 24

    Cut the poor man some slack Guido.
    Poor Kev’s just lost a hero of the socialist republic and true personal friend.

    R.I.P. Hugh Chav.

  25. 25
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    * Typo correction:

    “The ‘bedroom TAX’ is a tax.”

  26. 26
    rebekah aka nellnewman says:

    If I remember rightly Herod order the killing of all the male children.

  27. 27
    Sir Bumley Foghorn MP (Much Ranting in the Shires) says:

    One small clue. If you lift the edge of Fabricant’s wig you will find 666 tattoed there. Is this the number you seek?

  28. 28
    The incoming hordes says:

    We see no issue with this, we are used to 24 being in a bedroom.

  29. 29
    Typical Product Of The Current Edjimakayshunal System says:

    No, ‘at wuz Moggrit Fatcha, an’ it wuz Britain.
    A’ least ‘at’s wot I learned.

  30. 30
    CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

    No, it’s a fall in subsidy.

  31. 31

    That’s LieBores tactics – just like the other Socialists during Action T4 which started in 1939.

  32. 32
    Abu-Qatar says:

    Who cares as long as I get my £1 million a year benefits I have Gods work to do.

  33. 33
    SP4BS says:

    Clearly if anyone is worried about “bedroom tax”, they just need to have another kid.

  34. 34

    Your e key seems to have become swapped with your h key in that last line, Bill.

  35. 35
    Jimmy says:

    To be fair, Herod introduced brutal and irrational policies in order to see off a potential challenge to his leadership. It is the involvement of three wise men where the analogy I think breaks down.

  36. 36

    I’m not sure its taught that way anymore.
    Today’s scripture teachings mostly concentrate on the donkey, the Easter bunny, making crowns and a coat of many colours.

    Obviously that’s outside of London. In London I don’t think any of those get a look in.

  37. 37
    Nick says:

    So that’s a tax on everyone in the country who doesn’t receive any Housing Benefit at all, then?

  38. 38
    CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

    Leftist Fabians invented Eugenics. Then they decided to do even worse and invented dysgenics AKA the welfare state where you get rewarded the more useless you are to society.

  39. 39

    Two toilets Prescott won’t appreciate that.

  40. 40
    CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

    Funded by punishing people for being more useful to society.

  41. 41
    CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

    Well it is the anniversary of uber-lefty Stalin’s death today.

  42. 42
    AntiLeftoid says:

    Arggghh the Maguire €unt, I wish the hack would go off and live in a Commie dictatorship for a few years and report on it in his own inimitable style, then I’d love to see him come back and still express his love for all things leftist.

  43. 43

    May I join you?

    There was a Trot frother, McKenzie,
    Who’d whip himself up to a frenzie
    He’d lambast the Tories
    Without checking his stories
    But shouted “Bollocks!” and hit the return key!

  44. 44
  45. 45
    Dave the destroyer says:

    Yes Chav was a nasty piece of work kicked out all the greedy foreign companies bleeding the people dry wont happen here ‘British’ Gas Iv OKd them for another 30% increase that should get rid of a few more elderly wasters. I mean they paid their taxes why are they hanging on draining money from the NHS. Heil to Komadant Nicholson.

  46. 46
    Angela Eagle says:

    And a Virgin

  47. 47
    Annie Lennox says:

    No, that would have been the Eurythmics.
    But, as long as we’re on the subject of people being over the top– I’M the one who saved the world, not Gordon Brown:

  48. 48
    Y fronts says:


    No doubt as smoothe as a ladyboy s backside as well

  49. 49
    Common Purpose is evil says:

    Dave has come clean that he hates old elderly sick people that’s who he supports that slug Nicholson.

  50. 50
    Owin Jones says:

    Cameron: “They have nothing to offer but debt, debt and more debt” – which is exactly what this Conservative led coalition’s government’s austerity has given us.

  51. 51
    Fuck Labour says:

    Don’t the left realise how utterly insane they look when they resort to this kind of lunatic hyperbole?

