March 6th, 2013

Join Guido at the YBF Rally, Then Fatboy Slim

Guido is off to parliament to speak at the ultrasound Young Britons’ Foundation rally this evening. Afterwards he is hoping to gatecrash Fatboy Slim’s charity DJ set at the Terrace bar.

Right here, right now – could hardly be more appropriate for YBF…


  1. 1
    jennie bleargh says:

    so, is that Hunt Burnham going to face the noose for his involvement in the execution of 1200 ‘patients’? or were they UKIP supporters and he was just doing what the left does best?

    • 61
      Anonymous says:

      YBF = You’ve Been Framed?

      • 70
        Anonymous says:

        The harrowing diary of a frail neighbour of ‘benefits queen’ Heather Frost today revealed how the jobless mother-of-11 allegedly ‘ruined the last years of her life’.

        Widow Doreen Freeman, 81, who has since died, kept a daily log of the verbal abuse, harassment and vandalism thrown at her by Ms Frost and her unruly offspring.

        In it she claims that the family smashed up her greenhouse with iron bars, burned a soiled mattress outside her property and threw excrement into the garden.

        Her son, Dr James Freeman, 63, a senior university lecturer, decided to release details of the diary to expose Frost’s ‘five-year campaign of terror’ against his mother and after learning the pink-haired benefits claimant was to be built her own purpose built council ‘mansion’.

        Read more:
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        • 82
          Anonymous says:

          A ‘benefits queen’. Yet another fair and balanced comment on this this issue?

        • 146
          Blowing Whistles says:

          Where have all the right minded decent honest people been – we can forget the dirty Politically Corrected monsters in Parliament of all political colours a suborned police and a greedy festering for fees only legal fraternity.

          Yours well and truly disgusted. And btw where were the free press when we needed them during the reign of terror and the politically neuterd opposition?

          They were counting their pounds dollars and shekels in their offshore accounts thats where.

    • 92

      Yes this makes total sense…followed by Fatboy Slim. What kind of bizarre universe did I wake up in?

      • 159
        The wizz says:

        How about you tell us?

      • 271
        A psychiatrist says:

        Have you really woken up or is this an extension of your nightmare? Is this really a universe? Are you totally tonto?

        These are important questions which need to be examined in a lot of depth. I’m afraid that 4 times my usual hourly rate will be required.

  2. 2
    old SHEP says:

  3. 3
    Owin Jones says:

    Chives: The Demonisation of the Smallest Member of the Edible Onion Class.

    • 32
      Jammy Git says:

      Chivers: Better than Hartley’s, not as good as Tiptree. None as good as home made.

    • 273
      Owen's mummy says:

      Owen! Why weren’t you eating your eggy chips rather than writing this. Just wait until you get home from school!

  4. 4
    Tessa Tickles says:

    “could hardly be more appropriate for YBF”

    I don’t think Fatboy Slim is appropriate for a Young Britons’ Foundation. Isn’t he about 90, now? He lives next to a fish market just west of Hove, FFS.

    • 62
      Bollocks to getting a pseudonym says:

      Not as big a phoney as that DJ who’s a white, middle aged, middle class son of a vicar and has that pathetic obsession with getting down wiv da urban yoof.

      • 252
        Gonk says:

        The one who is not in the slightest self-effacing and humorous and gives the impression that he is deadly serious about the LA street patois thing. Him ?

  5. 5
    Anonymous says:

    Fatboy Slim’s real name is Quentin Cook. Say that to him tonight. You’ll get\a result.

    • 15

      I knew he was Norman Cook but never realised he was christened Quentin.

      How dreadfully embarrassing that must be for him, considering where he lived. How embarrassed and embittered he must have been as a kid. Explains a lot.

      (Nothing against the name Quentin btw. Letts is a great journalist. Hogg was a good politician.)

  6. 6
    Learn to Count with Ed Balls says:

    Nine, six, one, twelvety, eleventeen… er… five, lots, a squillion.

    I’ve still got it. Now to go and flush Ed’s head down the toilets until he blubs again.

  7. 7
    The Shamen says:

    Es are good.

  8. 8
    Matt says:

    Gate crashing a charity gig? Stay classy Guido

  9. 9
    David Nicholson says:

    I don’t understand why people are outraged over 1,200 people dying. I’m a communist and I’m proud to have put communism into action, at the same time as bagging myself a trophy wife 22 years my junior who’s whored herself in return for a nice job in the NHS.

    • 12
      One Term Dave says:

      Sounds like just the kind of chap we need on our side.

    • 14
      Nepotists R Us says:

      Its how this country’s been run for centuries. Get over it.

      • 16
        Labour: A wholly owned subsidiary of Unite says:

        And how we’ll keep running it!

        • 150
          Blowing Whistles says:

          Jackson / Bliar / Simpson / Lyons / Maguire / Crow / Reign of Terror Cover ups / Tory’s neutered / Journos in the pockets of the unions & corporations who couldn’t give a **** about thepublicbut pretended to / etc …

    • 17
      Tessa Tickles says:

      How come he hasn’t been done for corporate manslaughter? I used to run a company, and I’m pretty sure if I’d killed 1,200 of my customers, plod would be asking me one or two questions. I sure as hell wouldn’t be in front of a committee, saying, “yeah, my company killed them, while I was in charge, sorry about that, but that makes me really well qualified in spotting how bad management like mine kills people. So I should carry on in my job.”

      I bet I wouldn’t have David Cameron telling everyone how great I was, either.

      • 19
      • 20
        jennie bleargh says:

        that 1200 is 1% of stafford, killed in 4 years! and that is only the tip of the iceberg.

        all those foreign nurses whose only experience back in bongo land is throwing aids corpses into a ditch no doubt. you get what you pay for

        • 22
          Robert Mugabe says:

          This is an essential part of nurse training in Zimbabwe.

        • 25
          Tessa Tickles says:

          No, they don’t throw the in pits! They cut them up, and make potions.

          Or sell them to our supermarkets as 100% British Beef.

          • jennie bleargh says:

            i suppose we’ll only get outraged when we find the staffs victims in our burgers. like it really matters to them then

        • 73
          Anonymous says:

          You certainly get a better class of racist scum on this site – don’t you think?

        • 101
          Analyst says:

          “experience back in bongo land is throwing aids corpses into a ditch ”

          They’ll be traumatised when they get to mid staffswitz.

      • 24
        Crimes Against Humanity have No Statute of Limitations says:

        If cameron doesn’t get off his backside and end this outrageous impunity, he could end up being implicated himself.

      • 27

        Its an amazing response isn’t it?

        It like an Ed Miliband political broadcaast

        “Look..I know I’ve done some bad things. debt..immigration..a few of those wars..smoking ban..more debt..that whole pension snatching thing..a few more wars..That Green energy crap..What was I thinking? trying to power a blast furnace with a windmill. We must have been drunk that day..And then there’s NHS death camps and lets not forget the debt ..But..and I want to onenationally make this clear…”I’m the person who can’t be trusted. But, as you already know I can’t be trusted, that’s a better option for you. Because otherwise you might choose someone you think you can trust, but it turns out they couldn’t be trusted. Like Clegg. Remember him? Nor do I. the long run..its better to have someone you know is going to make a total hash of it and avoid later disappointment, isn’t it?

        So vote Ed.
        You know it doesn’t make sense. But in an uncertain world, I’m a certainty to fuck it all up or piss it all away.”

    • 26
      jennie bleargh says:

      shows there’s something not quite right with the country when 1200 blatant murders doesn’t even result in a stern talking to, let alone a sacking or criminal charge.

      • 35
        A Scare Monger says:

        This is not a country where anyone should feel safe.

        • 42
          jennie bleargh says:

          we need a truth and reconciliation process where the horrors of the 1997-2010 terror are fully revealed. then we kill the bastards that were in government at the time.

          Burnham should be strapped to a bed in his own shit until he dies of thirst. see how the c#nt likes it.

        • 45
          stew says:

          I decided many years ago to never live in a Labour area again and life is pretty good. I did the ‘edgy’ thing of living in the ‘enriched areas’ when I was a student. handy for drugs but not somewhere to bring up kids.

          I feel sorry for the Staffs victims unless they voted labour in which case they were pretty much asking for it

          • A veteran says:

            I felt no fear what so ever when on tours of duty to Iraq & Afghanistan , because I knew the , statistical life threatening dangers .

            Wouldn’t fuck with the NHS tho

      • 111
        Anonymous says:

        To do a task right the first time always cost less.

        But in the UK to do a task badly always results in more reward.

        The confirmation comes when the person states they should fix their own mistakes. They volunteer only to fix the symptom. The mistake is themselves.

        While busy fixing what else will they ignore?

        The art of management: to identify the “blinkered” people.

    • 265
      President Assad says:

      If I stand down I could run the NHS .
      A 1000 here a 1000 there
      Come on think bigger like me
      Plenty of experience at this kind of thing .
      You know it makes sence.

  10. 11
    RetardEd's Labour says:

    Voters can be sure that the NHS death camps are safe in our hands.

  11. 21
    Maybelline says:

    If Andy is forced to resign we may have to reconsder his contract. We need someone with a high profile to display our cosmetic ranges.

  12. 31
    Anonymous says:

    So it’s Fatboy Fat followed by Fatboy Slim?

  13. 33
    Jimmy says:

    Fatboy Fat?

  14. 36
    Bollocks Broadcasting Corporation says:

    Andy Burnham, mass murderer is not newsworthy. Evil Tory cuts to the NHS is a different matter.

  15. 37
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Pliny the Welder has had his ‘comeuppance’ over on the Ides of May blog see box 30.

    Message being – put brain in gear first before smearing. He didn’t want to let a fact get in the way of his smearing. Thank you for that Pliny!

  16. 38
    Peterbororian says:

    OT. Just seen report on Sky News about immigrants in Peterborough.
    The reporter stated that they had been welcomed for over 40 years.
    Er. No. We never had any say in the matter.

    • 39

      I believe that Peterborough has had the highest proportional number of immigrants of any town in the UK.

      Apart from all those Polski Shleps, have you noticed a difference?

      • 44
        old SHEP says:

        ♪♪ Their are 8,000 Poles In Blackpool Lancashire ♪♪.

        • 54

          Nice one OS, for those who remember Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.

          It was 4,000 holes in 1967 but with inflation being what it is…

        • 55
          A small, slightly smelly person says:

          ♪♪ And though the Poles are rather small,
          We have to pay them all.
          Now we know how many Poles it takes to make a nation fall …
          I’d love to send them home. ♪♪

  17. 40
    quentin cheese and onion crisp says:

  18. 41

    Dear Owen Jones.
    If you could cease your crying for a mo, I have a question.

    North America contains 2 of the G8 nations. So its 2 for 2 for the democracies.

    Latin America, with a similar richness of resources and a similar history from the Columbian exchange period up to say, the 1790′s, contains some of the earth’s poorest nations. Even its richest nations and most successful ones have poverty that would be unacceptable to an Albanian just emerging from the Stalinist era communism of the USSR.

    so, Owen.

    As we have what is superficially a good historical model; two neighboring continents both kicking off at the same time into the modern world, why is it that the one that adopted far left socialist and sometimes Marxist policies, has people some 150 years behind the living standards expected of the poorest in the USA and Canada?

    How come the evil corporatist, money grabbing, low tax, society manages to feed and house its populations, while the giving, loving, caring, hand out economy, has a population where 55 is still considered a good age to have lived to?

    • 48
      old SHEP says:

      Human sacrifice is the price that has to paid for socialist principles (for some but not for others), and how fitting on the 60th anniversary of Stalin’s death.

      • 135
        Class Interests says:

        Had the rulers put the people first in pre-1918 Russia – would the Working Class revolted? Fast forward to 2018 Britain, and how will the Working Class reacted to years Con-Dem attacks? We did not start this war, but…

        • 166
          Blowing Whistles says:

          I made a more pertinent and content full comment about this several months ago Re Tsar treating peasants like dirt / opened the door to the commies. I say no more.

        • 172
          The wizz says:

          Back in the old days I was paid to illiminate people like you because you caused death snd destructin among civikians. Not not a lots changed eh?

          • The wizz says:

            Excuee typo’s not in the best of moods after reading some of these comments.

          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Wizz – could you be a tad more specific about your surreptitious death threats – I wouldn’t want some ignornt to be smeared wrongly.

          • The wizz says:

            @Blowing Whistles; It was not a death threat, just a statement of fact: British army don’t y’know.

          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Wizz you have not specified who your comment was aimed at. A statement of “fact” needs a bit more qualification than you have offered up – qualify your statement and the rest of your latest comment. BTW as in your ref to the British army – have you read Simon Westons book which refers to many oddities surrounding the Falklands war – in particular how squaddies and sailors were used like pawns as ever in their “political masters’ games”? I have read the book btw.

    • 113
      Back in the Real World says:

      No, in your world there does not appear to be any Food Banks or housing waiting lists. Never had it so good – what do you know?

    • 134
      Owen Jones says:

      Don’t patronise me, Quango

    • 138
      Casual Observer says:

      That is a bit of a dangerous question to ask Jones.

      The primary reason for the divergence is that LATAM had very dodgy colonial masters and most countries got stuck with repressive mercantile systems of government which only recently gave way to what they have now.

      Also, the best stock from the colonial nations didn’t make it there. These countries reflect what happens if OJ and his sort are sent off to the new world and eventually allowed to get on with it.

      The North inherited UK neo-liberal systems of economics and governance in large part, and most importantly: UK common law.

      Similar patterns can be seen across Afr!ca, when comparing somewhere like Ghana with DRC for example.

      LATAM will ditch Marxist systems soon. They are only dabbling at present as an FU to the imperialist gringo’s in el norte, who themselves under Obama seem to be heading into the same socialist trap at present.

      • 175
        The wizz says:

        Bravo, I couldn’t have put that better. +100,000,000.