    We’ve had Polly’s “final solution” regarding housing benefit cap and other comparisons to Nazi Germany, and now this. Pathetic.

  52. 52
    Dave the destroyer says:

    Yes get them out so we can house them nice Romanians and Bulgarians arriving in their millions end of the year. Any ye thought the was no benefit been a member of the EU.

  53. 53

    All this nasty stuff directed at tax avoiders is a bit worrying, I think I will be spending a little less time on here and a little more time in town having coffee with friends.

  54. 54
    the savant10.4 highway patrol says:

    Bat out of Hell says :

    No you were right fitst time Quiet Bat . The BEDROOM is a TAX …..Why d’you think people get married ? It’s a contract . Most women and some men supply the nookie in return for which the other party lives a life of relative luxury and minimal work ( i e housework ) .

    Bin that way since beginnin’ of time dear boy .

  55. 55
    Anonymous says:

    That’s actually not a bad idea, then apply a simple earnings/savings assessment to see if you’re still entitled after that period.

    This smacks of common sense, so I guess we won’t see this idea come to fruition – that’s a shame.

  56. 56
    CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

    If Falls in benefits = tax increases then
    Rises in Benefits = Tax decreases.
    Certifiable nonsense.

    It’s purely a fall in subsidy.

  57. 57
    the savant10.4 highway patrol says:

    Are you one of the United Arab Emirates Abu-Qatar ?

    Sort of like …. Abu Dhabi ?

    It’s just that I’ve never heard you mentioned in despatches . Perhaps you are too insignificant to be listed . Either that or you have no oil/gas reserves.

  58. 58
  59. 59
    Historian says:

    Herod was circumcised

    Toilets will get into trouble with th zioloonies for this

  60. 60

    A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

  61. 61
    the savant10.4 highway patrol says:

    Otherwise known euphemistically by wise men of the time as

    The Herodian Childcare Programme

    ( or should that be Progrom )?

  62. 62
    Yvonne from the Colliers Arms Clydach says:

    Mr Cameron is dead right about this bedroom tax .

    It should have been done years ago .

    We are all in this mess together . If you struggled to pay a mortgage and you had your house repossessed you lose out right .

    Si if you have a Council House and cant pay the rent its only fair you should lose out too .

    Mr Cameron is spot on .

  63. 63
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    Tax is Government income. If it refunds the tax as a ‘benefit’, it is effectively a tax reduction.

    You are falling into the trap of thinking that Governments give out money, as ‘benefits’.

    Governments only know how to take money off people.

  64. 64
    the jimmy savile experience says:

    we’re a ragtag bunch of sex offenders who want to honour the memory of jimmy savile by renting spare bedrooms from single mum’s who receive state benefits.

  65. 65
    BBC Brainwashing, aka BBC News and Current Affairs Department says:

    Just to let you know that we will be devoting 8 hours of live coverage to the state funeral of Comrade Hugo Chavez, with a running commentary by David Dimbleby, Ken Livingstone, Kevin Maguire and our very own Marxist of the Airwaves, Owen Jones.

  66. 66
    pissed off voter says:

    O/T Ref the Nicholson shambles, why is Milliband not doing his usual and calling for a public enquiry?

    Is it perhaps because a public enquiry is warranted but might reflect very badly on several incompetent labour ex-health ministers?

  67. 67
    Jimmy says:

    You are entirely right to point out that however mean the government is being to the poor, they are not actually gassing them.

  68. 68
    Polly from her Villa in Umbridge says:

    Ah yes the final solution

  69. 69
    Lost in Clacton says:

    We all have a human right to be treated equally.

  70. 70
    Fuck Labour says:

    The only ones who should be killed are Labour c-unts like Burnham and Maguire.

  71. 71
    Fuck Labour says:

    And let’s not forget poverty and the gap between rich and poor widened under Labour.

  72. 72
    Ed Millibland says:

    I called for a stewards enquiry into the horse meat scandal

  73. 73
    Jimmy says:

    Well I think it’s only fair to give righties credit where credit’s due.