      • 178

        I think I’ll go along with that. Plus widespread, almost universal, land ownership in North America.

        I expected Owen to blame Catholicism. Fits the left wing mindset nicely.

        • 242
          Casual Observer says:

          I think Owen would probably blame nasty Tories and ‘dormitorio fiscal’.

          The Land ownership, and more accurately, property law, in North America stems from UK Common law principles.

          LATAM have figured out that this is the secret ingredient of capitalism which they missed as it was an alien notion to their mercantile roots.

          Peruv!an economist Hernand0 de S0to has written very about this, I recommend his highly accessible works to all, and to ignore the ‘progressives’ who disparage de S0to’s views.

    • 197
      CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

      Marxism is a system that can only create one thing, namely shortage. It inevitably leads to shortage of life.

      It combines two things
      a disregard for market based systems of cost ~= demand / supply
      a removal of comparative advantage caused by free exchange of time.

      the first ensures less supply, the second less demand.

  19. 43
    Brown out and pay me damages and then he can go jog up his own arsehole. says:

    Fatboy slim is so last decade!

  20. 46
    Welsh activist. says:

    Enriching the NHS. As somebody mentioned earlier, Stafford is the tip of the iceberg. Would a freedom of information request re: the ethnic make-up of the murdered be successful. Doubtful, might even get you arrested.

    • 53
      The Argos Catalogue of Errors says:

      Interesting point. Is there are racial element here? No-one has mentioned one so far, but I suppose in this PC world that is not odd.

      What are the backgrounds of the people doing the neglecting and of those who their ‘neglect’, if that is the correct word, led to being killed?

      • 78
        stew says:

        English being murdered by blacks and Eastern Europeans I would imagine. same as outside the NHS

        • 86
          rebekah aka nellnewman says:

          Hmmm spe@king from experience of my Mum’s end of life care , I suspect there is more compassion for patients from hardworking, non-striking, family oriented East European nurses and carers than from the hardened, uncaring, union/card carrying UK one’s .

        • 100
          Blast From The Past says:

          Germany 1939. Britain 2013. Same racist scum.

          • 1200 people mysteriously die and the best answer you have is RACIST? says:

            Truth hurts does it shit for brains?

            Remember what Churchill said-

            The fascists will come back as anti-fascists.

            Looks like you are proving him right.

          • CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

            Screaming WAAAYYYYCCCCIIIISSSTT is all they have left.

  21. 47
    Pynt of Bitter says:

    Get a good p-int of a-le down u. We can all do with getting totally rat arsed now and again. Enjoy.

  22. 49
    Edinburgh junkie shitty moralising to rest of us. says:

    That’s terrible. You should be out joggin instead of enjoying yourself. Vote Labour!

    • 81
      rebekah aka nellnewman says:

      Yes Indeed. Vote Labour. Put andy’die neglected in the nhs’burnham back in charge of health and let’s restore the nhs to it’s former killing glory!!

      • 93
        NHS: Not For Sale! says:

        Attacking the NHS – ready to sell it off to US/big business?

        • 98
          rebekah aka nellnewman says:

          Some of us have experienced the NHS at firsthand. Not a happy experience!!

          Children disabled by negligence and our elderly left to die in pain and neglect.

          I think any option for medical care that centres on care and compassion for patients in this country is preferable to a socialist uncarinng NHS that is all about bureaucracy,powerbases, managers,unions and tick boxing !!!

          • marge says:

            important things like hospitals should be run by the private sector where businesses go bust if they fail.

            look at the mess of the government backed banks.

            would you leave something like the food chain to the government? we’d starve to death!

        • 199
          CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

          NHS is already bought by the staff.

          It’s certainly not run for the benefit of patients.

          Time to de-extort treatment NOW! Ask for your money back so you can go private and get care.

          • Anonymous says:

            A decent, well funded NHS certainly must be fixed, and run for the benefit of patients – NOT to profit some greedy money-men.

  23. 50
    No future in Edinburgh. says:

    Waste of time enjoying yourself. Neo Guido should ask our permission before he goes oot enjoying himself!

    • 56
      The NHS says:

      We’ll pick the bastard up with one of our ambulances. Sort him out.

      • 83
        rebekah aka nellnewman says:

        Pity an nhs ambulance couldn’t pick andyburnham up and treat him to some of that criminal nhs neglect, that he encouraged whilst health minister under gordon, that killed at least 1200 people.

        • 122
          marge says:

          1200 in tiny stafford. multiply that up by the country and you have a holocaust

  24. 51
    hovebeast says:

    “NORMAN” lives by an offshore burial site and regularly bumps into dead bodies floating in filth
    The HOC is just his thing
    Oh and his wife shagged some ugly nonce as he has a small “turntable”

    • 59

      Same block of shithole houses as the ghastly Heather Mills owned until she sold hers to Cook.

    • 125
      marge says:

      Mid Staffs NHS hospital?

      • 168
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Either camoron sacks the NHS ghoul or he will be sacked. n.b. How can he sympathise with Mrs Bailey and do zero, nada, zilch, Sweet FA about Nicholson

        unless of course – he is the complete FORK-TONGUED SNAKE THAT HE IS?

        • 179
          The wizz says:

          Well you had better vote UKIP like the rest of us and don’t go on about it.

          • Blowing Whistles says:

            I read your 2 comment far above – If you cannot stand the heat in this kitchen – I suggest you lay off the booze but better still blog elsewhere on some novice training blog for trolls. Just my opinion mind!

  25. 68
    Punk soul brother says:

    Punk soul brother.

    • 171
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Punk soul brotherhoodies of the brotherhoody … men who because they are so useless and pitiful have to hunt in packs like wolves.

      Skulls and bones – but NO BACKBONE.

  26. 69
    Andy No Morals Burnham says:

    Is it safe to come out of hiding yet?

    • 85
      old SHEP says:

      Won’t have to put up with the twats ramblings on Question Time for the foreseeable future, the Disappeared ones.

    • 106
      RetardEd says:

      Come with me to the trekkie convention in Southport this weekend. No-one will think of looking there. I suggest you come as a Thargian.

  27. 71
    Channel 4 News says:

    We at Channel 4 News think Chavez was wonderful.

    • 87
      Makes You Proud To Be British? says:

      At least he was willing to stand up to Uncle Sam – so much for UK Independence?

      • 91
        rebekah aka nellnewman says:

        Pity he didn’t stand up for his own people.

        He lived in luxury whilst venezualans struggled with 1800% inflation and died, and are dying, in poverty and starvation.

        The true face of socialism!!

  28. 72
    The taxman in Nevis says:


    So you are a Young Briton now?

    No longer a Paddy then?

    Or are you the oppr3ssor and the oppressed at the same time?

    • 84

      The Britons (sometimes Brythons or British) were a Celtic people who lived in Great Britain… Wiki.

      They did not populate Hibernia at the time but there was increased settlement from Great Britain to Ireland after the Roman conquest of England.

      • 88
        Jimmy says:

        The Young Britons on the other hand are essentially a Teutonic tribe. The Rally is a sacred rite to them.

        • 89
          rebekah aka nellnewman says:

          Do the labour party not have young britons ?

        • 95

          I am currently in the lands of the Habsburgs on the border with Freistaat Bayern. The Teutons are much more serious people, I am afraid.

        • 97
          Sir William Wade says:

          No, we ‘White British’ are about 80% Celtic, if DNA is to be believed.

          • Future generations of archaeologists my well pick over our remains and conclude that we were a sub-species of Equus ferus caballus and puzzle about the loss of ungulate features.

          • Tachybaptus says:

            You can eat horseburgers till they come out of your ears, but it doesn’t change your DNA. Future archaeologists will, however, wonder why skeletons of 50-year-olds have their knee and hip cartilages worn right through. We shall be known to history as the Fat People.

          • Presumably evolution will turn us back into fishes as our limb joints, and so limbs, disappear.

            On the horse point, there was not only the jesting point, there is the revision to what constitutes marriage, of which, we have seen but the start…

          • The wizz says:

            That depends on your forefathers. Should you have been born in the south, your blood stock was probably a great mix of most of Europe and Scandinavia.

          • CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

            Actually we’ll be know from our teeth as the over-biters.

            Chewing soft food changes the teeth so they don’t align correctly. Overbite is the new normal, but not so long ago it was not.

      • 90
        old SHEP says:

        I thought we originated from the ancient tribe of Chavs.

        • 94
          rebekah aka nellnewman says:

          The Tribe of Chavs was invented by the last labour government in the hope that the votes of these lazy benefit dependent failures would keep labour in power forever.

          • old SHEP says:

            Boadicea was an Essex girl.

          • rebekah aka nellnewman says:

            Around here the tribe of chavs is predominantly uk white, young and male,

            Lots of farm work to be had but labour made it too easy to get benefits and this lot won’t dirty their hands, as our ancestors did , to produce food or anything decent like that.

            Farmwork around here nowadays is carried out by hardworking decent east europeans whilst our own lazy youth experiment with drugs and drink!

          • rebekah aka nellnewman says:

            I like to think Boadicea was a FenTiger. In my Grandma’s day the FenWomen had immense presence and fighting spirit.

          • Residing in 96.97% white Merseyside says:

            I thought the BBC had ordered everyone to use the new name for Boadicea.

          • Blowing Whistles says:

            The BBC are largely a satellite front for their israeli masters – they are and have to be seen as self-depricating **** just like that other front over at the gruniad. Hidden behind is the hand of dupe them stupid members of the public but more importantly them HoC dupes [about 80% as has been spoken and written of].

            Where’s Pliny the welder when you want to be smeared?

        • 104
          Axe The Telly Tax says:

          In South America it’s the ancient tribe of Chavez ;-)

          • rebekah aka nellnewman says:

            The thing about the Tribe of Chavez or his pal in Cuba or North Korea ie socialism is that the leaders live in luxury – best transport, best houses, best food, designer clothes, best medical care (ironically that has not saved chavez this time).

            And the people they are supposed to be helping , the venezualans, the cubans, the north koreans are all struggling, no jobs,apart from slave labour, no transport, no food, rubbish medical care, poor education and they’re starving!!

            Socialism at it’s best Eh?!!

      • 118
        The taxman in Nevis says:

        So the Celtic Britons oppressed the Celtic Hibernians?

        That adds an interesting twist to the “troubles”

  29. 103
    Owin Jones says:

    Government to legislate to put politicians into plain packaging;

  30. 110

    UN: Syria rebels seize about 20 Golan Heights peacekeepers near Israel border

    How to make life difficult for oneself when you already have the sympathy of the majority of the western world.

    No wonder gluteus maximus has become a synonym for Arab.

    • 117
      rebekah aka nellnewman says:

      It puts me in mind of the uncomfortable alliances Britain had to make in WW2 in Greece, Yugoslavia, and France with extrremists who didn’t quite fit with our model of democracy.

      I think history is repeating itself!!

      • 128

        @nell. That was in the days when the enemy of my enemy was my friend.

        This incident is in another class altogether and has only been witnessed in Islamic circles, as far as I am aware: My friend is my enemy.

        • 131
          Casual Observer says:

          I am sure it will be met with a considered and measured response.

          • From us? For sure! We don’t want to upset them in any way, good Lord! (oops sorry, good grief!)

            The question I find myself asking with increased frequency is will they succeed in annihilating all of us before they manage to do the same thing to themselves?

          • Casual Observer says:

            I was thinking more of a nation which has a more direct interest in keeping the peace in the Golan Heights.

          • Ah! It does not help them for sure. But I never felt for an instant that they thought the overthrow of Bashir would solve any problem, save maybe a reduction in arms shipments by sea to Maiuma.

          • Blowing Whistles says:

            To all of you above – there are some other variables to be thrown into the pot – one being Panam 105.

          • Blowing Whistles says:

            If I am not mo00ded – to be more precise – ‘Innocents sacrificed’ for others’ wrongdoings.

          • CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

            The Syrian Rebels are largely Alky Aida.

            The country that it’s good to deliver pizza to would probably prefer both sides fight as long as possible…

          • Blowing Whistles says:

            The zioloons positively thrive on Alky Aida … now why would that be?

    • 167
      False Flag Spotter says:

      Syria: Bit by bit, the truth is coming out. If the ‘Brave Protesters’ have the sympathy of the majority of the western world. is it because we don’t REALLY know who they are? Honestly, and party point-scoring apart – do we want to arm people that could include car-bombers?

    • 206
      CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

      The arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

  31. 112
    rebekah aka nellnewman says:

    So what does labour stand for now?

    An uncaring NHS killing machine.

    An EU that is gong to leach taxes from each and every one of us to keep the EU elite in comfort.

    An open border that will let in every tom dick and harry from the outside world that wants free benefits and medical care and has no skills to get them into work.

    An education system under balls that believes in dumbing down every child to the lowest level.

    A pension system that is so devalued we can’t even afford to heat our houses.

    An energy policy that sees us spend 30% of our time under power cuts because of crazy wind farm policies that don’t work.

    Agriculture and Fisheries finally destroyed.

    Go on militwit and bullyballs tell us how you mean to make us a viable working worthwhile nation again!! ++++Laugh++++

  32. 114
    rebekah aka nellnewman says:

    So what does labour stand for now?

    An unc aring NHS kil lin g ma chine.

    An EU that is gong to le ach taxes from each and every one of us to keep the EU elite in comfort.

    An op en border that will let in every to m dic k and ha rry from the outside world that wants free benefits and medical care and has no skills to get them into work.

    An education system under balls that believes in dum bing down every child to the lowest level.

    A pension system that is so devalued we can’t even afford to heat our houses.

    An energy policy that sees us spend 30% of our time under power cuts because of cra zy wind farm policies that don’t work.

    Agriculture and Fisheries finally destr oyed.

    Go on militwit and bullyballs tell us how you mean to make us a viable working worthwhile nation again!! ++++Laugh++

    • 116
      rebekah aka nellnewman says:

      That should have been +++Hollow Laugh+++ of course.