  74. 74
    friends of pete doherty says:

    got a spare room to rent? plenty of portable electric items? don’t have a problem with randomly scattered dirty needles? then give us a call! we’re rent your spare room in a shot and have you licking the pipe in no time!

  75. 75
    John Prescott says:

    Tracey says I’m always taxing in the bedroom.

  76. 76
    Anne D Burnbum says:

    Kevins doing a great job for labour.Leave him alone.He never mentions the 1200 deaths on my watch in Mid Staffs.Next scandal please.”Budgie droppings found in bird cage”would be a good one.I must call the BEEB.

  77. 77
    the savant10.4 highway patrol says:

    Bodge the Builder says :

    Yeh right on …then we can go in and bodge ‘em good and sell’em off to them Sloane Rangers as gentrified abodes in upcoming areas and make a fortune and sod off to Bermuda where we can set up a Trust thingamy in which to shield all our untaxed gains .

    ( at least that’s wot me accountant says ) .

  78. 78
    Jimmy says:

    That does tend to happen during periods of rapid economic growth. Obviously that’s less of a problem now.

  79. 79
    Fuck Labour says:

    When he was a student, David Nicholson was a member of the Communist Party. Well, he’s certainly succeeded in bringing communism into the NHS.

  80. 80
    Fuck Labour says:

    Let’s not forget Patricia Hewitt and Alan Postie Johnson who also have blood on their hands.

  81. 81
    Gaddaffi's chauffeur says:

    If you do not mind I would rather wait until we have finished with Chilcot.

  82. 82
    Fuck Labour says:

    Mandelson: “I’m perfectly relaxed about people becoming filthy rich”.

    13 years – no tax on banks.

    Dropped 10p tax rate.

    Raised pensions by 40p a week.

  83. 83
    the savant10.4 highway patrol says:

    Well we’ve already stopped all ( newbuild ) hoising so why is anybody getting housing BENEFIT ??

  84. 84
    Hedgie of Hampstead says:

    Looking around Hampstead Primrose Hill and other parts of London

    It seems that these has never been such a concentration of wealth

    The rest of the country may collapse but with all our illgotten millions now offshore

    We will always be fine and get some useful idiot like Eddy M to con the people

  85. 85
    tens pints of wife beater says:

    yes i think you get the idea now, oui?

  86. 86
    David Chaytor says:

    I note that you denied me thrice the other day. Has the cock crowed?

  87. 87
    Sir William Wade says:

    Labour is winning the propaganda war by following its main rule: think of a catchy phrase, however mendacious, and repeat it over and over again until it sticks in people’s heads.

    The Tories could have done this if they’d had the wit: keep referring to “the Labour recession” or “Labour’s banking crisis”.

  88. 88
    John Prescott says:

    ‘ey, lad. You should smell the lav after I’ve had two extra large chilli burritos. It could peel paint, I tell thee.

  89. 89
    A Bank - the one that didnt get any cheap gold says:

    Are you joking. You want credit.

    HA HA HA

  90. 90
    Edinburgh junkie shitty moralising to others. says:

    What is the Mirror for? Wiping your arse.

  91. 91
    Chief Wiggum of Humberside says:


    ‘dropping the kids at the pool’

    ‘releasing a hostage’

  92. 92
    the savant10.4 highway patrol says:

    Is that what you are then Angie ??

    I believe you , thousands wouldn’t .

    ( It all centrres around hymen rupture and whether this actually happens in a woman to woman situation ).

    Many trees have been decimated trying to prove one or the other .

  93. 93
    Anne D Burnbum says:

    Thats true F–k Labour.I wore rubber gloves like the ones use putting my mascara on.x

  94. 94
    Call that a rant? This is a rant says:

    The NHS:
    Thousands sent to their deaths in Mengele style termination suites, while Marxist managers and directors looked the other way. The same Marxist managers and directors promoted, for their ‘outstanding contribution to the NHS’.

    Climate Change:
    Thousands perish every winter in this country, mainly the old, poor and vulnerable, because socialist government policy has forced up energy costs to unaffordable levels.
    Meanwhile Scandinavia, central and eastern Europe are bracing themselves for the coldest March since 1985, blizzards and record low temperatures, thanks to ‘Man Made Global Warming’.

    Government Spending:
    Despite 254 tax rises since 2010, the government is still spending billions more than it takes every month, yet insists that we piss money away on useless crap, because of our ‘international committments’. Just who decided what these extravagant ‘committments’ should be, is not clear. One thing is sure, it was not the British people.

    The E Spew:
    We give this rancid club £53 million a day, so they can tell us how we live our lives in this country. Meanwhile our supine ‘government’ fellates this undemocratic institution with a zeal worthy of a $20 crack addict hooker.

    The indications that we are to have new tsunami of economic migrants from the distinctly not first world, south eastern Europe, on top of the existing tsunami of economic migrants from the third world, is greeted with wimpering, trembling assertions, that we are being ‘racist’ when we can see whole communities disintegrating before our eyes as it is, without millions more coming here to seek ‘the free benefit life’.

  95. 95
    Can I ask says:

    Why is he known as ‘toilets’?

  96. 96
    David Cameron says:

    I’d rather hug a hoodie.

  97. 97
    fruitcake says:

    You washing your hands?

  98. 98
    Fuck Labour says:

    I don’t know but my guess would be his writing belongs in one?

  99. 99
    anon. says:

    “British public clueless and their opinion should be ignored”.

  100. 100
    Jimmy says:

    Dear Rant

    It’s called collateral damage, get over it.

  101. 101
    John Prescott says:

    Tracey always has tears in her eyes when she’s with me. That’s how bad my farts are, lad. They’re proper ponging, I tell thee.

  102. 102
    Great British Public says:

    Maybe not but we know a c.unt when we see one.

  103. 103
  104. 104
    Jimmy says:

    That’s as good a summary of the blog as any.

  105. 105
    Gonk III says:

    Especially rapid economic growth fuelled by uncontrolled credit and characterised by overspending and dishonest accounting and failure to prevent the development of exotic and unreal financial vehicles.
    That rapid economic growth.

  106. 106
    Anonymous says:

    I thought that was called an orgy.

  107. 107
    Jimmy says:

    Well at least all that growth malarkey’s in the past now.

  108. 108
    forgotten man says:

    Not a very good comparison to make for a Labour politician as King herod has had a bit of a bad press that he didnt entirely deserve.

    Unlike Labour he used to store surpluses during the good years to enable survival during the bad.

    As Harry Palmer would have said “not a lot of people know that.”

  109. 109
    Tosspot says:

    For those of us who work, this is a justified re alignment of benefits when there is a shortage of social housing. It is interesting to see the Communists winging about Communistic Ideals..

  110. 110
    Gonk III says:

    I can’t wait for another almighty spending spree heralding the end of boom and bust.

  111. 111
    Casual Observer says:

    Have to disagree: Bedroom tax is deceptive propaganda.

    Council tax is based on property value.

    Since properties went up in value under Labour, and no re-banding occurred, a lot of revenue which councils could have received was not. Could that be considered a tax cut ?

    If council tax rebanding occurred now whilst house prices are still up, that could be considered a tax rise, but is not a new tax.

    The truth behind ‘bedroom tax’ is that when Labour cut central funding to local authorities, to prevent local authorities from rebanding properties, pushing up council tax, they decided to subsidize the shortfall by introducing a new benefit for people to cover their shortfalls in meeting council tax.

    This they did to cover their own tracks (central government cuts always lead to magnified costs at the local levels), keep the housing bubble propped up, and to secure votes.

    That the prime recipients of the welfare transfer, and councils who are unwilling to adjust their current levels of spending are primarily Labour wards should not be ignored.

    What government doesn’t want people to figure is that they have been priced out of their homes for a while now by overly inflated local authority spending. The majority of this cost is to support some unnecessary services, but primarily to support local authority pension schemes.