    • 149
      Anonymous says:

      Same old Tories stand for:

      Selling council houses (paid for by tax-payers) at knock-down prices to their friends – who then to sub-let them.

      Letting Starbucks get away with not paying tax.

      Helping their big business friends, by Forcing people into non-skilled work, for no wages.

      Undermining the NHS – ready to sell off.

      Kicking the poor/unemployed and disabled in the teeth.

      Feeling sorry for the piggy banks.

      Cutting tax for their friends.

      Paying the US for its’ over-priced nuclear weapons and power stations.

      • 196
        The wizz says:

        Come tell us about Mandlebum, Bliar, the one eyed mong, the millitwits not forgetting the ones caught with their hands in the till? Concerning the latter why were they loaded into The House of Lords, after all they don’t believe it that house or is it because they want more gravy?

      • 211
        CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

        The NHS is a disaster! We should care about what’s best for patients, not what sounds nice for leftists on the wrong side of the historical Berlin wall. That means hospitals that charge and patients that pay (from insurance based on risks).

        Otherwise we will continue to have a inadequate ration of treatment dolled out.

        • 295
          Anonymous says:

          While there are problems, the NHS is far from a disaster. So, instead of being sold off, it should be fixed.

          Starter for ten : who said that the NHS was “safe our hand”?

      • 212
        CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

        Why should starbucks pay the government?

        What part of making coffee does the state aid?

        If you taxed land value the state could collect land rent from the site (which cannot be added onto the rent Ricardo’s Law), rather than making coffee more expensive.

        • 287
          Lunch is for wimps says:

          And Starbucks invasion and tax-avoidance started under Labour’s watch: in 1998

        • 294
          Fair's Fair says:

          Since few British people have problems paying tax – why should Starbucks get away scot-free?

    • 210
      CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:


      Power may go off as soon as next weekend!

      • 243
        Casual Observer says:

        Pray for snow, followed by revolution in two weeks.

      • 244
        IMF Sovereign On Star Assistance says:

        - So, let me get this straight. You ran out of gas in the middle of March ?

        - Ok, just curious, but did you not notice the fuel gauge ?

        - Sorry, that was an impertinent question. Can you tell me where you are stranded, and if you passed any gas stations recently ?

      • 245
        IMF Sovereign On Star Assistance says:

        - Sir, you are breaking up. Windmills ?

        • 296
          Anonymous says:

          Why did they have to dump milk at Windscale? What almost happened at Three Mile Island? The list goes on, and on, and…

  33. 124
    The buggar buggered says:

    Your comment on the “Evening Independent” strike

    I love the idea of the local “Chapel” striking against the KGB’s ill gotten gains

    • 127
      Y fronts says:

      Dont’ be nasty top my friends

      They are lovely ex KGB ex pillaging people

  34. 129
    Casual Observer says:

    Some attempted positive news on house prices from Halifax in the T’graph today:

    The price rise is reported to be about 1.9%

    The following shows real average house price changes, as a percent, comparing year-to-year changes by quarter using Nationwide data:

         1Yr % Change in Real House Prices, 2005Q2 – 2012 Q3, by Quarter
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      12 ├                                                            
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       0 ┼─▀─▄─▀─▀─▀─▀─▀─▀─▀─▀─▀─▄─▄─▄─▄─▄─▄─▄─▀─▀─▀─▄─▄─▄─▄─▄─▄─▄─▄─▄
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    NB: A 1.9% price rise, will cancel a 1.86% price drop, ignoring inflation.

    The following news also out today does not suggest that house prices will trend upwards over the next year, and that is before the other generally bad economic realities are considered:


    • 139
      Fishy says:

      My amplifier does that wavy thing that you’ve drawn there.

      ‘I am the Walrus’ if I’m not mistaken

    • 141

      Have you looked at the relationship between house prices and the equivalent in rents?

      There are real returns being made in rental property now probably due to the fact that banks won’t lend, despite us collectively keeping them afloat and obligingly creating all this “money” for them.

      It would be nice to know when reality will come back but short of a total collapse, quite possible, it seems destined to run and run. Japan’s recent experience will look like a tea party (not the US type…)

      • 152
        Casual Observer says:

        Rents are ticking up quite a bit, and have been markedly since the credit crunch hit. There are real returns being made, but this is being eroded by a combination of inflation and the government starting to crack down on landlords over issues such as tax and insurance etc.

        Rent is a component of Housing & household services in RPI / CPI. The increases in HHS have been overshadowed by increases in energy costs.

        According to ONS, contribution to CPI from Jan 2012 -> Jan 2013 was +3.5%.

        In the 2.7% CPI which was quoted for Jan 2013, HHS contributed 0.51%.

        That was the largest contribution, and ahead of Food and Non Alcoholic Beverages, which contributed 0.47%, the second largest.

        Collapse is still possible, but only if there is a radical change in current monetary policy, or a serious external event happens.

        Putting interest rates up would collapse the market very quickly, and trigger the reset the economy needs.

        What is happening in the UK appears to be a transition from individual house ownership back to renting being the norm.

        The banks reluctance to issue mortgages is reflective of their medium to
        long term view of the UK economy.

        Being unwilling to lend at current interest rates over 20 years even with reasonable collateral put down and the person having a job is telling you that in their view is the loan is not worth making.

        That means that the banks consider the risk of lending mortgages to people now too great, ie. The economy over the next 5 to 20 years is not going to improve, and likely get worst. And issuing mortgage debt to people is not valuable business at present.

        The building societies are a little more positive. They also know that house prices have got to come down further over the next few years before business can return to normal.

        • 162

          The real inflation rate is not shown in the CPI, nor the RPI, nor the RPIJ.

          They are all completely artificial in makeup and do not reflect anything that the average human being experiences in inflationary terms.

          My best guess is that it is now over 10% pa – and that is before you make allowances for outright scandals, like the horse meat débâcle. We have no idea how far this has gone and thus we could be approaching rates of the 1984-1989 Labour government.

          The banks can see this.

          • Casual Observer says:

            Agreed on the CPI / RPI / RPIJ: Mentioned the above as rent is meant to be reflected in these, and that it is mixed with energy costs in HHS is significant given the amount of rhetoric going on about that issue.

            Inflation should be reflected by the GDP Deflator. That is currently running in the 2.7% range. The CPI / RPI cannot be marked too far away from that otherwise people will figure out that they are a fiction.

            The GDP Deflator for UK itself as published does have a serious question mark hanging over it itself.

            Since M0 reporting was discontinued by the Bo.E about the same time the Fed discontinued reporting M3, building a truly accurate picture of UK inflation rate is tricky. Especially if the GDP deflator is being fiddled.

            Price inflation in UK personally I would put at somewhere at least between 7 and 10%.

            There was a Conservative government 1984 thru 1989, inflation will likely not hit those levels though as the conditions this time round are different.

            The UK is in a bust phase, and all evidence seems to be indicating that money is being drained from the system, which is deflation.

            Curiously though, prices are still going up, if only in notional terms for some, which suggests there are real shortages this time round.

            This time is different to before and could get quite nasty.

          • My apologies. Senior moment. 1974-1979 (Wilson-Callaghan era.) Rates approaching 20% and in double figures most of that time.

            We do not differ substantially upon current real inflation rate though and of course, it all depends on how you make your adjustments from the massaged stuff.

            As you point out, the GDP deflator took into account the decrease in prices of electronics goods including laptops. All very well for those who could afford to buy them but for people just paying rent, buying food and paying for their transport to work, of no relevance whatsoever.

          • Casual Observer says:

            No worries on the senior moment, there was high inflation in both periods. The 1974-1979 was mainly the reverberations of Nixon coming off gold standard and the oil shock earlier in the decade.

            That is a good example of an external problem that can upset the economy.

            The GDP Deflator is a measure of inflation.

            Inflation is an artificial increase of the money supply, nothing else. Deflation is the reverse, ie reduction of money supply.

            If the money supply is increased without a corresponding increase in output, ie. GDP does not increase, then the effect of inflation is such as to reduce the GDP in real terms. Hence, GDP Deflator.

            Cost of electronics has gone down as retailers have cut profit margins, and thanks to Ch!na, the base unit costs have come down significantly. That has nothing to do with UK GDP Deflator.

            The supply of money in the real economy is down, as reflected by rising unemployment, declining wages and reduction of total bank lending, not to mention benefit cuts. Hence, in the real economy, we are experiencing deflation which is why money is getting tight.

            That prices are rising, in an environment where the supply of money is declining, demonstrates that price rises are not due to inflation but are due to supply-demand dynamic reflecting a shortage of supply.

            In particular this is why energy and food are going up.

            Rents / House Price rises, absent monetary inflation, is simply price inflation. Unless there is a real shortage of housing also, which I do not think is the case.

            People will perceive all of this as inflation, like in the 80s, but it isn’t. This is why it is important to be careful now, as the different circumstances which exist now are much more dangerous.

          • RPI for the years 1963-1997
            Showing the political party in government at the beginning of that year.

            1963		2.00%	Con
            1964		3.30%	Lab
            1965		4.80%	Lab
            1966		3.90%	Lab
            1967		2.50%	Lab
            1968		4.70%	Lab
            1969		5.40%	Lab
            1970		6.40%	Lab
            1971		9.40%	Con
            1972		7.10%	Con
            1973		9.20%	Con
            1974		16.00%	Con
            1975		24.20%	Lab
            1976		16.50%	Lab
            1977		15.80%	Lab
            1978		8.30%	Lab
            1979		13.40%	Lab
            1980		18.00%	Con
            1981		11.90%	Con
            1982		8.60%	Con
            1983		4.60%	Con
            1984		5.00%	Con
            1985		6.10%	Con
            1986		3.40%	Con
            1987		4.20%	Con
            1988		4.90%	Con
            1989		7.80%	Con
            1990		9.50%	Con
            1991		5.90%	Con
            1992		3.70%	Con
            1993		1.60%	Con
            1994		2.40%	Con
            1995		3.50%	Con
            1996		2.40%	Con
            1997		3.10%	Con

            The Conservative blip in the 1980s was a minnow as compared with the prolonged high inflationary period under Wilson and Callaghan, some of which can be explained on the three-fold increase in oil prices but much more on economic mismanagement.

            No further explanation is required as to why Labour was not regarded as economically competent. Brown thought he had changed it but he only disguised the reality.

    • 145
      old SHEP says:

      Incomprehensible knob of the year award graph.

    • 214
      CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

      Think you mean bad news.

      No more houses are produced.

      So no more goods but a 1.9% lowering in affordability = economic loss.

      House prices rises are only good news if you’re emigrating or going to die.

      • 221
        Casual Observer says:

        A 1.9% rise in nominal house price, in an economy where official inflation is at 2.7%, means that in real terms your asset has lost 0.8%.

        House prices are still declining.

        • 226
          CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

          It’s hard to find any asset yielding 2.7%

        • 227
          CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

          My main point is that falls in affordability are not good news.

          • Casual Observer says:

            Agreed, and I got that. However, the news does have a positive effect on your average non-critically thinking type.

            Just furthering your point by explaining that the news itself is not completely honest.

            Again to your point, there is this as well:


            Bank of !reland / Bristol and West taking their mortgage rates from 2.25% up to 4.49% by October. One suspects that they wish to get out of the market, but the others in the UK may follow suit.

            That hitting buy to let mortgages will stimulate some further increases in rent demand later this year, which highlights an inflationary risk associated with the buy to let business model.

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  36. 143 says:

  37. 147

    Chіna hikes defense budget, to spend more on іnternal securіty. Reuters

    They clearly don’t feel secure inside the country despite іnternet lock-down.

  38. 151
    Owin Jones says:

    I’m not saying I need a pube trimmer, but when I get an erection it looks like Pinocchio has joined the Taliban

  39. 153
    Executive At Scandal-Ridden Italian Bank Commits Suicide says:

    • 155
      Jump You Fuckers (A Song For Wall Street) says:

      • 216
        CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

        Seems Europe, and especially the UK during Gordos FSA tripartite regulation splurge (masses of regulation about everything except credit volume!) were the real home of the most dodgy practises.

      • 289
        R.Branson's sicophantic sniggering says:

        Oh do stop mithering. We only clicked on the link because we thought it was this one

    • 215
      Casual Observer says:

      There is a lot of background leading to this:

      Some further background:






      ‘The costly acquisition of ABN’s !talian subsidiary – Antonveneta –undermined the capital strength of Monte dei Paschi so much, that the Tuscan bank is currently being investigated for alleged wrongdoing relating to financing that takeover.’

      Paschi lost out, the others gained. Santander came out top on the ABN deal.

      Paschi were hoping that PD were going to win the recent election. PDL / Grillo will punish them. Things start to make sense with this ‘suicide’.

      Incidentally, criticism of the Bank of !taly regulation has been levelled, and that criticism has extended to Dragh!’s involvement..

      Banks primarily involved in this mess: Santander, B@rclays, Nomura, Unicredit.

  40. 156

    Should Sir David Nicholson now be put on the Care Pathway of the Lyrpole variety?

  41. 157
    Saffron says:

    Chavez is a two billionaire plonker who has exploited his position big time including his mate in cuba.
    Both of these couple of so called commie plonkers have ripped their own people off big time.
    This is supposedly big news here at the moment,why in heavens name is that so.
    The news today off all the media seems to be exactly what they want to tell you yet if you go on the net from various sources you can discover what the media don’t or do not want to tell you.
    INMHO the media are not doing themselves any good by failing to report without fear or favour of what goes on.
    The net is an extremely powerful device that the powers that be cannot control and as such it is our friend in getting to grips as to what really goes on in this corrupt society of ours.
    Our society now is controlled by the assholes of the human race in whatever form,can we escape from this lot of of control the money control the people,well probably not unless we have a revolution which means something.