  112. 112
    Gonk III says:

    And at 7 hours 59 minutes we’ll have a contribution from a political prisoner who disagreed with his holiness, just for balance you understand.

  113. 113
    steve smith says:

    I spect he’ll be on breakfast in the morning enlarging on this his latest scare fable. Probably blame last years floods on cam as well

  114. 114
    CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

    I would say that it’s function is “akin to a tax” but not a tax. However means tested benefit withdrawal as income increases is much worse.

    As a Georgist If this is a tax then it’s a sensible tax. I’d liketo see it rolled out further than just benefit addicts.

  115. 115
    CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

    Due to them not collecting the tax, the price of the land went up, soit could be seen as a privately collected form of “tax” as the householder gained with no work done.

  116. 116
    CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

    There’s lots of reasons not to listen to Mehdi Hassan. The above is one of them.

  117. 117
    CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

    Rapid increases in debt are not growth unless it’s paid back. QE shows it isn’t.

    We had rapid increases in debt for nothing. This country went backwards during the Bliar Brown regime.

  118. 118
    Mr Slater's Parrot says:


  119. 119
    Viv says:

    I think you’ll find that was Pilate.

  120. 120
    Viv says:

    Remind me- how much do Boots pay Patricia Hewitt?

  121. 121
    Jimmy says:



  122. 122
    Anonymous says:

    ‘..state sponsored spare rooms..’

    An attack on the poor is hardly unexpected here, but no real social housing has been built for decades, so what the feck do you expect people to live in if they only have 2-3 bed properties to ‘choose’ from even if single…..???????

    Ridiculous dismissive argument against a disgusting tax on the poor…

    What about state subsidised wages through companies paying such crap wages because they can get away with it? And then people being reimbursed by the state through tax credits, but you don’t shout about that. Bloody toffs…!! ;)

  123. 123
    jennie bleargh says:

    when I – who has worked and paid taxes – can have a spare bedroom, maybe I’ll be more generous towards those that don’t work and don’t.

    healthy people out of work shouldn’t live better than people in work – ever. and not every worker has a spare bedroom.

    I thought benefits was to tide you over between jobs? shouldn’t we just limit it to 6 months ans make it more generous?

  124. 124
    Anonymous says:

    It’s hard being a northern leftie when you earn a fortune and live in a huge posh house down south.

  125. 125
    Brown out and pay me damages and then he can go jog up his own arsehole. says:

    Maguires is a scrounging dopey arsewipe. He should do us all a favour and die of cancer.

  126. 126
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Was Maguire having it away with Marina Hyde – when he was at the Gruniad?

  127. 127
    M says:

    Bet Chavez family won’t use the NHS again

  128. 128
    Scocialist think tank says:

    To be fair gas prices are pretty high, and alternative need to be sourced in this age if austerity .
    Are researchers in mid Staffordshire are ahead of the curve in this field.

  129. 129
    obe benwonga says:

    Is it a crime to be a racist?

  130. 130
    NickClegg says:

    Only if you are white.

  131. 131
    Nick Griffin says:

    Not very pleasant was it?.

  132. 132
    Mr Ryan says:

    Who did he fly for?.

  133. 133
    Andy Burnham says:

    Pathway to the future.

  134. 134
    President Assad says:

    You twerp, Amoured vehicles to terrorists, what planet are you on.

  135. 135
    Eric Clapton says:

    You wish!.

  136. 136
    Bojo says:

    That would be MPs then

  137. 137
    A Rackman says:

    As few as that.

  138. 138
    Herr Himmler says:

    Well not yet, but I am sure they will think of more subtle ways to achieve their objective.

  139. 139
    Edwarard 111 says:


  140. 140
    Glynis Kinnock says:

    You arse.

  141. 141
    Ed Balls says:

    Fuckwit, just like Milipede

  142. 142
    Curly says:

    Jimmy, In polite society, we prefer to call it treason against the British public, for which the perpetrators should be called to account – and not just at the court of public opinion either!

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