    • 188
      Blowing Whistles says:

      The revolution is already begun and peacefully – that’s the ptb’s problem they can’t control it save for engineering / manufacturing more and more draconian laws – which of course ‘shows how desperate they have become.

      • 235
        Not Blowing Whistles says:

        And as they do so with those laws, their own corruption, and the few men of virtue who still work on that side, subverts the enforcement.

  42. 158
    Anonymous says:

  43. 164
    1200 people mysteriously die and the best answer you have is RACIST? says:

    The truth hurts does it shit for brains?

    Remember what Churchill said-

    The fascists will come back as anti-fascists.

    Looks like you are proving him right.

  44. 165
    Saffron says:

    Finally before I retire.
    Mid Staffs Hospitals and 1200 dead,what a disgrace,and just who is taking responsibility,well actually no one.
    I saw the man in charge deny any responsibily whatsoever,what planet is this guy on other than a cash one for him and his girlfriend pushed into another taxpayers funded easy job.
    The man is a disgrace and if Cammoron had any balls whatsoever then this apology of a human being should be sacked.
    1200 people died on this assholes watch pursuing liebour targets rather than peoples right to life,what a feckin disgrace is this.

  45. 169

    Britain to send armoured 4x4s to aid Syria rebels Mirror

    Presumably they can be used to take yet more peacekeepers hostage?

    Wake up Vague! Attach conditions. PDQ!

    • 170

      He is only following orders from the White House

    • 186
      I'm just a common guy says:

      Why are we helping , it’s in France’s sphere of influence, it’s fck all to do with us, don’t we do enough, as the world’s charity supplier of money and free health suppliers.

      • 239
        Ottomania says:

        It’s really Turkey’s problem. We should leave it to them. They know where and how to apply the pressure.

        • 241
          Casual Observer says:

          No, it isn’t really Turkey’s problem.

          Common Guy is partly right about France. The French have been funding and supplying the insurgents. UK has been supplying the insurgents will cell phones.

          Russia / !ran were supporting Assad. Russia wants to keep its port at Tartus methinks.

          The Syria issue will come down to a carve up of the territory once some sort of government can be formed. There are meant to be ‘talks’ happening.

          The large oil / gas deposits in the East Med, the oil supply coming across Turkey from Kurdistan and the possible nat gas pipeline from !ran (South Pars) complicates much. Especially as the US just wants to extend NMD through Turkey and get out of the region for a while.

          Russia stands to lose big on its monopoly with Europe, and the East Med oil / gas could spark a war between Greece and Turkey.

          All a bit complicated. No wonder the EU has been seriously talking about giving up on Cyprus…

  46. 176
    Taxpayer says:

    I object to having to pay tax to fund the £35000 a year benefits of the idle parasitic raghead twat in Rochdale who already has 11 kids and wants more.

    • 203
      BBC says:

      But think of those poor kids and what about the enrichment they all bring our dull and bland land?

      Its a price worth paying.

  47. 181
    Ed Moribund says:

    Sorry ’bout all the immigrants and that.

    • 207
      Mong Public says:

      It’s okay we forgive you and we know you won’t do it again.

    • 297
      Anonymous says:

      The Labour Party should be attacking the racists, not playing the Race Card – bloody shameful.

  48. 182
    Jeremy Clarkson says:

    • 190
      Blowing Whistles says:

      I wish that ‘celebrity’ promoted by the political elite [includes you too ED M] pratt would keep his head up his arse for at least seven minutes – that ought to do it.

    • 204
      Isaac Hunt says:

      Why is immigration control in mainland UK nothing like the immigration control in the Falkland Islands????

      I know thousands of Argentinians that would like to emigrate to the Malvinas!

    • 298
      Anonymous says:

      J C says: any old BS to get himself and the BBC in the headlines.

  49. 187
    Who? says:
    • 191
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Schmuck dupes.

    • 217
      CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

      Safer London, move away from estates with large numbers of Africans on them.

    • 269
      JH3093840934 says:

      Our gun crime stats are low, but you have to wonder how many orders of magnitude lower they could be without the brothers blasting caps into each others asses, aiiighhht.

      There is a crime map of London where you can plot the gun murders with pictures of the victims. London would be one of the safest major cities in the world by a long, long way without all the enrichment.

  50. 189
    Right racists says:

    Wassup, racists? Lots of typically venal comments here.

  51. 192
    Hypocrisy Watch says:

    Stella Greasy is on Newsnight now to discuss payday loans. Wasn’t she exposed as having taken a donation from one of them?

  52. 201
    Hugo the hero says:

    Chavez was a hero to ordinary people. RIP

    • 209
      Rubber Lips says:

      Rest In Piss

    • 213
      Robby Robertson says:

      Not to the ordinary British people, they are too busy living Liebours dream.

    • 219
      CarryHole is a unbeleivable Hunt says:

      Chavez was a hero to that greediest sort of person.

      The person who will sell their vote to the person who’ll rob their fellow citizens.

    • 256
      All you need is a pointless answer to win the jackpot says:

      I suspect that if you asked 100 people to name as many Hugo’s that they could in 100 seconds Chavez would be pretty low down the list behind HugoBoss

  53. 222
    Isaac Hunt says:

    Niall Ferguson Goes Searching For Paul Krugman’s Embarrassing “Childhood Trauma”

  54. 230
    I was WRONG! cwy cwy sob sob...... says:

    • 237
      Londoner says:

      What a heap of crap. The Olympics were an example of systematic discrimination against British workers and systematic lies by bureaucrats redefining foreigners as local in order to hide the truth.

    • 261
      Pawn Sandwich says:

      Hollow words from a Union placeman.

    • 291
      Gordon Brown, P.M. says:

      That was a disaster – they should never have put that man in charge of the Liebore Party. Whose idea was that? It’s just ridiculous

      He’s just a sort of bigoted man that said he used to be Labour. I mean it’s just ridiculous. I don’t know why Sue decided to have that PPB

  55. 231
    Blowing Whistles says:

    I am bored now – I think I will blog or tweet from the Cardiff Civil courts [Opposite the train station easy reach] tomorrow – not that you’d get a Mail or Sun journo going near the place – what with the embarrassment they are trying to cover up with pigs fitting up innocents ‘n all that up and down this country for fecking decades.

    Good luck Maurice.

    They kill whistleblowers in the UK don’t you know!

    • 233
      Tachybaptus says:

      I hadn’t heard of Maurice Kirk, but now I have looked in up I am greatly impressed. This is what being British used to mean and ought to mean. With thousands more like him, the paper tigers of Authority would crumple up and blow away in the honest wind. Good luck to him.

      • 240
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Suprisingly the scum mentioned his case during a criminal trial [Sat 30th January 2010 at page 43] – and that the “Trial continues” yet thereafter – the scum fell ‘silent’ when he was acquitted … were they embarrassed – you bet!

    • 259

      This is one of those instances where I believe you are right, BW.

      On many other points you betray the arrogance and ignorance of a teenager which does not assist your message and leads you often into the land of fallacy.

      Not here though. The dead hand of the state, which cannot be seen to be wrong, is used against the ordinary citizen with an oppressiveness comparable to that of the Communists or the Nаzis.

      The difference is that in the UK, it happens to relatively few unfortunates as compared with the other regimes where it applied to all but the chosen few.

      In this instance, I offer Maurice Kirk my wholehearted support and congratulate you for publicising the matter, which you have done previously on these pages.

      • 282
        rumpledforeskin says:

        Wasn’t this court reporting one of the things Leveson considered very important in a democracy ?

        what is hashtag thingy to follow ?

    • 279
      Gonk says:

      I just might toddle round the corner, take my reporters notebook and go and see.

  56. 234
    A fine pair of lungs and I can prove it! says:

    Night, night. :)

  57. 238
    I'm A Sowell Man says:

    Budget Politics
    By Thomas Sowell Wednesday, March 06, 2013

    Back in my teaching days, many years ago, one of the things I liked to ask the class to consider was this: Imagine a government agency with only two tasks: (1) building statues of Benedict Arnold and (2) providing life-saving medications to children. If this agency’s budget were cut, what would it do?

    The answer, of course, is that it would cut back on the medications for children. Why? Because that would be what was most likely to get the budget cuts restored. If they cut back on building statues of Benedict Arnold, people might ask why they were building statues of Benedict Arnold in the first place.

    (reprinted from the website

    If anyone ever gave a description of Government and Opposition mendacity on the subject of how budget “cuts” will affect certain Departments, and how those Departments will be administered with more/less money for the programmes it’s entrusted with, Professor Sowell just did.

    • 285
      JH3093840934 says:

      Also known as The Washington Monument Effect. When facing cuts, the agency in question will turn off the night time lighting of the Washington Monument first, as it is a visible and desirable piece of spending. The fact that doing away with just a couple of their McJobs would more than cover the cost of that lighting every year honestly escapes them.

      Sowell is absolutely superb. I’ve just finished Economic Facts and Fallacies, now getting my teeth in to Intellectuals and Society.

      He nails it, particularly his explanation of the ‘Anointed’ and how left wing worthies have destroyed peoples prospects – particularly blacks – in order that they might feel a fleeting glow of do-goodery.

  58. 246
    Brown out and pay me damages. I am not living lie for lying magical, scrounging, gaybo. Move on. says:

    Nighty Night. Mind the bed bugs don’t bite.

  59. 247
    albacore says:

    Everyone ready? Let’s practise saying sorry
    Once you’ve mastered that art, there’s no need to worry
    It’ll placate Dave – he’ll dispense absolution
    Whatever you’ve done, there’ll be no retribution

  60. 248
    EU Watch says:

    Not covered in English press. Over in France, French farmers decided to storm the Agriculture Ministers, Stephane le Folls, home.

    A procession of 12 tractors set off @ 3AM, and were stopped by police 150m from his home by police. There they poured a mix of earth, manure, rubbish and shopping trolleys all over the road, and made their presence felt for the day. There were similar protests in nearby towns, targeting super markets.

    The protest was over subsidies, and the lack of support for producers, particularly milk.

    The suicide rate in France is currently at least one a day in the rural areas, and the rail companies have noticed a 30% increase over the past year.

    • 254
      Is this news...someone is ALWAYS on strike in France says:

      When are’nt french farmers protesting and blockading roads,ferry ports and the like ? Strikes in France are a national pastime especially if they f*ck ” up “Les Rosbifs” on their way to and from the Channel ports

      • 288
        EU Watch says:

        It is, or at least it should be.

        There is a strike here, but also a socialist ministers home has been set upon directly by the farmers this time.

        That is a first in France.

      • 299
        Power to the People! says:

        And what is wrong with standing up for one’s interests?

    • 286
      JH3093840934 says:

      The dead feeding off the dead, fighting over the last scraps of flesh on the taxpayers bones.

      France is awfully kind to put on a demonstration of the inevitable misery created by Socialism, even while there are still a few capitalists left to fund it all.

  61. 249
  62. 250
    David the-wind-farm-Scamoron says:

    Can’t understand all this wonga hoo-ha. Gideon uses that fine old and trusted family firm every month. Don’t you Gideon ?
    [Gideon ! Pay attention ! Smile nicely and nod when I kick you.]


    Bright boy, our Gideon – knows all about folding, don’t you ? [kick]


    Don’t tell anyone but I’m pretty sure he got the idea from Ed Balls.

  63. 257
    Fact Hunt says:

    …….and in the USA…..

    Lion does what comes naturally.

    Plod shoots lion.

    Life ain’t fair sometimes.

  64. 260
    labourunionsbbc are one under the EU says:

    In his party political broadcast last night (see above @228) the new leader of the party for useful idiots and the smug rich looked very foreign. Is that because the new intake of support for him is of that order even though his message seemed to be saying something different?

    Perhaps he is thinking of establishing a ministry for anti immigration.

  65. 263
    Seeking Answers says:

    Why is a raghead parasite in Rochdale allowed to have 11 kids paid for by the taxpayer to the tune of £35000 per year?

  66. 264
    RetardEd and Ladyboy says:

    We are the new Shameless. We filled the country with immigrants and now were saying there are too many.We can do this because we think the electorate is thick.

    • 266
      One Term Dave says:

      They are if they vote Labour. Arf arf

    • 270

      Yvette Coopers Balls is to make a speech later calling on the government to put visa restrictions on overseas students coming here to attend bogus universities

      You really couldn’t make it up

      • 278
        (I don't need no doctor) says:

        Labour lock the stable door when the horse has already bolted. Ask Mary Creagh.
        Oh of course the horse meat issue didn’t happen while labour were in power.

        Do people of this country not see how insincere labour politicians like Cooper are?
        Labour just blatantly lie, the Blair, Brown, Miliband, Balls way.

    • 274
      A thicko says:

      Oi! Who is you calling electorate?

  67. 272
    Holding out for a zero says:

    RBS and Bonny Tyler. Good grief.

  68. 277
    George Gideon Oliver Osborne says:

    Plan B, the Banks pay back the £1.5tn Bailout money to HMRC,Vodafone Pays £8bn, Amazon Pays £10bn and then no Cuts or Austerity.

    • 281
      (I don't need no doctor) says:

      Until the next time, remember people are stupid. This was how it was explained to me by a Nobel Peace Prize winner for economics.

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Rod Liddle on the loony UN sexism special rapporteur:

“There is more sexism in Britain than in any other country in the world, according to a mad woman who has been sent here by the United Nations.

Rashida Manjoo is a part-time professor of law at Cape Town University in the totally non-sexist country of South Africa (otherwise known as Rape Capital Of The World).

Mrs Magoo has been wandering around with her notebook and is appalled by the sexist “boys’ club” culture here, apparently.

I don’t doubt we still have sexism in the UK. But is it worse than in, say, Saudi Arabia, d’you think, honey-lamb? Or about 175 other countries? Get a grip, you doolally old bat.”

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What’s he been doing FFS, mining bitcoins?

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